Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Purdy failed Chiefs test, Swizz Beatz on Alicia Keys & Usher

Episode Date: February 13, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Kansas City Chiefs daring Brock Purdy to beat them and coming out on top, Fletcher Cox throwing shade at Deebo Samuel after the 49ers took th...e Super Bowl L, Swizz Beatz responding to Alicia Keys-Usher moment, and much more! 4:00 - Chiefs dared Purdy to throw 18:45 - Fletcher Cox calls out Deebo 24:30 - Swizz Beatz addresses Usher & Alicia Keys moment 39:00 - Dennis Schroder's awkward party 43:30 - Dunk on Unc (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #volume #clubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:49 I like that. Legereus Sneed said the Chiefs defense had a clear plan. We just wanted Brock to throw the ball. Let me put this back. Let me say this again now. Legereus Sneed, the all-world cornerback of the kansas city chiefs yeah i believe he's the second best player on their defense behind
Starting point is 00:04:09 obviously cj stone cold chris jones yeah but jerry is need said the chief's defense had a clear plan we just wanted brock to throw the ball right have you ever heard of a great quarterback or an elite quarterback the defense want him to throw the ball low Yeah, you're right. You're right. I like what Legere said. And based on what he was saying, maybe all the talks about being a game manager, maybe the bad game that he had maybe three, three weeks ago when they played. Was it not not the Ravens? Yeah, I think the Ravens. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was on Christmas. Yeah. Seeing Ravens. Yeah, it was on Christmas. Yeah, seeing a game like that, it would lead to believe, you know what,
Starting point is 00:04:49 if we can put pressure on them, if we can get them to throw the ball, I think we will have success. But even with LeJarius saying that, I'm just going to be honest, Brock Purdy had a good game through the air. He was 23 for 38 for 255. He did have a good game. He didn't put his team in harm's way there were just a few throws that I think if those throws were made in that game the outcome may have
Starting point is 00:05:12 been different I'm just just being honest but listen oh man kudos to LeJarius Sneed I talked I talked to LeJarius about two weeks ago man and and talked to him about the season he's had to this point and what he's done for that defense, him and Chris Jones, man. And they got away with one. It was close. Yesterday was a very, very close game. Very close game. But who's the offensive player of the year?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Offensive player of the year? Mm-hmm. Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, see, Mac? That's the the guy you fear that's the guy you set your defense up to stop to stop right if you look at the green bay what did he do run run look at a detroit what did he do run yeah you look at the games in which he doesn't run the football they don't win right i'm setting my defense because i don't fear him now i can't let him do both now because you got to pick one i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:06:11 stop the run most teams says i'm gonna shut your run off right because what does the 49ers like to do i've played in that west coast system the better part of my career is play action right you see when they when they got him on the move he either either got the first down, dumped it to his fullback, hit the over, hit Iyuk, hit the over route. So he's like, you know what? We just not – we don't want 23. That's the problem. I don't want 23 to beat us. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And he's not going to beat us. And so I'm not surprised that that was their game plan. What did they say? What did Kansas City say? We wanted Lamar Jackson to throw the ball from the pocket. Mm-hmm. This is the way I look at it, and I told people, like, get upset. I said, look, if Lamar Jackson throws for 320 yards,
Starting point is 00:06:53 he has three to four touchdowns. I walk to the middle of the field, and I shake his hand. Yeah. But what I'm not going to let him do is throw for 235 and run for 115. Right. That's not going to happen. Right. Because I can't beat him because they're going to keep the ball away from us.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And he's going to keep the crowd in the game. And so now we're at his mercy. He's running the ball. Now he's going to play actionous because we got to drop the guy down. So, hey, y'all got to handle this up front. Y'all got to handle this up front. That's y'all. Handle it up front.
Starting point is 00:07:25 They did a great job of that. But I'm not surprised. You say Purdy had it. Go ahead, Ochoa. What you want to say? Yeah. They stopped running. I think it was some point in the third quarter. Some point in the third quarter, they didn't run the ball as much as they should have, if I'm not mistaken. They did. I tweeted
Starting point is 00:07:39 it. I said, okay, Niners. Y'all going to mess right around and keep throwing and not running. And y'all gonna get exactly what you're looking for. I think when it mattered, when it would have mattered most, if they tried the run, there were a few times where the Chiefs defense stopped the run, and I
Starting point is 00:07:55 think that's where Shanahan went away from, because they were prepared for it, and they were ready for it, and I think that's what forced them in a situation where, you know what, we're being a little bit too predictable, we're running on first, we're running on second. Let's try something else. Let's try to throw it first and get them off their heels a little bit
Starting point is 00:08:11 so they don't know exactly what's coming and it just didn't work in their favor. Listen, all it is is a guessing game, a chess match between coordinators. Let me do the opposite of what they think I'm getting ready to do. Yeah, I mean, you try to keep them off balance.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But at the end of the day, what you're good at, you got to be able to do that. Yeah. That's what you got to be able to do, Ocho. And sometimes running the football necessarily isn't about getting, you always want to get yards. But I just want you to think, no, I will run this ball. Y'all keep screaming up field if you want to. I'm going to hand it off and I'm going to hit a crease on you.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Right, and you're going to be gone. Yeah. And I'll be gone. So I just can't let you sit back there and drop in the coverage. I can't. I mean, look at Spag. He's won three Super Bowls. I think he was – wasn't he the D.C. at the Giants when they beat New England?
Starting point is 00:09:03 When they beat Brady, he was? Yeah. I think – wasn't he the DC at the Giants when they beat New England? When they beat Brady? He was? Yeah. I think so. Wasn't he? I think Spags was. God damn. Everywhere Spags go, they goddamn winning Super Bowl, man. Who was the Giants DC?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah. Spags. Well, Spags knows something, man. He knows something. Yeah, because he got four Super Bowls, three with the Chiefs and one with the Giants. So what that tells me, he's a great big game DC. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:39 It also tells me that he has his players in position. They study. You study the tape and says, look, if we do what we do and they beat us, that's on me. Right. Just don't be out of position. Don't play hero ball. And let's get them on the ground. Because what do the 49ers do as well as any team in football?
Starting point is 00:09:59 Run after catch. Catch, yeah. Debo, IU, Kittle, Jennings. We know Christian McCaffrey can run after catch because he can run the football. When you get there, they go no further. The journey's over. But, you know, if you look at the 49ers offensively,
Starting point is 00:10:16 look at the stats. Look at the stats in the air. Kittles, really? No yards, no catches. IU didn't get the ball enough. Ayuk didn't get the ball enough. Devo didn't touch the ball enough. From an offensive standpoint, McCaffrey really, I would say, was the bulk of the offense.
Starting point is 00:10:34 In a game like that, you need all hands on deck. I say it every time. If the Chiefs had lost this game, I would have been upset about Tony not playing because you need every offensive weapon as, you know, you need every offensive weapon as to be used. To have, listen, to have Kittle, to have IU, to have Debo, and not use them to your full advantage offensively, I think it did more harm than it did good. Well, it seemed like Debo tweaked his hamstring or something and he wasn't the
Starting point is 00:11:07 same after that. Cause it looked like he would be, it looked like you saw him go down on Joe and he grabbed the back of that leg. That's never a good sign. Right. And so now it doesn't look like he was out there because I mean, they're already thin.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah. So now if you take him out, basically you're going with Conley, and Conley made a big third down catch. And so I'm not saying that he's not a decent receiver, but he's more of a special teams guy. And so they probably was a little hesitant to let him play more snaps than absolutely positive necessary.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Now, if Debo goes out, they really don't have a choice but to put him in there because now, I mean, I guess you could play Ray-Ray McDonald, and I think he got a handful of snaps but anything anything was possible but see from in and uh the 49ers were 3 or 12 on third down that ain't gonna win you too many that ain't gonna win you too many games i don't care who you playing exactly and and so that that's that's what i was that's what i was talking about. Purdy gets an opportunity. You look back, and they're going to be sick because they had them 20-10 in the fourth quarter three or four years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:11 They had them 10-0. And each time when they had momentum, they didn't get enough separation. Stop playing. He's like, Ocho, how many times have we seen the Patriots and teams just be going up and down the field, selling for field goals and not get anything out of it. And you say, okay, man, y'all better stop playing with Tom Brady. Y'all know what he capable of.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And the next thing you know, boom, the Patriots win the game. You're like, bro, didn't I tell y'all? I remember the Ravens had them dead to right, had them down by 14. Yeah. Late in the game. Next thing you know, as a matter of fact, it was 24. Was it 2014? No, that's when they beat the Colts.
Starting point is 00:12:52 What? When did it? Might have been 2010. It might have been 2010 when they beat the Giants. The Ravens had them down in the championship game. Didn't they beat the Ravens had them down in the championship game didn't they beat the Ravens in 2010 it's the quarterbacks yeah quarterbacks and so
Starting point is 00:13:17 like you don't fool around with them Mocho you go ahead and do them bad you gotta put them away yeah you gotta put them away you go ahead and do them bad. You got to put them away. Yeah, man. You got to put them away. You go ahead and do them dirty bad. I think when you think about it now, when you play teams that have quarterbacks that are special, quarterbacks that can raise their level of play in moments when it matters most,
Starting point is 00:13:42 you got to put those teams away early. You got to put them away early. Senator, hell, the Lions. The Lions made that mistake as well. Taking points off the board, being up 17-0, there's no reason why the Lions shouldn't have been. They should have been in Vegas. The Lions should have been in Vegas. You got to put the 49ers away when you're in a position
Starting point is 00:13:58 like that. No reason for that. What did we talk about? When the Lions had the momentum, they didn't put enough separation. What happened when the 49ers got the momentum? When the Lions had the momentum, they didn't put enough separation. Because what happened when the 49ers got the momentum? In the blink of an eye, they got the lead. 17 points in the NFL should be enough momentum
Starting point is 00:14:13 or enough separation. You don't think 17 points is enough? No. Because it should have been. You got to make it 21-0. Right. You got to make it 24-3. You got to make it 27-10. Right. Because guess what what 49ers go get 27 on that support and guess what they got the lead yeah that's that's just that's it and you oh joe how many times you've been on the game team beating y'all but they're not scoring the
Starting point is 00:14:38 kicking field goals next thing you know you and carson them catch five you look up you're like damn we done got the lead on these boys. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, it doesn't take long for old Mo. Momentum, that is. Yeah. Hey, bro. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:14:52 When we get to that, yeah. That's funny how the game works. That's funny how the game works. Every game, there's always a shift in momentum. There's always a shift in the imbalance. One team in the first half is playing one way. You come out second half, the other team actually catches fire. And it's weird how that works. No matter what you try to do, it happens every damn time. You'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee.
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Starting point is 00:16:20 Keep the Eagles name out your mouth, boy. Then he later said, I still got something you ain't got. Listen, he been holding this one in, son. EAD. You know what EAD is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, they've been very, very few times. They've been very few times in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Hold on, Joe. What, what, what, what what he's about ead yeah you know you know what that is right yeah yeah i know what it is okay okay yeah he he wanted he wanted to abbreviate it he didn't want to actually say it but there have been there have been very few times in nfl where nfl players really had true beef, true beef outside of the game of football where they really do not. They really dislike each other. And this is one of those cases. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Debo going at it against, uh, talking about Bradbury. It was, it was, it's more personal, uh, crab tree and a team.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Kaleeb. Wait, a key to leave. Didn't like each other. It was personal. Really, really, really, really liked that. One more. Joey Porter.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah. Joey Porter and Levi Jones, a teammate of mine, really, really didn't like each other. And it went away from the field. And I think this is another situation where these two really have a disdain and distaste for each other. And I never like to see it go beyond the football field. Yeah. But this is where we are now. They really,
Starting point is 00:17:50 really don't like each other. Yeah. I think the thing is, Debo felt last year had pretty not gotten knocked out of that championship game. They would have won that game. Right. So,
Starting point is 00:18:01 and they were talking about this all summer. He's going back and forth. Them boys trash. Mahomes going to expose them, which he did. They ended up losing that ball game late in the ball game. Then Debo was like, hey, we all healthy. We got something for you. Was it a Sunday night or a Monday night?
Starting point is 00:18:19 I think it might have been a Sunday night. They ran through them. I'm talking about like foreign water through a tourist. You know how you drink that water in Mexico, Montezuma's Revenge. Yes, sir. What was with the tackling in that game? That's all it was.
Starting point is 00:18:34 To cheat, I mean, not to cheat, the Eagles tackling. Oh, you're talking about it? I don't know. I ain't never seen nothing like that. They're taking their, they ain't really trying to tackle. They're trying to push people out of bounds. Bro, you got to get... You got to come to the party, man,
Starting point is 00:18:49 in a game of that magnitude. You got to come to the party. Nobody was coming up to the party, you know, wanting a drink. That's what I call it. You got to come up to the party like Bob Sanders, like Steve... You come to the party.
Starting point is 00:18:59 If you coming to the party, come to the party. Yeah, they wasn't. They wasn't. It's like they checked out almost. It seemed... The way they played, it seemed like they had already checked out yeah um uh hold on uh richard sherman and crabtree was what was it oh that's another good one that's the famous thing you know who you know i'd richard sherman and crabtree was cool but richard sure i mean but crabtree and goddamn atib khalid akib tal. Aqib Khalid is on a whole nother level. Yeah, he de-bolted.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah, yeah. That was a good one. That was a good one. Good memories. That's good football back then, man. I mean, I really never thought about it because, you know, guys kind of war changed
Starting point is 00:19:42 but not like they do now. Guys got on probably 100,000, 200,000 kind of war change, but not like they do not. Guys got on probably a hundred thousand, 200,000. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They, you know, when we, we had a little, you know, we had a little rope, had a little cross on it. Yeah. Now there are diamonds, crosses, Jesus piece.
Starting point is 00:19:58 They got them pieces like this out there. Yeah, man. Listen, they got Cuban. They got them Cuban. So mouth, mouth grill, grill with diamonds in it yes listen the furthest i went obviously i had a mouthful of goals top and bottom and that's just to to look to represent the mind to represent your mind that was it but today little boy that there looking like scammers in that football uniform man man ocho we was playing in the preseason game we were playing um the 49ers yeah and i had never had my
Starting point is 00:20:34 necklace broken uh snatched or anything so me and lee woodall i'm blocking him it's like a handoff and he gets up here and you know he tried to you know yank me down right right pull through you tried to pull through yeah yeah yeah so so but when he did that i pulled him to me so you remember if i tell you somebody push i pull right right pull i push right man wow man i'm looking all around i'm looking on the. Ocho, we flipped ends of the field. Man, they had security out there. They had the people out there looking for it. Man, the thing fell down in my pants.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yeah. Well, you had something expensive on? Yeah, I had my number. I had my number on. Right. Yeah. It was a baguette. It was nice. You know, when my home got right yeah uh uh it uh it was in baguette it was nice uh you know when my home got invaded they got them baguettes cause a little man but uh you know uh mike was
Starting point is 00:21:33 like man what's 84 what's going on to mike man he snatched my necklace and i lost it on the field so mike told him man we flipped the ends of the field yeah you thought hey maybe that's the only head you were still looking for it yeah they were looking for it and i was just like i was sitting on the bench thinking like damn man i just got that thing like two weeks ago oh you know i was just sitting on the bench i'm like oh man what's this oh you found it yeah yeah you talk about happy. I was real happy about that. Swizz Beats responds to his wife, Alicia Keys, Usher's moment. Swizz says, heard all the comments about Usher holding Alicia a little too close during the halftime.
Starting point is 00:22:17 He responded, IG said, y'all talk about the wrong damn thing. Y'all don't see an amazing dress covering the entire stadium. Tonight's performance was nothing but amazing to see two amazing Giants. Congrats, Usher, and my love, at Alicia Keys. That song is a classic. We don't do negative vibes on this side. We make history. Go Giants at the Brooklyn Museum.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It's open until July. Blessings. Swizz, you're a real one for that. Ocho, please help me understand. I'm going to help you. I i'm gonna help you in a minute i'm gonna help you why we like that why everything why everything gotta be i mean you know what yeah jenny jenny you know jenny taff i used to work with a great she is as good a person you'll meet man you i know i roll can can can black people can can our community can we have anybody of the opposite sex can they be free i don't i don't i believe i can be right everything ain't gotta be sexual i believe usher let me it's just like
Starting point is 00:23:21 actors and actors if they doing a love scene oh i know oh but i know he smoked that i know he smoked bro they're doing a job right that's that's the thing i think the casual fan or the casual fan of music or the casual um person really can't understand there's a certain level of maturity that comes into dealing with certain people of certain professions and you understand what that comes with when you when you deal with actors or you deal with or we deal with musicians that have the cosplay and and put themselves in an entertaining role for a specific for a specific thing that they have to do it's a part of entertainment which is what usher and lisa keys did now again for swiss obviously and anyone else in that would have been maybe happened to be in his position to
Starting point is 00:24:06 be dating alicia you have to understand what that comes with you know how many rehearsals they had before they even performed last night yeah i'm sure swiss was there and understood what was going on you think about dating actors or dating actresses that's another level of maturity that you have to have for sex scenes for kissing, for scenes where you're holding someone, for scenes with someone sleeping in a bed with you. And I think they're there for the regular average person. They can't see past that. They can't see past that because they're not used to it. I think the thing is that there are some actors, some actresses that won't do a scene. Right. Intimate scene. Right. I'm OK with that also.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Wait a minute. You mess with your money that there's certain also. Wait a minute. You're messing with your money now. There's certain things you won't do. You're taking money off the table. You can't do that. That's for them and that's for their household. You marry somebody, you understand. Right, right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:55 This is what they do. Okay, fine. I'm cool with it or I'm not cool with it. And so I don't understand how you do that song, my boo, and don't get close or don't look out of eye you my boo yeah and you know hey hey baby i mean and y'all be hugged up and you be rocking with it and i get it but i don't look at every time somebody do a song a love song together uh when who was that was that stephanie mills and teddy pendergrass did that song yeah or obviously now it was different uh with uh tina marie and rick james because they were a couple yeah they were a couple and we understand the chemistry there but everybody that does a love song together aren't trying to aren't
Starting point is 00:25:35 intimate right but we like to imply that because you put what you would do in that situation right and you project it on them. Right. We love project. You know, we love to screen. Projecting. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I don't know if you're old enough to remember this, the projectors, they used to have a little film and you run a little film through. Yeah, yes. Okay. We had them in high school.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Now, what I can say, what I can say, studies have shown, statistically, people that endure or work in jobs so you're always close and high in quarters with someone they tend to deal with that individual because you're always doing it constantly all the time yes it it does it does happen so we can't act like it doesn't happen when you when you're up and close so you're dealing with someone all the time and in close quarters.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Now, the situations do happen. It does happen. So I can see where everybody's going with it. But that's not the case here. Right. But everything happens. I mean, that's a situation. But that's a whole different argument. I mean, if we doing a situation, I'm doing a song or we're doing a movie.
Starting point is 00:26:46 That's a that's a the song is like, OK, we do that. Boom, we moved on. Alicia Keys exit stage left. OK, we practice that. It's not like that's every day. We do this every city. Two hundred two hundred stops a year. That's different. OK, I get somebody working a male male a woman and a man and a woman working in close proximity and you know but here's the thing you keep hey hey what are you doing let's go get a drink okay oh joe we going hey we going on company we going on company trips okay we got a conference a convention yeah and hey what you doing tonight let's go grab a bite okay you're creating a situation yeah
Starting point is 00:27:26 it happens all the time i've heard the stories in real life i've seen the stories play out in movies some of the things that that you see play out in movies they have to come from somewhere they come from experience they come from people actually doing it so yeah i understand where people are coming from but in this case we have to understand that they are entertaining their job is to entertain and all parties involved understand that because there's a certain level of maturity that they do have to execute what we saw yesterday the only difference between truth and fiction is fiction has to make sense right because we've all read things and you're like that can't be true right and it's actually true but when it's fiction it has to make sense it can't be out of the realm of possibility that
Starting point is 00:28:13 nobody would actually believe that this is possible right what's what's what's the young fella name what's the young young people name from uh from fox is it fox the couple the couple that worked on air. They worked on air in close quarters for a long time and they got fired and ended up being together. What's the couple? You know what I'm talking about? Was it Fox? No, it was ABC.
Starting point is 00:28:34 ABC. ABC. You're talking about Amy Robach. Yeah. And the Holmes. Yeah, Mr. Holmes. You see? You work with somebody.
Starting point is 00:28:43 You see him every day. You know, you have to deal with, I'm sure, the same scenario that you just mentioned. Hey, let's grab coffee. see? You work with somebody. You see him every day. You have to deal with, I'm sure, the same scenario that you just mentioned. Hey, let's grab coffee. Hey, let's get lunch. Guess what? They're both training for a marathon. Let's go for a run. Let's go get a
Starting point is 00:28:58 refuel. You see what you're doing, Ocho? You put yourself in harm's way. There's only so many times you're going to have... There's only so many times you're going to have, there's only so many times you can run across a busy intersection before you get your ass hit. There's only so many times, Ocho, you're going to be able to sit down with somebody.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah. Okay. All of a sudden, you're like, damn. Oh, I like the conversation. Oh, you're such an easy talk. Oh, you're so easy to talk to. How's everything going you know now you start sharing secrets at home yeah you know now all of a sudden what's at home it's annoying you come in the house man it's annoying such and such it's so easy to talk to yeah she's so relatable
Starting point is 00:29:38 and normally and normally that's how it is when you're dealing with someone or you have an outlet outside of home that brings you peace. Yeah. When you have an outlet outside of home that brings you peace, this is what happens. But listen, on the back end of it, at some point, once you leave home and what you thought was annoying and you go to someone else that brought you peace, now that you're dealing with them every single day, the cycle repeats itself, huh? The cycle repeats itself at some point. When you was a kid, Ocho, and you got a new toy, I guarantee you didn't play with it the whole year.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Oh, no. You played with it about the tools, the newness wore off of it. It was gone like the rest of the toys that you got the previous year. It happens every time. And similar, same situation based on the analogy you just said,
Starting point is 00:30:25 like get a new toy. Well, women, women love a new purse. You ain't going to wear that whole purse the whole year. Women love a new heel. Oh, they're going to wear that thing to death until it starts to wear down. Huh? Come on now. Don't talk to me now.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I know Ray will talk about, ooh, I like this. I need something to go with this. I need something to go with this outfit. Right, right, right. I like that purse. Well, hold on. You got 100 outfits. You think you about to have 100 purses up in this joint?
Starting point is 00:30:49 No, no, it ain't going to work like that. I help you. I got one purse for 100 outfits. That's how we're going to do that. Interchangeable. You better flip it in and out. Everything interchangeable. I know she watching too.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Hey, Rell. Hey, Rell. Hey, here's the thing. Ocho, you know who's got to be most secure huh usher's wife what about that residency that he had yeah and he on taraji and he on kiki and he only different women singing singing the people yeah hey that's what i'm talking about at his residency yeah now you know who didn't have that that level of maturity k Kiki's husband. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:26 He's not used to that. This is new for you. So you have to understand, you're dealing with a woman that is a high caliber woman in the acting industry. She's great at acting. She's great at- How secure are you? Okay, Usher does that to Rhea. And Rhea backing it up on, uh-huh, you heard what I said.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. See, we talked about situation and put yourself in certain situations rail no better than to put herself in that situation she knows that whoa whoa whoa whoa don't do that don't do that don't do that don't do that she know better than that baby i know baby i know you're watching you'll come hell high water and they moses part of the red sea but i'm gonna pause something else don't do that don't do me like that again i heard i have a certain level of maturity as well yeah enjoy yourself you're having fun yeah you're having fun you know you you usher dancing you usher singing to you i'm okay with that i'm not i'm never i never i ain't never been like that you know right now that's a moment that you can have and live on that lives on forever that you like that, you know? That's a moment that you can have and that lives on forever
Starting point is 00:32:25 that you will always remember, you know? And I just, I've never been that type, but it's cool. It's cool. I like us. I need to start performing too, man. We are. We do it for three, four nights a week.
Starting point is 00:32:38 We do it like three, four nights a week. Yeah, I'm talking about on stage. I'm talking about on stage though. Bro, we have 30, 40. We have, how many times? What we had have 30, 40. We have how many? What did we have? 90. 90 what?
Starting point is 00:32:47 93, 94? We peaked at 90. 90. What? We had 90,000 last night? Last night. Last night. What?
Starting point is 00:32:56 Actually, had you been able to make it, we had 40,000 ready to go. By the time you got here, it had dropped down to like 20. We built it back up right but if he had if we had been able to go like immediately after the game right we could hit that we could hit that hundred but oh no no no don't worry about that i believe now that we build up our sub base starting next year yes sir we routinely will be doing 75, 100 plus thousand. Ooh. Woo. I like that.
Starting point is 00:33:30 But hats off to you, Swiss. You handle it like a real man. I love the way that you stood up for your queen. Like, hey, ain't no negativity over here. Nah. But we quickly do that, boy. If we ain't got something going on good in our life, won't we show, hey, won't we show try to bring something bad in your life? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. It's true, boy. If we ain't got something going on good in our life, won't we show, hey, won't we show try to bring something bad in your life?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, most definitely. It's true, though. The less you have going on in life, the more you're concerned with others and how they operate. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast
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Starting point is 00:35:46 to the Nets. Dennis celebrated his son's fifth birthday yesterday with a Raptors themed birthday cake. The caption, yes, we planned before I got traded. Man, basketball, you know, basketball is different than football, Ocho. You know, football players don't really
Starting point is 00:36:01 and baseball. Yeah, and baseball. You know, they be trading. Football, you know, football players don't really. And coaching too, man. Yeah. And baseball. You know, they be trading. Football, you know, football don't really get traded. Football players don't really get traded like that during the season. Right. Normally the trades happen in the offseason because football is a little bit more complicated. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Learning the plays and things like that. Trying to blend, assimilate yourself in. Man, man, I feel. Look, he's five, and, you know, hopefully he still had a great birthday, being surrounded by his mom and dad, love and everything. But, man, it's a tough business. It's a tough business.
Starting point is 00:36:37 What do you do? What do you do in that case when it comes to basketball players and trade deadlines? And do you know when you're on the bubble? You hear. You hear, obviously. Your agent will let you know though, right? Yes, sometimes they will. But think about it, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yes, sir. Adam Schefter is in business for a reason. Jay Glazer is in business for a reason. Teams, execs, coaches, NFL. There's a reason why they hear it. So you get Woj, you get Sham Sharanya.
Starting point is 00:37:11 They know. When they start reporting stuff... You got to come from somewhere. They give them the lead on purpose, huh? Of course. I got to get in a position where they wouldn't tell me stuff like that and the thing is what would you but you notice uh if a a reporter that writes up like what's
Starting point is 00:37:32 your source man that man can't tell you your source he won't get any more information exactly exactly i mean oh how you know how if i told you how i know i ain't gonna get no more information right why would i tell why would i tell you where the money tree is so you can go pick all the bills you chop my damn tree down you would see the people that see your hair the thing on show i told so if i tell somebody where the money tree is they ain't gonna see they're not smart enough they're like okay i'm gonna go get my couple off here they want to chop the tree down now you know you chop the tree down guess what it ain't to grow no more money. So if I give up my source, guess what? I ain't going to get no more info.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And the funny thing about it, if you give up your source, then everybody else is going to run to the source and try to beat you to the punch. Thank you. You can't let them beat you to the punch because they beat you to the punch and they take your money. Right. Now, all of a sudden, he used to give me information that nobody else had i'm looking oh man he got that information now he's like no i can't give you no more information i gotta give it to your rival and now your boss like man what you ain't had no good info in a while no intel right yeah you know i let the fake the fans told me i should give up you know my sources so i told him uh no can't do that. No, no, like I said,
Starting point is 00:38:46 no, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't get down. Oh, Joe, I heard you're very excited to quiz me in some trivia. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:56 We got a new segment. I like time for our next segment. It's called dunk on. And you finna get them all wrong. Hold up. Why y'all put that picture in there? You know I know that picture came from right. Man, that ass.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Ass dirty. Guess what ass was telling me and Jordan? Talking about, well, if you work on this team and you can't take a little roasting, it's not going to work well for you. I said, Ash, I kind of worked at a lot of places. People don't normally roast on the boss. I'm just saying, you know, I'm saying, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Well, wait a minute. You remember those Dean Martin roasts back in the days? Yeah. In Vegas? Yeah. Oh, man, you got to be able to take that. Who is... Zim was your coach, right?
Starting point is 00:39:50 Mark Zimmer? No, you had Marvin. You had Marvin. Yeah, Marvin. But Mark Zimmer was a defensive coordinator. He was there. Did you roast Marvin? No, I didn't really bother him. I didn't really bother him. What about Brown? Mike Brown? Yeah. Hell no. I ain't bothering bother him what about Brown Mike Brown
Starting point is 00:40:05 hell no I ain't bother Mike whoa whoa whoa but those aren't the people you want to be funny with I was funny with my teammates I was funny with Marvin in a joking manner not making fun of him manner
Starting point is 00:40:22 oh man look here I tell the story Mr. B. I was in Mr. B. I tell the story. Mr. B, Mr. Boland was our owner. And, you know, he used to come in on Thursdays, go down to our trainer, Steve Antonopoulos, Greek, and he would sit up in his office and put his feet up on Greek's desk and wait for Greek to come in there after he get done taping
Starting point is 00:40:44 and ask him about the injury so I went I stole his glasses cut my shorts up like his like his he had little teeny tiny shorts got me a shirt so I came in there had the socks he like to pull the socks up like quarter almost to his calves and so I
Starting point is 00:41:00 did that but I got his glasses on so I'm dressed like he would normally dress he walked he turned the corner to come in Greek office I did that, but I got his glasses on. So I'm dressed like he would normally dress. He walked, he turned the corner to come in Greek office. I got my feet up on Greek's desk, got his glasses on, and I'm just looking. He's like, you mofo. He thought that was the funniest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:41:25 He says, you know you're the only one that can get away with this, don't you? I say, I absolutely know I'm the only one that can get away with this. Mike, you know, before Mike would like come in to me and I'd be up there early. We always in the seats early. Mike didn't play that bull job. You walking in. And when you're standing up, you better not walk in that room. You better go ahead and wait.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Go ahead and take that fine. Because you walk in there, it ain't going to be pretty. So, you know, Mike would come in like at nine o'clock. Everybody already sitting up in there like 8.58. You know, I got to head to the podium. Got to mimic him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Hey, he come down there. I couldn't get, I couldn't get, I couldn't get my seat soon enough with you. He called me a couple of times, but it is what it is. Number seven.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Oh yeah, I got him at practice all the time. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It was funny. No. Oh, it was his, yeah. It was funny? No? Oh, it was his mannerisms.
Starting point is 00:42:08 It was his mannerisms that I would do. Right, right. Yeah, but I was the guy that kept it loose, though, Joe. I had to keep it loose. Yeah. But I knew when to have fun, knew when to get serious. We in the same boat. We in the same boat.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Huh? Who? Sometimes. Oh, you deserve to get roast I ain't gonna tell y'all that time that Ash went to pick up something and threw her back out it was heavy heavy
Starting point is 00:42:35 oh my bad I wasn't supposed to tell you my bad my bad Jordan Jordan wouldn't have said she went to she went to pick up a pen. A pen? A pen. An ink pen.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Oh, that means she must have been working out. So the injury was going to be there. Working out? Walking from the elevator to take the elevator down two floors to my room. That's not working out, Ash. I'm sorry. All right, come on, Ocho. Let's get it you
Starting point is 00:43:05 ready dunk on dunk on dunk on dunk on trivia question the first question is you're not gonna get this one anyway you definitely gonna get this you ready yep patrick mahomes just won his third lombardi trophy he was the second youngest quarterback to ever win a super bowl back in 2019 at the age of 24 who was the youngest quarterback to ever win a Super Bowl back in 2019 at the age of 24. Who was the youngest quarterback to ever win a title? Who? Yeah, you ain't gonna get this one. He was the second. Oh, Big Ben.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Big Ben was the youngest. You ain't know that, man. You cheating, man. Let me see your hand. Let me see your hand. Big Ben, you gotta realize Big Ben came out early, and he won the Super Bowl in his second year. They lost in the AFC Championship game to New England in 2004. And he came back and won it in 2005.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I was at that game because that same night, that's the same night Kobe scored 81 on Toronto. On Toronto. Okay, you're right. You're right. You're right. Chad, Ben Roethlisberger was the youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl at the age of 23 when the Steelers defeated the Seahawks in Super Bowl 40.
Starting point is 00:44:12 40. Okay, you got one. You got one. All right. You definitely going to get this one, though. Okay. Which city has hosted the most Super Bowls? New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:44:25 New Orleans or Miami? Loud and wrong. No, your first answer. We're going with your first answer. Your first answer was New Orleans. Wrong. It's Miami. Miami has hosted
Starting point is 00:44:35 the most Super Bowls with 11. Wow. 11. But listen, Super Bowl is in New Orleans this year. This year coming up.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Do you have any trivia multiple choice? All these are multiple choice. They ain't no multiple choice. Multiple choice, though, you got to give me the answers. You want me to give you the answers so you can choose from them? Nah. You do know how that multiple choice work, right? Nah, we ain't doing that.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Okay. Hey, you got to be like Stump the Swab. Yeah, you got to know this stuff. You do realize that's not my only job all right we got one more i got one more come on oh oh this is you should get this one and this is a no-brainer chris mccaffrey led the nfl in yards from scrimmage this season with 2023 yards yeah which running backs hold the nfl record with the most yards from scrimmage in a single season? You got to know this. I'm going to go out on a limb, I think.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I'm going to say Chris Johnson. Oh, well, you good, boy. You good. The answer is correct. Chris Johnson has 2,509 yards from scrimmage in 2009, most in NFL history. He really should have had the record because, remember remember they called his long run back against Seattle. They called Holden and he would have went over 2,100. Easily.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah, but yeah. You know, I think I know this. Most people probably would have said like Eric Dickerson, but ED didn't catch a whole lot of passes the year he went for 2,105. Because that was the same year Dan threw for 5,084 with 48 touchdowns. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Brother Mark Clayton. I'll never forget that. The Marks brothers. So, yeah, yeah. So I feel like, nah, E.D. didn't catch enough passes. Adrian Peterson was really not. Marshall Falk went 1,000, 1,000. Roger Craig went 1,000, 1,000.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yeah. But I was like, nah. I think I'd say yeah. All right. You should know this one. You should know this one. I know that one. Somebody trying to open my door. All right. You should know this one. This is a good one.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Because this is right up your alley. And I know your memory serves you well. You played in your first Super Bowl back in 1998. God damn you old. Broncos versus Packers in Super Bowl 32. Two. Who scored the first touchdown?
Starting point is 00:46:53 There's no way you get this wrong. Who scored the first touchdown in Super Bowl 32? For us or for them? For Green Bay. First touchdown, period. Okay. for us or for them for green bay first touchdown period okay uh i'm gonna say antonio freeman hey you cheating because you looking down man you looking down man you looking at something man ain't no way in hell you know this stuff man you do realize i played in the game oh nah man you looking at something, man. Come on, man. Hey, Ash, y'all over there giving the answers, man.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Nah, she ain't giving no answers. Do you think she want me to think I know everything? She hate it when I ask her to look at something and I go ahead and tell her the answer before she look it up. She just look at me and give me the easiest look. She would never give me the answer. I would never. Like, Ash, I need you to help me cheat on this. No, she gonna give me all wrong look. She would never give me the answer. I would never, like, Ash, I need you to help me cheat on this. No, she going to give me all wrong answers.
Starting point is 00:47:48 All right. All right. Antonio Freeman, 22-yard TD reception from Brett Favre in the first quarter. Obviously, your Broncos won the game 31-21. Yeah, it was at the back of the end zone because Steve hit him and he still held on to the ball. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yeah. All right. Okay. I know you're not going to get this one. Okay. I know you're not going to get this one. Okay. I know you're not going to get this one because this is just going to throw you off. Okay. Usher perform in this year's Super Bowl halftime show.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Which of the following artists have never performed at halftime? Mariah Carey. Madonna. Madonna did in Indianapolis. Or Black Eyed Peas. Black Eyed Peas have Mariah Carey. Man, they gave you the answers before we started this, man. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:48:48 How you know Mariah ain't never been in Super as many super bowls as it's been how you hear the oh joe the thing that you're going to learn that when you do tv if you get if you can unfortunately i hope you do um get back and learn your television you have to have tremendous recall because now now it's kind of moved away from just debate and it's more conversational. Right. But the thing that you have to do is that you have to hear what the, what one guy is saying. Now I've got a punch a hole in his argument while recalling all of my information that I have.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Right. And so you have to be able to remember stats. You have to be able to remember stats. You have to be able to remember dates. Remember, I told you we was my we was my grandfather's iPhone before there was a phone because they would give us he would like a tell them boys your number. And when he got home, hey, what was such a such number? What was this? What was that? And we had to remember it. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And he was big. He used to tell me and my brother all the times, he said,
Starting point is 00:49:46 if I take you somewhere, you should always be able to get back. So he would now my brother, that was my brother. I couldn't do it. Cause I'm sleep. We back at the driveway. I'm,
Starting point is 00:49:54 but not my brother. He would always take my brother. Cause I'd be sleeping at night. And a lot of times he would take my brother. Come on, spanky ride with me to the truck stop, get a cup of coffee, get some grits or something like that. You i said he uh um would eat get something to eat my
Starting point is 00:50:10 brother ain't really getting to get nothing to eat but oh so you do realize i was on jeopardy and i won right yeah you yeah you was on jeopardy but they they give you a heads up on what you might get asked on jeopardy they give they give you possible topics ah that you might get asked this is the thing if you got the if you have the possible topics you know the questions that that are going to be no i don't i don't be somewhere somewhere around in in the realm of what you're studying for oh joe do you know how many olympics that they've had do you know how many television series have been on yeah so they say tv series yeah you might get gun smoke you might get friends you might get martin right but you also might get bewitched
Starting point is 00:50:52 or some other stuff mod rota taxi yeah i'm ready for what you know what you know about taxi remember the movie taxi i do you talk about what you don't remember that was jodie foster i You talking about with J... You don't remember that with Jodie Foster. She was a young... I'm talking about the original taxi, man. The original taxi. With Jodie Foster? Yes, man. When they was battling the green cabs and the yellow cabs.
Starting point is 00:51:12 The green cab and the two twins. The two bodybuilder twins. Throwback. I think we talking about different things. Oh, so I'm talking about DC... No, I'm talking about...
Starting point is 00:51:23 I'm talking about DC cab. My bad. Oh, no. I thought you were talking about... I was like, ain't no talking about DC. No, I'm talking about DC Cab. My bad. Oh, no. I thought you were talking about, it's like, ain't no way you know about Jodie Foster. She got nominated for an Academy Award. Wait, Taxi is DC Cab.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Taxi? Yeah, I think the name of the movie is Taxi. It had the yellow cabs and the green cab. DC Cab. I don't remember. Which thing? I'm getting old. I'm getting old.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Jodie Foster? Chat, y'. I'm getting old. Jodie Foster? Chat, y'all remember that? Well, Jodie Foster got nominated for an Academy Award. I think she was like 14 or 15. She didn't win. She won for Silence of the Lambs with her and- She killed that Anthony Hopkins. Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yeah, yeah. You see how I came? See how I know my stuff? Yeah. See how I know my stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. O see how I came? See how I know my stuff? See how I know my stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was born in 68, man.
Starting point is 00:52:11 What you talking about I wasn't born? You were 76. You weren't born in those... I was like, hold on. I'm thinking to myself, bro. All these movies I know. All the movies I know. I seen all them. I seen all them. All the movies from back before I was born, from the 50s, 60s, 70s age, I can talk about all them all the movies from back before i was born from the 50s 60s 70s age i can talk about all them because like my grandma my grandma introduced me to all that so i can talk
Starting point is 00:52:31 about stuff before i was even alive like like movies you remember jack and a few good men a few good men yeah you can't handle the truth yes right when he said he's like and he asked him a question yeah and he says uh you want the truth he He says, I think I'm entitled to it. You want the truth. You can't handle the truth. And we live in a world that has walls and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's going to do it? You, you, Lieutenant Weinberg. I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You week for Santiago. You curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have
Starting point is 00:53:05 the luxury of not knowing what I know. Santiago, just while tragic, probably save lives. My appearance, grotesque and incomprehensible to you, save lives. You don't want the truth to be down in places that part of you don't talk about. You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like cold,
Starting point is 00:53:22 honor, loyalty. We use these words of a backbone spin defending something you use them as a punchline i haven't the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of freedom that i provide and then question the manner in which i provide it i'd rather you say thank you or pick a weapon to stand to post either way i don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. Did you order the cold red? I did my job. Did you order the cold red? You did all right, I did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I like that. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. I like that. That was beautiful. That was beautiful. You know, Jack hit that thing, man. He killed it. Method acting, getting in the character, being able to deliver in the heat of the moment
Starting point is 00:54:11 is why he is one of the greatest actors of all time. And that was nice, huh? That was nice. We got to get you in front of the big screen, man. Oh, I got tremendous recall. Ocho, when I tell people, I can tell you, my grandfather died when I was people, I can tell you my grandfather died when I was eight. I can tell you everything he ever said.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I can tell you my grandma lived until I was 43 years of age. I can tell you every time my grandmother's been upset at me. I can tell you why. I can tell you where I was. I can tell you exactly what I did. Every single time.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah, I have tremendous recall as well based on the situation and the circumstances and the outcome that it had. Most of the time, the outcome had to be negative. If the outcome was negative, I have tremendous recall. You know, that's just how, you know, things stick out to you much better that way. I'm not sure why it is, but that just that's just the way life is and the way the way it goes. Most of the part of things that I've done in life, I cannot recall. I cannot recall because it's normal for me.
Starting point is 00:55:09 It happens in a repetitive fashion, and I don't remember. The negative things, happy very seldom, which is why I'm able to recall them very, very clear like it just happened yesterday. Right. The Volume. you get your coffee. The show hits every single game every single week but I can't do it alone so I'm bringing in all the big guns from NFL media like Colleen Wolf. Subscribe today and you'll immediately
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