Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Reporter tries to BAIT Shedeur into SLAMMING Kevin Stefanski + Giants Wan’Dale Robinson joins NIGHTCAP + Joe Burrow RETURNING for CLASH vs Ravens + Geno gets BLASTED for FLICKING OFF Raider fans

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Shedeur Sanders comments on being sabatoged by Kevin Stefanski, Wan’Dale Robinson joins the show to talk about the Giants tough season thus far, and Joe Burrow explains why he’s playing on Thrusday and much more! 3:51 - Shedeur Sanders on Kevin Stefanski Sabotage criticism  23:15 - Sources say Jim Haslam ready to clean house in Cleveland26:09 - Wan’Dale Robinson joins the show42:10 - Joe Burrow to start vs Ravens 58:31 - Geno Smith apologizes to Raiders fans (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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in his first season. Oh, Joe, Joe, let's take a listen to what the young man had to say. Hey, Shishadar, not from you, but all your supporters out there say that Kevin Stefansky was sabotaging me. So you just want to start trouble, huh? No, I want to ask you what your relationship with him is. Yeah, well, what people do outside the building isn't really in my control, it's not in my power. So I don't, you know, like I go out there and tell them to do whatever, you know, that's, that's not nothing I can control or nothing I could do. But overall, you know, I'm just happy to be here.

Costa Fansky, you've been coaching since I got here, and you've been doing a very great job, you know, with everything that's going on. But what is your relationship like with him and when we don't see you guys together? Definitely like a coach. You know, he tells me what I need to do on and all. off the field. We've definitely grown. Our relationship and everything is grown. So I'm just thankful to be here. Hey, I'm, I'm, what the hell is the report of fishing for? I mean, well, you know what he's fishing for? Hey, listen. Hold on. Joe, I don't like that, Joe. Listen, the focus should be on him having his first, his second start going to the play the San Francisco

49 is what's the game plan or what's your thought going in to play them. World about the, this is business. This ain't about. friendship, hidden job as the coach, should do her job as to play. Simple as that. It didn't, that's asking a stupid question. It had nothing to do with the game of football. I think, hey, all right.

Go ahead, go ahead. Oh, Joe. I don't really think it was a stupid question. He asked, he asked the question that a lot of people out here want to know. A lot of people want to know, do Sifansky really mess with him like that? You know what I mean? Like, what's your relationship for real?

Hey, reporters have tough, they have a tough, job, bro. They got to ask the tough questions. You know what I mean? So I don't mind the question. Honestly, I'm just glad. It just depends on who he's asking it and are they mature enough to be able to talk around that question. I thought. Well, listen, if you

Joe and Uncle, if you listen to the answer, he talked around it. He didn't answer directly. Listen, he's my coach and he's been coaching me the way he should since I've been here. You already know how that coach feels about you based on the way he talks publicly and some of the things that he says because when they ask him a question about him,

He doesn't answer it directly either. He dances around the question that talks about the team collectively. That's what he does. I mean, we know how he feels about him. The reporter knows how most of the people in that organization feel about them, including the owner. So there's no need to ask that, just to fit for something, so you have something to write a goddamn headline about. In the environment moment.

You know, look, guys, you know, I kind of do a little bit more interviewing with club Shea, and with my previous job when I was at CBS, I used to go out on the road a lot to interview players. And I've always asked, you know, for me, I never wanted to become a part of the story. So, but I also, I was like, man, if somebody, I wonder what fans would really want to know if they had an opportunity to ask Tony Romo a question. If they got an opportunity to ask J.J. Watt a question. If they got an opportunity, what would they ask? So I always tried to ask a question or questions that fans would want to know. But I also understood that, you know, I got to keep this about football.

I'm going to, the first thing I'm like, okay, Shadour, you got your first start out the way you played, you know, you got the wind. Everybody seemed to be excited. What is your expectations going into your second start? You get a second week to practice. You get a second week to start with, you know, to go with the ones. The offensive line will have a better indication of your cadence. I would ask him questions like that. But I think because so many people have said that Kevin Stefanski has deliberately and purposefully tried to sabotage this young man's

development and its growth, it's hard for me to see that, I don't know how many, I don't know the pool of reporters, how many they got, oh, Joe. I mean, we would have, you know, 15, 20, 30 guys they're asking questions. It's hard for me to believe. He probably was the first one to get an opportunity to ask a question, but it's hard for me to believe that of those 25, 30 pool reporters that were there, not one person was going to ask about the relationship. Now, you look, he's mature enough because hell his dad, he's been in he's basically been in the spotlight because

of his dad. He understands that everything that he says is going to be scraped over with a fine tooth cone for the simple fact of his last name, Ocho and Joe. So he understands it. He's very mature. And he's been a quarterback, Ocho. You know Joe, and you know what quarterbacks do.

Yeah. Yeah. Think about how many times they ask coach, they ask Tom, or they asked Coach Belichick, and they kept it professional knowing Tom ain't really deal with him like that and he ain't really deal with Tom like that now it came out later but we already knew

we can see how they moved we can see how you move that give us a clear indication of what it's like but what did they expect them to say nah he ain't even off of me or to come over for dinner he had Dylan over to his house for dinner one night with him and his wife he didn't do that for me yet but I hopefully come I mean what did they expect him to say

I got a relationship I'm a player a first year player a rookie, he's a coach, and that's the extent of our relationship. I didn't expect it to be anything else. What, it's not his father? What's it like? And he says, both he and Shiloh.

When we're at practice, he's coached. When we're home, he's dad. Right. Well, it's full time with Stefanski. He's always going to be coach. So I don't really expect what they expected him to say. Yeah. All right.

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It seems like it's so infectious to his teammates. If you ask me, I think they got a great chance of winning the game because I think those guys play a little harder when he's out there. It's just my perspective on it. And the way he leaves, man, it just oozes confidence, I think, in everybody else. And they understand what they up against. And they understand the scrutiny that this young man is under. man, I got these guys coming out.

I think they're going to ball out, but I think he's going to be a lot more comfortable, and I think he's going to play a much better game. I agree. I think the thing is that when you're, what a young player that coaches always say, son, I just want to see you, I just want to see the improvement.

Down in and down out. Game in and game out. Practice it and practice out. That's the indication that you're starting to get it. Because I think the thing is that with Tennessee, Ocho, why they chose to go in a different direction from Will Levis is why, Ocho. He kept making it.

the same mistake over and over. Don't you come out here every week. Damn, son, he just chewed your ass out last week for making that dumb play and you come back and do the same dumb play again. Yeah. So one or two things, as coach used to say either one or two things, son,

you're not processing what I'm saying or you just, or my teaching is just effed up. Yeah. Or you just don't give an F. Because something is not computing. I'm telling you against this coverage, if you throw it late,

it's going to be trouble. And every time you do it, you throw it late against that coverage and the same thing happened. And it happened week after week after week. So something, there's something lost being lost in translation. Either the way I'm explaining it to you or the way you're receiving it. But we've got to get on the same page. And I think the thing is, which should doer, I believe he's smart enough and he understands that, look, he doesn't need to add any more pressure to himself. He understands, he said it.

Yeah, there are a lot of people. And there are. but there are a lot of people and do I think there are a lot of people that I want to see a lot of people fail yes but I think more I mean obviously if it's you're going against my team

oh my team hell yeah I want to see Ocho fail hell I want to see him catch the team catching for 200 yards against me fail yeah but there are people that don't even have a vested interest in it they're not Browns fans and the team that they root for aren't playing the Browns and they're just rooting against it

that's what I don't understand if I'm playing your team and you root against me that means you know what you think I can do something bad to your team I expect that but just to be like I don't want to see him do good he's entitled how

you know everybody going to have their opinion you know how that go Joe everybody going to have that opinion depending on who you are whether it be the last name whether it be his dad just everyone's going to have a reason not to like you there's certain things that you can't control as a player there's certain things that you don't need to worry about the thing that you can control you control that

what should do or can control is the outcome of that goddamn game and offensive. How well he plays. And how well he plays. For him, I just want to play. I want to play free. I want you to play like you back at Jackson State. I want you to play like you a goddamn Colorado with the understanding and commanded

offense and playing with that confidence, playing with extreme confidence, and everything else will take care of herself. As long as his offense, his supporting cast offensively, they got to play good. Judy, no more mistakes. Protecting the ball. Any deep balls, cover that thing up. If you got no, if you don't ran out of real estate. state, either go down and get your ass out of bounds.

Joku, you know, running back, junkers, I mean, all y'all have to play your part in order for him to have success. And I have, I really think they have a good chance to win the game. Not because of the offense and not because it should do, because of that goddamn defense. That damn defense.

Yeah. Oh, they are, man. All right, man. Man, man, and the boy's good, man. But I have all, Joe, I think a lot of time if you look at us, if we're not monolithic, but a lot of us that success, and the level we succeed, we came from impoverished conditions. Everybody didn't have a Steve Curry situation.

Everybody does not have a Peyton Manning situation. So I'm even more because we understood, look, I mean, Peyton Manning got a mom and a dad and dad played in the NFL and they're doing good. Steph Curry, his dad played in the NBA. But more times than not, they come up like a LeBron James. A lot of times, sometimes more times than not, they probably grandmother raised them. They come from broken homes. Here's Amanda, he said I grew up in a 30,000 square foot home.

I had every reason to kick my damn heels up and not have to worry about anything because I had a dad that was one of the greatest players to ever play in the NFL. But no, that's not what I wanted. I love that I have his last name, but I want to accomplish something for the Sanders that's outside of my dad.

So I have to tip my hat. But for him to be in that situation, I didn't have a choice. You know, and sometimes, I think like if I could have had, if I'd had everything just handed to me, would I still have that same desire, burning desire, and drive to accomplish what I accomplished?

Boy, look here, when you hungry at night, you're getting rained on at night. Boy, that's a hell of a motivating force. Different, different. A empty stomach and a weak in the back pocket. Boy, you're talking about some motivation, Oto? Yeah. Now throw a broken heart in there.

Ooh. Hey, I get it, man. Hey, look, I respect them too because of that reason, because of how he was raised, obviously, you know, being Dion's son growing up, you know, with more than. Like, it takes a lot, okay, Ocho, for guys to grow up like that and still inspiring to be the best. Yeah, so when I watch this young man play, I'm not going to lie, I'm rooting for him. every time he get out there on the field because I'm like, man, at any moment he could have been to me like, man, I'm done with all this.

But that man just keep, he keep his head down, his confidence is high, and he continue to work to improve. So it's a lot of people who do want to see him fail, Uncle Ocho, but I also see a lot of people who want to see him succeed too. Oh, you see it. Look at those Dominican baseball players. Look at the conditions they come up in. Man, they, hey, they're, they're, uh, uh, got rubber bands and band them all together.

and they're hitting with broomsticks and they play out there in the field and they got tires in spaces. You see? Yeah. Everybody ain't got a Ken Griffey Jr. Their dad played, mom and dad together.

Nice home and everything. Griffiths say, yeah, but I want to be something outside of my dad. Yes, I bear his last name, but I want to accomplish things on my own. That's always been really, really impressive to me. I love to see that.

I love that desire, Because a lot of times, you know, you get these trust funds kids and they're like, well, I'm good. So I'm not just saying professional athletes because there are a lot of people that have trust funds and they be great in business or they're, you know, their dad is a doctor and they want to become a doctor. Or they're a doctor or family's a lot and they continue that practice. So, but I just think it's really cool because we understand when you're in an impoverished condition and you want to improve upon that. But yeah, when your parents got really, really good money and you're like, well, you know what? I want my own. I want my own.

Yeah. And, oh, chose you, I had somebody looking. I had an older brother that went to, went to D1, went to the NFL. I'm looking around Joe. I'm thinking like, hey, he lived in the same house I did. He got rained on too. He ate possum and raccoon and all that. If he could go to the NFL, I can too.

Yeah, absolutely. How is he so special? How's he so much better than I am? And we ate the same food. We sat at the same table. We did exactly the same thing. So I had someone to pattern to look up to and look like, okay, I'm just going to follow you and see what you do.

Now, it's not like it is now, guys. You know, like now, you might bump into some, we weren't bumping to no professional athlete, no damn grocery store, Ocho. We're going to bump into no growth at the gas station or we out somewhere. We weren't going to see no professional athlete, Joe. Now you got somebody like, well, damn,

you could reach out and physically touch them. There were football camps and basketball. basketball camps that they have now. There wasn't none of that when we're coming up on Joe. The only thing I had to look up to, Uncle, especially the kids today, I mean, they have the resources. They have the outlets. I mean, obviously being able to see the players going to the players camps, that's one

thing. But back when I was growing up, I mean, Uncle, I mean, we ain't really no different. We bought the same goddamn age. Only thing I had, Joe, you know, to use me, use the motivation was posters. I had posters of, you know, I had posters of, oh, yeah. Of Mark Clayton and Mark Dubin on my wall, you know. My room was decorated with all the NFL flags with all the teams and the logo and you know watching watching TV of NFL teams in the 80s knowing that's maybe that's something I didn't actually know at a young age or something that I wanted to do but my grandma having me in football having me at Liberty City Optimus driving me to practice when I play for Miami Lakes Optimus got damn 30 40 minutes away every single day getting up and the sacrifices that she made and at some point even though I was young it became routine. And as it became routine, I started to understand the game and understand who was good at the game.

And then, okay, now, and it's, okay, Mark Duper and Mark Clayton, okay, wait a minute. But they got somebody named Jerry Rice. Now watching him, but God damn, I think I can do that. And I would love to achieve the greatness that he did. I might not get it. But if I don't get it, I might fall short, but I want to be really good at what he does. I want to make my mark. Yeah.

And hell, that's where my motivation came from because I didn't have nobody to look up to outside of those on TV. Exactly. You know, you see Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice was a brick. His dad was a bricklayer. Jerry Rice worked with his dad during the summers. But damn. I'm pouring concrete.

I'm laying asphalt. Hell. I'm working in fields. I mean, that was like the old black college guys, Ocho, the rich, the OG. Yeah. The first NFL players, that's how they did. Sharecroft, you look at the Willie Lanier's

and you look at all those old school guys. And I'm like, well, damn, they ain't much different than me. but it seems so far away to Ocho because I never saw any of these guys in person. Right. So all we could do is just watch them on television. Yeah, I had a Lab Bird poster

and a couple of posters hanging up. My grandma said, boy, get that issue off my wall. Back then, we didn't have no panel in Ocho. So we just had, we stick Scotch tape or electric tape or that, what they call that silver tape? Dump tape. Dump tape. Yeah, that duct tape.

We put that duct tape on them concrete brick. And that's ain't up there forever. That ain't up there forever. And so that's what, I was like, damn, man, that would be really, and you know, Ocho, you tell somebody you're going to go play in the NFL, you're from a small, man, you ain't going nowhere. Your ass going to be working at the fruit cake. You're going to be working at the Rotary Motor.

Or you're going to be doing what you do it right now. Cutting grass, landscaping, and doing all that other stuff. I'm going to show y'all. So for your door to live, to grow up, how he grew up, and to say, you know what, this is nice. but I want it for myself. Yeah. I think that says a lot about the young man.

Absolutely. It does. There are some people around the league that believe Brown's owner Jimmy Haslam is ready to clean house according to the athletic. Head coach Kevin Stefansky, GM Andrew Barry were both hired in 2020, and the team has only one playoff,

well, it's one, one playoff game in that span. They also haven't been able to figure out the quarterback situation. Well, you had the number one overall pick. You had Baker, you had, well, you, look, you hit it out in the part with Miles Garrett. You got a, you got a transcendent player. Yes. And you could hope, I mean, you look, if I get a number one overall pick, first of all, Ocho, you know what, and Joe, a number one overall pick, a number one overall pick, a number one overall pick, I'm supposed to be able to plug him in, and he's supposed to be a pro bowl player.

He's supposed to be a multiple time pro bowl player. Within his first three years, the number one overall pick, because the first round pick is supposed to be a pro bowl player. Yeah. Because that's what you said. I mean, you selected him in the first round. You're telling me, Ocho, he's a blue chip player, which means pro. The high up you select him, all pro. Yeah.

All decade. That's what that's supposed to mean. Yes. I think you had Baker. Odell and people like, well, he had, Odell wasn't the same player. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom.

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and Emeka, Ibuka, and those guys, and look at the running backs that he got. Is that what he had in Cleveland? Different, different. Thank you. Different. Yeah, totally different. What did you think, Joe?

You think they're going to clean house? It's probably about time, man. I mean, we're talking, we're going back 25, 30 years, talking about their quarterbacks, man. At some point, you got to, hey, man, you got to clean house start this thing over, see what we can. See, we can get off to a much better start.

I just think it's got to be something that's inside organization-wise that's got this franchise in this rut. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I think it is probably about time for him to clean house. You just got to hit that one player. Is it? You got to hit that quarterback. And the most important player you need to hit is the quarterback.

You got to get here with you. Listen, that changes everything. Look at the Texans. Look at the commanders. Hell, look at the Packers. The Packers have been lucky. Hell, they didn't have three quarterbacks in 30 years. Everybody can't be as fortunate as them.

Everybody can't. Right. No. They just can't. And once the Cleveland Browns figured out, regardless of who you fire or who you hire, if you ain't got no quarterback, you're going to be right back in the same goddamn situation regardless. Are we going to see? We're going to find out if Shador is that one that can be that transcending generational talent for you for the next 10 years.

And there's only one way to find out. He has to play. He has to get the reps. I agree. and the thing, look, what Green Bay, that's an anomaly, because you might not ever see that again in the quarterback, will one team have basically 40 to 50 years of prosperity at one position? That doesn't happen.

I don't know if it's ever happened. But if you look at the Patriots, the Patriots had a down. Then they get Drew Bledsoe. And then all of a sudden, the Moly Lewis happened to Bledsoe, and then they get Tom Brady. And they have, they have Mac Jones, but I thought Coach Belichick did him a disservice by getting people that's never called offensive plays

to be in his area to call offensive plays. Now what do they do? They get Drake May. So you talking about a situation where you might have, with exception of maybe three years, you might have another 10, 15 year stretch where in 40 years you've had three quarterbacks. That just goes to show you just how special that one player,

how transformational that one player is. Nobody can impact the game. game like him. Now maybe if you get a starting pitcher, we'll see. Oh, we got a guy joining us right now. Even though in a loss, he had four catches, 106 yards in the first quarter, the first giant receiver to clips, the century mark in the first quarter since Hakeem Nix did it in 2011. He finished the game with nine catches, a career high buck 56 with a touchdown on 17.3 yards per catch. Here he is Wondell Robinson. Wondell, how you doing, bro? No, boy. How y'all doing?

what's up what's so what's up how do you look obviously the season is not going the way you expected when you guys came together you thought you had

something special but it's not going that way how do you still go out there practice hard meet deliberate go out there and play your tail off even though you're like you know what

we're not going to the playoff there's not a whole lot to play for other than the name on the back of this jersey yeah I mean at the end of the day it's the love for all these guys

you know we've been together since the spring and you know we just want to go out there and get some wins under our belt we know that we're not a bad football team we've been in a lot of games um just got to finish just got to finish those games and um but yeah like i said just the love for that i have for all these guys um it makes it easy to go into work still each and every day um just going into work with all those guys hey how has it has it feel for you obviously the injury bug has hampered you guys a little bit skeptical going down malik neighbors went down earlier

earlier this year and and to be able to step up the way you do what is what does that feel like to be able to step up and show that you also can be a go-through target almost I mean those type of numbers you put up you know that this previous game those are number one numbers yeah those are number one numbers and that that that that that let everyone know every time you step on that field you're auditioning yeah how does that feel to be able to have a game like that to let people in that in that in that in that not stadium building in that building know that you can also be that guy too Yeah, I know. I mean, I just think it's the way that I work. I just try to come in to work each and every day with the same onset. Just practice hard. At the end of the day, always being available for our quarterbacks. And, you know, I've always felt like I've had the talent. I just needed some opportunities just to go out there and just do everything that I wanted to. I like it.

Hey, hey, Juan, Dale, what's up? What's happening? Man, I've seen, I seen you were nominated for the Art Rune Award, the Sportsmanship Award. What was that? mean, I mean to you, bro. I mean, I don't really know who is the one nominating everybody or whatever, but, I mean, I'll take it. I'll say, yeah, I'll take it. But, you know, I just try to treat the game the right way. I've been playing this game since I was five. And my dad taught me at a very young age. I mean, at the end of the day, it's, my mindset's to kill out there. But, you know, you still got to respect everybody that you're going against. And, you know, everybody's out there trying to feed their families, too. So, you know, just trying to respect everybody. But at the end of the day, I'm still trying to go out there and do what I got to do. Before the season started, did you set some personal goals? Obviously, we all have team goals. There's something we all want to achieve. When we go into training camp, the goal is obviously to get to the Lombardi and Reese's Super Bowl.

Do you have any individual goals that you set this season? I mean, more so it was just solidify myself as the best slot in the league. That was really the main thing at the beginning. Having to move outside a little bit more whenever Malik went down. So just had to expand my route tree and stuff like that. But I really wanted to solidify. myself there, you know, always being available on third down. That's really the big down

in this league, especially for a guy like me. You know, just always wanted to be open and just be there for our quarterbacks. And now, like that you just said, being able to go outside, wanting to solidify yourself as one of the best, better slot players, how has that transition been for you? Because, you know, that outside

that's a different animal. Yeah. You know, it's different out there. You got to be on your P's and Q's. You got to be able to dot your eyes and cross the T. because you know you on that island has that transition been for you you know being able to play not only on the inside but now having to force force your way and being able to play outside i mean it's been great i say really i just think it comes down to studying and uh figuring out the guys that

you'll be going against out there and you know using my strengths to my my advantage and um not really just not letting guys touch me that's really the big thing and um once guys i feel like they can't get their hands on me then it's just kind of wraps oh yeah that's the rap right right hey And who you model your game at you? I mean, coming out of, like, just like my whole life, I love Percy Harvin, Tabon, Anthony Thomas. Those are like my guys, just because, you know, they were smaller.

They did a little bit of everything. Percy wasn't, I wouldn't say the smallest, but he just did a little bit of everything out there on the field. So that those are the guys that I definitely used to always just look at, watch their highlights and stuff like that. I just want to be like me. Yeah. That's what's up.

In the game, you guys get the ball, you on the six-yard line. You're up. three you're like man we kick this field goal we go up six now they got to go all way down the field get a touchdown so what what do you think because I've been in a situation I'm like kick it kick it kick it punt it punt it you are hey I'm like come on man come on that yeah don't put it hey your job is don't cost us the game I'm not saying look don't cost us the game players don't know hey coaches but don't you do we work my ass off and then you have your your teammate he tweets something but then he

deletes it so what's your mindset in that situation are you like yeah coach let's go for it or what what were you thinking when you're like damn we going from on fourth and goal from the sixth i mean i mean i see both sides at the end of the day i mean it's kind of like like you said we kind of felt like you know the season's not going the way we wanted to so why not go ahead and um just trying to put the dagger into the game um i mean hindsight's always 20 20 if we would have got it i feel like everybody would have been like oh great call did da da da yeah um But then, obviously, we just, we didn't execute on that play. And I felt like the Lions, they had a really good call for what we were going to do.

But, I mean, I'm all for it going forward on fourth down. I mean, I think our coach had ultimate confidence in us going forward. And, you know, we were just able to move in the ball well, the whole entire game. And, you know, just wanted to go out there and score a touchdown and just try to put the end of the game right there. Did you tell James, throw it to me or throw it out of bounds? I'm going to, hey, throw it to me or throw it out of bounds. I'm just saying, hey, hey, that's between you. me and you and they got to go no further from my mouth to your ears.

Throw it to me or throw it out of bounds. No, I ain't going to, I'm never going to tell our quarterbacks where they got to go. I trust the old man. I mean, I think they have the ultimate trust and all the other guys around us, too. That play actually, the back three kind of cut me off on the drag route. So I was kind of dead on that one. So I was a little sick off of that. Tell us about adjusting your game to three different quarterbacks.

You start the season with Russ. and then you get and then you get Jackson and then now you have James and it's different. Different quarterbacks have different tendencies. They react differently and so you have to adjust your game to say quarterback. You just can't grow out here. Well,

this is what I do. Well, if that's what you do, you're not going to get the ball. Because I'm trying to get the ball. I don't know what y'all are trying to do, but I'm trying to get the ball. Yeah, me too. I mean, I think that's why I always try to stay around our quarterbacks just figuring out the things that they like what spots they need me in in,

in certain spots. And I think with Russ, obviously, you know, that deep ball was the bread and butter with him. And, you know, just always being ready to go attack the football whenever the ball was in the air. And then Jackson, you know, he's a little bit more mobile than the other two. And you've got to be ready during scramble drill. So he's always going to be able to break the pocket and get some big plays off of that. That's where I definitely think me and him have connected well is whenever he's kind of broken the play down and then I just kind of figure out where he's at.

and we kind of find each other and go from there. James, you know, he's a gunslinger. He's going to give you a chance, no matter what. If he sees man and he likes his matchup, he's going right to you. And you'll give you a chance. Yeah. Hey, would you be in a slot receiver? One of the best things you have to have, you have to have lateral movement,

you have to have quickness. You've got to have footwork. The number one thing is route running. You got to be able to run routes. Especially in tight spaces to being able to manipulate whatever it is in front of you if you had to pick your five top route runners

of all time now that you've been playing who would they be all time yeah yeah we're not just talking you're not just you talking about just you talking about just slot or you're talking about overall receivers route run just route running because when we talk about route running there's a completely different category

as opposed to just saying top receivers I would definitely say all right let's go Jerry got to give that one up um a b i know i know that a lot of people don't like but hey that he can he can route everything you know julio i think he was the one that started just you know that head down and just making everything look like a go um and then shoot i'll get we'll get some newer guys um i love saint i love saint brown i was watching him

um he's always doing his thing um who's our last one we didn't want to give it to i'm give it to my boy league that's that's that's that's my guy right there he I was seeing some stuff with him that he does, and it's like, yeah, this guy got it. Yeah. I like it. That's a nice list you got there, man. Yeah.

Because I thought Ocho was there because you were in the slot and you were going to go slot receivers, but Ocho took it overall. Yeah. See, and that boy, Ocho got, and every time I see clips, anybody miced up, it's like they can't put their hands on it. And so, but, you know, I say,

I was going outside the box here. there was some different names that people brought. Yeah, I appreciate. Listen, I'm in the class of my own. I'm the greatest rock one of all time. There you go. You don't have to mention me. It's okay.

It's okay. Look, you got to face some adversity this. I mean, you had, I think you said the NFL record, five double-digit leads, and you end up losing the game. How do you correct that? Because it's not like you guys are getting blown out from the jump, and you're never in the game. You're leading the game.

I mean, DeBronco's situation, they score 30. 33 points and like that you're like how we how do we let this game slip away how do we let the Detroit game slip away how do we let I mean you had New Orleans there to write and then a couple of turnovers and that goes hey why yeah what's going through your mind when you're like oh man and next thing you're like damn here we go again

honestly man it's just be feeling like a movie sometimes it's like it's just really happening right here but you know I mean sometimes it's just like hey we we played a part in it our defense has had some mishaps and stuff like that so it's just it's on all of us you know we we just got to come together and figure out a way to finish these games been very tough for you guys your head coach got dismissed scatterbow out for the season yeah you get uh uh malik neighbors out for the season you get jackson dart his situation with the concussions he's out don't know if he's

going to um he's going to play this week but somehow you guys still a you go out there and you fight hard like i said you guys haven't been blown out which tells me you guys are still fighting you got you have the making you have the makeup of guys you have the right guys pulled together but you got to just got to finish it so how difficult has it been the adversity because a lot of teams don't have to go through the adversity that you guys have gone through this year yeah i mean like you said it's been it's been difficult but um we like you said we come into work each and every week ready to go um believing that we're going to go out there and win that game. I feel like that's why we're

in a lot of games. You know, we believe that we can win and we can play with anybody. So you know, just kind of having to change that mindset of practice and making sure that we're finishing all the way through at the end of everything that we do, just to make sure that we get the outcomes that we want.

I know Jackson Dart played baseball. Tell them to go steal second base and slide. You're not going to make no living. You're not going to make a living, Wendell. Run it over and try to run over DBEs and try to run over lineback as a lineman. Man, that's just how he's built. He's like, man, I feel like I'm a running back

whenever you get that ball. I'm like, look, you get down. No. But we're going to be all right. I promise you get as many yards as you need to and it's a slide. That's what I told. I said, look, he forgot.

He was like, oh, I'm a quarterback and then he got outside the pocket. No, I'm Derek Henry. No, you not. No, you not. Yeah, that's what I mean. Because both of the team, New York team, Look, the Jets have been bad for a while,

but we know you guys got four Super Bowls. And when the Giants are winning, the vibe is just like there's a different type of vibe. The Knicks are winning. Even though they didn't get to the NBA, it didn't get to their championship. But when the Giants are playing really well, man, New York is a different type of vibe because, look,

I know they like the Giants and Long Island and all that stuff. I mean, excuse me, the Jets. But New York is really a giant city. Yeah, I mean, it's like you said, it's the Giants. I witnessed in my rookie. You're going to the playoffs. It just feels a whole lot different up here whenever we're winning.

And I want to be part of the reason that we get this thing back right. And, you know, people can be happy to come to our games. And, you know, like you said, it would feel a little different around here. Right. Hey, anything else, guys? You got anything else on Joe, Joe? Yeah, I got some. Hey, tell us something, man.

We get cast on here and we try to find out some hidden talents. You got any hidden talents? I'm just a gamer. So that's about all I do is play. Whoa, whoa, what kind of game? What are we talking about? I say, really, with the big one I've been on, I'm on the ultimate team with college football.

So anybody, you want Xbox. See, y'all. Listen, PlayStation. Right here. Listen, Xbox and PS5. That's why they made everything crossplay. They made everything crossplay. Whenever you want.

I see you big on FIFA. I used to play people a lot, but none of my teammates. I haven't had to me teammates at play, so I stopped playing. No, okay. Hey, you can get their work, though. Like, I play their, I play their, Hey, what y'all trying to play? We can play.

Hey, play me in college football. I'll spot you 14. Don't, you don't want to do that. This is me. I'm telling you, you don't want to do that. Man, this. Record online is like something in like 640. Wait, do you understand who you're talking to?

I do. I do. Like, that's what I do. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, I got it. Oh, Joe, that boy playing, hey, that boy on that video game, Ocho, that big, hey. This is all I've been doing the past 40 years. He wasn't even born when I was gaming, Joe.

Right, come home, man. Joe, this is what I do, Joe. All right, I got you. Who do the rating for Madden? Don't you? Yeah, you get, that's right. That just me. Actually, you know what?

I knew you're going to check my Madden rating. I obviously. Hey, you know what? Matter of fact, tell me. You got to get that. You got to get that up. And listen, after last week, I'll go in there internally and changing. You tell me what you want to be.

I go in there my self-a-chaid. If I get fired, I don't even care because that shit is impressive. Yes, sir. No, yeah. All right. Hey, hey, Wanda, he ain't that good on those sticks. Don't let him fool you.

He's trying to be good. He's not. He's not way to shoot pool. He's way he can be good on FIFA. Cod. Mad, he's where he can play all them games. He ain't like that. Listen, my reputation is known

very well in the gaming world. Don't listen to Aunt. He'd be trying to talk about the game, Wadde. I'm happy to get back on FIFA for you. I'm happy to get back on the game. FIFA. All right. All right. Well, Wondell, stay healthy

the rest of the season. Although the season hasn't gone the way you had hoped, you still finish out strong. Stay healthy, stay focused, and good luck the rest of the season. No, I appreciate y'all. Appreciate you coming on. Thank you, bro. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Ocho, Joe, Joe Burrow was asked about

his mentality on why he still wants to play, despite the Bengals being three and eight. Ocho, let's take a listen to what Joey B had to say. Yeah. You understand. Yes, I understand why people feel that way, but if you look at it from my perspective, I'm a football player, and if I get hurt, I'm going to go through the rehab process, and then I'm going to let everybody know when I feel like I can go out there and play. I don't really know what else to say about that. I'm not going to ever go to somebody and say, yeah, I'm healthy, but, you know, I don't think,

I don't think I should go out there and play it. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'm not going to live my life and play this game scared of something happening. Like, yeah, something's going to happen. That's football. Guys are going to get hurt. Guys are going to get concussions. You're going to break bones, tear ligaments.

It's a physical, intense game. that's that's part of this and yeah i've had injuries um it's not a lot i can do about that i work really hard to have that not happen but what i can do is when it does happen i can control how i'm attacking my rehab and attacking practice and doing everything my power to get back as quickly as possible um that's what i did yeah that's that's my quarterback that's quarterback number one hey joe you heard him joe that's my quarterback yeah yeah i don't care that we losing i don't care that we three and eight or three and nine whatever may be i'm a competitor certain things are out of my control i play a very barbaric sport i play a barbaric sport and the chances of getting hurt

not that the chances are very high when you play this game some some players have been fortunate to be able to play it for a very long time with no injuries but everybody is not afforded that luxury therefore when injuries do happen What I'm going to do? I'm attacked rehab and therapy the way I should so I can get back as fast as possible because I'm a competitor. I'm a football player. They're paying me a lot of money to do one thing.

Compete and play football and lead my team to wins. Sometimes the wins don't turn out, but even those losses, you take those, you study for them, get back to the drawing board, and you try the next week. And you know what's going to happen on? Hey, Joe, you know what's going to happen, Joe? Y'all will lose tomorrow. Y'all won't keep this trend going. My flight is 8 o'clock of the morning,

and I'm flying to Baltimore, Maryland. You hear me? And I'm going to be in M&T Bank Stadium tomorrow, 8 o'clock. Okay, Joe Burrow is going to be the starting quarterback. Joe, you know what we're going to do? What are we going to do? We're going to put BTA, belt the ass. You hear me?

No, I'm telling you, Joe. Stop it. Yeah, I'm going to go in Baltimore and put on the show. Man, Joe Burrow coming back, boy, and we got Uno back. What you talk about? Hey, hey, hold on. Listen to me, hey, oh, you know who else playing tomorrow? Getting a little bit more reps because T. Higgins out?

Mitchell Tinsley. Yeah, A-82, Joe. If he ain't watched 82, he's been making plays since the goddamn free season. Everything is a highlight catch like this. What we're talking about? So the opportunity to present itself, he ready. Hey, you know, Joe, we can still make the playoff, Joe, right? Now, it'll be a difficult task.

It'll be a tough task. Hey, Joe, listen, all we got to do, win the division. Boy, if we win this goddamn game tomorrow night, Hey, the ship is on. You hear me? Hey, the ship is on. Hey, remember the show, uh, what's a little midget? You just say, the plane, de plane, de plane, de plain, de plain.

What show is, uh, fantasy island, huh? Fantasy Island. And to make sure we don't get in trouble, he meant little person. Oh, my bad. Right. What I said wrong? You called him the M word, which they say is derogatory. So we want to make sure we stay in compliance.

How is a derogatory and it's in the goddamn dictionary? It's in a dictionary. I'm just saying they don't want to be called that word. They want to be referred to as little people or a little person. Oh, is that something new? No, it's been in effect for about the last 15, 20 years. Oh, my bad, my bad. I don't mean defending any of the little people.

My bad. Yes. Okay, okay, okay. His name on the show was tattoo. His real name was Hurts Village. Ah, then you know a name and all. But you watched Fantasy Island, too? I did watch Fantasy Island.

No, you remember Fantasy Island? No, I don't know. Oh, you ain't had on TV, huh? Cheer, cheer, cheer, I'm just asking, you know, I don't know how to do it. Hey, listen, hey, look, okay, Ocho, hey, look, I respect Joe Burrow for wanting to get out there and play. You know, obviously, I think we all know the money that he makes, but at the same time, you know, when we first started playing these, this kid game when we were younger, football, basketball. I think we all pretty much played this sport. And it gave us, I want to say, a sense of freedom from anything you was going through, right?

you know so now he's he's dealt with these injuries the most fun he probably have is when he's out there on the field. Yeah. I think he's really trying to get that feeling back. He's trying to rekindle that feeling outside of what he makes or outside what they can do as a team, whether they can make

the playoffs or not. I think he just want the guys to know that, you know, he's there for him, man, and that he wants to make this thing, right? And if they can make the playoffs, Ocho, obviously he wants to be out there and lead their charge. So I respect. We get a paycheck. And the paycheck. And the

Paycheck don't say, well, if you're potentially out of the playoffs, you can stop playing. Yes. Right, right. We collect, we sign up, like, okay, we get hurt during the season. If at any point in time, we can come back. Now, they might decide to say, no, we're going to sit you down. But you do everything you possibly can to get back. When I broke my collarbone, Ocho, they didn't put me on our arm because they say,

well, what do you want? I say, well, give me a chance. Let me see if I can rehab and come back. Right. We started the season, O and four, and by the time I got, but I think we probably end up winning like four or five games. Right. No, no, that's not what I said.

I didn't sign up for just to play in good times or we winning. Right. I signed up to play football. Yes. And it doesn't matter the record. If I got hurt at some point early the season and I was fortunate enough

to be able to come back, I wanted to come back and play. And I did. I dislocated my elbow. Hey, I came back and played. Right. We didn't make the playoff. We almost, we lost,

I think we ended up, we should have beat the Jets. But anyway, that's another story But no, I have no problem And I was joking on your like, man, why that man coming back But I get why he's coming back Because he's a competitor That's what we do, we compete

Yeah What do I look like? I'm healthy as hell With six games to go And they out there fighting Huh? Yeah Nah, no

A real competitor A real competitor can't sit back in Washington No, you can't Yeah And that's not what we signed up if we can play we play in a lot of time think about the stuff that we play through now he's you know he's coming off an injury he's been out what nine 10 weeks but he's healthy and he's going to play he wants to play they want him to play and if they have Ocho if what you're saying

is true for them to have any chance of making a run he's got to be at the helm he's got a captain the ship yeah yeah and one thing about our captain huh one thing about our captain um one thing about that captain. Yeah. Huh? Joe, Joe Sparrow. That's who it is. Joe Sparrow. Huh? But okay, I know you. Yeah, Joe, Joe, Joe Sparrow. That's what it's going to be tomorrow. Oh, Pirates of the Caribbean. Huh? Yes, we're from the captain. We're for the captain in this tomorrow. Okay, okay, okay. I see. I know we got Ravens fans in the chat. You know what all do respect. You know, I love y'all. I do everything, you know, with grace. And I always, always appreciate y'all and show y'all love. But tomorrow night at 8 o'clock when it kicks off

at A-15, when the clock hit, when it get about 10, 10-05, I don't want to hear no crying. Don't be coming here, making no excuses, talking about the rest, no talk about we cheated, or we can't stop Joe, you can't stop Chase. I'm telling you, it's going to be B-T-8, huh? Let's go. I already know Derek Henry, Derek here about to have 150. Oh, who? Y'all saw our ass.

Man, listen. Hey, Demetia's night, you hear me? Remember that name? Hey, Joe, remember that? Oh, he had the top of the leaderboard and missed tackles. Hold on. Y'all got five guys in the top ten and missed tackles. Both your middle linebackers and your safety.

What position Geno Stone play? What position Stone play? Hey, he plays safety. What position he play? I'm asking you a question. Jordan Battle is leading the bangles and tackles. Okay. Don't worry about Geno, Jay.

Don't worry about Geno Stone. He's going to get a pick and take it to the house. I ask you a simple question. What position does he play? Safety. Okay. Y'all got five guys in the top 10 and miss tackles. That might explain why you're doing.

defense is good and terrible okay okay both your middle line both your linebackers in the top three hey but that ain't none of my business joe i don't even know why i brought it up i apologize you know what everything is week to week all them stats don't matter all them stats don't matter week to week this a new game this a new week so you talk about you talk about stats that happen y'all lost last week y'all lost the week before that the week before that it's a new week this is a division game a division game with most of the time you know it's y'all lost a bunch of them it's close well listen at some point we got to win why not tomorrow huh no thanksgiving you ain't no you don't got to oh no we oh we fin to win the washington the washington the uh uh uh the national

who's that the washington generals didn't win hall and glows try to beat them every time they lost 8000 consecutive games so you ain't got to win all right you're going to see you know what and you're talking real spicy on you're talking real spicy on you're talking The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Look at all of them games they lost. Keep that same energy. Keep that same energy with me on the show tomorrow night. Oh, they ain't going nowhere.

I have my Ravens Hill, but I'm worried. Yeah, there it is right there. I'm worried about it. I should have Shelly, had Shelly. You know, I'm going to have Shelly ship my Raven shoes up here. Yeah, had that same. I'm excited. I can't wait.

And it's going to be like 30 degree, Joe. You know, it's going to be like 30 degree Joe. I'm going to be on the sidelines. You know, get cold. Yeah. All right, it gets cold in Baltimore and in Cincinnati, so I don't know how the weather going to impact anybody. Man, man, what, what time them boys play?

What time? Oh, y'all got the, uh, afternoon game. What, what, what time? What, one or two? Uh, four, like four, 30. Okay, okay. Well, who the first game? Detroit, Detroit, Detroit, Green Bay.

Okay. Yeah. Okay, I'm excited. I can't wait. I can't wait. Me too. You can wait. I mean, baby, when you're, when your,

when your mom, I told you're going to tell your ass if you're like oh I can't wait to get that you like y'all can wait well you can wait that ass cutting sound good but I mean hey ready to exactly what you're looking for and you doing all that talking like you're going to be on the field you ain't going to be out there to help them yeah you don't need me and you're not and you're not going to be at there to stop chase you're not going to be at there y'all ain't nobody going to be out there watch oh I can't bad big king Henry be coming down here stop who king Henry the only person that's going to do something is

eight the only person that gonna do something for y'all is oh zay zay going for a hundred man man hey what hey so you said you said you said you said Derek Henry ain't gonna have a hundred yards tomorrow smack Derek Henry in his head man we man we we don't we don't even see that you hear me

we don't we don't even see that we don't even see it we standing on business man if you talk about you stay on a lot I know it I know it and listen I'm I'm doing this trash talking out of respect and love i'm not being malicious i'm not being disrespectful i'm just trying to let raven's fans know what's going to happen tomorrow night we already know what's

happened every time lamar jackson played the ravens al for the l for the bingles yeah all right keep that you want to bet none i don't because you already ohby let me let me get that i told you christmas time hey unc you're so impatient it's been two years hey joe unk worked than Sally May. Sally May been waiting on people to pay them goddamn loans for years. He talked about, you know, they're little $5,900. I got you. You know what I'm doing with it, Joe?

I'm going to send it to collections. I'm going to let them deal with it. So when you credit, when you credit 505? Right. Oh, man. Hey, don't do that to you. Don't do that too. I'm saying collection.

I mean, I'm tired of, man. I mean, I should not have to beg this man, chat. Y'all think I should have to beg this man about my money. You're not even begging. He's going to give me. my money on Christmas that's a good that's a good gift what I'm just trying to figure out chat you go to work your boss say you know what I ain't going to pay you I'm just going to give you a bonus no no no no no day I work I want my paycheck and I want it on top of a bonus

no my paycheck ain't no bonus what they do that in you know what just said in the collection I'll let them deal with it I got you though you're my dog man you're no no I'm tired I'm tired. I can't. Hey, the more people say, I can't go no further. I can't go no further, chat. Hey, Joe, I'm saying that crazy, chat.

This man going to give me my money as a Christmas gift. It's a Merry Christmas. Hey, what, dude, Joe, what is the holidays for? What is Christmas about? Christmas is all about giving. It's all about giving. You can't give me my own money. No, I owe you.

That's like shooting dice. You had to, Joe, when you gamble. and some of you rolling dice you can't lend somebody money and then he's going to tell about I got to fade no no if you don't right you ain't fit to save me with my money hey what they do that at you got to understand Joe like I had I had personal things I was taking care of you know I'm trying to try to trying to make this this house a home I'm trying to you know doing the kids rooms and try paying tuition but my daughter going to nurse school at University of Miami my daughter you know she's running track you

know my son I got my son in high school you know I know I'm just I'm I'm I'm I got so many, hey, Joe, I got so many different moving parts. I'm finished the pool. Now, I'm putting, I'm putting the, you know, I'm doing the stairs now, right, you know, I'm doing it. You say you finish, you say, you finish the pool? Yeah, I'm just, I'm just tight. How that's how Joe to you?

Oh, Joe, oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. I, you know, I normally don't get in, no, I don't get a full business about their money and what they got going. I don't do all that. They ain't what I do. But, boy, you, hey, you're taking care of a lot of stuff, and that man ain't trying to hear.

here that he wanted he won't get it i want to do my pool too i want to do something to my hey joe i know i got i got i got no i got a look i got a few jobs and a few gigs but i get a little a little a little a little nice little lump sum from a bunch of jobs right before christmas and i'm like okay boom i got enough to jail here here my money here i tell you what i tell you what else go get a lump your head if my money in here in a week a week yeah no christmas in two weeks huh no ain't a christmas they don't know too much what's the day today Joe the day the day to 26 oh shoot well we got oh we got about another 20 days on you know tomorrow we got a month oh joe yeah tomorrow thanksgiving joe but i'm giving thanks

i'm giving thanks at mn t bank stadium you know and i'm and we're gonna get a raven's thanks thank you for having us thank you for inviting us everybody everybody play for the raven for to be turkey tomorrow you hear me oh yeah oh joe you know yo hey i'm gonna be watching the fact that you think Joe Burrough from to come back and lose that's the funny part about it that's the funny part how could you count us out if nine back shysty coming back man what is you talking about just like I counted y'all out before just like last year I counted you out and I told you what was going to happen I'm going to continue to count you out guess what this season's a wrap we was hey Ocho we spoke about this uh Joe you weren't here but we spoke about the incident

with Gino Smith flipped off the radar face as he was running up the field. Today, Gino spoke about the incident. Let's take a listen to what Gino had to say. Gina, there was an incident after the game on Sunday. Dooms or anything that you ought to say about that? Yeah, for sure. You know, first of all, I would like to apologize,

obviously, to the fans, to the fan base of Raider Nation. You know, I made a poor judgment out of frustration. And, you know, that's not an excuse. So I've got to be better than that. And I've got to hold myself to a higher standard. And in that moment, I didn't, you know, I'm sincerely apologetic and, you know, very sorry for, obviously, for doing that. And, you know, I just want to, you know, make it known that those things will never happen for me again. Hey, that's tough.

That's real tough, especially when things aren't going well. You have your fans booing. You put in all that work and practice, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, meetings, you know, hours and hours and hours. It would be that bad. They ain't practicing. And things don't go right. then you got some fans booing you and you know you're frustrated you're the office thing i mean every ain't nothing working on ain't nothing working and you got them

booing you walking off the field and again like you say when emotions are high on what logic is like i'm low baby it's low i mean to be that bad you ain't you ain't practicing unless you practicing to be that bad you seen the ratings play no no hey come on i think the thing is look For me, booed, look, I've been in Demmer, they booed us. When you're not good, when you're not playing well, even if you're at home, you expect to get booed on, first of all, it's easy on the road

because there's an expectation that you're going to get boozed. But if you don't play well at home, they're not fit to let you keep going out there drive after drive, Ocho's staking it up. They're going to boot. Yeah, you're right. They're going to boo. Now, the Raiders, it ain't drive after drive.

It's game after game. Y'all have stunk up the building. Mm-hmm. give them something to cheer about right and I get it like you said it's a situation everybody's frustrated we're not playing well

they've already fired the O.C there's going to be a lot more people that's going to probably end up getting fired yeah um but man people still it's rough over there I can't remember last time I flipped somebody off

I mean I probably had to be in like junior high people still do that Yeah, I don't, depending on who you are. Let's ask. I mean, I got ash. I'll be asked with my first slip off at like years, like 25, 30 years. She deserved it. Hey, hey, when you get emotional, man, you know, it has a tendency to take over, you know what I mean?

Oh, yeah. But that ain't really never been my go-to. That ain't never been my fame. You know, like, when you're coming up in school and, you know, you flip somebody off and that was my fan. Now, have I said your mama a couple of times? Yeah. I tell you, man, I got the fire slapped out of me one time. I said something.

I was talking. We used in the field working. And, man, I was, I said, this girl said something. I said, your mama. And the girl standing next to me. Wow, slapped me. Ish out of me. I said her mama.

She said, we got the same damn mama. Yeah. That was the. And that was the last time I said that. Yeah. But, yeah, look, I think, look, he addressed it. Today was the first day back. Probably he should have addressed it Sunday night

because when it French happened, Ocho, let everybody know, hey, look, there was an incident that happened when I ran off the field. I want to apologize to the fans. Raider Nation, that's, you know, my emotions got the best of me, and I want to apologize. You know, like you said, Ocho, you know sometimes you get in a situation you don't really know how you react until you in said situation yes sir it's easy to say from afar I wouldn't do this or I wouldn't do that

you don't really know what you will or won't do until you're in that very very situation you know people like man I wouldn't eat that well you say that having the the luxury of having a choice of what to eat but guess you what when you don't have a choice you got a choice to eat raccoon to eat nothing guess what you're going to choose you got a choice to eat rabbit or nothing squirrel or nothing buying a sausage or nothing turtle or nothing those is that that's your choice joe that or nothing guess what you're going to choose every time yeah i mean i mean the seven yeah you think i didn't want like my homeboy said you think i didn't want no quarter-house steaks you think i didn't want no chicken no lamb chops of course i did oh yeah

that what happened now the only thing i wasn't going to be eating with no chitlins Men's banking eating corn flakes. And my grandma going to say, because, you know, we got the big old box of cornflakes on to show the box like this big. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ready to eat all that serious if you want to for the weekend.

I still don't understand. I still don't understand. You can eat raccoon, you can eat possum, but you're scared you won't eat no chillings? No, you know, I don't want to know. I just don't understand, huh? I just don't get by the smell, bro. It's the smell.

You can't get past the smell. What do you mean? You can't get past the spare. It depends on who's making the chillings. If they know how to clean them the right way, you'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't no matter who. Well, hey, what, you eat chillings?

Me? Why I eat everything? What you're talking about? Do I eat chilling? I know you eat everything from the root of the two. Mayling the tutor on somebody that walk on two feet and walk. Come on. Dr. Tudor, he'd be eating.

Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, y'all. Come on, yeah. Oh, Joe, you eat groceries? Do you eat grosses? Do you eat gross. Do you eat no ant, Joe? No, Joe, you ain't no bad, Joe, you, come on, you be bad. Thank you.

Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe from the old guard. Oh Joe from the old guard. Joe, no, Joe, I did amateur porn back in the day and I used to be a stripper. So what you expect for me, Joe? What you expect? I mean, Joe, I mean, the man kind of got a point. Cause you know, you in the front,

you right around the corner, you might as well drop in, slip in the tongue ain't nobody fault. Hey, y'all, y'all, y'all acting sassy on here like y'all, Like y'all, they never did that, though. I'm gonna see, I'm gonna let y'all slide. I'm gonna let y'all slide, don't do that. Hey, hey, hey, I ain't gonna tell no lie to you because of sound fly to you.

Y'all, I'm keeping it 100. Yeah, I ain't, no. Ocho, we're good. Ohcho, everybody ain't gotta do that and everybody don't want that done to him. Listen, listen, listen. Sometimes that's about what you're doing back to come on from back there.

None, like y'all, and y'all acting like rookies, man. Y'all ain't about rookie, Ocho. Hey, hold on, listen to me. I want to know who started that. That's what I want to know. I want to know who the first man to do that. Adam?

What you think Adam and Eve did, man? What you talking about? That wasn't even going to be somebody like, you know what to be good? I'm going to get really freaking a night. I tell you what, when I get to help, when I get to heaven, I'm tea off only. Hey, do me in favor, man.

Listen, it's a new year coming up, right, Joe? Hey, it's a new year coming up. Yeah. I'm going to send y'all my YouTube tutorial, man. On stuff y'all could try that you haven't tried on your partners, man. just spice up relationship a little bit man god damn that y'all tripping man what i'm joe whatever happened to a nice dinner whatever happened to sitting by the

that's what i'm saying and how the lights go and playing some nice music when did it have when do we go to when do we graduate to that what you do you y'all y'all talk about stuff way back from the 50 and 60s man it's 2025 man ain't nobody going for that no more come on man you got to grab it by a hell man flip upside down girl where's you go

come on man well I tell you what oh too I give a lick and a promise I give a lick today and promise I'm gonna do better tomorrow baby that's all I got that's all I got Joe come on Joe

hey y'all you're disappointing me man God I'm sorry you disappointing me I'm living I'm living ohcho Hey, I know, Joe, you alive. Both of y'all, y'all are alive, but you ain't living.

There's a difference. There's a difference in being alive and actually living. You ain't living until you experience some of the things you refuse to do because all y'all stuck in the box. Get outside the box. There's so much more out there for you. Yeah, I'll be stuck in the box, but you eat in the box. Yeah.

All right. You know, it is, see, y'all acting like kids now, man. Come on, man. Oh, Joe. I'm sure there's some nice women out there that don't want that done to her. Joe, I mean, it ain't NAM one. It ain't now.

It is. No, it ain't. It ain't. It ain't none out there. Chat. I believe it is. I believe it is. You know, I'm spoken for.

So I don't know what's out there. I know my home. You hear me? Oh, we already know. Hey, hey, no, game. We already know what you do. Long as you know. Yes.

We already know you, hey. Again, listen. You'll strike a wildcat. Hey, like the Tasmanian devil. I'm saying, that's bad. Y'all need to, y'all need to open up your palate. Open up your paddle a little bit, man. You know, y'all is, y'all.

Everything ain't meant to be eating. What do you think God put it down here for? That for that. Yeah, it didn't. Just because they say ex, it don't mean you can't in her. Man, you put that baby D over? That what they call that tongue in the side of that baby D? Joe, he'll put the baby D over.

So that's how you get them to fall for you? Nah, no, no, no. That's how they fall. That's how he get them. Because if you notice, that one thing about my, one thing about my partner. and co-host the Liberty City legend the bingo ring of fame

Monterrey the man ready to adjust him he go, hey ever since I've known him he's gonna keep a bad one on him now my whole boy I ain't seen it with nothing less to the 12

yeah let me tell you let me tell you something that ain't got nothing to do with that the fact they the fact that I look like a goddamn a mandingo warrior you know I look like I belong

in the cover of GQ you know see y'all see me in my bummy state You got to see me with a time. Tongue that long, Joe. They call him lizard. Oh, here we go. Come on, man.

Yeah, they call him lizard. Nah, they ain't got nothing to do with it. Nah, Ocho. I mean, some thing, Ocho, you just got to say, you know what, hey, got to draw the line somewhere, Ocho. Now, listen, when you draw lines, it's supposed to be in the goddamn sand. That's it.

That's the only place that's supposed to be drawn. And don't cross it. It don't cross this line right here. Nah. Y'all ain't living, man. Hey, 55% of the women say they don't like it. Nah, Ocho. Hold on, what, 55% of what women?

In the chat, we put it up. In the chat. They ain't lying. They're telling the truth. They don't like it. Hey, hey, hey, boy, it's 45. That's pretty high for the ones that you're like. Damn, Joe, you thought it was going to be zero.

I ain't, no, I ain't you going to be. Oh, Cho, Joe, 50 to 60, Joe boarded the 30s and 40s. man damn joe i think i'm a little bit oh i think i'm a little bit more adventurous than joe i finally found somebody that's less adventurous to me man hey man let me stop before y'all get me in trouble with my baby man because i know she's watching y'all gonna get me in trouble now now i don't i don't i don't want to get no dog house i feel you oh joe but i know a couple florida too boy yeah y'all some wild boy man hey joe we not wild joe we just living we are living no i'm living i'm living i'm living we're living you just doing things that are comfortable with you

you have to learn to be comfortable being uncomfortable and y'all just not you stuck in this one box there's one little space and you don't want to go nowhere i'm telling you i'm gonna send you i'm email you my youtube tutorial and step by step in ways to improve the other side of your life Just send me $20. I got you. I'm going to send it to you. And I asked, put the pole up. Baby, baby, I ain't got nothing to do with that.

I ain't got nothing to do with it. Well, I ain't got nothing. Oh, fuck. Yeah, we had to close, put that pole down. Ain't nobody doing it, but Joe, I mean, a, Ocho. But, but, but Joe is a little bit more old school that's a little bit more arcade to me. And that's saying something.

Yeah, yeah. Nah, I'm gonna tell y'all what it is. It's the, see, y'all football kids, y'all are a little different. Y'all, y'all operate a little different from basketball guys. What you mean? Y'all, I'm gonna keep it going, honey. Y'all a lot freaky. Yeah, no.

Yeah, I probably so. I ain't got nothing to do with it, hey, Joe. We don't got nothing to do it. We're, we strong, we stronger, oh, uh, Joe. So, yeah. So you, yeah. He's like to see it. He's like, I'll be.

Yeah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, Joe, I already know. I already know you get down. I already know. Listen. It's so funny. I can tell y'all a quick story. You know, the movie, the movie, um, you saw the movie Christian Gray, huh?

Not talking to something about the movie Christian Gray. Damn, what's the name of that goddamn movie, chat? 50 shades of gray we're on go 50 shades of gray so you know I I tried to audition for that so I didn't realize I didn't realize that they wanted someone Caucasian of a of a lighter complexion what is that what you're doing with that that what I'm saying I'd be walking around you know what I'm saying you don't You don't know what I'm saying? Hey, he said he ain't got all the muscles for days.

Hey, Joe, she ain't got me one leg. It don't battle. You know what I'm saying? It don't even battle, Joe. Hey. Hey, man, you should. Wait, hey, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Oh, why the head you got a goddamn skeleton? Halloween, Halloween was last month. Well, he's going over anatomy. Hey. Oh Cho, huh. There was a real person, but you know, she, oh, when she cuts down, she tried to go 12 rounds with the champ.

As you can see, she lost. Hey, I told y'all, I chat. I was supposed to wait till 2026. I told you all, man. But what? Hey, listen, hey, let me tell you something. What? What happened in the past is the past.

We can't wait for 2026 because tomorrow's not promised. Ain't no telling if we're going to be able to enjoy these moments. So while we can enjoy him, well, we better got damn laugh at it, have some fun, and go ahead and keep on living. Bad. I'm with you when you're right, Ocho. Yep. All right.

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