Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: OLD MAN Joe Flacco SHOCKS the Steelers + Micah COMPLAINS about the refs AGAIN + Dak Prescott TAKING PAYCUT?

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Joe Flacco and the Cincinnati Bengals beating Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers in a thriller, Micah Parsons sounds off about how he’s been officiated, and CeeDee Lamb says he is 100% and is ready to play this Sunday and much more! 5:20 - Steelers at Bengals34:30 - Micah Parsons on the Refs46:10 - CeeDee Lamb is back to 100%50:25 - Dak wants to talk to Jerry about keeping Pickens (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Absolutely. Seven combined passing touchdowns, over 400 yards for both teams, almost 500 for the Bengals, and they win a close ball game 33, 31 over division rival Pittsburgh Steelers. Y'all know who I am, and I want to first thank you for joining us. Y'all know who I am.

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and my clothing company, 84, with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Guys, make sure you guys go subscribe to the Debo and Joe show. They'll be live with analysis of this game tomorrow at 11 a.m. Eastern. You all have a lot to say about this game, but Debo going crash out because, whew, Joe Flack over 31, 47, 342, three touchdowns, no sacks. They ran the ball 23 times for a buck 42.

Jamar Chase 16 catches a buck. 61 in the touchdown. Higgins, six for 96 and a touchdown. Noah Fount had four for 44 and a touchdown. There wasn't a whole lot of defense being played. But here we go. Ocho, the Bengals beat the Steelers and 3331 and what many called the icy hot bowl. This was not the unc bowl. This was the uncles.

Uncle's. No, no, no. They ain't no, they're uncles. That's my uncle. So, Ocho, watching this game, I mean, look, Steelers jumped out. to a 10-0 lead, like, damn, Bengals. And then all of a sudden, start of the fourth quarter, the Bengals have a 10-point lead.

And then the Bengals have a 10-point lead to start the fourth quarter. And the next thing you know, the Steelers go down in the field. Rogers hit Fryermuth. He takes off and they have a one-point lead. But if you're a Steelers fan, based on what you had seen up until that point,

you could not have felt comfortable with the way your defense was playing. Every defense of bat from the Steelers, Chase gave it to everybody. He gave it to Ramsey the first half. He said, you know what? I think Slay and Porter feeling left out. I'm going to make sure y'all a ass get it the second half.

So don't nobody feel like, oh, he was picking on, pick on somebody's size. I picked on everybody and gave it to everybody. And T. Higgins said, hold on. Did they forget about me? Hey, give me that shot down. Give me that real shot. Let me end this thing. And he did something smart.

He said, nah, I could score. I could split it. But now, let me go on down. Because I don't want y'all to get a chance to do nothing crazy. Because I know Aaron Rogers known to throw a hair or Mary here or there. but you won't get a chance to. Oh, Joe, watching this game, what did you like about what you saw from your bingles tonight?

Well, first off, we know what Flacco did. We know what Chase did. We know what Teagan did. But I'm going to get credit to the officer line. I want to give credit to the officer line. I want to give credit to Zach Taylor. Not worrying about all the noise on the outside. Oh, he needs to be fired.

Oh, it's the play calling. It wasn't none of that. That was never the problem. Winning games like this against a division opponent, it starts up front. The officer's line played extremely well tonight. They kept Flacco clean for most of the game. Obviously, T.J. Watt and Hayward got a sack towards the end.

I don't want to call it garbage time because it was very important that we're able to get down the field. But outside of that, they kept Flacko clean all goddamn thing. That goddamn third down and they ran a goddamn read option with Joe Flacco. They never expected it. A read option with Joe Flacco? Who does that with a quarterback? That's not a dual threat. Beautiful play call

That's why it worked Because you're not expected At all At all Beautiful play goal Obviously the Steelers They didn't really Really play good defense

They had some Some blown assignments On defense Allow chase to Get off On that shallow Crawls laying the ball Yeah

That man got 15 catches How the hell You let him get free For 16 on the shallow cross It ain't nobody guarding There was confusion There was a confusion At the second level

Once the motion went And once the motion went, Patrick Queen, they was confused on who was supposed to pick up who. And now obviously Chase freed up outside. Well, I'm picking up, I'm picking up Chase. If somebody else getting the ball, I'm good with that. I can live with that, Ocho. I'm picking up Chase. Man, that ain't your guy.

Don't worry about it. He got 15 catches. I'm just trying to make sure you don't get 16. But listen, man, it's amazing, right? It's amazing what happens when you get a quarterback with a veteran presence that's used to willing dealing. and you put him in a situation, you put him in the atmosphere with two elite receivers like that,

a good quarterback, a good number three, a nice tight end. You saw Noah Fent got integrated into the offense a little bit more tonight. Yeah. It looked great. This is one of the best games, and it got so good to the point on,

I didn't even care who won the game. I didn't even care who won the game because it was so exciting on both sides of the ball, you know, not really much defense, but Aaron Roger was dealing. He was. Joe Flacko was dealing.

One bad play. He had one bad play. The DB made an excellent play on, on a D.K. Medcaf to pull that ball out? The interception? That's not on Rogers. Oh, yeah, it definitely was. That was good.

A, DJ Turner, Unk? Yeah. He's quarterback number one. He's quarterback number one. I don't know what happened. I don't know why Camp Taylor Britt with a healthy scratch tonight. I wasn't sure. But after watching tonight, how they played, the DB played, especially DJ Turner, or I salute you.

Boy, I'll excuse you. Could you show Joe, you know what the night, boy. But that goddamn officer line, that officer's line, he's all the credit for the night on. Because we already know what Chase could do. We already know what T. Higgin could do. We know what Chase Brown could do. We were able to establish the run. Before tonight's game, Chase Brown was average, two yards of carry, huh?

Two. Two yards a carry. He finished, what, with 106? I think maybe he had 100 and 70. 108 on 11 carries. Man, that's beautiful. Anytime you can run the ball like that, it makes everything else you want to do. easy it opens up the playbook man it was a beautiful thing and the fact that we as a team

now we can compete why can we compete because we got a quarterback a quarterback that's only been here for 24 hours he been here for 24 hours and i heard i heard some um some of the stuff they gave they gave him he had 30 plays they gave him 30 plays last week that's all he had on this plate was 30 plays and obviously playing the green bay game it's only so much you could do, but it looked good in that second half. When I saw that driving the second half, I'm like, wait a minute, I think we're going to be all right.

And tonight, I'm sure they added more to his plate, and this is what you get. This is what you get. So next week, I'm not sure who we plan. We're going to look even better offensively. Defense, just meet us halfway. Meet us halfway, and by the time December gets here, showing that we can compete in regards to who we plan

because the offense is now back because we have a competent quarterback that can make all the throw. we're going to be all right. You got the Jets. I'm happy. Ocho. Now you understand why Tomlin made those comments.

Oh! Now you understand. He said you have a quarterback that was good enough to be your opening day starter. You trade into a team that needs a quarterback. Yes. Either Andrew Barry is smarter than either of us. But yeah, yeah, most definitely.

And the funny thing, about it is Tom and understood is you take a quarterback like Joe Flacco that's been in different situations different offenses and you put him in an offense with that kind of talent with the kind of talent that can raise your level of play flacco ain't got to do much he's not on a team where he has to raise his level of play because the lack of talent around him it's the opposite way when you come here they're going to lift him opposite way oh cho the thing is you say game 30 plays he don't need but two plays if chase is one-on-one throw it to him.

Period. They got Chase double, throw it to T. Higgins. It's not really that complicated. And he dropped, he dropped one, he had a shallow cross against Queen. And you see, and you saw Flacco face. Oh, my God. That was the easiest pan, you, the play that you've made tonight, and you dropped that one. So he probably should have 17 to 18.

I'm going to start calling Chase Mr. Thursday night. Because we know what he does on Thursday night. You know, last year, he had 11 for 264. 11 for 264. Three touchdowns. Three touchdowns. A matter of fact. in the first half, this I know, and we talked about it too.

Well, I talked about how Carson and I had that sense of, if we see a certain play, he had checking and change it. Man, Black, and God damn Chase did that in the first half? Yeah. Flacco saw the coverage. He tapped his, he tapped his helmet, checked out of the run, and they must have knew what it was. He threw it right to chase.

Through it right to him. I say, no, we're going to be all right. I'm going to be a thing. I have one thing I want to say, too, also. With that. For all the Bengals fans that are probably white, this tonight in the chat this is why this is why despite some of the things you you were saying is it's not about Zach Taylor it's not about the play caller it's all about those that on the field

executing the plays that are called and when you have a quarterback this is why they're paid the big bucks yep have a quarterback anything is possible anything is possible I know one thing they better not let flack out that goddamn room I don't care even when Joe Burrow come back do not let number 16 get out that goddamn room back up from now on. Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. That's why they went and got it. They got a guy to have a big time arm.

He can throw, he can make throws. He understands, look, he doesn't have mobility. So you've got to protect him. You've got to do a better job of protecting because he has limited mobility. Now, especially from the pocket. Now, you saw him run that naked on the zone read that naked. I'm not, hey, ain't nobody. I mean, Hoss Smith crashed down because I'm not anticipating him pulling the ball.

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Don't even worry about it. Because he gave it to everybody. Yeah. Everybody. And it wasn't close. It wasn't like there was some, some throws like there. He threaded the needle and you guys were right there. Y'all wasn't close.

No. Y'all wasn't close. Not at all. And just go ahead and chalk this one up. Hey, hey, it happens. But for him, for, for Chase, for them, I've never seen somebody hunt the number one D.B. Like they hunted tonight. Yeah.

Well, definitely. More definitely. you're not even with with satan or the top corners you're not supposed to hunt like that yeah well actually i wouldn't even call the hunting i would say most of the time during our time during our time when you had a great db most of the time the quarterback for some reason they would never go his way no hell no you're taking that chance you don't even challenge them no for some reason and i'm telling you based on experience is when we're playing against top corners you know the office you know the office it goes away from the individual and it almost it almost make you upset it almost make you upset but tonight boy flaco didn't care he didn't care he did not care he did not care i mean he gave it to a look ram had a bad had an off night yeah um slay they put slay on him slay they slay you take him in the second half slay couldn't do anything with him uh uh junior um joy porter junior you don't have to learn how to play better without his hands yeah he too touchy feeling he

get a lot he get a lot of PI's yeah he get yeah he gonna get a lot of PI and you you're gonna have to learn to do a better job locate the ball let the guy go uh he got two PI he got one on t higgins he got one on chase yeah and he's looking like man what bro you can't tug the guy's jersey because the back judge is standing right there he can see it and you do it in the middle of the field yeah you can see all of that and as a defense the back, obviously, you know, playing against the T. Higgins, playing against the Jamar Chase, some of the stuff that you're able to get away with because of your skill set with lesser caliber receivers, it'll work. When you play against your elite receivers, your whole game plan

have to change. Your whole game plan in the way you, the way you play them, it has to change. It just has to. The thing is, Ocho, like when you play a great receiver, what you normally would get away with with a lesser receiver, like not holding that clutching and grabbing, They're going to call it every time. Because normally Chase is probably already gone to the officials. Now, you know they can't guard me one-on-one right. So they're going to play a little extra attention. He's so good in space.

You can put him outside the numbers. You can put him in the slot. You can put him in motion. He's tremendous run after the catch. He's not that big, but he runs behind his pads. So when you run behind your pads, you've got to tackle him. He's not going to go down with arm tackles or he's not afraid of contact.

So he'll run through contact. He reminds, he runs a lot because he's his side, that he's not as big as my brother, but he runs like my brother. He runs like Anquam Bolden. He runs like Tio. Now, they were bigger receivers. Tio is a much bigger receiver.

But if you see how they run, they run, like when they get the ball, it's almost like they're running back. Matter of fact, you know what? You know who's a great comparison of Jemar Chase when he has a ball in his hands? As far as running behind his past, that damn Steve Smith, who refused to go down. Yeah.

The exact same way, exact same. They're very strong. And because he has that running back pedigree that he played when he was younger, they so good would run out the catch. Same thing. Same with Steve Smith. They played angry with the ball. They ran angry with the ball.

And that was a hell of a game. That was a hell of a game. It was a great game. Both teams have to look. neither defense came to play outside of that outside of ocho outside of that one sack i didn't know i thought t j wott was hurt yeah obviously he had listen mem did a hell of a job he and he had help no offense with the chips chase brown with some of the chips you know before they went out before they went out in the in the past coverage so they did help him a little bit but in that fourth

quarter where t j wart and heywood were able to get that sack on flaco it was one-on-one it was one-on-one so that that's why he did he had he had help but outside of that they kept flacko clean all goddamn game man but you allowed to make other plays other than sacks he had one day he had he had a tackle yeah

his imprint has got to be on this game you know if you first of all a non-mobile quarterback if you don't disrupt his time and he'll pick you apart that's the same thing will happen with cousins if you don't if you don't put pressure on cousins what would happen we've seen it throw for 400 we've seen him throw for 500

the yards. Yeah. If you do, if you don't disrupt a mobile, a statue, a prototypical drop back quarterback. And that's what Flacco is. He's a prototypical 80s, 70s,

old school drop back quarterback, Ocho. Yeah. He wants to drop back. He wants to, when his back foot hit, he's going to let it go. He wants to let it go.

He's not a guy that wants to try to buy time and wait for guys to get open. That's not what he's good at. Right. He's a guy, one, two, three, ball's gone. One, two, three, four, five.

ball's gone. Now, most guys don't do a seven-step drop because most guys are in the shotgun so they'll take a, they'll take a three and a hitch and throw the ball, or four, or five in a hitch and throw the ball. But I was, I was surprised that Cincinnati's defense played like this because I don't think Cincinnati's

defense is very good, especially since their best pass, Russia Hendrickson was out tonight. That being said, Steelers, I thought the Steelers were better than this. I think they have the second most sacks coming into the game. I think they were 10 behind the Broncos the Broncos had 30 I think the Steelers had 20 yeah they got they got they got two

sacks and outside of those sacks flaco really didn't get pressure if you don't get pressure on a drop back quarterback with those weapons at his disposal at his disposal yeah what do you think is going to happen I just I just want to know what do you think is going to happen yeah you got the best receiver in the game and you got a guy that if you don't disrupt him he can pick you apart well that's what happened and then to exacerbate it, Ocho, you couldn't stop the run. So now you're at their mercy. You can't stop the run.

They run it at Will. I mean, Jalen Warren had, what Jaylon Warren had, excuse me, Chris Brown, 11 carries for a buck away. Chase Brown. P. Ryan had seven for 31. Mm-hmm. What if you can't stop it, and Flacco had 31 or 47, 3, 42, three tubs,

no turnovers. That was the difference in the ball game. I thought the Steelers look, I thought the Steelers would might be going to give a death blow. They had it fourth and one, Ocho. They jumped outside trying to do the tush push. They got the, hey, it's funny how y'all see the Steelers move, but y'all never see the damn Eagles move.

Settle for a field goal. Next thing you know, they come down the field, they get a touchdown, and now they've gotten life. Ocho, you look at, Ocho, what did you make of Aaron Rogers going off on Jalen Warren, who ran a flea flicker by accident? Lipp readers think Aaron Rogers shouted at him, what are you doing? It wasn't a flea flicker.

Yeah. Hey, he has to do that. He has to hold the players accountable. What you lost? You're your thing? I say, listen, Aaron has to hold the players accountable. Yes. Aaron Rogers understands that every play counts.

He has a standard that he has to buy by. He understands everything has to be right because we're in a close game. We need every play. Every play has to count. You can't make that mistake. You can't. you can't. And I'm not saying that that mistake cost them the game, but that's the play that they would have needed. I said Chris Brown. I meant Chase Brown. Chase Brown. Ocho, here's the thing,

Ocho. When you're in a game like this, every play matters because, okay, our defense is not customary tonight. Right. They're not getting off the field. They're not getting three and outs. They're driving the ball. They're getting points on these possessions. So every play becomes magnified. Yeah. And so you can't have a mishap like that. I'm trying to figure out what made them think it was a flea flicker. Now, I don't, that's, that's what, that's what, you know, lip readers think he was ordering. Right.

But I'm like, of all the things you could run, I've heard people, okay, I run the wrong ride, Ocho. I ran, I went the wrong way. Right. But damn, a flea flicker when no flea flicker was called? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm like, I'm like, damn. And listen, a little, little miscommunication. It happens the same way on defense, both teams had, had bused in the defense. the coverages. The Bengals had one. Hell, the Steelers had one. And just, listen, those plays make a difference. And there's only one, two, maybe three

plays in an entire game that changed the trajectory of the play. And the team that makes the few of the mistakes normally wins. And it just happened to be us tonight. True. Who they? Who they think they're going to be? You guys, like I said,

offensively, you guys are going to be able to put pressure on people. If you jump out to a lead. Now you can play. Like I said, I don't think your back in is very good, Ocho. Whoa, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. They made some big time plays. They made plays tonight. Yeah. The guy made a heck of a play. The one he took out of D.K. hands. Yeah, his name is D.J. Turner. Say it with me, DJ Turner. DJ Turner. Yeah. Yeah.

That being said, if you go look at the first interception, it was like, I don't know if Roger was trying to throw the seven route. Uh-huh. And he overshot the seven route. or he missed the, uh, uh, DK on the go route. Yeah. Because it was like in between, you know what I'm saying? Like the seven ran the angle and decay, but the ball was inside. Yeah. I don't, I don't know maybe the ball got away from Aaron.

Um, but this was like office. If you like offensive football locho, this was your game tonight. Beautiful game. This was your game tonight. I mean, seven combined touchdowns, uh, almost, almost 600 yards of passing yards, uh, only two sacks but the two turnovers like I said one of them Rogers it was a bad throw the other one you know the guy made a heck of a play uh Aaron Rogers passed big Ben Robertsburger for six most passing yards in NFL history is this just regular

season or this regular season and postseason okay uh Tom Brady's at the top at 89,000 214 Drew Brooke Drew Breeds is next 80,000 358 Peyton Manning is third, 71,0940. Brett Farb is fourth, 71,000, 838. And Aaron Rogers now is fifth all time with 64,089 yards with 11, yeah, 11 games to play. So there's a good chance that he's going to probably go, could he get 67,000? That's a possibility. Could you throw for three?

I don't know if he's going to throw for like that because, I mean, 23 or 34 for 249. So I think he'd probably be right there because I think it'd be a little about probably 66,000, 500, 66,000, 750, something like that. But how much longer does he want to play? Look, he's not catching Tom. He's not going to play longer to catch Tom. He would have to play another five years.

Yeah. You know, you know he's not retiring no time soon. He's in a perfect situation. He's in a perfect situation, and I'm not sure what would happen this year with them, but there's no reason why you would want to leave. You're in the perfect situation. Joe Flacco, I mean Joe Flacko, Aaron Rodgers is in the perfect situation. He is.

It's a great situation. You got a head coach that doesn't get in your way. I think he likes Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith going to run the football. He's going to give you a lot of different formation. He likes a lot of two tight-in stuff with Pryoramuth and Jano Smith, who he had, Dono Smith when he was in Tennessee. He did a great job as the OC for the Tennessee Titans.

You know, you have D.K. They might be in the market for another receiver. Austin was out tonight, Ocho. Right. So they might be in the market for another receiver. You know, we keep hearing rumbling that our receivers might be available. We'll see that November 4th deadline. Can I say something real quick?

Yeah. And listen, I'm not trying to bolster that that still is all. offense, but if anything continues to happen or things don't go well with number 11 over there. Yeah. Well, you definitely would want to get him out of the NFC. I'm not saying they're going to trade him. Hey. But you definitely, you definitely, it ain't been no situation where you're going to trade him

and you try to get him out of the conference. You definitely not trade him to anybody in the division. And of all things, I'm going to try to get him out of the conference. Now, if somebody in the conference blows me away, Ocho, I ain't got no choice. Right, right, right. You know, I don't, I don't want to sell you. Look, it's like my neighbor,

I don't want to say you the car because I don't want to come by and see my damn car every day in your drive, even though it's your car, you bought it. But if you make me an offer, I can't refuse, I'll drive right by it every day. Yeah, but I don't think they'll do that. But I'm just saying, making their offense better,

Aaron Rogers, D.K. Metcalf, A.J. Brown. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing out there because they've already been talking about trades. With there's smoke, there's fire. for sure but they're smoked those fires so the fact that it was even mentioned if things don't turn around for the Philadelphia Eagles even though they are winning

I think that I think that's something that could happen yeah Ocho I'm going to tell you something else I think it could happen I think what Matthew Stafford is okay you got Tom Brady at one Breeze at two manning at three far at four Rogers is nine at five Big Ben is at six

Philip Rivers is at seven Matt Ryan is at eight Matthew Stafford is at nine Dan retired when he left he had all the records most pasty yards, most attempts, most touchdowns. Matthew Stafford could be six by the end of the year. He's at 61,439. Big Ben has 64,088. I think there's a great chance when it's all said that he,

what year is this for Matt Ryan? Matt Ryan? I mean, I'm not Matt Stafford, Matthew Stafford. I don't think he can catch Brady, but I definitely think he can get the top. I think he can get the top. Year 17. I can see him play in another three years.

The money is too good for him not to. And not only is the money too good for him. And he's healthy. He's in a great system. You got Sean McVeigh. You got Pooker. You got Devonte. You got Higby.

Kyrie Williams can run the football. And they throw the ball like crazy over there too. Yeah. Throw the ball like crazy over there. Especially with Pug and Devonte, the way they're playing right now, he can definitely get it. And he's not, he's not. I definitely, I definitely think he's at 61,000.

I think he's going to have to stay healthy, play another three years. But I definitely think he can get in the top five. Yeah, absolutely. I definitely think he can get in the top five. Because he's going to be 64,000 by the end of the year, which will put him in six place. Now, I don't think he's going to throw for enough yards to pass Rogers because Rogers is at 64,000. So I'm going to put tackled another 2,500 to 2,800 for Rogers, which will put him at 6,000. 66,000.

Yeah. So he's not going to catch him this year. But when it's all said done, could I see him getting top five? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I'm so happy inside. Like, I want to jump.

I can tell you happy. Listen, I don't want to talk too loud. I don't want to scream too loud. I'm trying to keep it, you know, my voice a little low because I'm in the hotel. I don't want to, you know, have security knocking on my dough. But we have a great chance. We have a great chance offensively. Now, defense, we don't need to be top five.

I say this all the time. Please find a way to meet us halfway. Find a way to meet us halfway. Be maybe 16 or 15 or rank 17, somewhere around there and allow the offense to cook. Allow us to put up points. We score 30 tonight. If we can get back where we're going 30 points in game

and defense, you just show up. Just give us something. Give us a stop here or a stop there. We will be okay. On the broadcast tonight, Ocho, they said Joe Burrow is on track to return from Turf Toe in mid-December. The question is, can Flacco keep the bingoes afloat until he returns? Okay, they get the Jets at home, they get the Bears at home.

Yeah. Then they're at the Steelers, Patriots at home, at Ravens, at Bills, Ravens home at Dolphins. Hey, we could run the gauntlet. We could run the gauntlet. The only, the only game where it's going to be really good, I really can't tell you who's going to win when we play the Patriots. Boy, the Patriots, nice, huh?

Yeah. But the Patriots are nice. They're not shabble. The bills will be tough for you guys in in Buffalo. They'll be tough. Josh Allen. Yeah, that's another one. No, obviously the game where we have to play the Steelers again.

The question is, Ocho, before you go any further, is Lamar going to be back when he played these games? Even if Lamar is back, the backing is horrible. The defense is horrible. So he's going to have to match us offensively. And we've seen him do that last year, remember? Yeah. This is not last year.

year. This is a new year. Okay. Okay. Okay. This is how you talking? Do y'all see how he talking? Do y'all see how Ocho talking? You see he get real reckless. He gets real reckless in here, not.

With one game. I'm being nice. Now you're being nice. Yeah, this is one. This is one game, but look at how, look at them in the You know, Chicago, it's going to be no easy win now. Well, Chicago can't do nothing with us on defense. Oh, Chicago is going to be no easy win now.

Hold on. Stop. Hey. Hold on. Stay right there. Stay with me real quick. Chicago's defense cannot do anything with us offensively. They can't do nothing with us. And I mean that with all due respect. Now, like what Caleb Williams has done, I love the creativity of Ben John. Well, he owned a team. Huh? And they got some nice receivers. They got DJ Moore. They got Romer Dunes and they got Burton.

Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I know. But let's slim it down a little bit. Hey, it's about who they nation right now. Yeah, stop paying. Chat. Boy, he, boy, he on one tonight. Look at it. Hey, we got the jet. When we play the Jets? When we play the Jets? A week from Sunday, the 26th. Yeah, but we don't, listen, they're just going to be going to be on, oh, and y'all got, guess what? Y'all got them at home. Y'all got, y'all got three games in a row at home.

Matter of fact, I'm going to come back. I'm coming back that one, because I think I was a good luck charm tonight. I'm coming back next week. Oh, you're the good luck charm, huh? I was a good luck charm. I'm coming back next week. Yeah, but look, they got a very favorable schedule. Like you said, the Patriots is not going to be easy win. Lamarck is supposed to be back. Well, he'll definitely be back.

That's the 27th. That's a, that's a 520. So that got to be a Sunday game. That's a Sunday night game, 520. Yeah. Yes, sir. Who they, who they, who they think they're going to beat them Bengals? Who they, who they?

Oh, Joe, earlier today, Micah sounded off on how he's, how he's officiated and refs in general. Let's take a listen to what Micah had to say. You know, five years is not going to call you eventually to start worrying about it, you know, but, you know, I think, I just got to keep going. That's just, that's the hunt here. Like, that's part of the challenges. Like, you just got to keep going. And that's bothersome. That worries them.

They know that, like, that's the part of it. of being one of the best, you know, that comes with some territory where the parts that you hate and the parts that the lead let's go, like, they know, like, I mean, you can tell how they call the games. They don't call sides for offense, but they'll call it on defense. They won't call offensive passing the fans, but they'll call defensive pass and offense. I mean, like, we know what to try to do. They want to load the points up so fans can be happy. And, you know, I mean, they'll call defensive holding, but they won't call offensive holding, like, like, let's just just wake up.

Like, it's just one of those things that we know what the higher-ups is trying to do. Like, the referee says I know that's a hold, but what? Like, you're not going to call it? Like, come on. Like, it's just one of those things that, like, I'm over it. And I would just have to keep going to push through it. Ocho. He knows.

He's like, you know what? I should stop. I shouldn't say anymore. But he can't help himself. Yeah. Now, chat, you tell me the great defense. player, the great defensive player, if you're my age.

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The LTs, the Reggie Weiss, the Bruce Smith, The Derek Thomas, rest your soul, the Vaughn Miller's, the Aaron Donalds, the J.J. Watts. Tell me the great defensive player that you heard, have a microphone, get up on the platform, and complain that they're not getting calls. Yeah. You can't do that, huh?

You can't do that. As a player, I mean, I'm thinking about myself as a receiver. I ain't complaining about no hold on because I'm getting held. That's my fault. That's my fault. Michael Parsons is too good. he's too great at his position he's too great at what he does and obviously on the other thing on the other on the flip side of things referees are graded those referees want to be able to call that Super Bowl so the better playoff Super Bowl absolutely

listen that's a check that's money for them so they want to make as many calls as possible based on what they can see with the naked eye do they miss some calls of time of course it's human error it happens but they want to grade as high as possible so they can be in those playoff games so their team as a unit can be in the Super Bowl. They're graded. So they're not just missing calls on purpose, but also as a player, a player of your magnitude. Now, you shouldn't worry about that.

If you get in hell, that's on you. I don't think I ever, I don't think I've ever, and I could be wrong, but, and my memory is pretty good, I think I can have great recall. I don't think I've ever publicly complained. Man, they was holding the all game and they ain't called it.

They've been hauling me all year. I'm going to play through that. You call it, you call it. That ain't my job because, see, if I'm, because what's going to happen, I'm all of a sudden to start worried about the calls. They're going to throw the ball and go beat me up. Hit me all in the chest, all upside the head.

And then what? Then people are going to be like, was he holding on that one or did you just drop it? Right. Don't complain, bro. Michael, you're too good. Way too good. You're way too good for this.

And it's not, so guess what? Now, Ocho, I'm going to keep, Hey, I'm going to keep my pocket sold in my pocket now. I ain't fit to pull it out. Right. You're trying to put us on blast. Michael, you, Michael, you're too good. If you want to be thought of it's one of these greats.

I mean, let's just take your error. Miles Garrett ain't complaining. T.J. Watt ain't complaining. These guys ain't complaining. Michael, you're too good. Who cares about what they do it with the tush push? You're not there. When you have to defend it, then you worry about that.

You don't have to defend it. They don't listen, first of all, they're not listening to players. First of all, you're not a quarterback. They listen to nothing you got to say. They only listen to quarterbacks. That's why they changed the rules. That's why they let them have the balls. It used to you get one day now to get the balls for the whole week.

Now you can't hit the quarterback in the head. Now you can't hit the quarterback in the knees. You can't tackle them below the weights in the pocket. They listen to the quarterbacks. They don't listen to other players because they did. They wouldn't have the rules that they have. That's weighted against the defense. But come on, Michael, man.

You got to stop this, bro. Right. And the funny thing about it is the game now in this error is changed. It's handicapped. It's handicapped in the way in favor of the offense. Correct. You already know that as deep as a player. Just continue to play, play through contact, play through the holes.

Those calls are going to come. They're going to come. Don't even worry about it. Just continue to play as well as you always do. That's it. Play to what we know you can do. Being one of the best at your position. There's a reason why you paid as much as you are.

Oh, Joe, what you do is that you have your coat, you have your video department, cut it up, the holding calls, have your head coach to send it in. That's what you do. Hey, I'm going to take it out of my hands, but have the video department, that's what everybody else does. I guarantee that's what the Steelers does. That's what the Cleveland Browns does.

Anybody that has a pass rusher, this is what they do. Okay, if I got a good receiver, and I believe he's getting held. I'll cut it up and I'll send it to the official. Here are the plays that we believe he was held in this game. These are the plays that we believe the guy got outside. These are the plays. That's what you do.

Because people are going to look at you like you complaining. Like the reason why, because now I think he got one sack, maybe two sack, and people are like, oh, you're making $47 million a year and hit we're all six games in and you got one sack, you got two sacks? Yeah. It's going to look like you're complaining. And I don't think Mike as a complainer. I know he's frustrated because when you get that kind of big money,

Ocho, you know, you've gotten paid. The one thing you want to do, you want to go show the world why they paid you the big dollars. And I ain't tried to like, hey, the moment I get that money, oh, man, Ocho got paid. Yeah, let me go on out here and drop me about a $150 and two tubs of them. To let them know why they paid me. Hey, quick and they hurry and don't care who at there.

And don't care who holding. If I get here, it's my fault. I ain't doing something like. Yep. And that's how Mike is going to have to look at it. But I think the thing is that when you do it something like this, people are going to look at you as like, man, Michael whining. He's complaining.

The other, and the other team's like, hey, hold him. Make them call it. Make them call it. Yeah. And then all he's going to do is getting, he's going to get more and more frustrated. So just play through it, Michael. You're too good of a player to let stuff like this.

I get it. I know you're frustrated. First of all, I don't believe, Michael, I don't believe, this is why you, this is why you got to be careful with what you say. Because when things weren't going his way, where he said, he tweeted, he wanted to, he wanted to get traded. He put on X. He wanted to get traded. I no longer want to be a cowboy. He said, he said that, Ocho. A lot of times, we say it all the time, Ocho, with emotionless high, logic is low. Be careful. There's power in the tongue. Yeah. Yeah. He said he wants, that's not what he really wanted.

He wanted to put the pressure on the Cowboys. But you had already back Jerry in the corner. Jerry wasn't backing down. Right. Oh, absolutely. You had already, you already had back the man in the corner. He felt he had a handshake deal. And now you come in and this, I'm just telling you what Jerry felt.

Jerry is a man. First of all, you know how people empower, people in position of power, people to have money. Yeah. They ain't back and down. Hold on. You're not fin of bully. You're not going to bully. You're not many owners.

Not many owners. Absolutely not. No, no. So that's what, that's where they, that's, that's, that's what happened. But Micah, just keep playing. There come, you understand. Sacks are like, sacs are like bananas and grapes. They come in bunches.

Oh, yeah. Hey, you might go out, Joe, you might go a game or two and not get any. And then you'll go three games where you have six. Yep. And the next thing, you know, you're like, you look up like, damn, Michael got seven sex. Uh-huh, that fast. And that just had happened.

always happens like that yes it happens like that hell sometimes you're going to get you i go two for 35 i go full for 60 damn man man in one game man shoot 11 260 6 for 190 well god damn what God damn, what happened? There you go. And it happens. That's what I was, Joe. I bet you. Matter of fact, small example,

look at Chase. Two weeks ago, 40 yards. Yep. Look at the past two weeks. It's the nature of the business. It's the nature of the game. It always happens like that.

You're not going to go crazy every week, no matter how great you are. No, no, no, no, no, no. But they're going to, you know. I mean, but here's the thing, Chase, Chase crazy is 16. His, uh, his, uh, his good sense, he gets nine. That's the thing. You look at him against Green Bay, he had nine.

Like, damn, we slowed him down. Now he popped off with 16. He got 25 catches in two games. So where he was, you're like, man, hey, Chase ain't winning no triple crowd this year. Yeah. You sure about that? Yeah. You sure?

Hey, because he don't, the popped off again. It's amazing. It's amazing. what happens when you get a quarterback, 40 years old, 50 years old, if you can throw and sling the ball and they can keep you upright so you can deliver said ball, this is what you get. And it's not easy because we had Jake Browning.

No, but think, well, hell, he should be able to do it. No, now you take Joe Flacko, who got Benston Cleveland, and you put him here in the Bengals offense with elite talent around him at the receiver position, a decent running back, an officer line that everybody been talking trash about, and they play they play their part.

That's it. We are going to win. Everything starts up front. Everything. Look, do your job. Whatever your job is, whatever your job, whatever is required.

Yeah. You to do to do your job. That's what you got to do. Don't, I'm not worried, listen, I'm not worried about the offensive line because that ain't my job. Right. Now, when it comes my time,

I got a pass block. Now I got to worry about it. Okay, what we got? Am I Gilligan? I'm on an island? Where am I protected at? Sharpey, I got you inside so I can sit heavy outside knowing I got help inside. If I ain't got no help inside, I got to sit down inside and then hopefully I can

run his ass by the quarterback, the quarterback can step up. But you just got to do your job. I can't worry about it. I can't worry about what the safety doing and what the linebacker doing or what the DN doing, I got to worry about eight, what eight four doing. That's it. of the day, I'm getting graded. I'm getting graded on what I'm doing, not where they're not worried about what somebody else is doing. Yeah.

C.D. Lamb sat out the past three games with a high ankle spray. Today he said he could have played last week against the Panthers, but he sat another week so he could be fully healthy without limitations. He will not be on a pitch count against the commanders. I feel like I'm moving around, running around being me, happy as I can be. Obviously, just believing in my ankle. Obviously, I feel like it's back to where I needed to be. What did you think? Talk to me. I'm excited.

I'm excited. The fact that he said, in him knowing his body, I could have came back last week, but I want to wait one more week to make sure I don't have to worry about nothing. I don't have to worry about nothing. So for me, that makes that offense in Dallas even that much more scarier. And you know what's going to happen is, hell, Chase got how many targets you got tonight? Oh, man.

Chase had 18 targets. 18 targets. Now don't be smart. on show, he got his hands on all 18 of them. It wasn't like they was out of bounds and he didn't have no chance. He literally got his hand on all 18, which is people don't realize

how hard that is to have that many targets and to actually put your hands on all 18. Yeah, most definitely. I wouldn't be surprised if the getting back on track after missing three games, I won't be surprised if God damn CD have 15 targets next week.

I won't be surprised at all. I won't be surprised at all. at all. And listen, man, honestly, I told C. I hit him when he got her. I say, listen,

I can have you back in a week, what? I can have you back in a week. But he, he, well, looking at the severe, like when he did that,

looking at it, I said, man, that's three weeks. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely. Because, man,

that, hey, that thing. Ooh. Yeah. Oh, let me take that back. Chase had 23 targets, Ocho. 23?

23. 23 targets. I think the most I've ever had, Ocho, was like 15. Hey, I don't, I can't even tell you I don't think we track targets

like they do now. I don't think I'm just saying, you know, you go back and look at the films and, you know, they throw the ball over your head, that's a target. How do you throw the ball 15 feet on my damn head and out of bounds? That's a target. If you was a sniper

and I was your target and you shot like that, people go like, no, that wasn't a talk. You are off target. Yeah, and that's another thing I like about Flacco too is he makes every ball count. He makes every ball count because every ball he throws, he going to give you a chance to get it. Yeah. You're going to give you a chance to get it. I guess they count

targets when they throw the ball in his PI. So anything that comes your way. Yeah. They count that too. Okay. Okay. Okay. Because, man, Ocho, can you imagine what you could have done with 20 plus targets? Right. Man, they, it isn't impossible. I mean, I'm just thinking it, it, it, it, It would only be possible in this era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would only be possible in this era. I wonder, when T.O. When T.O. caught 20 passes.

I wonder how many targets he had. Yeah, remember Marshall has the record. He has 21. Yeah, Brandon, yeah. So if you catch 20 balls, O'Kill, you got to have, you got at least 23, 24, maybe even 25 targets. Hey, matter of fact, you know how many yards I would have.

You got to think, I average maybe six yards a game. Six, maybe seven catches a game. If that, but mine were all No, you ain't aren't that many catch. Could you ever have a hundred catch season? No, hell not. Because that's what I'm saying. So if you average six catches, six catches a game, in 16 games, that's 96 catches.

What's the most catcher you had in the season? About right there, about 96. Okay. But I was a yardage monster because everything I caught was 10, 15. Yeah, that's how I was, oh, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I have 1100 yards and three touchdown, and then somebody else got 400 yards and they got six. I'm like, man, throw me something.

But we got close to the goal line. TD, he's going to run that end. We're not throwing no ball unless it's third and something. But other than that, man, they get that thing, TD running that end. It's amazing, man, just the era, the era of football that we're in now, and they throw the ball so much, damn, I can only wish. Ocho, Dak Prescott said he plans to speak with Jared Jones about the importance of keeping George Pickens

with the Cowboys beyond this season. I've been a little busy, but I will. When I run into him in that time of privacy, I'll make sure. But here's the thing, though, Jack, running in, okay, you want to keep him. Are you willing to take less than your 60 meals? Because, okay, you got 60.

George Pickens is going to want max dollars. He's like, because this is his first bite in the apple, he's going to say, Dak, you've had three bites the apple. I've never had a big bite of the apple. And I'm going to take as big a bite as I possible. As a matter of fact, I might be a horse. I might eat the whole damn apple. Damn a bite. I want the whole damn apple.

So that's the question. You know, you want all these great players. That's what Brady did. You see what Mahomes is doing. The question is, are you willing to take a little haircut? I'm not saying you got to give them 20 million, but I'm saying, are you willing to take

say, if you can get 63, 64 million, are you willing to take 50 57 so George Pickens can get his 30 because he's going to want somewhere between 32 and 36 million dollars that's what George Pickens's going to want because he's see what DK got he see what he see what Terry McLaurin got and I guarantee you George Pickens believe he's

every bit as good as DK Metcalf and Terry McLaur he is he is and I'm not sure that is depending depending I'm not sure that has already got his money already No, well, he, he, uh, that got one more year on that contract or did he up? But I think he had a monster cap number. I think he got like something like 80 million in cap.

Yeah, deck then got paid. I, I don't, I don't, I don't see him doing that. I, I would like, I would like him to allow, to allow pick, go get it. What's his cap number next year, that? Oh, yeah, they got to do something with that. His cap period is 74 million, oh, Joe? you got to redo that deal damn you got to redo that

in 68 what you think oh bro you got to do oh you definitely they definitely they're definitely going to redo that deal they're not been to let that man play what but what do you think though do you think that will take less to be able to keep pick

that's what that's what jerry's going to ask you you mean that going to ask jerry I'm excuse me, yes, that's what Jerry's going to ask that. Are you willing to take less so we can ensure we can put better players around you? If Patrick Mahomes doesn't do what he does, you're not able to keep Chris Jones. Right. You're not able to keep the Travis Kelsey and keep it together, Califters. Hey, they're going to have to do something with Trent McDuffie.

Oh, hey, Trent, nice on. Yes. So you're able to keep all these pieces together. because you got Creed Humphrey on a big deal. You got your right tackle. Now, you hit it out of the part because your left side looks really good. The left tackle Simmons,

even the guy that came, the backup, did an extremely great job the other night. Uh-huh. But you have to, you have to, uh, you got to give up something, Ocho. It's really, it's really that simple. Now, the question is when we had,

Growing up financially, we struggle. My grandma said, boy, what's going to be this month? The phone, the light, or the gas? One or the other. I can't pay them all, son. I mean, it's really that simple. Hey, you need the phone in case we got to call somebody. The lights so you could do your homework.

Yeah. Or you and your brother are going to have to go down there and chop wood. We pull that, we pull that heat away from the fireplace. Hey. And we go. cut down a tree we paid it's really that simple yeah that what you want you want to be the highest paid quarterback or you want to be sixth or seven and have have talent around you to help you because guess what ocho you need some defensive help too oh yeah absolutely absolutely but i think

me honestly allow a pick to go get his thing allow a loud pick to go get what he's deserving of and I don't think Jerry is going to open up his pocketbook like that and cut the check that he's deserving of getting. Oh, his agent is the same guy that represented Michael Parsons. Oh, yeah. David Mulagata. Yeah, we're going to let Pit gone.

We need to go and get his money over there in Las Vegas. Over there in Las Vegas. They'll pay. Now, the question is, you know, Ocho, normally when you go in free agency, everybody don't have the luxury like A.J. Brown. AJ went from Tennessee

to Philly. So a team that was perennial in the playoffs, you know, he went there. Normally in free agency to go get big bucks, you generally have to go somewhere at Ocho that's they ain't on to come. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

But the question is, Ocho, the question? Again. Mm-hmm. Hmm. 35, 36 million. Probably 75, 80 million guaranteed. I see you in Vegas. Hey, I see you in Vegas.

Everybody didn't got there. This is my turn. But this is what I do, Ocho. I'm hoping they don't do this. Tag him. No, come on. No, no, no.

I just, Ocho, I just got, I've tried to prepare. you for everything because I already know you're going to flip out. So I'm just going to prepare you. What's the day day? The day is the 16th, Thursday to 16. I'm just preparing you for that Ocho. Hey, listen, I hear you understand you preparing, but let's not play that game. Let's not play that game because if you tag me lets me know you don't value me. You don't think I'm worth what I can get on the open market. Don't tag me. Don't do that. That's what I, I'm a firm believe in that, Ocho. Hold on. Let's see what I'm worth. You don't think I'm worth. You don't think I'm worth.

I'm asking for, let me go. And, you know, and Jerry has had that conversation with a lot of players. Here, we're going to let you explore the open market and come back and tell us what they think of you. There are a few times when you let a guy because the team going to overbid for them because they already know what I've got to do.

Now, first of all, it might be a little easier because it's going to be harder for them, Dallas, if they let him test the open market, it's going to be harder because Pick doesn't have an attachment to dollars. He's only there for a year.

So he might be viewing it as a rental, Ocho. Hey, I'm standing this rental property. I'm gonna get me a house. They got these, they got these apartments that's already furnished. Yeah. Hey, listen. So he's not entrenched in the community.

He hasn't been there for four or five years. I don't know if he's married or have a fiancee or girlfriend or whatever the case may be, but he doesn't, I don't know if he has that there. I don't know if he has kids there. So he's not entrenched like, like somebody that's been there six or seven years. So it's easier.

It's a lease with an option to buy. It's a lease with an option to buy. And I prefer you're in that lease and going somewhere where you can get what you deserve, like every other receiver at your position has. Everybody has got to us. Oh, yeah, for sure. And you deserve to be paid like a number one.

Now, the Cowboys already have a number of receiver. and the one thing that they're going to say upstairs over there in Jerry's world is well we already paid CD Lamb extra amount of dollars we don't view you as such because we already have a number one we already have a number one

you already know the game they're going to play but it would be hard Ocho because of what they gave it wasn't they give for a third round pick for a pick or fourth to get to give that up for him and just basically keep him as a rental for a year so that's why I think

Jerry might be more apt to sign him. Jerry loves offense. So if a player was to get some money, they gave a third and the fifth. And that's the next year's draft because they traded for him after the draft. So he gave him for third on the fifth in 2026. Okay.

Then you have to think it all comes to deck as well. What is that willing to do? How much less? is that's the thing not to take so they can sign pick and then defense you need defense of players you do need some of the question is ocho if you go on fringe that you know you got to overpay do you believe you can hit it in the do you believe you can hit it in the draft market you believe you can draft the guy or you got you got two first rounders you're not from the draft no but who you're going to draft they're going to make a make a difference you need a statement

piece on that defense listen when you put you clothes on, when you put your clothes on, this is everybody in the chat. When you put your clothes on, I know, I know some women in there, I know some fellas in here, too. When you put your clothes on, you got to have one thing that stands out, that's a statement piece. Yeah. Because now that's Cowboys' Defense, needs a statement

piece. I don't know, it could be a detackle. It could be a corner. It could be a safety. But you got, you need it. Your statement piece gone over there at a green... I don't know about you, when I put my clothes on, I'm the statement. Yeah, I mean, between me and you, I just, I feel. I

I'm saying. Yes, I got nice jewelry. I got accessible. Right, right, right. But it got to be a statement piece. Listen, when a woman, when a woman gets dressed, right? Yes. When a woman gets dressed, there are two things that make that, that for her, that is the statement piece is either your bag or your heels, one or the other. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

One of the other. What you're wearing doesn't matter. You're right, Ocho, you ain't wrong when you're right. Yeah, talk to me, nah. I'm just saying, I can't talk to it like I want to, 26. I'm gonna talk to you in 26. Right now, more probation. I'm still on probation on show.

26, y'all, up back, up back. Hey, my probation officer, he'd be checking in. He'd be watching this show. Okay, okay, every time to time, he's like, okay, you know, I'm gonna have to write you up. Yeah, okay, you're good, you're good. You good. Yeah, but 26, you know, I had to do, you know,

I got to do, I had to do like 12 months. Right, 12? Yeah, I had to do 12 months probation. All right. Well, how long we got, what? Two months, we got, we're in October? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Prided round, probably like April, May, 206. I'm out like a scout, I'm out like a scout on a new route. But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You ain't gotta wait that long though. You know why you ain't gotta wait that long? Why we gotta wait a long? Listen, when that ball drop on New Year's? Ball drop.

When the ball drop, you're good to go. You know what they say? Hey, what they say? Hey, what they said? Oh, listen, they lend you off a good time serve. A good time? Yeah, when you behave. They say, they say they'll give me three days.

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