Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Shedeur Sanders Gets WIN & DOESN’T RECEIVE Game BALL + Raiders FIRE Chip Kelly + Eagles FUMBLE WIN vs Cowboys

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to a wild day of Sunday football! The Los Angeles Rams blow out the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday Night Football, Shedeur Sanders makes h...is first NFL start for the Cleveland Browns and go to Las Vegas to beat the Raiders, the Dallas Cowboys overcome a 21 point deficit to beat the Philadelphia Eagles and much more! 04:30 - Rams beat Buccaneers7:34 - Browns beat Raiders48:38 - Cowboys beat Eagles (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:59 They were clicking on all cylinders from an offensive standpoint, and then when they fell behind, they could hunt those two edge rushers and that great front four that the Rams normally have going all the way back to the fearsome for some with Merlin Olson, Deacon Jones, Lamar Lundy, and the great Rosie Greer. They got after Baker, they got after Teddy Bridgewater, and they went going away. They scored 31 points in the first half,
Starting point is 00:06:22 and they cruise in the second half, only scored three, but that was all they needed because the bucks didn't score at all. No. So watching this game, Matthew Stafford, 25 or 35, 273, two touchdowns. They didn't run the ball particularly well. 19 carries for 70 yards. Puka, seven catches, 97 yards. Excuse me, Devante Adams, five for 62, two tubs.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Parkinson had four for 41 and a touchdown. But when you look at this team, they can run it with Kyron Williams and Blake Corp. We know they can throw it with Bucca and those weapons that they have and Matthew Stafford at the helm. Ocho, what is it like what you like so much about when you watch the Rams, you watch them play? And they do this every single week. So this is not an aberration or anything like that or an anomaly.
Starting point is 00:07:09 This is who they are. This is what they do. Listen, this is the importance of having a quarterback, this is important to have them a quarterback. Obviously, consider the gunslinger at MVP, a Super Bowl winning quarterback. And you can make a team one. dimensional they couldn't run the ball but they threw that motherfucker all over i'm sorry they threw the
Starting point is 00:07:28 ball all over the place they did what they wanted to do puka puka eden devante listen to i'm not even sure what was tember bay doing why are they leaving devonty adams singled up over there and man the man knowing goodwill ain't nobody can be able to stick with him he he's scoring touchdowns all over the place making it look easy and making it look really easy especially if you watch it if you watch it from TV like well god damn is you know he go hit you also they know he go hit him with that pause every every time and they but hey listen and once you relax once he hits you with that head he once you relax take off it's a done it's a done deal but by outside of that man they they look
Starting point is 00:08:08 really good man they look really really good really sharp um Matt Stafford is good um the man didn't man didn't play in he he didn't even have he didn't go to training camp No. He didn't even go to training camp. So to be able to come out of here and play like this all season long, you know, they're 9 and 2 now, right? 92, best record in the NFC. Hey, they're going to be here to deal with, boy.
Starting point is 00:08:33 They're going to be here to be coming out of their NFC now. Because Seattle looked good. I mean, that division, you got them, you got Seattle, and you got the 49ers. The 49ers have the best record within the division. They're 4 and 1 in the division. Yeah. So they have the best record.
Starting point is 00:08:50 They just don't have the best overall record. They did get Purdyback. Christian McCaffrey is healthy. They're doing a lot with Kittal and Iyuk. It's going to be interesting when they get Pierce all back if he's coming back. Defensively, they're trying to, you know, trying to mix and match. They were out there two best players, Fred Warner and Nick Bosa. But they're making it for somehow, somehow, some way, they're making it work.
Starting point is 00:09:14 But the Rams make light work of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers tonight, run their record to nine and two, thanks to a 34-7 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa falls to six and five. Baker Mayfield was injured in the ball game. Obviously, he's going to probably get an MRI and see what's going on with that shoulder. Hopefully it's not something that's long term, but Tampa, Tampa looked, didn't look good tonight. They couldn't run the football. They didn't throw the ball. They didn't really do anything well, and that has a lot to do with the Rams, not so much of what they didn't do. But the Rams put so much pressure, they apply so much pressure out the gate.
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Starting point is 00:15:16 back into the league in 1999. He also became the first Browns quarterback to win his first career start in the NFL since Eric Zeyer did it back in 1995. The victory ended a 17 game losing streak for Browns in games in which the quarterback was making their first career start. That was the longest streak by any franchise since. 1950 when quarterback starts were first recorded. The win snapped a 13 game road losing streak for the Browns,
Starting point is 00:15:45 which was also the longest active streak in the NFL and their second longest in franchise history. Chador was 11 of 20, 20, 209 yards with one touchdown and an interception. He was, look, they didn't run the football worth nothing. 27 rushes, 67 yards. Yeah. But Ocho, his ability, and he's looking, the thing that you have to like about him,
Starting point is 00:16:07 he's looking to push the ball down the field. He realized I don't catch big fish fishing round the short. Right. I need to cast way out there. You see, he rolls out of the pocket, throws it over the top. He's going to give those guys an opportunity to make plays. I was very impressed with him, and I know what everybody said. It wasn't nobody but the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:16:26 But had they lost, he was going to say, well, he can't beat the Raiders. How is he going to beat this team, that team? Well, we won't know how we'll do against this team or that team, because we know the team that he played today. He put butts in him. Go ahead on Joe. Well, listen, I'm a, I'm a, it was a Raiders. It was rated, but what I saw from his door tonight, I mean, tonight, it looked good.
Starting point is 00:16:50 There's, there's room for improvement. There's some, there's some things that he could do well. He would also need his supporting cast to help him out. Jerry Judy. I know you want a dead leg, baby, but just go ahead and get, hey, young boy, just go ahead and get out of bounds, get them yards. There were some throws. Sudeau would probably want to have back, especially that interception, you know, staring down,
Starting point is 00:17:11 staring down that stick route right away at the snap of the ball. Outside, especially when you can't run the ball. I mean, you can't run the ball and it's more dimensional. It's very, very difficult. It's very, very difficult. But they were able to pull the win off. I'm sure Sador is probably not happy. Glad he got the win.
Starting point is 00:17:30 But there's a lot of stuff you can go back and look at and he'll watch film and see where he can improve on, improve in certain areas. and I like the fact that he not only got a start, he made history today, he made history today, and he gets to build on that going into next week. I'm not sure what's going to happen with Defansky, if Dylan Gabriel's healthy, if he's going to be the starter or not, you know how stuff like that is up in the air.
Starting point is 00:17:53 So I like the way he looked at the day. I mean, I'm excited for him. I'm excited for him because the offense looked different. It just looked different. They had a bounce about them. If you think about it, And the defense did their part. They sacked Gino Smith ten times, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:18:09 It was ten? Ten. Miles Garrett had three. Miles Garrett has 18 sacks with six games to play. You need five more, right? Five more to break your record. If you keep singling him, he's going to get 30. He's got 13 sacks in his last four games.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah. He gets in that sprint of stance. He gets down like a track and get down on all fours. Yeah. He's coming to hunch the quarterback. But I like the fact that Shadoo was looking to push the ball down the field. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And I think that's what they needed. Guys, because haven't been a receiver, bro, I want to get down the field. Yeah. I want to, hey, throw the ball. Look, I want to catch the ball. But all this shallow cross and all these bubble screens and all that. But come on, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:56 It's hard to methodically go down the field, Ocho. You know, and we're going to talk about this, the chiefs going down the field. They had 13, 17, 12, and they kick him. field goals but it's hard especially when you got a young quarterback yeah and to ask him to be perfect tom brady could play like that that's tom brady yeah he's not going to make those mistakes but you're asking a first or second year guy young quarterback to say okay we want you to be basically we end up being somewhere of 25 or 33 for 275 yards three touchdown nah you're asking him to do too much let him take some chances and i thought you do or did a great job
Starting point is 00:19:34 getting outside the pocket. On the one day scored on Ocho, he did a great job. He goes back. He's holding the safety just like this here. And then the last second he turns. And so by the time the guy catches and gets up, the safety is like, hold on.
Starting point is 00:19:49 If I come down hill, I ain't gonna get there. So let me try to get him at a, no, I ain't gonna be able to get him. Because basically when he hit that scene, Mocho, yeah, it was good night, Irene. Yeah, it was a rap. Yeah, it was. But level to 20,
Starting point is 00:20:04 I mean, and he was like, hey, that's one week of starting. Imagine when I get an off-season. Yeah. Imagine when they call plays specifically for me. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Imagine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Who's that? All the people. But I thought he played really well. I thought he was really poised. I thought I know it was great to see his dad was in attendance. And Tyne was like, well, man, you know good well, time wasn't missing that one for nothing in the world. They could have been played.
Starting point is 00:20:33 If Colorado had a game today, Yeah. Tide would have like, man, you know, hey, I ain't feeling too well. It would have snuck out here to Vegas to watch his son. And that was great because, you know, this is really the first time that his dad's not coaching it. His dad's not around. Pick it up the phone is one thing. But being able to have a conversation face to face is something entirely different.
Starting point is 00:20:58 But I was really, really pleased with the way he played. I thought he threw the ball really, really well. Isaiah Bond did a great job. Samson, what he called that, yeah, that longed, that 66 yarder. Like you said, Jared, Judy. Bro, did you think he was like, I mean, he was just oblivious, like, ain't nobody behind me. Hey, he, he, he, listen, I don't, I don't know what Judy would think about.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I don't know how you forget about the goddamn backside support, but you know, Pursuit, you know they coming now. You, you know they coming. Hey, listen, I'm not sure he was, it was three defenders in front of him. Yes. Hey, he would get ready to dead leg somebody. I, I, I know the set. But you got to understand.
Starting point is 00:21:36 You got to have self-awareness. Understand your surroundings, man. Get that thing, get out, make a business decision, or take your ass out of bounds, one or the other. Yeah, yeah. Get out of bounds. But look, I know the receivers are happy because he's giving them opportunity to make plays over the top.
Starting point is 00:21:52 All that shallow cross and bubble screens and all that. We've talked about earlier, Ocho. This gives him an opportunity to push the ball down the field and give them an opportunity to make some big plays. After the game, Kevin Stefansky was non-committal of the starting quarterback for next Sunday's home game against the 49ers. Ocho, the video has gone viral online. Here's Stefansky handing out game balls in the locker room after the game.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Stayed resilient together, like I told you, we needed to, right? Stay resilient together, and we fought together. How about Gage's big punt return on special team? How about Corey, every single time we're out there pinning those guys doing your job? Good job! Great! Cornwall! Offense wasn't perfect, wasn't perfect.
Starting point is 00:22:40 How about that big play by Sam at the end? Oh, yeah. That's not. Huge play, Q, huge play. Harold making a big play, and then another rookie making his first start. Nice job, Shadour. Well done. There's that old saying, save the best for last.
Starting point is 00:22:58 How about that f***ing defense before? Oh, yeah. Holy is what I have to say about that. 10 sacks by our defense. Okay? I got one ball in my hand. I got a guy, he's got to get a cold every week, okay? He had a cold this week, wasn't feeling self.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Three sacks, which gives him 18 on the season through 11 games through 11 games, which breaks his own Brown's record, Miles Garrett. Come on, man. So I'll see you guys in tomorrow. Hey, I'll see you Wednesday! I remember the days. So hold on, a guy making his first start, a guy that you didn't really want to start.
Starting point is 00:23:46 A guy that you didn't want in your organization. Right, right. And that's all he get. Great job. He don't get no game ball? No, he don't get no game ball, un. That won't his pick. That's not what they won't.
Starting point is 00:23:57 They don't want him to succeed. You know that. I know, no disrespect. The owner told you, the only told you to himself, even the head coach, the head coach guy, the head coach's guy is Dylan Gabriel. We all understand that. Listen, didn't, didn't you do it make history tonight? Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:11 First round, first round quarterback as a rookie to start and win after what? Since what? 17. I mean, you got to think about, Ocho, they've had 42 starting quarterback since 1999. Right. No quarterback making his first start. Yeah. The last 17 has said, we didn't do get it.
Starting point is 00:24:28 they didn't get it done. Yeah. Well, listen. That isn't worth the game ball, Ocho? It's clear as day now. It's clear as day. Like, I mean, we've been going back and forth
Starting point is 00:24:37 about this over and over, the nitpicking the here and there. People say, oh, they hate, they're not hating. Oh, Dylan Gables. Listen, all that, we know what the play is. The writing is on the wall. It's always been in the wall.
Starting point is 00:24:47 When the owner came out and said what he said about this not being my pick, this is brother, Drew Barry, Drew Barry, right? Is that you said? Andrew Barry. Andrew Barry, excuse me. Andrew Barry, it was his pick.
Starting point is 00:24:57 It was his idea. I mean, we know what it is. You know, the odds are stacked against you. The odds are stacked against you. When the opportunity presents itself, he has to go out there and do what he did. Do what he did. The odds was stacked against him.
Starting point is 00:25:10 He went out there, had a good game today. Much, much more room for improvement. But he gave him an opportunity to win. He allows him to have a different style of offense of play calling when he's out there playing. And that's all he can do. Oh, Joe, I ain't, I ain't say you got to get a man a car. I ain't say that.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I ain't say you got to pick the man up on you. I ain't saying the team need to pick him up on his shoulders and carry him off the field. But that little bit, oh, you're talking about big time. Hold on. And this is not a knock on you, Harold Fanon. So please don't take it this way. He had four catches for 40 yards.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I mean, he made two big, I mean, Chatur played his ass off. Remember 20, yay, had an interception. I thought he was very good. I thought he was very good with his eyes. I thought he was very good with his feet. Everything was attached. And that's all you got for the man.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Miles Garrett deserved five. All the football that you brought to Cleveland, give him to him. Say, so we're going to ship all four in these damn footballs to your house in Cleveland. Miles Garrett, whatever Miles Garrett won't. As a matter of fact, Miles, you're on the page. Take your ass back in there getting more. Hey, you need to get 50 million.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And he'll get this record as long as the Browns are able to keep the game. game close. Yes. Where teams can't just run, run the ball. Right. Excuse me. Excuse me. As long as long, you see they got five last week.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Why? Oh, yeah. Because for the large part, a large portion of the game, they had to lead. So if the team got to lead on what you got to do, Ocho. They got to throw the ball. Right. You see what happened tonight. They jumped out on 14, another 143.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Now you got to plan. You came, first of all, your run game is not good enough, and your offensive line is not good enough to blow people off the ball. So you got to throw it. Right. and they got a good enough defensive line that you can't just double I'm doubling Miles Garrett
Starting point is 00:27:03 somebody else might get three sacked but it ain't gonna be him yeah because he's a guy that you game playing Ocho we go on there on Wednesdays they got him circle he got red ink around him this is the guy that if we don't block he gonna tear our ass up
Starting point is 00:27:16 he will destroy our game playing run or pass with that being said that man couldn't flip you doing football you know the man one flipping him no football uh you know the man that is not the individual that they want at the helm they made that clear long time ago the game that they've been playing in training camp him not getting reps we
Starting point is 00:27:39 understand that so therefore you actually wanting him to give him credit after a game that ain't happening so to me it's not surprising to me because okay we already know we already know what it is we know we know you're not our guy i think shedore even knows that as well he's not tripping I'm going to prepare myself so when the opportunity presents itself the end result looks like today the most important stat that W that's all that matters
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Starting point is 00:32:55 at stephen curry book.com don't miss stephen curry's new york times bestseller shot ready available now oh cho you and i have both been in situation and chel it i know y'all probably last guy that y'all want to hear dating advice from but we've all had we've all had the young lady ocho she was gorgeous drop dead gorgeous yeah come on wait take your time now she was she i wanted her so bad. Yes, yes. But when it didn't work out, I realized the other one, she was the best for me and I needed to give her credit because the one that I wanted, it didn't work out. I understand Stefansky won't deal in Gabriel, but you got to understand the guy now is the best for you. And it's going to give you the best opportunity to win because he is unafraid to push the ball
Starting point is 00:33:54 down the bill right because in this league that's how you win big plays i just i don't get it also sometimes you got to like coach you to tell him sometimes i got to fool them sometimes you got a lot to your team yeah even if you don't like your door even if you won't dylan gabriel you won't commit i get all that and i get the semantics i get the uh uh the scheme of it ocho right i don't want i want them to prepare for both knowing damn well dylan gabriel and ain't going to see that feel anytime soon. I get all of that. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:29 But this notion that this thing is even close, this notion that this was just a whole, I mean, a whole hum performance. Right. The guy got no snaps with the guys that he played with the day until Wednesday of last week. Yeah. And he does that on the road in a hot.
Starting point is 00:34:54 hostile environment and all you got for them is that yeah i mean that's what it is and and one thing about it listen you have to understand coaches have egos too the owner has the ego too the owner and the coach not in cahoots but they both wanted their quarterback they got their quarterback in the third round things and things happen things can work out dilling gabriel's hurt right now there is no way in hell they're going to sit on their hands and show the world that they made a mistake There ain't no way in hell. That's not happening. It happens, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:35:29 We've all made mistakes. The thing is not making a mistake. Do you learn from it? Because remember, Ocho, mistakes without consequences, there's no lesson to be learned. You have to understand, but how many consequences that they had
Starting point is 00:35:43 in the last, what, 40, 40-some years? This is the 45th start. This is the 45th starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns since 19, I don't even know. 1999. This is the 40-second different start. starting quarterback that's 40-some quarterback so obviously they haven't learned their lesson regards to who the owner is who draws who the head coach is and that's how they see fit we're
Starting point is 00:36:04 going to continue to prove that we made the right pick in the third round by doing goddam shedore sandis somewhat of an injustice and what they're trying to do is it's likely the likelihood is probably going to backfire it's probably going to backfire and not working their favor All I'm saying is this, I believe the young man played well enough today to earn another start. No matter what you think about it, whether you like him or dislike him, whether you like his brashness, his arrogance or his cockiness or whatever the case may be. I don't know whether you like or dislike his father. All I know is he played well enough today.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And chat, uh, a chat Cleveland Brown's fans at any point in time, did Dylan Gabriel play in his starts as well as your door play today? That's all I'm asking. That's what you have to look at. Because the way you judge a starter, Ocho, I'm not saying a starter can lose. They said a starter can't lose his job due to injury. Mike Shanahan said a starter can lose his job
Starting point is 00:37:03 because if the guy comes in and he's playing better than you at the time you got injured, that is our new starter. Yeah. I have a question. Yes. I have a question. Before Dylan Gabriel had that concussion, he played six games, right? He plays in six games?
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yes, to the best of my knowledge, yes. Okay, six games. So, I mean, it would be hard to compare, compare the two based on real time, real NFL games until we have Shadur play six games as well. See, the point is
Starting point is 00:37:31 Will Stafansky in that organization allows Shadour to continue to play their game because they don't want him to prove them wrong. That's what they don't want. That's why I think the game that's the fancy is going to play is he going to find out is Dillon Gable
Starting point is 00:37:46 will he be able to go this week? So we're not on the wrong on the wrong side of being and right. Wait, what about this? Uh-oh, instead of them,
Starting point is 00:37:57 instead of him, let him play, because maybe he proves you right. Maybe all of a sudden he flops. I don't believe it will. I believe that, I believe the kid had two months of moxie. I believe that he believes
Starting point is 00:38:08 and the way he was brought up in what his dad has instilled in him. And he wants to be great, not because of his father. He's like, my father did what he did. Yeah. But he can't throw no passes for me.
Starting point is 00:38:20 No. He can't slide the line. can't read anything for me. Everything that I'm getting now is my own. I'm doing this. Should do it, Sanders. And I love my father. I love the last name that he bestowed upon me. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:38:34 he can't throw no passes. You do realize that owner and that head coach don't want to be made to look like a fool by putting 12 by there and having 12 continuously win you games. You do realize that, right? Make me look like a fool to help me get to the playoffs. Make me look like a fool
Starting point is 00:38:50 that make me be a consistent winner. Make me look like a damn fool and maybe potentially get me to the man do you look do you know if if that if you're doing what to get that get that team into the playoffs get to the amc championship game i'm not talking about this year i'm talking about let's just say in the next five years right if he were to do that and take that team to a super bowl they'll build a statue yeah i mean it'll be it'll be jim brown auto graham chudea sanders you do realize the owner would look like a fool you do realize the fancy will look like a fool they do not want young bull to succeed well the fans think their damn fool now to begin with so it don't matter what you look like they already
Starting point is 00:39:29 think you are yeah i mean this all you would do by keep keeping this going because you know sometimes you got to keep your mouth closed because people won't know how big a damn fool you are yeah i'll say boy keep your mouth closed sometimes people might thank you a fool but if you open your mouth you're you'll remove all doubt yeah so the Cleveland fans they don't hold Mr. Haslam and Stafansky in the highest regards. So there's not a whole lot they can do to change that. Now, if you want to, now, if you really want them to go booing and carry it on, take the young man out of it.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Take the young man. Don't let him start next week. Hey, what, I, um, now you know the game needs folk play. You understand you, you, you've been around long enough. So for, for him to have the game he had, right, to not only get a game ball for Stefansky to get in front of the. and still be non-committal to who's going to be the starter next week what does that tell you we in got damn week 12 we're going into week 13 there's no need to be playing these mind games as if we
Starting point is 00:40:30 in got damn training camp you don't know who to fucking start i'm sorry you don't know who the start is going to be it's a game it's a game at this point because that's not who you actually want at the helm playing quarterback for your franchise because you don't want to look like a goddamn fool oh so there are very few people they are very very few people with the first person that razzed their berry wait who then my grandma say my grandma say you hey bring that to me say that to me yeah there are very few people that are in that are with the person that initially razzed their berry they're buried hey i don't worry about you'll be driving driving the marty and see you're like damn i'm talking about i ain't i ain't never heard that
Starting point is 00:41:14 before you know don't worry about it but anyway hold on hold on no no you don't skip over me like that. Give it to me in English, now. Oh, Joe, a berry. Right. I know what a berry is. Juice. Yeah. Juice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. A lot. How many people that are married are in a serious relationship. Right. That person that they're in that relationship. Right. That is the first person that peaked
Starting point is 00:41:38 their curiosity. That is the first person that they love. That is the first person that they wanted to be with. Okay. So why are you just saying? But I'm, that's what I'm saying. Okay. I get it. Yeah. So in a situation like that, okay, I might, but you know what? Just for GP, just to endure, it should do her, unbelievable job, game ball for you. Right. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah, you do that when it's actually the person you actually want. Yes. That's a different. You understand? That's it. Hold on, you're using that analogy wrong too, Unk. No, because my grandma used to say, my grandma used to say with, uh, uh, uh, you said berry, it's, it's cherry.
Starting point is 00:42:15 No, razz berry. You don't razz my berry, which means, He don't excite me. Don't worry about it, you'll get it. Hey, that, hey, that must be some downsides. I ain't never heard of course it is. Of course.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I'm saying down here, it's more like cherry, the first, pop my cherry. So you're asking the first, okay. You don't rat, you don't razz my bearer. You don't excite me. I like that, I like that, I like that's different. I get it. Shoulder might not, might not have excited them in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:42:43 They was more excited about Dylan Gabriel. Right. But at the end of the day, who makes you wholesome who makes you who makes your house feel like a home right who when you get excited when you when you need someone to talk to and say you know what i'm going to love you through all those scars and i know you got a lot of them but come lay your head on me and i'm going to make it okay that's what this young man have the potential of doing yes give him an opportunity that's what we because a lot of times i get it we visual men we're very visual yeah uh uh uh
Starting point is 00:43:20 If you're in sports, you a big, what do I see? Man, he could throw the ball 100. That's why they make so many mistakes at the quarterback position, Ocho, because what can he do? He can throw the ball 80 yards. I saw him on one knee, throw the ball in hitting the upright. Ain't got none of doing football. How many times he's going to be on one knee?
Starting point is 00:43:34 Because if he's down on one knee, that means he's down already, so the ball's going to be incomplete. With all that being said, a lot of times we get in awe about what we see. Sometimes the aesthetic beauty, long hair, complexion. Yeah, his body.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yes. Oh, she got degrees stacked on top of the grease. Uh-huh. But sometimes it's what's on the inside is what we can't see. Right. That's the determining factor. Tom Brady A had no aesthetics. He couldn't run fast.
Starting point is 00:44:07 He couldn't jump high. Yes, sir. He didn't have no arm like my home or Josh Allen. But what you couldn't see. Yes, sir. Made him deadly. See, Sometimes we get, we look at the black mamba.
Starting point is 00:44:22 The black mama is not the most dangerous snake in Africa. It's not either dangerous as the Bloom Slane or the common brown in Australia. Right. Or the western of the coastal Taipan. But he has the name. You see that the black number. Now, he will attack without provocation. Most snakes that are venomous, they won't attack without provocation.
Starting point is 00:44:42 That's what makes him so deadly because it is one of the few snakes that will attack without provocation. Mm-hmm. Man, get that man of damn game ball. It ain't your game ball any damn way. It's like you buy no footballs. Hey. He got me hot up in here. I see, hey, hey, don't, don't, don't let your emotion get the best of you
Starting point is 00:45:03 because you think you mad right now? You think you mad right now? Wait until Wednesday and watch the games they play. Oh, hey. Wait, wait, wait, wait until Wednesday. You remember that song, Locho? If you think you're lonely now, wait until the night. If you think you're lonely now, wait until the night.
Starting point is 00:45:18 If you think you low, if you think you're lonely, And you think I'm mad now, like you say, wait until Wednesday. All right. And they're talking about Mary Kate Cabin come out there and says, Dylan Gabriel is taking snap. Boy, I'll break up everything in this. Well, I tell you, I'll tell you one thing. You might as well get to break it right now.
Starting point is 00:45:32 You might as well get the breaking right now because you understand. You understand the NFL. You know the games that they play, especially when the owner has come out at the beginning of the season, excuse me, at the beginning of the season, matter of fact, in training camp and saying a certain individual is not his draft pick. he did say that yes he came out and said it so what does that that let you know already what the play is going to be for the foresee of your future as long as 12 is there you know what that's like that's like you know what a father allowing you to marry his daughter and his daughter
Starting point is 00:46:07 always saying you know what you is not the one i really wanted but my father arranged his marriage so i'm here oh she oh nigger i'm here that's it that's all that's all that's all that's It's the same thing. So Shador, blocking that out, being able to compartmentalize, forget all that. He has to. Hey, listen, I'm going to prepare the same exact way as if you wanted me. So when my opportunity presents itself, it looks like it did the day. Meanwhile, the rest of the locker room seemed to have a new sense of optimism.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Here's Miles Garrett after the game talking about the 52-yard bomb that had Miles looking shocked on the sideline because they had the cameras on him. Let's take a listen to what Miles Garrett had to say. Like, I mean, he put it up and I'm just like, oh, God, who is that even going to? I didn't even, I wasn't even looking down there, the CIP, and then, you know, I'm just looking. I'm like, oh, God, please. And he drops it in the bucket, and he reaches it out. I'm like, please just don't fumble into the end zone. So, now he reaches out, but he is, you know, keeps possession.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And I'm just like, wow, that there's not many guys in lead that can make that throw. So that was a hell of a throw. I hope he can continue to grow and develop from making plays like that and they'll take it from there. Oh, Joe, I was happy. Yeah, then I was saying, like, damn, you got a score, scum, man, get that in the end zone, man.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah, yeah. Oh, Joe, I say, because now somebody else's going to read, they go, they're going to push or they're going to head until the running back. And somebody else's going to get that tub, man. Yeah, I mean, it was a beautiful. beautiful throw, Ojo. It was.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I'm talking about, like Miles said, that's a bucket throw. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was dope. And it's funny, I'm always curious, too. When you think about it, with him having a game like the day, and the fancy makes the wrong decision, which I know he's going to probably do on Wednesday, is a chance, even though the season might be gone,
Starting point is 00:48:10 him losing the locker room. Him losing the locker room. Players seeing what's going on, understand it what's going on and it's blatant. The veterans will probably say something. They probably won't say anything publicly. But, I mean, it can be bad. It can get, it can get others.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I think the thing the thing is that the locker room really runs the football team. We know. We know who can play and who can't. Yeah. We do. Yeah. Me ain't no secret. We might not
Starting point is 00:48:40 ever say it. That's not our place because we don't want to cause friction. or called the sentient or division within the locker room but we know who can play we see your we see your ass every damn day every day every day and we see who coaches constantly have to make corrections for
Starting point is 00:49:00 we see oh this mofo in the game hey you do realize right think about this right take the names out of it take the center's name out of it take the Gabriel name out of it on what team is any owner
Starting point is 00:49:21 any head coach or anyone in positions of power that did the drafting in that mother I'm sorry in the war room are they allowing a fifth round pick
Starting point is 00:49:31 to outplay a third round pick in what world in what world has that ever happened the 49 and have us looking like a fool Brock Purdy beat out
Starting point is 00:49:45 Trey Lance Mr. Irrelevant beat out the third pick in the draft but you see the difference we made a mistake we own up to the mistake this guy right here
Starting point is 00:49:56 Mr. Irrelevant the last pick in the draft he gives us the best opportunity to win I understand that we mortgaged we gave a cow and a calf you know arm and a leg a what
Starting point is 00:50:08 we gave a cow on a cap an arm of the leg we gave all that stuff Ocho to get Trey Lance. Yeah. But unfortunately, they found out that Trey Lance couldn't play dead on a horror film. So guess what they did?
Starting point is 00:50:22 They said, Brock Purdy, we like what we see. Yeah. Brock Purdy, it is. It's okay, Ocho. We made a mistake. You're not going to hit, if greatest Ozzy is at drafted, he drafted two players that's on the 100th anniversary team of the NFL. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Jonathan Ogden, no, three. Ogden, Lewis, Ed Reed. Ray Reid. Three guys. Not a whole lot of people can say they drafted three guys that are on a team like that. With that being said,
Starting point is 00:50:55 he's missed some too. But the one thing I know about Ozzy is that if he, hey, boy, hey, we drafted him to be what, but the guy came into the free agent. The guy came into the later pick. He outplayed him.
Starting point is 00:51:08 He said, I'll be a fool not to play it. he said i ain't got that much pride oh listen it's a little different now it's a little bit it's a little the pride is there the ego is there because you're not going to allow it's saying just any fifth round pick huh that that last name carries a little
Starting point is 00:51:26 a little bit of weight now and it's a little different you know we don't want to look like the fools that we purposely let him slide all the way to the fifth on purpose you already look like a fool you look like a fool when you let baker Mayfield go and you tried you tried to change him you didn't give him weapons look at baker when he got weapons i don't care i don't care your quarterback now unless unless you like them
Starting point is 00:51:53 exemplary like you a uh a brady that can that can elevate but everybody don't have that ability you got to stop thinking oh my quarterback no everybody can't elevate players like the great great i'm talking about even amongst the great there tears to greatness. Yes. And Brady and some of those guys sit on that top tier that you can't even get up. You can't even get up there.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Right. It's different. Yes. Different. But Dylan Gabriel, in 184 attempts, Dylan Gabriel has one pass that's traveled 26 yards as long as player the season. Should do a rollout downfield with a 53-yard completion
Starting point is 00:52:31 in the first quarter, one of the best offensive moments for the browse this season. The locker room, I think the thing is, Ocho, is that being who he is, Being the son of who he is, he's a very confident young man in his own abilities. And you've got to be,
Starting point is 00:52:48 everybody that, listen, everybody that play a professional sport, everybody that's great at something. Forget sports. If you're great at something, you've got an ego. Now, I kept telling people this and people didn't want to believe me.
Starting point is 00:53:00 The greater you aren't something, the bigger the ego is. The greater you, I don't care. Whether you're Dr. Neil Eletra, one of the foremost orthopedics in the world. Mm-hmm. It doesn't matter. You have an ego.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Thankfully, growing up in the household, he understands he's very confident in his own ability. Bills take a listen to what should do or had to say after the game. We got that in the can. But there's no excuse. You got to go out there and perform. There's no choice, no question.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Nobody cares if this was one week of prep. Who care? You know? So a lot of people want to see me fail and it ain't going to happen. You know, it ain't going to happen. I like that. Oh, Joe, the remaining schedule, they get the 49ers and the Titans at home. They go on the road to the Bears.
Starting point is 00:54:15 They get the bills at home, Steelers at home. They finish the season on the road at the Bengals. Hey. They got to tell me, hey, it ain't get no easier now. No, absolutely not. 49ers are going to be a nice test. That's going to be a real nice test. I mean, it all comes down to that decision that's going to be made on Wednesday by Safansky.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Whoever's taking those first team reps on Wednesday, as you. prepare for that 49th game, that's your starting quarterback for the week. And that's what, that's what it's going to be. Bailey Zappy was promoted up to quarterback number two. And knowing them in the games that they play, knowing them in the game that they play, probably if Shador is not the starter, he'll probably go back down to three. That's the type of game that they will play. He ain't played a game.
Starting point is 00:55:02 He's going to be starter. All right. I'm telling you now. Watch, watch how they play games. Ocho, there's a video that emerged of Gino Smith. He was getting booed by fans that he was leaving the field. This is what Gino did
Starting point is 00:55:15 after leaving the field after hearing the fans booed. Damn, I can't see. You know, only got one eye. He flipped them off. Are we did? Yes. The second time, because remember they went back to Seattle?
Starting point is 00:55:36 He did the exact same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a repeat offender. Gino, you know how this worked. When you play good, they applaud. When you play bad, they boo. Y'all been playing like dog poo. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Hey, they need help, too, Uncle, over there, boy. Especially on offense. Hey, on offense, they need some help. I like, I like Genti, Genti showed some flashes. He really can't get loose like he want to. But the Raiders need a dog, huh? You hear me? You hear me?
Starting point is 00:56:05 The Raiders need a dog. I'm talking about, he need a dog. He need a dog, like a dog I can count on, like a good one. Matter of fact, and since we talk about the Raiders, since we talk about Gino Smith, right? And they need a dog, and there's a good dog that's going to be available in the offseason, right, too? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Right now, he wears Thorne's helmet right now. You know, he looks real good over there, and he fit what being a Raider is all about. Right now, he wearing number three over there in Dallas right now. But I'm just saying, I'm thinking about that. You understand what I'm saying? Man, look here, I ain't fooling with them. I'm going to go somewhere Elcho
Starting point is 00:56:37 You know how hard it would be for Pick To see what he's getting right now And to go deal with these jack legs Hey Hey um I'm just I'm just saying I'm just saying I mean I don't want to go too far ahead
Starting point is 00:56:53 I just want to throw that tidbit out there until we get Oh yeah To that evil cowboy game What we're talking about Looking like he's top five Definitely Well, right now, the best receiver in football is in Jigba. And we're going to talk about him a little later.
Starting point is 00:57:10 He went for a buck 67 today, Yocho. I've seen him. In two more tubes. I've seen him. This man got, he doesn't set the franchise record with sick with in 13, 11 games. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. J.S.N. right?
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yeah. I want you to think about every receiver. I had a wide-out workshop, right? I had a wider workshop. Every receiver that came into that workshop, you know what they're doing this year? They're going off. Man, stop playing with me, man. They're going off.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I don't need, I don't need much. I don't need much time. I don't need much time. And now we're just two days. I'm telling you, all NFL receivers, I know y'all going to see this. Come on down here. Holl let you boy in July. All your young receivers, one-year players, second-year players, rookies, 30-year.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I'm telling you, come on down here to Miami, man. I'm going to get you right, man. I'm going to get you right. I don't need much. Before you go any further, we have breaking news. The Raiders just relieved Chip Kelly of his duties. Chip Kelly signed a contract to make him the highest paid
Starting point is 00:58:10 officer coordinator in football this off season. But he was just, he was dismissed after just 11 games. God damn. Hey, he didn't stay in college. Listen, somebody, somebody got to take the fall with this.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Somebody got to take the fall. Somebody got to take it on. Obviously, it ain't going to be Pete. It ain't going to be the quarterback. Okay, who we going to blame? We can't get nothing going offensively. So who's the first?
Starting point is 00:58:37 Because that a gadget-ass offense? What's you call it? That gadget-ass offense. But this is the part I don't like. We're in the middle of the season, right? You left the officer of the coordinator go. So what plays we call it now? Or we have someone else calling the same exact offense
Starting point is 00:58:51 because we can't learn a brand-new offense. No, it's going to be the same offense. But, you know, sometimes, also maybe a different set of eyes. I like that. See things differently. I like that. Down in distance, area of the field. Or actually understanding the strengths of the goddamn supporting cash you have
Starting point is 00:59:13 and putting the right places. Why is Tucker out there on the outside? He needs to be in the slide. Why is he out there on the outside as if he's a true, no disrespect, as he's the true number one. He is a slot at best. Come on, man. He's a third, he's a third, he a good third or fourth receiver.
Starting point is 00:59:31 He needs to be in the slot. He don't need to be outside. First of all, he only like, well, I told him he like five, seven, five eight. Hold on, I know he fast as hell. But he out there lined up two yards outside of the number running comebacks. Man, they finish sitting sit on that all day, huh? Yeah. They finish sit on that all day.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Like, come on, man. Yeah, it's, uh, hey, they paid a lot of money. They made him the highest paid offensive coordinator in football. All right, time to let it go. it that work and go back to college you can have a great career in college and that worked
Starting point is 01:00:07 but you know you go ahead and try to change guys guys that have been doing stuff there and Tyler because remember the first thing he did Ashton Jent he wanted to ask him to put his hands on his thighs the man been standing up the whole while Hey can ask you a question?
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yes when you see Jemir Gibbs in the back field how is he standing? Damn they're standing straight up straight up and down because that that had that that gives you It doesn't change nothing. I'm comfortable.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I want, what you need? Hell, I'll let you play in some hugs. If you're going to tell me you're going to go out there and run for $2.15. I don't care nothing about what you got on. I really don't. Man, please. Thank you, chat, man. Ooh, chat.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Y'all doing us good tonight. Ocho, we got $50K in the chat tonight. This has been the first time in a regular season game in a long time. Chad, thank you so much for this support. Really appreciate it. Ocho, the Cowboys fall behind 21-0, scored 24 unanswered points, and they win on a game,
Starting point is 01:01:09 Brandon Aubrey's 42-yard field goal as time expired. Jalen Hurts said after the game, we got to find a way to finish the game, and we've got to find some consistency in what we do. Definitely to tell the two halves. In the end, we didn't play a complete game as a team, and it got us today. We've got to own this one.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Let that light and fire in us as a team and stay together and move forward. AJ Brown been trying to tell y'all this. Eagle fans, A.J. Brown been trying to tell you what happens when the defense can't bail us out? You cannot run the football. You're going to win games moving forward on Jalen Hurst's arm. Now, he got some pressure that he doesn't normally get.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Yeah. Lane Johnson is a big out. Mm-hmm. The center, Jurgis, ah, ah, ah. Digi Zua was whipping ass inside today. Yes, sir. But with the exception of one game, Saquan has not run the ball this year.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Saquant had 10 carries for 22 yards. Yeah. Jalen Hurts had 7 for 33. Biggsby had one for eight. So that's 18 carries for 63 yards. this isn't going to be like this all season long now you had two you had two turn over yet i mean the defense was balling that's an i i thought you i was sitting there and i started to tweet i started to tweet this but i what they had the ball second and 17 uh-huh they just run the ball
Starting point is 01:02:49 pick up four yards hey how about trying to go for it and try to get nine to ten now we got something manageable you run the ball into the line of scrimmage and now it's third and 17 i think a j brown or somebody picked up 12 yards now if you to pick up 12 if you picked up five or six yards before and now i come back and get to 12 now you got a first down first down they give up on too many plays well our defense a bail aside our defense no well you know what about not one to put the ball in harm's way well i mean i but not one to put the ball in harm way but also being able to trust the quarterback to the right decision with they don't what they say they don't they don't because they're not a whole lot of people that have a quarterback that's won a Super Bowl MVP that on second and 17 they
Starting point is 01:03:39 handing the ball off they're going to throw the ball let me try to get half of it back Ocho now I got a manageable third down right I get all they say and Stephansky excuse me serianni's going to say all this stuff and I get all of that but they don't trust him like they should trust him as a guy that started damn to his entire career in the NFL he came into the backup he got the starting job and he hasn't relinquished it he's gone to the playoffs he's been to two Super Bowls he's won one and he's won a league and he won a Super Bowl MVP they don't trust him like they should yeah now this loss yeah should get their undivided attention yeah now AJ ain't going to say this but AJC I told you but listen I told you
Starting point is 01:04:25 but but also look at the game in that fourth quarter look at the game now i know i know i know the cavalry were able to come back but um they had about 37 11 goddamn fumbles in a row in back-to-back series yes sayquan fumbled and then they punted it defense did a great job but also there's only so many times that you can keep putting your defense right back on the field they just got off the field yeah they get them all to sayquan he fumbled it the defense hold them they punt the ball defense right back on the field on the field there's only look I don't care how big how much you build a levy if it rains enough it will burst yeah and that water will come over that levy again another thing that happened Eagles I just want to know how many
Starting point is 01:05:15 penalties also they had 14 penalties yeah they had a lot 14 14 no they have 14 no they had more than a lot, a lot of the parcel of land. They had 14. I mean, Dallas had 473 yards of office. That was, that was, look, this is when DAC is at his absolute best. Oh, yeah. Because now he can throw caution to the win. Because guess what, Ocho?
Starting point is 01:05:47 If you lose, oh well, but. Because, you know, when I worked with Dan, Danny and I, Dan Marino, and we worked together for a decade, and he said, he's like, hey, if I threw three interceptions, hell, what's the difference between three and four? What's the difference between four and five?
Starting point is 01:06:06 I'm going to keep letting it rip. Let it go. I mean, they should have put this thing away in the first 21-0. Listen, Uncle, if you're playing mad, you've got to pass the sticks. game is over at 21 nothing I thought the game was over obviously I had both games going I'm watching the Raiders I'm watching the Raiders and the Browns I'm watching Eagles and the
Starting point is 01:06:27 Cowboys boom both TV set up right there so I'm thinking okay damn what the Cowboys out of right 21 Zip in the NFL if you continue to keep your foot on the gas it's no way as good as their defense is it's no way the Cowboys should be able to come back but long behold boy they got a young dude out there they got a young dude out there man in In Dallas, they got a star on his helmet. When he got drafted, he was standing just like this, huh? He was that, man, listen, when we, listen, when we talk about top five again, when we talk about top five receivers and understanding potential in what they've been able to do
Starting point is 01:07:09 and how the certain team that might have been holding me back, based on what we're seeing this year, man, stop, man, stop playing. First of all, it shouldn't even be 21-0. Ocho what CD might but make sure you make curfew moving forward CD dropping an as low to passes Ocho you watched it and I've watched it he dropped like four or five hold on how many targets hold on let me go back because Ocho he dropped the flat-out touchdown he dropped it in the end zone it hit a bet that would the end of the game I'm glad they won the game because that might have been on CD if they had 11 targets he called four of them
Starting point is 01:07:47 huh 11 targets he caught four he threw four or five of them back at deck i mean he was a he turned into a retriever you know the retriever though cho you you hunting quail or pheasant go get him boy he'll pick it up pick it and bring it back to you yeah that's what he was doing he's picking the ball up handed to the official no no no no bro i need you to be a receiver we pay you 34 million dollars and right now well you know you see everybody we ain't got to say nothing y'all see it with your own eyes y'all see pick is out playing it we ain't got to say nothing but you see it yeah he being lazy with his hands and eyes unc that's all it is being lazy
Starting point is 01:08:28 with your being lazy with your hands and eyes you got to reset the league and drops he lead the league and drops CD CD drops oh man hey damn um you sure 1,000% damn you got to get that thing I mean last couple of games
Starting point is 01:08:57 hell I thought that was Edward Scissorhands out there hey I mean look y'all see it chat I mean Ocho and now we make a lot of a situation but y'all see them drops
Starting point is 01:09:09 and I know Cowboy fans y'all see it like damn CD come on CD you got to I'm talking about the ball beating him up Ocho Yeah. He doesn't got, what happens, Ocho, you know when you drop a couple, you like, well, damn, do I got my hands right? Should my head?
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah. Hey. Like this. Do I catch it like this? Yeah. Now you start trying to body catch everything. And get in your head. It's gone.
Starting point is 01:09:33 You get in your head. Listen, I've been there. Hey, listen, I've been there. So I kind of know what he's going through. Now, it's just be one game. It don't be multiple. It don't be back to back to back. And a player of his caliber, of his caliber.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Oh, absolutely not. The game was supposed to be over on that catch where it went through it, it hit his belly and went through. And he looked at that, and he looked at that and telling that throw it out there a little bit more so I can go back and run to it. Come on, come on now. Over the middle, he dropped one over the middle. And damn, I mean, and he like, I'm like, bro, I'm glad you got some flexibility
Starting point is 01:10:06 because when he go down, he's all on his neck, he all breaks that. I'm like, well, damn. Hey, hey, you know, you know, listen, in baseball, some of the greatest, of the greatest sluggers, they go in the slumps. I'm not making no excuses for him, but somebody like that with that double eight, he would that double eight for a reason. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:26 He wear that double eight for a reason. So boom, I had a bad game. Next week, I don't even know who the Cowboys got. I don't even know who the Cowboys got. But I know next week, a four. Man, get that boy back in the rhythm, man, and get his confidence back, man. Put that thing back on him.
Starting point is 01:10:40 No, I'm going to let him work on his confidence. I'm going to go to number three. Because I know number three going to put it in his back pocket for me. I know what three go. I know where three going to do. Did you see that catch? That three made? Which one?
Starting point is 01:10:52 Hold on. Which one? The one he made over two. He caught one and then 21 tried to swipe it. But here's the problem the Eagles got. Because wherever ain't that, the ball going to follow him. Jackson. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Whoever he guarding the ball following him now. Adore. I'm trying to figure out, Ocho. Adora Jackson sets up inside. He has inside leverage. Yeah. How in the hell you let pickets cross your damn face? You're talking about on the slant.
Starting point is 01:11:20 On the end route. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. It was like third and, it was like third and 12. He's got inside. I know the one he had to reach up and go half of him. Yeah, you got inside the Elcho. They put you inside for a reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:38 If he beat you on the go ball, you're like, coach, I mean, what you want me to do, you got me lined up inside. Yeah, that's on him. If I line you, Ocho, if I line you up inside, you can't let him cross your face. Ocho, what did I tell you? What I've been telling him running back? I say if a linebacker blitz and you catch him,
Starting point is 01:12:00 he's going to sit you in the lap of the quarterback and he's going to sack your quarterback. What did McCormey did he do to Javante Williams, Ocho? Set him down back there. Ocho, you better close that distance. You got to realize. He's coming from distance. so he has a head of steam you sitting there catching him you better close that distance you got you got
Starting point is 01:12:21 you got to meet him you got a you got a you got to meet him hey the eagles i tell you what a j brown got the undivided attention yeah hey he had he had he had a hell of a game they too they were they were feeding that boy early too but not enough hey they were feeding him early he should have he should have had one of them chase games he should have had 23 targets Devonte Devante cooking Both of Both um
Starting point is 01:12:53 Head chef and assistant chef It's not going to be What it was last year You throw another wide open guys Because Sequin And they're dropping that eight guy down to stop Sequin That offensive line is not as dominant Now Lane Johnson is out
Starting point is 01:13:11 He's probably done for the year because it's reported that he has a Liz Frank. So he's probably, if he got Liz Frank, he's probably done. Excuse me. Yes. You're going to have to educate me. What the hell is a Liz Frank?
Starting point is 01:13:24 It's a ball. Dancers normally get it. It's a small, what is it? Like the metatarsal, like in your foot. So this is your foot. It's like right. How are you going to play? Because he got the foot already.
Starting point is 01:13:39 It's his right foot. So you're going to kick. How are you going to catch? How you're going to catch? you're going to sit can't he done if if what they're saying is true that he has a lead spring injury right I might be able to do some do something for him for that well you might can do something after he have surgery but you ain't going to be able to do nothing for it right now with that being said don't you look I think the thing is the Eagles just got to
Starting point is 01:14:03 realize and I and I said we've been I've been saying this if you think you're going to win the Super Bowl how you won it last year you're fool of yourself now you can't you got to evolve You got involved. The way you won it last year, you're not going to be able to do it the same way the next year. And obviously, you know what? You know how difficult it is to repeat?
Starting point is 01:14:17 Being able to repeat is very difficult in itself. Therefore, teams have film on you. Actually, every team you do play, you don't get their best shot. Absolutely. So the way you won games last year, you're going to have to do things differently. If you can't run the ball,
Starting point is 01:14:32 you got to throw it. Even if it's not the makeup of your team, even that's not what you guys do, things are going to have to change, whether it be the play calling, Whether it be Jalen Hertz, Jalen Hertz taking the freedom, maybe taking the freedom and taking the reins out of the hands of Brother Petula.
Starting point is 01:14:48 If he called something else and Jalen Hertz being an MVP, being a Super Bowl winning quarterback, you know what? You know what, I see something that you can't see from the sideline or I see something that you can't see from the booth because I'm actually field side. I'm actually out here being able to change the play. Hey, Devante, if you get one-on-one, keep your eyes on me. AJ Brown, if you get one-on-one, keep your eyes on me.
Starting point is 01:15:09 I'm changing it. changing to whatever they do best he man to man every time you see a j and somebody bumping run that goddamn safety playing around and he anyway in the middle of the field i'm checking it every time every time because every time you put it up to him a 50-50 ball with a j brown the turns in 90-10 man stop playing man i mean that was sensational 23 or 36 354 two touchdowns that was a hell of interception, that blanking ship, the one he picked on CD? Hold on, you, you, you, uh, you, uh, you ain't see the veteran move, huh? You ain't see the, you didn't see the tug, the slight tug of the jersey to put him in
Starting point is 01:15:49 and then you launch yourself for it in front. Hey, and it was just subtle though. It wasn't enough to. Yeah, slingshot, yes. Man, I'm talking about a straight veteran move. That was beautiful. That was beautiful. Yeah, it was, uh, but look, the one thing we know about that,
Starting point is 01:16:03 that don't lose division games at home. He hadn't lost a bunch of them. He might have lost one or two, but he don't, lose a bunch of at home. And like I said, and when he can throw caution to the wind, he's like, hey, we down 21-0. So what if we lose 35-10? Nah, hey, let's go.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And they stayed attached just enough that we could stick a run in here, here or there with Javante Williams. And so now we got a second and three. We got a second and four. I can do that just enough. But the cowboy, hey, here's the Cowboys schedule. got the Chiefs on Thanksgiving. Then they got the
Starting point is 01:16:41 then they play the following Thursday. They get the lions. Then they get the Vikings at home, which is a Sunday night game. Then they get the charges at home. God damn. And then they got the commanders on Christmas,
Starting point is 01:17:01 which is in Washington, and then they got the Giants. Hey. They got a nice little schedule, boy. They got a nice little schedule. They got a company. Nick Foles, Super Bowl MVP winning quarterback Nick Foles, who quarterback the Eagles to their first Super Bowl,
Starting point is 01:17:19 critique the Eagle's simplistic route tree and play calling. When the route tree is simplistic, D.Bs know that. Kevin Petulah is probably a great dude, but there's an art to play calling. Yeah, I said that last week. Yeah, I said it last week. Everybody, you said it. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:17:39 If everybody said from the outside, why can't Seriana that's inside, why can't he see it? Why can't Petula see it? And I said it last week, you know, it's funny. And I understand the frustrations that A.J. Brown is having. But if I can watch the Eagles game, right? And just, and this is, I'm just, A.J. Brown specifically, if I can tell you exactly where he lines up and I could tell you the route. If I was blindfolded and you told me exactly where AJ Brown was lined up, I can give you the two route combination he's going to run.
Starting point is 01:18:14 If it's two by two, if it's three by one, he's on a single side by itself. He got the slant coming. No, I mean, dude, I mean, I give it to you, and I guarantee to you a whole game. I bet I won't be wrong not once. Yeah. I won't be wrong not once. It's too easy. They really don't let him run, they don't let him run by a handful of damn rounds.
Starting point is 01:18:34 They'll let him run. They'll let him run to slam. They'll let him run to shout. The curl. Let him run the over. Curl. They'll let it run the deep ball if he's on the left-hand side. And occasionally, they'll let him run the comeback.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Mm-hmm. Yeah. We call it, we call it the 12-yard dig, not 16, 18-yard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you call it? The one that pick is called. Bingo, yeah, yeah, yeah. On a Jackson, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:00 What do y'all call that, though? What do you call it? We call it. We call it. We call it dig, yeah. Well, I mean, our dig is 16 and 18. I forgot what you called the short of the shorter version. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:19:11 You can, I mean, the thing you, it all depends because the thing is with us, we, if we, you had, the route was called. So let's just say for the second of argument, you know, you needed 14 yards. Right. If the route say 10 to 12, go to 2012. You can go deeper because it would mess up the time
Starting point is 01:19:28 and of the quarterback. Yeah. But you run that, you, or you call it, we call it, we call it over. Okay. Sometimes, like I would run what we call a far cross, 10 push to 22, 24. Right, God, damn.
Starting point is 01:19:42 That's a far cross on. Okay, because I'm trying to catch the ball on the far side. Right, okay. Over route, what you think, you're probably thinking of an overrout, whereas 10 roll to 12, 12 breaking the cross.
Starting point is 01:19:55 We, as a tight end, it was a basic cross for us. Okay. And I just, they're not going to win a Super Bowl how they won it last year. you got to get a defense defense been carried enough when y'all gonna carry when y'all gonna pull your weight
Starting point is 01:20:11 oh Joe the Eagles got the Eagles got oh this was the Cowboys played the Chiefs on Thanksgiving who the Eagles got coming up that's what I meant we'll get that in just a second
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