Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Ryan Garcia upsets Devin Haney, Lakers lose Game 1 to Nuggets

Episode Date: April 21, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Ryan Garcia shocking the boxing world with his upset over Devin Haney, LeBron James and the Los Angeles Lakers falling to Nikola Jokic and the defending champion Denver Nuggets in Game 1, Anthony Edwards showing up his idol Kevin Durant as the Minnesota Timberwolves blew out the Phoenix Suns, the New York Knicks taking a 1-0 lead over Joel Embiid and the Philadelphia 76ers, and more! 3:00 - Introduction 5:45 - Ryan Garcia beats Devin Haney 25:30 - What’s next for Garcia? 34:30 - Nuggets beat the Lakers 47:30 - Knicks beat the Sixers 54:15 - Wolves beat the Suns 55:30 - Who could be the next “Face of the League” in the NBA? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)  #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, Joe, let's get right into it. Ryan Garcia pulls off a huge upset over WBC super lightweight champion Devin Haney. Knocked him down three times when Haney had never touched the canvas and won the victory by a majority decision. Garcia was ineligible to win the title for missing weight.

He was three pounds over the 140 limit, which is a light hip, which is a lightweight and garcia really should have ended the fight in the first round oh joe yeah if garcia took this thing serious because you can tell he doesn't take it serious he came in overweight he drank at the weigh-in if he were to take it serious i think he he has the tools to be really, I'm talking about special. He's good. I think he already is special, but there's something about Garcia that you can't teach, and that's speed.

That's quickness. There's something that he has in his hands that he relates to power because he's so quick. Obviously, catching Haney a few times and knocking him down. And we know what I think Ryan Garcia did. I think he fooled everybody. I think what he did, all the antics, all the what I identify as. And, you know, the protesting and the speaking out and what was going on instead of actually poking for justice, not only sell the fight, but get people thinking that he wasn't taking the fight serious. Because the first thing you said, he wasn't

overweight. He couldn't win the title. What you mean? People think he wasn't taking it serious. Once you saw him step his ass on the scale, you knew he didn't take it serious. Not making weight is he was happy to be fighting at his natural weight as opposed to

dehydrating and being weaker going into the fight yes sir what would the what let me ask you a question and like and lightweight right they didn't agree to they didn't agree to fight at a catch weight. They agreed to fight at the light weight. The limit is 140. 143, yeah. Okay, he came in three pounds overweight. So how are we supposed to say he took the fight serious? He's drinking beer at the weigh-in hotel.

I'm not saying, I don't know how to put it. I don't know how to put it. But what I witnessed tonight was, I think, someone that was fooling us with all the antics he was doing. Now, coming in overweight, that you can say, you know what, you're not taking this fight serious because you came in three pounds overweight and now you don't have a shot at winning a belt or the title. But then when you see him get in the ring and perform the way he performed tonight, that's taking it serious. Because I'm not trying to be funny, it serious because i i'm not trying to be funny i'm not trying to be funny people in the chat might agree with me some of them might not they are familiar with each other because they fought in the amateurs

so they know each other very well obviously throughout the years everyone has has developed skill have gotten much better at their craft as far as the beauty as far as the sweet science is concerned but tonight it felt like i'm not saying devin haney was this this unbelievable boxer that's out this world he was undefeated he was good at what he did but when i saw him when i saw him go down that first time it didn't look right but it didn't look right it just it just it just didn't feel right i'm not saying he's mike t, but when Buster Douglas knocked Mike Tyson down, you know what I'm trying to say.

Just the feeling. It didn't look right because I've never seen it before. When Antonio Tarver knocked Roy Jones down or knocked him out, it just didn't look right because we're not used to

seeing those individuals in those type of circumstances, if that makes sense. Oh, Joe, but you don't you look at Devin Haney like an elite level. I don't see him like that, but he's undefeated. He's undefeated.

Look at the people he's fought. That's why I was scared to say this. I'm not saying he's Mayweather. I'm not saying he's Mike Tyson or he's Roy Jones, but he's undefeated. He has a resume and he has, you know, the accolades and credentials. So I'm disrespecting him for what he's done to this point in his career. That's all.

That's all I'm saying. So it just looked weird seeing him go down. You can respect the fighter for his resume and still say there's questions. I still have questions. You had no questions about Roy Jones. You had no questions about Mike Tyson. You had no questions about Shane Mosley before he lost to Vernon Forrest. You had no questions about these guys that had unblemished records.

Right. So when I look at Devin Haney, I see a guy with a suspect chin. He doesn't have power. So now, because you see Garcia, that fight should have been over. If that's anybody else, that fight's over. But also, you got to be careful.

I think Garcia didn't want to punch himself out. You don't want to punch yourself out in the first round. But he already did punch himself. You know why? Because he's not... How do you punch this? Probably 143. That's what heavyweights do. They measure their punches.

A lot of... Oh, yeah. If that had been Pacquiao, he'd have been out of there. If that had been Mayweather, he'd have been out of there. It's a volume puncher. Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia

aren't volume punchers. They're not used to throwing that many punches around. So you do have to gauge yourself a little bit based on how you're, on what your true fighting style is. If that makes sense. Remember Paul Williams?

Remember Paul Williams? Guess what? Man, Paul Williams. Yeah, Paul Williams. Paul Williams is a volume puncher. Paul Williams throwing a hundred-something punches around. Man, there's only a few, there's around. Man, there's only a few fighters

that could do that. Yeah, tall, 6'4", yeah. You got to condition yourself to do it, yeah. Your conditioning must be... Right. Now, as you go up in weight, guys don't really throw punches like that

because it takes a lot more oxygen to be able to put those that's why heavyweights throw 20 punches around and stuff and most of their punches are measured but the lower guys because you know they they throw in 115 they throw you know they throw in 70 80 100 punches in a round because their condition and it doesn't right it doesn't take as much much oxygen to fuel their body but if ryan garcia yeah oh you had a chance to win it coming in with the right weight you could have left with the bell yeah yes and you had to give up a 1.5 million because you had to pay 500,000 for every

you're overweight so that cuts into your purse all i'm saying is that if you're going to take the craft serious take take it serious. You want to say you want to be a champion. You want to be thought of as the great Mexican fighters. De La Hoya is the golden boy for a reason. He won gold in Barcelona in the 92 Olympics. He's from East Los Angeles. When you think of Mexican fighters, you think of tough, you think of condition.

That's not Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is not conditioned. When you think of Mexican fighters, you think of tough, you think of condition. Yeah. That's not Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is not conditioned. Yeah. You got to take this crap serious. Or if you can't make it to 140, take it off to 147. But they got the real thumpers up there. We don't want to do that.

They got the real thumpers up there. Yeah. I mean, 147. I mean, it would be very dangerous. Very, very dangerous for Ryan but obviously at 140 would he display the night man with that jab with that left

hook that magical oh man that's his punt what's your favorite route Ocho if I know Ocho's favorite route is a shake or a stutter go you know his punches favorite route, Ocho. If I know Ocho's favorite route is a shake or a stutter goal, I'm going to go out again, man. You know

his punch is one. And you get caught with it every time. You can't teach speed. That's like, wait, hold on. You know what? That's like Tyreek Hill is playing, right? And you know he about to go deep as a DB. You already know he going deep.

And every time they hike the ball,, what to do? Hit Tyreek deep and you knew it was coming. Some things you just can't stop. Randy Moss, he line up. The DB 10 yards off. The DB coach tell the DB, you know what? Go ahead and go back a little bit. You know he going deep. Randy

come off the ball, slow as hell. He throw his hand up at five yards. You still got a five yard cushion. They let the ball go. Randy still, slow as hell. He throw his hand up at five yards. You still got a five-yard cushion. They let the ball go. Randy still, Randy still score. Even if you know it's coming, he's still catching you with it. That means that left hand and that left hook is magical. It's special.

And there's something in boxing. There's something in every sport you can't teach. You can't teach speed and you can't teach quickness. You can't. That's God given. Okay. I might. Okay.

Let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho. It's 30 seconds in the clock. We up by six. And Randy Moss. Are you getting beat deep? Right. No, nothing cheap. Nothing deep.

We understand early. But you know that in boxing, it's a little different than getting beat deep right no nothing cheap nothing deep we understand early but you know that in boxing it's a little different than getting beat deep because you know he's the one he's done deontay wilder why can't deontay wilder win fights anymore because everybody knows he's trying to load up for that one punch the right hand once they neutralize the right hand he's fighting one hand behind his back because he's really not doing anything else. He's not shooting the jab to sit up to the right hand. He's just looking. He's just circling. Look at the right.

One big punch. He's not Lennox Lewis. He's not Vladimir Kilichko. He's not one of these Ernie Shavers guys. Larry Holmes, who used the jab. Boom. Boom. They ain't letting the rain stop.

They're using it to boom to do this. Yes. So that's all I'm saying listen give Ryan give Ryan Garcia credit but bro you overweight you overweight you overweight now I understand when you fall

take out of this contract bring your ass in the weight and you not and you not gonna rehydrate up to 150. But Ryan won the fight. But what are we supposed to do? Are we supposed to say, oh, Ryan won the fight? Yeah, he won the fight. He came in overweight.

I still don't believe he took it serious because his conditioning, a guy that size shouldn't have to fight in spurts. They both 25. How is Ryan Garcia? In his early 20s? serious because his conditioning, a guy that size shouldn't have to fight his first. They both 25. In his early 20s? Yeah. I think being cautious,

understanding what happened last time when he fought. Listen, listen, look what happened when he fought Tank. Going in there, rushing in there, being aggressive, and he was susceptible to the counter. And he got countered and couldn't get back up. So I think your process might

a little different. I'm going to take it a little cautious. I'm going to pick and choose when to take my shots. Yeah. Like Duran, when Duran beat Sugar Ray, we was in shock. We were in shock. I remember that fight. We were in shock.

When guys like like when we look at when we look at fighters like Tyson like like all like some of the guys that have lost obviously Mayweather never lost but when we look at Roy Jones when Antonio Tarver called him and we look at when Vernon Forrest not beat

not beat Shane once beat him twice we like god dang I'm not not beat Shane once, beat him twice. We like, God dang! I'm not surprised. Are you surprised? I'm going to be honest with you. I thought, I really thought Haney was going to win the

fight. I really thought, I'm not going to say a lot to you. I thought, forget the weight. I wasn't even worried about Ryan missing weight. I was thinking about all the antics he was pulling leading up to the fight. Like, are you in camp? Are you retraining? All the stuff on camera.

Yeah, I thought he was just trying to sell the fight. What? Yeah. I thought he was just trying to sell the fight. I thought it was going to be a close fight. And then let me tell you what swung me to Haney is that when he showed up overweight. I was like, man, he ain't taking it serious.

That's what swung me towards really like, I was like, man, this thing can go 50-50. I'm like, nah, it wasn't like when he fought Tank. I'm like, hey, if I'm betting on this fight, I'm putting all my money on Tank. But in Devin Haney, I'm looking at him like... I just saw Haney, to me, as a better, purer boxer.

Obviously, he's sharp. Even though a lot of people say he doesn't have power, he's sharp. He counters very well. His ring IQ is solid. It's nice. I'm not going to call him a one-trick pony, but Ryan Garcia just has, obviously obviously the quickness and the speed and and and that got then that guy he got great he got great hand speed that goddamn hook is here and he set it up so he but he caught him with the jab

and blinded him and came right back with it and he didn't even see it coming what it but if you look at the first. What it... But if you look at the first time, what did he do? If you remember the fight with Masvidal and Usman, Usman knocked his hand, he had his hand, Usman, boom. Ryan Garcia did the same thing. Tap over the top of it. What he should

have done, because you remember that Ryan Garcia started turning his back and ducking. Now you got to step around. Stop hitting me in the back. That was weird. And come with your hook. Ryan Garcia trying to do the Philly Shell.

It ain't look right. It don't look right. He's not doing it the right way. No, no, no, no, no. You got... No, no, no, no, no, no. No, yeah.

Ain't a whole lot of fighters can do that. Sweet Pete Whitaker was the first guy I ever saw do it. He was nice with it. Listen, Sweet Pete Whitaker did the Philly Shell

to perfection. Obviously, Mayweather did the Philly Shell to perfection. Obviously, Mayweather does the Philly Shell to perfection. And Jerron Ennis, when he wants to go on the Shell and fight off of that defensively or offensively. I mean, three. I mean, others can do it. I mean, accepts you well and understanding you're doing it for a specific reason. Ryan was just doing it just to do it and really not throwing back. Right. No, no, no.

The difference between the guys that you mentioned, they didn't have the offensive arsenal that Floyd has. Floyd can be a defensive fighter and at the same time pull, bam. Everything you throw, he can count over the top. His reflexes,

his eyes, his ability to see punches. Anticipate what's coming every time. It's second to none. Oh, oh, oh. You throw the hook? Well, you're going to miss me with your hook, and I'm going to catch you with mine. Oh, you're going to throw the right? Yeah.

I'm going to pull, and I'm going to boom. I'm going to catch you with mine. His ability to see the punches are unbelievable. But Ryan Garcia pulls off the huge upset. He had, he made weight. He's been a new WBC super lightweight champion. He beat Devin Haney.

I want to hear the scorecards because you know, normally they read you the scorecards on a majority of the decision. That means somebody, somebody that's impossible. That's, that's impossible. I mean, you have to, you have to be a blind man to say anything.

How do you get a majority? Because Devin Haney had to get knocked down three times. Hold on. It's only three judges. For you to have a majority decision and not a unanimous decision, that means somebody. Or it was a draw. You know what's funny? Don't you still want to know the score?

Don't you want to know the score? Looking at the ref, I was a little perplexed. Looking at the ref, it looked like the ref was trying to help Haney out a little bit. Now, I might be wrong. I might be tripping, but there were three knockdowns.

To me, it might have been four or five. I don't know what the ref was doing. I don't know what he was looking at. His leg. I mean, hey, hey, hey. Look, when he clipped H mean, hey, hey, look, when he clip hating, first of all,

it takes a special type of person to get clip and still come forward. And he came from because he caught him good. You see, his eyes went back and forth. Take a minute to get yourself

together too. So you got to, you got to hold on. Yeah. But here's the thing to Ocho. He felt that power. Yeah. He never felt the thing to Ocho. He felt that power. Yeah. He never felt power like that before.

So now all of a sudden, I got to tread very cautiously. Punches. Now it's preventing me from throwing my punches because he might catch me slipping. Yeah. But see, the problem that he had is that he kept slipping

and dodging the same thing. And at some point in time, they're going to time you up. You remember Marco Antonio Barrera? No, that was who he fought. Pacquiao. And Pacquiao kept ducking low? When he fought Pacquiao. Pacquiao, if you notice, every time Pacquiao, he liked to do stop, stop, stop.

Same rhythm. He catch the rhythm. He catch the rhythm of your movement. And he stop, stop. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Another guy, Shane Mosley. Shane Mosley does his hands like this before he throws a punch. If you watch

him, he always does this. Timing. Let me look here. And so, like, to a natural person, unless you like, you be around fighters and you be around trainers and they talk you through right what he's doing and what why he's doing it now you have the little nuances that the average person no can't see that high high ring iq fighters can see dude that is nothing but a chess match.

I'm sure casual fans think, oh, they just in their thorn punch. They done pulled their hand back. By the time you see it on your hand, it's different. It's a different ballgame in there. People think, oh, they just in their thorn punches. Everything is calculated. Everything is calculated.

Everything. Everything. Oh, yeah. Now, sometimes they gather information. They want to see what you want to do. Everything. Everything. Oh, yeah. Now, sometimes they gather information. They want to see what you want to do. Floyd make with me. Yeah.

Floyd says he doesn't watch his opponent. He trusts his trainers to watch the fighters and give him info, give him feedback. He said he don't watch the fight. So now,

but give Ryan Garcia credit, but I wish he took it serious. I wish he take it serious. Get the belt because look, you need belts. Because I mean, what are you fighting for? You want a legacy. You can't have no legacy without no belts. I don't give a damn. Oh, he

don't want no belts. Bullseye. Why are you getting this? If you do this, if you're you do this if you're a boxer if you're an mma it's all about the titles yes you want to win but the titles give you more money that's what that's you gotta you get more money when you have a title or when you have titles you think floyd mayweather would be thought of if floyd didn't have no belts we would look at money when you have a title or when you have titles. You think Floyd Mayweather would be thought of if Floyd didn't have no belts? We would look at Floyd the same way.

We would look at Sugar Ray. We would look at Duran. We would look at Roy Jones. We'd look at any of the greats if they ain't got no belts. I mean, the belt's obviously what commands the money. Come on, man. It's what commands the money. Yes!

They got to fight. And now, you got to fight on their terms. Now, you fight on, man. It's what commands the money. But, I mean, they got to fight. And now you got to fight on their turn. Now you fight on my turn. Mayweather said, no, I ain't going nowhere. If you want to fight me, you come into Vegas. I ain't getting on no plane. Think about it. If I'm not mistaken, I think once he fought Arturo Gatti in Atlanta.

Vegas after that. I don't think he left. I don't think he left Vegas after that. Roy Jones. I don't think he left Vegas after that. Roy Jones. I remember Roy Jones. I was talking to Roy and Roy had like six or seven belts. And I think somebody with a cow zaggy had one belt. Somebody had like one belt,

but he wanted him to take his six or seven belt and come overseas to fight him for the one belt. What the hell? No. So y'all get me over there and peer whip me? Oh, absolutely. I mean, obviously they have a rematch coming, right? Absolutely not.

I mean, do you really want to see a rematch, Ocho? We got to give him a rematch. Ocho, sometimes. I know Ryan Garcia. Ocho, sometimes somebody whip you. He's going to say, no, I don't want to fight Devin Haney. I want a rematch with tank

oh that's right thank you that 135 he don't want to go down to 135 but i don't believe he can be tank at one point who's next for who's next for uh garcia to fight then shakur oh uh what i don't think he don't want none of that now that's a different ball game yeah he does not want to fight shakur that's a different ball game but because here's the oh But because here's the thing. And when we talk, remember we talked about this the other night with Mayweather,

Mayweather really never had to lose, but like walking around weight. Right. Yeah. He's like 152 walk around. So he go down to 151 47. He's great. Right.

He fight that 154. He fight at 154. He's at 152. So he's having to eat a lot of calories just to get to the 54. What middle junior middleweight. So, but when you want big guys and you got to come all the way down, you walk it around at one 65 and got to come down to one to 140 yeah you're gonna be drained and if they put a clause in there that won't let you uh uh overrepeat yeah you're gonna be depleted

that was good tonight man it was just weird seeing haney go down man it was weird seeing and i hate the comparison i know people gonna make fun of me saying why are you comparing them to mike tyson and why are you comparing them to Mike Tyson? And why are you comparing them to Roy? I'm just saying the moment, the moment of just seeing him go down after never seeing him to go down like that and actually get hit like that. I've never seen him take that kind of punishment.

It just looked weird. Right. Yeah. Hold on. 112. Okay. 112. One judge had to on 112 okay 112 one judge had to draw

112 112 yeah cause that's how you get that's the only way you can get a majority decision or else it would've been

UD it'd have been a unanimous decision so because it was a unanimous I knew somebody either had to draw or had

you see you see how he win that's the only way you can get a majority decision now I see why the ref was doing what he was doing I'm gonna help you out I'm gonna help you out as much as possible had him to draw or had you see Adam Judge that's the only way you can get a majority decision. Now I see why the ref was doing what he was doing. I'm going to help you out as much as possible. There was only so much he could do though.

Oh yeah. Yeah. One judge had to fight 112-112. But Ryan Garfield beats Devin Haney. He does not get the belt because he didn't make weight. He ends up having to give Devin Haney. He does not get the belt because he didn't make weight. He ends up having to give Devin Haney $1.5 million because he bet that every pound he was overweight, he'd give him $500,000.

I don't know if that was just gamesmanship or what. He ain't giving up. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out, time out, time out. Speaking of paying money. Right. You owe me $500 now. I don't know what what happened what happened hey listen money out of psych can cause a fight now you you made a bet chat please remind him about his bet you said you said the bull was

gonna beat the heat go get yeah go get my go get your money from Zach Wilson. What happened? Yeah, to what I mean. I don't understand what you mean. Oh, now I'm saying you don't speak English, huh? You don't speak English. You don't speak Ebonics. You don't speak slang. You don't speak hood.

What does Zach Wilson have to do with the bet that we just made last last weekend and you said the bulls gonna be the heat the money that we bet Zach Wilson all over Zach Wilson do it this I don't know Chad to pull it up oh now you were niggering on your best okay okay I get it back. I'll get it back. Even though you didn't pay me my money

for the Jeff. I'm just saying. I'm sure it was $100. We'll find it. Hey, Chad, find it. You sure I bet on Zach Wilson that's my guy I don't recall making any bets during football season

yeah yeah oh and that Kedarious Tony you remember Kedarious Tony wasn't going to have no more drops oh I bet he won't not only did he have a drop next game no we didn't bet on it

I just said to a pick oh yes we battled that oh absolutely oh absolutely oh absolutely cause Derrick's totally from Florida

you see that's how I get you I know you gonna bet all things Florida nah I don't you can't help it nah I don't I gotta go with the whole thing I'm just being honest

yeah Chad y'all better tell him huh You can't help it. Nah, I don't really... I'm just being honest. Yeah. Chad, y'all better tell him. Huh? It was $200 for Tony. How much for Zach Wilson? That was another $200. There you go, $400.

So I owe you $100. Huh. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. How about this, Ocho? Can you put that $100 on a running account? If I don't run up and pay you, don't you run your ass up and ask me for it? Hell no. Hey, that's a good one.

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and it's the Nuggets' fifth straight win over the Lakers. Playoff win over the Lakers. Playoff win over the Lakers. Jokic and Murray combined for 17 assists and no turnovers. Jamal Murray has the highest increase in points per game all time in the regular season and postseason. A plus 7.5,

Jamal Murray, his career average is 17.5. In the postseason, it's 25. Nikola Jokic normally averages 20.9, but he averages 27.5 in the regular season. Yes, sir. Ocho, I'm watching this game. And the game goes to the half, and you can go check my tweet. I knew the Lakers were in trouble because Anthony Davis and LeBron James

is having the game of their lives. They're 14-21 at the half combined shooting. LeBron is three or three from the three point line. Oh, yeah. It was three points. Yeah. So your big guns, your big guns are going up. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Yeah. I mean, and you're up three. They can't play. They can't play any better and i uh gill and i was on we got to make it a three on three you got to make it a d low uh a and austin reeves versus aaron gordon yeah uh michael porter jr and kc. If you go look at the box score tonight, they're three outplayed out three. And that's the only way because LeBron James and AD got to cancel my AD head. I think AD had what?

34, 15 and like six or seven assists. Let me pull up right here. Oh, man. Because AD held his own. I was very, man. Because AD held it on. I was very, very excited watching AD play. He played extremely well. I don't like, look.

I understand the Lakers like, hey, we don't want AD. We need AD. But at some point in time, you can't give Yoke the exact same look all the time and have Rui on it. AD was 32-14-5 with four blocks.

LeBron was 27-8 with one block, one steal, and six rebounds. So 27 points, eight assists, six rebounds. He was really, really careless with the basketball. He had seven of their 12 turnovers. So, Yolk had 32 points, 12 rebounds, 7 assists. And Jamar Murray had 22 points, 10 assists, and 6 rebounds. So, the big two for both teams, they canceled each other out. Let's just say they canceled each other out.

But, Austin Reeves had 13. D-Lo had 13, but he was one for nine. He was shooting bad from three. He was shooting bad. He had 13 points on 20 shots. Rui didn't play bad. Rui just didn't get enough shots.

Rui got to shoot the ball more. He had four shots. Four shot attempts. Rui got to shoot the ball more. He had four shots. Four shot attempts. And you got KCP had 12 points. You got Aaron Gordon had 12 points with 11 rebounds. And you had Michael Porter Jr. I think D'Angelo probably won't have another game like that.

I think as a shooter, you know, you keep on shooting, but obviously you have to know when to stop. You know what I'm saying? If you want for nine from three and it's not falling, then obviously you need to change to the mid- You know what I'm saying? If you want for nine from three and it's not falling, then obviously you need to change to the mid-range game

and start trying to drive to the basket and create fouls and maybe get to the line a little bit and get your points that way and try to find yourself in a rhythm as far as shooting the ball is concerned. And when I think about it, Austin Reeves has to play better as well. And you said Rui. Rui, does Rui have the green light to be able to take the amount of shots you think he should?

That's the whole thing. Certain people are reluctant to just go out there and just shoot just to be shooting. More so shooting when they're actually open. Does he have the green light to do that? He has the ability to shoot more than 4,000 a game. But you know what I mean, though, right? There are certain players that have the green light to shoot at will four times in a game but you know what i mean you know what i mean you know what i mean though right there's certain players that have the green light to shoot

it will probably 20 shots probably no prop 20 shots probably no but a lot of his shots a lot of his shots are coming their guys are feeding him okay i mean uh yeah he gets to mismatch yeah he can post up a jamal murray he gets a kcp or he gets a smaller guy yeah he can post but more times than not it's off a feed uh something like that i don't know if it really plays a factor obviously when you play in denver what when it comes to football outside altitude but even would you would you be in indoors you think altitude played any type of any type of factor for the Lakers at all? But you're indoors.

I'm not sure how that works. No, no, no. It's still 5,280 feet above sea level, so it is still a mile high. I just think the thing is obviously the pressure is the playoffs.

There's a different types of anxiety to it and you know when you pumped up you know your heart beats a little faster you get tired more more rapidly quicker uh so it's uh i just don't know i mean i'm this this is fifth time I've watched him in the playoffs. I'm just not so sure because I think there's a greater chance D'Lo has another game like he had tonight as opposed to Murray having another game like he had. Murray was 9-24. Probably not. What's the likelihood of him going 9-24 again?

Yolk's going to be Yolk. Yolk's going to do what he does. But see, my problem is with ham is that he's giving him a steady diet of the same thing okay rule you got him for about five or six plays okay ad you got him five or six trip down a court lebron if you give any great player a steady diet of anything right it's like a human getting a steady diet of antibiotics. It's going to build up a resistance to it and then all of a sudden it's going to be no good. And you see what happens. He started

getting into his rhythm and now you got your hands full. Now you at his mercy because he's stronger than you think. He doesn't have muscle tone. He's not carved like a Carmelo or Dwight Howard or Ben Wallace. But look when he puts that shoulder in people's chest,

how he dislodges them from that spot. It doesn't matter if it's Roy, if it's a D, if it's LeBron and LeBron, ain't no small man and he's not a weak man, but he moved them like it's nothing. And you know, you're reluctant because he's such a great pass.

He's seven foot tall and he's gonna be able to beam the ball craft cross court define michael porter jr or kcp or one of those shooters spotting up but you gotta roll your dot you gotta roll so who do you trust kcp i think kcp made all his all his threes in the third because he he was he wasn't very good in the first half and then the second they broke the game open. But if you watch this game closely, if you notice something about the Nuggets, when they go on their runs, they don't let you off the hook by turning the ball over like the Lakers did.

See, the Lakers got on a run and all of a sudden they start turning the ball over. And so what was a 10 or 11, 12-point lead that possibly could have got to 16, 17, maybe even 18. Now they turn the ball over like three times in a row and a 12-point lead all of a sudden is down to five. Remember what we talked about in the Super Bowl. Ocho, when you

get the momentum, how much separation can you put? Because like you said, you know NBA teams, they're going to go on a run too. So you just want it to be – because think about it. They were down. They went from down one to up 14. Like that.

That's what the Nuggets did to the Lakers. Just like that. But I don't know. I just don't know. I've seen AD, the first game last year, have a monster game, and they lost. LeBron, the last game when they got swept, he had 40 and they lost LeBron and AD played well together and they lost. The supporting cast has to play better. Because he has to play better.

Also, Reeve has to play better. And Rui and some of the other supporting cast and players come off the bench. You got you got you got somebody got to give them the confidence or the green light. It's OK to shoot the ball. It's OK. You got to pull it. You got to pull it you got to pull it because listen it was seven game series right you're already down one just let it go yes yeah they have 30 home i mean the the series doesn't start until somebody wins on the opposing team's court but the problem is is that he's a good offensive player yeah but he's his foot

right he is because you know they're gonna put you in the pick and roll and you gotta fight hard and you know it's it's just murray i mean murray ain't no easy task but when you in the western conference ain't none of the guards in the West easy task. Because you got Shea. And you got Steph. And you got Dee Fox. And you got Luka. And you got Kyrie. So you ain't got no easy wins.

And you dealing with Harden. Although Harden is not what he once was. He's still crafty. He's still shifty. He still can get it done. So there are no easy. There's no like, man, I got a night off. No, you don't. That's off. No, you don't. No, you don't.

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Joel Embiid threw it up the glass. He slammed it down and he had a little scare. The left knee causing Joel, he missed 29 games with that knee. The Sixers outscored the Knicks by 14 when Embiid was on the court, but they were outscored by 21 when he wasn't. This was another game, but it came down to yeah josh hart all the big shots down the stretch josh hart made him he made every three he got every time he rebounded um you know i was on there they asked me i man, most of the time, a lot of games,

um, Jalen Brunson, he's not an efficient player. Oh, look at this. Hey, Chad, what did Jalen Brunson shoot from the floor?

Eight of 26. Yeah. 22 points. Oh, 26 shots. This is not the Jalen Brunson you're going to get every night. He's very, he's yeah. I'm saying

he's under 50%. Tonight, he's under 50% shooting. For the season, he's under 50%. He's going to give you your points. And if, you know, the Knicks are in the playoffs because of Jalen Brunson in this play. Even though he's under

50%. I'm not saying that he isn't, but two things can be true. Ocho. Two things. So let me get this right. That's like me saying, man, Ocho have 170 yards. He had 20 catches. He should have had 170 yards.

I can't even talk. i can't even say anything negative about jaylen brunson or the other nicks obviously but they are they they are in the playoffs because of him they did a great takes a lot of shots he scores a lot of points he makes a lot of he makes a lot of plays he facilitates the ball very well and i guarantee you he won't have another game like he had today i'm'm not going to say he's not because they have a lint that can bother him. Tobias Harris, 6'8". Kelly Oubre, 6'6", 6'7".

Kyle Lowry is tenacious, although he probably has better against Kyle because Kyle's a little small. So small on small, you like Jalen Brunson in that situation. And then you send him to your help and you got Joel Embiid back there to really make things even more difficult for him.

But Jalen Brunson is going to be an all-NBA player, probably the second team. I don't think he's not going to nudge out Shea or Luka for first team, but I think he's going to be the second team, and rightfully so. I think he averaged, what, 28 points this season? Had one of the last, the third best 10-game stretch since 1980. Had almost 380 points. Only Kobe and Jordan scored more over the last 10 games of a regular season.

So Jalen Brunson is going to be Jalen Brunson. You just try to neutralize him, but here's the thing though, Ocho, is that you got him to shoot eight for 26. That's the game you got to steal. Because like you said, he's probably not going to shoot like that. Playing that way. I'm sure, I'm sure.

Based on who he is, based on how he's played all season long, even though you're saying he's shooting under 50%, he's going to come back. And if he went nine for 26, I'm sure he's going to come back. And if he went nine for 26, I'm sure he's going to clean up. He's going to be shooting a higher percentage in the next game. Yeah.

Yeah. You just got to make him work. If you're making shots over here, if you're making contested shots, I'll stretch. They run. Yeah. What can you do about that, Ocho?

Man, you see Ocho with that oneo man hey you can't man you see ocho with that bro i i can't play no better defense the man one hand caught it bro come on now to do a high pointed ball in the middle of the field with three guys on him bro what you want me to do i can't play no better defense than that but where they lost the game where the sixes lost the game they were out rebounding by 22 you can't get out rebounding like you can't got because you know josh hart's going to crash the board. He's one of those guys. He's going to,

he's a hustle player. He's going to crash the board and he can make timely shots, which he did. But his biggest asset is his hustle, his ability to track down loose balls. And he gave the Knicks a couple of extra possessions that they ended up scoring. But who would have thought that the Knicks

would out-rebound them by 22? Now, you know Joel Embiid is not going to be able to, he's not going to be able to, he's not as mobile as he was. He's got that bulky knee brace. So Tobias, Tobias did good. He had nine, nine rebounds. What Maxie finished with? Yeah

Maxie gonna have to Carry the bulk of the load He gonna have to put the sixes On his shoulders I mean The best way he can Because Embiid Embiid can only do so much

With a bad knee Especially at that height Especially at that size What we're used to seeing from him He's really not gonna be able To be as effective as he wants to, even though it's playoff time. If anything, listen,

I don't think I'm allowed to say it on here, but there's something that we used to take when we were injured a little bit that allowed us to play an effective game where we couldn't feel nothing. I'm not sure if they had the T word. You know, yeah, I can say that. Do they have that in the NBA? Oh, yeah, they got it.

Oh, okay. Well, listen, man, pop one of them and do what you need to do. The Knicks had 23 offensive rebounds. I don't know if it's 23. Offensive rebound 23 to

nine. That'd be interesting. How many second chance points did they have? Can we see that? Hold on. They had had a commanding lead with that. 23 offensive rebounds. That's crazy. Think about how many

the points you scored off of those 23. 26 off of those 23? They got 26. You're going to win the game every time. 26 second chance points. You're going to win the game every time.

Plus 18. Yep. Yep. Yep. So, 18. Yep. Yep. Yep. So, Nick's whole serve at home on a night in which Jalen Brunson did not shoot the ball particularly well.

Normally, guys like Jalen Brunson, when they don't shoot well game one, they come back and light your ass up in game two. Sixers, you better be on your best behavior. You better be on your best behavior. The T-Wol was beat the suns 120 95 with 47.7 seconds remaining in the third quarter and drifted to the left wing shot a shot over trey shot a tray over kevin durant looked at it because he said that's his favorite player uh they had a fun moment together and um ant-man spoke about

this after the game let's take a listen what he had to say the little back and forth with kevin durant there in the game. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. A little back and forth with Kevin Durant there in the third quarter. How fun is that, and what do you make of the atmosphere tonight? I think everybody here knows that's my favorite player of all time, so that was probably one of the best feelings ever in my whole life, for sure. That's dope. That's live. That's live.

It is. I mean, look up to and watch. That has to be one of the greatest feelings of all time. And then to come out there, to have a good game, to hit a shot like that on the person you look up to. And listen, I think this is one of these moments. I think

at one point in time when Zion was coming out, I think they were trying to make Zion the face of the NFL. I mean, I'm talking about NFL. I thought they were trying to make Zion the face of the NFL. I thought they were trying to make Zion the next LeBron James, the face of the NBA. I could be wrong. I just want to know what you think about Anthony Edwards being next in line as the face of the league.

Well, who's the first guy to win the championship? Because you got to win. You're going to have to win. He's doing that. This is the second year in the playoffs. So you're going to have to win. Jason Taylor said,

Hey, I want to play. I want deals. And man, clearly now, the thing is with him, he has the personality. He's got the charisma.

He has the charm. He knows how to talk. job right he gets he gets his situation resolved he gets his head on straight the league is gonna look right ain't nobody gonna be the face of the league until lebron okay yeah you're right you're right i see what you mean i see what you mean but he just looks like he's poised to be next man he looks like he's poised to be next, man. He looks like he's poised to be next. And then when you watch his game.

Yeah. Chat. Tell me I'm not lying. Tell me I'm not lying. If Anthony Edwards movements, his mannerisms do not remind you of 23 that played for Chicago. I'm not saying he's Michael Jordan. I'm just saying his movement, his mannerisms are exactly the same.

Exactly. Yeah. Man, but you look at these guys. If you look at Jordan when he got early. Oh, yeah, he was little. Man, you don't realize how thin he was. Yeah, he was little. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I say, man, damn, Jordan like a stick figure. Mm-hmm. But, man, you talk about athleticism, and he messed around and got with a Tim Grover? Yeah. Mm-hmm. It was good that I ringed. It was good that I read. It was good that I read.

And did he got a cup? You know, Jordan was not a, he was super athletic. He was not a great shooter. He turned himself into that. You don't think he was a good shooter? He turned himself into that mid-range shot. Not when he came out.

No, not when he came out. He got better. He turned himself into what he saw. That turned out to be the money shot. That pull up. He get going and pull up. Yeah. And the fall away, you see Kobe, you see

guys have added that to their repertoire. Now, Dirk came in and started with the one leg. You see a lot of guys. You see Kevin and Ray. You see LeBron. Can't even defend. Shooting You see LeBron. Can't even defend it. You see Sam Foote shooting it up here. Hey, but this is going to be a fun series.

Look, I don't really take too much out of the first because the home team, I mean, obviously we'd have a different story if one of the road teams win. We have something different to talk about. But they hell serve at home. You think, okay, there's a reason why we wanted about. But they hell serve at home. You think, okay, there's a reason why we wanted home court. We hell serve at home. Let's make sure we get two of these. And then we go on the road and see what happens.

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