Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Russell Wilson dominates, Brock Purdy excuses, Saquon Barkley’s revenge

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Mike Tomlin giving veteran Russell Wilson the start over Justin Fields for the Pittsburgh Steelers in a 30-15 win over Aaron Rodgers, Davante A...dams and the New York Jets on Sunday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho GO IN on Brock Purdy and the injury riddled San Francisco 49ers after losing to an undefeated Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, destroy the New York Giants after getting embarrassed by their former RB Saquon Barkley and the Philadelphia Eagles and much more!03:28 - Show starts03:35 - Intro06:35 - Jets lose to Steelers21:50 - Chiefs beat 49ers44:40 - Lions beat Vikings56:40 - Packers beat Texans01:02:00 - Bengals beat Browns01:09:45 - Eagles beat Giants(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:45 So thank you. Ocho, let's get right into the ball game. The Steelers beat the Jets 37-15. They got a great night from Nigel Harris, back to back 100 yards game. 21 rushes, 100 yards, 102 yards, one touchdown. Russell Wilson, 16 of 29, 264, two touchdowns. George Pickens had his best game of the season, Ocho. Five for Buck
Starting point is 00:08:06 11 and a couple of circus catches and one touchdown. Friar Mute, two catches, 51 yards and a great one hand catch to keep a drive alive. The Steelers played extremely well. They took the ball away from the Jets twice and they roll at home 37-15. Who's the quarterback? What you like? Who was the quarterback tonight? Yeah, Russell Wilson. And I'm not talking about Russell. I ain't talking about the basketball Russell. I'm not talking about Russell athletic. I'm talking about motherfucking Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Let him cook. That's what he was doing tonight. He was cooking. I told you, I told you, listen, he should have been the starter. Justin Fields played well. Let me start with that chat. Justin Fields played extremely well.
Starting point is 00:08:52 But tonight, because of the running game, and obviously the receiver stepped up tonight and played very well. Well, the passing game looked very good tonight. The little moon balls he kept throwing, the little floating balls. George picking the 50-50 ball He coming down with that thing every time
Starting point is 00:09:08 Every time that guy defense was suffocating though that guy damn Steelers defense was suffocating tonight They look really good on the offense. They look really good on defense. I Didn't see I didn't see just I didn't see TJ want enough. I didn't see I didn't see him enough The just did very well. Some of them. They did a great job of chipping in motion. If you notice, Brie Hall, the tiny, everybody. I'm not going to let him beat me. Hey, hey, Bini.
Starting point is 00:09:34 God damn, what's the nickel name? The rookie that Bini. Oh, 31 Bishop. I said, Bini, Bini Bishop. Bini Bishop. Yeah, Bini Bishop. Number 31. Phil there. That young for that nice. Benny Bishop, right? Benny Bishop. Yeah, Benny Bishop. Hey, number one, Philadelphia. That young for that nice. He's nice like, yeah, I'm somebody he's so nice.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And I hate to I hate to do the comparison for some reason. You remind me of God damn Brian Brands tonight. He was all over the field. He was everywhere making play out the plate. Is it just not this is not the
Starting point is 00:10:02 first time I see him stand out on film or stand out on TV when they're playing defense. That's motherfucking nice. So, Beanie, how you say it? I wanna mess up his name. Beanie Bishop. Beanie Bishop Jr.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Boy, if you see this, boy, you the real deal. Boy, how's that your boy? Boy, you the real one. Other than that, the Steelers are good, huh? I told you, all the people talking shit, why you got rush starting? Why do you buy the bitches Justin Fields? They're winning tonight. Now you saw why let Russell will cook the mesh Let me ask you a question
Starting point is 00:10:35 If the Steelers take the ball away like they did tonight With Justin Fields like they've done because they had a winning record when Justin was in there and they make a concerted effort now this was the first game if you notice they made a concerted effort to get George Pickens the ball you said y'all need to dread the ball to George Pickens y'all need to put the ball they watch the show on Mike Tom that was the show okay we did why did he do that with Justin field Justin field say why y'all make a concerted effort it's gonna have me throw the ball but you got to make this old Joe a couple of the catches the catches that he was making the catches that prior moves was making I'm like the dude the ball hit the guy on the back or shoulder pads
Starting point is 00:11:14 He catches the guy pulls out pulls it out. It pops out. He catches it again Yeah, now he's gonna make the one thing about that young man that he gonna make circus catches. He's gonna be like, he's gonna have a lack of concentration, laughs and judgment and drop a routine easy payers. And you're like, bro, I just saw you take one up the top of your shoe from behind your back. How you drop this? We hit you right between the one and the four.
Starting point is 00:11:42 But if you look at the way they ran the ball Oh, you know tonight with not you know night and you know, I see Harris remind me of on Like his gate is small. He does, you know, it is running gate is small. He not fast He's I don't know how to fucking explain it. Remember when Marion Bobby was the tote the rock Yeah, I swear. God. Yeah Marion and Barbara, they run angry, but they smooth the tail the way they run. Yes, you know, when Pacheco run, you can tell like he like he trying like like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a smooth, like organized chaos type anger, the way Nigel Harris and Marion Bob run the ball.
Starting point is 00:12:21 He look good tonight too. He look good tonight. Yeah, but, you know, give the Steelers credit. and Bob run the ball. He looked good the night too. He looked good tonight. Yeah. But you know, give the Steelers credit. I mean, Mike Tomlin, he knows what was at stake. They needed to win this game. They had to win this game. You make a decision like that.
Starting point is 00:12:34 When the guy is not like you lost games because Justin Fields played bad. And I think the thing is that you minimizing, they still minimizing. They're not gonna take, they're not just gonna spray the ball all over the field. That's not the type of offense that they have. Give Arthur Smith credit.
Starting point is 00:12:49 If you notice, they started the game off with what? Play action. Boot. Let's slow this pass rush down, Ocho. And let's settle in. Go ahead. I have a question. Even though it's not their offense,
Starting point is 00:13:00 I think you think about the offense Steelers had when they had when they had Ben Roethlisberger, when they threw they do all over the place, I think now going back to the old Scott the old-school style of 2000s Jerome Bettis Really Parker? Yeah, you know running the ball and we run the ball first open up the pass But I think the fact that you have a Russell Wilson who come from offense where he can facilitate the ball and throw all the throws, whether they be short, intermediate or deep. I think the playbook opens up a little bit more as opposed to if Justin Fields was in there quarterback. I think just based off experience alone. It's really hard to say Joe, because the Steelers really dominated this game.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I mean, once they got into the game, they settled in, they really dominated my only concerns. And I've said this and everybody told me, Oh, all they need is a quarterback. I said, let's just say for the sake of argument, the Jeff defense can't hold people to 10 and 13 points. Then what I said, now, if you go study history, if you look at historically great defenses, you look at really good defenses, they don't stay good. Everything.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I mean, you go look at the 2000 Ravens, the 2001 Ravens had a good defense. They weren't 2000. Go look at the 02 Bucks. The 03 Bucks had a good, they won the 02 Bucks. Go look at the Legion of Boom, the year they beat the Broncos in New York in the Super Bowl. The next, they were good. They weren't bad. And so all I'm saying is what happened that they have a little slippage because
Starting point is 00:14:31 you're saying that our defense is good enough to hold us down. All we need is a quarterback. Well, there are times that Aaron Rogers look, he don't look like the old Aaron Rogers. He looks like an old Aaron Rogers. One thing I will say is the just defense isn isn't the Jets defense that we're used to seeing. They, they, they were, they were, they were shaking tonight. Sometimes they'll, they'll, they'll have spurts and where they look good.
Starting point is 00:14:54 The Jets offense throughout the entirety of the season, sometimes Aaron Rodgers looks like Aaron Rodgers and sometimes he doesn't. So the offense as well, it has flashes and spurts of, Oh shit, don't be nice. So they have a great offensive series. Then they have full series where it looked like, well, what the hell are y'all doing? Y'all look, y'all look, y'all look lost out there. So when they get to a point, when they get to a point on, when the defense could put it together,
Starting point is 00:15:21 like we were used to seeing last year and the offense plays a little bit more consistently, just, just a little bit more consistently, just just a little bit more consistently, you know, make some of those catches, make some of those throws, convert some of those third downs. I think they'll be all right, but then you get it done. They need to get it done now. It's a breeze. Now. Breeze Hall, 12 for 38, they have 15 cares for 54 yards.
Starting point is 00:15:46 But what am I going to do with that? Oh, Joe, you're not going to be able to do nothing. That puts so that puts so much pressure on Rogers. And listen, guys, it's OK. He's not what he once was. He's not he's not like you. You said, oh, he has he has some good moments. He hadn't played a clean game.
Starting point is 00:16:05 No, we're used to seeing Aaron Rogers play great for the entirety of the game. He is not one of these guys that he played like like a moment hero moment there. That's Aaron Rogers. He's historically great. He's transcendent great. He hasn't been there. They need him to be that. That's what they that's what they gave, what they gave up.
Starting point is 00:16:30 That's why they gave it up. You know, also, if Aaron Rodgers to you, based on what you see, based on hell, what all of us have seen is he's still good. He still has flashes of greatness and shows it. But the fact that he's not the Aaron Rodgers he used to be, and that means the people around him have to be that much better. The people around him have to be
Starting point is 00:16:49 a little bit more consistent than he is. So sometimes the receivers, I need you to save the day. Sometimes the ball might be off a little bit. I need you to save the day. Sometimes you got to save your quarterback because he's not the same as he used to be, as opposed to back then, if it was the old Green Bay Aaron Rodgers,
Starting point is 00:17:04 you know what? I'm going to say, y'all don't worry about it. I got it. And that is time I'm a little older and I'm not the same as I used to be. I need you to have my back. I agree with you. I agree with you. And it's been, I mean, he's 40. He's coming off a serious injury.
Starting point is 00:17:28 He's on a different team. He's not in Green Bay. This is a different person in his ear. You know, for the longest time, it was Nathaniel Hackett for the first four or five games. And now he has a different someone, Todd Downing. I think that's his name. That's in his ear.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Right. It's different. It. Right. It's different. It's different. He's different. And it's okay to admit that. I mean, what we've got to get out of doing on show a lot of times when we critique a historically great player, if we say he or she is not playing well, currently people think like you're trying to diminish what they've already done. I can't take those. We can't take those MVPs away from Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:18:07 We can't take that Super Bowl away from him. We can't take away those All-Pros all the times he's going to the Pro Bowl. We're talking about in the game. We're talking about this season. We're talking about right now. So I need my viewing and listening audience to get out of that thinking, that thought process. Because we say a person is not playing well, it doesn't diminish what he or she has already accomplished. We're talking about right now.
Starting point is 00:18:32 That's what we're critiquing. We're not critiquing their career. There'll be a time and a place where they'll say, okay, Ocho, what do you think about this person's career? Now we have to bring in everything in its totality. But at currently, all we're talking about is this year. We're talking about the 2024 Jets. We're talking about the 2024 Aaron Rodgers. We're not talking about that Aaron Rodgers
Starting point is 00:18:52 that's won the MVP. We're not talking about the Aaron Rodgers that went to and won a Subo and was the Subo MVP. We're not talking, we're only talking about 2024 Aaron Rodgers and how and why he's not playing up to par and why the Jets aren't better than what they are. That's the only thing we're talking about. I see you at that Russ.
Starting point is 00:19:14 So I see you cooking boy. He played well. He was a 629 to 64 to touchdowns. No interception of clean game 36 to rush to him for the Steelers 149 to touchdowns. George Pickens, by far, had his best game of the season. Five catches for Buck 11 and one touchdown long of forty four. Oh, nine targets. He played extremely well. They played extremely well.
Starting point is 00:19:39 They did a great job of neutralizing the Jets pass rush and give those guys give the stealer credit this they have the same record five and two there's the same record with the the Ravens right the Ravens play tomorrow night they play tapeter that's gonna be a that's gonna be a good game tomorrow night boys the double-headed oh I hate when they use double-headed cuz now how we what game we supposed to watch I'm watching the Ravens in the Bucks you Who's up? Who's up again? You only got one TV? You ain't got two TVs?
Starting point is 00:20:10 Man, why would I have two? You're on split screen? Time out, time out, time out. Why would I have multiple TVs running and that causes a spike in my goddamn light bill? Why would I do that? Well, because that's a part of your job. That's like, well, why would I buy a nice outfit to go to work?
Starting point is 00:20:29 Why would I buy a nice, because that's your job requires you to have slacks or khakis and a button and a college shirt. No, listen, on my TV, I don't know what kind of TV you got, but my TV got Pup. I mean, PIP, it's called Pitcher in Pitcher. Okay, yeah, do that.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah, I'm gonna see if it works. But who is the second game? Who does the game? Don't start me lying. Arizona in the Chargers, I think. Hell no. Who's gonna be watching that? Unless you were the Chargers of the Carters. We are, Cubs. We gotta talk about it. We gotta be watching the Cubs. We gotta talk about it.
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Starting point is 00:26:08 Get George picking the ball. Yes. I feel great. Ocho, the 49ers remain the only, the lone unbeaten as they go to Levi Stadium and take down the 49ers 28-18. Mahomes threw two and take down the 49ers, 28, 18 Mahomes through two interceptions against the 49ers. He has eight on the seasons. One was deflected on the deflected pass. The other was when Xavier were they fell on the route.
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Starting point is 00:27:06 Brock Purdy, 17 to 31, two, one, two, three, three interceptions, zero touchdown. A QBR of 13. Mason, they had 14 carries for 58 yards. Brock Purdy had eight for 27, 24 rushes, 101 yards. Hey, now, okay. I wouldn't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Okay. Okay. Uh, 49 is still as my property. Healy y'all been telling me a Lee. Hey, Devo out. Joanne Jennings out. I got hurt. Christopher, henings out. I got her. Christopher, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I mean. I mean, I'm not I'm not taking up, I'm not taking up a pretty, but how efficient is he supposed to be when your superstars are going like that? When the players that make that make that that make that team go or make that offense go, what are you supposed to do? That's like if you got an engine, but ain't got no belt, the engine run. But the car can't move because they know better than the goddamn engine. I don't even know what that is.
Starting point is 00:28:13 We don't make sense. But do you see it makes sense? But when Lamar didn't have receivers, we didn't give him Lamar. No, when Patrick Mahone's guys were dropping passes, they out of the game. We didn't give him no excuse So now we make it We were saying he's a product of the system I don't begrudge him for being in a system to have D boy and have I you and have all those weapons I don't begrudge that but let's call it what it is
Starting point is 00:28:40 It's almost a situation like Joe he has everything Let's remove that head. Just see what he can do. Hey Joe Joe gonna get it done. He has everything. Let's remove that head just see what he can do. Hey Joe, Joe gonna get it done anyway now. Don't do that. I know we... No, I'm saying Joe in the Bible. Oh, that's my nigga Joe. But cool, bro. Yeah, look at Joe. You remember the day, the devil said of course he's gonna praise the devil.
Starting point is 00:29:00 The devil told you, God is like, yeah, he gonna praise you. You gave him everything. He said remove that head and and your cousin's very maker. And listen, that goes for a lot of things in life, too. Some of your best friends, some of the people you think is your friends. Tell them no one time. Watch what happened. That's what anybody. That's what I saw.
Starting point is 00:29:21 50 autographs, I don't sign 51, asshole. Dang! What the fuck? I've been to the airport all the time, Ocho. And you know, they're like, hey, you mind if I get a picture? I said, man, man, I wish I could. I said, but if I take one, I mean, then everybody's gonna start. But hey, nobody but if I take one, I mean, then everybody go start,
Starting point is 00:29:46 but hey, nobody's going to notice it. So nobody's going to see me with my, me and you standing side by side, my arm around you. Nobody's going to see me. Nobody's going to see that. And it's like, damn. Yeah. Nobody's going to recognize you.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I said, you did? I said, what? Hey. But that's, but that's how it is. Oh Joe. And you learn to accept those things. You learned that every, like the, you learned a lot about a you learned a lot about people.
Starting point is 00:30:12 When you tell them, when you tell them no, and when you make them angry, you tell them, no, you make them angry. You find out a lot. Take it. I'm like, damn, I told you one, no one time. One time I say no. Yeah. And now I'm a mofo I ain't ish
Starting point is 00:30:29 I ain't never done nothing for you before well god am I just okay if I ain't done today sometimes you got to start writing stuff down you do for people and then remind them later on when they kind of forget when you say no like listen, this ain't the right time for this, right? Because here's the thing oh jump no because here's the thing you just have to put limits on what you give Takers never put Ever exactly so I don't need to remind you I don't need to remind you Exactly. So I don't need to remind you. I don't need to remind you.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Oh Joe, I really, there's only been a handful of times in my life, uh, that I've given something and I've made something in return. Normally if I give somebody that if it's a large sum, let's just say, I give somebody somebody I really know. I'll just ask the, Hey bro, it's like, Hey Sean, Hey bro, I need, I need you. I a favor. Okay, what is, hey, say no more, what is it? Bro, can you, can you slide me, can you slide me a hundred? A hundred dollars? No problem.
Starting point is 00:31:33 A hundred thousand. Oh, shut up. Oh, hey, hold up, wait, I got a question before you even finish the story. Yeah. Now if you have someone that needs 100000, now will they ever be in a position to be able to pay that back? Oh, how does that work? Do they have to pay you back or you let them know?
Starting point is 00:31:53 No, normally what I do, give me 50 of it back when you can. And let the other 50 go. I eat. OK, you're a real one. You're a real one. I like I like that. You like that? I like that. Yeah. Like, because the thing real one. You're a real one. I like that. I like that. I like that. Yeah. Like, cause the thing is, look, cause here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I look at like my friends, my true friends. If the roles were reversed, I can honestly say, no question. No question. Man, I tell the story and bucket to tell you, I had a Range Rover. I only had like 20,000 miles on it. And I was going to get it. The new, the new model was coming out.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And he said, man, homeboy, I said, uh, homeboy, I'm gonna get rid of my truck. You want it? He's like homeboy. I would, I would love to have it, but homeboy, I can't, I can't afford that. I say, I'll cut you a deal. Uh, the blue book on it was like 60. I said, I tell you what, can you swing 25? I say, I tell you what, can you swing 25? I say, I tell you what, I give me 25. I just got another four year extended warranty, which was about $6000. So it's about $66000 total. I said, give me 25 and I'll let you have it.
Starting point is 00:32:57 He said, you for real. So he go to the, he go to the credit union and it's like, he gave him the VIN number and everything and they pulled it up up and they say he only wants 25. That's my homeboy. And I only charge him 25 because I don't want him to feel like I wanted to feel like I paid for this. My homeboy. Right, right, right, right, right. So that's that's what I do for my homeboy.
Starting point is 00:33:17 But normally, if I give somebody a large sum of money, like somebody I know that obviously my brother, my sister. My brother, they know that he got to a baby. He never got to pay me back He can come get a minute. He come get a million right now and he good for it forever But my homeboys like people I know They good. They good. I don't ask for anything. But anytime I give anybody money I don't expect it back because I'm only gonna give you what I can afford to give And I expect it back. So I'm not going to give you something that
Starting point is 00:33:47 may I want to be going to pay back. And then I don't want you to avoid me, you know, some people you get from from you hear from the no mo. And when I think about that, I think about, you know, it's funny. I think about the friends I have like that with the with the roles reverse. If I needed it like. Like I'm thinking about who is really in a position where if I was f'd up, like they really got me and it was like, it would be no.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah. What's this for? Man, I ain't got like nothing. If I only if I was called to and I was in an unfortunate situation and I say T boy, hey boy, I need you. And he gonna say what number and how much, what's your route number? Nothing else.
Starting point is 00:34:37 If I call T.J., who's Mizada? I call T.J. I say T boy, hey boy, it ain't looking up boy. sundown over here right now, baby That's something that can you put some on the floor for your boy? I'm gonna pick it up And TJ gonna be like man, what you doing here? Get here get on me for a little bit Yeah, man, man. Give me your bank information. No questions asked at all bank information, no questions asked at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 That's it. Nothing. And the same, the same, the same go for them, but they, they, they, but that's a great feeling to have the whole show to know you in a situation that if the roles were reversed, I'm very fortunate. God bless me. God is what they were on me. And I've been able to bless my homeboys, you know, like bucket always every game.
Starting point is 00:35:24 He's always, I always fly him out. my I always bring he go to the Super Bowl. He's been every every every major event. When I went to the Vision to Hall of Fame, I went to the Bronco Ring of Fame. I was Colorado Sports Hall of Fame, the Division two Hall of Fame. Everything I've been to, he's been there. He's a homeboy, a and he be a he'll he'll call, he'll call Shelly, I want to, you ain't gotta pay for that, bro. I got you.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I mean, he always offering to pay. And that's all I can ask for, man, hey, man, I don't want nothing. Hey, he come up and stay in Atlanta, hey, homeboy, I got a, bro, why you got a hotel room? Even when I'm not there, bro, you know, you got a place to stay. Same thing with Burns. He coming through with his wife and he going to see the kids. Everybody's there to create. I ain't there. You good. That's how I am with my friends.
Starting point is 00:36:14 They come when I was in the league, but also they would come for the Super Bowl. I'm working because, you know, I got the NFL. I'm doing stuff in the NFL. And they they're eating up all my food. I come home hungry. Man, they there eating up all my food. I come home hungry. Man, who done ate all the food? Yeah. But if I'm cool, I rock with you, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I rock with you hard. That's why I'm a man. Because I'm very fortunate, like I said, Ocho, I'm fortunate and I know if the roles were reversed, ain't no question in my mind, I could call them up and what I do for them they would do for me. I got a small group. I got a small group like that too. Similar to that of your friends, you know, like Bucket and those that's been around you for a long time. You know, I got my Cincinnati crew.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That same, same, but I remember I got lost. Quick, quick little story. Quick little story. Yeah. I got drafted, obviously, you know, drafts in April. So, you know, you go in the following day and you're supposed to meet the coaches, meet, you know, facility. So I did all that. I go driving around the city. And back then, it's 2000. The GPS wasn't on the phone yet. So, of course, here I go.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I just venture out on my own. I get lost. I get lost. I find a car wash. I pull over to the car wash. The person, my homeboy, Jermaine Boy. I know a lot of people in Cincinnati might be watching. Met Jermaine Boy, man. I never forget. Asking for directions. Told him who I was, man. I just got drafted to the Bengals, but I'm lost right now, man.
Starting point is 00:37:42 If you could help me find my way back to the stadium, you know, I'd be grateful. He got in this car, drove me all the way back to the Bengals, but I'm lost right now. Man, if you could if you could help me find my way back to the stadium, you know, I'd be grateful he got in this car, drove me all the way back to the stadium. Man, we've been friends. You've been friends ever since. So now it's twenty twenty four. That was 2001. That's twenty three years. Twenty three years, you know, and if any if anything ever happened
Starting point is 00:38:03 or if I need something I could call him I got my homeboy. I grew up with he grew up three doors down from me rishard, you know If you if you're in Miami you in the chat, you know doing Anything I need That's that's great, man That's how I am. Oh, even people that you serve them provide a service for me. Oh Joe Yeah Not that hard to find. Yes They provide a service for me. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Not the hardest.
Starting point is 00:38:27 It's hard to find. Like I said, me and Burns been friends 30 plus years, me and Bucket coming up on them, they're 40 years. We were both a bucket with my teammate in college. Started in 88 Burns with my teammate in Denver in 94. And everybody I was cool with everybody, everybody I would call. I remember a fraction of my socket. This is how me and Burns got cool. I fractured my eye socket. And and so, you know, I obviously I couldn't drive, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Man, I'm hungry. Everybody I call now, I'm sorry, Sean. Man, I can't. I got, you know, got such a such a time. Got this going on. I can't. I see, man. And I remember getting his number. I said, let me call. I say, I call it. I say, hey, Burns, you like, man, and I remember getting his number. I said, let me call. I said, I call it. I say, Hey Burns, he like, man, what's up?
Starting point is 00:39:08 I said, man, I need you to do me a favor. I said, man, go to Wendy's. Give me a double, give me a double, a double cheeseburger, fries and a large coke. He said, Hey, he said, let me get my daughter. Let me get my daughter situated cause I got to bring her with me. And I got you.
Starting point is 00:39:28 That's all I needed to know. He could say, man, I got my daughter, Michelle gone, blah, blah, blah. That's what he said. He said, let me get her situated, get her in the car. I'll be right there. Homeboy. You'd never forget stuff like that. Oh, never get stuff like that though. Never forget stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And it didn't, you know, it's small. It's something so small too. Something so small based on circumstance can mean so much and it lasts forever. It lasts forever. My grandmother in the hospital. My grandma in the hospital in Savannah.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Hey Bucky, do me a favor. Go by and ask them if they want anything to eat. He go by. Hey, bucket, do me a favor. Go by and ask them, do they want anything to eat? He go by, hey, y'all need anything? What's close by? It ain't got to be close by. What you want? You won't carry here. You want barns? What you want? You want seafood? You want this?
Starting point is 00:40:20 Hey, they they good. They good. That's That's a great feeling. Since Kyle Shanahan took over 2017, the 49ers are 0-5 against the 49ers. Excuse me. They're 0-5 against the Chiefs. The night of situation turned dismal to disastrous. Jawan Jennings, he was already out. Devo Samuels played three snaps left due to illness. Brandon Ayute went down just before halftime and what is feared to be a
Starting point is 00:40:45 serious, yeah, Christian McCaffrey continues to be absent. Shana have a Shannon hands off. This was a shell of itself. Cow just lecture Brock Purdy for five minutes at his locker. Purdy listened, said nothing, never seen anything like it. It's tough. Oh Joe is hard to win in this league. It's hard when your stars, when they're not aligned,
Starting point is 00:41:11 which means they're not there. I mean, you lose Debo, you lose Ayuk, you lose Jennings. Those are your three top receivers. So think about it. You barely, you barely dress five, you barely, you only dress like five receivers. Five. You dress five. So now you got guys playing that. They normally special teams guys. Yeah, they get reps in practice, but they're not really, now they got to play major.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Debo leaves. So you might have had six because Debo was already out so you had another body up now Brandon Ayute goes out The Dibo plays three snaps Ayute goes out Ocho now you get guys now. It's easy. Oh, I'm ready Damn we play the cheese Give me two times whoubeau champs. Oh, they good. Oh, great defense.
Starting point is 00:42:09 With a good defense. Some corners and some corners and safeties that can play some godd*** ball. You dealing with McDuffie. McDuffie, he doesn't get the credit, but I'm not so sure. I don't know who you think the best deals, but he ain't he ain't saying he I ain't saying he talked to a top three, but I don't know if he two or three. That's all I'm saying. I see.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I see me today. They call it. They call the PI on in a day where he ran the route for the receiver. He ran the route for the receiver and I'm like, Hey ref, you can throw that. You can't throw that. It's the game of football. Sometimes it hands you a little bit, but if he running the route for the man, what are we doing? Yeah. It ain't my fault. It ain't no my fault that he tipped in the route because DB's
Starting point is 00:43:03 can read you to, Hey, you start the lead if you want to, they'll run it for you. And the funny thing about it is, they were in condensed splits with the bunch formation and he ran the route normally, I would think that would be a little bit more confusing as a DB, cause you don't know which way people is finna go.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I mean, that ain't that one number film study. Absolutely. I'm looking at the formation. I'm looking at the area of the field and I'm looking at down in distance. That's going to a yeah. Oh Joe, I'm looking at area to feel. Down in distance. So I look at your split.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Mm hmm. Oh, second down. Oh man, you don't tighten this down. Okay. You think you think I don't know what you're going to be going across, huh? Yeah. Now a lot of times a lot of times when they stack it, they'll like to run.
Starting point is 00:44:02 They like to run the outside guy. So they got one to be over here. They like to let these guys push your head, let him slide through because you've got to run over traffic. Hey, that my Duffy. That's one of the reasons why they kind of let Snead is like, okay, yeah, we love to have to, but this young guy coming in, Oh Joe, he go have a key, go get, you gonna have to pay have a key. You're going to have to pay him a King's ransom. Now you have to pay him a King's ransom.
Starting point is 00:44:30 You got to realize he was first team all pro. And he don't look like he's slipping. It don't look like he looked like he headed for another first. Hell, hold on. Speaking of, speaking of slipping, hold on the other, the Kansas City Chiefs offensive slipping. I'm home. If you look at my homes, you look at his numbers, his TD, the intercepts ratio,
Starting point is 00:44:54 Hey, anybody else? If it was anybody else, but obviously because it's the Chiefs, obviously because it's my home, because it's a two-time Super Bowl champion, he gets a pass. He gets a pass. For some reason, at the beginning of the season, they always look like this. Or his numbers don't look like what they should look like. They still need another target.
Starting point is 00:45:17 They need another weapon. Yeah. They need another weapon. I don't know if I've seen Ocho this. Ocho, I mean, this 154, these 140s for an entire game, he used to have that in a quarter. You remember when they played Tampa that year and Tyree had 202 in the first quarter?
Starting point is 00:45:33 I remember the game, yeah. I remember that. And the dude had three, like 370 at the hal. We're used to seeing, I mean, he has the highest passing yards per game average. He's like to like to 94. I think he only has one game over 300. He might not have very many games.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I think the Super Bowl he had over 300 because it went to overtime. But but when you needed to make a play, oh, Joe, you see the road that he had. He get away from Warner. You know what? You talk about where he pumped fake, he did at the fake level. You notice, you notice players are scared to hit the quarterback. And now quarterbacks are having an opportunity to take advantage of, okay, I don't want to hit him.
Starting point is 00:46:20 And instead of pushing him out or hitting him and make sure he goes out of bounds, he stays in and keep on running. That was during our time, man. He would have been over there on the sidelines that were under the gatorade got them cooler. Oh, no, that's why I got, that's why guys is like, man, why'd you hit him? Man, you don't make me run all over here. I'm a lay his ass out.
Starting point is 00:46:43 They've got them big guys. They don't like running all the way over there for nothing. Don't choke. And to see you run out of bounds. Oh, I'm going to get his ass out. Them big guys, they don't like running all the way over there for nothing, don't they? And to see you run out of bounds, I'm going to get that lick on you. I'm going to get a hit on you. But give them credit, I'm not so sure that there's any other team that would be undefeated with the quarterback playing as bad as home. He's not playing well. And I'm not, you know, look, I'm not breaking news to anyone.
Starting point is 00:47:09 You watched the game. He hadn't played well. He's made plays in a timely manner. And he makes them when it matters most. He makes the damn plays when it matters most. Mahomes that we're used to seeing. The defense. No.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Kareem Hunt is better. God said, most definitely. Most definitely. The defense is carrying the cheese. The defense is carrying the cheese. Yes. Stick to sports, sports and politics don't mix or my personal favorite, shut up and dribble. I've heard these complaints
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Starting point is 00:51:17 It's Peter Schrager from the NFL Network's Good Morning Football and Fox's NFL Kickoff Show. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager, the podcast you find right here. In each episode of the season, I'm gonna take you inside and behind the scenes of the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. We're bringing the top GMs, top coaches,
Starting point is 00:51:35 the young coordinator you're getting to know. We're gonna give you the story behind the story, which you're probably not getting anywhere else. Like all pro Jets cornerback, Sauce Gardner. You know, as a defense, we looking forward to adding on where we left off last season and just continuing to get better. Like first year Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator, Zach Robinson. Bijon, he's got a ball every single play and he's going to make a play. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to
Starting point is 00:51:59 be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan, Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast. The music is awesome. It's like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schreger on the iHeartRadioApple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. The Lions. Woo, that was a... The Vikings fall from the undefeated as the Lions go into Minnesota and beat them. 31-29. Jerry Goff has nine touchdowns and 15 incompletions during the Lions current four-game
Starting point is 00:52:38 win streak. The Lions have scored 120 points over the past three games are the most of the three games span since they scored 125 in 1997 with the Eagles and 49ers sorting through a bunch of early season issues with the head to head road victory of the Vikings in their pocket. The Lions are the NFC team to beat the Lions gave up 383 yards, but when it counted late, they got off the field, give it to their offense. And guess what? Jerry golf went down the field, got in field goal range, they kick a walk off field goal,
Starting point is 00:53:11 Jameer gives 116 rush yards, collected another 144 rushing. He became the first Lions player with 150 plus scrimmage yards and two rushing touchdowns in a game since 2011. That game was good, boy. It it was Jerry golf was 22 or 25. Let me get you during golf stats or Joe 22 or 25 to 82 touchdown. Remember he had a game this season where he was 18 of 18. So he's 22 or 25 for two 82 touchdown clean. No picks. They rushed the ball 27 times 144 to touchdown.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I'm our rain state Brown, eight catches above 12, one touchdown Gail for 44, Kaleef Raymond three for 39, a tub Montgomery three for 39, the Porter, the only one that didn't do a whole lot was James. So funny is the fact that you just said that last week, James and Williams went off. Last week, James and Williams went off in a mon.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Say, Amon Ross, same Brown didn't really do anything this week. James and Williams didn't do much. And I'm saying Amon Ross, same Brown goes crazy. The balance Jameer gives one week. He has a good game. David Montgomery doesn't do much. Today, I think it's the first game this season that Montgomery hadn't scored a touchdown. Jameer Gibbs was on fire today, boy. He was on fire.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I think they were able to do so well offensively because they was able to run the ball. It made the made the pass game that much better. Oh, they don't run the ball. It made the, made the pass game that much better. Oh, they gonna run the ball now. Every time. You know, their coach believes in that. That's because running the football is a mentality. It's not about tricking somebody. It's about lining up and man them,
Starting point is 00:55:00 mano a mano, putting a hat and moving a man against his will. That's what the running game is about. It's about an attitude. Yeah. It's about I believe that I'm more physical than you and So now that sets up everything else Detroit. I Ain't breaking no news to nobody it's what legit don't you talk about Aaron Glenn in that defense now? Oh Yeah Oh, yeah, they're getting better. That goddamn Brian Branch. I know people probably tired of me talking about Brian Rand, Brian Brand. That boy is way nice.
Starting point is 00:55:32 He nice, depending on what packages in. Sometimes it is nickel. Sometimes that safety. Yep, man, all over the place. And they young. Yeah, they got a bunch of babies out there. Outside of Carlton Davis, I think Carlton Davis might be wrong, but Carlton Davis might be the oldest player and he ain't even old.
Starting point is 00:55:57 They look good. Terryon Arnold. Maybe he. And the boys had their hand full with Justin Jefferson and they did an okay job. Sam for 81, he was Sam for 81. He had eight targets, one touchdown. Uh, Addison had three for 66, Naylor had four for 76, but they did a job. Uh, Sam Donovan was 22 of 27, two 59, one touchdown, one exception.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Big, great job. They appreciate it. Uh, Aaron Jones running the ball extremely well again. Yeah. You still think they need to go to get somebody to, uh, replace Aiden? Hell yeah. I'm good. I'm going to get cross. Still think. Yeah. I'm going to get cropped.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Can you imagine what that defense would be with that kind of pressure? Now that'd be crazy. I'm trying to know. I got another one. I got another one for you just to throw it out there. Number one pick that went to Jacksonville a few years ago. A Walker. What you think?
Starting point is 00:56:56 No. Uh, no, I take, I'll take what I take. Absolutely. I was just, I was just I was a thing, Max Motor. Max Motor Max have what you can't teach. Yeah, he don't go now. He don't go that relentless effort. You can't go 24-7.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Hey, like look like a college frat boy. He don't go. The trade deadline is what, next week week next Tuesday or the this Tuesday? Next Tuesday. So a week from Tuesday. Oh Joe is the trade deadline. We don't see I wait here. What I wait. Hey, what y'all want for Max? I give you a first and a third. I give you a first this year, a third this year,
Starting point is 00:57:47 and I give you a fifth next year. I heard somebody. The following in 20, in 20, in 26. I heard somebody talking about it. Man, we ain't giving, they ain't giving up no, Mac Crosby's no first and a third, shit. The hell they ain't. Would you hear, man, you crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:00 For what? Cause let me ask you a question. Tell me the player that you're gonna get because you're going to the playoffs and I believe you're gonna make a deep run. Tell me the player that you're going to get because you're going to the playoffs and I believe you're going to make a deep run. Tell me the player that you can get in the draft. That's going to be 28 or lower. That's better than Max Crosby.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Tell me the player that y'all can get. And here's the thing. He can't help you till 25. Max Crosby can help you in 24. So for me, it's a no brainer for me. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
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Starting point is 00:59:01 And you might go to one of you might want to need extra, some extra ammunition to move up to go get get your fire Make it a fire shield in Look y'all are doing it. You're not good. First of all, you're not going nowhere You're not going anywhere. You know that I know that you're not going So I'm not going to Joe Here's the thing now I can lose the house and then I can sell all the parts in it and then, babe, a maybe move down and get me something next year.
Starting point is 00:59:34 But I didn't feel like take everything. So what I keep Max Crosby, he's already made it abundantly clear. I don't want to be a part of a rebuild. I'm about winning. You're not going to win. And, and, and, and, and they know that they know that. I don't want to be a part of a rebuild. I'm about winning. Not gonna win in Vegas. They know that. They know that.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Not. Yes. Yeah, listen, the lions to the raiders. Dan Campbell need to send my homie Antonio Pierce a message and just text him, help me help you. That's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Nothing else. Help me help you. That's it. Yeah. Nothing else. Help me help you. And I get him out of the AFC. Go to the AFC. Go to the AFC. You ain't got to worry about you. Cause I ain't gonna face you anytime soon. Cause it's gonna be a wave before we get to a Super Bowl. So I ain't worried about it. Let it wreck shop over there. But I would, I'm definitely, I'm definitely trying to.
Starting point is 01:00:29 That's what I'm trying to do. Oh, Joe. All right, oh, Joe. We'll be right back after this quick. President Trump, why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent? I don't know. I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black, and then I read that she was black. Vice President Harrison.
Starting point is 01:00:50 We have someone who wants to be president who has consistently attempted to use race to divide. And I think the American people want better than that, want better than this. We all have dreams and want a president who invest in those not in hate and division oh what you looking at what's on your mind what you thinking hey i'm you know what i would think about like um what you think about i'm thinking about you know the presidency i'm thinking about, you know, the presidency. I'm thinking about the two people who are running that we have that we have to choose from. And I always thought, obviously, I'm really not into politics as heavy as I'd like. You know, I have I have family members that are, you know, Don Lemon, you know, we're related.
Starting point is 01:01:44 He's into politics really good. Mark Lamont, Anthony Hill, he's another another another cousin of mine. He's into politics like I just but I would love to represent the people. You know that? And it's probably I'm not the right person to do so, but I would just love to be in that position of power, you know, to, you know, to be the president. Like, could you imagine what I could do? No. You know, if I was in the highest seat,
Starting point is 01:02:14 can you imagine the changes I would make? You know, when we talk about someone representing and being for the people, like that's me. Like I live by that. Like I really live it. I don't talk it like, you know, part of being part of politics is talking and selling a dream, getting people to actually vote for you. But what the people need is somebody like me that actually, you know, talk to
Starting point is 01:02:37 talk and actually walks it. I'm really like that. Like I could just imagine my, my, I just, when it's time for me to give a speech, you know, and I and I start my speeches with, you know, for the American people. I just want to know. I fucking love you. And then I will get into whatever the topics are at hand, like I just I would just be perfect for that, you know, I'm just I just thought about that just after watching that ad.
Starting point is 01:03:05 And I don't know, man. Damn. You know, who you voting for? Or am I being a little too nosy? I don't mean to be too personal. I'm going to keep that between me and the ballot. I got my ballot here. So I'm about to go upstairs and fill it out.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Make sure it gets back in time. Look, the thing is, Ocho, you got a lot of being politics. Oh yeah, oh yeah. And you say you're gonna be for the people, but the thing is that you need those big donors. Oh, I got donors, man. That's gonna fund the campus. But the thing is that you need those big donors. I got donors that that's that's going to fund the camp.
Starting point is 01:03:46 So what you think they want to return? What you think they want to return? I got I got I got I got one one hand, but the other man, you know, I understand the political game very well now, but this is the problem. The people don't understand it. I don't think the people understand it. Now, I'm not now we're not going to make this a political goddamn debate cause this is nightcap.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Not a, not, not Fox news or CNN, but you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let that be. We'll say that for another date and another. Yeah. Yeah. I can get into, I can get into a good thing. I'm gonna do that. The Packers beat the Texans 24 22. The Packers went on a 45 yard field goal.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Brandon McManus, who just arrived recently. This was the Packers first win over a team with a winning record. The Packers first four wins came against teams that have a combined 17, seven and 15 record. Their two losses came against teams that combined eight and two record. The Texans only previous loss came against the Vikings who beat the Packers in week four. CJ Stroud had his worst game of his career throwing only for 86 yards with no touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Josh Jacobs scored his first career receiving touchdown in week seven after having 211 receptions, over 1,500 yards to start his career without one. Only Thomas Jones had more career receptions before getting his first career receiving touchdown in NFL history. Stefan Diggs spoke after the game on his beef with Jahir Alexander. I'm never the bigger person.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I'm not letting it go. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I, that's, that's what we need. That's what we need. We need what the hell. That was that was a net. I got nuts in the goddamn room, man.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Anyway, we need that. We need I like that. So next time the Packers and the Texans meet, we need more quarrels. We need more and more players going at it. No, it makes the game that much more exciting. You know, there was no fight, you know, just the chirpy this and the talking shit back and forth, you know, it makes the game that much more exciting. You know, there was no fight, you know, just the, the trippiness and the talking shit back and forth, you know, and in the Packers one, the Packers one, I just think to me, maybe other people might, might not like it.
Starting point is 01:05:55 I like it. It's exciting. The Mike Evans, the Marshawn Latimore type stuff, you know, the, the old L Thurman, the Josh Norman, no type stuff like, Oh, I'm told Odell Thurman, Odell Beckham and the Josh Norman no type stuff like oh, I'm told L Thurman Oh Dale Beckham and the Josh Josh Norman type like that that makes to me as a player It makes me want to watch the game and see how they do, you know on the on the night on I ain't studying that old man. If you got that kind of energy before the game
Starting point is 01:06:19 I want a good type of energy going on I ain't got no time to be tussling and going back and forth all that You gonna do it again. I ain't got no time to be tussling and going back and forth all that Yeah, just talking, you know, it just so happened the Packers came out on the winning in this time this time Packers Jordan love was 24 23 to 23 touchdowns 20 sessions. He's turning the ball over the Joe that's He had to this week didn't he have three last week? Think he had three last week or something. In his heart, Romeo Dobbs, eight with 94 on 10 targets.
Starting point is 01:06:54 They got a great group of young receivers. Josh Jacob, they ran the ball 20 times for 82 yards, but it looked like they only had like 55 total plays. You think that nobody really had nobody. I mean, this is a game. CJ strive was 10 or 21 for 86 yards. They miss the Nico Collins. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Oh yeah. Yeah. They don't show. They had one for 28 step on this guy. Five for 23. Uh, see, they ain't got nobody to stress the field like Nico though. They ain't got nobody to stress the field. And I listen, the package did a hell of a job defensively.
Starting point is 01:07:32 They did a hell of a job defensively even be able to hold CDH route to just 86 yards and four quarters worth of football. You know, it's commendable. It's commendable, but again, they don't have anybody that's stressed. Last week, or was that two weeks ago? Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I've seen a game or Joe with this few plays with both teams. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:55 It just seems like both. I mean, 10 or 21 and 33 Russian teams. That's 54 total play that counted. So let's just say on the high end, they had 55, 56. The other team had 53 total plays. So you talk about 110 total plays between the two teams. That's crazy. Yeah, last week.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, the Packers five and two But they trying to keep pace in that division because everybody's really good in that division Oh Joe, obviously is being led by the Lions who have lost one game now the Minnesota they have one loss the Packers have two losses the the Bears which were on a bye week They have two losses. So this I I mean, you, you got to win in this division. You could ill afford to fall behind.
Starting point is 01:08:48 And especially, you know, they the Packers have already lost a division game to Minnesota. So you don't want them to have too big. Obviously, the one loss record is one thing, but ahead to head, that's something entirely different. So congratulations to the Packers as they win on the last second field goal 24-22 over the Houston Texans.
Starting point is 01:09:10 The Bengals beat the Browns, 21-14. Fans booed Deshaun Watson after he goes down what appears to be an Achilles injury. Namus? You can see it through the song and the replay. It just, we got to go with the peers to be a serious Achilles injury. Immigration, reproductive rights, why former first lady Michelle Obama will never run for president, affordable housing, exactly the type of discussions you'd expect on a sports podcast. Am I right?
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Starting point is 01:13:31 I know I'll go down to history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese
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Starting point is 01:14:15 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. The Bengals win 21-14. Jameis, a healthy scratch, comes in as an emergency quarterback because Dorian Thompson, he gets Nick. Jameis was the emergency quarterback. He had to come in. He was five of 11 for 67 yards. Dorian Thompson was 11 of 24 for 82 yards and Deshaun was having a pretty good game. He was 15 or 17 for 128 yards, but he can't seem to catch the break, Coach O.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Yeah, that's tough. He can't seem to catch the break. That's tough. That's tough for him. Obviously, I mean, depending on who you are and how you've how you feel about Deshaun Watson, the football player, the football player, you want to see him do well. You want to see him do well outside of that. Obviously, you know, the rumblings and the the the the bullying of him being injured. Yeah, I can't get down with that. You probably can't get down with that. You probably can't get down with that.
Starting point is 01:15:26 But you have to understand. No, we all we all treat things differently. You can't it's hard to tell people how to react based on things that have happened in the past that have occurred. So it's like it's tough. It's tough. You know, some people aren't going to aren't going to forget that. Not forget it. I get all that.
Starting point is 01:15:48 But somebody gets hurt and you'll call that. I don't believe in I don't believe them. I love they have the right. They paid their heart and money because in the introduction, when he came out, they had Nick Chubb last, they booed him. They cheered Nick Chubb. I got no problem with that. You have the right. But when somebody gets injured, for you to applaud that. Hey, but you know how people are, huh? Like when you listen, they don't,
Starting point is 01:16:15 man, listen, if they ain't fucking with you, excuse my language, it don't matter what it is, heard, you pass away. They don't care. You're playing bad, they give two zero zero, you know what, they don't care. They don't care. You know how fans are. Oh, man, shit. What?
Starting point is 01:16:37 I mean, I can, I can, might dislike something or someone, but I'm not gonna applaud mishap. I'm not gonna have plod unfortunate Somebody getting injured or you know somebody that you know people like that. Oh, I'm happy, huh? You happy that no, I don't like that. No matter what I think of somebody I don't I don't with you never that I Don't and I don't wish injury on someone because it's Just like I said you paid your money
Starting point is 01:17:10 You want to boot a man boot a man? But I I just there's never gonna be a situation. Oh Joe where somebody gets injured I just but again, you know when it comes to fans and you know how fans are, they're very fickle, very, very fickle. Things haven't been going well in Cleveland, you know, for them based on the quarterback play throughout the season this year, they probably wanted a change at the quarterback position
Starting point is 01:17:40 and just everything coming full circle and him going down. And I think with the frustration from the fans, and that's what we got today. Obviously the stuff that happened off the field didn't make it any better. Joe Burrow was 15 to 25, 181, two touchdowns. He got sacked three times. I mean, they didn't do anything spectacular.
Starting point is 01:18:06 I mean, they had 20, think about it, they had 25 rushes for 59 yards. It was the turnovers that they got a 100 yard kickoff return and they got a short fee, you know, Thompson turned the ball over twice. But it wasn't like they did anything spectacular. T Higgins had four for 82, Chase had five for 55. They both got a touchdown, but that was it. I mean, if you look at it, 25, 25.
Starting point is 01:18:31 So again, another 50 plus plays, which is crazy. 50 plays. But it's not how many plays it's making the plays that you have count. But it's not how many plays it's making the plays that you have count and when they got opportunities Chase made a guy miss called a quick pass made a guy miss hit the same using hands on Chase read a great route Joe threw a great ball touchdown and You know, like I said, they got the hundred yard kick return to start Yeah, oh that first that first play on the inside, that was, that was a slam route,
Starting point is 01:19:06 double, double slants. That was T and then was chased that court to fade on Greg Newsom. You say, you, oh, you saw, uh, he hit the Tyrone Lou and stepped over. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, this is the Brown, the Brown got a really good defense, man. I loved, I love, I love me some Denzel Ward. Why? I love that boy.
Starting point is 01:19:28 That boy, he nice. He's great. You can't know. But yeah, but the office, though, is bad. And so who's James Winston going to be the starter from now on? He might be on Dorian's. Well, Dorian, Dorian, Tom, remember, James, he came in today. He wasn't even dressed.
Starting point is 01:19:50 He was the third quarterback. Yeah. So, you know, third quarterback one dress. No, they dressed him. Nah, let's bet bet five dollars. Yeah. Yeah. The Sean winning.
Starting point is 01:20:02 I mean, uh, Thompson went in after the shot, but I'm saying they went in the game with two quarterbacks. Jamis Winston was dressed today. Yeah. But I'm saying there's a reason why he wasn't, he wasn't dressed. Oh Joe, because you put him up, you put a third quarterback up. That means you got to take off. So in a less jamers plan of running down to a point to kick off a kick kick return. Yep. We can't we can't have a new dress.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Who's he is going to be the starter or Dorian Thompson will be the starter. He Thompson got Nick. We don't know the significance of the injury. So once we find out, he might, he could be the starter because Thompson injury is so bad, he might, he could be to start him because Thompson injury is so bad. He might not be able to play. Then you have, wait, hold on. I just thought about that. I'm tripping. What? So Dorian Thompson was the second string quarterback. Yes. Yes. What the hell? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Okay. Okay. Okay. So there's a possibility if Thompson is Nick really good, really good or bad, however you want to look at it, he might not be able to play next week. And then you, I mean, you won't have any choice but to put Jamus, because we know Deshawn's not playing.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Damn, that's unfortunate, man. It is, it is. And what's Cleveland, what you think and what could have been. Dang. It's over. It's over, Ocho. Hey, you, oh my goodness, man.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Just like through the, nevermind. I don't wanna talk about that. Cause that's, that's, that's shit. That's nasty, bro. Seeing that thing pop, you know, when they do it in slow motion, and you can see the vibration through the sock, the little ripple.
Starting point is 01:22:08 I knew exactly what it was. Damn. The Eagles beat the Eagles beat the Giants in the Saquon Barkley revenge game. In the season's easiest to see coming revenge game, Giants former running back Saquon Barkley rolled in the MetLife Stadium and Eagles Green rushed for 176 yards on 17 carries and a dominant 28-3 victory. His day featured individual runs of 55, 41, and 38 yards. His 176th ranked second in the NFL history for a player against his former team. Cincinnati Bengals Cedric Benson had 189 against the Bears back in 2009. Barkley's 187 yards from scrimmage alone, while the Giants combined 419 yards total.
Starting point is 01:22:57 What I don't get, Ocho, the Giants also pulled Daniel Jones in the loss. We made a change in the fourth quarter when it was 28-3. We had 100 yards just to create a spark, Dave. I'll say Daniel will be the loss. We made a change in the fourth quarter when it was 28-3. We had 100 yards. Just to create a spark, Dave also say, Daniel will be the quarterback going forward. Said Jones with the moves. I was frustrated. Didn't like it, obviously.
Starting point is 01:23:13 What I don't get, Jazz fans, why y'all booing Saquon? Now y'all heard the general manager. Y'all heard John Mara. They didn't want him. Y'all booed that man. He wanted to stay he damn near begged you to stay boo boo boo your general manager boo John Mara that's how y'all should be mad at they chose Daniel Jones y'all was happy and y'all heard it. Yeah. Oh, we gonna let you shop your talents.
Starting point is 01:23:49 You can't tell your girl, I will let you go. Hey, go on out there and see what's out there for yourself. She finds somebody and then you get mad. Why you get mad? You let you or you let it happen. You could have said, no, baby, I got you. I'm going to hold you down. Me and you, we locked up. We in this thing.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Quack, quack. I won't let you out. Y'all mad at Saquon? The man damn near begged to stay. You could tell the man wanted to be a stale giant. Yeah. I mean, listen, I would hope the fans know that. I would hope the fans understand the landscape
Starting point is 01:24:28 of the business when it comes to the running back position in the NFL in general, how they don't value the position, which is why they picked Daniel Jones over Saquon Barkley. You know, even with the great addition in having Malik Nabors, who was awesome, you know. I mean, listen, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I wouldn't let that type of talent walk out the door.
Starting point is 01:24:50 I just wouldn't, especially when the quarterback play is inconsistent. If the quarterback play is inconsistent, who's the one person that could take the pressure off the goddamn quarterback? You know what, all I gotta do? Hand the ball off to him and let him do what he do. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:04 But you let that walk right out the goddamn door. And then he come back and he haunts you today. And he dropped 176 on y'all dome and y'all booing him. Y'all saw hard knocks. Y'all saw the hard knocks. And then John Murray will say, I sure hope he doesn't come back. John Murray was the one person that had the ability
Starting point is 01:25:24 to overrule the general manager And he didn't do it see what he wanted to do He wanted to make it seem like he was so disappointed because he didn't want the fans to be on him You are the owner there is not a move that can be made without your blessing So you let it happen Giants fans you got exactly what you deserve. Y'all wanted Danny Crimes. So you got it.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Now look at it. Now look at you. The man had a nice little stretch parlay that into a hundred plus million dollar contract. We got that bag boy. Got that busy. Hey, y'all pay day day. You're jones 40 million. If you gave him 30, you'd had plenty enough money to get sick on here.
Starting point is 01:26:23 And you didn't have to do anything because you could have made him play to the fifth year, but y'all exited him early. You make sake while I play here's all the way out. You put him on. As a matter of fact, you put him on the franchise. So that's it. So I don't feel bad for you. I don't.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I mean, y'all got something to cheer for. The Yankees going to the World Series. Yeah. When the first game. It's gonna be, I mean, they gonna come quick. Cause the last thing you want to be doing is overlapping the NFL. The first game is Friday.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Hey, is they playing? Wait, so they got to travel LA back. The Dodgers got the best record on the Yankees. They start in LA or they start in New York? Oh, yeah, they started. I don't know, man. Oh, this is the Fox. This is the Fox green, the Yankees. So you got New York and you got LA and then you got everything in between.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Who you got winning? I mean, I liked the Yankees, but I like, I like Shohei. I like Mookie, but I like Aaron Judge too though, man. And boy be hitting, boy. Aaron Judge, Juan Soto, what's my buddy name from the Marlins? Who be hitting home runs too. He be hitting them like crazy. Oh, Giancarlo Staddy. Giancarlo, yeah. He may be smacking them things, boy.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Rizzo, they got a nice look. They got a nice look. It's gonna be, I mean, if this thing, I can just imagine, if this thing goes seven games. Right. Whew. The Volume. Stick to sports, shut up and dribble.
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