Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Sha'Carri & USA win gold + Bobby Finke interview

Episode Date: August 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are joined by 1500-meter freestyle world record holder and Olympic Champion Bobby Finke to discuss his historic win at the 2024 Paris Olympics! Also, Unc & Ocho react to the USA women winning gold in the 4x100 meter relay, the USA men getting disqualified, and Rai Benjamin winning the 400-meter hurdles, and more!03:40 - Show Starts05:09 - USA Women cruise to Gold medal game10:36 - USA wins gold 4x10019:30 - US Mens 4x100 DQ’d31:05 - Rai Benjamin wins Gold in 400m hurdles37:12 - World Athletic hints at raising womens hurdles56:10 - Bobby Finke Intv(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the teams will face the exact same team the The men face France, and the women will also face France. After moving Jackie Young into the starting lineup in the quarterfinals against Nigeria, Reeve has stuck with that same starting five. Young, Wilson Stewart, Nafisha Collier, and Chelsea Gray. And against Australia, Young, for the third time in as many games, provided a huge spark for the offense. Team USA, she had 14 points, five assists, and she was very good defensively on the perimeter.

Ocho, look, I don't think anybody's surprised that the women are here. They really expected to be here. They've kind of cruised through this. We have the women. Look, we have the best women. You got to, I mean, there is no international woman that's gonna track the top five maybe not even the top 10 that's not the same on the men's side you know they have nicola yokich you know they have yannis antetokounmpo you know they have uh what's his name well shea from canada and they have luca so you know you have four guys right there that's

probably anybody that's polling is going to be in in the top 10 players and so that's the luxury that the men have that the women's not up against that's not to take anything away from the women you still got to win the game and as we saw yesterday i think the serbs only have two guys that's playing professionally in the nba and they the U.S. who all their players are currently playing in the NBA. All of you gave them more than they can handle. But congratulations to the women. I don't know. How much of this game did you watch? A little bit of it. They dominated. They dominate the entirety of the game. A little bit of it.

They dominated. They dominated the entirety of the game. They looked really good. Obviously, like you say, they've been on somewhat of a cruel control because there hasn't been anybody to challenge them yet. They were going to win gold. That's what we said before the Olympics even started, that nobody was going to challenge them unless they were just shooting crazy from the field. Obviously, from the three, they give them a game. crazy from the field, obviously from the three to give them a game. And I said myself, the only way that happens, if they happen to run into competition that shoots efficient from the field,

then the ladies will probably step up their play and win the game anyway. But right now, you know, as far as I'm concerned, they're going to be France. They're going to get goal and bring it on back. When you look at a situation, they shot 50% from the floor. They shot 41% from the floor. They shot 41% from the three. They shot 91% from the free throw line. You had 31 assists. You had turnovers.

I'm sure Coach Reed won't like that turnover, but look, at one point the game was what, 80-58? They were winning. You look at the numbers, let you know there was really no struggle. Breonna Stewart only played 23 minutes. Asia played 20 minutes. Jackie Young played 20 minutes. Chelsea Gray played 19.

Collier played 24. And then even the reserves got in and played big minutes. The only one that didn't play huge minutes was probably DT and Jewel Lloyd. But Kalia Cooper played 20 minutes. Kelsey Plum played 11 minutes. Inescu played 10. BG played 19. And Alyssa Thomas played 16. So there was

really, there was really no doubt. You look at the rebounding, Ocho out-rebounded them 46 to 34. Had 10 steals, had five blocks. It's almost unfair statistically

in almost every category, regardless of who they're playing even when they're not shooting well still it's like nobody has a chance and it's probably going to be like it's probably going to be like this in 2028 it's going to probably

be like this I mean Asia Wilson will be back you know you're probably going to have another big rebound on the glass in Greece. And you could also probably have a Caitlin Clark. A lot of these a lot of these young ladies will be back in 28. That's that's in four years. Asia can't be no more than 27.

How old is Asia? Twenty seven. Twenty eight. So if DT if DT play DT is like 40, 41? 28? Yeah. Stewie will be back. Yeah, the big guns will be back. And now you're going to, and a lot of these younger have gotten experience

playing. You see Karya, she has experience. Jackie Young, Alyssa Thomas. BG's probably, how old is BG? BG probably what? 32, 33? I don't know if she'll be back I mean she won't tell me you got you got height I know I know China got that one one young

lady she's 17 she's too young to compete she's 73 Ocho right yeah yeah yeah listen go ahead wouldn't make no difference wouldn't make no difference 738393 we coming home true true um but congratulations to the

women um eight straight final um i think they've won like 60 games straight in an olympic competition um nobody's surprised by that we have the best players and they continuously show us that every time they go into meaningful competition and uh maybe losing the WNBA All-Star Survey of the Wake Up Call. Because they've been whipping hell out of everybody since. So congratulations to the women. Great job. Let's finish the task now. Ocho, the U.S. women won gold in the four-by-one.

Sha'Carri Richardson pulls away. In style. In style. Pulled away in the anchor leg. The four by one, she didn't have to worry about getting out of the block quickly. Despite the eliteness of the American sprinters, Melissa Jefferson, Tanisha Terry, T.T. Terry, Hannah Gaby,

she needed to come from behind. Yeah. We always, men and women, we'll address the men in a minute, Ocho, we always have the most horsepower. But the problem is it doesn't matter how much horsepower you have if the driver can't drive the car. You talk to me now.

It took, it took, Sha'Carri did what Sha'Carri was supposed to do. Track down everybody. She got the baton in fourth, and as long as it was close, she's coming to get you. Because it didn't matter who they had. I know they had the Great Britain team. They had and fourth, and as long as it was close, he's coming to get you. Because it didn't matter who they had. I know they had the Great Britain team. They had

Danelle Nita on the anchor leg. I wasn't really concerned about anybody else. And they kind of didn't have the best handoff between, but I knew Germany or anybody else, they didn't stand a chance. And with no Jamaicans, the Jamaican team in the field, nah it was

a watch but she was in fourth with 90 meters to go and then when she got the baton, hey she like you thought you had that huh? Listen, finish in style, now I'm not sure if she was looking at her competitors or if she was looking at that camera

to the far right of her to let people know, you know what time it is you think so? girl stop playing oh okay okay okay it looked like she looked right at the camera you know that camera that's right along with them right that's why i said i thought she looked at the camera looking at the camera like oh you thought yeah okay that was though that's that's how you finish racing style listen some people won't like it i enjoy it i enjoy that make making it fun making it exciting that is entertainment the entertainment value that track and field needs because the exposure

you know we talk about grand holloway grand holloway was talking about some of the you know wanting that the commercials and the ads and then the shoe deals see stuff like that is why she has the makeup the makeup stuff the nike commercials like you you got to add that dynamic and that personality to you to your to your repertoire and it will come it's just hard ocho when your two big meets one happen once every four years and the other half but you got two of those and you got two worlds so in four year span you really got three big events yeah you got the two worlds and you got the olympics and so it's kind of it's kind of hard right you could plant though you got to you could plant those seeds now though you could plant those seeds now with all the

tournaments that you do have throughout the season. They don't show them seeds. Just imagine in the regular season, if in 16 games, you only got a chance to see Patrick Mahomes eight times or you only got a chance to see Joe Burrow because all these meets, everybody's not showing up. No matter the Diamond League. So basically, they're only showing up for the world in the Olympics. The big meets, they don't show up. So what am I? So how. So how do I sell that? How do I convince the people to get behind it when Noah Lyles is not showing up? They're not going overseas.

It's just too much. And I'm going overseas for what, Ocho? For 15 grand? Oh, they don't pay good. No. Oh, shit. No. Damn. So, shit. No. Damn.

So it's just hard. I mean, it's sad. I mean, I think people in the chat, I think we love it. We love track and field. I think people get behind it, and maybe they just get behind it because it's once every quarter event. Right. I like it.

The Americans have now won three of the last four Olympics in the one lap. They lost Tokyo, but since then we've burned it up. Our women, very proud of them. Gabby won the gold in the 200. Sha'Carri

and Melissa Jefferson got, you know, what did they get? They got silver and bronze. We got silver and bronze, right? We got silver and bronze in the 100 meters. We won gold in the 4x4. So the women should be very, very proud. Sid did what Sid did. The hurdles, another world record.

I don't think we've disappointed. I think the women have done very very well um yeah we still got three women in the hurdle finals and and one of our ladies have the fastest time so if we should we should at least get on the podium wouldn't be surprised that we snuck up there and got the goal but camacho quinn is not to be messed with she's the reigning olympic champ yeah um but i like where we've i like kind of how we position ourselves we still have the four by four men and women go ahead okay you say we still have hurdles left what hurdle event do we have left the women 100 meter okay okay when is it tomorrow okay okay And we still got the four by four women.

We still got the four by four men. Right. So we got it. We got a, we got a guy in 800 meter. Uh, I think Bryce Hopple. Is it Bryce Hopple or Hobbs Kessler?

I did both. I think only one. I think Bryce Hopple made it. I don't think Kessler. Okay. Only one, only one of our guys made it. I know that.

So, but I'm, I'm excited. I'm very, very happy. We're over 100 medals total. I think we're tied right now. And we still got men's and women's basketball. We still got the four-by-four.

We got both of those. So I like kind of like, and we got the hurdle events left. So we still have an opportunity. Obviously, nobody's going to catch us for the most total medals but I think at the end of the day the Americans want to end up on top with the most gold as well as total medals so uh that's going um um really well uh congratulations to the women that's doing very good uh we run a silver oh we got silver and bronze and what you call you call them? Ochoa the 200 too. Brittany Brown. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got gold bronze

and then we got silver bronze, right? In the 100 meters? Yeah. The women showed up. The women showed up. They did. They definitely did. Man, it's we still have three athletes

that I've mentioned. Masai Russell, Alicia Johnson, and Grace Stark. So we got three women. I'm expecting at least one of them to get on the podium. Yeah, you know Masai over there, she run with my daughter. She at Kentucky with her. Yeah, Masai

over there with Mo. But the Jamaicansicans they didn't qualify they did, they didn't have a team but when you lose Shelly Ann Frazier you lose Elaine Thompson-Hara you lose Sharika Jackson I think Tia Clayton

was the only one they didn't have nearly enough it looks like Shelly Ann, this was her last Olympics. Elaine Thompson-Heron, her body, she's starting to get a little older. Her body's starting to break down. Sharika, we'll see how that pans out in the world next year in 25. But the thing that the Jamaicans do, and they've talked about it, they got a pipeline.

When you go to the, what is that, the Penn Relays, and you look at those high schoolers, the Jamaican teams, they went to 4x4, they went it all the time. So they got young runners that's coming up, and it's a pride thing for them. It means a lot to them. Oh, yeah. It means a lot.

So it's kind of like, I guess they treat it like when you go to Duke or you play the North Carolina, how much it means to pride to say, I'm a Duke blue devil. And you have that bond forever. You look at all the great runners. Now the women's had a longer kind of a longer history than the men,

but they've had some solid men as well. But when you look at the women, it goes back to Merlene Otte and Julian Kirkbrook. They've had a run here, Ocho, last 40 years. The women have been very, very good at running. Merlene Otte, normally, she's always around on that podium.

Be it the 100 or the 200, she was always there. I mean, she was running fast times at 40. She was an anomaly and then the men when both he just they had an unbelievable run they had for a country as small as Jamaica they had about as good as run in sprinting as we've ever seen as anybody yeah as anybody and we've ever seen now you know the Americans we you know we've won I think we've ever seen. As anybody. Yeah, as anybody. And we've ever seen. Now, you know, the Americans,

we've won, I think we've won like, we've won the 4x4 and the 4x1 and the men like 16, 17 times. We just can't get the stick around.

We've normally, with since the Jamaicans, now you take the Jamaicans out of the mix, but we've always had the most horsepower. But from running out of the zone

to dropping the baton it's embarrassing what what what is that i mean you got to think about it now when i think about it since 1995 the u.s we've suffered damn near about 11 baton areas resulting in disqualifications including two years ago at our world championship what is it about us and not being able to pass the baton? What I didn't understand. Like you practice it over and over and over and over. And me thinking, even though I'm not a track runner, I envision that the steps, hearing and listening,

stick, knowing when to go, when a person hits a certain mark, like you play that over and over, you practice it over and over and over, just like football. Just like football. You hear that play come in, you already envisioned it.

You practiced it all week. Practice it in your head. So I'm not sure, but we constantly, consistently mess up over and over and over. I don't understand what it is or what the issue may be. The nerves can't be that bad, though.

Oh, Joe. You had a situation. Christian Coleman always leads off. He's probably the greatest starter. And, you know, you look at him, Mo Green, and Justin Gatlin. But I would say Christian Coleman is the greatest starter

in American sprint history. He's going to lead it off. Good. We good there. Fred Curley. Normally runs second leg. When they run the world championship last year Fred was on second leg okay the only thing that

got left out was Noah Lyles so why did you change the whole lineup you left Coleman at first and then you move somebody then you put Kenny Manerick at the second leg why why not keep why not at least get the baton let's have a chance

right Christian Coleman and Frank Curley they work together Christian Coleman Frank Curley I think if I'm not mistaken they had curtain uh uh Lindsay put Lindsay in there we we we we keep messing it up

we keep thinking oh we got the most horsepower all we got to do is get it around we can't get it around if ain't nobody on the steering wheel we can't get it around it doesn't matter how fast I don't care if you got 9-2 9-3, 9-4, 9-5 guess what the baton's on the ground

I don't know honestly I don't know what Kenny Benerick was thinking. He left so quick. Christian Coleman wasn't even close. Ain't no way he said that he left when Christian Coleman's foot hit his mark. There's no possible way that happened. None. You see how far he went?

And Coleman's like, well, damn, bro. What you want me to do? You think he misjudged it as far as the speed coming in? Understanding, knowing, knowing how fast Christian Coleman is, especially coming in. I'm not sure if they slow down, but I know there's a mark on the track. I know there's a mark that they watch, that they practice. And when Christian Coleman hits that mark, then you go. You have to. I'm not sure.

And maybe he, maybe he missed, miss, miss, miss read it. Miss. I don't, I don't,

I have no idea, but you can't make that kind of mistake like that. Because if that baton goes off, we win the four by one easy. We all, with the exception of the Jamaicans, we were always, I mean,

that's been our problem. The only, it's not like somebody's outrun us. Our handoffs have always, we were always, I mean, that's been our problem. It's not like somebody's outrun us. Our handoffs have always, you know, we've bobbled the handoffs, and we've been out of the lane, or we've been out of the zone. That's been our problem. When you look at it, yeah, I mean, the Jamaicans have had a run from 08 to 16. Okay, we get that.

But prior to that, shouldn't nobody have ever. I mean, we finished getting first, and we getting gold and silver in the 100. And we got a guy that finished fourth in the 100. So we got the gold, the silver, and a guy that barely missed the podium. Hell, you should be able to run a leg and we still at least get the silver. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm looking, and I knew it immediately.

I said, Kenny, where are you going? Yeah. Ocho, you set the mark. You know the guy's coming in. That's why you set the mark accordingly. You cannot leave before he touches that mark. Do you think they put Kenny in and Kenny hadn't even practiced a four by one with them he was in the pool to mess up like that the thing oh joe once you once you make the u.s team and the 100 meters you're there you're gonna

be in the pool because you've run 100 before see you have to run and see that's why you know there's like what no one wants to be on the four by four no i hadn't run any open 400s so you don't get to say well i want to be on the thing and you haven't run okay kenny has run 100 meters he's qualified he qualified for the olympics in the 100 meters so he's automatically in the pool well you in the pool but if you haven't practiced it previously before he got there he's practiced okay now this might be the first time right because i don't remember him running prior to this year i don't remember i don't remember kenny benerick now i could be wrong and if i'm wrong and i'm speaking out of turn i apologize but i don't remember him running any 100 meters. So, I just, it's just, it's just embarrassing. It's embarrassing

that you're watching teams that you know you're better than Canada. We're better than Great Britain. All these South Africa. Even Japan, China. Really? Yeah. Really?

Yeah. All because we can't get the exchange down. It's embarrassing. Kudos to those teams that were able to get the baton around. You know, those teams, they practiced the batons. And Carl Lewis, he was furious. Oh, yeah, he hot. He was furious.

Yeah, I saw his tweets. He hot. He said, it's time to blow up the system. This continues to be completely unacceptable. It is clear that everyone at U.S. track and field is more concerned with relationships than winning. No athlete should step on the track and run another relay until this program is changed from top to bottom. run another relay until this program is changed from top to bottom. The Americans have not won a medal in the four by one since 2004, when Sean Crawford,

Justin Gatlin, Colby Miller, and Maurice Green won silver in Athens. And they struggled with the baton too. That's why they got silver. Yeah. Damn. Because if you think about it in 2004,

Justin Gatlin won gold I think Mo Green won silver Sean Crawford won the two or one of the gold in the 200 meters so let that sink in and we got silver with that yeah I don't even know if Canada had anybody there I think

did DeGrasse make the finals in the 100 meters? I know he made it in 200 meters, but he wasn't close to the podium. Yeah, I'm not sure. Think about that, Ochoa. You got guys that didn't. They're winning medals. If the Jamaicans beat you, like when Jamaica beat us, what you going to say?

They got the gold medalists, they got the silver medalists, and they got one of the three fastest men that's ever run 100 meters in the soccer pile. Nestor Carter's run nine, seven, eight. So I got a I can't even complain if the Jamaicans beat you. But when you got teams beating you and they don't got anybody in the 100 meter finals or they don't have they have one guy that might be in the finals, but don't podium. How do you beat the team? that got two guys on the podium, one guy winning the gold in the 200 meters?

Fred Curley is a world champ in 100 meters. He's won silver and bronze. Christian Coleman has won the world championship in the 100 meters. And we can't. That's crazy. What does Carl Lewis mean by blow everything up he's saying y'all concerned about relationships y'all don't want to put

the best place y'all just want to keep the relationship with the coaches and everything coping steady and it's not it's actually embarrassing it really is embarrassing that Ocho we haven't meddled in 20 years hmm really is embarrassing that Ocho, we haven't meddled in

20 years. In 20. And the 4x1 has been 20? 20. Jesus. It's embarrassing. And Carl is rightfully so because Carl has one run on the anchor you know he hey you just know hey just get it close all you just get it close call and do the

rest yeah don't do the rest don't even worry about anything else and and they've had you know whether it was dennis mitchell and john drummond and Sam Grady, they had Ron Bryant. I mean, it didn't matter. Just keep it close. Right. This is embarrassing. This is embarrassing. US had one goal since 2000 when they had John Drummond bernard williams brian lewis and uh

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But he worked on it. I couldn't understand it. And, you know, Ryan and I, we text back and forth in the DM. But I remember talking to my brother. I said, Spike, I can't understand it. You're talking about a guy that's a sub 10 second flat 100 meter guy. You're talking about a guy that's a sub 20 200 meter guy. And you're talking about a guy that's a low, low 44 in the 400 meters.

I don't understand. But for the first time, he was in front yeah and warhol like to take it at warhol like to take the pace out he likes to go out hard he says i'm gonna catch him if you can you remember that movie leonardo dicaprio catch me yeah that was a good one i'm gonna get out and i'm gonna make you catch me catch me yeah As I'm watching this race, when they got to the top of the band and he hadn't caught him. And I know, I know a ride was sitting on something.

Yeah. Go back and look at like hurdle. It might've been hurdle seven. Where he stumbled a little bit. Not, not, not Warhol. You didn't see what Warhol,

where he stumbled a little bit. When he ran 45-94, did he stumble? When he run those three world championships, did he stumble? What would me and MJ say? They made Kashane Thompson run

100 meters and not let him run 80. Rod put him under the gun and says, okay, now catch me. Now you got to get me. Yeah. Now you got to be perfect. Instead of me being perfect to catch you, you be perfect to catch me.

Yeah. It's the three, two hurdles before the last when Warhol went over the hurdle and he didn't, he cleared it clean, but when he came down, he was off balance. He lost his balance a little bit I said yeah it's a wrap because you're not going to be able you can't recover you're not going to be able to recover

and you got the four of the fastest four of the four fastest 400 meter hurlers ever you have Warren Holm who's the world record holder, Rye is the American record holder, you got Dos Santos and you had Aberdeen Samba

from Cutter. They were saying Cutter at one point in time is Qatar. Let's go with Qatar. I told you. So you had the four fastest men that's ever been over 10 barriers around the track.

Right. I know Ryan's extremely happy he texts me talking about y'all need to get at me nephew we got hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on now now now when rob when he come back to the states now he gonna have to earn that now so i done had to hop over plenty of obstacles in life so them hurdles ain't gonna be nothing now we get out there we can shorten it we can go we can go 400 we can go 200 we just just put So, I done had to hop over plenty of obstacles in life, so them hurdles ain't going to be nothing. Now, we get out there, we can shorten it, we can go 400, we can go 200.

We just put them hurdles out there. Now, if you could beat me- Well, I'm going to probably put my money, well, I'll tell you what, I'm going to put all the money that I lost, I'm going to put it on Ry to get it back because he's in condition, he's in prime shape and you hadn't run like that in a very long time. So, I would take my chance and we'll ride. See? See?

Now you sound like my teachers in high school never believing in me. Nobody ever believed in me. No. But see, I know where you started from. I know where he's at. Right. So if you'd have told your teachers, oh, I could go out, I could go out and run such and such right now.

What you think he would have said? Probably the same thing. See? It's the thing. You don't get to see me run. So that's why you're going to be surprised when I beat him. But OK, we on to the next one. Oh, no, no, no. We good.

I mean, he's been unbelievable. I can't wait for the world to come up. I mean, the world is a year away. Where the world's going to be at? Are they going to be in Budapest? No, I think they're going to be in Chinaapest or they gonna be no I think they're gonna be in Japan they're gonna be in China they're gonna be in China Japan I think there's some there in the Asian market 2025 worlds

Tokyo Tokyo man we we go let me go on do nightcap in Tokyo then man I'm just I'm I'm planning to. I'm going to throw it out there now. Oh, you're planning to see? Yeah, somebody's going to see this. Somebody that's a part of the Track Federation.

You know what? We want you all to come out. Do nightcap from Tokyo. I would love to. Give us an opportunity to talk to the athletes. Obviously, they're going to have media obligations. Normally, NBC covers the world and and and i understand um they have their obligations but after they get that hey stop by

give us like five or six minutes boom yeah it is yeah nbc so uh it was great congratulations rock congratulations we swept it. It's not been very often that we won both men's and women's 400 meters. We know we got that historic race from Sid, but this lived up to the billing. Going back and forth,

but Ry has been in prime shape. He's been in tip-top peak condition. Actually, he just tied his world record time, his world leading time. He ran 46.46. That was the fastest time in the world coming in. He hit that mark right on the head again, and it was enough to stand up. So congratulations to Rye Benjamin and the Americans

that we've been doing really, really well. I've been proud of our team, the way especially on the track, Ocho. We've been great. We've been great. Beautiful. Beautiful. Outside of a few hookups. Yeah. We're athletic president, hence that raising women's hurdles height after Sydney's

sixth time breaking the record. Hold on. Whoa. You see? Hold on. She's broken the Sydney six times breaking the record. Hold on. Whoa. You see? Hold on. She's broken the record six times. What y'all do with that pole vault record? Mondo DePlantis. He keep breaking the world record nine times. You see? You see what they do, Ocho? You see?

Yeah, definitely. Do anything. Do anything to make sure to put us at a disadvantage. Matter of fact, let them raise the hurdles. You know what she's going to come back and do? You know what she's going to come back and do? Adjust, adapt, and break it again. She's going to adjust, adapt, and break it again. Ocho, you do realize if you raise those hurdles, that world record that she set will be there forever.

You do understand that, right? Yeah, most definitely. I just want people to understand they they understand yeah no they don't i don't think they do because they think they'll be hurt and see it i'm not so sure it can go into effect now they might put it in effect but i believe michael johnson believes and a lot of other people believe that after the world's that will be sydney's last 400 meter race in 400 hurdle race anyway she's dropping down to the single lap she's been she's wants to trace chase madarina coates 47 60 only two congratulations to paulino uh uh the dominican runner she ran uh what she run 48 17

which is the fourth fastest time ever run it's an an Olympic record. She broke Marie-José's record of 48.25 in the Olympics. Only two women have ever gone up on the 48. People don't really understand that. Two women ran sub-48 on a one lap.

That's crazy. Now, just imagine this, right? Just picture this. Now, look at what sid is able to run yeah when there's hurdles in the 400 yeah now imagine what sid's time would be if you remove those hurdles and she's just running on free will and spirit based on training well she's five tenths off the american record as it is she's run 48 75 she's dabbled in the 200 meters she's run 2207 which is the eighth and ninth fastest time this year she's had uh proud prior to today she had like the second or third fastest time now paulino ran 40 ran 48 48, 17. Nasser ran, what, 48, 56.

And then even the Polish runner, she went sub 49. She ran 48, 99 to get the bronze. That was the fastest 400-meter, women's 400-meter in their history. Three women went sub 49. That's crazy. It's the same thing thing they did that with the javelin a guy threw the javelin he threw it farther than a football field 343 feet nobody as a matter of fact nobody has even come close right so the record's gonna be there forever ever yeah so raise the barriers if you want a record and people like

well ain't no chance of me breaking the record what am i doing it's like i think it's the woman's shot record the woman's shot record is so far out there ain't nobody breaking that record oh cho right then she throwing like 70 feet i mean yeah she threw it 70 something feet hey well the shot put record their ball how heavy is their ball? I think their ball is eight pounds, Ocho. Eight pounds? Okay. What's the women's shot put record? Hey, that's a long way, boy.

It's just like the high school shot record. Michael Carter threw the shot 81 feet. Ain't nobody breaking that. He won the silver medal in the 84 Olympics. Yeah. What's the women's world record in shot play? But when you change it,

you do understand these records are going to... Oh, that's like 74 feet! I'm sorry. Oh oh try to be ash i'm sorry i'm sorry guys yeah ain't no woman look what the women did hold on the lady won the shot putt today ocho she threw it exactly 20 meters on the last throw how far is 20 meters 66 feet give it to me and give me them feet? Give it to me in football yards. Give it to me in football yards. She's threw it 65

feet. That's 7 feet below the world record. Give it to me in football yards. She's throwing 75 feet. give it to me in football yards uh she throwing the 75 feet 75 feet that's 20 it's about 25 20 meters it's 20 yards

it's about 25 25 yards well that's good boy Boy, eight pound ball. Yeah, that's far. I know. It ain't nobody breaking it. Right. Sid has the best chance. Now, maybe Paulino.

She ran 48, 17. Maybe she got some push. Right. We'll see. But do you know you're going to have to run the perfect race in the perfect condition and get the perfect competitors to push you

to get you to get that time. 47-60? It's been 85. There's only two women in the history of track and field that's ever been under 48. Paulino just ran the perfect race and she ran 48.17. There's a big difference between

48.17 and 47.99. Yeah, a whole lot. Yes. A whole lot. Go ahead and change the height. And see the record. My grandkids, grandkids, grandkids grandkids grandkids ain't nobody ever breaking that

just like ain't nobody gonna throw the javelin 343 feet they said it was going too far so guess what it ain't gonna ever happen again I don't know has anybody

I don't know if anybody's ever been over 90 meters let alone 100 meters in the javelin but you can't get mad because somebody is so what when Usain was running those fast times why don't you say what Usain you got to start three yards behind everybody else because these world records are getting out of hand

y'all do realize the man went sub 9.6 three yards behind everybody else because these world records are getting out of hand. Y'all do realize the man went sub 9.6. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, you know how fast 9.6 is? Yes, I do. Everybody else is already fast. 9.6 and on top of 9.6

he still starts damn near dead last. Because Sig broke the world record six times. Sometimes a prodigy comes along. So what did they do with Michael Phelps? Did they make him swim in a different pool? I mean, Caden Ledecky got all the fastest times in the 1500 she got the top 22 fastest times

ever run I mean never swam nothing now see it but you can't stop greatness guess what she gonna drop down go take the barriers off the track, and go win the gold

in L.A. in the 400 meters. And then what? And then I hit y'all with the deuces. I'm out. I'm out. I mean, what else would she need to accomplish? She's a two-time Olympic champ with the world record in

the hurdles. She's a three-time Olympic champ with the world record in the hurdles. She's a three-time world champ in the hurdles and she'll be an Olympic champ in the 400 meters? Knowing Sid, she said, you know what? Hey, Bobby, I think I can do it. If you get them to alter this, I'll do both of them. I'll do a double-double.

There was a Cuban guy in 76, Ocho. He won... What did he win? Did he win the... He won the 800 and the 400? I think he won... I think he won the 800 meters

and the 400 meters in the same Olympics. Goals? Yes. I think it was 76. Was it Gonzalez? Was... gold yes i think it was with the gonzalez was but he's from cuba i know he's from cuba but that's great that's crazy work what can you imagine when the eight and four in today's olympics no it ain't happening

yeah huh who you ain't gotta tell me no i don't believe we'll ever see another man win the Florida two in the same Olympics. I don't believe we'll see another man, another female. He won the 800 and the 400, right? I don't think we'll ever see another woman do it again. I think Marie-José Perek and what Michael Johnson did in 96, I don't think we'll ever see another woman do it again. I think Marie-José Perek and what Michael Johnson did in 96, I don't think we'll see it again. Because you're going to have to stagger it to give them an opportunity.

Because that's four races. You can't have eight races in four days of span, Ocho. You got to give them a chance. You got to qualify. And you got to be special. Do you realize how special you have to be? You have to be able to be special. Do you realize how special you have to be? Yeah, to be able to do that.

And like Mike said, he had been thinking about it. Because Mike, first, when he was talking, he had won his first world championship in the 200. So Mike started out as a 200. But like he said, he was splitting such great times. He's like, well, hold on, wait a minute. Bro, you're running low 40 folds, you splitting 43s. We need to put your ass in

some blocks. Yeah, let's see what happens. Think about how good he could have been had he just chosen one. There's a big difference. Now, hey, the one and two is a beast. But that devil, the one and two is a beast. Yeah. But

that devil, that two and that four? Listen, that four ain't no joke. That four make a man out of you. What? That's a grown man's race. Make you put your head on your knees and shake your head. Come on, son. My old boy ran that four.

Got a dog, got on it, gap of that bed at the top. Yeah. Stopped dead in his track. Coach, I said, come on, son. You can do it. All he do is shake his head and said, I can't do it, coach. You said I can't. Boy, that PM will jump on your back.

If y'all ran track, y'all know what I'm talking about. Y'all know that. When that bear and that Pete, they throw that jump on your back. If y'all ran track, y'all know what I'm talking about today. Y'all know that, hey, when that bear and that pea, they throw that PM on your back. Listen, when you hit that 250-yard mark, you think you feeling good, and you get to that 250, that 220, that 250, and that monkey jump on your back? Yeah, okay. That last hundred and some chains be hell. All your form out the window. Oh, okay. That last hundred and some chains be hell. All your form out the window. Oh, Joe.

All your form is out the window. What Coach Hall normally have you do. You didn't really get to pick what you did. Coach Hall, like if you're a freshman, he throw you in the mile. He throw you in the half mile. I was like, Coach, my brother was a starter team, so I ain't run no mile. He's like, son, you got to run the three. Back in high school,

we had the three-thirds. Okay. Ocho, I ain't never ran. Come on, Ocho, don't laugh. Ocho, don't laugh, Ocho. Coach, I don't say sucker. You going to run the hurdles i said coach i he said you fine you fine you can jump high and you can run yeah man oh joe oh you don't they go

why you don't you know i figured i'll put him down yeah i ain't got no farm oh joe i'm jumping over that thing like i'm jumping over the fence. A dog chasing me. Oh, one leg at a time. One leg at a time. Hey, I look like Jumpman. I look like Jumpman. Jumpman got a leg. Right, right, right. But I'm good, Ocho. I'm out there. Hey, the dude that ended up winning the region

ended up winning the region. I think he got second in the state. He in my heat. So, you know, Ocho, the first two, three hurdles, I got it. I said, oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, man. Oh, I might do something.

I can do this. I can do this. Man, Ocho. Man, I got to the top of the bed. Yeah. What, at the 200, 200 yard mark? No 200 yard mark no I was good I got to the top of the bed I probably had about four hurdles left right

I sure wish somebody would have moved those hurdles for me man Ocho man my hamstring and my butt felt so heavy. I feel like I had bricks in my ass. I said, oh.

So by that time, Ocho, you know I'm going on the Ocho. You know how you jump over something like one leg at a time and then break the other leg? Ain't no, hey, yeah. Wait, what's you? Man, ain't no telling what my time was. I ain't even bother. Hey, you know, sometimes I think about it

that my kids are older, obviously my daughter running track, and I always think about, damn, what would happen if it get to the day where she could actually beat me running? Even if it's her events. Obviously, if it's the four, maybe it's the eight. Like, that would hurt me so bad.

I'm talking about about i think about it all the time what she run baby mo she run she run the four and eight oh okay she probably probably beat you in the four you think so yeah yeah why you tell you what you tell all your hamstring up trying to run she probably can run she probably can run 60 seconds six oh she way under that well you ain't finna run that that's you know what i'm curious let me see that's a minute you ain't finna run that can she run so what's a 200 time i mean a two or eight eight hundred meter time. Two minutes, 204, 205, 202? Hold on. I'm going to ask.

Where you at? Mo, you here? Hey, you know what? Now I'm curious. Now that we got the Olympic time, I'm curious. That's a good one. I want to know. I want to know. Yeah. Hey. What's your fastest time in the four?

I'm just saying, just in general, your fastest time? 53.7. And what's your fastest time in the eight? 20.73? Yeah. All right, man. Unk said you could beat me in the 400. 2073 yeah alright man Unk said Unk said you could beat me

in the 400 yeah you ain't gonna run no you ain't running around no 53 seconds alright man who man

listen I mean like right now cause I'm in shape after you know you gotta think I just had a whole soccer season for three months right

so I'm in shape I know I can run I can open up dude I play v 11 on like football field soccer field big football field right now i'm telling you let's say if we if i was to do a 400 right now you were the time it i'll probably break in a minute i'll probably man no no come on no you ain't breaking a minute i'll probably come about 45 you ain't breaking a minute. I'll probably come about 45. You ain't breaking a minute. Probably 45.

I'll bet you $5,000 you couldn't run 400 meters right now in a minute. You do know I'll be in Vegas in the morning, right? I'll bet you $5,000. I'll be in Vegas in the morning. We can go to the track. Bet it. Let's bet okay bet

and you know hey a minute you know how disrespectful that is yeah i know i'm in shape i'm in stupid shape apple is a shape so is a pair they got into it they got into doing hey listen you might you might well you might well cut you might well cut that too matter of They ain't got anything to do with running. Hey, listen. You might well cut that, too. Matter of fact, you know what? I want mine in ones, too. I'm going straight to the strip club in Vegas. Okay.

A minute? Mm-hmm. That's disrespectful as an elite athlete still. It's disrespectful that you think you can and you hadn't run okay you're gonna see back okay wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast nfl daily with greg rosenthal five days a week you'll get all the latest news previews recaps and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee. No dumb hot takes here, just smart hot takes. We'll talk every single game, every single week,

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take a listen to the interview. Alright, Ocho, check this out. I told you we were going to have somebody special this morning. The guy that's joining you this morning, he's a two-time Olympic champ at 1,500 meters. He's a one-time Olympic gold medalist at 800 meters, and he won the silver medal in the 800 meter in the Paris. He swam at the University of Florida under the great Anthony Nesty, and he saved the man. Because had he not won a gold medal, it would have been the first time since 1900, no individual man had won a swimming gold medal.

Welcome to the show, Bobby Fink. Bobby, how you doing? I'm doing good. Thank you for having me. Man, thanks for coming on. As I mentioned in your intro, is that did you feel the pressure there's already pressure to win a gold medal you're representing an entire country and we understand that but for for the first time and over a hundred years had you not did what you did

the men would have been shut out of the individual goals did that add pressure to you oh yeah i mean i i'm someone who personally likes reading all the comments and everything. So on the stories like major news site, I was going through like every article reading every comment and everything. And like, there's a bunch of comments saying like, Bobby better be listening to like lose yourself on repeat right now or something. Cause he's a last chance. I knew about the record going in before I knew how hard it was going to be um and you know I'm just fortunate enough I was able to get it done because I did not want my name

attached to that to for that to be go down um so yeah we we got it done now yeah what was it like I'm gonna I'm gonna going to start where it all started from. Obviously, you grew up in Clearwater, Florida. How did your hometown shape your swimming career to actually get to the point where you are now? Yeah. I mean, so my mom grew up swimming. I have two older sisters who swam, both attended college, both attended Olympic trials in 2016. who swam uh both attended college both attended olympic trials in 2016 and you know i grew up younger than them i wanted to beat them growing up a bunch and my my mom's the one who taught me how to swim over and over in clearwater beach so i was kind of always growing up around water and i liked being in it um and then having two older sisters you know um i bet you can experience a

competitive sibling naturehood there is. And I grew up just wanting to beat them. And once I did beat them, I wanted to get as far away as possible. I could from them, you know. And yeah, I think I've done that pretty well. So. Michael Phelps, the great Michael Phelps, he really needs no introduction. Phelps, the great Michael Phelps, he really needs no introduction. He spoke very, very highly of you individually, but he said he was very, very disappointed in the men's

swim team. Now, we know the French team, you get a kind of, like when you have the Olympics in your home country, you kind of get a little bump. Marshawn, he different. He ain't getting no bump. He could have swam on the moon. He could swim in the Dead Sea. He could swim in the Atlantic Ocean. He's going to be what he is.

But do you think things are going to be different in 2028 when the Olympics are going to be held on home soil? Because it was very disappointing for the men not to do better than what they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, for sure. I mean, it was kind of a big wake-up call these past couple years for um and swimming specifically just because of how deep it has gotten how competitive it's gotten which is amazing for the sport you know michael phelps did amazing things for the sport um and you know these past couple years it was a wake-up call to us that you know world's catching up we got to do better we got to figure

out some ways to to be dominant again um and you know 2028 i feel like it's a perfect time to do it perfect time to to show the world who we are and that you know we're still there um team usa on top always but um you know home olympics especially in la i think it's gonna be really magical for us that's dope are there any mental strategies that you go through to prepare for a high competition race especially like for one represent an entire country you're over in paris it's the olympics none of us have meddled in all the pressure and the eyes are riding on you are there are there any mental strategies that you do? Any superstitions? Yeah.

Um, I, I don't know if I really got, I call them like superstitions for me. Um, but everything is really in just how I prepare for the race. Um, especially over at the Olympic village. The, I don't know if you guys have heard, but like the food was, um, very controversial. Um, a bit, um, Food wasn't the best, but I had so much pasta just in the days leading up. I was carbo loading like crazy and I, I hate pasta right now.

Like I, oh my God. But like in, in the day leading up to that 1500, Oh my God. Um, but like in, in the day leading up to that 1500, a lot of it was motivation on how angry I was after the 800 when I lost.

Um, because I, a silver medal is great and everything. Um, I understand that, but like for me deep down, I was pissed after that race. Cause I didn't win.

And I needed that, that kind of fire in me to be motivated for the 1500 because I want to stand on top of that podium I want to hear the national anthem I haven't heard it much all me and I need to hear it and I need to do it for our team um and you know behind the blocks I was just telling myself to stay calm but the not like the power is in you but like you know what to do and you know how to swim you've done it a hundred times um it's really a whole mental game you're you're having with your brain is just telling yourself that you know you've done it you can do it again it's it's nothing new to you yeah but when when you look at the situation and when you broke the world record um you really and and

you didn't get normally when people break world records they're getting pushed you finished four seconds ahead but what the hell like uh you had like you had a motorboat and they had paddles and and so i'm watching you and i'm seeing your stroke and it's so smooth when you're swimming swimming in a race of that distance, obviously, you know, you got the 50 meters, you got 100 meters, you got the different strokes. But when you're 1500 meters, there's a lot of time for you to be in your own head. What are you thinking about when you when you swim in 1500 meters? Yeah. So I normally race my competition and I'll start behind them for the most part or I'll stay right next to them. So I like the 100, the 200. When I had a body length lead, I was kind of like, what the hell is going on right now?

Because it was just so abnormal for me. But I could kind of see the scoreboard a little bit when I was racing. And on the scoreboard, they would show the world record line um so i was kind of mentally racing that the whole time and i was mentally racing okay okay yeah so i saw the world record line like three times during the race and that that got me going in the race so hard um but also like i'm very aware of like what is going around me. So I knew Greg Paltrinari, the Italian, who was in lane five, two lanes over. I knew he started to inch up on me a lot. And same thing with Daniel Whiffen,

the Ireland representative who won the 800 previously. I knew he started to catch Greg a bit. I was kind of peeking over there. But I knew as long as I stood or stay ahead of Greg, that I would be able to stay ahead of Dan. So I was kind of keeping it that mental. It's just like, just stay ahead of them. I don't have to be too far away from them or like drop back to be at their pace.

I just needed to stay right ahead of them. Right. And that was really a big mental game for me. It was just trying to, right ahead of them um right and that that was really a big mental game for me it was just trying to you know be aware where they are even though they're behind me make sure i have a safe distance from them so that that's really what i was focusing on when did you when did you pick up the 1500 meters yeah uh it was kind of always always one of my things um okay because just because my sisters did it and that's what they race and i wanted to beat them so that's why sadly that is why i became a distance swimmer i you know now when i look back at things i become a sprinter

all day um just because it's yeah that's a lot of training it's more fun and kind of like more exciting um but being a distance swimmer you know it it i did it for my sisters really that's dope that's dope listen as someone who also competed i'm not as decorated as you but i did compete when i'm from five years old to 10 years old as a competitive swimmer. I always thought about what it would be like. And I'm thinking about the memories that I had in competing at such a young age. So for you looking back on your career so far, are there, is there a particular race or moment that stands out as opposed to winning gold? You know, there, there is a race and it was back when I was 11. See, see, I told you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was 11 years old. I was swimming the 800 meter freestyle and it was over at the Orlando YMCA right off of I-4 in Orlando. It was our age group championships. I was in the lane next to Matthew Hershberger, who at the time was someone who was breaking all of the national age group records fastest ever at his

age for those events. He was a year older than me. He whooped on me. I thought when I was 11, I went 9-16, which I still think is really good to this day for an 11-year-old. For some reason, that race just always stood out to me as one of my best performances ever. And I don't know why, but for some reason, it was it was like the first wake-up call

i was like you know i i'm good at this like i can keep doing this um right you know and it wasn't the time that beat my sisters but it was a time that like at the time ranked nationally within 11 year olds and it proved to myself that like this is the route i'm gonna end up going on bobby like you're 1500 meters and you say you've always been in love with the 1500 mainly because your sisters did it and you wanted to beat them but did you study uh the great 1500 meters that came before you the russian vladimir selenikov you look at grant hackett the great australian sunyang the guy his record that you just broke. Did you study the great ones that came before you? And you look at the progression.

I think this race was first contested in 1904, and I think the winning time was like 2248. Here we are. We're already down to 1430 now. When you look at the progression and where we've come from and look at some of the names that have held that world record,

where are you trying to take this record to and what do you try and what do you hope to accomplish in the 1500 meter? Yeah. I cannot tell you how many times I rewatched sun Yang's 1500 back from 2012. Um, just in the backseat of my, my dad's car when he would drive me to practice in the mornings and

afternoon, I I've watched that race hundreds of times like i'm not even kidding um i knew i knew his stroke i knew how crazy of a time he was he was like 10 seconds out of the rest of the field um in that race and you know even even one of my competitors by race a silver medalist was in that race um greg poltroneri he was 17 at the time and he got fifth or fourth um and ever since the sun yang um doping controversy thing that happened a few years later greg poltroneri kind of became like the distance guy who became he got really close to that race and everything and i studied how he raced the entire time um and he was someone who always took it out fast but he has a horrendous stroke um but so

kind of just looking at how those guys race because sunying was very conservative at the beginning and came back really hard greg poltroneri was just very fast throughout the entire race greatest pacer i've ever seen um two different race strategies and two very different times um you kind of just got to like what i ended up focusing on was trying to harness both of them a bit you know i really want to be good at pacing i think i i nailed it almost perfectly for me this past 1500 that I did. I got the pacing done really well. Yeah.

I got the pacing done really well, but I was still able to come home really fast and, and clear the rest of the competition, I guess. And in terms of like taking where this record can go, you know, one of the, one of the,

like the worst feelings in the world, even after like breaking a record like that is that you feel like you can still do better during that race like you know like look back and wow maybe if i did that i could have gone like three seconds faster or something because i was i was generally feeling really good in that Um, so like 1430 was amazing to me, but for some, it still stings me a little bit inside. Cause I'm like, I know I could have found like another like second or two in there to get

under 1430. Um, just because I was that close, but it, I, I mean, I want to be one of the guys who brings this record down into the 1420s, maybe low 1420s.

And that's really ambitious. I guess, because the record 20 years down into the 1420s maybe low 1420s and that's really ambitious i i guess because the record 20 years ago was only 1434 so it's only dropped four seconds within these 24 years and to bring it down i i guess like 10 seconds is incredible but i mean someone's got to be able to think it to do it and i know my other competitors are because we talked about it so um you know you start thinking it then the wheels start going and then the record's going to end up going eventually yeah wait when i when i when i listen to you talk and i can i can sense the competitive edge that you have and drive you know to want obviously to be the best do you during your career have you faced any obstacles or significant challenges or setbacks in your swimming career and is there a way that you had to overcome them or how did you overcome them for if you did have any yeah uh so i've been

for the most part i've been very fortunate um as swimmer. I haven't had too many issues. The main issues I had was during college, I'd fall off my scooter and break my wrist one year. You broke your wrist for real? Yeah. I don't remember how it happened, but I got stitches on my face. It was a pretty rough crash but right um broke my wrist then had to skip out on our world university games which was kind of sucky but for some reason when i feel like i'm hindered a bit it kind of

motivates me more because i was swimming the whole summer in a brace um on my on my arm so when i was able to like keep up with some of the guys randomly in practice it would motivate me motivate me a lot just because i was like yo i got like one arm here and i got like a right but and like what i'm finding is i'm getting older. My body breaks down a lot easier. This past year, I did something to my back. I don't know. I became paralyzed for a week. It was kind of funny because I get out of the pool.

I'm just stiffed back everywhere, and I'm stuck. It's become like a running joke on our team because the two guys, Kieran Smith and I, we're both the same age, but our bodies are just breaking every time we're in a weight room. His knees are gone. My back's gone. My shoulder's gone. Yeah, no, I mean, in terms of what I've heard from other athletes,

getting surgeries and stuff and fixing everything, I've been very fortunate. Everything that's happened to me, I've just been able to treat with rehab and stuff and like fixing everything. I've been very fortunate. Everything that's happened to me, I've just been able to treat with like rehab and stuff like that. I haven't needed surgery or anything like that. So I've been very good that way. I'm hoping it stays that way too.

Bob, when you look at it, when you are 800, 1500 meter swimmer and the type of volume that it requires in training, what is the typical, how many calories are you eating in a day to fuel your body so you can get back in the pool tomorrow and do it all over again yeah i i mean it it generally ranges per day um a lot of the time because it really depends on how tired i am after practice to be able to cook a meal or go out and get a meal um it easily over 6 000 on the high end maybe close to 10 or 9 i guess it really depends um like i'll

down like a piece and a half like no problem at all and that's like three a whole pizza yeah and like a little more sometimes depending on like if i'm eating with my girlfriend we get like we get like two pizzas so i'll eat one and then she eats like some of the other and i'll get her leftovers there we go i like it um bob how much do you how much how much do you weigh? 173. 173 pounds. Are you eating somewhere between 6,000 and 9,000 calories? Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah.

Yeah. I like it. I don't know why. I can't gain weight. So I don't know. It doesn't work for me. That's a great problem to have, Bobby. Let me ask you this.

When you see these prodigies, you look at Marshawn, Michael Phelps was a prodigy, Katie Ledecky was a prodigy, and there's a lot of expectations for them to carry it on. And then we look at someone like Missy Frankel. She burst onto the scene. She was the darling. She was the sweetheart. And I think she had some injuries, and I think that's kind of what set her back.

But how difficult is it to maintain that competitive edge when you're a prodigy? Michael Phelps, I think he went to the Olympics in 2000 or 2000. It's like 14, 15-year-old. And then you see Ledecky, she does the same thing. How difficult is it to maintain that when you have success at such a young age and then maintain that? such a young age and then maintain that yeah i i mean it's definitely one of the most difficult things i think that can happen to someone in any kind of sport is you get so much attention at such a young age and depending on how you kind of like handle that it can it can really just make or break you you you'll be successful and then you'll really just make or break you you you'll be successful and then you'll never hear that person ever again or you'll be successful and you'll

continuously see them in the headlines growing up and and everything um i honestly probably harder than winning a gold medal um just because the amount of athletes that are so successful when they're young and you never hear them later on is so high especially in the sport of swimming that it's it's very unfortunate um just because like they had the potential to be there but seeing how they react to certain situations or how they're they're brought up in their sport and everything like that it really can change how they are in the future of the sport and you know michael got it right obviously katie got it right obviously um but like leon's there now and again out of like all those young prodigies there's there's only three of them and it was

like those three so a lot of it is it's it's very impressive to me and you know i want those young prodigies to always do well every single time because it can be huge for all sports um whatever sport they're part of but it's the I don't want to say like failure rate, but like the like drop-off rate of what happens is so high. It's really unfortunate, but I'm rooting for them every time. I think the U.S. swim team

need to give Bob Barman a lifetime contract so you can only coach American athletes here. Here's $5 million and you don't coach anybody else but American athletes. He has $5 million and you don't coach anybody else but American athletes because he has something in his thoughts

because he has Phelps, he has Ledecky, and now he has these young French kids, Marchand. Yes. I'm paying you not to coach anybody else. You don't have to work. You don't got to coach any American athletes. Just don't coach anybody else. I don't think he'd take it though.

I do not think he'd take it, especially after the success he did solidly on. Yeah. That was crazy. Being there and witnessing the French crowd when he swam was like, it was magical.

Like I've never heard something louder in my life, just when he would walk out on the pool deck. Yeah. We gotta pay him back. We gotta get somebody. We gotta pay him back. We gotta find some kid in Florida or some kid from the DMV. We'll get someone in four

years' time. Hey, Bobby, outside of swimming, do you have any hobbies activities that you enjoy doing i know we know normally uh we know swimming is is your respective craft but outside of that i mean there has to be something else that is your outlet i call it you know my piece so football i did all my life but outside football, my safe haven and my peace was gaming. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I definitely do enjoy a lot of gaming, especially with the guys on the UF swim team. And, you know, back in the day before, like, all this COVID stuff happened, it was ping pong because we had a table in our team room. And for some reason reason it just became like the game. I'd be there for like two and a half hours before practice just playing constantly and like an hour afterwards just because like, you know, someone said some trash talk. So you got to like go defend yourself.

Yeah. It was in the beginning it was ping pong and then afterwards I started playing a lot of video games with boys. There we go. I like it. Bobby, what do you think the most difficult stroke in swimming is?

See, swimming, because there's so many disciplines and so many different races, it's kind of hard to point one out. Because the hardest stroke to be good at, I would say is breaststroke because it's so, it's so technical and everything. Like you have an ounce of drag on you. You're you're behind. And I suck at breaststroke.

Um, yeah, I, I hate it so much. I'm so bad at it, but like physicalness, um, raw physic physicalness would probably butterfly yeah it would be fly but their races are some of the easiest which is weird but like for a physical

stroke butterfly would be the most demanding but the races there's other all the other strokes races are harder you'll get like more sore more lactic acid buildup from other races which is kind of it's weird like something's a weird sport when it comes to that kind of stuff because like you you ask someone who hasn't swam before to do fly they're not doing it um and but you ask someone to be good at breaststroke they're not doing it for the most part. It's such a unique sport in that kind of way. Bobby, you ask anybody, that's not good at swimming to do any stroke.

And they're not going to be good at it. Freestyle, backstroke, breaststroke. The only stroke they're going to be good at is the rock stroke to the bottom of the pool. Bobby, I just wanted on behalf of Shay Shay Media and Nightcap, stroke you're going to be good at is the rock stroke to the bottom of the booth bobby i just wanted uh on behalf of uh shea shea media and uh nightcap yeah we're very proud of you here i know my subscribers are proud of you i know the u.s is proud of you and to show you how proud we are of

you i don't know if you can see that can you see that in your screen uh kind of hold on hold on oh god hold on we gonna break it a little closer we gonna make sure you see it I'm gonna take my glass off okay he gonna zoom in my camera guy gonna zoom in

we gonna zoom it in we gonna make sure you see this I can't see um in we're gonna zoom it in okay make sure you see this i can't see um god can you see that bobby yeah i oh my god yeah i yeah wow yeah uh but we got we got your information um oh my god wait wait a minute wait whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Bobby not in order to get that in order to get that in its entirety when you come back to Florida we have to race 800 1500 whatever you want to do whatever you guys want

hey if you can beat me, it's all yours. Oh, my God. Hey, congratulations, though, man. Congratulations, man. Yeah. Get us something nice. I'm proud of you, bro. Congratulations.

What you've been able to accomplish thus far. Stay healthy. Good luck down the road. I mean, the world's the next year. And then in in two years after that you got the olympics in la so we look forward to following your career continued success bro and uh congratulations again on all your accomplishments no oh you you got oh you guys oh wow you you guys are amazing um yeah jesus holy shit hey you know what i just thought about yeah you write it you write in clearwater right yeah yeah you know i live in miami how far are

you from me uh uh about four and a half hours oh so you more you more like or Orlando down that way, huh? Near Tampa. Near Tampa? Yeah, yeah. It's just because... Sorry, I'm just... My brain. I think it's just because of the way you have to get to Miami. Right, right, right.

Because you got to like... Not straight through the Everglades, but you have to go to like Naples first and then... Naples, yeah. And then go... Yeahples first and then go. We'll catch up. We got to get this. I mean, you guys are already legendary in your sport,

but you guys are legendary for this. I can't thank you guys enough. You guys are... No, thank you. Enjoy and I appreciate you stopping by this morning. We appreciate you stopping by nightcap this morning and, uh,

look forward to talking to you down the road, bro. No, thank, thank you. I, I appreciate everything you guys have done for, for your sports.

And then obviously for, for the Olympic games this time, especially for the athletes. Um, yeah, that is a, this is a dream. This is a dream.

And you guys are well a part of it. And thank you. Thank you so much. Well, all right, bro. Have a good one. All right, boss. Thank you. The volume.

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