Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Russell Wilson CLAPS BACK at Sean Payton + Unc & Iso Joe CLOWN Ocho for having a TWIN BED + Unc REFLECTS on his 2025 & CALLS OUT his FAKE FRIENDS + Quinshon Judkins JOINS NIGHTCAP

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Sean Payton responding to Russell Wilsons comments, Ocho talks about having a twin bed and not spending a lot of money and Quinshon Judkins joins the show to talk about the start of his young career and much more! 5:50 - Iso Joe talking about rehabbing6:00 - Russell Wilson claps back at Sean Payton24:50 - Ocho talks about having a twin size bed41:50 - Unc reflects on lessons learned from past 6 months50:00 - Quinshon Judkins Interview (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks. It's good to be right. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap, we got the big three back. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, and there is my partner and co-host. He's Liberty City's own, Madding,

ratings adjuster, bingo ring of fame honoree, a former pro bowler, all pro. He's Chad, Ocho Cinco Johnson. Hey, um, I just got one more job, too, Joe. What you got? What you got? They just had me at the assistant to the manager at the USPS postal office over there in Weston.

okay yeah i went i went to my interview today and i go to the my interview again uh two more days well i tell you what give me a couple of books and stamps why you over there real oh you know i get a discount on them too huh hold on so you'll be working at the post office yeah yeah yeah yeah as the manager i oversee i oversee the flow and all in all the deliveries coming in and going out do me a favor when you're in the mayor room yeah hold the memberloves like this here yeah If you see something in there that we can do something with, I know somebody that can make it happen. Okay, I got you.

Oh, show, they got a place for you, too. You're going to. I'm telling you, you're going to jail. Hey, listen, as long as you put some of them a commissary, I'm good. I got you. I got you. Hey, the money that we take in, right. Four percent of it, go to your commissary.

Four percent. Hold on. I never remember about T. He's back after three-month vacation. He got his internet working. Ben Laden had better internet service than that Lama ball. But you know what? He got it back.

It's good. Now, he ain't in the tunnel. That is ISO Joe, Joe Johnson. Joe, glad to have you back, man. Hey, good to be back with y'all. Hey, this leg getting better and better every week, fellas. I'm getting back. That's all we need to here.

That's all we need to hear. You're going to be up and moving around in no time. I'm already moving. You already moving around? Oh, man. Stop playing. Wow. Hold on.

Have you been able to test that leg out against any competition, though? I ain't even trying to do that right now. Ocho, long as I can walk with comfort. Right. That's why I'm met right now. Okay. Oh, that's all we need to hear. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button.

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We got Brown's rookie outstanding running back, Quinshan Judkins. He joins us, but first, Joe, you back. Joe said the recovery's going well, rehab, doing really well. So how many times you rehab a week? I mean, you know, you're not a professional athlete anymore, Joe, because, you know, normally, if you had did this on the Hawks or one of the team, you're there five days a week, maybe six days a week. Hey, hey.

Now you get, they give you two. Yeah, two days after the week. Tuesdays and Thursdays, I go in on Tuesdays and Thursday, get their work in. And, you know, I do a lot of stuff on my own, too, as well. So, yeah, that's what you got to do. Hey, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I do it.

Once I found out what they was doing, hey, I do the same thing on my time off. Oh, yeah. Maybe add a little stuff. Oh, yeah. It's the same thing as like, you know, like if you only get better when you go to practice, then you only going to be so good. You know, if you don't do nothing home, then you won't be that great. You know what I mean?

Right. So I know a lot of stuff that I need to do here on my own at my house. And when I get to therapy, bro, I'll be ready. I'll be ready. That's like the highlight of my week. Yep. I like it. All right, guys, we're going to get into it.

Russell Wilson. He clapped back at his former coach, Sean Payton, after post-game comments, praising Jackson Dart. Let's take a listen to what Peyton had to say. You know, they found a little spark with that quarterback. I was talking to John Merron not too long ago, and I said we were hoping that that change would have happened long after our game. Russ tweeted back, classless, but not surprised.

Didn't realize you're still bounty hunting 15 plus years through the, the media. Let's ride. Now, Sean Payton later responded today that he was just talking about, you know, he was phrasing Jackson Dart. Now, he mentioned that he had talked to John Mara several weeks earlier before they even played, before they had even made this switch. God, y'all know I'm Bronco through and through. Like Sean Payton, I know Sean Payton.

We had a very, very close mutual friend, Mike Ornstein, Mike Ornstein passed away. Rest in peace. Yes. I know Sean very well. No, you didn't have to. Everybody knows how you feel about Russ. Yeah.

Russ probably feel the same way, but would never say anything. I'm a little surprised Russ even responded to this. I like it. Ocho, but here's the thing. You're only able to take so much. Absolutely. Because what you see is just like, They keep going and keep going and keep going.

And then they'll be, oh, you weak. You weak. So Russ responded, I don't have a problem with Russ, with Russ saying. But, Sean, come on now. Ocho, are you surprised Russ responded? And are you surprised this thing has really taken, got legs and kind of like started running on its own?

I like the fact that it has legs. I like the fact that it has legs. Sean Payton, he already tried Russ on the sideline. He tried Russ on the sideline, berating him and talking trash to him, actually provoked Russ, hoping he would break character, hoping he would show a different side than who he actually is. He kept calm, mild manner. Now he takes shots at him again for no reason at all.

And I love Russell, choir boy Wilson, but I love the fact that he stood up for himself. Russell Wilson, Matthew 539, in the Bible, it says, turn the other cheek. With this time, Russ say, you know, I didn't ran out of cheeks. I'm going to clap back. I'm going to fire back at you. I'm going to stand up for myself. And I like him showing some enthusiasm in getting in the fire for a change instead of just letting, you know, let it be water off of Ducks back.

Man, talk your shit, Russ. It's okay. It's okay. And guess what? What? ain't no person named Shannon in the Bible I ain't in there you keep talking back taking your chief shots

to me I'm gonna put something on you come on now talk talk about Russie remember remember Ocho come on Russ at some point in time enough has to be enough you made your point

you didn't want me you moved on you have a quarterback and Bo Knicks that seems to be that he's the guy for the Broncos future I've gone to this is my second team

since I've left the Broncos I ain't bother nobody Russ, you can like or dislike Russ. But the one thing that you can't say that he's not bothering anybody, he's not talking down, he's not saying anything negative about anybody. So my thing is, why? Hey, let me say, Uncle Joe, Russell Wilson, if you want to talk about quarterbacks and the way to conduct yourself as a professional athlete on and off the field,

he's a consummate pro. He is the ultimate pro when it comes to doing your job, going to work, being a family man, a husband doing everything the right way. The fact that he finally got outside of his character for a change is exciting for me. I like it. I enjoy it because now, listen, at some point

you got to put a nail in the coffin because if you don't put a nail in the coffin, they're going to keep digging your grave. I agree. They're going to keep on digging your grave and keep digging at you for no reason. There's no reason for you, and I know Sean Payton as well. There's no reason for you to do that, but you understood. Listen, I got to, I got a sit duck.

I got an easy duck. He ain't going to say none. he ain't going to fire back but finally we get a new russell wilson i love this i love this russ wilson and and russell i know you're going to see this anybody else say something you better fire off of their ass too go ahead joe hey i agree with both y'all's uh i think you know i think russ is more so like you know enough is enough man he ain't saying nothing he's been going by his way you know tending to his business and they still taking chief shots at him i'm with him man i'm glad he responded i'm glad he said something be petted Get it. Go back at him.

Yeah. I'm serious. It doesn't matter how mild a person is. Eventually. Yeah. Eventually. You look at, I mean, you look at any animal.

It might be even the dog might, you know, you see a, but after a while, he's going to lash out at you. It's going to a lash out because it's only going to take so much. So he, Russ felt that, okay, former teammates have been taking shots at him, you know, X, Y, and Z. said all these things. And now he's like, bro, how much, how much more, how much more crap do

y'all want to dump on me and say, man, y'all just pouring perfume on me? Listen, because at some point in time, Mocho, enough is enough. Yeah, yeah. You've made your point. Okay, okay, I'm fine. I get it. I get it. I didn't, I didn't live up to the expectations that I had the coaching staff, the organization, or the fan base of Denver. I didn't meet those expectations. I accept that. But I'm gone. There's no need. There's no reason for you to mention you can praise Jackson Dart without taking a dump on me. Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, look, praise your guy. But why would you have to take a shot at me? And you, like I said, he said that he was just afraid of Jackson Dart, but you said that you had talked to John Mara,

who's one half of the owner of the Giants weeks ago. Mm-hmm. Even if he had done that, he could have kept that to himself. Yeah. He didn't have to share that, though, Joe. He could have just said what he said, like, you know, and maybe with his coaching staff or with his close buddies when he's having a drink. Right.

I told you, I told John, that's like, man, I hope y'all make that change out for us because it's just a matter of time. Right. cool and nobody the way jackson dart is playing i don't think anybody's upset that they made this move i told ocho i said oh cho over under eight weeks i said i'm looking like i'm taking the under i said i'm taking the under yeah because i had seen enough in i seen enough in the preseason i said ocho they're going to make this make this change sooner than later yeah yeah but i i just don't i don't you know the continuation of beating down russ it's it's unnecessary and what is that

I know you're excited. Joe, you know, we win a game, Ocho. We win a game. We're excited, yeah. We beat them sorry. Yeah, we beat them sorry, Ralph. Yeah. But what you think?

You thought y'all had them, didn't it. 33 and the four. 33. I get all that. But come on now. Winners enough enough, Ocho. How much am I supposed to take? I like it.

As a matter of fact, he should have cursed in the tweet. He should have cursed. Go, go all the way there. It wasn't enough for you. Now, listen, I like it. He, listen, he fired back, but he fired back in a professional manner. Absolutely. Man, come on, man.

Hey, Russ, next time, man, man, man, what, what, I put, let me put the tweet together. I'll put the tweet together for you. No, hell, dogs. Hey, listen, but what was it about? Why was Sean Payton bring that up, honestly? Like, what did they have to do with anything? Listen, this is all about the privileges that was bestowed upon Russ. us before Sean Payton got there.

Yeah. I said some things, and everybody called me a lot. I was talking, me and Ocho and I was having a conversation, and everybody wanted to tell me, Shannon, you don't know what's going on because you're not there. I say, you do realize I'm still held in very, very high regard in Denver. Right. You actually think I would say something like this,

and it not be the gospel? I say, hey, I'm Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. When I speak about something coming out of Denver or Baltimore, it's the gospel. I don't really talk too much about it because y'all, they know, but they try to undermine me and try to say you're not in the locker room or you don't know what I'm talking about. But y'all don't realize how often I call around the league and a lot of things that's going on that get reported, that ain't my job. I ain't Adam Schuster. I don't try to be.

I'm not Jake Glazer. I don't try to be. But I know a lot more than what I say. And when it comes out, like, hmm. They got mad. I said it. Sean got there. When they were explaining the privileges that Russ got,

Sean, like, are you itting me? Are you kidding me? It's like, no, you're like, no, that is not normal protocol. Nobody in the history had ever had a situation like that. And from that point on, once he heard that, it was over. He would have needed to throw for 50 touchdowns, 4,000 yards, and get them to the AFC championship.

other than that, it wasn't going to work. So instead of trying to listen to what I was trying to say, trying to explain what was transpiring and why so many people were out on Russ in Denver, they wanted to talk about, oh, you're talking bad about a black man. You wouldn't say that about a white guy. When I had called Tom,

when I had called Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Tony Romo and Aaron Rogers and all these other quarterbacks. But see, long as I'm talking about them, it's fine. Right. All I was saying, I didn't say Russ was a bad, person. I said he got privileges. And it made his teammates feel a certain type of weight. Sort of alienated itself. We on, Ocho, we know who makes the money. Yeah. But just because you make

more money, we don't want you getting privileges. We don't want you having offices that none of us like, hold on, really? Yeah. So from that point on, Sean felt some type of way. He felt some type of way. And I get it. I get it. But that man been gone for two years now. It's time to let that go. Yeah. Joe, uh, uh, you know what it is? What's that? It's the same thing with Mello and George Carl. George Carl, keep on poking Mello. Mello don't mention George Carl, but every chance he gets, he tries to poke Mello. Mello's going to have to, look, Melo's going to have to draw a line in the sand and say, Mofo, if you step across this line again, I'm going to have to unleash. You know he ain't got no problem doing that.

You know, Mello ain't got no problem drawing that line. He's going to have to because every time or every time he's always speaking negative. Oh, they couldn't win no championship with that guy. He wouldn't play defense. He wouldn't do this. I get it. You don't like Mello. Everybody is not going to like everybody.

But, bro, you hadn't coach Mello in damn near two decades. Yeah. What is the issue now? Can we just move on? I mean, obviously at that point, it'd be better if coaches come out, especially when they continue to do this, and they have things to say years removed from dealing or coaching a certain individual,

why don't you just come out and say, you know what, I don't even like this individual. And it's personal. It had nothing to do with the sport. It had nothing to do with basketball, had nothing to do with football, nothing to do with him playing quarterback or whatever it may be. I just don't like him.

And that's okay. It would be better suited for us as a public and fans of these sports to come out and have Sean Pace, say, you know what, I just don't like Russell Wilson. I don't know, I don't know what it is about him.

I just don't like him. Or George Carl, you know what? I don't like Carmelo. Whatever it may be. What's understood, don't need to be spoken. Yeah. You know.

Yeah. Man, I don't, I don't, well, if, say, if somebody continuously cheating on the other party, yeah. What does he need to say? What does she need to say? None.

You keep doing what you doing. When you know it's wrong, I don't need, I don't need no, no Harvard attorney to try to read between the lines. Yes, sir. You're telling me the mere fact that you keep taking shots at me publicly is one thing if it's getting back to me, Ocho. But the mere fact that you're putting it in print, the mere fact that you keep saying it publicly, I can read it for myself, I can see it for myself. Tell me that how you feel about me. But I didn't, I already knew that. I've been trying to take the high road,

try to remain professional. I'm trying to build a brand. I don't want to do anything to tarnish that. But hey, bro, I understand. That's not what you are. You don't try to build a brand. You're not really on television. People go to you when they want to get clicks.

They want to get a rage bait material. They'll come to you and you'll say something. Mello is one of the 75 greatest players they ever play in the NBA. We understand what Mello is. Now he's a Hall of Famer. So automatically, if somebody says something, something negative, that's going to get picked up.

That is mellow. That's his former coach. I just don't get it. We don't have to like all of our teammates. We don't have to like all of our coaches. I've had a great relationship with all the coaches. Maybe one or two I didn't really jive with. It's okay.

But I would never say anything publicly. Absolutely. Or a teammate. It's only so much, bro. only so. Yeah, bro, I'm 507. I got grand now. What I'm talking about what happened 25, 30 years ago? Yeah. What

purpose does that serve in a negative night? Yes. Yeah, none at all. None at all. I mean, listen, I get along with everybody. I'd assume. I try to. I'd assume everybody loves me the same way I show love. There's only one person I don't get along with.

And if I ever see him, it's on site. And I'm not. I'm not. How much? What did you say, Joe? Who is that? You don't want to say? Oh, oh, James Harrison. Oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's personal. It's personal. And I say it every day. And I let him know. I can't wait to see him. Obviously, he doesn't live here in Miami, but the only place I probably see him,

what, maybe Super Bowl? Yeah. Oh, too. I'm sure we're probably cross-pass, maybe, you know, radio row or some shit like that. And either he's going to have security or it's just going to be a thumping session. Oh, Joe.

I don't know if you want to climb that tree, man. Hey, one thing about me. Hey, hey, let me tell you something. Hey, Joe, in high school, they called me Paul Bunyan. You hear me? Hey, I'm chopping everything down. Hey, all the trees. Hey, hey, hey, hey, as you play a partner, man, I'm trying to listen.

You might want your pass on that one, bro. Hey, hey, Joe, brush up on your NFL knowledge. What you want to know? I seen, hey. No, I'm just saying, because I might need a new partner. Okay, okay, say less, say less, say less, say less, say less, I'm with you. Hey, the fact that y'all don't have no faith in me, man, that, that, you're not, y'all not Christian. Hey, hey, hey, I'm basically saying you're going to be concussed, you're going to be out, you're going to be out for the rest of the time.

No, we got to, look, we got other, we got other business ventures that we're trying to get to, Ocho. Oh, we're going to get there no matter what. We're going to get there no matter what. I mean, if you can't talk for like six bucks. Oh, I'm going to be, man, trust me. I'm going to be okay. Hey, listen, if you see me in the fight with a bell, you might want to help the bell. Yeah.

Hey, Joe, I don't need no partner when he moved in the chair like this here. You hear me? I can't use no partner like that. I need a real partner. Somebody to go laugh and joke and get up out of the chair. Hey, hey, Ocho, I got a question. What's your game playing, though?

Like, what y'all, y'all getting into oxygon? What y'all doing? Hey, listen, octagon. Listen, octagon street, boxing ring, it don't matter. On site, it, it don't matter, Joe. Like, I'm at that point. Like, I'm kind of frustrated because I keep challenging him, and he really don't want no smoke.

He's not responding. That lets me know, I mean, all that size and muscle don't mean nothing, man. Okay, hey, from me to you, brother, Jay, keep your distance, stick and move. Hey, that's, hey, Joe, that's what I'm going to do, Joe. Don't, yeah, there you go. Hey, hey, look at my rain, Joe, my brain, make my brain dot there. Yeah, you know, I'm going to keep you know, I'm going to keep you. him out of distance, Joe. Like, I might, I might get mid-ranging that and get close up on him.

No, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. No. No, don't get close. Keep that distance. Use that jab, you got to use that jab, baby. Hey, Joe, me use that thing, Joe. I'm using it. I'm telling you, man, listen, hey, I'm, listen, hey, one thing about it, man, God always got on my side. Oh. God only been on my side. You hit me? And all my bad. I'm on your side. I'm saying, and all my bad. I'm saying, and all my bad. I'm saying, I'm going to pull him off you. I mean, but y'all sound like y'all ain't on my side. Y'all telling me I'm going to be hurt.

And I ain't going to be able to talk. Yeah, it ain't going to be looking good. All right. But no, what we try to do, Ocho, we're trying to keep you safe. I'm safe. When I get in the car, I put my seatbelt on. When I walk out of the door, I say a prayer. Every morning I roll out of bed.

When I roll out the left side or the right side, I save me a prayer. So every time I walk up and I pray, I'm always. safe. You don't get out the same side of the bed every morning? Huh? You don't get out the same side of the bed? No, sometimes I roll to the left, I roll to the right. Depending on what size she on. Oh, okay. Yeah.

I get out of the same side, it don't matter. Me too. No? No, hell no. I'm sleeping. That's my side. Well, God damn, what size bed you all got? All right, no. I mean, Ocho, I just saying, who sleeps in the middle of the bed? I sleep on one side. No, I don't sleep on edge of the bed because I might fall out. You don't, you don't toss and turn? No. Yeah. I mean, I see my best. I got a twin. What's what size y'all

bed? Oh, man, stop. I got a king bed. That man ain't got a king. What, you're, what, you're sleeping on the full size? A twin? I got a twin. Boy, you ain't had no twins to you were in college. Exactly. Exactly. Hold on. Time out. Hold on. Hey, hold on. I'm not playing. Wait, y'all got king size beds? man yes you know how much that shit costs yeah oh so i got to have a king side oh but joe you you probably got a california king your feet be hanging out the bed joe oh there you go baby there you go hey my y'all trip over the line hey hey listen the king bed cost so goddamn much i just got i got i got the cheapest one and then you know how much of mattress is yeah

no in the oh joe you don't have to buy no mattress you don't have to buy no mattress but Once every 10 years. Yeah. They made a postopedic mattress man with like $4,000 for a king bed. I was like, oh, that's cool. Give me the twin. I got the twin and stand. I got one of the mattress that's old show that read.

It'll tell you how long you slept, how long you was in a deep sleep, how long you was in the rim. If your bed get hot, it'll cool it down for you. You can make adjustments. You got one of the memory phones. Huh? You got one of the memory phones over there. No, I got one of the most, you know, one of those space age,

Hey, hey, what, would they run? How much when them run? They're a little soft, sorry, you know, a little soft, you know. They come in twin? Hey, why do that, hey, hey, Ocho, why he be trying to act like you can't spend four, five grand on the bed, man? They ain't spending no, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe, he's spending $4,000 on the bed, Joe, who do that?

Look, look. Come on, man. You ain't doing that, you ain't doing nothing but sleeping and shagging on there anyway. That's what I'm saying, but Ocho. Also, it'll tell me how long I was in a REM sleep. It'll tell me how long I was in a deep sleep. It'll tell me how long I snored.

It'll say, you snored 35 minutes last night. You snored 50% less than normal. Yeah, yeah. It'll tell you one time you fell asleep. I have a question. Even if that bed has all those features and has all those amenities that it comes with, I'm sure it costs

a pretty penny. What are you going to do with that information? 5,900. That's how much the bed costs. That's a whole lot. What you mean? What I'm going to do with that information? It'll tell me. Guess what?

It says your best time to work out is between the hours of one and five. You don't need a bed to tell you that. Your body will tell you that. Your body will take you that. Exactly. That's what it's telling me. It's the same reason they put all that stuff in your shoulder pads and they track everything that you do at practice.

this now. Right. You dehydrated. You need more hydrant. See? Ta-da. The more information you have. Hey, you want me to tell you? Want me to tell you why they track everything now? Because they understand see, they're pros and their cons of that

and them tracking everything. They understand when you get to a certain amount of mileage. Yeah, this car, he ain't no more good. That's all it is. No, I think they sleep. Well, that man, he's tracking that upstairs. Yeah, they try to make it seem like it's a good thing. but they're tracking all this stuff

where his speed ain't what it used to be yeah we might need to watch him it's about we might want to get rid of him and get something good for they put it in your pads on show huh they're putting that in your shoulder pads yeah and the catapult you know the catapult thing yeah yeah man that's

hey and the bed of cool you know I like it to be about somewhere between 66 and 68 degrees so you know as you later I'm a the bed my body temperature I'm like my body temperature is hell I ain't going to cool it down. So it might start at 72 and it'll say, you know, we made 34 adjustments last night to your bed.

Huh? Be it at my feet, be it at my back, be it if I'm on my side, be it if I'm laying on my stomach. It doesn't matter. It'll automatically adjust. I got a damn boo. I give you a girl. All that's so unnecessary. I do just fine.

Let me tell you something. Stay with me real quick. Stay with me, Joe. Joe, I got a twin bed, Joe. It costs me $2,200, Joe. I got a mattress, memory phone, Pashtrapedic. It cost me $800, Joe. That's fine. You talk

about your bed heating up and getting cold and doing this and doing that. I don't need all that shit. Joe, I put my AC on 65 degrees and I leave it. I'm good. I'm good. I ain't got to do all that. The bed are just for me. It cooled down for me. I ain't got to do all that.

Hey, you boy sleeping like polar bears. I'm saying, hey, Joe, you know how to get hot? Oh, Joe, you got to kick your leg out from under the cup or throw the cup off that. I ain't got to do none of that. I ain't got to do nothing that. That's normal, though. No, that.

No, that. Hey, me, I pull the covers up on me. Now, see, you live, you live in a different time. You're trying to live like the Jetsons. I don't want to live like the Jetsons. I already lived like the Flintstone for 20 years. I ain't tried to live like that again. Right, right.

I'm good. I don't have pallets on the floor. I don't slip on those cast iron bed. I'm good. I'm going to sleep good now. Hey, hey, Joe, sleep is important, brother. That's how you might have recovered, man. Hold on.

I'm good. Joe, I don't go nowhere. I know about sleep. If it wasn't for the show, remember, I'm sleep by 9.30 at night. I'm up at 5 a.m. every morning. I'm in a gym at 7 a.m. I show wish I could go to bed at 9.30 at night.

You can if you stop partying. Hey, you remember what happened Monday night? What? One 30. I've seen. Yeah, what time did we come on, Ocho? It was 10.45 here. It was 1.45 there.

Yeah, we didn't get off to 3 in the morning. Exactly. And guess what else, Ocho? I had to get right back up and catch a flight and go to L.A. Okay. See, that's what I call dedication, because I was up to. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I was up to, hey, Joe, it was three.

We got off the show. Joe, I swaffled God. My clock said 323. I already know. I won't trip, but no. I was feeling good, too, because I took. I took a nap earlier today. Yeah.

I took a nap early. No, I could say, I had to cut them naps out. Because you can't sleep at night. I can't sleep at night. Hey, see, that's perfect. You see, this is why I'm trying to get you a partner now. It's perfect right there. Them nights you can't sleep at night, boom.

Hey, honey, I wrote a poem for you. Hey, honey, let me write you a love letter. Hold on. Recite some, recite some Shakespeare to your girl or something. Hold on, hold on. I thought, I don't say you got somebody safe to be married. two years. Yeah, yeah.

You heard that joke? You're only in for show. Yeah. Hey, just because y'all don't see me, I'm listening and watching now. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Hey, Joe, you married, huh?

Close enough. I ain't married. Close enough. Okay. Come along. Hold on. Stay with me. He just ain't got no paperwork.

Hey, don't. Listen, this is what we can do. We could all make this official and have a trifecta wedding. Hold on. Yeah, we can have a trifecta wedding. Hey, I'm official. I just ain't got no whistle. I'm good.

Yeah, we're back, we back. We're probably watching. Yeah. Okay, okay. All right. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I guess you. Yeah, you see what I'm saying?

Joe, Joe, Joe, oh, Joe, it's time to come on. It's time to come home. Yeah, yeah. Come on. It's about that time. Yeah, yeah. We're not getting no younger. no i hey joe i tried to explain the uncle i say the older we get the older we get the chances of

getting what we want it becomes slim because what's available out there right now don't nobody else won't because that's why it's available who you hear me hey hey you get a certain age you know you get what you can not what you want to you know i say hey the pickings is slim now hey it's it's a tough time to be dating now, boy. Hey, what? Hey, boy. I'm, I waved my white flag long time ago. I remember, hey, we always,

hey, we got back to school clothes. It was like a week before school, everything done been picked over. Right. Hey, it wasn't early. We got, hey, we get the last two weeks. Everything that's been picked over. Everybody else had the jeans on,

to try the shirt on, the head their feet in the shoe. That's what they came up. Because I remember when I was coming up, Joe, people would be trying the shoes on just their bare foot. Yeah. You ain't had no socks. You know, they just started.

You laughing, Ocho, I ain't lying. They, they, you people had their brother like, damn. Hey, let me, let me get them with what he just had. But that was, that was back in the day. So, but I'm going, hey, it's time to come on in, Ocho. It's time to come on home. Oh, man. It just, it is what it is.

And listen, I'm, I'm at fault, too. I'm at fault too. Yeah, for sure. As I've gotten older, I've tried, I struck out, huh? I've tried, I've struck out. But, you know, I'm back, I'm back at the plate. That's the one thing I love about baseball is at some point, as much as you strike out, you can get your opportunity to be at the plate again.

And right now, well, uncle, I'm about to hit a home run. Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, my problem with a boy, Joe. Call me Uh, uh, Giroh O'Tani.

No, not O'Tani. What's, Aaron Judge? No, play for, uh, the Blue Jays.

Oh, Vlad Guerrero Jr. I'm Guerrero Jr. Uh, yes, uh, yes, uh.

Yeah, bad, it's, hey, the thing was, you know, my problem with, Ocho.

Talk to me. Looking for perfection. Ooh, take your time. It ain't out. One, well, she's the perfect height.

Uh-huh. She was the perfect complexion. Come on now. She had the perfect bill. She had the perfect, uh-huh. Bro, you're not going to find all that. Uh-uh. In one, you just, listen, I've come to the realization.

Uh-huh. I've got to find a woman that have enough of the qualities that I'm looking for that I'm willing to overlook the ones that she don't have. It took me 57 years to realize that there's no such thing as perfection, although we constantly try to achieve it. Talk to them. So now I'm like, okay, that's enough. Right.

You're enough. You're tall enough. You're fine enough. The complexion is enough. Everything is enough. Come on now. And it took me a while to realize that because I'm like, I'm trying to be perfect. Hell, I want the perfect person.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I ate the way I ate. That's why I trained because I was trying to be perfect. Shannon, and my sister just said, Shannon, you realize you're not going to be perfect, right? You realize you, you're flawed. You are flawed. I don't know why. We all are.

I mean, I'm like, listen, I, I, I would love, I would love to be a therapist. I would love to be a counselor for, for my sisters, because they, they have expectations. And I love, I love people having expectations and, and having wants and needs and want requirements for people that they date to meet those qualifications. You hear me? What's y'all laughing at? I'm listening, bro. Yeah, but here's the thing, no, Ocho.

Yeah, but, but say with me a quick on. I want to hear this one. What are the chances? If you ask a woman, Joe, if you ask a woman, what is she looking for the man? You hear me? And she'll run down the list of all the qualities and all the requirements that she wants. And it's almost, it's a builder bear. It's not, it's not real.

The expectations aren't realistic. So everyone is looking for this, this, not imaginary but you'll meet a guy that that'll meet half of what you want and oh you know he ain't no good no he he work at sears oh he work at macy's i can't do nothing with that oh joe yeah the easy thing you'll do is to get with a person getting with is the easy part staying is what's hard man basketball came easy to joe football came you either to you and I. But guess what we had to do?

We had to practice. We had to study. We had to lift weights. We had to train. All that goes towards work. Working. You see? Everybody gets to the relationship and then that's it.

You've got to work every single day because the person that you met yesterday is not the person today. The person that you go bed with the night, going to wake up. And so now, instead of finding a reason to break up, can I find a reason to state? And the words of earth winning fire, can I find a reason? Just one, can I find one reason to state?

The reason that we did. Love game, been played. All of our reason was a- Come on now. Take your time. Right. So now, it took me a while because I, Ocho, man. You, hey, shh, damn, damn. nah shana because at the end of the day

the way she looked today she ain't gonna look like that 10 years from now hey hey from 20 years from now and that and that that that booty that's up on the shoulders yeah yeah it's gonna be down by knees and you're gonna need to pick it up and walk with her walk behind of the care because you know what if she's walking

in a silhouette that you can see now when she gets about 55 60 you're gonna be dragging in the sand on the beach you're gonna know what she went hey what my girl okay after your trail. You know what I'm saying? And you, you got to accept that, Ocho.

Yeah, because I really, you know what? I walked by the mirror the other day, and I was like, damn. I hate the same guy no more, Ocho.

Hold on, you lost it? Ocho, I'm telling you, I used to, I used to pay, I used to pee on a boot from 25 feet away.

That's how your arm was, though, Cho. Hey, I ain't that no more. What happened? Hey, you say you ain't got it like you used to. I ain't got it like I used to. I was like, damn. I'm like, I'm not terrible. Right.

But I'm looking at how I once was. Right. And so if I were, if women were to judge me by what I used to be, as opposed to what I currently am, I ain't going to get nobody. I know I used to I walked around at 2.35 with 5% body fat

Okay 3% 4% body fat for years Right I was like you know what I need to give people grace like I'm asking people to give me grace Hey hold on what you're saying you fat now No he's not no I ain't fat Oh no anybody no stretch of imagination

Okay okay hey hey I'm saying his bounce back ain't like it used to be Yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, yeah, it's bounce back. Yeah, yeah, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. Damn. I'm just saying the baby arm ain't what it used to be.

That's all I'm saying, Ocho, that's all. All right, that's it. We ain't going no further. 26. 26. I'm going to be back. Chat, stay with me until 26. My bad, that old.

My bad fettles. Yeah. But you just, you have to come to the realization, man, and I've come to the realization that, hey, I'm it is what it is hey I ain't 27

I ain't 37 hey just got to keep kicking hey I just put one foot one foot in front of the other and just just keep just keep going forward

but we're back we all the way man I love it no no no no we're all the way back but are you better believe 26

it's gonna be all the cracking that's what I'm talking about I'm gonna be part of some of that cool stuff Y'all got going. Yeah, you know, the reason why y'all fell in love with Uncle, oh, get on your nightcap, 26. 26. Yeah, two my months.

Y'all, y'all know. I got these jokes. Hey, I ain't in the joke telling business like a, like quick, but I got some. But man, this, man, you know, when you, I tell you, you know what I'm saying, you know, you drive, you just spend a lot of time. You know, I've had a lot of time. You know, I've had a lot of time. the thing because, you know, my grandmother said, boy, she said you either walking into the

storm, you end the storm, or you're walking out of it. You say somebody, everybody going through something, son. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Boy. And when you end that storm, when you in the eye of the storm, the eye of the storm dropped down in New Orleans, Katrina.

That was the eye. Yeah. Boy, you don't think, you don't know if it's ever, ever, like when is this going to be over? But how much longer? Man, hello. Where do I go? When does it end? What the...

Yeah. But I... The I had a storm could be... Ocho, I read a quote many, many years ago. It said a lesson that's not learned in blood is destined to be repeated. Mm. Mm. Mm.

I had a conversation with my brother probably about two months ago. And he called me. And I said, well, you know, he obviously, he knew what's going on because I called him and told him her to tie it. And then something else came out. Then something else came out. Then something else came out. Then ESPN came out. He said, Shannon, there's a lesson in here somewhere for you to be going through what you're going through.

There is a lesson. It's on you to figure it out. Yeah. I said, man, I show. wish I would. He said, you know what? He said, no, that's not the, that's not the plan. He said, if you knew what it was, you would circumvent the lesson. Right. He said, no, but you'll figure it out. Yeah. He said, you'll figure it out. And people, when y'all see me, I don't, I don't want y'all to have the wrong impression. Um, but I'm just very guarded now. I'm very, very guarded.

I was always on alert, but I'm on high alert because I really don't know who I can really trust. Because what I've seen over the last six months, there are very few people that you can actually trust. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. Very, very, very few. And there are people that said some things, and it's gotten back to me. Mm-hmm.

But I was like, wow. Yeah. And you remember we have this conversation, Ocho, about being down and then people feel like they can pile on. Yeah. But I'm just very, I'm very, I'm very, hey, I'm very, hey, how you doing? It's nice to meet you. I'm going about, I'm on my way. Yeah.

I'm on my way because I don't, I don't want people. Yeah, I had a conversation and stuff because if you stay too long, Ocho, the more people, and this is what I had to learn. And somebody told me this. They say, Shannon, the more people you become involved with, the more stories there is to be told. Mm-hmm. circle got to be crazy small the more people you're involved with shanna

the more stories there are to be told okay I like that I didn't know what was going to happen I appreciate you, Ocho because you're like hey when you text me uncle I'm with you

whatever we got to go through we go and through it. You ain't by yourself. To the wheels fall the fuck off. Shit, you gave me the opportunity. There are so many people, Ocho and Joe, where I'm going. That used to call, that used to text.

Yeah. I ain't heard from them since this happened. But that's all right, though. That's all right, though. Man, please. Yeah, keep it moving, baby. Maybe this is what I don't wish this on anybody. But what it did do is it really showed me who's really, really there.

Right. There are a lot of people on the peripheral. When things were going well, we were at the apex and getting invited to everything. Yeah. I'm talking about ain't called. Ain't called. And I'm talking about We were talking

Once a month Twice a month Right Are we gonna come back What I see Yeah and you know I think about too Unk and Joe

You had to think about You know Unk What you had to go through You know I've been in the eye That storm too now Mm-hmm

Big time In front of the world Yeah So I had to take my licks I had to I had to take my way And I had Hey Joe

but them calls stop ain't hurt to nobody my circle was always small so my same my same circle was right there you know to lift me up but I already knew I often to sit for a minute for a long time Joe I had it was quiet up

for maybe six years yeah well you know how long six years is and nothing coming no nothing you just I'm and then here we go you give me an opportunity you know why everything is backgoing, motion and going, is going good.

Yeah. And then you think I had a nerd to jump ship just because you're going through what I had to go through years ago. I know, I know what it's like. Yeah. And I'm looking at the chat. Everybody says Stephen A. No, I will say this.

Stephen A has called me and been there every step of the way. I will say that. I will say Stephen A have reached out. He's called, asked me anything. Juvie, he's like, man, Juvie just wanted to say, hey, that's his boy. He just wanted to say, hey, you good? Hey, up, you good? I'm good.

I'm good. Look, I know a lot of people say a lot of things about Stephen A. All I can attest to is the way Stephen A is with Shannon. And he's been great because when I went through what I was going through at Fox, he was there. When I was going through what is this, he was calling anything I can do. can I do? I won't get into private conversations that we have because that's between he and I.

Right. But there are a lot of other people, a lot. Well, I shouldn't say a lot, a lot of the parts of land. There were a few, quite a few. But you know what? I was, I've been down before.

This public lashing and ridicule and scorn and humiliation. Been there. Take your lungs. But it took me a while to realize, like, hold on. You call the people that you're closest to. Brother, mom, sister, kids, best friend, bucket burns. You explained to them what?

They say, bro, we good. Once I got to that, Oh, Joe, you and I talked about this. Man, look, it is what it is. I'm going to be all right. Hey, I ain't even want to hear it. We good. Sunshine follows rain.

What time, what's how the next show? Hey, Joe, that's all I want to know. What time is the next show? That's exactly what he said. He didn't have a minute. I know what that's like. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, we will get back to that, but our very, very special guest is joining us. Cleveland Brown's rookie sensation running back. Quinn Sean Judkins joins us. Q, what's going on, bro? What's so? What's up? No, he good, he good. Now, what's up?

You were housing that thing this week. Well, you've been housing it since you got back, but you were really housing that thing. You, hey, house called, fought. Seriously. I'm out. Hey, I had to do. yeah how you how you feeling has your experience so far in the NFL been is it has it been everything you expected it to be as opposed to you know the transition from college to

oh yeah most definitely I feel like it's been more so surreal not only for myself but for my family to get to experience everything you know get to meet a lot of the players um and that whole nine yards man just getting the finally touchdown you know being through going through so much a slow start to the beginning of the season and shoot just everything taken off on the land man that's what's up you're from Ohio I'm from Alabama I'm from our

Montgomery oh man how did let you get out of how did you get out of how did you get Wade Ohio State from fama NIL uh that's the way to keep that's the way to keep

no seriously oh man I think for myself just in college man I ended up going to Ole Miss for two years I played there in SEC had a lot of success. And then my last year of college for my junior year, I was like, man, I want to go somewhere I can compete for a national championship. So I ended up at Ohio State.

I felt like that was a great situation. Coach Day was a great type program, a lot of talented players there. So, you know, I was like, you know, it's no better place to go than Ohio State. So I end up there. Hey, Q, tell me something. You, SEC freshman year, right? I was, like, nominee for it or something like that. But, yeah, I think I was a freshman year.

I can't even remember. So you left the SEC to go to Ohio State, huh? Yep, yep. Hey, that bag different, ain't it, man? For me, it wasn't about that, though. You know, like, for many different people, like, in the game, it's about money, the car. For me, it was, like, an end of day, bro, I'm a competitor.

I'm trying to go out and, you know, kill it. Like, I'm trying to go out and, you know, win, games as much as possible because at Ole Miss I was putting up 15 hundred yards I'm getting 15 touchdowns a year so I'm like man no I'm doing all that but that's not what fulfills me that's that don't make me happy so that wasn't what I was chasing oh you wanted that title okay cue cue cue hey don't give me that politically not for real come on hey this is your boy come on don't don't do me like that real hey okay okay okay I'm I'm a let's you have it. Hey, one thing, I want to talk about, I'm going to talk about the Cleveland Browns,

and I want, I want to, from the outside looking, I don't think you quite understand. Obviously, you, you're in position, but me on the outside looking in, because there's been, there's been controversy at the quarterback position, do you understand that you are the bail cow, that you are the offense? That often goes as you go. Most of the times, it's a star player, a star quarterback, or a star receiver but you are the nucleus of that offense and as you go the rest of the team goes do you quite understand that just yet i think just because it's so early on in my career i quite don't get it yet but at the same time i understand like the situation like and coach defansky's it's offensive if you go back to nick chub and kareem hunt and a different guys playing in

this offense, it's always been able to lean on the run game. And I think that's what's very beneficial about planning this offense. So I think, you know, just in my mindset, man, like my mentality, regardless of who we playing that week, what plays we're installing, just had a staying determination, bro, to just go out there and, like, just leave it all out on the field. But knowing the particular, like, situation, like, yeah, for sure, knowing that this is a run-first offense. I'm already going to

Yeah, you're in the West Coast system. In the West Coast system, that's all the end. You put your foot to dirt and you get down here. And then everything comes after that because now we're going to boot. We're going to play action. Because, look, I play, I played in this offense. Now, a lot of it's maybe changed the wording or the herbage has changed,

but you go back and look at the Broncos offense with TD and Clinton Fortis and Mike Anderson and Ruben drones. And you look at the way the team run this offense. When you got a running back, when you got a guy, Kristen McCaffrey in San Francisco, Karen Williams with the Rams,

you look at Josh Jacobs with the Packers. When you look, when the run game is efficient, this offense is almost impossible. Almost, literally, because I feel like that's when we're our best. When we're clicking in the rank game, like I feel like as a team, man, we're unstoppable.

And that's where we continue to get better at and consistently try to go out there on Sundays and put it all together because I feel like, like you said, man, that run game is what really helps us. What was your expectations when you, what was your goals? When you came in, you were dealing what you did,

you was dealing with what you was dealing with in the offseason. I think you got uninvited to the draft, but you were going through what you was going through. You was like, okay, this is going to be behind me. And I'm going to have to put what I, what's this is, I got to put that behind. And I got to go somewhere. I got to perform at an elite level.

I got to play like I know I can play. What was your expectations for your rookie season? I think for myself, it was more so a testament to, you know, what I'm doing when nobody was looking because when I wasn't in the building, you know, like I didn't have a strength staff. I didn't have a coach to talk to to to go over plays. I didn't have every resource that I had while I'm here in Cleveland now. So it was like the amount.

a dedication that it took for me to give everything I had and try to perfect my crowd when I wasn't around and then come back like it was like it was nothing and try to get on that same page with no training camp um no no football for what three months so not having those things and just training making sure I'm mentally sharp so when when I get that call and I go back I'm ready I think that was my things that I really heart the most also other than like physical activity was really just making sure you know like I'm mentally sharp

just because you go through so much man and a lot of people don't understand they'll never know what it's like you know especially being an athlete and the thing that we deal with but yeah bro just really just making sure I'm mentally there all the way sharp 100%

I love that what you said what you were doing when no one was watching because discipline is doing what you should do versus what you want to do. I'm sure you wanted to, hey, the boys kicking it. They do and they pay, hey, let me go over here. Let me part, let me kick it. But the discipline, stay true because I got bigger issue.

You're the first Browns player with three rushing touchdowns in the game since Nick Chubb did it, September 18th, 2022. You had 84 yards rushing three touchdowns and your rookie of the week nominee. When you see things like you've done doing things that hadn't been done by a Browns player in three years, If you're doing, you know, being nominated for a rookie year. Look, we all want validation.

We put that kind of time in. We put that kind of working in the off season. And to see, you plant a tree, you wanted to bear fruit. Yeah. You're bearing fruit. Yes. How pleasing, how gratifying, how satisfying is it for like, okay, everything that I did in the offseason, everything that I went through, this is more gratified.

It makes it even more like I know I was doing the right thing. For me, it more so, like, I'm doing one of those people where it's like, man, I'm just, I'm just trying to chop wood. I'm just trying to chop wood. You know, what I'm doing is, that's cool. But at the same time, like, you know, I got bigger goals. I know how I view myself as a competitor, how good I want to be. So I don't really think about it.

But at the same time, when I look up and knowing what I've been through, knowing, like, how I persevered, knowing what, like, different challenges I'll face. And then you see the light at the end of the tunnel. It motivates me personally to, like, you know, keep going. strive to be better. So I think just that motivation you get from in the hunger. Hey, Q, man as a rookie in the NFL, bro, living the American dream. Tell me, tell me what it's like.

Because when I look back, when I was a rookie playing in the NBA role, I couldn't sleep, man, I couldn't sleep. I was so geek for the moment because I'm coming. Because when I came in the NBA in 01, it's when Jordan came back, you know, Mac, Coe, Vince caught all them dudes who was, you know, they was at the apex. So I couldn't sleep nights before games because I was too neat them

for the moment. I, man, I'm not playing. So what is it like as a rookie living the American dream? You've probably been, you know, wishing for this moment since you was a kid and now that you're actually in it. What is it like? Oh, man, I think for me, man, like

just finally being here, this is something you think about your whole life. Like, you work your whole life for this. like you worked since you was this big like to get to this to this moment so it's like you finally here but what i realized was it's like okay it's not how fast you can get here is how long you can stay so so so my thing is you know doing everything in my power to you know be able to go out there and do this have the same amount of success not only for this year but for a long time and keep that same discipline so that's the one thing i did learn i was

say it's that you know just having so many good vets too you got a lot of good vets in the locker room and you meet a lot of good players around the league to develop a lot of relationships I think in college is more so very uh compared to the NFL I would say it's kind of individualized just because guys aren't in locker rooms as long as they are at different organizations in the league so I think in the league man you always have people that you can lean on get advice from because like coming into this you know a lot of stuff moves super fast so Having somebody that you can ask different questions to, so you're not just hit by the blind, for real, for that. Right.

Hey, how has the body holding up? Good. I feel, I feel good. You know, I used to get, I got a lot of carries when I was at Ole Miss. I used to get a lot of carries. And then my last year at Ohio State, I think I had like maybe 300, 255. So I was used to being a bail count guy, you know. Right.

So I feel good, though. Okay. As the quarterback, look, he started out, you know, you know, you know, game. Gabriel gets drafted and the Shadour comes in and we know what Shadour, we know what that last name brings. You got Joe Flacco, you got Pickett, and they're, okay, we're going to move on. We go in this direction. And now has that the quarterback, the situation with Gabriel and Shadour,

is he going to get reps? Is he going to start? Is he going to play? Has that impacted the locker room in any way? No, I think with our team, we're all so close. And we got a lot, we got so many young guys, man. It's like in our locker room. We genuinely, it's almost.

like you in college again it feels like for real for real like i'm like i'm full of young guys but man it's just like the energy there regardless of who playing those two guys they always support each other man like it was a clip i seen i like that on um the internet the other day and it was like them walking down the sideline and just talking laughing about i think we had just scored a touchdown or something but that's who they genuinely are that's who they truly are they are competitive at the same time they want what's best for each other and i don't think it's ever been oil or any, any words said by anybody on our team, like, about who's our quarterback. We all 100% support Dylan.

I even played him when I was at Ohio State twice. I played him at Oregon once, and then I played him again in Pasadena, California at the Rose Bowl. So I got to see him and how he is as a quarterback. He's super talented, bro. He's, like, super smart. He processes really fast, and he's a great player. So I'm excited to see how he developed in his career. that's amazing man cue thanks for stopping by thanks for giving some time

congratulations on your early success continue success stay healthy and uh you know when it's all said done at the end of the year you go over a thousand yards come back and tell us how you thank you all right later yo cue hey tell denzil ward he can't stop hey look i'll be telling my practice he'd be he became mad i'd be like bro i've been that corner on your ad boy i'm 220 i'll start Still do it. Yeah, I'm like that. I'm going to hit them, though.

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