Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Pistons EVEN SERIES vs Magic + Lakers GET UPDATES on Luka & Reaves
Episode Date: April 23, 2026Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Detroit Pistons beating the Orlando Magic to even up the series 1-1, Shams updates us on Luka Doncic and Austin Re...aves injury, and the Lakers beat the Rockets to go up 2-0 in the series and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP 03:00 - Pistons even series with Magic39:30 - Updates on Luka and Austin Reaves (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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But first, the Detroit Pistons even the series up with the Orlando Magic 93, 9888 in game two.
The Pistons had lost 11 straight home games in the postseason, the drought that started back in 2008.
Game three will be in Orlando on Saturday.
Joe, I mean, the game was 46, 45 at the half.
Joe, I turned the thing back on.
And that damn, I was like, hold on, what the hell happened?
At one point, they had outscored Orlando 30 to three in the third quarter.
Joe, how was the Pistons able to turn this thing around, even the series up?
I think the Pistons were definitely just more desperate.
okay Ocho, knowing and understanding that, man, listen, game two, this is a must-win situation
for us. We can't go to Orlando down O2 thinking we're going to win on their home floor.
So I think, you know, they got their morale back.
I thought they came out and made a huge emphasis on defense just to be physical, obviously,
and just play a lot harder.
I thought, you know, I thought they took Wendell caught out the game, okay, Ocho, to where, you know,
offensively, you know, last game, what he had, about 19.
20 points.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, I think the biggest
factor is, man, K has got to continue
to be...
Ultra-aggressive.
Ultra-aggressive.
Make plays not only for himself,
but for them guys around him.
And he got to be...
If he'll fish it,
then their wins will look like this
because they're a great defensive team.
It don't surprise me that they held Orlando
to 83 points.
Mm-hmm.
On 33% shooting from the floor,
25% from the 3.
Out rebounding them,
their plus...
Plus 15, excuse me,
in the rebounding aspect.
Go ahead, Ocho, you want to say something.
Now, I was going to say it was a collective effort on their behalf, on the pissings.
Obviously, Kay Cunningham doing exactly what he's supposed to do, obviously leading that squad.
But going down O2, you don't want to have to dig yourself out that kind of hole, Joe, and make it that more difficult.
So they knew they had to even this goddamn series out.
And not only that, it was a collective effort from everybody.
God damn Tobias had 16.
Roberts had 10.
You got 11 from during.
She had Cunningham did what he did with 27 and goddamn Thompson had 11.
So everybody, including, you know, he had Stewart coming out of the bench, you know, he had 10.
He has some other people contribute a little bit as well.
But listen, they got to play like this.
They got to play like this the rest of the series or, hell, it could be a goddamn upset.
Yeah.
Yeah, it could be an upset, Ocho.
I mean, obviously, you know, Detroit hadn't really been tested.
So we don't really know if they're a championship caliber team yet.
We just know they're number one in the Eastern Conference.
You know what I mean?
So now, if they are a championship caliber team, now they got to show it because you got to go out of the road and you got to go get you one.
You know what I mean?
So we'll see if them guys can step up, step up to the challenge and obviously still one in Orlando.
Yeah, the difference between playoff basketball or regular season basketball, and we see that a lot.
There's a difference.
And there's a difference between regular season and postseason than anything.
Be it football, basketball, baseball, hockey, whatever, whatever team sport is.
If you have a postseason, there's a difference, the intensity level.
There's greater expectations, especially on higher seeds because you got that higher seed by playing good basketball during the season.
Now all of a sudden, when it matters the most, when we need to get stops, when we need to be efficient in clutch situations, we don't get that done.
So anybody that says they don't, oh, you know, you absolutely know what it is.
And Detroit knows they basically had the best record in the Eastern Conference, damn there from start to finish.
Even when Kate went out, they still found ways to win.
And now they find themselves in a series one, one with Orlando.
Now, they're going to need to do a better job.
They did a great job on the glass tonight, Joe.
They have plus 15 Detroit was over Orlando.
They're going to need to do a better.
They're going to have to shoot the three.
Now, I don't necessarily think they're a great three-point shooting team.
They can get streaky like most teams can, but some teams are better.
The Boston series is a good three-point shooting team.
Detroit's not.
They're not better knock down some of these damn free throws.
Yeah, yeah.
They got to shoot better from the three.
Not only that, I think they hanged their hat on their defense.
You know what I mean?
Like they pride themselves defensively.
It ain't too many times they're going to get out rebounding.
No.
With Duren and Big Boy and Stewart down there.
It ain't many times that they're going to get out rebounding.
So, you know, they come with a tough mindset, hard hat, you know, outwork you and do whatever it takes to win the game.
Now you just hope your stars step up.
Obviously, Cade has been consistent.
but man, if you can get some consistent
productivity from Tobias Harris.
I'm talking about consistent.
I'm saying it ain't got to be about 15,
20 points a night.
But can we get that consistently?
Then I think that would definitely help
because they're asking too much for during.
You know, oh, man, he need to give us 25.
That ain't his game, bro.
That ain't his game.
Can we ask to give him, give us what you gave us
in the regular season?
Is that asking too much, Joe?
I don't think it's asking too much,
But here's the problem.
In a playoff series, bro, we're going to try to expose you.
We got to, we're going to have to play during tough.
We can't give him nothing easy.
See, he's known for getting them putbacks to just being kind of like a junkyard dog type of player
to where he kind of, you know, feed off miss shots.
But it's tough, man.
Hey, Orlando got some big bodies that they can throw at him, and it's been giving him some problems.
You know what I mean?
He hadn't been as effective as he's been, you know, in the regular season.
but I expect this play to continue to get better too.
Joe, if he continues to play like this, they're going home.
If Jalen Dern does not pick up that play, they're going home.
You can't have a situation, Joe, your two best player.
One of your players is playing like he's supposed to play.
Kay Cunningham has elevated his game.
39 in the first game, 27.
Jalen Durdon has not, he wasn't.
There's a pretend, Joe.
He's going to be an all-N-B-A player.
He made the all-star teams.
And he giving us, no, no, look, the playoffs is about elevating.
It's not about decreasing.
I don't give it down what you do.
Yes, oh, yes.
I understand that.
But see, that's, see what you said, Joe?
You said, hey, let's make it tough on them.
That's how you make your name.
That's how you become legendary.
That's how you become iconic because you know, they know what you represent.
And they're going to do what they can to stop it.
And guess what?
You still go that damn.
You can't.
Pause.
Yeah.
But you're right.
That's what the greatest do.
You already, you know what we're running.
We know what you're running.
Still, I don't care.
You can't stop it.
But I think, I think we kind of got to give him a little slack on it.
He's just not an offensive guy like that.
He's just been a hardworking dude who's put up some great numbers doing the regular season.
But in the postseason, oh, I'm downed in on him.
I see his stress.
I see his weaknesses.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to make him use it.
You feel what I'm saying?
And I feel like with them just throwing him.
in the ball trying to say, hey, man, go get us a bucket.
That ain't his game, man.
That ain't.
Guess what?
I want you to be that same hardworking guy in the postseason that you were in the regular
season.
Because guess what?
You know what's coming his way, don't you?
Joe, you know that max contract coming, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it ain't going to be.
Hey, hey, the one thing about Orlando, they bigs, they fight, bro.
They ain't going to be easy.
If you post to be that guy, you're going to have to show us you that guy.
For sure.
Yeah.
And that's the way you, that's the way you, but you got to want to take it like,
you know what, man, they really count on me.
Because you know Detroit,
ever since the bad boys,
what are they known for?
You ain't fin to out scrap us,
and if we got a squabble,
we go squabble.
But you're not fend out work because you're not going to be out tough for us.
It started with Isaiah,
and then when they started bringing in Lambert,
and they got Mahorn,
and they got James Edwards,
and they got Sal,
a Dumars,
bro.
Then they got worm.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, that's how they've always been.
Fast forward to Bassboard Pistons, too,
when they had big Ben, shee, Chaunce, Rip,
Tayshan, Rip.
This is always who they've been.
And now the third edition, the third installment, the trilogy,
even though Stu come off the bench, he brings that toughness.
Kay plays tough.
Those guys, this is what you in Detroit.
It's kind of like if you play for the Steelers,
you play for the Ravens, you already know.
You got to get some mindset.
But you don't walk in there.
Oh, man.
Nah, no, no, no.
Ain't no finesse football.
No.
Yeah, no.
Detroit Pistons, they can't play finesse.
You got to be physical.
This is who y'all are.
Y'all ain't got no free.
Y'all don't, hey, y'all not,
y'all not go to state at their heyday.
Y'all ain't pretty.
I am.
Y'all dump trucks.
Y'all pickup trucks.
Gritty and grimy.
Yeah, that's how they got to play.
I thought today, you know, they play like it, but on another note,
I thought Orlando kind of, they look satisfied to me on.
I saw that.
I saw that.
And I'm watching Orlando, I'm like, they ain't really come with their same oomph they had in game one.
It's kind of like, you know, it seemed like they were kind of satisfied that we won in
one one game now.
We'll see what they do in game three.
But I'm going to be honest with y'all.
I expect the pistons to obviously come back and take control of this series.
Yeah.
You know what?
I thought they,
I thought they were really, really engaged in the first half.
If you look at them the way they played the first half, Joe,
especially the second quarter,
I thought I said, damn,
I said,
Detroit, y'all better be on your best behavior, man,
because these boys look at it.
They're greedy.
It looks like they're trying to get sweetened things.
They ain't trying to split the part.
They're trying to take it all.
And I've been, damn,
they come out there.
The next thing I know, a 30 to three.
It really, it really blew the game open from that point on.
Yeah.
Damn.
Orlando ain't getting no contribution from their bench.
No.
I like how, you know, Sugs is being aggressive,
but I want once again,
Arangoa Ocho, when I'm watching Orlando Magic, man,
I'm watching Pollo Ben Carroll.
I don't want him out there doing all that dribbling,
Arcan Ocho.
I'm sorry, bro.
I'm talking about Frito lining in is where he should be.
I'm talking about it shouldn't be a person on the Pistons team
who could guard him, bro.
He give us flashes because he showed us in game one he could do it.
Yeah.
And I just think he got back today handling the ball, having a little man set to pick and roll.
Man, hey, look, that's part of being great, doing it night in and night out,
doing it over and over and over again.
So he got to learn to, you know, stick with his bread and butter
because them dudes can't guard him in mid-post, man.
No, everybody, nobody shot the ball great tonight.
And, you know, Black normally gives him great production off the bench.
Carter didn't play a whole lot.
Badazzi.
He played 20.
He didn't really give him anything.
You're right, Joe.
They didn't get anything.
But, you know, it was a game that I don't even know
if they were really trying to give them anything
because that airpoint time, the game was a blowout.
Right, right.
But Wendell Carter, Jr., you got to give him more than three points.
You got to give him more than three, bro.
Yeah.
That's unacceptable.
The final's 29 and 24 minutes.
Mm-mm.
Hey, look.
But look, considering what they've done to the Hornets for their last playing spot,
I think they're going to play pretty good at home.
Orlando, I think they're going to be a totally different team.
So I think typically Ben Carroll are going to play better.
Even though I don't think he played bad, but I think he'll play a lot better.
You'll get more from Windale Carter.
I think these bench guys like Black, I think these guys,
they'll be a lot more calmer and ready, you know, in game three being at home.
They jettisoned the other big Orlando did, Isaacs.
Him and the coach had a falling out or something.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember that.
But I like, I think Mosley, isn't that their coach name?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll back down.
No, he'll back down.
No, he was trying to take a few shots in the media.
He's like, hey, he's right back at it.
Yeah, hey, you gotta be, hey, you gotta be like that, man.
You can't be nervous to challenge your guys.
If you want to be great, you got to be what you got to want to be challenged.
There you go. Despite however they may feel, you can't be, you know, timid on challenging
them guys because I think more than anything, you'll gain more respect for me, you know,
than anything.
Go ahead, Joe.
I say you almost hope they respond the right way.
You almost hope they respond the right way because most of them don't, don't take kind
to being challenged because they're sensitive.
They don't see it as a challenge.
They take it as something else.
As long as they understand, I'm sure they have conversation behind closed doors and coaches letting them know, you know, there's certain things that you can't say because I also got to protect myself.
Because some of the things you say, it reflects me who I am as a coach.
Yeah.
Or I have no choice but to say something back.
But there's nothing direct towards you, nothing personal, but I got to challenge you to be better.
Yeah.
I think, and even if you don't gain said players respect, you gain his teammates respect because there.
There you go.
Yeah.
Sometimes you can lose a locker room
because how you treat.
They see that, man, hold on.
All you do is get on us.
We late.
He late, you get on us.
He blow a devious of assignment.
You mad at me.
Yeah.
You lose the locker room.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Say something to him.
He might not, hey, he might do everything he can
to probably potentially get you up out of there.
But at least you got to gain the inspector of the locker room.
Because if you, hey,
what good is, hey, you let him do everything
and then you ain't got the locker room.
You're going to be out of there quicker than that anyway.
Yeah.
And so that's the thing.
And you grab the right.
Guys don't get it.
Guys don't want to be challenged because when you're great at a young age,
you kind of get coddled because you're great.
And coaches don't want you to take your ball and go home.
Yeah.
Because it's like the NIL program now.
Guess what?
You challenge a guy.
Now he just goes somewhere else.
He gone in the portal.
I'm a hollered.
You're going to yell at me.
You haven't been to coach.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think the most important thing as a coach,
okay, Ocho, and both of y'all know this,
you have to know your players who you deal with.
You have to know how they'll respond under certain circumstances.
So it may be the heat of the game.
Coach may I already know he can jump down.
You know what I'm saying?
He can jump on me at game.
You know what I'm saying?
And if he can jump on your best player,
in front of everybody, it does weigh heavy because now all these other dudes around,
when he do jump on them, they fall right in line.
Right.
So I think as a coach, you got the toughest job,
especially when they come in the NBA.
I'm sure the same thing in the NFL,
because you have to know how to deal with different personalities on the day-to-day.
And that's the hardest thing.
I'm going to treat you all the time.
I'm going to treat you all fair, but I ain't going to treat you the same now.
Some guys you can ride like Joe said.
Some guys, you've got to pat them on the back.
Even when they're, hey, some guys you can be facetious with.
Damn, son.
My wife could have made that play.
Some guys you got to be facetious with.
Some guys you can ride.
You just have to know what buttons to push to get what doors to open.
Yeah, yeah.
That is the biggest thing, boy, coach, is to understand your players.
I'm telling you, you try to do everybody the same.
Okay.
Yeah.
Think about it.
Okay.
I don't know what you're on.
The coach of the player, because I've seen it.
I seen them square up.
I seen them square up.
They ain't throw no blow.
Hold on.
Joe, hold on, Joe.
You seen who square up?
A coach and a player?
Yeah, yeah, a coach of the player.
Hold on.
In the NBA?
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, listen, without saying no names, can I get that story?
Don't say no names.
Uh, uh, it was my first year here in Atlanta.
I'm making like that.
Okay, okay.
It was my first year here in Atlanta,
Argy Otro.
Now, mind you, they just came off winning nine games the season before.
So the environment, you know, wasn't, you know.
It was shaky.
It wasn't the best.
You feel what I'm saying?
So it's probably already tension built up from last season.
Right.
It just kind of carried over.
And this was like early in the season.
Like I say, we started off here, three and 29 here.
Boy, wait.
It was almost spicy in here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey.
Hey.
Ask PJ Carp and Lusselmoke,
and you coach everybody the same.
Hey, hold up, though.
X, Phil Jackson.
Look how he had to coach the Warren.
Knowing that man were going to get out of line,
then it's right.
And George, let me, let me deal with him.
Hey, you got,
go ahead, Joe.
You got some players
because you know, bro,
you know,
especially the ones that's great.
It's certain stuff you're going to have to deal
with and you're going to have to try,
I minimize, you know, the punishment to some degree.
Because if Dennis Rodman was doing that and he wasn't who he was,
like he'd be out to leave.
Production and tolerance.
As long as production over your show is tolerance.
Yeah, yeah.
Tolerance will never be higher than production.
I don't care.
We talk about in professional sports, in job, regular job.
Yeah.
Look at the guy that's producing.
Hey, his quota or her quota is through the roof.
They come late.
They're eating at the dance.
not have the right of time.
Now you,
you show up on time.
You do everything right,
but your quote ain't where it needs to be.
The first time you get ridden up and you got to go.
First time they call your ass down to HR,
you up out of there.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I ain't.
You got to be careful about you talk to people
because everybody don't respond to the same stimuli.
So that yelling and screaming,
that's a trigger for somebody and they tear your ass up.
Yeah, you're right.
But a trigger from, from some, uh, some trauma that happened early in life.
You never know.
That's what I was, uh, Ocho and I, we had a conversation kind of like our first year, uh, Joe.
And that's like, when you date somebody, you're not just dating that person.
You're dating the trauma that they dealt with before you got there.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what you're dealing with.
You don't know.
You don't know.
Same thing.
You go.
you go to the pound, you get you a, like, oh, this is a gorgeous dog,
but you don't know what led that dog to be there.
Now, you might do something that if previous owner did and trigger it,
and you'll get why he ended up where he, it ended up where it was.
Same thing when a relationship.
You might say something someone has said in their past.
Here's or her, I just don't want you.
I'm just not women because I know how y'all are.
Oh, you just, it's just, no, you might say.
something, he or she might say something might trigger him or her from a previous situation
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Me, I was a guy.
I didn't do well to you.
yelling because I got yelled at a lot when I was younger.
So I was just like, man, I can't wait to get grown.
I don't like being yelling.
Tell me what I need to do.
Yeah.
And I'm gonna do everything I possibly can to do it right.
That yelling, I'm gonna give you a look first.
Oh, I'll be gonna get your look first.
Yeah.
You hear me son?
You about to feel me.
I don't do well with that, Joe.
Just tell me, hey.
Hey, listen.
Make it seem like I'm trying to mess it up.
Right, right.
Hey, hey, tell me something.
Did you raise your kids like that?
You know what?
I mean, you had times you may yell at them,
but I'm like, I'm going to be honest with you.
I ain't, you know, I ain't none of my kids had their ass.
Oh, no, no, no.
You feel what I'm saying?
But just by me raising my voice,
there'd be enough for some tears to come down.
You feel what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Went to the movies.
Me and my girl, we're going to see one movie.
They're going to see another movie.
What you want?
You know how kids are.
Everybody, big slushy,
on popcorn,
on candy.
I said, okay.
The movie, they're going to be close in time.
I said, don't get you,
don't y'all leave this movie.
Y'all let me come back in here and get you.
Okay, Dave, okay.
Our movies end.
I think I was ending,
it might have been like, probably like two or three minutes after theirs.
I'm gonna go get them.
Cause I was down the hall.
We had film Joe, the movie we down the hall on the left.
They like in the front.
I see them looking.
I hear them.
I see them.
I see them and I hear them talking.
I think they went to see this movie right here.
I said, where y'all going?
I didn't want it.
It was he.
I didn't want to lead them.
Don't worry about it.
I got something funny when you get home.
So we got home.
Everybody tried to put it on everybody.
I said, why you just didn't stay?
Well, I didn't want to, I said, I appreciate that.
I appreciate y'all sticking together.
But you should have stuck your ass together in the movie where I told you to be.
Yeah.
I told their ass up.
Now, I said, now, listen, I'm going to work out.
Don't y'all leave?
Don't you all leave any rooms?
I said, if the house on.
on fire and the fireman come get you say hell no get out shut their ass out the
eye say my daddy said don't leave this room oh hey that's a good one bad please because
you don't you don't know you know listen with the kids I look look I'm very particular
and I don't want nobody because I don't want to have to hurt somebody behind my kids
because I will yeah but from and this was really the first
time they've ever done this.
I used to take the kids to the mall and white people would ask me,
how do you get them to do that?
I'm like, I thought they were doing tricks
or turning back flips or something.
I said, do what, ma'am?
She was like, they're so well-mannered.
They're not running off in front of you.
They're not yelling and screaming.
Oh, you must have got me confused with you.
I don't play that.
I wish y'all would be running around these people,
mall people looking at me like I'm a damn fool.
Yeah.
First day they're going to say, man, I saw Shannon Sharp, boy, his kids are
a mess.
They were running all through them all.
No, sir.
Y'all are anything to go on the store and be all that, no, sir.
Yeah.
See, hey, hey, Joe, I don't know about you, aunt.
You know, I don't really have no problem, especially having as many as I have.
Obviously, everybody, everybody grown now, Uncle, except three.
I'm talking about, you know, 28, 27, 22.
I mean, everybody grown now, but I'm trying to think of some time when they were little.
but their mother's rule with such an eye and fist,
when they are with me, I never have no problems.
And I try to get them to understand is,
when you're with me, it's okay to be free.
You out that prison you got to give with you at home.
I'm a little bit more lenient.
I'm not the one that does a discipline, unless necessary.
I had one encounter.
Only one encounter that I can remember.
I swear for God.
It was with my son.
And we, you know, we all in the back of the car.
And I told him, y'all stop playing around.
and put your seat belts on.
And here he go.
He then jumped out of the seat and I had hit the break
and he went flying and flew past me
and almost hit his head on the dashboard.
Boy, I turned around and grabbed that collar
and said, man, if you don't, and I lost it a little bit.
Now, obviously I had to apologize.
I had to apologize later because that's the first time
they ever seen me get out of character.
Yeah.
And now it was the only time.
I ain't had a problem since.
he had a sophomore in high school now
I ain't had no problem since then
I think the thing is guys
what I had to learn
Ocho is that they were getting away with stuff
I let them get away with stuff
because I wasn't there every day
and they started to take advantage of that
so I had to put my foot down
so I put my foot down I said okay
now what you do at your mom's house
as long as you're not disrespectful
your mom called me and say
well you said this or you said that
I'm gonna fly that I'm gonna tell your ass up
If your mom want you to let you jump on the bed,
let you run on the couch, put your feet on the dinner table,
that ain't got nothing to do it.
I don't run your mom household.
But when you hear, yeah, I wish I would catch y'all jumping
on the bed.
I wish I would catch you walking on the couch.
I wish I would.
Oh, all that said, you know how women like to sit
with their feet crossed up and on the couch,
your damn feet go on the floor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sitting up on, you know, sitting up on the counter.
Boy, I will eat my food there.
You got your ass up on that counter.
Boy, you would get your girl.
You would get your ass off that counter.
Hey, hey.
It's like my, it's like my grandpa.
When we would love it, he would never let us sit in his bed.
He said, y'all make my bed hot, make my sheets hot.
When I go to his bed.
Hey, hey, hey, Joe, y'all knew it was a suss thing.
There's etiquette school.
Yeah, I know for etiquette school.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Man, had the, had a nerd that hit me
talking about French fry
and to go to etiquette school all the way in France.
Man, if you don't get,
if you don't get off my phone and stop playing with me,
not playing them.
Don't, don't play with me.
I think maybe it was just to get a reaction,
you know, just to see what I'm going to say.
Yeah.
You got it.
I don't know what you were trying to get,
but I don't know your cheap ass.
Yeah, man, Edictonc's,
we'll watch you.
Don't worry about it.
We're learning about etiquette on YouTube.
But a lot of that,
because that's how it was with us.
And see, people thought I was lying.
When I said that at the dinner table,
we didn't talk and people ask why you eat so fast?
Because I wanted to be able to talk.
You could talk at the dinner table.
Marty Mary wasn't playing that.
It wasn't no, hey, you know,
because we only had one TV, not a kitchen.
I mean, you could slide back from the table
to try to see the TV.
So you try to, hey,
Yeah.
One of the other.
Either go wife's TV or eat this damn food.
Yeah.
Damn.
Talking at the table.
But hey, hold on.
Hey, hold on.
Hey, Joe, I'm, wait, hold on.
The best conversation, especially family-oriented conversation,
happened at the other table.
I bet you got your ass tore up.
The best ass whipping you would have got were at the dinner table.
What?
You tell, hey, hey, I know what I know what Uncle talking about,
but I know what Ocho talking about some old Thanksgiving type.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But you weren't at the table.
That's grown people at the table.
We're on the porch eating out of pie pans.
You ain't at no damn table with them grown folks in at the table.
All the grown folks sit at the table.
Eat at the good plates.
Right.
Yeah.
You're drinking, they got the good glasses.
You're drinking out of jelly jars, mayonnaise jars.
That's what you drinking out of.
Oh.
What you know about the jelly jar?
I know.
You leave that thing in that sun and hot water so you can scrape the,
you can scrape the jelly.
Bag on the mayonnaise out of it.
Band-Ais out of it.
Yeah, that's what you.
You're not, man, you're not, man, you're not,
they weren't playing.
That kids didn't sit at the dinner table.
Kids got their plate and they went on the front porch.
We can talk on the front porch.
All the grown people were in the kitchen.
Talk, they could talk, but you couldn't talk.
Grown people talking, like how you see kids
pulling on their parents' leg and stuff.
Yeah.
Lord, have mercy.
No, I didn't shoot.
What?
That ain't us on.
That ain't us doing that.
Oh, no.
Mm-mm.
Boy, you bring her back good memories, boy.
Hey, Joe, hey, remember cream of wheat?
Yes, yeah.
We had green.
We didn't eat cream of wheat, oatmeal.
Oh, you had, okay, what about Tang?
Yeah, but Tang.
I remember Tang.
I don't know, what's Tang?
What's Tang?
Like, uh, your power.
It's kind of like an orange drink.
It was smoked me like it kind of like an orange juice.
Yeah, I know, I know it.
Tang is, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't even know, it's amazing.
Well, you probably you can get anything off the internet.
Yeah, a little drink, Joe, it was powder, but you mix it with water.
It turned orange.
Yeah, you put too much water.
You wouldn't get no taste.
But those were the days, over the days, man, I'm looking at these kids now.
How do them kids be, boy, how the kids be so bad at the dinner,
go out to the restaurants and you're talking about sit down.
In public, yeah.
Oh, Lord, have mercy.
That's going to food on the man.
Barney Porter said the first time, thunder the next time is lightning.
I've seen the kid throw himself on the floor the other day.
Oh, get the tantrum.
At the mall.
At the mall.
I'm talking about square face first on the mall,
just on the floor, just asking the fool.
I said, ooh, woo.
Joe, black folk?
No.
No.
Hey, yeah, okay.
Look here out.
Hey, grandma, favorite line.
Wherever you show out, that's exactly what you get whoa out.
Yes, sir.
My greatest, I'm going to shut.
I'm a shut.
down on his ass.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, you already knew, boy,
you knew not to touch that,
don't ask for that.
No, yeah.
Oh, they let you know before you walk in, Joe.
There you go.
Hey, we had, back in the day,
I remember on 54th Street,
we had a place that's called Zairs.
You remember Zares?
Yeah.
Remember Zer?
Man, it's super old.
Before we go in here,
don't touch nothing,
don't ask me for nothing.
Before we walk in,
and she stopped at the door.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, so soon as you get by something you like, you just stay at it.
So she can see you.
Hey, so she can see you stand at it.
See, Barton Porter, you had to have a member.
You had to have a little, you had to be like an elephant.
People say, well, man, how do you remember all that?
Because Barty Porter told you something one time.
Forget it if you want to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're heavy-handed.
I push the buggy.
I ain't no, you know, I push it.
I can barely see over the bug.
I push the buggy.
Man, I ran that bug on the back of Grand of Hills.
She reached back in the
Yeah, I remember that.
I remember them days.
You stop!
You ain't going to signal that you stop.
Hey, hey, when you that young, Unk and Joe,
you have no self-awareness.
You have no self-fulness.
When someone's stopping in front of you,
obviously you gotta stop the buggy.
You ain't even paying attention.
You just push you.
That's it.
But we were, I don't even know why we're down to hour.
We all gonna get something.
You weren't going shopping until Grady got paid.
So you get in hot dogs
You get some donuts
You get some chicken
You're going to get some rice
You ain't but a handful of the thing you're going to get
She'll go up there
She ain't going to pay for it
She's going to put it on credit
Or she might put half of it
So the grocery bill might be $25
She's going to put 10, 15 on credit
And she's going to put
A go in there because she had a money
And a handkerchief
You know old people just keep their money
In a handkercher
All that crumbled up
She ain't probably got but $13, $14
She's going to give them the $10.
She'll go keep, ask for some
change because she's going to give me a spanking 50
since, because they're going to pass the
plate around twice on Sunday
and we put a quarter in each time.
A quarter?
What the hell you're talking?
Look here.
Hold on.
I had nothing.
So 10% of nothing would have been nothing.
Hey, uh, you know, you know what you always
saying now. You know, God don't like no noise.
Well, Barty, Mary,
They're held no paper.
Hey.
I know that feeling, boy.
Hey, look.
Hey, grandma gonna make sure you got some money.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You go to pump faking you want to.
Act like you put something down up in there
and you just keep it in your hand.
Yeah.
Sometimes I saw some dollars in there.
I want to take something out.
I said, Lord, you.
Hey, you got to be a sandwich to do that in church.
Yeah, because he looked.
But at every time, I didn't want to put that 50s in there.
You know what I could have done with 50s in the day?
Milk was a nickel of carton.
Remember they had them little milk?
They had chocolate,
they had white milk and chocolate milk and chocolate milk.
They was a nickel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got 50 cent.
Oh yeah, you bother.
Man, please.
Well, you know how much 50 cent was that then?
I do.
Well, a little kid as a shorty.
Man, you felt like he was on top of the world.
I remember what a can of Coke was a quarter.
A 12-ounce can of Coke was a quarter.
A honey bun with a quarter.
A bag of chips was a quarter.
I remember all that.
There was penny candy.
You get 25 pieces of candy for 25 cents.
You get 25, you get them little cookies for 25 cents.
Or you get like 10 of those big, those big flywheel cookies.
Yeah, I absolutely remember what it was like.
Hell, I remember when cigarettes was like 35, 40 cents a pack.
Now they damn to $8, $9 a pack.
People used to say, bad.
If cigarettes ever go to $75, I'm done smoking.
Now ain't going to $7.5, they went to $1.00.
Boy, if they go to $1.50, your uncle is.
I'm doing.
All I remember them days where, hey, the price of this stuff used to be, used to be so, so
simple.
Hey, Joe, y'all had the candy lady house out there with you from, Joe?
Man, we, yeah, we had a do on the, uh, a corner stove.
And, um, oh, Joe, you go in there and get them little debit snack.
You're going there with a dollar for it.
Come out of them.
What you know, like him?
Boy, them debit, oh, them star crunch.
Hey, at the candy lady house, frozen cups were nothing but a quarter.
Yeah.
frozen cup, watermelon frozen cup, fruit punch frozen cup.
And they had little strawberry cookies.
Sister Tillman, she had two boys, she had two sons, James and John.
And she, they sold, yeah.
Oh, do some good days anyway.
Yeah, but, hey, but see, that's why I got no patience.
Now granted had more patience to Papa, Papa had zero patience, zero.
Yeah.
He just expected, he just ain't teaching nothing.
I mean, and Libby, Libby was the oldest.
He believed Libby hung the moon.
If you told him my sister didn't hang the moon,
you probably had to fight him.
Libby wrote the checks.
Libby signed his name for the report cards.
Libby did anything that needed to be done.
Yeah.
Everything. Libby did it.
Because Libby was the oldest girl,
which, I mean, he trusted Libby.
All my uncle's the same way.
Thurnell, James, BJ, Thurman, all of them.
needed something, Libby read this, tell me what this say.
Cause she understands she had patience.
Me, I like, y'all, but she, she, she got patient.
Libby got, of all of me, of us three, she's by far the most patient.
Then comes spanking, y'all already know I ain't got none.
I ain't even been to hold you.
Yeah.
I haven't been to hold you.
None.
We got some updates.
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A win is a win. A win. A win is a win.
I don't care which I'll say it.
Yep, that's me. Cliver Taylor
the 4th. You might have seen the skits,
the reactions, my journey from
basketball to college football or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,
this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to
my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with
some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
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who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down
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and Our Stars, and now I guess also is the co-host of the away end,
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known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched
every game, and I fell in love. On our new podcast, the away end, we'll share with you the magic
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is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.
very debatable. And I was there most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love
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of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with
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Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later. We're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider.
This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey.
With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer?
Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it.
Do you want a white collar or something here? Just hit it.
What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a wrap?
Alba.
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I would buy it.
Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake.
That sounds delicious.
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Lucas to return in round one.
Reeves is for the long in his rehab that Luca is.
Reeves has started one-on-one on court work.
It needs to go through three-on-three and five-on-five.
Reeves is tracking to return late in the first round or early second round if the Lakers are to advance.
Despite KD's return to short-handed Lakers, outlasted the Rockets last night,
one-on-one-194, studying two-old lead in the first round.
Goat James, 28 points, eight rebounds, seven to sit.
Y'all saw you boy, you saw your boy,
you board, Corr aside, Joe.
Hey, I see, I'll see, oh, that doing you one, two.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see, yeah, I said, yeah.
You had a good time, you had a great time.
You know, oh, God, where you been, man, we miss you.
Yeah, they said, you know, you're gonna do the talk, John.
Did they ask you about me?
Yeah, no.
No, they said, man, why Ocho, why Ocho do Joe like that?
Oh, man.
They weigh, I mean, that's way out there.
It's Southern Cal asking why you do that man.
The whole world.
Oh, Joe.
The whole world, no.
You know we're famous, Nat, so you know the word travel.
Hey, hey, hey, I like what I seen from the Lakers.
Oh, yeah.
Hey.
I'm going to tell you who, they're giving them credit,
but they ain't giving them enough credit if you ask me,
and that's, Marcus, Mark is.
The job.
You doing okay, G?
Mark, Katie.
I think, I know, I know they're throwing the double team,
A, Katie, but the times that he do get matched up with him one-on-one,
he wins more than that.
Absolutely.
You know what I mean?
He is a great defender, bro.
He's shorter than Katie, but he got long arms.
You know what I mean?
And he has great anticipation skills.
And I think, you know, I mean,
even think back through the regular season
when the Lakers played the Rockets,
they've got the better of them
with this strategic defensive mechanism
that they're doing against them.
And that's trapping Katie,
making him a passer,
making him a willing passer
because they don't believe
none of them other guys
and as of right now
they haven't been able to
Reeshipper can't get minutes
the other guys are not great enough
shooters and at some
point in time they're going to have to move the ball
because it's like KD had it going
and then everybody else want to get involved to it
let me get mine let me get mine let me get mine
and it plays right into the Lakers' hands
because they ain't got nobody cut
and got nobody diving to the brim everybody
standing I mean hell they're standing
I'm like
do any of y'all want to move
I mean, y'all blocking my view,
but I appreciate you all steady right here
because there ain't nobody cutting towards the rim.
And the thing is that they got KD so far out,
he's not a threat, but ain't nobody else moving.
And so when he turns his back,
Marcus Mark, get in the ball.
Or that's why he had nine turnovers.
You go back and look at a lot of his games,
he have seven turnovers and play in Lakers.
He had six turnovers because they're forcing him to be a passer.
He, that's not what he is.
He's a score.
Right.
An elite.
Yeah.
One of the greatest of all time, man, watching him last night and just watch how he
effortless, I'm like, man, that's ridiculous.
It don't matter what.
Hey, they try to cover that shame baddie and put your hand over his eyes.
I think he should win his eye glow because it don't even matter.
Joe, oh, Joe, he gets to that spot.
There's a rap.
He pulled up.
It's a rap.
Especially once he go up.
Hey, but you look at the Lakers game playing.
I like their game playing.
Okay, Ocho, meaning they got him thinking so much now
because he want to get into his bag,
but he knows soon as he go to getting into it,
it's another coming coming.
So now it's kind of got him out of rhythm.
That's why you see him with nine turnovers
because he second guesses himself a lot
when he goes into his move because it's natural for him.
Now, because every time I'm going to my move,
it's another dude coming to trap.
You know, he isn't,
they're making him a willing passer.
He's not necessarily,
I ain't saying Katie he's selfish,
but that's really not his game.
You feel me?
Like, they don't got guys on the team to where,
like you can't play brun like that
because he got other guys he can kick too.
They can play mate.
I mean, Ruiz shooting historically from the three.
Luke Canard playing.
Luke Canard played out of their damn mind.
I've never seen Luke Conard.
And I've watched Luke Conard.
I remember he was at Duke.
Joe.
Oh, Cho, I've never seen this guy put the ball on the floor more and attack like he is right now.
You can run him off the three if you want to.
He'll put the ball on the floor and he'll get all the way to the rim or he'll stop and pop to mid-range.
Hey, listen, when I hear him talk, man, it's preparation meeting an opportunity.
You know, you got you got two of your best scores out, two of your best ball handlers.
And now it's an opportunity for somebody on that team to step up.
and be a big playmaker, score, what have you.
And, bro, he answered the bill of both games.
Like, man, I'm talking about,
nah, he ain't just been the playoffs, though.
He's been bawling now since he got in.
Since he came.
Boy, Atlanta, I don't know what y'all was thinking.
Y'all gave us Luke Kinnardi.
Y'all took Gabe Vincent.
Thank you.
It wasn't going to, uh, uh, uh, uh,
it wasn't going to work like that over here.
Come on, it wasn't going to work with him.
That's okay.
Just the mere fact, you all want you.
That's all.
I don't give a damn high it was going to work.
Y'all wanted him.
Gabe Vincent's going to help
he's going to help us win games.
He's going to have those wins
he's going to have some playoff games.
Like my guy, DJ, say,
hoo!
Hey, hey, Ocho, he's feeling good about the Lakers,
ain't it, man.
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, listen, he was,
hey, he had his feet on the wood, too.
So you know he's feeling good.
I already know it.
And also, you know what?
We expect this from him.
You know, he's showing how versatile he is.
LeBron.
Yeah.
Man, listen, being able to defer and allow awesome reasons and Luca to do what they did all season long.
And based on circumstance now, let me show y'all I can still lead a team, even at 41 years old.
Let me show you my IQ where I can always be two or three steps ahead of everybody else depending on what you want to do.
Either I can be, I can cert myself early or I can facilitate and let everybody else get in rhythm and then pick and choose when I want to insert myself and go.
game.
That guy then
LeBron, the special boy. So honestly
to this point, I'm
confused how people can still
have negative things to say where you have
to nitpick on someone who's had as much
success as he's had, not in his
prime, but still having that 41 years
old. Because it's easy.
Yeah.
It's easier. It's much easier to hate
than appreciate someone. They won't
appreciate till he's gone, though. But I just go to show
you. If LeBron James was on a team
and he was the number one option,
this is what he'd be doing.
Think about it.
He gave it 20, 27, and 6
as a third option.
Imagine if he's the first option
or even the second option.
Because remember last year,
the second option,
he gave it 24.
He gave you 24.
He gave you 24.9, 7 and 7,
or 24, 8, and 7.
As the number two option.
So just imagine if he's the number one option,
he still could do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's still consistently, his productivity is great.
I think he really relish in this moment, okay, Ocho.
Yeah.
Meaning that they were an underdog coming into this series.
Everybody's talking about they ain't have a chance.
Like him coming out, playing the way he's been playing, you know, asserting himself,
taking the initiative to, you know, try and sitting there chair and guard and playmaking and score.
Hey, man, I've been impressed, bro.
I've been impressed.
I want to see him go down to Houston
and see if they can take care of business.
And the thing, hey, Joe, what are you talking about?
I don't care about no eight for 20.
14 free throw team.
Let me know what?
He's aggressive.
There you go.
There you go.
Putting pressure on the rockets to be able to try and stop him.
If not that, it's different when you say LeBron are willing pass.
I think passing is a great attribute of his.
and he does it better than anybody, Uncle Ocho.
And if guys are making shots, then it just makes them look good.
You feel what I'm saying?
It's just when they're not making shots, now we're like,
all right, man, you got to score the ball.
But I think he does a great job, man,
and figuring those guys out, making plays for everybody
and still at this big age, 41, bro,
still being effective the way he is.
Because I'm going to be honest,
they don't got nobody who can guard him.
Houston don't.
They got nobody with no bricks in their back.
pocket. They got limbs, but they don't have, they don't have, they don't have, they don't
have the size, the weight. Because he's going to back, hey, he's going to back him down and say,
okay, y'all don't come to the double team. I say, take your time. And you, you watch,
he looking around, he's looking around, he's looking around. He's done he going, hey,
he's going to go on his left, he comes, hey, beep, beep, beep, you can't stop that.
Nah, it's going to be told to stop there. But boy, listen, if they just, if they just
Just so happened, be able to get up out of this round
and Luke and them come back
against OKC.
Yeah.
I don't know what to tell you.
But the difference is, is that if you notice yesterday,
LeBron had the ball in his hand
because LeBron can control the game.
He's not going to let you get up and down.
No, sir.
No, sir.
And there's going to be no quick shots.
He got to control the game.
Hey, he'll say, hey, he'll say,
even if Marcus Mark or Canar bring the ball up, hey, go ahead and take it up.
Slow it down.
We got got to.
Let's not get into an up and down.
We don't need to get into an up and down.
Yeah, they, I think he do a great job with that basically just playing point guard.
Hey, listen, if Marcus Mark is going to give you an efficient 25 points, you ain't got,
and they're probably going to win every game if he's going to play like that.
If Luke could not, if Luke and Marcus Mark and, because you remember Luke Conar had 27.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Marcus Smart playing on both.
Because LeBron had 28, I think.
But I think the thing is, what's most impressive is that the job that Markets
Smart and that defense did on KD in the second half,
they only held him to three points.
And he got two of the three with about a minute and a half to go in the ball game.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Marcus Smart has been, I think, one of the biggest keys for the Lakers,
especially defensively.
But, man, their whole team be on a string,
Uncle Ocho. When they go for that double team on KD,
you got to see how guys rotate.
Because when you rotate,
just for a split second,
somebody got to take two guys for like a split second
until you come up out of that.
And once you know that, bro,
and the way they're able to make it effective,
it's like they're making Houston take rush shots,
take shots that they normally don't take.
You got guys trying to go into their bag.
I don't even know they had it.
bag, you feel what I'm saying?
So now you got guys playing out of character.
Yeah.
All it is, it's going to have to speed it.
Got to speed up KD in his thinking process.
That's all.
Speed it up.
Once you get that ball, instead of going into your bag,
be able to know what's coming before it even come.
Already know your outlet is understanding that the trap is coming.
I mean, that's the only way to beat him.
Now, I could be wrong.
Joe, what would you think?
Man, that's the problem with not having a lead guard.
Because listen, once he gets,
give it up. He know that damn ball ain't coming back to him. Right. So he ain't going to get many,
spot-up shots. All his shots, yeah, he got hot early, but you see how hard he got to work to
get a shot? You feel what I'm saying? Like, he got to go through Mark and Smart who's being physical,
and then he know when to finesse him. You feel what I'm saying? So, yeah, he might get a couple
easy ones, but for the most part, he's working so hard for every shot did he get, okay, Ocho.
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