Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Say GOODBYE to Ocho’s Dolphins + STUNNED at Mahomes TEARING ACL & LCL + OVER for Anthony Richardson as Colts CHOOSE Rivers + WHY is Joe Burrow still PLAYING?

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Pittsburgh Steelers beating the Miami Dolphins on Monday night football to stay atop of the division, the Kansas City Chiefs released that Patrick Mahomes tore his ACL & LCL in his left knee, and Anthony Richardson has been cleared to play but Phillip Rivers will still remain the starter and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 4:23 - Steelers beat Dolphins22:43 - Chiefs released update on Patrick Mahomes injury39:21 - Colts Anthony Richardson cleared to play but Philip Rivers will start51:05 - Jayden Daniels has been shut down for the remainder of the year (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the Lions, they go on the road at the Lions, the Steelers, oh Joe, excuse me, on the road at Steelers and home to the Ravens. No, excuse me what I say. Oh, at Lions, at Browns, home to the Ravens. Yeah. So they got two road games and a home game. The home game is at the Ravens,

and that's what the NFL is done. Everybody's final game will be a division opponent because they got tired of people resting Ocho. People were resting their guys and not playing and people have paid all these half dollars for these tickets and the media company's like, hold on. Now we're not going to get a chance to see Mahomes. We're not going to get a chance to see the star quarterback

because there's nothing else to play for. Now they wanted this thing for something to play for and they do have something to play for the Steelers. The Ravens are right there neck and neck with them. They'll see if they can overtake them. But look, Steelers got off to a great start. guys making plays DK with a tremendous catch and run. Van der Scantlin,

who just got there a couple of weeks ago, seemingly. They're familiar with Aaron Rogers. So it's not surprised that he was able to, he understands what Rogers. When Rogers moves, he moves right along with him. He caught a touchdown. They tossed it to John Hussmith. John Hussmith ran it in.

But I thought Aaron Rogers spun the ball really, really well tonight, Ocho, 23 or 27, 2, 24, two touchdowns, no interceptions. He was sack three times. But, hey, as long as you take care of the ball, football good things normally happen what you like about what you saw from the Pittsburgh Steelers tonight I mean the Steelers look good they look good on offense they look good on defense special teams as well obviously special teams wasn't really a factor tonight but Aaron Roders like you did say young man he spun it really well I think it was

23 for 27 2 TD 224 and that goddamn DK McHap is damn disrespectful he's disrespectful what he did what he did on that play was very disrespectful obviously my my dolphins my dolphins we got to go back to doing tackling drills I know the season is over, but you've got to be able to bring a man down in that situation like that. For him to be able to maneuver like that in the middle of the field, in the teeth of the defense, stiff arm, stiff arm, my goddamn linebacker, man. But it was a one-sided game all night on it was a one-side of game and something about

Tua, not even Tua. It's not about the Dolphins when it comes to cold weather. Anytime they have to play in weather below 40, we owe for, we always losing. And his days back to damn that, damn to the 80s, the 90s, and even still to this day, it's something about us playing in the cold weather. Yeah, 70s, it's something about us playing in the cold weather. I think Tua coming to this game, he was 0 and 5 or maybe 0 and 4, something to that magnitude when it comes to playing in 40 degree weather or below.

And I would, listen, I was hoping, I was hoping I didn't want to, I didn't want to bet with my heart tonight. So I kind of, I kind of, I threw caution to win to understand. You did the right thing. Yeah, I did. I did. And so, you know what, I'm not even upset. I'm not even upset.

I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed. I'm just disappointed because it's the same thing every single year. It's always been this. It's always been this problem. And it is what it is at this point. This game Sunday is going to be between the sardines and the jack mackerel because both of them stink.

Your dolphins and your bingles. Yes, one sardons, I'll let you pick. Whoever you want to be sardines, the other one will be jack mackerel. Because anybody that's ever had jack mackerel and you know what sardines is, they both stink. Both of your teams stink. The companies, that was awful. I mean, now all of a sudden you get down 20, what, 28 to 3,

and now you want to show life. You want to show life basically the game over. Get your ass on that, get your ass out there for you, get your ass out there for you, get a warm shower, get on the bus and get your ass back to Miami. Because y'all didn't do anything for the first three quarters. And now all of a sudden, y'all, we could have been on the, we could have been here 30 minutes sooner.

Yeah. After with the Dolphins. Yeah, it hurts, it hurts. And I think Tua, I love Tua, but he has a problem. Obviously, he's one of the, one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL when it come to being able to anticipate throws and throwing balls in windows. But he struggles really bad against zone. He struggles real bad against zone.

I'm not sure what the statistics are, but all of his interceptions are basically in zone coverage, you know, not realizing where people are and in knowing, you know, knowing where to place the ball, as far as ball placement is concerned. But when it's man-to-man, he is extremely, extremely accurate and successful. But any time his own, it's always a goddamn interception, man. That interception that he threw to Samuel Jr. Bro, what you thinking? I mean, there's nothing.

First of all, there's nothing to haul him in the plan, so he's going to keep retreating. Yeah. You threw that ball up? You threw it up hoping? Yeah. That's not how you play quarterback. You don't throw it up. Boy, I shall hope he catch it.

I show hope he drop it. I show hope he's up. No. I'm just I'm looking at him like first of all Ocho he doesn't look he does have anticipatory skills and he has to because he doesn't have an arm that can fit it in the tight windows mm-hmm so he has to throw it and that's okay that's fine yeah but here's the thing the ball gets really heavy when you play in cold weather cold weather yeah and so now you got to have some oomph yeah in order to spin it and

fitting it fit it in those windows mm-hmm um look Look, there are some calls. Look, I get it to the letter of the law. Brooks did stand up over Friamuth. I get it. You want to say unsports and lack conduct. But that wasn't 12 men on the field. That man was on the damn sideline.

Yeah, he was. What happened was is that they missed the PI call. So they say, we got to give you something because Rogers was complaining. Everybody was complaining. That man was on the damn sideline. Yeah. Stating the hell of, I thought he was going to get

ready to run into the game. I ain't know he had ran out of the field come out of the game. Right. But I don't know. Look, it looks like, I mean, I think they're trying to trending to keep McDaniel Ocho.

Yes, sir. They got to think, just look. I like, look, I think Darren Waller, he came back and he played really well. He's a big guy who can make catches. Yeah. I was glad he dodged the bullet because he caught one in the zone.

And Samuel Jr. went low on it. He went low. I mean, he went low for a reason. You understand. Darren Wall is 6.6, like, 255, 260. You're going to run it a little last over. So he did, look, and I know it looks nasty because we just saw Zach Ertz get injured on a very similar plane lab fleet on. Exactly same way. Yeah.

But, you know, he's like, hold on, I'm five, whatever I am, not even 200 pounds. He's 6,6, 255. Nah, you're not going to run me over. But honest, forget the physics. Forget the physics of the weight of the weight. listen the rules in general handicapped him if he even wanted to go high even if he wanted to go high you can't because there'll be a flag and it'd be a fine so what he'd have to jump on a trampoline to hit him in his head because he ain't but five six yeah yeah he's small but i'm just saying

most most defenders are all going low they're going low now and taking the knees out because they don't want to get in trouble because of the rules defensive defensive players have been handicapped you know tremendously by by by the NFL and in his rules I think the Steelers are okay, but it's hard for me to take anything away from this game because I don't really think the guppies are really good, I really don't. And especially in this environment.

Now, if it's early in the season, because normally we get a good indication because we know the Dolphins play well at home, okay at home, but they normally play better in warm weather. Yes. You get them in a situation like this. Steelers say it's not my fault. The schedule makes, this is what the schedule makers put it,

They put your ass here in December. Right. In Pittsburgh, it is what it is. But we'll get a better indication. We'll see how Pittsburgh looked against a team that can move the football. Yes. Get up and down the field. They got guys that can spread you out.

Jameson Williams. They got Amund Ra. They got the two-back system with Gibbs and Montgomery. So it's going to be very, very interesting. On a defense that's attacking that can get after you, the question is, because in that building, you're probably going to have to put up some decent amount of points. Yeah. The question is, can the Steelers get to, say, 31, 35 points on the road?

Yeah. Because I give it as good as they are. I don't believe the Steelers defensively. Mm-hmm. I don't think they can slow them down. No. No, I mean, well, if you look at it, if you look at it, they play the Lions next, right? Yes.

If you look at what the Lions did, we'll have been doing all season long. You know, they've been phenomenal. The run game has set up the past. Amon Ra last game had a phenomenal, had a phenomenal game. game. James and Williams had a phenomenal game. Both of them went 100. I think one 164, the other 137. Yeah, I think

for the Steelers to have any kind of success, it's not a, they have the defense that should have been great based on what they have on paper, they got to elevate their level of play. Because I don't see the Steelers as a team offensively that can go out there and score 30, 35. Hell, in a lost

line just lost to the Rams, they scored 37. Yep. You know, but I just, I just don't, the Steelers have to play Steeler defense in order for them to have a chance. Let's say they win the AFC North. If they get to the playoffs, you know, the defense is going to have to be the one

to take them as far as they want to go. It ain't going to be the offense. But the thing is, like you said, the Steelers defense is going to have to keep this game under control. Yeah. Because if they don't, can the Steelers on the road go get 30 plus?

That's what you're asking yourself. You think about it. How many times did the Steelers score 30 all season, huh? But when you look at Detroit, the Ocho, their defense, they're secondary. They don't really got no starters. All their starters are out. Everybody heard. Yeah.

Branch and Joseph. Everybody's gone. Arles. Yeah. Yeah. It's messed up. If can we hold up long enough to get DK and to get gain well and to get some of these guys and matched up in coverage to take advantage of the back end?

Can we hold up? Because if they can, I think there's some plays to be made on the back end. If you can't, well, you're going to have a long, like any other thing, you're going to have a very long night. Long night. But the thing is like that zone blit, that zone blitz that the Steelers like to run is that you get guys that hit creases and they're gone. It's a run.

You know, Armand Ross St. Brown is great. He's great at finding space. Jameson, Air, we know he can take the top off. So they got guys that can explore it a lot of what the Steelers do. The Steelers know they got, look, this is a very important stretch for them. Yeah. Look, they know at the end of the day, they're at the Browns and they get the Ravens at home. Hey, that Ravens game?

Yeah. But that Ravens game, that might be for everything, Ocho. Yeah, the deciding factor, you know, on how that season goes. Whether you're going home or you get, or whether you're grabbing that goddamn garbage bag. Yeah. And I also, Ocho, I think Detroit, this might be there. this might be their Waterloo. This might be their last stand.

Because if they lose, Ocho, they're the good chance. They're not going to make the playoffs. Yeah. You're right. They're not because if they lose, they're not catching Chicago. No.

No. They don't have it. You're already in third behind Green Bay because Green Bay's already beat you twice. Yes. So now you're behind them. Mm-hmm. So you lose.

There's a good chance. You're not going to make the playoffs because you've got to look at what's out west. Look at those guys that's out west. Hey, they, look at the Rams going to win the, look like the Rams of Seattle. Somebody's going to win that division. But look at their record.

They got two other teams that have a better record than you. Mm-hmm. We know there's only one team coming out of the South. We know there's one team coming out of the East. So you got your four divisions and you get three wild cards. Yeah.

Ah. He's looking iffy. Hey. He's looking iffy. So. You got two, I think there's going to be two wild cards, two wild cars that come out of the West, and that means you're going to have to overtake Green Bay

to be the third wild card. Because I think Chicago's going to win that division. Yeah, they're going to win it. Yeah, they definitely, yeah, they definitely, they definitely, they definitely going to win it. So it's going to be interesting. Oh, Joe, when you see this, you see D.K., and he only had, he didn't have a whole lot of opportunity,

but you can see his ability. Yeah. He gets the ball in his hand. He ain't really trying to tackle him in the cold. Hell, you ain't really trying to tackle him in 75 degrees. No. He's a big, he's a big ass man. That's a big boy, boy.

That's a big dude. And most of the time, especially for DBs, he's bigger than most defensive backs. Really, all of them. All defensive backs. Hey, he's about the, he's about the side. He's a linebacker side. He's a linebacker side. He's a linebacker, basically, you know, because if you think about the linebackers during

our time, when we played, they were bigger. They were more stocking because they were, they were, for runs. trying to stop the run game the run that's it man dk had the same side to almost every every every every every um every every every every every every um every every every every every every every every every every backer all of them you got to make a business decision when you get up there you get ready to tackle him and that ate it's that's a big dude man yeah yeah Miami misses the playoff for the second straight year look they're gonna be they got they got they got they got to do some changes look they went for it ohcho and and and you got to give them credit they go for it yeah and you don't get it you don't get it you don't get it. So we got to start selling off assets, Ocho. Yeah. We got, we got a seller. You see that we know they're going to move on. We always thought, we thought Tyreek was going to be a trade, a trade deadline move, but clearly with the injury, but he's not coming back. You see they've already,

they made the move with a Ram, Jaylen, Pittsburgh, playing well for them. John, they're going to be some other moves. You know, you pay to her. You kind of stuck with him at least for another two years. Yeah. got to do something with A. Chan. Yeah. Well, A. Chan can't go nowhere, huh? No, I'm saying? You got to do something with him. You got to pay him. You got to take care of him. He's been one of the few bright spots all season long since Tyreek went down.

He's been that bright spot. Like, if there's one person that people are coming to see and put butts in the seats when we come down here to Hard Rock Stadium, hell, when I go to the goddamn game, like, I understand we have a team. I understand we have a team, but hell, I want to see what they're having to do. I'm going to the game with my kids simply to see young you know i mean everyone else that's out there i mean it's cool but there there's nothing else that brings me any excitement or any joy on that team outside of ain't and you look at jalen waddle waddle is a two he's a compliment a realtor he ain't not a one and so when you got tyreek

that's going to lift coverage yeah now you're going to let him work one-on-one with the second the third best guy you let him find those soft areas okay fine yeah but when you ask him See, I look at a one. You can go other places and stand out. And still be a one. I'm not saying, well, he'll one on, yeah, somebody got to be a one on a team. Yeah, right.

You know, you what I'm saying? And I'm not saying you got to be Chase. I'm not saying you got to be, you know, one of those guys. But I'm saying a one that, you know what? Okay, he can go, he can go somewhere else and he can stand out. Yeah. I look at Walter. I look at Water.

I look at Water. There's a two. Yeah. I mean, you know, also. Me personally, I don't think he's better than George Pickens, but at least... Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Two different completely styles of receiver. But I believe Pick could go somewhere else if his mind is right and be a number one.

One, yeah, absolutely. I think Pickens is one of those players because of his talent, because of his skill set, because of what he can do when he get the ball in his hands. Yeah, he's a one on any goddamn team. Yeah. If used correctly. And I think a player of Jalen Waddle's caliber, if used correctly, he can be at one.

But the fact that he's in an offense that isn't really conducive for what he's able to do, you don't view him as that one. But you know what, Ocho, it's funny because I look at him. He's a speed guy. But they use him more in the slot as a possession guy. Yeah. They don't use him outside as much, Ocho. They don't use him like the Lions use Jameson Williams.

See? Jameson Williams, even if Jameson Williams in the slot, he's getting deep. Or he's getting across the field deep. So just know he's getting deep. Now, occasionally, they'll line up in him to slot, Ocho, and they'll run a quick screen to him. They'll have a Pinesu kickout, one of the guy, and they'll have Armin Ross, you know,

and so you try to get up inside. But for the most part, he's trying to get deep. That's what you should do with a guy that can run four or three. Waddle can run four or three, but they use it more on like, I'm like drags and like little bup. Come on, bro. Let him get out of field. And you know whose fault that is.

I mean, that, that, the onus of that is being able to be creative, put him in position to be able to make those plays and take advantage of him being as fast as he is. And they just don't do that. They don't do it. They definitely have it. So it's going to be interesting. But I think Miami, there are some teams that there are some teams that are going to have to go change it, make some changes, Ocho.

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The name surgeon sets off rumors throughout the social media, Dr. David Choi, I guess a child, child, excuse me, Patrick Holmes underwent surgery tonight to repair ACL. The timing and the surgeon who performed the surgery essentially confirms he also tore his LCL, which makes recovery time more difficult. Because if I'm not mistaken, Ocho, he's the guy that repaired Teddy Bridgewater.

You remember Teddy Bridgewater. In Minnesota, yes, yes. And so this was later confirmed, according to Ian Rappaport, Mahomes also toured his LCL and his left knee. Typical recovery for such an injury is about nine months, meaning Mahomes will miss teams' off-season program and his availability to start the next season is in question.

The 2026 NFL season opener is September the 10th. Now, now this is the thing. They say how much time it takes for people to heal from certain injuries. You know, everybody's body's different. Everybody heals differently. Everybody, depending on how much rehab you do, sometimes people come back faster than others. I think no one, knowing the Holmes, he's one that won't come back until he's maybe close to 100%.

You know, I think the homes at 95% is better than half the goddamn league at a goddamn hundred. So I think, I say, I hear them saying nine months, but knowing him, knowing technology as advanced, his rehab, methods are, and the resources that he has at his disposal, I see him coming back much, much faster than damn nine months. Well, you got to be careful, Ocho, because you know he's a right-handed quarterback and his left is his plant leg. Yes.

It's got to be stable. Yes. He's got, you know, Tom Brady, Tom Brady tore his. and I think he tore his ACL and MCL but that's the plan that's the most important leg your quarterback

your right-handed quarterback your left is the most important they just thinking about that just a thought of it of me not being able to function and having my knee and and just tearing up that it gave me the ick it gives me the ick just thinking about

all the injuries on and a lot of people complain you know Malik neighbors they say all the turf the turf but you look at some of the injuries also that's continuing to happen. That was grass. Michael Parsons, what they play on, huh? They play grass. It's a combination, but mostly it's, they have some synthetic sewn in,

but that's mainly grass. I know I played on it. Oh, Joe, Michael Parsons, Torne ACL, Mahomes, Torne ACL, Nick Bolsa, Torne ACL, Malik Neighbors, Torne, Ciel, Tyreek Hill, Tucker Kraft, Zach Ertz, Marshawn Latimore, on pace for the lowest year for ACL injuries in many years. It's just the names are so gargantuate. You're talking about Patrick Mahon.

You're talking about a pro bowl in Michael Parsley. You're talking about a defensive player the year. And Nick Bolson, we're talking about Malik Neighbors, who was sensational. Ertz, who's been a multiple-time pro-bow player. So there have been 30 ACLs torn so far this season in the NFL. Here's the numbers by season since 2013. Wow. In 2013, Oh, Joe, there were 63.

In 14, there was 45. In 15, there were 50. In 16, they were 49. In 17, 52, 18, 53, 34. In 19, 2019, there were 34. In 2020, there was 42. In 21, there were 57. And 22, 22, there's 51.

23, 43, 24. 24, 38. and 25 with three games well with the playoffs counting so we'll see there's a great chance that that and hope you know but just playing the odds you got three more regular season game and you got the playoffs in the Super Bowl so there's a chance that this number could climb from the 30 which is the lowest since 2613 to an even higher number yeah I think I think it's unfortunate I don't think there's any way to prevent it some of these injuries most of them are not non-contact injury and just them making, making sudden movements, I don't know,

maybe the body's relaxed or maybe, I don't know what it is, I don't know what it is. And just, it's, it sucks because these aren't just, not, not that I'm saying that other players aren't important, but you're, you're, you're, you're polarizing figures, your impact players, the ones that, that put busts in the seats are getting injured. And it sucks, I mean, it, it sucks. And this surgeon also did, uh, you remember Jaylen Smith? Smith, the Notre Dame guy that many thought wasn't going to be able to play again.

Went to the Cowboys? He ended up playing, he ended up playing and making a Pro Bowl. He wasn't the same player that he was because he was about to be a top five pick. He had that kind of explosiveness and suddenness when he was at Notre Dame. Notre Dame. And at the Fiesta Bowl, he tore his knee. The Cowboys took a chance

let him, let him rehab, and he turned out to be a very, very good player for him. For, excuse me, for them. But I don't know. Oh, OCHO, normally you see a lot of ACL tears, and normally women tear their ACLs a lot easier because they don't have the muscle mass and the quads

and the bone density that a male has. So you see them tear, you see them tear ACLs a lot, soccer, basketball, something, you know, soft stuff like that. You see them tear. Women normally tear their ACLs a lot easier than men, but the simple fact they don't have the muscle mass to distribute that.

that force because that's a lot of force. You're talking about a man running 230, 240, 50, 50, 60 pounds. Running stop, turn, jump, cut. And so you gotta be able to have quad muscles, glute muscles and hamstring to be able to stabilize that. Yeah. But it's tough. And because like you said, I think we think it's more,

it's just the names are bigger. Yeah, yeah, I wish I understood and was more knowledgeable about, about, you know, these injuries, why it's happening. Um, I, I, I, I don't, I don't understand it. No, you don't rhyme with a reasonable, Joe. It's, it's hard, it's hard for me to. Yeah, and then non-contact.

Yeah, yeah, yes, it's hard for me to grasp and, and, and quite understand it. But the fact that my injury history, I mean, there really, there really is none. And watching some of these players go down, I just not, I'm not sure if the bodies relax at the wrong time, are you leaning in a certain way, are you step in a certain way? I don't I don't I don't get it yeah I mean look we I've stepped the hyper-expended standing my knee but but I agree's like you already had like your knees you already had a little elasticity right in your knees so and maybe that was a blessing

and a curse right but January very March April May June July August you're gonna have now you understand why he had the surgery immediately. Yeah. Because the clock's ticking. Absolutely. Absolutely. And he's going, hey, guess what, Ocho? Yeah.

They're going to have, he's going to be bending that damn knee tomorrow. He has surgery today. They're going to have him bending. We're trying to get that knee to 120. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And he's going to be, he's going to be, hey, working out twice a day. See, the thing is that you can't look at that as it, like, I think a lot of times in the

chat, you look at it. You hurt your knee. You're going to go to rehab twice. a week he's going to rehab every day and a lot of times he's going twice a day oh yeah absolutely with the best with the best PTs and physios that money can buy so that's why the time gets sped up is that you're looking you're dealing with guys that are going to physical therapy PT five days a week sometimes twice a day they got machines at home because when I broke my collarbone on show I got me a machine I got me a game ready right

I dislocated my elbow. Hey, I had all the machines. I bought me an ice machine for a home, Ocho, that it would make 300 pounds of ice a day. Yeah. I had everything they have. I had dip, I had, I had, I bought a, a cow trough. I couldn't afford to them dip take, damn that.

Yeah. I went to a, I went me to a livestock store, Ocho. Right, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And dumped that ice in there, put me some water there, and get my ass up in there.

Yeah. But I had a game, I still got the game ready machine. Put it for my elbow, for my ankles, for my knees, had to want to scrap to go over my shoulder. Absolutely. Because I was trying to speed the process up. So instead of like, well, I ain't got no ice, I got to wait two in the morning.

Nah, every two and a half hours, I was icing again, don't you? Yeah. And soon as I felt it got warm enough that I could put it back on because I don't want to get frostbite. Right. But, you know, keep putting ice on there and make exacerbate a situation. Right. But that's what I did.

Yeah, a lot of guys do that. I got a steel machine, Ocho. I got me a laser machine. Oh, yeah. God damn, you had a goddamn hospital right at the house. I did. I did, Ocho. Hey, I was like, Greek, what I need.

I got me, I didn't get the high end like they got, hell now. Right, right, right. Once I was healthy, what the hell I was going to do with it? Yeah, right. I kept the game ready, but I let somebody borrow my damn steel machine and they never gave me my name back. I knew you was going to say that. I knew you were going to say that.

Hey, that's one thing. about it. When you loan something out, you better write it down. And, and, and, uh, my laser. I know who got it. You talk about the red, the red laser? Yeah. Yeah, I know who got it, but I ain't going to say nothing. And you don't need, you don't need it no more. I do. I still want it. I pay for it. He ain't paid me for it.

When I see it, my mice lap from him. Yeah, no. I don't listen to the chat y'all don't know what they're talking about what they say women are 2.8 times more likely to turn AC2 to 8 yeah two to eight yeah two to eight times so they're almost so for what I'm first of all Ocho yeah and I get it and I chat I do I do understand because there's a lot of with AI there's a lot of misinformation going on right but I have a lot of friends that are in this profession that I can just pick up the phone and call. Dr. Banffi and Dr. Tiberi and Neil Elitrash and the Stedman-Halkins Clinic. Women are more likely to tear their ACL than a man.

That's not conjecture. That's not speculation. That's not innuendo. That's fact. Now, I know y'all want to trap me. Y'all don't know what you're talking about. Well, listen, if you say, it when you say it and you say it's factual i think for those that in the chat that don't know and

just want to go argue the fact i mean there's statistics to to prove those facts that you're talking about they get mad ocho because they think man ock think he knows everything you remember we's having a conversation about t j watt yeah without knowing anything what did i tell you ocho you say he's something somebody and it's exactly what happened that's how you know i say because 31 year old don't have discomfort lung discomfort but you have a contusion in the game. And if you have a contusion in the game, it's not delayed. Yeah, I have seen guys fall and collapsed their lung.

Right. Because a puncture. Right. They fell on the football or they got hit. But it's normally that night or early that morning. It's not three, four days later. So when they tell me that he had a collapse, that it collapsed lung, they punctured that lung.

Yeah, you know, I didn't know. I thought maybe he got an injection or something. but it would come from dry kneeling you see oh Joe when you talk about me I've had all those things go on that's what really scared me because when I tore my real cartilage they would inject me and I remember thinking like damn dodged it again I still breathed fine because they ask you how you're breathing I'm fine I say man I'm tempted I don't did this three I said I'm done with this right I'm done with this but I'm I'm telling you things I was a professional athlete

guys. Damn of whether I was good or not, I don't been, I don't been a pincushion. Yeah. Ribs, shoulders, ass, ankles. I had it all shot up. Yeah. Hey, I'm confused on something.

Now, when it comes to dry needle, right? Do they insert the needle that far where it can, it can. Yeah, but because you hear the thing, Ocho, you got to get it, you got to get it in there because the thing is, it's like when I got my shoulders, they try to say, okay, give me the exact. back what the point is.

But they got to move it around because they got to get as much medicine in that point. But you got to realize, this is bone. That needle is touching bone. Ah! You think about what's here.

Ocho, you got to realize that's what the ribs are for is to protect vital organs. It ain't a big, it ain't a big leak. It's not. And I'm telling me, I'm trying to tell them that,

well, you think you know everything. No, I don't know everything. I know a little bit about everything. But I know when you're shooting, when you, when you start putting needles in your side, and the lungs are right there, you're at, it's not always, but sometimes things can happen. They explained it to me, Ocho, so eloquently, they say with Shannon, you know, we keep doing this. There's a, there's a chance that you might have problems later on in life. I ain't promised to live later on in life.

Give me that damn shot. you talk about what might happen late on in life I'm talking about right now I worry about late on in life in life hey you're trying to get on that goddamn feel huh was I

why you think I shot up I shot my ankles up in 93 in 93 the last 11 games in the post season I shot my ankle up in 94 I shot my ankle up up. I shot the left one up every single, every single Sunday before the game. And then I ended up

shooting the last eight games. I shot up both of them. God, damn. In Baltimore, I got my knees drained. My last year in Baltimore, Ocho, probably about last seven weeks. Yeah. I was getting both knees drained. I was getting 30, 40 cc pulled off my knees. Before every game. Before the game. Yeah. but my thing was Ocho and I remember having a conversation with Ozzy I said Ozzy as long as I can go out there and play and it can be somewhat yes

like SHRPE on the back of the jury's outdoors I say but what I can't I'm not going to use that as an excuse as I'm hurt and that's why I'm not playing well if I can't be somewhat resemblance of myself yes I got to sit it down I got to trust that you've got people behind me that can go get the job done done right and so that's that's all i'm saying i look i get it and and i have a whole lot of useless information a lot of times

right but i have a lot of useful information also and when i'm talking about things i've been in locker room when you've been around locker room don't you know ideas it's a little different now you know guys they play more video games and they probably joke a little bit more than what we did we had fun we joke but some of the stuff that they joke about now that was never going to fly in the locker room. Not in the locker room I was in. Maybe it is now. But, and you go look at the studies and see why women suffer more ACL tears than men.

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Subscribe to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. To me. Ocho, Anthony Richardson, has been cleared to resume physical activity after fracturing his orbital bone during a pre-game warm-up incident in week six. Meanwhile, Shane Stuyken confirmed that 44-year-old, Phillip Rivers will serve as the team starter next Monday night against the 49ers.

Stuyken also stated that Colts are non-committal about if when Richardson would be brought up, I are. Ocho, you ain't, you got three weeks left in the regular season. Yeah. I mean,

what are you waiting for? They don't, they don't. I think this will over him. Yeah. And I mean, we tried to, we had that conversation. and I told it that day, I'm saying, I'm telling you, as an athlete, the one thing, you know what, gambling is really bad. But if you quit on your team, you take yourself, Ocho, you tap yourself out.

Yeah. As a quarter, Ocho, I had never, and I told, and we talked about, I said, Ocho, I'd never heard of this. I've seen receivers run, go, run goal, catch a ball, go 30, run another goal, and tap themselves out. Yeah. I've never, ever seen or heard of a. quarterback tapping himself and coming out and then he said he was tight but see everybody said oh you old you old school these new generations but you got to understand look what type of coach you got yeah look at and look at what happened on show mm-hmm you remember

his team has had a conversation with him yes huh i tried even before we knew anything You and I was having a conversation when they talked about it after the game. Oh, you overreacted. You don't know. This new keep. Okay. I don't talk about y'all. Y'all know.

Listen, you always know what it is when you've been in that environment based on what you see and what you hear. You can tell exactly what it is. And you knew what was coming because some of the rumblings coming out of that organization, it gets out for a reason, huh? Thank you. It gets out for a reason. You know, they signed Daniel Jones to that one year deal for $14 million that much more than the person that you just took in the first round, the rightness on the wall. It was only a matter of time.

Yeah. Only a matter of time. They didn't do it, they did him a disservice because they didn't have, they said he was a project. Everybody knew he was a project that he wasn't ready to start right away. Everybody knew that. Even, even they took him knowing them. and they started him. Ocho, he's never been more than a 50% completion guy.

It's going to be hard for you to make bones in this league right now, as we currently sit, completing only 50% of your passes. It's hard. Now, once upon a time, in the 80s, 70s and 80s, well, you completed 55% of your passes. Boy, you were Joe Montana. Yeah, you was the real deal. Absolutely.

Now, if you don't complete at least 60, you'll boom. Yeah. And you see guys, Ocho, 60, 65, 66, 68, 70. Now 70, now you enter in godly territory. But when you look at this, you look at some of the things that you were hearing coming out of the locker room, I was like, man,

that ain't good. Everybody's talking about like he, he's the last end, he's the first lead. Not as a quarterback, you can't be that. No, you got to be the last, you got to be the first end and the last to leave. Yeah. Not the last end first to leave.

And, you know, they can, they can see things. we can't see. They know if you're putting into work. And obviously, if you put it in the work on you'll see improvement and the results are going to show up on the field. The results are going to show up Sunday. Yes. And it just it sucks for him because you understand

also the way the NFL goes you don't get many opportunities like that to be the starting quarterback of an NFL team. No. You don't get very many chances. No. Absolutely not, Ocho. But I just wish they didn't do him any

hold on they didn't do him any favors but he didn't do himself any favors with the behavior that he I remember chat y'all remember he said that the NFL is easier than college he said that

oh so I said are you serious yeah I have never I can honestly say I've never ever heard a player in the NFL I heard in basketball because they can't play

those little janky zone defenses they can't play the boxing one you got to straight up. Yeah. And guys that can put the ball on the floor, people say KD's going to be a better NBA player than he was a college player.

Well, damn, he was just the Wooden Award winner. He was the max player. He was the top player in college. What do you mean he's going to be better? And lo and behold, look at Steph. Because now he can handle the ball, put the ball on the floor, get to the rim,

shoot over on top of you. You can run pigs for him. I just, oh, Joe, despite going six and five as a start of last season, Richardson completed less than 50% of his passes and through more interceptions, 12 than it did TD passes. Eight. He's got to take, he's going to have to make his mind up.

Now, they might make it up for him and he'd be somewhere else. But he's got to make a decision. How good do you want to be, son? Yeah. How good do you want to be? Are you willing to put it? in the work and pay the price to be great because all that all the all that stuff that that that four four and that can throw the ball 85 yards when are you going to need to throw the ball 85 yards anyway never never when you're going to be on one knee and throw the ball 50 yards because if you if you're on one knee you're down it don't count anyway so I'm just I'm just being honest with it mocho so he's going to have to make a decision does he want to be good does he you want to be great, what are you willing to do?

See, I think that sometimes I'll show you write down what you want to be. Here is what I want to do. I want to do this, this, and this and this. Okay. Over here, you need to see what you're going to willing to sacrifice. Because a lot of times you want to accomplish this without any sacrifices over here. The greater the goal, the greater the sacrifices, the means a goal. You know, a lot of people don't do that.

They think they can do both at the same time. It would never work like that, ever. And it ain't no. it ain't go it doesn't work like that and he just needs to make his mind up but like I said Ocho you're not careful they'll make their mind up for you

well hold on they've already done that they've already done that so I'm just where do we go from here we don't know just yet until the offseason gets here but I think he's going to get another chance I'm not sure if it'll be another chance to start but if he goes to another team or when he does he needs to make sure he's ready

when that door opens and opportunity presents itself that's your shot to go out there and do, like where we see Jacobi Brissette, you know, doing. I know he's somewhat of a journeyman and been around that, which is why he looks as efficient as he does. But he'll be ready to play.

Because that's what I've got to have, Ocho. You got to be ready to step in. Yeah. Jacobi Berset ain't going to win, no race. But when called upon, he's going to do what he needs to do. He'll keep you afloat until your start gets back. He's going to know where he's supposed to go with the ball.

going to know when he's supposed to go go with the ball he's going to know all the audible he's going to know all the things yeah he's not immensely as far as physical gifted i mean i think he got the knee brace on yeah hey he's he's gonna deal it now oh he gonna spin it he's gonna deal it he gonna i love that about him i love i love that look coach bellichick thought enough of him they took him and when garropalo got hurt before brady came back guess what he won him a game mm-hmm so uh Like I said, he might not be, look, he, he's not, he might, he's not going to win you probably 10, 11 games, but if he's your backup, you feel very good. If something were to happen to your starter, yeah, until your starter is able to get back, you feel very confident that Jacoby Brissette can, can hold a fort down.

And, but I think, uh, Anthony Richardson, bro, you got to make a decision, man. You got to make a decision. You're the fourth picking entire draft. You're immensely talented, but talented won't cut it. you want a you got to prove this is a prove it league here yeah potential i hope you know potential is oh cho potential mean you ain't done is yet yeah ain't nobody with potential has done anything no that's why they say you got potential mm-hmm you got to show it and all that that big frames to running to 4 4 at 245 and throwing the ball to the heavens yeah

That don't mean nothing. That don't mean none. Not in that position. Listen, it's a good thing to have. But when it's time to play, and then bullets flying for real, 11 v. 11, it's a mind game out of the,

it's a mental game. It ain't nothing but a chess match. That's all it is. Look at Phillip Rivers. Philip Rivers probably couldn't break a plate glass winter with a brick. But he got 65,000 yards. He got four over 400 touchdowns.

Yes, sir. so all that all that little stuff on he got the big art that's fine and good bro you're in a dome I mean oh cho think about it all this home game and a dome Houston dome Jacksonville the worst you're going to get in Jacksonville is rain yes and get Tennessee you catch Tennessee earning the year you straight you catch him this time a year it might be a little cold a little cold a little bit by 30 about 30 he just he just got

he just got to make his mind up we can't want something more for himself than he that he wants it also Jane Daniels have been shut down for the remaining of this year according to head coach DQ which leads to the question Zach Taylor today if the bingler should sit

chronically injured Joe Burrow for the rest of the season where Jack Zach Taylor said there's zero consideration to sit Joe Burrow down for the final three games the media asked why Taylor said, because we want to win. Yeah, I mean, listen, honestly, and a call like that,

it wouldn't even come from Zach Taylor. It wouldn't even come from up above. Joe Burrow ain't sitting down. Joe, Joe, ain't sent down. He's not wired like that, oh, Joe. And he's not wired like that. And he's already made his message clear with what he said last week in the media

about if it's not fun, you know, he wants to continue to have fun doing this. That's nothing but a message to management, unc. we need to make the necessary movements in the off season and make this team competent so we're able to compete

against everyone else we am not going to be here and y'all are for the sitting and waste my career yep the message is loud and clear now he didn't say it directly but if you understand and able to read between the goddamn lines you know what he's trying to say yes you don't have to come out and say it directly

losing words on you man it does It does. Anybody say, oh, man, I just make, no, you can't, not, not if you're wired properly. Right. Losing bothers you. If you understood what it takes for a guy like Joe Burrow to be Joe Burrell, the study preparation that he has to endure, the denying of a personal relationship. And even if you get involved in a relationship, Ocho, she is going to have to understand.

Yeah. Like when it comes to recite. and stuff. Mm-hmm. The majority time, mama, you got, hey, you want a solo journey. Yeah, absolutely. And you know what else is frustrating too? You got to think about Jamar Chase, right?

Yeah. You think about Joe Burrow. You look at them playing football all their life. Yeah. Their background and where they come from. They've wanted everything they've done. They've won everywhere they've been. Success.

So now you come, you come here and you want to, and you want to continue that same tradition of always winning everywhere you win so obviously to be able to do that it comes it's more than just me now the winning the culture now that starts all the way at the top yes that starts all the way at the top and it trickles its way goddamn down and when they see things aren't going in the direction in which they're used to this is what you get with that message you saw last week all right now come on now tighten it up Carson Palmer, frustrated, got to a point. You know what?

I can't do this more. I'd rather retire. Y'all keep your money. I'd rather retire than continue going in this direction. And now it's the same message again, not as loud as Carson's was. But like, come on now. Let's get it together. I just, you know, and the more you put into something, the more it hurts.

Yes. It's just like anything. And, Ocho, we use relationship. Just imagine. six, seven, eight, nine, ten, fifteen, twenty years into a relationship, a marriage. Yes. And it unravels. It hurts.

Yeah. Because you spent 10, 15, 20 years. And when it doesn't go to distance, yeah, it hurts. When you put the amount of time that these top quarterbacks put into it or the quarterbacks put into it, all that meeting prep at the facility, all the, all the, the, the tape that you watch at home, you're going back over and over. and over and over and you on the phone with the coach uh coach i saw this this uh eight games ago they ran this coverage against this formation you think we might see it again make a note of it

we'll discuss it tomorrow when you put that kind of time in on joe and after you denied right so many people i can't go trick-a-treating i can't go to pta right can't do this i can't do that yeah hey listen you dedicate your life that's part of the sacrifice you dedicate your life to football you dedicate your life to that franchise and when you put the time and the work and the hours like would you say prepare i don't think people understand especially for the quarterback it's a whole different their preparation oh man listen man it's different it's different because i know what i know i know i know what i put into it oh yeah i could i can and i ain't know nearly it what the hell. I just needed to know what I needed to know.

Right. And what the other guys need to know. So I can tell them dumb dumbs when they came to the other time of what I got. Right, right. Right. Right. Right. But, you know, John got to set the protection.

He got to know, you know what I'm saying? He has to know, okay, this coverage, this going to be this coverage. Right. Uh-oh, damn, uh-uh, no, nope. I see, man, stop job bouncing around. You ain't doing that. You're going to drop to the damn flat. You ain't coming.

All that bouncing faking. Yeah. All you do it is making yourself tired. And so that's, so I understand, I understand Joe. And, and, and, he wants to win. Yeah, yeah. And, but you know why? Because he got a taste of winning.

Yeah. You got a taste of going to the Super Bowl. Mm-hmm. It, it's just, it's just like an animal. It bites you and it gets that taste of blood. Yeah. It's hard. Yeah.

It's hard to untrain that. Yeah. Yeah. You got to have to get rid of it. Absolutely, absolutely. Hold on, hold on. Let me use the bathroom real quick. While Ocho is away, we'll read this.

Speaking with the athletics, Mike Sando, a rival NFL executive said, they don't pitch a Burrow abruptly retiring. Burrow doesn't strike me as luck where he's going to disappear and go bird watching or serve on the board if he does not play football, they said. That said, Burrow comments.

comments definitely caught my attention, and this is an organization, I trust the least to figure it out. The executive also speculated on how this could turn sour quickly if it becomes a standoff between Burrell and the Bengals Mike Brown. Brown is not letting Joe Burrell walk out the door, they said. That is what makes Burroughs comment so interesting. How ugly does this get? Because this is the one franchise that doesn't care about all about looking ugly, especially after getting their new stadium deal. Are they building a new stadium? Or are they like adding on or are they refurbishing?

Because, oh, so y'all not getting a Super Bowl. So I don't give a damn what y'all do. What? We what? Are y'all getting a new stadium or y'all refurbishing that stadium? Oh, I'm not sure. I heard about that. I'm not sure.

I think if anything, I think we'll add on. We'll add on to PayCorps Stadium. Okay, they spend $120, no, they spend $120 million of tax bills dollars. Cheap as Joe, Mike Brown, ain't coming out of his pocket. Yeah, hey, you know what? Hey, I have a question.

Yes. How much would it cost to me to have my name, like Chad Johnson Stadium? So we changed the pay court. How do I be, how do I put my name? It's going to cost you at least $10 million a year. And they're going to want, and they're going to want you to do at least a 10-year deal.

Hold on. Wait a minute. Hold on. You mean to tell me it could actually be Chad Johnson Stadium? Yeah. I'm sure it could be. Yeah.

Hey. Hey, uh, well, hey, that'd be live. What? $470 million upgrade $350 from taxpayers, $350 from taxpayers, $350 from $350 from Mike Brown and family. Hey, and I think when they do those upgrades, Unk, I need to change the name. I, hey, I think, you know,

God, I'm a manifest this to bless me with some type of huge bulk of revenue from from endeavors that I have going on and I'm going to change the name. It's going to be Chad Johnson Stadium. I mean, you'd have to look. I mean, AT&T probably plays Jerry what, 20 million for that? Oh, they pay Jerry? Oh, they pay Jerry? Yeah, he on the team.

Oh, shoot. You think that money goes. But I'm saying he used that money, obviously, to do other things, you know, player's salary. Ford Field, the Ford's own it. Right. So they got to pay nothing. But it just all depends on where, but if you notice, for the longest time, mile high was mile high, but now it's called something at mile high.

Right. The Arrowhead is called something at Arrowhead. You see what they, it's just too much money to pass. Right. Yeah. CRIP.com is playing the Lakers 700 million over 20 years. So how much is that? That's about $35 million a year.

Ooh. 625, so that's 30 a year. So far played 625 over 20 years. That's 30 a year. You sure you want to put your name on something? I think you could do a better use of that money. But you just said, hey, that's why I said a huge truck. Let's say I win a lotto or something.

I think the lotto was $1.1 billion. What if, what if I won? I didn't play. I'm just saying, what if I had won that? Like, that's an investment. You can't win if you don't play. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

That's an investment. That's a good investment though, huh? No, that's bad. No, hell no. Just so, hold on, Ocho, what are you selling? Those people, they sell things, AT&T. That's a telecom. Ford, they sell cards.

some people have remember Cleveland was progressive they sell insurance what are you selling ain't nothing you got a cigar you got you got a clothing life I mean what are you selling

that you want people to go out there and see it my bangles nah you come out better put your name on the stadium at FAMU hey I like that

um Spotify just bought FC Barcelona Stadium. 310 million over four years. Woo. But Spotify, we know what Spotify is. That's a huge entity on. Right. So unless you advertise it to sell something, right.

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