Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Shakur Stevenson & Shannon Sharpe CRASH OUT + NBA Puts HOLD on Kawhi TRADE amidst INVESTIGATION + Mbappe and France CRUISE BY Morocco

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the NBA putting a hold on Kawhi trade, Mbappe continues dominance vs Morocco and Shakur Stevenson joins Nightcap! Subs...cribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction2:58 - Clippers and Raptors trade for Kawhi Leonard on hold9:00 - France defeats Morocco34:30 - Shakur Stevenson joins (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:34 Please, please drink responsibly and stay safe. At the bottom of the hour, we have Shakur Stevenson joining us at the bottom of the hour. But first, the Clippers and the Toronto Raptors trade, sent it on Kauai Leonard, will not be complete until the NBA investigation whether the Clippers circumvented the salary cap is completed. The Clippers and the Raptors agreed to a trade on June 30th that would send the NBA, the all-NBA forward to Toronto for Brandon Ingram, Grady Inc., a unprotected first-round draft pick in 2031, 233,
Starting point is 00:06:08 and a 27-1-1-1-1-6-round pick swap and two-second-round pick. The NBA's investigation to the Clippers is focused on whether they circumvented the salary cap by funneling money to Kauai through a $28 million endorsement deal with a green banking company aspiration, which also had $300 million, a 23-year endorsement deal with the team. Team owner Steve Barmer, who invested $60 million in aspiration, has denied he had any knowledge of Kauai's deal. The Clippers on Thursday said they did not funnel money to Kauai learners through aspiration, and they were victim. a fraud initiated by aspirations, excuse me, co-founder, Joe Sandberg. Sanberg was convicted and sentenced to 14 years in prison. Joe, the NBA loved the billionaires until they found out how they really do business. What do you make of this situation?
Starting point is 00:06:58 Pablo Tori, he has a podcast. He was at ESPN and he did an M-depth deep dive. He had documentation of saying, okay, this is what they were doing. He had a $28 million endorsement deal in which he didn't have to show up. He had other perks that he didn't have to do anything, and he just received those perks. Now, it is noted. He went him and his uncle Dennis approached the Toronto Raptors about a very, very similar situation. They wanted part of the team and they wanted this and they wanted that.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And the upper management told him that's illegal. We can't do that. We're circumventing the salary cap and the league found us out, basically in a long story short, they're going to punish just severely. It was reported that they brought the same thing to the Lakers. And the lake and Jeannie Bus, like, we can't do that. And lo and behold, the one team didn't sign with Toronto. He didn't sign with the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:07:47 The one team that seemingly is what it looks like, allegedly, he signed with. But this is what's being reported. And they say they're not going to do, let this thing go through until they do their deep dive investigation. In order to sign the Clippers, Kauai reportedly, sought assurances that they would extend far beyond the basketball floor. According to the athletic, Kawhi's advisor, Uncle Dennis, requested ownership-staking companies, corporate sponsorship, and no-show endorsement deals that allowed Kauai to collect millions of revenue
Starting point is 00:08:21 without doing any actual work. Pablo Tori found that Kauai and his employers divide the foolproof system to secure Kauai an additional $28 million in funding. Additionally, Pablo Tori, investigated found the aspiration offered Kauai an additional $20 million on top of the $28 million nest meaning he was due to collect $48 million.
Starting point is 00:08:44 The mechanism for Kauai collect said resources with KL2 and Spire LLC, a company owned by Kauai and Uncle Dennis, if I'm not mistaken. The Kauai partner with Steve Barmer-led aspiration, a tree planning company that went bused in March of 2025. Joe, what are you making of this? I can hold you, my honest opinion, hell it probably did happen.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I'm saying listen because you know y'all know how billionaires move bro they yeah damn fair we always going it's always going to be a little uneven you know what I mean but I think to get quiet a commit yeah man this probably was an under the table deal bro hey hey we're going to take care you we're going to make sure you make plenty of money off the court hey they just mess around they got caught now the NBA going to do a deep dive now I know they rescinded the Chris Paul deal back when he was with the hornets they didn't let that deal go through You remember what they did to Joe Smith? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:42 When he had that deal, he signed that in Minnesota. Yeah. And it put Minnesota in hell for the foreseeable future. It took their draft picks for the next three years. They said, no, you cannot resign Joe Johnson. Excuse me, Joe, Joe, Johnson, Joe Smith. And so he had a big time deal on the table. That it was, hey, we're going to go ahead and sign this thing soon as the season over.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Woo, woo, woo, woo, and somebody got mad, and they went to the league office and told the league office. and David Stern did not play that foolishness. And he hammered them. So those are just the ones that got caught here. Imagine the ones that didn't get caught. Right. Iso check your mic.
Starting point is 00:10:21 What happened? It sounds like it's coming from your computer. Oh, what about now? What about now? Say something? What's up? What's up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Okay. Yeah. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, so it don't surprise me, man. Hey, hey, these billionaires are going to move a little different and I'm sure this was, you know, we'll probably never know the full story or the truth,
Starting point is 00:10:46 but this was probably under the table deal, bro. Just keep it 100. Ashley, can you change your mic setting? I just did. Oh, Joe, it seems to be, he goes to one place, wants all this stuff, ownership stake in corporations. He wants these deals where you're going to give me X amount of dollars, but I'm not going to have to do anything for it.
Starting point is 00:11:08 But even if that's the case, you still can't do that. everything has to be basketball related. Now, he says that with the rafters. Now he goes to the Lakers. They said no, Jeannie Buss is reported that Jeannie Buss said, we can't do that. Two teams say no. It's seemingly now, he signs with a team.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Now, what's the likelihood that all three teams said no? Seems to me, two teams said no. One team found a way to do it. Hey, we'll do it like this here. We put it in the LLC. Hey, boom, boom, boom, boom. You'll be a partner. And if I'm not mistaken, Pablo was reporting,
Starting point is 00:11:40 that they created these companies, these LLC's, Kauai and his Uncle Dennis, like shortly before the deal was commiserated. Yeah. Consumating. Yeah. Excuse me. Well, obviously, Uncle Joe, for us, we actually actually probably have a little history and understanding on how billionaires were.
Starting point is 00:11:59 They become billionaires for a reason. They don't do everything by the book. They never actually played by the book, which is why they're able to attain the kind of wealth that they do get. When it come to cut corners, they know exactly what corners are cut, to be able to get what they want done. This just happened to be a situation where a billionaire has gotten caught, they've gotten caught up in what they want to do in getting the player they actually
Starting point is 00:12:19 wanted. Most of the time, when it comes to them, when they do business, they throw money at it. They throw money at it to fix any issue and to get what they want. It just happened to be one of many that it happened to have been, you know, having to been caught up in it. And obviously it did go through. I'm not sure if the trade is going to go through. they do a deep dive, but how much a dive do you need to make?
Starting point is 00:12:43 You don't need scuba here. I mean, you have great, right, Charles, and see what was going on here. You know, so I'm not sure what the dive is for. It's not really necessary. There's really nothing to get in depth about. It's more so common sense and logic. When we look at the situation,
Starting point is 00:12:57 David Stern is not the commissioner right now. So maybe Adam Silver may be a little bit more lenient, but we'll see what happens. Yeah, I just think the thing is that when you're dealing with a situation like this, and they've had these big, lawyers, the lawyers are making $2,500, $3,000 an hour. They went to all these prestigious schools. They're a big part of these big law firms, and they know how to maneuver.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And we see this a lot of times when they want to move money, they create these corporations so it don't tie back to them, and they get to move money over here, over there. And you never, you never, you never, you never know where it came from, how they came to be. But you just know, they just know how to do things like that. And that's, you know, that's the way if something would happen, I have, I need, because at the end of the day, Joe, Ocho, and Joe, I need plausible deniability.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And you see what he said? I gave him $60 million, but I had no knowledge of where the money was going. See, he has plausible deniability. So that's what I need. That's what you have to create. You have to create. That happened. I absolutely gave Ocho and Joe $10 million apiece,
Starting point is 00:13:58 but I didn't know what they was doing with that money now. I'm, I'm just, I was scammed just as much as you guys were. Ocho, check your mic. All right, dang, everybody having a mic problem today, huh? Hold on, can you hear me? Hey, my mic, you good? I'm good now. Your mic on Zoom?
Starting point is 00:14:22 It ain't now. Hold on. You're good now, Ocho. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. You know, I got this thing, I got this thing, Nip tuck over here now. Yeah. But, you know, they're going to do what they're going to...
Starting point is 00:14:32 Hey, Joe, can you hear me? Joe, mute. Now, Joe, you muted, Joe. Hey, guys, I probably found somebody worried. that electronics to me and technology. Y'all still can't hear me? Oh, there you go. Yeah, we got you now.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So it's a very unfortunate situation because, you know, you want to make it much. And plus the thing is you have to get extra money because why, guys, I'm in California, 13 and a half percent state tax. So I need some way, the money that I'm losing, I need the way to get some of that back. And what's the best way to get it back?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Okay, you got. give me extra. So if I'm just making 130, now you give me an opportunity to make 170. Okay, you know what? All right. Okay. But a little age 24 meal in my pocket, I can do a little something with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:38 But look, to get said play, I mean, we see this all the time. When you want somebody, when they're coming out of college and it's Google or it's Apple of it's, whatever the case may, alphabet, that of it. If you want to get really get one of these top-not students, Ocho, you got to make, you got to make assurances. Okay, I'm going to pay for your apartment the first year, first year.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I'm going to pay to relocate you. I'm going to give you an additional. I'm going to start you off at best, but I'm also going to give you a bonus because you're in competition. Yes. Once you're valuable and they know other corporations want your services, now you become a valuable commodity. See, that's how value is creating. It's made it. Boom.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And so Kauai, they knew he was valuable. How do I make sure he doesn't go back to Toronto and he doesn't sign with the team that's at the penthouse in the building that we play in? They said, no, there's no way he's going to the clippers. No. So it's going to be, it's going to be, it doesn't look good,
Starting point is 00:16:47 but sometimes things to the naked eyes, you know, sometimes the eyes can fool us. It's not a good look. They're going to do their homework. And who knows, maybe they find something, Ocho, Joe, Joe. Maybe they don't. Yeah. We're going to find out here in what, the next, I say, seven to 14 days.
Starting point is 00:17:03 They're going to find something. You only go find something. So you better, see, what happened? He died on playing big game, Ocho. And he doesn't mess the settings. Oh, so I got one, hold on, one more time, one more time. So y'all really can't, y'all can hear me, or I, y'all hear an echo or what? Yeah, I guess in production, they hear it like you talking through your, instead of your microphone, you talking through the computer.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah, I can hear you. I'm saying, but I sound funny or something, Ocho. You look funny, you don't sound funny. You want you want to have log out and then log back on? Okay. He don't know how to fix it. Hell, if he can fix it from Saturday, he could fix it right now. Yeah, yeah, dude, they normally talk me through it, but we didn't.
Starting point is 00:18:03 been having no problem we've been goocha's you know i like that joke they normally what they normally talk me through it but what's you do okay okay okay okay okay you hear you're what you're saying normally talking right oh through it yeah hey hey you know what i'm thinking out jo we know if it don't come out to wash it'll come out to rents yeah hey y'all too damn grown to be managed like this man you know what y'all so man you hear me uh huh I'm just saying, hey, that's the wrong, uh, wrong choice of words to you, talk you through it. Yeah, that's what I know. That's what we, that's what we normally do.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I mean, but somebody else talking you through it. I mean, I never heard that. What Steinstein say, a person that runs with a lie eventually will stumble over the truth because everything comes to light. Yes, sir, yes, uh. Yeah, you got to pause a whole damn conversation there, though, huh? I can't even have a conversation with the nightcap. crew about my microphone without
Starting point is 00:19:05 talking about some man and stuff. Come on, man. I'm just saying it's your choice of wording. Hey, Joe, that's all? Yeah. Hey, Joe, you just tell them. It's all good, Joe. Now, I don't make you no bad brother. I don't make you no bad brother, Joe. Hey, no, Joe, I don't look at you any different.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Hey, boy, y'all got a chill. Y'all got to chill, for real. Y'all got to slow down. For real. I mean, you, you are who we are. At the end of the day, we are what we are. Right. Now, whether you tell us who you are, but that's who you are, even in your most private moments,
Starting point is 00:19:42 when Joe Johns, when Joseph Johnson is home alone by himself. Yeah. If there's no one else around, that's who he is. Yeah, you got to look at that mirror. You ain't got to tell Ocho and I, me and Ocho and I can survive all we want to. And you got, you got to face the music. Yeah. Hey, y'all make ourselves look guilty, man.
Starting point is 00:20:00 When y'all, when you already in your hand, Joe. Look, look. See what I'm saying? You can open it. He'll fly away. Or you could crush him, but the bird is in your hand. Hmm. And again, don't make you no bad, brother.
Starting point is 00:20:18 It don't, I like, that was real profile. Yeah, yeah. I like that. I mean, Joe think we go, but see, I think the thing is Ocho, he think we're gonna look at him differently. Well, we won't. Yeah, we're not gonna judge you.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Hey, we're not gonna judge. I'm not judge you. What you mean? Judge me out of what? What you judge me? I mean, I mean, you being talked through it. You being talked through it, huh? Yeah, yeah, ain't no, ain't I, listen.
Starting point is 00:20:45 What's your faith, Chuck? What's your pay, Chad? Yeah, they think that you won and Ocho two? Or yeah, yeah, I won. I'm gonna tell you what they really think. I'm gonna tell you what they really think. Chat really think, aren't one. And Ocho, you, Ocho, fight you,
Starting point is 00:20:59 because you see what he pulled out the other night. I mean, damn. That alone should make him number one. Hold on. What do you mean? That ain't my stuff? Who stuff was that? I would just bring a stuff on to show you and what you could do in your relationship. I don't use it.
Starting point is 00:21:16 And plus, Joe, you might be right number third, but we know you're going to win the battle. We already know. Number one seed don't always win. Hey, y'all want me to be, y'all want me to be number one so bad. It ain't going to happen, fellas. I'm sorry. Duh. But here's the question, though. Joe and Ocho.
Starting point is 00:21:37 If they do find that the clippers circumvented the cap in order to acquire Kiwai services, what is the punishment? What should the punishment be? Ooh. Because he got there in 2019. So the 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26. So they basically had basically almost seven, eight years of his service. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:04 They're going to, they're going to try. to, obviously, you know, they're going to try and put a big fine on them, but they're going probably take away draft picks. They're going to try to make it tough so they'll have to suffer over the next four to five years. For sure. It'll ruin them. Yeah. Yeah. Now, look, he's the wealthiest, he's the wealthiest sports owner in the world. The man's worth $150-something billion.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And so that ain't going to do it. You know, you find him a million, $5 million, $10 million, $20 million. that doesn't do anything to his pockets. And he write it off. The only thing, the only way you can get their attention is to take draft compensation. Yep. Yep. That's it. Take that draft compensation first, uh, first round pick.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Hell, I don't know if they got the first round picks anyway after what they traded. Yeah, they probably don't. I don't know. I ain't sure. But they're going to have to make do with what they got because they're going to, they're going to damn sure try and punish them. Well, I think this show, I don't think. you have a choice because what you what you try to do punishment should be swift and harsh
Starting point is 00:23:14 but punishment is not about the individual or the organization that committed the act it's also about sending a message to deter others from committing said acts yeah right because you already know what happened once you find out that that calling card guess what now you got about 15 people got calling cards And the funny thing about it is there's always some funny business going on, especially when to come to Venice with people that have that kind of wealth. Yes. They don't do, they don't say always, not always, Ojo.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I hate saying always and ever, but the thing is, and Ocho is talked about this, man, to get that kind of wealth, you got to step on a lot, you got to step on or step over a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. I ain't saying you're stepping on them, Joe, but you got to step over. Hey, it's a. dirty business man is a dirty business and most of the time when you when you were when you were
Starting point is 00:24:12 amass you know that kind of wealth i mean you don't play by the book i mean you never have any way you know let alone so any short any shortcuts you can take any advantage you can you can you can do to help your business in any way and it can tell you to you know grow your money exponentially you're going to do it you're going to do it every issue the one thing that they do if you had that kind of money is you throw more money at it that's how you fix everything and when you have money what don't you like being told no. Because if you tell me no, Joe, I'm gonna put a number out there
Starting point is 00:24:45 that you gotta say yes. You can't refuse. So that's what that's what I'll do. You say no, but I'll put a number. I'll put up zeros where you don't have a no, you don't have no, it's like, damn. Yeah. Cause maybe you got a number in your mind
Starting point is 00:25:01 that like, nah, I'm good. But he goes double what that number you had in your mind. Mm-hmm. You're like, huh? Like, like Q, Bima Q, like, huh? Yeah. And so it's going to be very interesting. I'm going to see, I need them to go ahead and find this thing up.
Starting point is 00:25:23 If they find something, hey, do your punishment, do whatever you're going to do to the clippers. If you don't find anything, let this thing go on and go through. Because you got other players in Limbo also. This is not just about Kuwait. Yeah. You got, you got B.I. This in limbo is reported that they're looking. to probably possibly move on move bi somewhere we don't know yeah just been reading you know
Starting point is 00:25:44 trying to try to try to see what's going on you got like oh man that dude last name i don't know if i think i might have to change my name hey this is a man name man yeah yeah joe yeah it's okay he say listen that's the family name here listen i'm gonna have to go hollywood you know most of the people in Hollywood got different names. That ain't their real name. I'm gonna get me. I'm gonna have to get me a new day, but I can't. What happened?
Starting point is 00:26:18 And you see the guy, uh, he swapped Jersey with somebody. Did you see the guy he swapped jersey with? His last name was black. Black, yeah, yeah. And the other guy's last name was it. Yeah, they're holding the jersey. Come on, man. Joe, I can't do that, Joe.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Come on, Joe. Hey, and they know what they be doing. I don't know what he's talking about. Nah, who's talking about? It's a cat from Toronto. He was in the trade too, going to the clippers up. Yeah, Grady. His name, Grady.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You can't say the word? You can say it. That's his name, his name, Grady Dick. Yes. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, so. But he traded swap jerseys with a guy, I think, from Memphis. Yeah, now.
Starting point is 00:27:01 No. For Orlando. The black. Yeah. His last name was black. Right, right, right, right. holding up one name black and the other one name. Hey, they did that on purpose, man.
Starting point is 00:27:16 They're clouded. Yeah, you got, hey, hey, man, hey. Because most people, hey, hey, what's up, Johnson? They call you by your last name, bro. Don't you call by my last name. Call me Grady. Call me Grady. First of all, I hadn't heard nobody named Grady.
Starting point is 00:27:35 normally people named Grady, you've got to be at least 50. When the last time you heard somebody called Grady? My, hello, hello. I mean, the last Grady I know is Sanford or something. My dad's brother, my uncle, his name Grady. His name was great. How old is he?
Starting point is 00:27:51 I'm 58. I guarantee he older than that. Yeah, yeah, he older than you. That's what I point. If you, if you 50 are older, you got them, you, you're okay to be Grady. But there ain't no 20-year-old name, no Grady. Nah, nah, nah, no.
Starting point is 00:28:05 We close, Ash? Oh, okay. What's that? What's in three minutes? Uh, Shakur coming on. Oh, let me, hold on. Let me get my head gear. I'm gonna beat his ad.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Joe, you watch the soccer match? Yeah, man. Yeah, they might as well get a World Cup to the French team. You like France? You like France? Man, what? They like a damn. Super team out there.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Well, they're the first team to make it to the semifinals, right? Yes. Yeah, I thought Morocco played good. I thought they played decent what hell they goalie played. All right. You know, the reps, the reps kept in a decent game. They weren't calling out of their BS. But Mbapé, Uncle, if he stayed healthy,
Starting point is 00:29:04 he's going to pass all of them records Messi got in the World Cup. Well, he already got like 20 goals. Hell, if they, he got half of what they're. they got now. If they got 16, 17, 17 goals now, he probably got about half of them in the World Cup. He got, what, he's, what, he got eight, nine? Who that?
Starting point is 00:29:24 Mbapé. Yeah, he's at, he's at eight now. He's one above Messi. Yeah, he's going to have every record in the World Cup. No, he tied Messi. Both of them got eight. Oh, dude, he has one more assists. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Messy just scored. Messy has eight with one assists. He has eight with two assists. Two assists. Two assists. Two assists. Okay, yeah, yeah. So, France defeats Morocco two nothing to advance to the
Starting point is 00:29:44 semis, Kielan Mbapé scored a studying goal after missing the first half penalty. He tied Liodel Messi for the lead for the golden boot with eight. Mbapapé assisted on D'embele's goal six minutes later to help get this fifth goal of the tournament. Mbapapé and DeBelle have joined Rinaldo and Rivaldo are the only players that have scored more than five goals in the same national team in a single World Cup edition. France will face the winner of the quarterfinals between Belgium and Spain in the semifinals on Tuesday in Dallas. Bro.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Hey, let me tell you something. Spain, Belgium play tomorrow. Belgium play Spain tomorrow, right? Now, I want you to see the difference on how far we are as a nation when it comes to soccer and the way it should be played at the highest level, especially on the biggest stage.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Now, you see how Belgium made us look when we play when they play the USA? Now watch how Spain makes Belgium look. Watch the difference. So you can see, and it gives you a better idea for those who don't watch soccer understand how far we have to go. Watch how Spain make them look
Starting point is 00:30:48 tomorrow at 4 o'clock. Y'all already know. Ibopi has three assists. He has three assists because he assisted them belly. Hey, hey, you see the goal Mbappe made when he had been that thing around that Moroccan player? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's amazing how they do that, man. Yeah, and Joe, listen, obviously it's all technique, right? But also the Moroccan player, because they're close and inside their team, You notice he can close, he can close out. What you call it in basketball?
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was scared to close out. I know what I'm saying, because the closer you get to Mbapé, he'd go right by you. So you got to keep some type of distance. Man, he curled that thing right on right. And that's the difference,
Starting point is 00:31:29 especially for us, for the Americans, we don't got guys who can win one-on-ones like that, bro. One-on-one with Mbpe, he's scoring that thing. Yeah, no. Joe, you notice every time you get the ball, the first thing you do, he face up whoever it is and go right at him. Go right at him.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Dembele could do the same thing. Hell, most of their players do the same thing. Even if it's two people, they'll manipulate the space, fake one way and go to the other and just go. Hey, we didn't have that one time in the game when we played against Belgium, not one. I think the thing is what I've noticed, every team's best player, they showed up. Yeah. If you go back and look at, look at Spain and look at Mexico,
Starting point is 00:32:11 call, you look at everybody team, for the most part, 90% of the time, their best player showed up. You look at Belgium, their best player, he showed up. You look at France, he shows up. Messi shows up. I mean, our best player? Zena was off the check. I mean, I mean, what's he at now?
Starting point is 00:32:30 28 million subs from 40 to 46 dollars. Probably. I mean, followers. Hey, listen. Yeah. Hey, our best player was Pulisic. And Pulisic, when he plays, at his club team in Italy.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I see him all the time. Face up and take eight. I see him face up and take people alone, Joe. I see him face up and take people alone all the time. So you're saying he can, he can, he can create in a little small type. Yeah. But what happened?
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah. What happened? Man, hold on, Pulistic fast as hell. But I don't understand. He was, he was playing. So he was playing so Timothy, he was playing scared. He lost the ball 11 times, Joe.
Starting point is 00:33:07 This ain't, this ain't, this ain't, this ain't, this ain't you soccer. And you soccer. You lose the ball 11 times. At the World Cup, okay, one or two mistakes. Okay, I get it. That happens. 11 times.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah. And all, and they knock, hey, they, hey, they, hey, um, they knocking him off the ball so easy. I'm like, ah, man. And then you hear him after the game so nonchalant. Oh my goodness. What? Even before the game, Joe, he took a,
Starting point is 00:33:32 and, oh Joe, he took all this time off. He wanted to rest. He wanted to be, you know, he wanted to be, you know, I want to be, you know, I want to be, you know, you know, refresh to, so I can go into the, the World Cup, bro, you should have kept playing. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about when he missed the Gold Cup.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Yeah, you're deciding out to pay the Gold Cup. Yeah. No, you can't do that, man. If you take time to rest, boy, hey, I'm expecting, I ain't say you got to be up there with him, Inbape and Messi, but I need you to have at least two or three, we'll leave three four goals. No. No, he's supposed to be our one impact player.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Obviously, we have other players, you know, that are good, but Pluilisic is, he's our star boy. He's our starboard. He just is. Some people in the chat will probably say, oh, he's not our best player. Okay, whatever you may say, he is our poster child. He is. So you expect him to show up in moments when we need him most because he looked good
Starting point is 00:34:21 against everybody else. He looked good against Power. Right. Hey. Hey. He looked good. All he had was an assist. If you go back and look at it, Belagon and Tillman were our best players.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They play well. They play well. Hey, man. Yeah. I know his levels to this, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Best player, best player on paper, best player playing. Those are two different things. So maybe he was our best player on paper. Maybe he was supposed to be our guy, but he wasn't. Yeah, I think he had to be hurt. Well, they said he hurt his leg against Belgium. But what about the other games before they play Belgium that he looked like stir fry? Okay, I get it.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Okay, they say he got a micro fracture or something like that. he's going to miss a couple of weeks. Okay, let's take, let's take him and the team at their word. He's hurt, he got hurt against Belgium. What about the other games? And we're going to give him a bill for the Dow and Joe, Joe. He's hurt. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:29 He got hurt against Belgium. But he didn't play well in any of the games. Belagun, like I said, Belagun and Timon were our best players. Yeah. Yeah. Well, hey, hey, boy, that's fools goal. But they had me going in first three games, though. About USA?
Starting point is 00:35:48 They had everybody going. What? In the group stage? Yeah, they had everybody going to. What, the way they look, I came on here. I'm hyped. I'm shocked. I'm like, I don't know who this is.
Starting point is 00:35:57 I'm watching. I ain't never seen them play like this. Boy, they got me. They got me good. They got me good. Oh, Cho, it was set up. Look at the bracket they had to come through. Yeah, the group stage, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Damn. I remember one year they had the group of death. Yeah, okay, yeah, you're not supposed to get out of that. Yeah. But this? Yeah. No, stop making excuses. If you're hurt, sit down.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Because guess what? All they see is that name on the back of the jersey. If you go out there half, nobody wants to hear about that. You don't get credit for what he hurt. Okay, so what? So what? You become a hero by doing something valiant while you're injured or while you're down. We'll get back to that in a second.
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Starting point is 00:38:47 like the co-founder of Rough Riders, Darren D. Dean. Talking about as a kid, do you remember that we met even way before that? Let me think. Did you walk up to the gate? That was me, Dee. That was you? That was me. The day we found out that you and the whole crew was at Hit Factory,
Starting point is 00:39:01 the mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyling and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping, and then suddenly I hear a voice, hey, open the gate, let him in. The gate slowly went, come, come, come, come, come. They all, they're watching this, and they watch me walk into there. And that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life. Listen, and laugh but not least with MC Jen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever You get your podcast. The World Cup is underway and it's been incredible.
Starting point is 00:39:29 On our podcast, The Away End with Danielle Alarcon and John Green, we're talking about the games that have delighted us, the teams that have inspired us, what we're loving and what surprised us, all to the lens of being massive fans of the world's most beautiful game. Daniel, this tournament has been magical so far. The expanded field of teams has created some incredible matchups that have already made this World Cup one to remember.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And now things get even more exciting with the intensity of the knockout rounds as the field is whittled down to one World Cup champion on July 19th. When you say it like that, I get a pain in my heart that the tournament is over, but there's a lot of soccer yet to go. And if the first few games of the round of 32 are any indication, anything is possible in the lead up to the final. We've got it covered from an ultra's perspective here on the away end.
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Starting point is 00:41:30 here he is, comes off a dominant, unanimous decision victory over Tia Fimo Lopez and the super lightweight title filed out Madison Square Garden in January, earned him a world championship
Starting point is 00:41:41 in his fourth way class further submitted his place among boxing, pound-for-pound elite, here he is, Shakur-Stevenson. Schakor, how you doing, bro? You muted.
Starting point is 00:41:53 You muted. You can't hear me? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got you. How you doing, bro? What up? Give us the good news.
Starting point is 00:42:04 What transpropso is reported that you're joining Zuffa boxing? Explain to our people in the chat and our listeners and our viewers. What is Zuffa? What is that? And what's your role in it now? Zufa is a company that's ran by Dana White and Nick Con. Nick Con does the WWE, but he's now with Zufa and Dana White is with U.S. but he's now entering boxing too.
Starting point is 00:42:30 So it's an amazing company. I mean, I'm the leader of the company. I'm the next, the biggest name with the company. And now that I'm here, it's like, shit, they got the best of the best with them. So it's all good now. What was your decision? What went in your decision?
Starting point is 00:42:49 Because like you said, it is a new company. And here you are, you got a championship in four different weight classes. Like you said, you are the biggest name. Normally are people that with big names. They're like, okay, let me, wait let me see how this thing shake out let me let me let him get all the kinks out and then once i see it's flourishing i'll go over there then why were you so willing to put your name in the situation
Starting point is 00:43:10 with a very very young company i mean first priority is um i love to get paid i love getting money so at the end of the day that's a lot of people said i wouldn't be in this position they said i was boring they said um my style is this but now that we hear uh i could sit here and tell you i um i told try so but other than that oh joe but other than that also i want the big fights and they got a big vision for me and uh they big vision was uh put me in the ring with the big guys like um the devon haynes the javanti tank davis and that's the shit that i live for that's the shit that i'm in boxing for and i can't wait to show my worth and listen i'm glad you said that i'm glad you called out two names uh obviously tank davis uh devon haney but the problem is and one for me being a
Starting point is 00:44:00 boxing purists and loving loving the sport loving you is one of one of my favorite fighters and being able to watch now that I know exactly what I'm watching being able to critique and analyze you round by round what is so difficult about making these fights happen why is it so difficult for obviously we know tank is having this issue but devon Haney I see you and him sometime go back and forth on on X most of the time why is it so difficult is there too too many moving parts is the money right the money not right what what's taking so long for for us as fans I don't think nothing that's taking so long no more. I think right now it's the right time. I think everything is in the cars of our favor.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And there's no excuses for why that fight can happen next. I think me and Devin should be the fight that happened next. I agree to 144 and he said he agreed to it. So now if he do his part, I'm going to do my part and let's make it happen. Why to catch away, do Shaquo? Why to catch away? Why not 40? I don't know if he can go back? down to 35, but why, why 44, why not 40 or 47? 40, I will be bringing him down and draining him, and then we would have excuses about why, um, you feel me so. And then, 147, he's, um, I'm not a 47 pound. I'm a 35 pound to naturally, like, I can still make 35 easily, but I'm willing to take
Starting point is 00:45:23 risk. Like, I don't give a fuck that he's going to get in the ring 20 pounds bigger. I'm going to beat him while he's 20 pounds bigger. And that's going to make my win even greater. So he agreed to 144. I agree to it. And now we're here. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And matter of fact, and also, if this doesn't happen right as soon, I'm not sure how long of a layoff you would like, how many times you want to actually fight this year, if Devin Haney and his pops and his team take too long, is there any else in mind that you would love the fight before the year? Yeah, I like the fighters like the Gary Russell, and the Lamont Roachians and honestly like speaking like I'm at a point in my career that I don't need nobody I don't need Devin Haney I don't need Javon Tec Davis I can make millions and millions of dollars now with Zoufa boxing and fight big names like Gary Antoine Russell and Lamar Roots I'm into the sport for this reason that now I'm I'm top dog now so it feels good I like I like you that. So you are the A side now. Obviously, the game is it's called prize fighting. And now you're in
Starting point is 00:46:36 a position where you're able to, you know, be the shot call and pick and choose who you want to fight. And man, here, I tell you, I'm excited. I'm excited for you. Congratulations. And I'm looking forward to whether it's Gary, whether there's tanks somewhere down the line or Devin Haney. I hope it happened before the year is out. Hey, hey, hey, Shakru, what's up, bro? I see you shining over the angel, man. Yeah, yeah. Hey, yeah. Take me. Take me. Take. Take Take me to fight night, bro. Take me to fight night. What goes through your mind, like the anxiety, you know, before you go out in the ring,
Starting point is 00:47:09 what you're telling yourself? You know, before, when you're taking that walk to the ring, what is it like? What's going through your game? Shit, I ain't going to lie. My last few fights, it felt like Destiny. I ain't really had too much anxiety. I wasn't too nervous. It felt like I was meant to be where I was supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And I let Destiny take care of itself. So, shit, I turn into a different mode come fight night. Like, shit, I know. It's either me or that guy. And you go watch my faith before the fight. You see my face, go look at Tio face. You just see who was going to win and who was going to lose. It was all written right over us.
Starting point is 00:47:43 So, man, I'm the best in the world. And I can't wait to show why I'm the best in the world. Under them bright lights, any of these guys get in front of me, I'm coming to perform. Let me ask you this. By you joining Zuffer, does it make it more difficult? Because people are going to say now, well, their side is going to say, well, we won't this. And your side is going to say, no, you can't have that because we got the A fighter.
Starting point is 00:48:09 You're the B fighter. Boxing don't work this way no more, man. That's bullshit. At the end of the day, unc. All of us is under one umbrella. All of us is with Turkey. Turkey brings all these guys in one room. When they have one room, we all can do business with one another.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So if anybody don't want to fight, they're scared to fight. And that's the guys on the street. Okay, that's what I like to hear, because these are the fights. And look, Ocho is our boxing officianto, but I grew up in the 80s and I remember the four kings. And I remember the 70s with all the heavyweights, they fought everybody. And then you had Sugar Ray and Herds and Duran and I ran Barclay and Mark, they fought everybody. You guys are in an era because like you said, yourself and Tank Davis and Russell and Roach and Haney, you guys should be fighting. And there's money to be made.
Starting point is 00:49:01 People want to see the best, fight the best, and then we get into terms of, hey, all I know in the 2020s, man, Taint and Shakur, boy, they got down. I've been told you all that I was one of the best fighters in the world. A lot of people ain't believe me. Well, now we're here. Opportunity is here.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And if any of these guys want to smoke with me, I'm right here. I'm not ducking shit. But Shakur, you saying that, let me ask you a question. If people had, if you had never saw, if Jordan had never played, and he says I'm the best basketball player,
Starting point is 00:49:33 would you have believed it? He had to show you. I agree with you. Or Shaq or Kobe says, I'm the best without showing it. You're not going to believe that. We got to see it. If the writing been on the wall the whole time,
Starting point is 00:49:44 and I showed it and y'all just ain't. I can't read. And then you blind and a motherfucker. You blind in a motherfucker. It already been there. Tio Fima was an example. I made an example out of him, and these guys are going to get examples made
Starting point is 00:49:57 of them too. Whatever we would like to hear, we like to see that fight. So if it is it possible we could get one of those, I know, also you mentioned it, could if there's something that we could get because you fought Tiofimo and I think January, is there possible we can get another fight say like September. 40 years out, I'm fighting. I do, I fight twice a year. That's what I do.
Starting point is 00:50:17 So before the years out, any of these guys, if they were, they ready to sign a dotted line, any one of them, I'm ready right this second. And the good thing about it is what I like about what Turkey's also done. And obviously Dana White and Zupa Boxing is the money's so good now that there should be no reason why the fight can't happen. So we can't. It's called prize fighting for the reason. And we have people in the game now that are paying these fighters to make these fights happen that we as fans want to see. So I'm excited, you know, brother Haney, Mr. Haney should be no reason.
Starting point is 00:50:52 You know, there's really no re-install. 144 it is. and let's get it on. You know, in the meantime, hey, we're in Las Vegas. Anyway, okay, okay. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:02 you got to go pay attention to them fights. You just, you know, you're kind of behind right now. Go watch some fights and it'll show you everything you need to see.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I'm a Tici. I'm a Tici. You don't know what you're looking at. I'm not seeing. I think the thing is that we're saying what you, there's something getting lost in translation. I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:51:22 that you're not a great fighter, that you're not a champion. I'm not saying that. that but I think people won't and you do a great job of hitting and not getting here but I think sometimes people want to see you put yourself in harm's way and get down and I'm not saying look and that's what you have to do sometimes when you step in that ring you're going to have to when you step in that ring you're in harm's way I disagree with that that's because that's you never put on the boxing gloves in your life okay go ahead if you put on the boxing gloves before you'll
Starting point is 00:51:55 understand that when you step in that motherfucking square circle, you're in harm's way. And when you go watch my last fight since you saying, I don't put myself in harm's way, who was backing up? Me and Tio. But you back him up. Who's backing up?
Starting point is 00:52:12 You back him up. So I wasn't I in harm's way. Hey, you said you said you was going to do that too. I asked the question, I wasn't I in arms way. You weren't, but when I think, answer the question.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I never thought you could I didn't think you could lose the Tia Fimo now if you back up tank you back up Haney you back up those guys I'm gonna come on here say Ocho he made me he proved me to be alive I said he wasn't you wouldn't you wouldn't have never bet no money that I was gonna be Tia Fimo the way did I yes I would the way did I beat him no no no no I would ain't nobody ain't nobody get to but if you beat him bad ain't nobody better 11 to one you would go win the fight it's your court I can't I don't think
Starting point is 00:52:58 I don't think maybe a prize pick a polymarker to somebody and say well how bad is he going to beat him and well he's going to beat him this bad and then let me be bad but I would have bet money that you would have won't they said I was going to run who rain?
Starting point is 00:53:12 But if you if you win it doesn't at the end of the day if you win but for me I think for me I'm just like I've seen guys your size fight I may weather coming up through the ranks and with flooring people until his hands became brittle
Starting point is 00:53:26 and I watch Sugar Ray and I watch and Hurons and I watch What I'm confused about is now it sound like you're down playing Tio. Like it sounds like this is a downplaying like who Tio is. I mean, Tio then showed you how great he is in other fights. Why wasn't he that great that night? I'm not saying he's not great. And we could talk about the way that you fight.
Starting point is 00:53:48 No, I'm not into hitting and being hit. If that's what you're asking me, I won't do that. I will hit and don't get him. Are you, are you, so, so are you trying to be. Are you trying to be when they talk about lightweight and super lightweights and junior welder weights? Are you trying to be in that shirt rate?
Starting point is 00:54:06 I'm not comparing myself to none of these do. I'm trying to be the first Shakur, Stevenson. You're going to at the end of my career, you're going to say, you're going to say, why was his fight so easy? Why wasn't he hurt? Why was, why are? Because I'm that great.
Starting point is 00:54:21 That's what you're going to say. We're not saying that you're not great, Shakur, but I don't believe, and this is me, this is my opinion. Joe has his opinion. Ocho believes the dope you hung the moon. I don't believe that you're going to get the credit you deserve without knocking people out.
Starting point is 00:54:36 That's why you never boxed before. That's not boxing. That's how I know you never boxed before. Floyd, maybe you could talk about Floyd Mayweather. You could say the guys that he knocked out, but in the telling his prom, he wasn't just knocking guys out. This is not true. No, because the hands got brittle.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Exactly. I got hand problems too. What's the difference? I didn't know that. My bad. Everybody know that. That's why you ain't been doing your homework. You've got to do your homework.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Hey, but hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I mean, listen, I love boxing, Joe. I'm sure you watch it. You watch it as well. But boxing is more than just knockouts. Now, knockouts, being able to have it is really good. Like being a slugger and baseball and hitting home runs. The fans love it.
Starting point is 00:55:17 But most of the time, when it comes to some of the greats, that's not all boxing is. They call it the street science for this. Oh, you're just not in tune, man. It's just not in tune. You got to get in tune. I'm in tune. You didn't do your homework, you got F's on your homework, man. You got all F's.
Starting point is 00:55:32 You got all. I grew up in, but you can't, you can't say just because I don't like your style that I don't know why. You don't. I grew up in an era with sugar rating that was knocking people out. You just told me that I don't put myself in harm's way by getting in the ring. That's what you told me. That let me know that you don't do your homework. But you talk about one fight.
Starting point is 00:55:50 You talk about Tiafilo. Any fight. What about all the other fight? I'm not, hold of all these guys. I was wondering one thing. Am I the only one that's ever said that about your fighting style? A lot of people that don't know boxing say that. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Am I the only one? You can use a public opinion for talk to you. No, no. Are you the only casual that said this? No, you are not. Are you the only casual that said this? No, you are not. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:56:15 So no other fighter has said that about your fighting style, that they're not happy with your fighting style. You know what I mean? Frays my fighting style? You know what I mean? Fighters wish they could fight like me? I know, hold, hold, hold on. Can I talk.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Oh, can I talk? You know how many people go home with, wait, wait, wait, wait, got to go to the doctor, got to go get their brain checked out, got to go. They wish they could do what I do. They prayed, like, I wish I had them skills. If I had them skills, they will go home to their family safely. You know what I'm people?
Starting point is 00:56:45 People don't go to their family safely, on. So no boxer, no boxer, no guy that's ever fault, has said anything that I've said about your fighting style. You are you asking a subjective question? I can't tell you. I'm telling you that you sound like a subject. Why are you getting so upset with me? I'm not saying. We're debating.
Starting point is 00:57:04 We're having a good debate. I've called you 100 times. That may I look at you like the hump, right? So I got respect for you. I got respect for you. I got respect for you. But I don't got respect for that. Do your homework and stop getting eggs.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Huh? You said you're getting abs. You got an F on all your homework. You said, okay. It's hard for me to believe all the fighters that I can remember that people put a place up high were entertaining. They put that they had to talk. And I'm not saying that you got to put yourself where you get knocked to do. Some fans that enjoy the sport of boxing, I'm very entertaining.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Hey, hey, Ocho, Ocho, am I entertaining? Yeah. Hello. You got to pull, you've got to be able to pull the non-boxing fan in, you know, Cork. You get those, you already got those. Those guys. You already got the box of the man. I'm fighting for millions of dollars, man.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I don't have to do nothing but go to in there and do my job. Okay. What you do? Appreciate you, man. That's what I love doing. My job, man. Hey, you can't, can we talk about something more important? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:14 What's that? When the fuck? Oh, man, you are? You've been ducking me. You heard me. I'm talking you. I'm talking about you. I'm talking to.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Hey, you, you're in Vegas, right? I'm in Vegas. When, when, when, I'm in Vegas right now. I'm in Vegas right now. You were supposed to, first of all, you and Joe was supposed to be out here this week because Connor McGregor fight on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And I'm going to be at the fight. And I'm going to be at the fight. Hey, I think your unks are getting the ring. Man, I don't want to do that to himself. He won't. Hey, hey, hey, he too small. You know, he too small. I see.
Starting point is 00:58:52 You know, you throw a punch in your life. I know. You haven't gotten to a fight. A one 30. Hey, hook, have you ever got it to a fight? Yeah, I've got to a fight. But a street fight on the boxing match is something entirely different, Shkour. The Tomlin.
Starting point is 00:59:11 It ain't no rule. There are rules in boxing. The Tomlin. A boxing fight lasts 36 minutes. You fighting a street fight for a minute top. 30 seconds. Exactly. All of.
Starting point is 00:59:25 All of this thing ain't going to disduring. You're not going to land shit on me. You ain't going to do it. Oh, you are. Oh, Joe, you heard what he's saying? This thing is 36 minutes. Ain't no rules in street fighting. Ain't no rules in street fighting.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I ain't got that kind of enduring, Shakur, I'm 508. I got kids over to you. I can't go that. I'll tell you now. Ain't no rules. Hey, hey, Shakur, it sounds like Unks say here. That's what it sounds like to mean. No chance.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Hey, Shakur, I would tell you like this. Go ahead and get turkey money. Go ahead and get turkey money. Go ahead and get turkey money. You got a promise a career. That shit will end. I promise you that shit would be end. I'll whoop your ass.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Ain't no way. MMA. I'll fold your ass up like a lawn chair. I guarantee you won't. I part of the knees. The knees? What don't need? I don't need's feel.
Starting point is 01:00:26 You won't ever know. You can't keep it on you, Your Honor. Shakur, Shakur, you in a great spot. You just signed with Zumpur. Don't miss your money, huh? Hey, up. You will never see that money.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Keep it on you, man. Hey, I got to see this, man. We got to set it up, man. You got to set it up. You just said you ain't got no problem making 140. If you ain't got no problem making 140, you probably walk around somewhere between 38 and 45. I'm going to take up.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I know. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. There's a hostile takeover. I'm not. I'm not. I'm going straight to your knees.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I'm going straight to I'll tell you that. But see, that's your mistake because you got to get close. You ain't got no reach like that. You're going to try to get close to me. And he got that jab. Hey, she could. He got 30 seconds.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I'm going to let you. You got 30 seconds. And you're 30 seconds, you got to get rid of the fight. If, as long as I don't engage, I'm going at your knees. I know you go, I know you going to try. And I'm just waiting. I'm telling you now.
Starting point is 01:01:28 You too small. I'm going at your knees. To do what? It's final. I could. You know what I'm not going to your spine? Huh? Ha!
Starting point is 01:01:44 Nah, cheer, leave it luck. I could do. I just call that at 5, 4, 130? Just chill, just chill, look. I don't fuck with you, man. I do it, I do it for charity. I get the ring. You won't do that.
Starting point is 01:01:59 You won't do that. Now, let me do, let me know. No, no, no. Don't let him duck me. No, I'm saying the ring. I'm talking about the streets. I'm talking about we got cars, we got parking lights, and all that. Trash bag.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Same day. Same day. Hold on. Same day. Well, you better get Ocho first. No, you would go first. Hey, hold on. You go first.
Starting point is 01:02:23 If he, if he go with me first, he definitely is not going to make it to you. I'm not going to you up. Oh, you're going to be talking about Ocho. Hey, don't knock out of you. Hey, Ocho. I still say, Saad, I don't want no smoke at you. No, no, no, no, no. I still owe me a sparring session.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Oh, show. Okay, hey, hold on, running, run it clock, run it clock. What you mean? Running clock. I want the, I don't want the clock on him, just a running clock. So you want to, you, you're, you're tripping. No, you're, no, you're scared. You told, you told me before that you didn't even want to spar as many minute rounds
Starting point is 01:03:02 as I wanted to spark. No, I'm, no, I'm saying. Did you not say that? I don't want, no, it's not a run-in-clock. You ain't telling you to get tired? No, I'm saying, I always use a running clock. No, I'm saying I always use a running clock. That man say you want to, hey, let's part 10-minute rounds.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Huh? Okay, cool, back. We could do three of them. Three 10-minute rounds. I bet you won't last. Hold on, I'm, I'm dictating the pace. I don't care what you do. I don't care about you pressure.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I bet you won't last. I bet you're all right. Look, we could. We do. I know what it is. Okay. All right. Ocho, I'm going to let Ocho.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I'm going to let go Ocho Hellet. Cutter you ain't in my way. I'm kicking the shit out of your knee. You ain't going to walk no more. You, hey, I would, I would, it already see right. Man, you, you, you jump on Shikou. I'm going to be a quarter of a DECB.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Just chill, man. This is street fighting, man. We're not talking boxing. I am not just a box. I am from New Jersey. You better ask him about me. Hey, them. Them ninjas get knocked out too.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I don't know why y'all think y'all from New York and Jersey think y'all can't get forward. Where are you from? I'm from Georgia. G8. Glennby. I ain't a country in North South Georgia. We'll be on the map if I whip your ass.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I'm gonna'am. We got two Hall of Famers, but I'll be the one to whip you, your first loss. You're gonna need more than no steroids, man. There ain't no steroids here, bro. Don't short change me. Don't you change my heart work. You see?
Starting point is 01:04:54 You see what you're trying to do on your show? He's trying to shortchange my work. Come on. Let his ass come to be proud of. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, it feels like steroids, steroid, EPO, growth hormone, all that.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I'm fucking with you. Man, I'm fucking with you. I'm just playing, man. Y'all good, right. Hey, um, do your homework, man. I said, hey, you're going to the fight? You go to the fight? I'll be there.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I'll be there. I'll go. I can't wait to see. Hey, you got one for me up. I'm pulled up. Hey, I call the guy tomorrow. I can't wait to see you, go on. I hit you up, Joe.
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Starting point is 01:09:38 is the reality of the show you know. You know, you're not with my rodoc you're going to you're going to
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Starting point is 01:10:03 or whatever you Yeah, you're for this. First of all, I ain't bringing no stem stool. How are we going to do a face off? That man be looking at my belly button. Oh, man. Come on, that was me. That was sweet.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Come on, oh, Cho. Hold on. That was sweet. Hey. Hey, man, hey, hey. You know what? I'm going to go to watcho. I don't got too old to hustle.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Ocho, go spot this man. Give him one round for 10 minutes, lump him up. And that we're going to, we're going to have a fact. We're going to have to clue there. We're going to fill the whole thing. Yeah. I got my money on Shikr. You wouldn't bet no money on.
Starting point is 01:10:40 I put my money on Ocho. Damn, Joe! Yeah, I got it. Yeah, I know Ocho. I know. Joe. Joe, you know, I've been boxing for 10 years now, Joe. How are you going to bet on this?
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yeah, I love you like a play cousin, Ocho, but I got to keep it 100. You know what I mean? I don't think you're going to be Shikor, bro. Ocho going to smother. Joe, Joe, Joe, I've been studying Shikour like a, like a goddamn professor. I know every move by the way. Hey, um, bet some money on it. Hey, I'm taking on Joe.
Starting point is 01:11:08 How much? Make it light on yourself. Whatever y'all want. 10? 10 bands. 10 bands? I'll take a honey. Damn.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah, me and Chicoor. How are you feeling, Ocho? Hey, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. Hey, you know what? You know what? I'm going to do your favor. I'm going to sit in the pocket the whole day.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Damn. Damn. Hey, you been doing your sit up. Hey, Chacore, I didn't study you. You've been doing your set up? I'm studying you to a team. You got to stop being McDonald's, though, man. You got to leave that shit alone.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I've been studying you too. I've been studying you too. Stop eating McDonald's and you might have a better chance. Man, no, no, I'm going to have a chance regardless. I'm going to lump you up. I'm not going to win. Hey, he'd be in the gym every day. You're cool.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I'll be in the gym every day. He know that. He know that. You ain't know a gym like me. Do your homework, man. I keep trying to tell you how to do y'all. I'm not doing your homework, man. Go ask about you.
Starting point is 01:12:14 You. If you say you be in the gym more than me, you don't do your homework. No. I'm going to say. You won't even go on when I was in a gym. That's your thing about. But he is in the gym. He'd be putting his time in.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I don't know if he'd be smart or what he was a mess. I'm in that bitch for hours. Like, I don't, I don't get out. Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm. You know, an hour. An hour. Not hours. That ain't sure.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Hour. Yeah. Hey, I work. Hey, hey, I spar on Friday. Hey, man, listen. Make some of my in Florida. I'm going to leak up with you. Take someone in Florida.
Starting point is 01:12:50 I link up with you. He's scared. You don't want to come to the fight. Where's home? Where's home? Where's home? You said, where's home? Yucin.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yeah, for you. Houston. Oh, okay. Oh. Oh, that's, hey, hey. There it is. Hey, hey, hey. You can take another Houston.
Starting point is 01:13:07 You can take another Houston trip. Look, man. Hey. Hey, before you get in the ring with me, ask Ronnie Shields about me what I do to all this fighters. Hey, who do you sparred at Ronnie Seals, Jill? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Name one fighter and you sparred did. Call it. Both Charlo. Both Charlo. You act like you put his hands on Charlo. You ain't putting no hands on Charlo. No, but I'm in the ring with him. What do you tell him?
Starting point is 01:13:33 He took a couple of blows from it. Charlo would be your ass. They don't worry about it. Hey, Anna, I'm going to put your ass down. Damn. Don't be bad at me you can't try. Oh, Joe, you can't, you can't fight you, you can't fight you boy now. No, it's just, pretty smart.
Starting point is 01:13:50 I think he's my jab. Yeah, yeah, we can. Hold on, what are you going to use your jam? That's all I need. Damn, she- Let him, he's going down. Hey, he's going down. For one, I'm going on the phone.
Starting point is 01:14:03 He's going down. Jeremy, you have, I'm going to be on the, hey-oh, he'll put him down with a body shot. He's going down. Trust me. He's going down. We got the same, we got the same defense. He said we got the same defense. He's not going to be able to hit nothing. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:14:25 What? But also, he'll be paring punches. He's like, hey, he's, hey, he's, shooting it down. Hey, I'm, I'm blocking Perry and getting that, make it that shit about it. And I'm going to talk to you to all. I'll put one glove. on. Okay. I'm going to get your ass, now.
Starting point is 01:14:45 You're trying. I put one glove. So we can't, but all seriousness, I mean, we appreciate your time tonight, but we can't expect you to be in the ring at some time before the end of the year. Yeah, for sure. I'm in the ring before the end of the year, for sure.
Starting point is 01:15:00 So one of the four fighters, is he's going to be tank, it's going to be Haney, it's going to be Russell, or it's going to be Roach. It's going to be one of those four fighters. Yes, that's what I want, yes. Okay. Yeah. I like this.
Starting point is 01:15:12 I like it. I like it. I like it. Now, I just want you to know the nightcap crew gonna beat it. Yo, I want you to ever bet against me. That's what I want. I want you to bet against me. No.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Why would I do that? Okay. Oh, you scared. I ain't going to buy to you now. You get it up with tank. I might have to put a little put a little paper on paint. Can you bet me? I want to do.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Can you put the paper with me? Yeah. Oh, so we're going to be locked. Perfect. Yeah. I bet. Perfect. I don't really like to bet no money, but I don't know more.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Say no more. I bet you. I bet you. Say no more. I like it. Hey, come on. Hey, I need to put a call in the take. Anybody got a tank number?
Starting point is 01:15:58 Stay no more, man. Just make sure you bet me. That's all I ask. Oh, I don't, I don't bet no book. I don't really bet. I mean, me and Ocho, we have. I want real money, though. Don't play around with it.
Starting point is 01:16:09 I want real money. Hold on. Money. What you mean? Like something like you got real faith in that person. But here's the thing. The problem with betting is that it's just like anything else when you bet. You don't really control the outcome.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Somebody else is. No, but I'm betting against you. So I control the outcome. But I ain't in the ring. But it's about what you believe in. What you believe. I believe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I'm a bet you. No. But are you going to bet, bat, bat, bat. Me. Not just bat me. Bet bet bet. I'm going to bet you. Bet, bet me.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Oh, Lord. He wants to, he won't, he wants, I want to dig into your pockets. What are you thinking more like 40, 50K? She, I think more than that. Damn. Damn. Well, hey, when that time you fight take, we'll come up with something. We'll come up something to make it work while.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Appreciate you. Perfect. I get, hey, give me 10, give me 10%. I'm telling that. Cool, give me 10%. Now, I'm just saying, because when you win, it's going to be because of me. I told you you're good.
Starting point is 01:17:15 You come to camp anytime. Nah, hey, see, there you go. There you go to court. Don't brain that black cat in your camp. Why? He's good energy. I don't been to camp with him before. He worked.
Starting point is 01:17:26 See? I'd be doing this for real. Oh, I believe you. I mean, everybody just came on here. You go to the camp. Hey, yep, get my head. Beat the fuck up. It's all good, though.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Where your head gear? You say. You play you have from head. Everything right here in the garage. Put my glove, Jack. He's pulling out that little one glove on the man. Hey, hey. You see, hey,
Starting point is 01:17:56 Hey, it's Shakur. Yeah, okay. Oh, you got the winnings. Oh, that's Everland. That's Everland. Oh, that's Everland. Okay. Is that what you trade?
Starting point is 01:18:08 You fighting? Now, I'm fighting rival. You fight a rival. You fight a what? Riber. Okay. I ain't never heard of it. I just heard of Everlast winning.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Does anybody fight in Reyes anymore? Reyes gloves? No, I don't like those. I think most of the Mexicans fighting them. Yeah. Mexican fighters. Yeah, that's, yeah. Do a real punch, huh?
Starting point is 01:18:35 Throw a real punch. Hey, I'm Captain Hook number two. Let me see a real punch, though. Let me see, like, let me see one of these, a little shadow box. Hey, uh-uh, no, I ain't going to give you no cute, because will you run a bunch? Let me see stuff. Let me see. You gonna see it?
Starting point is 01:18:56 Let me see it. What the hell was that? What's this? What's this? Let me see. Oh, that's your, hey, think about this. I know what the nigger's pump figure. I know where the nigger pump, man.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Don't punch. That's a, I want to see a punch thaw. That's your whole face, you cool. That's from ear to ear. Don't punch. I hit you. Don't punch. Huh?
Starting point is 01:19:16 A uppercut. I don't even throw no. You're going to beg me to stop. An uppercut or a hook. You go beg to stop. I got them. Damn, man. Now I know you bluffing.
Starting point is 01:19:28 You're telling me you bluffing. Let me see, let me see it a little. Loose lady. Like, you ain't got nothing. See, hey, all that right there, I'm coming through that guard. That little stuff right now. For real. I'm eating that up.
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