Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Ohio State wins Natty + Jenkins Family on viral racial profiling incident

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Ohio State defeating Notre Dame in the College football National Championship. Later, Unc & Ocho interview DaMichael Jenkins and his wife to share their story after being racially profiled in viral video outside their Ohio home.03:19 - Introduction06:15 - OSU v ND30:00 - DaMichael Jenkins joins(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, the Buckeyes take down the Fighting Irish to win the night. The Buckeyes beat the Fighting Irish 34-23 to win the inaugural 12 team college football playoff. It's their first national championship since they won. They won the first one, didn't they? Yeah, they won the first one, the 14 playoff is their first national championship since they won. They won the first one, didn't he? Yeah, they won the first one, the 14 playoff in 2014. And so history repeated itself.

They won the inaugural this one. Total yards, Ohio State 445, Notre Dame 291. Total rush yards, Ohio State 214, Notre Dame 53. Passing yards, Will Howard was 17 of 21, 231. Two touchdowns, no interception. Riley Leonard was 20 of 30, 238. Two touchdowns, no interceptions. Ryan Day now has as many national titles.

In Ohio State is Jen Trepsil and Urban Meyer. 45-year-old Day is now 70 and 10. And I think he has the third best winning percentage of somebody in the first Minimum of 50 games first 50 games He's done that so he's had an impressive run and now after all those wins and all those guys that he sent to the NFL Yeah, guess what he has a national title. He finally had one. Oh Joe. Yeah watching this game I saw you tweet like a can we start nightcap early? What were you thinking?

I mean, you saw it. I mean, no, that didn't go right down the field, Ocho. They take 10 minutes off the clock and they get a touchdown. So now you're like, okay, we might have a ball game. Well, listen, I thought we were gonna have a ball game, but I had to think about, obviously, there were no adjustments that were able to be made

by Ohio State. The game on both sides of the ball, nobody had settled in yet. Nobody had settled in yet. So it was the first drive. Normally, you know, when it comes to an NFL game, a college game, even a high school game, most of the time, the first drive of the game, you go down and score. If you're a good team, if you're a decent team, go down and score, and then adjustments are made going into the second drive and outside of that and then

actual football game happens itself. It looked like to me at the point I sent the tweet out, it looked like I'm not going to, Notre Dame has been good all year. They lost one game. They've been good all year, but it just looked like they didn't belong. It looked like they were, they were overmatched. They were overmatched as most people would say. If you were a gambler man,

and you were to bet on a team to win this game, based on what they did throughout the entire season, and based on the skill sets at the different positions, and who had the upper hand, you would have bet with Ohio State. And it showed up tonight. They put enough space in between them, when Notre Dame got the ball rolling, where they didn't have enough time to come back.

Yeah, I thought they got kind of got conservative. Also, they just started just running the football, trying to run the clock out and they got away from the office and they allowed Notre Dame to gain some momentum. Notre Dame did a good job of punching the ball out from the receiver. He picked up 24 yards and the guy came from behind him and punched the football out. But I thought like look the strong suit of Notre Dame is their defense. The strong suit of Ohio State is their offense. Now could Notre Dame's offense do enough damage to Ohio State's defense?

And I didn't think that you know once it got I thought for me once the guy scored got 14-17 I remember calling myself like it was like, it's over. She like, you're just four. I said, but nah, I said, but you look at them how they're just moving the ball down the field with little to no resistance. Willingly. So I was like, yeah, so over the next thing you know,

it's 21, seven, it's 28, seven. I thought it was about to be really be over, Ocho. I thought it was about to go to 35 to seven. They ended up kicking, what, kicking a field goal. Field goal. And Ohio State gets some momentum when they got the fumble. But Ohio State was the superior team. I always felt that if they played their best when the format was the 12 teams that

you know we're going to play for the national championship. That's right. If Ohio State plays their best, they're the best team in football. Because they got an offense that can, with superior athletes and they played $20 million for a roster. It was just a matter of where they're gonna play their best on a given day,

because we've seen them struggle. This is the team that was what three touchdown favorite lose at home to Michigan. And so if they played their best, I didn't think any team could beat them. Now there are teams that have, okay, got a really good defense, so-so offense, really good offense, so-so defense, lose at home to Michigan. And so if they played their best, I didn't think any team could beat them. Now there are teams that have, okay, got a really good defense, so-so offense,

really good offense, so-so defense. I thought Texas was probably the closest thing to them. And we saw Texas take them down to the wire, then they get that strip sack and then put some distance between them. But Ohio State, congratulations to Ryan Day. I mean, he caused a lot of criticism and I think it was warranted.

And then people don't want to just look at it that he won the national championship, but he's underachieved. The players that he had on that roster, those receivers that he sent to the NFL, those D linemen, those DBs, those offensive linemen, and now this is his first title. Can't take that away from him, he has it.

You can't take it away from him now. And you talk about all the players he's had, all the players that have gone into the draft, first round picks, second round picks. But you also have to remember the teams that he lost to, lost to, uh, uh, he, uh, the teams that he's lost to, you know, throughout those years, they also had first round picks, you know, they, they also. They have Marvin Harrison, Jr. and Jackson Smith and Jigba and Olavi and who is that?

What's the Garrett Wilson and Denzel Ward? And what's the other guy's name? You see what you're doing too? Is you're naming players that played for the Ohio State. Some of them not at the same time, some of them did play together, but also the team that they played that they lost to, they played well together as a team now I can't call out all the names of the players are played on the team that they lost to in the past Yeah, right. It was catching some of the flat that he had

Yes, so the team that they did lose to they made these one knows slouches now No, they were going to some boards back-to-back national championship national champions and the big ten Michigan last year this year, Ohio State Ohio the big ten is feeling really good now. Like okay, what's up SEC? What's good? What's really really really happening? But I mean when you just look at a, I mean, the athletes that they got at the skill position, you know, the running backs, uh, the wide receivers,

you know, like Jeremiah Smith is going to be a first, it's going to be a top pick just like Marvin Harrison Jr. Just like all these other guys, all the other receivers that they've had, Olavi and Garrett Wilson and Jackson Smith and Jigba. Go ahead. I have a question as polished, As polished, as Jeremiah Smith is, as NFL ready as he looks, how soon can he come out in the draft?

He's a freshman. He can't come out until after junior year. Oh, so it's in junior year no matter what? No matter what. Okay. No matter what. Let's think about this. Look how we look this year as a freshman.

Imagine improvement that's going to happen in the off season and how you're going to look at the sophomore. I wouldn't be surprised unless a quarterback comes out of nowhere. Maybe Archie Manning would be the only one. Archie Manning is the only one I see rivaling him or giving him competition for that number one pick. Unless there's somebody else chat, maybe in the chat that you might know, that's gonna come along that I don't know about, obviously.

That's gonna be good enough to challenge Jeremiah Smith for that number one pick in what, 2027 or 2028? Yeah, but here's the thing though, Ocho. Theoretically, Archie Manning can come out next year. This'll be his junior year. Wait, what? Yeah, remember? He's a sophomore. Ah, he is a sophomore. That's

right. So he's supposed to be his rising junior year. Okay, okay. So theoretically he could come out after this year. I'm not saying that he would. His uncle stayed all four years. Right. And you know, obviously money is not the issue. No. And the thing is, for me, now these guys are looking at it. The quicker I can come out, the quicker I can get to that second contract. That's going to be now $300 million. Yeah, but you also have to be careful,

especially at the quarterback position. I know you're Manning, but are you ready? Are you ready to be able to play at the next level? Have you been, have you been, I like, I like using the word polish. Cause you can tell at the collegiate level when a player is polished enough and already ready for the NFL level. Now for Archie Manning, if you do come out early, you have to understand you're going

to a team that's bad. Is the situation right? The team that happened to be picking first or second? Bigger pull the power move. Are you going to a situation that suits you? You know, where you can be okay, that has somewhat of a support cast where you can succeed. Even, even.

So many factors come into play. At that point in time, Ocho, it doesn't matter if you're ready. Somebody's about to hand you $50 million in all of it's going to be fully guaranteed. And now you're one step closer to 300 million. That's what guys are looking at, Ocho. Because all you do is kick the can down the road until you get to that big payday. Because quarterbacks, they're redoing their deal after that third year. Everybody else normally waits to after the fourth year.

But you got to think about something, huh? Quarterbacks that are in very good situations do their deals after the third year like a C.J. Shroud. But look what happened to Atrey Lance who also went early you know yes he came down the road and look he went to a situation that wasn't suitable for you long term and now you're the back up with a third string with the Cowboys. He got beat out what you mean it wasn't suitable they so uh Brock Pardee beat him out I mean mean, he, look, he got, oh Joe, you mean to tell me you actually think of somebody will trade what they traded to first round of a second and a third and

won a seventh round Mr. Irrelevant to take his spot. Yeah. Just imagine what would have happened if they don't take Brock Purdy and Trey Lance is their quarterback. Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch would get fired. He saved their job. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, you can't trade on that draft. Ocho, you can't trade all that draft capital. Right. Cause if he doesn't pay it out, you're stuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you rebuild if you've given away all your draft capital? I, I have a question. Yeah. He moved too fast. Was he really that bad? Just think about it. If you remember, was he that bad?

Maybe Purdy was that good. No, no disrespect to Purdy. Yeah. Look, look at what's surrounding him. Come on now. And guess what? Tray Lance had that surrounding him and he couldn't make it work like that. Yeah, okay I'm just curious. We off time. I'm sorry. I could give you the same ingredients that I give Did I give Bobby Flay I give Gordon Ramsay I? Can't want to be stopped by shelf. It don't matter you can't make it work like they make it work, right? Right, right. Yeah, okay. Purdy was a better fit. Purdy was a better fit.

I don't think he's a better quarterback. I don't know if that makes sense. I don't know if that makes sense to you. Because listen, if it, oh, and what we saw from Fields, I'm not talking about the depth of Field, what we saw from Trey Lance, the small, very, very, very small sample size, where Jerry Jones pulled that, you know what, bull crap.

He looked great. He looked good. He looked decent. He looked like a quarterback that can be at the helm and be a leader of men. So I'm thinking to myself, well damn, if he run in the office like this, and it ain't that bad,

what was the problem down there in San Francisco? I don't know, Ochoa. I mean, like I said, I just, I think the thing is like, you know, when you give up that kind of capital for a guy, you want him to succeed because it makes you look bad. The reason, the only reason we're not talking about how big a mistake that was is because Brock Purdy has played so well. He's got him in two NFC championship games. He's taking him to the Superbowl.

So we forget what a colossal mistake drafting him and trading all that capital to get him was because had it not been for that, I'm not so sure they survived that. I don't know if a team can survive. You give up that much because think about it. To move up, you gave him the next year's first round pick. You gave him a second round pick, a third round pick. You gave a second round pick a third round pick That's your future a lot. Yeah, and so you're hoping oh we give that up So what we gonna be picking in the late 20s?

Maybe even 30 30 31 32 cuz we run made a deep playoff run But lo and behold guess what you give up that pick and look where you are And so yeah, it was really tough. And I think, you know, I think Brock Purdy really saved John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan's career than San Francisco, because if you don't, if that doesn't pan out with Trey Lance, where do you go from there? It's too tough.

It's going to be, it's going to be very interesting to see how the 49ers play this thing out, Ocho, because Mark Purdy is going to want 50 million. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Darley never went to an NFC championship game. Sam Darley never went to a play, didn't went to a Superbowl. I know guys that got 50 million and ain't never been to a Superbowl. John Stewart is back at The Daily Show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics

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or wherever you get your podcasts. I think he'll probably get somewhat of a Baker Mayfield type deal. Nah, he'll get more than Baker. You have to understand the success on why Brock Perdy's been able to do what he's done so far today. I do. Um, supporting cast, look what he has around him. I do.

I do. Jim Williams, Christian McCaffrey, uh, George Mason, uh, Devo Samuels. Person. I mean, like we come on with, I mean, even management, even management knows. I know when you talk to the agents, you can't be disrespectful. You have to understand can Brock Purdy go somewhere else and elevate the team around him and elevate the players around him, or does he have to have players that are good to elevate his play?

Yeah, it's a different. There are a lot of quarterbacks, but there are not, there are not a lot of quarterbacks that are forced multipliers that they can elevate everybody else. You believe Sam Darnan can go somewhere else and elevate somebody? No, because they would have done it in Carolina or New York. Okay. Then look what happens when you put him around Jedis, you know, and, um, and Addison, Jordan Addison, where you see what you get.

Obviously they, they, they fold, they fold in the playoffs, but that's what happened. You have a great support and cast around you and that can be management's argument. That could be the GM's argument and the agent and the quarterback has to be realistic. Where else can you go and play the way you've played with us outside of this past season? Right. Look how you played when everybody got hurt.

True. But back to this, uh, this Ohio state, Ohio state, definitely Ryan, they definitely gets the monkey off his back. Oh Joe now, um, we'll see. Can you string some together? Um, it's going to be, it's, it's, it's much more difficult now, oh Joe to win because you got 12 teams and you know, one game and it's over. You know, they started out against what hit it Indiana and then I think no, yeah, I think they started out with Indiana and then they'd be Oregon didn't be Texas So instead of winning two games now, you got to win four

You got to win four games, yeah And and but I think the thing is is a lot eat guess what when you win The thing is, it's a lot eat. Guess what? When you win alumni and boosters, they want to pull money because they like that feeling they like the, they like getting the gear Ocho with 20, 25 national champs. That's what they like. And it says, okay, this is what it's going to take in order for us to stay

up here because other teams, they're going to try to regroup Georgia's like, uh-uh, I don't like this feeling. You know, your Alabamas, your Texas, you know, I think if I'm not mistaken, I think Sark signed a new seven year deal. Yeah. These teams, you know, everybody is looking to come back. It's going to be interesting to see

how Notre Dame plays this thing, because, you know, they had some success this year. I don't know how much they spend in the portal yeah but it's gonna come to a point in time Ocho you're gonna have to a you got to do what you got to do yeah it's really it's really it's really that simple Ocho you got to do what you got to do you got you got to put your money where your mouth is you got to put your money where your mouth is and these big time programs they got 15 20 million dollars

You know 15 20 25 million dollars. Hey, yeah, I need a quarterback. It's gonna cost me one to two million dollars I need a top back on top running back. That's gonna cost me 4 to 600 top flight receiver six to a million Hey D lineman live at a bro. It's gonna call you. Oh you talking about a 18 19 year old co-op Oh Joe, that's gonna have 600 And you, oh, you talking about an 18, 19 year old co- old chow that's gonna have 600, 700, a million dollars. I, I, I'll be gay. I'll be gay. It's talking about being able to secure your family. A head start in securing your family.

Yes. A head start, you know? Mama, hey, they have them projects. We ain't in the projects no more. We ain't in section eight no more, mama ain't in section 8 no more mama. No We've got to get three four bedrooms with a garage It's so funny how the landscape of the NFL is so funny how the landscape of collegiate football has changed especially for The the power five schools especially you have certain boosters that are willing to spin to ensure that you can win everything

It's pay to play. Oh, Joe? Pay, baby. They can lead that student athlete-ish along now. And that student athlete, hey, this pay for play. These guys making money now. Yeah. All that, the student athletes, and I'm going to get an education, okay.

That'll be nice. That'll be nice if you get that along the way. But, uh, once you- It's something nice to fall back on. It's something nice to fall back on. It's something nice to fall back on. But, hey, like this kid from Michigan, they got 12 and a half million. Hey, I have a question.

Oh, time out, time out, time out. Come on now. Are they exaggerating the numbers? Or is it really, well, is it really 10 to 12 million? He got some other perks too. Who is that? What's the guy at Oracle? Larry Ellison.

Larry Ellison's wife. His wife went to Michigan and so he kept being it. He's like, whatever it takes to get this kid, let's get it. See? You see what happened when you have alumni like that? Now that's different. Yeah.

What is he, the third richest? I think he's the third richest man in the world. The third richest man in the world. The third richest man in the world, yeah. With 220 billion, man, what's $12 million to him? Nothing. So even if I did 10%, even if I did 5%, Right. That's like $1,000 to me and you.

12 million to him is like $1,000 to you and I. Right, to him is like a thousand dollars to you and I. Right, right. He ain't missing that. Not a chance. Because he wants his, he wants to see his program or his wife program succeed. But this is where we are now, Ocho. This student athlete bulljie, it's never been that.

It's always been that, but it was always hush hush. Okay, hey, I get you this charger, this challenge, scat pack this you know this you know I'm saying I what is what this guy what a the scat pack I get you this SRT eight I get you know I get you this hell cat you know I'm saying it was it was that going on it was the backwood deals all of a sudden damn how y'all bro y'all was just at the project with us how y'all in y'all was just at the project with us. How y'all in this three bedroom cross town now? Yeah.

Now everything is above the board. God, it ain't no more challenges. Guys driving Ferraris and Lambo. You see what you do ahead. Oh, well see, listen, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta be one of them. Now you gotta be one of them. Yeah. You're one of them.

You could already start your NFL career and the image is if you've already made it, you got to be him. Yes. Yes. If you're one of them, you could already start your NFL career. And the image is if you've already made it, you got to be him. Yes. So you know, the top guys, they're going to be getting, you know, $3, $4 million a year. Arch Manning going to be making $4, $5 million. He probably done made $10, $11 million, Ocho. Already. And you know, hey, he come from, you know, Cooper Cooper, I paid me live, but

he ain't, they hurting. Nah, they ain't heard at all. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He's stashing all his money. And I just hope the guys that are getting this money, they're getting very sound financial advice because that's taxes. You're in that bracket.

You make over 400,000 you in that bracket and bracket in that bracket day. So in other words, you made 200,000. You're in that bracket. You make over 400,000, you in that bracket. And bracket, yeah. In that bracket day. So in other words, you made 200,000. You didn't make 400, you made 200. Cause Uncle Sam want his cut. Uncle Sam the only guy that don't go to work and get half your money. Yeah, and he don't play too.

And if he don't get it, if he don't get it, if he don't get it, he gonna knock on your door down the line. Oh, he gonna get it. It's just a matter of fact, when he get it, because he already know what you got. Cause they can see everything like, oh, you ain't got it like you used to have it, huh?

Okay. Oh, oh, you know, interest. Cause they put that compound interest on your ass. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, you can't pay. And guess what? We gonna just put the interest on it

until you do pay it all back Mm-hmm now they get you they when they owe you they give you a little bit of interest you owe them They compound that interest. Yeah, so But congratulations to the Buckeyes. You know, you saw this Bryce Bryce Harper was there He's a big Ohio State fan two-time NLMVP LeBron was there a lot of the stars were out It's kind of not my thing to go, because like I said, I don't really know anybody that's playing college football. I'm not a big, you know, I like college football, but I mean me going to a game, it's not like the NBA for me, Ocho. Like I said, if I had a friend, somebody had a son that's playing, okay, yeah, I go check it

out. Yeah, I'm a root for yeah. Yeah, right If I mean tonight, I mean I would I would have loved I would have loved to go to the game obviously I would have been able to watch Ryan Clark son I would have been able to watch him play actually actually being able to watch Jeremiah Smith It would it would have been nice to play but just go into a game, you know You know experience the atmosphere just to watch two players that I can watch at home on TV. I mean, it's, I love- So it's prime if Colorado's in the national championship game,

I'd have win. Oh yeah. Yeah, I'd have win. Yeah, you know, just as much. Yeah, yeah. Other than that, no, it was, Ocho, without any further ado, I'd like to welcome, is he about to,

we're gonna welcome D'Michael Jenkins. He's a Cesar, a real estate developer, investor, custom home designer, as well as chief operator, officer, and owner of 3D Vision. And unfortunately, Ocho, he was involved in a disgusting racial profiling act outside of his own home. And so welcome, Mikey.

Congratulations to your Buckeyes. Well done, I know you sell, I'm surprised you got on your buckeye shirt. But congratulations to your buckeyes to you. And I think that's, if that's your wife. Yeah. Yeah. Congratulations, ma'am. Thank you for joining us. Mikey, if you can go back, I know it was November and here we are in late January. If you can recount the events as you remember as vividly as you possibly can. Yeah, I can remember.

It wasn't too long ago. I was leaving one of my real estate job sites in the inner city, wrapping it up for the day. It was about 5.15, took me about 45 minutes to get home. I'm proud to go home. Shannon, something I want you to know is when they say it's a fluent neighborhood, it's one of the most wealthiest neighborhoods in Ohio. Wow.

Congrats. And my house is the best house in the world. I'm talking about because I come on that. I've designed it from scratch. I'm an architectural designer. I bought the land. I financed the land, designed it from scratch and I built it from the ground that using all my resources.

So proud to come home. I'm pulling up checking out my Christmas lights we just put up for the holiday season and there happens to be a lady in the driveway with two kids. So I don't think nothing of it. Kids coming in and out my house all the time. I got kids got a family over here. I don't think nothing of it nothing. I think she's looking for the front door. I say, hey, are you looking for somebody? She doesn't answer. She then proceeds to go through the porch. So I'm like, okay, so she's probably coming over. So I pull in the driveway. I'm about to park and she rings the doorbell and comes to the front of the front porch and stops me and says, do you live here?

And I said, yeah, I live here. She said, well, I don't think so. So I feel, well, what are you doing here? She says, I don't think you live here. Picks the kid, kid up, drops the stroller, hops off the porch, starts running, and I hear screaming, yelling for help. At that point, now I'm in fear. I'm in fear because I know what we face as black men in America.

So I rushed to the garage, park in the garage, come in the house, my wife in the office. I said, babe, some white, uh, Caucasian lady, she just jumped off our front porch, screamed me yelling for help. I don't know if she gonna call the police. I'm pacing back and forth. I don't know what's about to happen. 6 p.m. regular day. We pacing back and forth. I don Don't at this point. I'm like, I don't know what's about to happen She comes back before the police gets here I Don't want to go outside. I don't want to go outside with them outside and the police pulls up and we're I don't know What's gonna pop off if police pull up, altercation happen, anything could happen. Right.

I know they're gonna talk, so my wife's come outside and she just wants to figure out what's going on because she's in shock and I let her say how she ended up coming outside or what not. Okay when he came home and he said you know. I was gonna ask you., he comes into the house, he says, babe, there was a white lady standing on my porch. She's running, yelling, screaming. I don't know what this is about.

And so what's going through your mind when he explains what he just encountered? I was in my office working and I'm confused. I'm not understanding what's going on. Like, what do you mean there's a white woman running for help? Screaming for help for what? He's like, I don't know. And immediately I just heart dropped.

I'm like walking and pacing back and forth. Like, okay, just wait, just wait. Okay, well, what happened? Nothing. I was just pulling in the house. And I'm like, what is she screaming for? He's like, I don't know. And I'm like, what? What? And I keep opening up the door because I feel like the police is

gonna come here. Somebody's about to come here and I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't even know what fully happened. I didn't hear anything. I'm in the house working. So she go- And so I kept opening up the door and that's when I came out. So she called. So she did end up calling the police. She did end up calling the police. Okay. So let me ask you a question. Now this happened in November. The video just recently got released.

What caused you guys to release because I'm glad this is on Ring camera because you're absolutely right. Had this not been captured on camera, on video, we already know the story that was gonna be told and how it was gonna be spun, but you guys had it on camera. What made you guys finally decide to release it? Well, I actually released the video in our community Facebook group. We have a community Facebook group about 500 or so people.

And it, ever since I've been like we've been chatter we've been upset we've been is so many different factors and so many different feelings so many different feelings I picked a video in our community Facebook group to share what happened and it took a lot for me to do that. And then we woke up in the video everywhere. You know, it's funny, it's one thing to experience racial profiling in public, you know, in public, I'm sure we all have stories where it happens in that setting. Well, for it to happen in your own home, I mean, it can be

unsettling, it can be uncomfortable, especially when it comes to a place that you call a place of peace. We peace that we go, we can all get away from, you know, from the outside world. Has that affected your sense of security and trust in the neighbors and have you reconciled in any way with the neighbor who calls these issues? Of course, there's a lack of trust. Of course, it makes us feel unwelcome and unsafe. We have two boys and he leaves our family, he protects our family. So to know that we can't go walk the dog or someone looking at us is what's going to happen. It's a lot of weight, it's a lot of pain and it's a lot of emotion.

I can't steer. And he's being synthesized to this. I still hear it in your voice. So of course. But it not weren't that we got, I thought the next day maybe there would be a flower at the door saying, not once has this person reached out to us to give us a sincere apology.

Whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, hey. I reached out to the way immediately after happen. Nobody say anything immediately after it happened. H.O.A. ghosted me. Wow. For lack of better words. Can I ask you this? Prior to that night, prior to that incident, had you ever seen this woman

prior to this incident? I've been in a neighborhood for three years. I built the house from the ground up. I know the developers in the neighborhood. I lived in the front of the neighborhood while I built the house. I walked to the job site every day. So have I seen her eye for eye? No. I've walked by her house and seen them on the front porch. So she's when they came, I didn't recognize. Go ahead, Mel. Go ahead. I didn't recognize them, but we but I was going to say the 90 percent,

90 percent or more of the neighborhood is predominantly Caucasian. So we're one of one black families in the neighborhood. And our house sits all the way in the back of the neighborhood. And the people ride by and take pictures every day and there's a lot of publicity with our house. So it really was, it was shocking. But they stay to themselves in the neighborhood. Let me ask you this.

When you walk up and you ask, what can I help you with? And she says, is this your house? You say, yeah. And she says, I don't believe you. When someone tells you they're standing on your porch and they tell that's not their property. And they tell you that this is not your property. What went through your mind when someone is standing on your porch and they say, well, you don't live here. Well, that's when I was battle tested as a black man as a man And in the prison, um, that's you know Had to transition and learn how to put pride and ego to the side and control your emotions. Okay, that's when I kicked in

That was a that was the ultimate battle test because because in my mind, I said the audacity, the audacity of her. That was in my mind, but I could I had to control my emotions in the moment because I knew where it could have escalated at. I'm thinking, well, what if she what if she had a gun?

Right. Would she have been running or what I have been running? Is this a situation because now she said, well, you have to see it from my point of view. No, I don't need to see anything from your point of view when you standing, you know what, on my porch. But for her to say, well, you didn't say,

well, I really live here, I live here. I don't have to identify myself, this is mine. Why do I have to tell you who I am when you standing on my property? It's I mean it's it's it's it's um, it's it took everything out of me, you know, not to get out of character And especially when they came back, um, you know, she brought her husband back. He was real standoffish I was I was scared to go outside but I said on it. I was listening I said, I can't let my wife sit out here with these people. What if the police pull up? So, you know, I went outside and I just had to make my face now. And I had to let them know I do live here. A black man does live here. I did build this

house from the ground up. I did design this house. I had to show my face. And as soon as I came outside, you could tell, they switched it all the way up. Let's get out of here, let's go. They switched it all the way up. When the police arrived, what did the police say? Okay, what was the side of the story that they told the police?

And then what did the police, what was the interaction once the authorities arrived? I hid in the house. I didn't talk to the police. I'm not gonna come out there with them. Those police might gun me down. So you let your wife... I hid in the house.

So you let your wife... I let her handle that. Okay. What... I made a report. I made a police report. It was emotional to make a police report because we all know what happens. And you call the police. So I had to think to myself, do I go outside? Do I let them come inside? Do I sit up? Do I stand down? Do I let my son be sitting here? How do I explain this to him?

And even explaining and sharing that this lady racially profiled as she ran from our house screaming. There's no telling what people can think. My son came home from work who's 17 and said, Mom, what about taking out the trash? What if she had a gun? What are the like what's going on? Why are the police here? That's crazy. Hey, this, but I knew I had to make this work. That's crazy. Hey, this. But I knew I had to make the report. And despite the difficulties of the situation you've been through, have you guys or are you guys moving forward with reclaiming your sense of safety being that it is home and

in any way, despite them not, you know, giving sincere apologies or letting you know that we welcome you here in our home, especially HOA and the neighbor cells. Do you still have hope and motivation to keep sharing your story from this point on for others that might encounter these situations and ways they can prevent things from happening and being able to deescalate those situations? 100%. Uh, I have nothing against their family. But I grew up dealing with this all

the time. So we still have to live here. They live two streets out. We have to ride by each other's house. I'm okay with being cordial with riding by each other's house. I have no issue with that. The issue is getting a word out here and letting letting my situation and what I've been through and what I overcome be inspiring to people in the world, people that look like me. So that's the space I'm in. And I'm thankful for God because I didn't ask for her to show up on my porch. This is God's movement here.

This is God telling me that people need to hear your story. You need to inspire. You need to tell people what's going on and use this so that hopefully this won't happen to the next person or the next person that comes across a care situation. They will know how to control their emotion because us as black men, especially young black men, we struggle with that. We struggle with that impulse, with that, that acting we have, we, we, we think irrationally and we never think ration. So I'm here to inspire people. Um,

I'm a real estate developer. I build houses from the ground up, single family houses. But I thought that moving into the most wealthiest neighborhood in Ohio, that this was the right thing to do. But maybe my focus needs to be build communities. That's for us and by us so that we can inspire people That looks like us We can we can build a community. That's for us. Can I ask you a question?

You said something very interesting you said she lives two streets up from you So you mean to tell me she went two streets out of her way to try to find out who lived in this home? Not not not on your street is not not on your block not on your street not on your block not next to you two streets It's two streets up, but it's she's all the way north. We're all the way down It's multi-million dollar housing back here. The lots are big, so it's two streets, but it's still, we can go 30 days, 60, 90 days without seeing each other. So she went out of her way. Let me ask you this.

She issued an apology. She also said that she reached out to you and tried to apologize multiple times, but she hasn't had a response from you. Has she tried to, did she try to apologize to you in person or was it through this video that you guys have seen? She has not tried to apologize to us in person via phone, via knock at the door, via phone call, via email. No, only the live videos.

Now, apparently if we were to believe what the report says, that this woman has a history going back as far as 2018 of creating these situations and then making herself out to be a victim. Have you guys seen that? Have y'all seen any of those reports that's being circulated? I haven't seen that. I have not seen that. Can I ask you this? I want to ask you this. Have you thought about since your privacy, your security, have you thought about potentially even leaving that neighborhood and going elsewhere?

Or you say, nah, y'all not going to run us up out of our home. 100%. I've been in Ohio my whole life and I face racial discrimination at its highest peak. I'm a stereotype person, tattooed dreadlocks, a man that's in the professional world, in the real estate development world, that you don't see too many minorities building multimillion dollar homes. It doesn't happen here. So we 100% have thought about moving to another state, taking my town as elsewhere, building a community to go on places where we can be surrounded by more people that look like us. Man.

So let me ask you a question. What was your relationship with the neighborhood? Did you have any interaction with your neighbors, like to the left of you, in the front of you, to the back of you? What was, what's the neighborhood? Like I noticed you mentioned it's a very affluent neighborhood. There's a lot of wealthy people that live there. You mentioned million dollar homes.

What's the relationship with you in the community other than with this said individual? So it's the wealthiest neighborhood. And they got a saying that once you reach a certain tax bracket, race doesn't matter. That's a lie. So it's a lot. But people say that people say that. So everybody out here, majority of people out here, they walk every day. They take pictures of our house. They say hi.

You can ask people in the neighborhood. Those people are not friends. They don't say hi. They don't take too many walks. They don't walk their dog. They stay in their house. They are stand off Hmm. No, the neighborhood is friendly But I don't know about them. She says something very interesting Go ahead, ma'am. I was just gonna say we participate in community events and you know for the most part the neighborhood is friendly

She posted videos after this happened and the neighbors brought it to us because they picked two and two together. So that's how we even found out that they knew about it. She, she, she mentioned to you, um, as you was walking up, you have to see her point of view, she's walking her kids is late at night. If you're that afraid, why are you out at night walking your kids if you as afraid as you say you are? Did you like, did that cross your mind? Like, well, if you say you're afraid, why are you out here in the dark by yourself? You're married, your husband's not with you, and you got a small child.

So it can't be that dangerous. You can't be that fearful of your life if you choose at night to walk a child It's it's six o'clock and they It gets dark early. But yeah, we thought about that. I mean worse. I wouldn't be outside walking with no no. Yeah No Not at all, especially if you you know have been through things or whatever. Like I'm not walking at night. Period. That's crazy. It's as simple as that. And as soon as someone tells me that's their house, all bets are off. Okay, look, you know, if you're scared, then you can walk home. That's it.

I don't know. I guess I just look at things differently. I've really never walked by somebody's house. Oh, you live here? Definitely I'm not standing on somebody's porch and asking if this is their home. If they drive up, I'm in the neighborhood, I see somebody in the driveway or somebody on the porch, I throw my hand up, I keep it moving.

I'm not going to stand on someone's porch and ask them if they live here. That's none of my concern. That's just me. Maybe, maybe, maybe I'm, maybe, I don't think I'm unique in that, guys. Oh, we ain't nosy. That's pretty nosy like that, though. We ain't nosy like that, man. We see somebody, man. We turn up the deuce, we say hello and we keep it moving. The first thing we

say, we see a nice house. Boy, that thing that nice, ain't it? Right. And we keep it moving. It ain't our business. You mentioned that you have a 17 year old son and as black, we have to have that conversation with our black young men is that we always, always yes, sir. No, sir. It's yes, ma'am. No, ma'am. When you pull, get pulled over, look, Hey, just be as polite as you possibly can, because your job is to get that man or that woman to your car, back to their car and on their way It's quick as you possibly can it's not about you know, all this and all that will fight it in court

Whatever it is if they said I was speeding if I was improper lane change I don't have a tail light or what erratic driving. Let's go to court We could argue it in front of a judge in front of 12 people people. I can't argue, I gotta have you make it home. Have you had to have that talk with him? Have you had it already, or did you have to have that talk with him immediately after this incident? Absolutely. Absolutely, it was emotional, and it was multiple talks.

It was multiple talks, and even with days where it's like, you know what, I don't know if you should go outside and walk our dog. Let me see, make sure you go out before it gets dark. It's a lot of weight, it's a lot of weight. You've received a lot of overwhelming support from social media though. I mean, everybody's been on your side.

The social media has come to your defense and like the way you handle it and you mentioned your situation having made some decisions in your previous when you were younger and you learned and you said look I got a channel this I'm not I'm not gonna give them the ability says I'm angry and I have every right to be angry because I'm in dead I'm in the right here but nobody cares about that because all they're going to look at you as a black man, look at your history and bring that into the equation when it had nothing to do

with this woman standing on your porch. If you could, people, people are going to watch this. This is going to get picked up. If you could say, what would you want people to know watch this, this is gonna get picked up. If you could say, what would you want people to know about you, your family, and how you handled this situation? I'm a black man in America that's overcame every obstacle that could be thrown at you. Growing up, making bad decisions,

being around the wrong people, and being given a second chance to transition. Raising a family, being married, my 17 year old, I've been there since he was six months. This is this is this is my it's my son, but he's not my biological. I've raised him as he's my son. I have an eight-year-old as well I'm here to inspire people to show people that control your emotion Control your emotion

That's a that's that's that's that's one of the most powerful as things that a man can do because a dangerous man is a man that can't control his emotion. So a situation like this that's broadcasted across the world, you can see that I was given every single reason to act and I still control my emotions. So I want to use this moment, So I want to use this moment, these platforms to inspire people, lead people, and to show them what a real man is and what a real man is supposed to do. You take care of your family, protect your family, control your emotions, and that's what we're here to do. And also build communities. I want to build houses from the ground up. I want to build communities. I want to design high-end luxury homes. These are things that I want to do

that I got a passion for that is in my bloodline. Custom home builds. My grandpa was a custom home designer and builder these are things that I want to take to the next level and be known for and show people that and in the real estate industry that We can strive we can survive and we can do what they do and even better So that's what I'm here for. Do you have a sense or when or if you will ever get your normalcy back

because your life has been interrupted, you didn't ask for this, but as you mentioned before, God don't put on any more of this than what we can handle. He chose you. He chose you for a reason. And the way you handled yourself in that situation, I'm not so sure a lot of us,

because she went out of her way. She had no business on your porch to begin with. If she didn't think you lived there, she could ask that question from the street. You don't bring your tail on someone else's front porch and then ask them, that's not your place. I can see if you were at her house and you're asking for directions,

you're like, are you lost? Do you need help? She's on your place. I can see if you were at her house and you're asking for directions, you're like, oh, you lost, you need help. She's in your, she's on your property. Did you think about pressing charges for trespassing? We did. And they, they threw it under the rug. They filed a police report that was a nothing that we told them. We asked for the police report. They never gave it to us. We had to track them down and get the police report and looked at it. It was vague. We thought about pressing charges. We did all that. I thought she gave me every right. She's on my property.

That's self-defense. I could have gunned them down. But I had to hold my composure as a man for my family because even though it was self-defense, it could have been self-defense not for black man Not for us Hey Wow The Michael thank you for sharing your story with us. We really appreciate it. You have that thing very well To your wife. What's your name ma'am? Britney You and the Michael handled it very very well

I'm not so sure very many people would have handled it with the class and with the poise that you did. You did everything right. And even though you did everything right, it seems like everything has gone wrong. She was wrong for coming onto your property. The authorities seem to be wrong for how they've handled this situation. Hopefully you get the clarity, you get the judgment, the respect that you deserve in this situation

because you did everything right. And seemingly as of right now, things are going wrong. Hopefully the Nightcap family, everybody that's in this chat, we're praying for you that you get your sense of peace. You get your sense of normalcy and you get everything that you deserve back tenfold because just talking to you You're a good man. Really. You're a good woman. Y'all a great family Yes, and you're doing the right thing

so I tip my hat to you for the way you handle this situation and Continue to be blessed. God's gonna continue to bless you Because you're a good man and you do great things for the community. And I wanna thank you, Ocho and I, Nightcap family wanna thank you for sharing your story with us. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. This is gonna go out and you're gonna get an outpouring of support.

Yes, sir. And it still wouldn't be enough for what you guys went through. But I thank you for sharing your story here with us on Nightcap, continue to be blessed, continue success, and we'll talk to you soon down the road. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Have a good one.

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would you like to have this couple on? I said, absolutely. And I just told them, I said, look, we're coming on late. We're coming on after the game. And so they'd be in the second block. And they said, we don't care. We wanna share this story. We wanna share it on your platform.

And so this is what we try to do. I mean, yeah, we're a sports show, but we talk about sports, we talk about culture, we talk about finance. All we try to do is share positive light. Some things are not positive, but we wanna show our community that good can come out of a situation like this.

And the way he handled it, like I said, Ocho, I don't know that very many people you standing on my front porch asking me, do I live here? I don't know who does, but I just know you don't. Well, you know what? A lot, a lot of times you have to think about it, especially when it comes to home, when it comes to safety, uh, in someone's property, most of the time they meet fire with fire. Yes. They're not really that well that well trained or adverse in

de-escalating situations. Like also another problem that most of us have is we love challenging authority because we know our rights. You know instead of having the mindset, well I tell my kids all the time, you have the mindset, you wanna go home. Exactly. Your end goal, whether you know all your rights, whether you know everything, I don't care. You wanna go home at the end of the day, that's it. But I think if we get to a point where we understand

that even though we know our rights, we know everything and try to do everything by the book, at the end of the day, you wanna get home to your family. Black man, white man, black kid, I mean, whatever it may be. Learn to deescalate situations. You don't always have the child's authority because you wanna show you're smart, and you know this, you know that.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. I just want to get home to my kids and I'm gonna go home to my family. That's it. Ocho, sometimes you can be in the right and not be right. Yeah. He was in the right. But he knows how this was gonna play out.

I don't believe he really, and I meant to ask him this. And she said she shared it with the Facebook community. Had she not had the lady not got on there and started lying and try to make it seem like she was the victim, they just wanted this to go away. They wanted to go back to their normal life. Right. She interrupted that. She interrupted their peace and not for a good reason. They

said she lived two streets to the north. They're in the back to the south. The south. So you got to go out of your way. What it was, Ocho, that big house. I know ain't no black man pulling up to this house. Why you care? You ain't got to pay one bill. Not water, not gas, not light, not phone, not property tax or nothing. Why you care? Um, me, a part of, a part of me, Ocho, a part of me, I understand that his normalcy and his peace and his safety has been impacted, but I kind of don't want him to move. I think that's kind of what they want him to do.

Because they mentioned that there might be one on one in that neighborhood. And they got the biggest lot in that neighborhood and they kind of want him out. Nah, I ain't going nowhere. Y'all leave. I ain't going nowhere. This is mine. I bought this. And then they said they'd been getting the run around from the authorities and HOA.

I don't know what HOA do anyway. They pull a car car. They'll do nothing. Yeah, that's just another way. That's just another way to get one hundred fifty, two hundred, three hundred dollars a month. Yeah. To do what? Because I can cut the grass myself at the front of the entrance? Yeah, y'all talking about. Y'all taking up $300 a month from everybody. And what y'all doing with that money?

Light stay out for two, three weeks. Uh-huh. Man, but I am so glad that we're able to get Brittany and DeMichael on. He goes by Mikey. I'm glad we were able to get that family on nightcap. This is what we try to do, Ocho and I. We try to bring, you know, we try to wear this stores like this or the some athlete or whatever the case may be. We just try to give you the best show that we possibly can on a given night.

And this was supposed to be a very routine night. Talk about the national championship game. There's some other sports stores that's circulating, but with the opportunity. And it just goes to show you, Ocho, because the person reached out to me and they's like, hey, uh, I wanna ask you something. I was like, yeah, what's up? She's like, would you like to have the couple

on that you and Ocho talked about? They saw your story. I was like, really? They's like, yeah, and they want to share it with you. Yeah. I called Ash. I said, Ash, guess what? She's like, what? I said, because she always asked, what? I said, you know, the couple we were talking about in that video last night. They want to come on and share the story Yeah, she's like really I was like, yeah And you know, I would show like I said, we're on the East Coast. It's gonna be late. They're there in Ohio. Hey This like it doesn't matter

We want to come on. Yeah And then we have it so Now I'm gonna say, man, listen, the story is inspiring, which we also have to understand is situations like this has been going on for a very long time. Situations like this are going to continue to happen. So they're telling their story and also inspiring people and understanding his background and his history and how far he's come and being able to transition and getting a second chance that most of us aren't afforded can also prevent those that might get that one chance where it's in a situation where, you know, everybody ain't getting no second

chance. Yeah. Everybody ain't getting no second chance. So being able to do diffuse situation to deescalate situations and have your right state of mind, you know, in place when stuff like this happens, you know, maybe not to this magnitude, but in another scenario, you got to be on point. You got to be on point at all times.

So they're going to test you now. Yep. But I took a lot of a lot of from that because like he said, he could have reacted in such a way that wasn't been wouldn't been beneficial to his family and it definitely would have been beneficial to the woman that invaded his privacy and his his space but I'm glad he handled this the situation the way he handled it so thank you all Mikey and Brittany for sharing your story with us on Nightcap and we wish you the best down the line. The Volume I wish you the best down the line.

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