Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Ryan “KING” Garcia DOMINATES Mario Barrios to WIN WBC Welterweight Title + Gary Antuanne Russell BEATS Andy Kiraoka + Floyd Mayweather is MAKING a COMEBACK

Episode Date: February 22, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Ryan Garcia vs Mario Barrios as they compete for the WBC Welterweight Title, Gary Antuanne Russell beat Andy Hiraoka, and Floyd Mayweather is unretiring from boxing and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI...03:50 - Ryan Garcia beats Mario Barrios18:15 - Gary Antuanne Russell beat Andy Hiraoka24:09 - Floyd Mayweather unretiring after exhibition with Mike Tyson53:00 - Vikings WR Rondale Moore has died at 25   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Ryan Garcia completely dominated this fight. It wasn't even close. Many thought it would go barrios's way or it would be a close fight. It was never close. Never close. But again, Ocho and I will dive into that in just a second.

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punches through eight rounds against Barrios than he did in the entire fight against Roller Ramirez, according to CompuBox. Ojo, you know, it seemed like Barrios was trying to protect himself against the left because we know that is Ryan's power shot.

But all he did, it seemed like his thing was throw the left out there and then hit him with the overhand right. And he landed that shot anytime he wanted to. Every time he threw it, it damn near got home. And from the time he made him touch it within the,

what, the first 30 seconds, first minute of the fight, Ocho, he felt this probably like, well, damn, I ain't expect this. And he didn't, I mean, I'm surprised that his corner didn't have an answer or a counter because I don't understand you want to neutralize the left, but if he doesn't do that, you've got to have a counter to his counter. Ocho, what did you think about this fight? I mean, Ryan dominated the fight, all the rounds,

obviously all 12 rounds. I was hoping Barrios with it, with had much experience, as he has in the ring, of expecting him to adjust at some point. Obviously, when Ryan set the tone and dropping him early, when he hit him on top of the temple, obviously that made him a little gun shy. He didn't really want to throw because he didn't want to get caught.

Outside of that, Ryan did the same thing. Basically, all 12 rounds, I'm jab, jab, check hook every so often, right hand, one, two, and it was really the same thing. I think for anyone, for Barrios to have a chance tonight, he would have had to take some chances. He would have to make the fight ugly. He would have had the fight on the inside and just go to work.

And he didn't do any of those things. He didn't make any adjustments. I mean, based on what I could see and Ryan dominated the entire fight. He did. And that's what makes you so frustrated with Ryan. But when he had a conversation on choice, he said, man, look, I wasn't taking the fight serious.

I was getting drunk. I was doing things that I shouldn't have been doing. He says, but I'm serious about this fight. And you're going to see a different King, Ryan Garcia. That's what he told us. and he was very calm. He seemed very posed, very composed in his tone. He didn't get too high.

He didn't get too low. But what I saw tonight, this is the Ryan Garcia, I want to see. This is a guy that was taking his craft serious. And we said, in the Devon Haney fight, I said, if the man, if the man took, if he took fighting serious, if he got himself in shape, he was in shape tonight. He wasn't tired. He wasn't fatigued.

He fought. All the thing, I think his corner told him, like, bro, say, hey, keep the fight in the middle of the ring. You don't want to get on the road, keep the side of the middle of the ring. And then, hey, you can do whatever you want to do to him from that range. But I was very impressed with what I saw, Ocho. But like I said, it seems like Barrios was expecting the left. And he was protecting himself against the left.

And you're right. The only time Ryan really threw the left was a check hook him. He wasn't trying to throw up with no power. It was just easy to check him. But every time he just stuck that jab out there and clubbed him with the overhand right, like, damn, Barrios. Yeah. Put an umbrella up or something.

Damn, at some point time, you got to block it and not with your head. Yeah, I mean, and it's so funny, when you think about how simplified the one, two is, and to be for the same thing to work for 12 goddamn rounds, for experienced fighter-like barrios to allow it to work for 12 rounds and not making the necessary adjustments round by round in being able to adjust to it and find an answer or counter to that. I mean, that that that tells a lot about Ryan Garcia, his hand speed, but also the power he possesses once he got him to fall down early. Whatever game playing byos came to this fight with, it was out the window. Yeah, I think that was the thing, Ocho.

I don't think he expected Garcia to touch him like that early. Yeah. He definitely didn't expect to touch the mat, expect to touch the mat that early. And it's easy to say, you know, what do this, do that. but you felt this power within the first minute of the fight. He set you down. He set you put you on your ass. Yes, sir.

And so you're like, no, I don't think I want to go. I don't think I want to go back in there. You know, A, D. Hey, I want the honey. Yeah. Those bees, those, those bees are protecting it. And so he fought cautious. And like I said, and I agree with you.

I thought Ryan Garcia, we came on. So I didn't really, did he win? What was it? Was it a shutout? I mean, I'm sure it was. I didn't see a round. I mean, yeah, I just see a round that Barrios actually, actually could have won.

I don't either. I don't either. And I thought, I thought Ryan did a great job. We mentioned he landed more power shots through the first eight rounds. He landed more shots than he did on Barrios and eight rounds than he did, that he did their entire fight against Rowley. He was mentally, physically, emotionally, whatever thing you were psychologically unprepared to fight Rowling.

Mm-hmm. And this fight, this was. was the Ryan Garcia that many expected like, this kid got talent. Yeah. This kid were to take his craft serious. If you want to prepare, he can go far. And the thing that I like about the mocho,

he don't duck, he's already falling in he. Oh yeah. He fought tank, he fought Roly. He fought Barrios. Oh, yeah. He ain't ducking. No, it's not. I would love to see him and him and him in Shakur fight.

I think, I think having a boxer with the IQ that Shakur has, will be able to make the proper adjustments round by round, despite, you know, there's one thing that beats speed, as fast as Ryan is with his hands, but it's one thing that beat speed, and that's time. And having someone like Shakur, who is his defense of prowess, you know, speaks for itself, I think that would be a great fight, you know, for Ryan and Shakur. I'm not sure if it will happen, you know, this soon, but that'd be a dope one. Yeah.

Score cards, 119 to 108, 120 to 107. 118 to 101. I'm trying to figure what round they gave it. Somebody gave him two rounds. I'm honest about you. I'm just, in chat, maybe my TV froze

because it took me a while to get it. It took me a while to get to Amazon Prize so I can watch this, that I can watch the zone. So maybe I miss something. I'm serious, chat. Did y'all see a round in which Barrios won?

No. Oh. Maybe I had to go take a P break. It's up because, man, that man beat the Brooks, that man beat the brakes off, Barrios. I like the middle judge. The middle judge had it because, I mean, the knockdown in the first round,

that's a two-point round right there on show. Yeah, absolutely. So 120 to 107, I like that. I think that's how the score cards should have lined up. Right. But Ryan Garcia gave his father, Henry, his WBC title after securing the win, said, I'm dedicating this to my dad. He had Henry on his trunk. I think now, oh, Joe, don't you get a chain?

You get a belt or you get a chain? Because they was talking about, I saw something on social media about a chain. Well, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I mean, the chain, is that something new? Yeah, I guess. I guess, you know, people think, you know, guys got tired of paying the sanction the fees for the belt. Oh, yeah.

Like, you know, it's supposed to some of the money go to the sanctioning body, which is WBC. Right. Some of it goes to retired fighters that, you know, there's falling on hard times. I don't know where, but now they got, they got a pendant. So I don't, I don't really know. But I just know Ryan Garcia looked really, really good tonight. I was impressed with the way he fought tonight. And like I said, when he came on, was that Wednesday night on show that he, that he, that he was on.

I think it might have been Wednesday. It was Wednesday. And, you know, he was excited about it. coming on and hey and but just listening at him talk yeah he's had some hard times he's been you know under the and he said hey he was drinking I mean he let it be known he had he's he also mentioned about some some mental health issues that he was dealing with he seems to have got those things rectified and got those behind him he's taking his training series he said he had a great a great camp he's in great shape and he was ready to

fight and you know he's like hey he's going to make it look easy and it looked easy Yeah. Yeah, he did. It looked easy, Ocho. I mean, I mean, I, listen, I, like, again, it was kind of weird to me. I mean, Barrios is a former champion. I was expecting more from him. Yeah, I was too, Ocho.

Especially from him with having as much ring experience as he's had, you know, throughout his career. I'm not sure why, why he looked the way he did. But obviously, I'm not the one on the end of those punches that Ryan is thrown. so I can understand, but I expect them more honestly. Yeah, and I think the biggest thing is that he took it serious. I mean, how great do you want to be in a given sport? How great do you want to be in a given craft? Because if you want to be great, you take it serious.

You don't do some of the things, some of the destructive behavior that he had going on and says, I want to be a champion. I want to be great. I want to be remembering this sport. Well, what you were doing is saying that you're, you don't want to be remembered. And you want to have a very short career in your given sport because that was the path that he was headed down.

And I'm glad he was able. I'm glad with the help of family, friends and loved ones, someone that was around him, got in his ear and says, Ryan, if you want to be great, what you're doing is not going to help you be great. And he was able to get back on the right track and hopefully he stays on the right track. Because like I said, Ocho, yeah, there are some fights. I like to see him against your core also. This fight was at what, what, 149, 150?

151? What was this fight at? 147. So it's got to be 147. 147, yeah. 147. Because he mentioned that he was 149 and a half when they weighed in the other day. So 140, 140.

So he was only two and a half pounds. So that was nothing. He had to weigh in on Friday. So two pounds, that ain't nothing. But he looked good. He looked good. I was very, very impressed with Ryan Garcia tonight. He showed us up, Mocho.

And we know he has this kind of ability. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you go back and look at it now, everybody says with the steroids and this or that, but he did a number on Haney. He did. Yeah. Now, tank, he caught,

take caught him. Yeah. But take hit hard. Tank hit heavy. There's a reason why they call him tape for real. I mean, you know, he might be the smallest tank we've ever seen. You know, sometimes the smallest person, they get the name Tiny. Yeah.

I mean, the biggest person makes that. Yeah. I mean, you call Tiny List of Tiny. That man, six, three, 250. And that's another thing is, I mean, from the casual boxer, I'm not sure if you can see the mistakes that Ryan, Ryan is making with a lunging and the thorn the one, two, and then in lunging. He's off balance.

I mean, the boxers, the pure boxers, would take advantage of that. They take advantage. I don't even think people can see it. I can see it where he's off balance, but he's trying to throw combinations, but he's not even, he's not even planning it. You know, a tank or Shakur or some of those that are he leaped out. But Shakur definitely a poor counter. Yeah, poor counting.

They'll take advantage of some of the mistakes he was making the night, but he was so fast and Barrios was so gun-shy and scared to throw, he was able to get away with it. Yes. And the thing is you got to be careful with all that lunging and all that because they'll time it up perfect. Yeah, exactly. You know what, Pachia, I had a bad habit of that. He do this and coming in there.

The bouncing. And Mark Antonio Barreira, and the bell rang, the school bell rang, the church bell rang, and he still didn't get up. So you have to, you, were you fighting great fighters? Yes. You have to be careful. You really have to be on point. Oh, yeah. You got to.

Uh, Shakur is technically sound. He's a technically sound fighter. And you can't make the mistakes that you made against Barrios and expect to be Shakur. He'll make you pay for every mistake. Every last one. It's like, you know, the teachers, like, some of the teachers, they didn't let no mistake go like, damn, she didn't run out of red ink on my paper.

She had to get a whole new pen. She's circling everything. It should have been a comment. It was a period. It should have been, an exclamation point. But damn. But, uh, congratulations. Ryan Garcia, the WBC welterweight champion as he beats Mario Barrios in convincing fashion,

119 to 108, 120 to 107, 118 to 109, and he is the WBC, uh, welterweight champ. Been some great guys that's held that belt. You go back to Sugar Ray and Tommy Herds and, and, and, and, uh, Floyd. I said, bud. Yeah. Now, he got it. Yeah. I'm excited.

I'm excited. I just, I want to know who the next fight is. I mean, do you rematch, do you rematch, do you rematch Roli? Ask the fight Roli again? You know, I'm, I don't know. I'm curious. I'm curious. It's so many good fights that, that can be made.

I mean, what's next? It wasn't bare. It was Juan Marquez, Juan Marquez, that that caoed Pacquiao. Yeah. When he laid him out, yeah, Lady Mouthfront. It was a trilogy fight, wasn't it? I think it was a trilogy fight in which he got it.

But he was winning, Pachial was winning. Yeah. Pekhout was winning the fight. It got reckless. And boom, and ding, bailed. And he couldn't answer the bell. He caught on that rhythm. He caught on to his rhythm.

That bouncing, bouncing. Sugar shame was like that. If you know the sugar shave would always before he throw. Mm-hmm. Gary, Antoine Russell, defeated Andy Hieroka. By unanimous decision, Russell retained his WBA Jr. Welterweight title with a score of 117 to 110, 116 to 111, 111. Me personal, I thought it was a little closer than that.

Hey, that 10th round, I thought it was going to be a draw. That's it because of that 10th round, I thought it was going to be a draw. Young Bull, Gary was fighting. You know, he was the aggressor the entire last round. I'm saying, wait a minute. Come on now. I mean, but listen, Gary, I don't think Gary was hurt at any point in the fight. He caught a body shot early in the fight, but he didn't show any signs that it actually hurt him.

Listen, it was a good fight. It was a good, good little, good, good, good little scrap. I wouldn't want to be a judge in this one, though. I wouldn't want to be a judge in this one, but Gary did win the fight. I mean, be happy, happy for him. It was good. That opponent, but he wasn't easy at all. I don't even know how to pronounce his last name, but it wasn't easy at all.

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Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I wrote, okay, yeah. But I, the thing was, Ocho, I thought Russell got out to a great start. Very good. Because I thought the early rounds, I liked the first two or three, four rounds, I thought, you're like, okay, man, this is going to be easy work for Russell. Yeah, cakewalk, huh? No, no, sir.

No, sir. Oh, boy, said, nah, it ain't about to be, it ain't about to be, it ain't about to be that. No, it ain't about to be that easy for you, bro. They asked Russell after the fight, to my UOst your country, like, you know, let me build up. That man to build up his reputation. Let me get by this. Like, I don't want to go.

Man, let me hold on my bill a little while longer. What y'all trying to do? I just got the bill. Yeah. And you're trying to make me turn it over to somebody else. No, but Shikour says he has great respect. He said, I guess they sparred at some point in time. So he's very familiar with the young man.

But I thought the fight was closer than, I thought it was closer to 117 to 110 and 116 and 111. but hey, the judges saw it differently and that's all that matters, Ocho. It's how they see it. And they saw it 117 to 110, 116 to 111, 116 to 111. In the post-by interview,

Russell avoided calling out WBO championship course, Stevenson, and took aim at WBC champion Dalton Smith and IBM title Richardson Hitchens. Ocho? Mm-hmm. I mean, Hey, go here.

No, go here, go ahead. What you please say? Hey, you see. The man, I look, I won't tank to get this ish together. I won't tank and Shakur to fight. We got a while before that. You might, yeah, you might, yeah, you might, yeah, you might, yeah, you might, yeah, you might, yeah, you might, yeah, it's going to be a while. I say maybe a year or two before, before.

Damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, Shikori ain't sitting around waiting on him to know two to a year or two. Yeah, but I'm, I'm just about a tank situation. It's not going to be this year. So, maybe, maybe, maybe in two. 27 maybe but you know taint got to get his stuff situated on yeah he got to get his life in order man yeah but once once he do and he come back he's still he still even with the mishaps

you know outside the ring he might still be the face of boxing because everybody is still waiting for him to get back and be on point but the problem is ocho even though he has those issues going on and he can be sparring if he's not incarcerated and hopefully that doesn't happen but we'll have to waiting scene. Ocho, you got a fight. Yeah. You got to fight. Spar.

And Ali was able to spar, but he wasn't fighting. Right. And he was never the same. Yeah, it's not the same. After that three-year hiatus, he wasn't. You take time off. It's hard to come back. Tyson was never the same fighter.

Now, we understand that was a totally different set of circumstances, Ocho, you know, I mean, you could only do so much in there. I mean, he's like doing push-ups. I mean, they wouldn't let him go to the gym. But in that sport or any sport, in order to be good at it, you gotta stay good. You gotta stay active.

Think about it. It took Jordan time. Cause when he came back, he was like, yeah, he had a game here, but he wasn't, and you're like, damn. But then once he got time back, but just imagine two years as a boxer. Yeah, that's crazy.

You gotta be in the ring, Ocho. I know you got to. It don't matter how much sparring you're doing. Yeah. It don't matter how much, you know, fighting, actually fighting and having ring rust, you know, and you can spar all you want to, but actually fighting and being under them lights is a different ballgame. And P.U.O. you do have ring rust. So when he does come back, he's going to have to fight someone that really ain't much of a challenge.

You can't put yourself in harm's way, so it has to be someone that you know you can beat. Just get yourself back in rhythm. Get yourself back. Get a feel for being. back in the room again and get comfortable. Running wind spritz is not the same thing as training camp. No.

I don't give it down how many you run and how many you run. Hey, we run in 14, 16 seconds. We're taking 45 second break. Right. Let them blow that damn whistle and go too many or no huddle and see how your ass huffing and puffing and puffing.

Man, please. I don't care. I don't care nothing about the windspreads. I don't. I don't care about no 40 tests. I don't care nothing about no condition. when they put them pads that helmet on your ass and like okay no huddle okay too minute period it's different it damn sure is completely different and so I could

understand a guy that the inactivity in the ring rust because all of a sudden I mean to be able to see you still see but to be able to see those punches once you get in the ring and the guys that you sparred with that's not Shakur Stevenson that's not a Keishon Davis that's not the top echelon fighters and like you say When he does come back, he's going to have to fight somebody. Hey, basically a tomato can. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't put yourself in the harms, but you ain't got none to pool.

Get to get yourself back in rhythm, get acclimated, being in the ring, being under the lights. People, you know, the people that love boxing, they're going to enjoy it. And when the timing is right, that's when you make that big fight. That's when you make that mega fight. You don't come back and just give and you're stepping it right, right away and put yourself in, I like, I like calling the harms one. way. But you don't make that fight. Yeah, you're a couple of easy ones under you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know who I want to see next, honestly? Who? I want to see Lamont Roach and Shakur. That'll be a good fight. Now, listen, we talk about a chess match. Now, that would be a phenomenal chess match that I would love to see. Well, how about this here? Floyd Mayweather, Jr. said he's unretiring and will resume his undefeated career after his planned exhibition against Mike Tyson.

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Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Mike Tyson event to my next professional fight afterwards. No one will generate a bigger gate, have a larger global broadcast audience, and generate more money with each event than my events. And I plan to keep doing it with my global media partner, CSI Sports slash fight sports. Ocho.

Hey, I'm glad we own this one. I'm glad we on this one. Go ahead. Take it away. Floyd a chat stay with me real quick y'all y'all know how much i love boxing my boxing enthusiast i'm one that's been in the ring as well i've trained with all the best fighters in the world but in in in order for florida to come back right to be able to command the kind of money he wants obviously i'm not sure if he's in financial problems or not but why would you why would you at this

age come out of retirement after not fighting since what 2017 if i'm not mistaken something like that eight years yeah eight years outside of exhibitions obviously is to do what he's all always said is have a bank robbery with no mask on. So if that's what you're going to do, there are only three fights, chat, listen to me. There are only three fights that Floyd can have that can command and get the kind of money he's looking to recoup for money that may have been lost or money that may have been stolen or money he may have spent, you know, to date. For one, a rematch with Canello. That's one fight. Camillo too big. He let that go. Listen to me, we talk about making that money. He ain't going to have no choice.

Number two, fighting pack y'all again. Right? That's it. And the only other fight that can get him the kind of money and the kind of pay that he might need if you're coming out of retirement and putting your record in jeopardy, and that's bud.

Man, Lord, how much? Listen to what I'm saying. Whether you want to see it or not, the only three fights that are going to get him the kind of money he's coming out of retirement to get that the world, wants to see Canelo, Pacquiao, or Bud.

There is no one else for him to fight that people are going to pay money to see. Think about it. For one, in order for him to come out of retirement, you have to put yourself in harm's way. You have to take a chance. You can't just be fighting anybody. They're not going to pay

to see you just fight anybody. It has to be a draw. Canelo, you got to take a chance. You don't have a choice. He has to take a chance. he does really, Ocho, his claim to fame. Yes. And everything that he's ever done was for what?

That O. Yeah. If the O'O is gone, you look at him differently. Yeah. He's not the same, Ocho. Yeah. He's not. His claim to fame is that I can say something.

All the fighters that you say are great. Right. None of them can say that above me. You talk about Sugar Ray. You talk about Herds. You talk about Hagler. You talk about Roy Jones. You talk about Sugar Ray Robinson.

You talk about Lewis and Ali. Whoever, he always goes back to the O. If the O is gone, where does he put his hat now? I have no idea. I have no idea. I mean, damn that's i i don't know i don't know i don't know i'm talking i'm talking about i'm talking about paydays i'm talking about paydays you know you're 50 and oh jo his reflexes aren't the same oh joe i i

know that uh well i mean i mean obviously once you get older father time catches up with you at some point but he he still he's still one of the best ever yeah he's still one of the best ever When he was fighting, not at 50, not in his 40s, yes, in his 20s and 30s. Yes, yes, yes. I give you a prime example. When Floyd fought Connor McGregor, a prime Floyd gets Connor out inside of two rounds. He didn't want to. It's all about carrying him.

He carried him through the fight just to give the people what they wanted. But go ahead. But if you look at them, Ocho, he's not going to be able to see those punches of them young kids throwing now. Well, he's not fighting by the young. I just gave you the three, I just gave you the three fights that makes sense. Ocho, he'll go, and he'll go right back in the retirement.

I don't think Bud will to take the fight. Bud don't want to hurt him. He got too much respect for him. Bud has hurt him, Ocho. Bud is still at the top of it. Bud is the power-for-pound best fighter in the world. And you're talking about coming after eight-year layoff. He can come and fight him?

Do you understand why he's coming out of retirement? Are we missing the point here? We understand why. Come on, man. No, no, Ocho, I hope that's not true. I hope he, Ocho, I hope he has an it. Ocho, I can hope. I hope he has an itch to scratch.

And he needs to scratch that itch. I'm hoping that's the case, Ocho. I'm hoping. I can hope. Let me hope, Ocho. I don't want to be cynical. I don't, I don't want to be skeptical. I want to believe that the man has an itch that he wants to scratch

and it only can be scratch getting back into the ring. I don't want to think that financially his situation is unstable. I don't. I don't want to see. Orjo, why are you looking at me like that, man? No, I'm just listening. I hear you. I'm listening.

No, but I'm saying why you looking at me like that. Oh, no, no. No, I'm not. No, I'm just listening. I'm just, I'm just. I hope. I mean, we can hope, Ocho, can we? Oh, Lord.

How much. This, man. Oh, Jesus. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I just know he's coming out and, uh, uh, maybe, maybe. I'll be, look, I, chat, I, this is not no breaking news. Y'all have heard all the reports and people who said Florida is broke and this and I don't know. I don't know Floyd like that. I don't. I don't know the man finances and I'm not going to get up in and say pretend like I do. I just hope. I can hope.

Yeah. that that's not the case yeah i mean i'm i'm listen i'm excited i'm excited as a as a flannel for it as as a fan of boxing i look forward to him not fighting exhibition but having the fight and actually trained the way he's always trained that has him 50 and oh that has me excited is he going to look like the foil we used to seeing when he fought earlier in his in his career we know when he's when he's in in the 20s, when he's in the 30s? Probably not. No, he reflects is a slower. Yeah, even if it's reflexes are a little slower.

It gives me a certain excitement. It gives me a certain excitement that no fluid is coming back to that ring. Going back into the ring. And he's going to take a fight very seriously. He's going to train very seriously. It just makes me excited. And I just threw out the three names to me, despite the side, despite whoever's in their prime,

despite whoever is younger. To me, to come back, at this point, you know, at 48 or 47, whatever it is, and you're 50, you know, the biggest fights that can generate the most money for someone whose nickname Money Made, whether three names, whether people say, oh, that's dumb, or you're not making no sense. It makes the most sense from a financial standpoint and drawing in that kind of revenue. And that was Connello, whether he's big or not, that was Bud, whether he's the best in the world right now or not. And That was Manny Pac-Yau.

That's all I'm saying. What are you thinking is dumb enough? I'm thinking from this aspect. Okay, let me ask you a question. First of all, Canelo can't get, Kenello ain't going under 168, Bud ain't going under 160. So what, so Floyd,

you're going to have Floyd come up to 160? No, I'm, I'm, I'm not. He's only fought one time at 154. He fought day La Jolla here 54. I'm not talking about weight classes. I said what makes the most sense. Now, what they decide to do is on them. I'm talking about from a financial standpoint.

If you're having to come back at this point of your career after eight-year layoff, we talk about, okay, I need a big payday. That's all I'm talking about. Well, fight Shakur. Shakur right at 47, fight Keishon Davis. No, come on, man, you can't fight the young bull. You can't fight the young bulls. You want to fight, you want him to fight Bud?

He's going to come out better against him than Bud. At least you're like, well, damn, he got a hillbilly heartbeat chance. He's not effing with Bud. Just a few weeks ago, Floyd filed a lawsuit against Showtime Networks and the former president of Showtime Sports accusing the company of helping facilitate a fraud scheme that deprived him of roughly $340 million in earnings. Yeah, damn. $3.40? That's what the lawsuit said. I don't know, Ocho.

Hold on, hold on. Time out. Time out, time out, time out. Let me give me a paper towel because just $3, $340 million. Hold on, hold on, because now you got me sweat. Let me, let me, now you see what, you know what? I'm, I'm kidding. Oh, Joe.

I'm just saying, I don't know why this man coming back. I'm not fed to profess that I know, but I've heard what the chat is heard and see all the reports where people say that he's in a financial bind. I don't know that to be true. Uh, he has, he has, uh, reports that he has sold some properties. Um, may, I, I think he has, he has, uh, he has, uh, um, may, I think he has, He had a property in LA, he had a property in Miami. He has a big residency out here in Vegas.

He has the private plane. So I don't know, I don't know, Ocho. I don't know. I don't know normally people that are well off don't go back into a sport as by Berwick as boxing at 48 X, Y, and Z. That's not normal. But everything doesn't have to make sense to me. It just has to make sense to him.

And obviously it makes sense. Hey, I know a lot of people, they, they probably don't laugh. They're going to talk about weight, you know, oh, they can't fight these individuals because how good they are right now. And Floyd, even though he's a little, he might be a little slower. His timing not be the same as it once was. But I'm hypothetically speaking, if he's coming back in need of huge, huge payouts for fights, I just threw out the three names that would make the most sense that would generate the most money to maximize his time coming out of retirement at 48 and in putting a chance and in losing, you know, that zero and that 50-0 record.

I mean, it'd make it be massive. It'd be massive. And I know Turkey Ali, if he gets involved in that, it is, it can be, ugh. It can get ugly, ugly in a good way. It can get ugly in a good way from a financial standpoint. Mayweather says that he suffered enormous financial harm and is missing at least $340 million from a reported $1.2 billion that he actually earned

in his professional fight career. Oh, my goodness. $3.40? Swing on. I mean, Oh, that's an addition. So he's reporting that they,

they boosted. Why would they did it, 340, but he earned 1.2. So that's 1.5. Damn. Florida's lived in Vegas. So those career earnings,

I mean, Uncle Sam only take him 37%. Because he ain't playing no state taxes. Oh, man. I just. Hey, I like it. I like it. I listen. I don't, I don't, I don't care what the reason is why you're coming back. I'm glad you're coming back because I get to watch you fight again. I don't. I get to watch the watch the greatest box of all time fight again. Even at 40 years old. And he had to take it serious because his record of death state. So I know I know one one thing. One thing we know about Floyd. One thing. One thing. One thing we know about Floyd. One. One. One thing. One. thing we know about him, hardest worker in the sport. And he ain't taking no shortcuts and he ain't cut no corners.

So you know what you're going to get once he's stepping that ring. He lose. You still got him as the greatest fighter? Come again. I ain't here. If he loses when he comes back or do you still have him as the greatest fighter? Can I tell you something?

Yes. If he comes back, he's not going to lose. Well, he's going to have to fight. You said he can't fight anybody outside of the people that you dismayed. Now the people I name, I said being able to maximize your purse outside those names that I did name, maximizing your purse would be taking those fights. Regardless of weight and all that stuff, I'm not sure how I'm just, I'm speaking from a financial standpoint.

That's all. That's all. You think right now, give him six months a year, he can beat Bud Crawford in a 12 round fight. Who? How are you asking me? They didn't fight yet. Do you believe? You're going to have to pick a side?

Just like in the Super Bowl, you're like, okay, I'm taking Seattle. Oh, yeah, Seahawks? Yeah, you took Seattle, even though they hadn't played. So I'm asking you, Floyd and Bud fight, you take in Floyd or you take it Bud. Yeah. Ooh, that's ugly, um, that's ugly right there. What do you mean? It's ugly.

I'm just saying, just the question, the question at hand, because you, ooh, that's a good one, too. Who you got? Huh? Who you got? Hey, chat, who y'all got? Hypertedly. The chat, everybody got Bud. You got you got bud?

Yeah Floyd reflex is The man about to be 50 50 Damn How old is Floyd 48? We're just saying

I mean He 48 I'm 10 years older So yeah He was born in 68 Floyd Floyd were born in Yeah Hey

Hey aunt What What? Hey I'm excited What Unk I'm ready to get back in that thing

Hey, who you want me fight, uh, I don't, I don't want to, I, I hate it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you hate which part? Wait a minute. I hate the Florida having to come back. No, I don't, I don't, I don't hate it. I want, I want to see him go. I want to see him go. I want to see him go. Hey, uh, I want to, I want to see him go. I want, I want to, I want to see him go. Hey, I'm ready to see that. That would be, that would be the equivalent. That would be the equivalent that 10 years after 10 years after Michael Jordan retired. he came back and tried to play basketball again at 50.

Hey, I like that too. I like that too. I like that too. I like that too. No, you make all that money, man. You make all that money. You're supposed to be able to sit generations, like at least, at least, at least, at bare minimum,

four to five generations up. And yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, listen, you're setting yourself up a generation of wealth when you live a minimalistic lifestyle. Now, where you look. Oh, come on now. Come on now. Come on, come on, come on.

We don't have to get into it. We know Floyd was a little extravagant. A little. A little. He was a little extravagant. Come on, man. Hey, a little. Yeah.

You know what? But the thing is is that what you have to realize. Yeah. Is that when you're making $200 million, it ain't nothing to spend $15, $20 million. Shouldn't me? But when you, but, oh, Joe, when you retire. Right.

still live that. Oh, I can go get me a car every other year. I can go get me a Ferrari or I can get a Lambo when I'm making 20, 30 million and the money coming in. Okay, the money stops. Yeah. And I still try to have that same lifestyle.

See, that's the problem that you run into. Yeah. Is that you try to keep the same lifestyle that you have in retirement that you have when you're at maximum earning potential. It's impossible. And I understood that while I was playing. We know it's impossible. I know, but sometimes people don't understand.

Actually, if you can train yourself, if you can discipline yourself and find a structured format to be able to live a minimalistic lifestyle while you're still earning, you know, at your highest potential. Yes. It makes a transition once you retire that much easy. Yeah. Why you think I've been, I mean, I hate using me an example, but I'm the only person I can use as an example because I'm living proof of doing it.

And not only did I do it, I taught. I preach it. And people still make funn him to this day and still don't get it. Why I'm still well off. It's the same thing. Because I was a cheap son of a bitch when I was playing. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah.

My bad. Mm-hmm. Because I was a cheap son of a you know what while I was playing. Yes. That jury wasn't real. No them watches weren't real. For what? It didn't make any sense.

My name was bigger than anything I could purchase at the time I was playing football. I haven't played football in 15. What, 12? I don't know how long it's been. And I'm still good. Nobody gets the formula. Nobody gets what I were doing. There was the method to my madness.

So I wouldn't be a statistic. That's all. I didn't want to be a statistic. I don't have any problem enjoying because a part of it is that you work so hard and not to really enjoy to buy yourself a car or to buy yourself a watch. You buy yourself a night's home or do occasionally some stuff for your family. But don't you at what point? time. I like cars. I don't like 50 cars. I like homes. I don't need 10 homes. I don't. I will have a,

you know, maybe I would fly private once or twice a year. But to have a private jet. Right. And to have that staff because even when they're not flying, they're still getting paid. It's just like a yacht. It's just like a yacht. that takes a staff it takes a crew so even when that yacht's not on the water they still getting paid hey hey hey hey that a like owning a jet and in owning a yacht that's for correct me if I'm wrong isn't that for CEOs yeah a lot of CEOs because the company owners yeah well yeah if if yeah if you work 15 20 billion yeah oh yeah see it makes sense for this them to have it. But for us regular folk, I'd never understood, you know, sometimes

my time shares in it. Yeah, that's, you know what? I'm going to spend a million dollars. A million dollars probably get, it probably would get me, you know, it'll get me 50 hours. But also, I'm not flying overseas on no private jet. Because how far are you going? If it takes you 18 hours to get there

and 18 hours to get back and you bought 50 hours, that's 36 hours there. Hey, can I ask you a question? Yes. I'm curious. Why does, why do people love on Instagrams? Why do they love showing them themselves going and getting on private jets and everybody getting on the jet setting?

I don't understand. What was what was what was? Look, and I get why people fly private because of the convenience of it. The jet leaves when you want to leave. You're not on the schedule of Delta American. And a lot of times, Ocho, and I'm just talking about high value people.

I'm not, and that's what I'm talking about, don't you know, so you look at it at, and so that's, that's the convenience, you ain't got to worry about the airport, you pull up to the hangar, you get your car, you get on,

and you, you, you, you, you, you, you, hot right on, you got the staff, whatever the case may be, whatever you want, they have it there,

you get there, boom, drop you off, you get in the car, and you go wherever you go. So I get it, I get it. As someone that is flown,

a private, I get why, the convenience of it, but to, but to own, one to actually say okay that's mine and you're talking about you know i mean probably you can get a cheap one for a probably round probably five million and they go up to a half a billion get a cheap what a jet on can ask you yeah who make who making who's making that kind of money right where they can

stand and say you know what he'll go five million for a jet outside of NBA outside of owner owners that own NFL teams, you know, MLB teams. Well, I guarantee you, Peyton, I guarantee you, Tom Brady ain't been on a commercial flight in 20 years. I guarantee you, Peyton Manning ain't been on a commercial flight in 20 years. They don't, they don't own one. There's a difference. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You lease it or they buy time shares in it. Oh, no problem. Hey, I got a question. Yes. Now, when you say timeshare, now this is all new to me and I'm glad I could be on for this segment where I can learn something. You buy hours. You buy 50.

You buy 100 hours. Oh, so you get it for the year. That's too high. You're going too high. Now I want to... It all depends on how much you're going to use it, Ocho. I just want one flight.

One flight, me and the kids to the Bahamas, two-hour trip. How much is that? It's going to take your end of all the pins on how big a plane you get. All right. It's going to be somewhere between... It can be anywhere between 25 and 5 all the way up to 20,000 an hour.

No, you said 25, like 25-100? $2,500. $2,500? $2. $2. $2. $100, it all depends on the size of the plane. Okay.

You want something that's safe. You don't want no crop dusting with you and all your kids on it. So you're going to want something safe. You're probably not going to be able to get it for less than probably say $5,000, $7,700 an hour. That's one way or two way. That's one way. So how are you going to get back? Well, you said you just wanted for an hour.

How long it's going to take you from Miami to the Bahamas? About 40 minute flight. Okay. So it could probably cost you, probably cost you somewhere between 10, and $20,000. Oh, who. Oh, Lord.

No, so. And now think about taking a private jet overseas. Take it to Dubai. Take it into Africa. Take it to Europe. Oh, no. You're talking about 10 hours. And you're talking about 10 hours of the jet

that's costing you $50,000 an hour. Or excuse me, 25. Look at what a G6 costs, a Gulfstream 6. Hold on. Or airbus. Yes. Look up with the price of a G a G650 I think they got a G650

Maybe even a G7 right now Let me Google this See what that is for a G G G What does it cost an hour Just to rent in an hour Private jet 10 to 20,000 per hour

Oh man, shoot Hey So you're going overseas Can you go overseas I mean I'm trying to figure out Where can you fly for less than 100,000. Even if you go from New York to London,

that's what, eight hours? Uh-huh. And that's, what, 20,000 an hour? Yes. That's almost, oh, no, but y'all can have that, boy. Listen, I, I appreciate American. I appreciate Delta. I appreciate spirit, you know,

but I can't see myself doing it unless, unless God bless me in some crazy, crazy way. Huh? I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, But here's the thing. Ain't nobody, none of my family is in the same. So I would have to have a jet.

Fly to go pick up my sister. Fly to go pick up my mom. Fly to come out better. Just fly everybody. Just where are you from? Right. Just me. It's just easy to do it that way.

And if I'm going overseas, I can fly Emirates. I can fly Qatar Air. Yeah, bingo. I can fly one of those, oh, Joe. And pay 20,000. It got a shower. I got a big old bed. I got a couch.

You got a big screen TV. They bring your caviar champagne, cramp, even like they eat any of that. Right. What I'm saying. So I can fly on Emirates or Qatar Air or some of those big, you know. Yeah. And get the same luxury. Yeah.

Nah, man. Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. You know, all them people on Instagrams be stunt, Unk, they be, you know, on the private jets and stuff. I had to reassess myself with you. I was like, damn, what type of life they live in? Hey, something ain't right. I'm talking about everybody flying private.

Everybody? I don't know what they're doing, but, you know, it's cool. I mean, listen, you get where you got to get to. I'm going to get where I got to get to. I'm going to get from point A to point B on spirit. I'm good. You see I went to Ralea, right? You saw what I was on, right?

I was on spirit. I went 20 minute flight, comfortable. They gave me some peanuts. I had my little coke with no ice. I ain't got, man got nobody impressed, man. Man, child, please. 20 and 30 grand just to fly by myself because I won't convince man please I like to talk to people I like to talk so whoever's sitting next to me we're for to talk yeah but uh I hate it I'm not

I'm not I'm not I'm excited about Floyd coming back because I'm not and I wish I and hopefully if if they shorted him his money he gets his money back But I hate that at 40 years old, you haven't had to do anything. I mean, just imagine, Ocho, if you had to try to go back and play football right now. Me? Yeah. Ooh, I get a boy that work. What?

Everybody does all. Hey, up. Hey, call it, up, call it. No, no. Time out. Time out. Time out. Come on, son.

Come on. Come here. Come on. Are you taking me out the game? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're taking you out the game. Hey, I'm telling you, boy. Hey, at 48 right now, shoot, if Floyd come out of retirement, I'm coming out of retirement too.

Hey, Mike Brown, Katie, Troy Blackburn, howl at your boy, Duke Tobin, Zach Taylor. Just picture this, unc, me, T. Higgins, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, Chase. Chase Brown Huh? I can't wait to hear him call my name coming out of the tunnel Starting at wide receiver

for the Cincinnati Bengals Chad Johnson Then I come out And the smoke be gone And the fan be chatting my name Oh Cho Oh Cho! Oh, Joe

Oh, oh, but don't let me score in 2026 Don't let me score no touchdown in 2026, boy. Oh my God, but they're going to suspend me for the week. I hope Floyd makes enough money against this Tyson thing that he won't have to do it. Well, how about, hey, what you think about me and Floyd fighting? Like a little exhibition, like to give him a little tune-up before he fight for real. Yeah. What do you think about that?

I'm all for it. And I can with my nightcap gear and all that, my nightcap trunks. You know? That'll be real nice, boy. Ocho is with a very, very sad heart, with a very, very sad heart that I bring this news to you. Vikings wide receiver, Ron Dale Moore, has died at the age of 25. According to the New Albany Police Chief today, Todd Bailey said, Ron Dale Moore was found deceased with a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his garage on his property in New Albany, Indiana.

An investigation is underway. Ron Delmore dead of a self-inflicted what is being reported at a, self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 25. Man, my condolences, my condolence to the Moore family, man. Damn, that's sad. It is so sad. 25 years of age. It's been a very difficult,

the NFL peer players association is devastated by the sudden and tragic passing of Ron Dale Moore. The immense loss is felt deeply across our union, and we value his service as a player rep. Our condolences to the family are with Rondell's family, teammate, and loved ones during this incredible difficult time. In moments like this, we're reminded of how much our players carry on and off the field. To our members, please know that the support is always within reach.

Check on your teammates and prioritize your mental health. If you or someone you know is struggling, we encourage you to take advantage of many confidential resources available to you through the NFLPA. Damn. You don't know. sometimes what a person is going through. And unless you've been through something, I'm talking about really been through something,

you have no earthly idea. None. Everybody says, all this, all that, you don't know. I promise you, you don't know. You have no earthly, earthly idea. I can't even begin to fathom the burden that that young man was carrying.

And my heart breaks for his family, his friends, his loved ones, anyone that knew Rondell Moore, that cared about Rondell Moore, my heart breaks. 25, 25. Young, life just starting, brother. And he did not, he thought this was his only way. This is the only way that that pain would go away. Damn

Something so hard, so heavy that someone would take their own life reportedly. You don't know how bad pain is. Because, you know, a lot of times, Ocho, well, I wouldn't do this, I wouldn't do that. Everybody will say what they would or wouldn't do. But until you end that situation,

you never know. You don't know what you'll do. People never know. Everybody always says that, um, they do. That's what I would have did. I would have did this. I would have did X, Y, and Z.

No, you wouldn't. Bro, unless you walked a mile in that man's shoes or that woman's shoes, you have no earthly idea. You haven't. And as I sit here and ponder

when I got the news tonight that this young man was no longer here, what was so bad? that he thought this was the only way. And when you think you've gone through something, you can't go on, and you feel that's your only alternative. Because a lot of times you don't know.

I mean, because a lot of times go to you call, hey, man, how you do? Man, I'm good, man, you know. No, are you good? Are you really good? Mm-hmm. Because sometimes, you know, you just want to get up the phone. You don't want to be bothered.

Right, right. And you don't want people in your business. And you just, like, try to make the conversation. but I'm glad I have the people that I have in my life. I'll say that. Everybody doesn't have a brother and a sister like I have and everybody don't have best friends like I have. Rondale's more family.

I am so, so sorry. And I know words, there's nothing I can say. There's no amount of heartfelt speeches. I know absolutely not. nothing can ease this pain that you're going through. But what I can say is that I hope is that when you fall on your knees and you ask the man above to give you strength, to give you courage,

and to give you understanding in your most trying time, and hopefully as time passes, you will have a better understanding. But it's not going to be easy. You're never going to forget this movement. A heartbreak for his family. 25, 25. You think back and you think about what you were doing at 25, Ocho.

You was having the time of your life in the NFL. Yeah. You had reached the culmination. Everything that you dreamed about, dreamt about when you was in Libby City and you and your boys, y'all running around, going to the pool and doing whatever you was doing. Like, man, I'm going to be playing on Sundays one day, and there it is, you're doing it. I guarantee you, when he was a kid, he dreamt the playing in the NFL. My brother always says a dream is a gift that you give to yourself.

And your dream should shock you. If your dream don't shock you, it's not big enough. He dreamt of playing in the NFL. He didn't dream of having seasoning the injuries in 24 and 25, but he dreamt to playing in the NFL. But something came along and interfered with that. It's been reported, Rondell Moore, unfortunately, passed away at the age of 25.

Hollywood Brown, a former teammate of Ron Dale Moore in Arizona, said Ron Dale reached out to him just a few hours before he died. You wasn't alone, bro. I told you I know how you feel. Bro, ain't no way, brother. You just messaged me a few hours ago. After missing the entire 2024 season with a knee injury, he suffered another season ending ACL tear during Minnesota Vikings' first preseason game.

Jamal Adams tweeted, I'm not jumping to conclusions, but let me say this. Fans and media be quick to label player injury prone. We don't choose to get hurt. Sometimes it just happens. Y'all don't see the rehab, the pain, the mental drain it causes. The process can make you lose yourself. This issue is real.

No matter how much support you get, you still got to fight that battle alone. Prayers up for Ron Dale Moore and his family. He was a baller, no question. You do. And see, that's the thing, Ocho. all the support but what happens when the phone hangs up you by yourself

alone in your thoughts so when the phone calls when they hang up and then everybody go home I'm right back to square one I'm alone in my own thoughts thinking man is this a dream is this really if this really my life

if this really happening again you gotta take the good with the bad Ocho and sometimes it's easy to question the bad but not one time did you ever question God why you bless me so much why you let me make it to the NFL why you let me get all this money

why you let me have beautiful healthy kids sometimes we only call on them when things go bad but it's when the times of the things are at the best that's when he's carrying you also but we just don't see it Ron Delmore to all his family friends and love one again the nightcap family

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