Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Stefon Diggs gets traded, Rashee Rice fallout

Episode Date: April 5, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Buffalo Bills trading star WR Stefon Diggs to the Houston Texans and Kansas City Chiefs WR Rashee Rice taking responsibility for Dallas hit-and...-run 05:00 - Stefon Diggs headed to Texans 31:45 -“The only player that’s exempt from bad behavior is the QB” 45:00- Dwight Freeney says he retired at the perfect time because of the current rules and how the game has changed 51:15 - Rashee Rice apologies and took full responsibility for car accident 01:03:00 - Dallas Mayor pitches Chiefs return to city off rejected stadium tax 01:05:00 - Lebron and JJ Redick admit to watching their own highlights  (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)      #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:10 Stephon Diggs is headed to Houston. The Texans traded a 2025 second round pick to the Bills in exchange. Buffalo is also sending Houston a 2024 sixth round pick and a 2025 fifth round pick uh here's uh in the buffalo a reporter for buffalo reported buffalo's patients wore thin with dig the evidence after his performance slip the bills were so motivated to move him that they took on the largest dead money cap hit in nfl history which is 31 million dollars. Signs of tension between Diggs and his quarterback were obvious when cameras caught
Starting point is 00:04:50 Diggs screaming at Josh Allen during the Bills playoff loss to the Bengals two seasons ago. That was followed by an absolute mandatory minicamp, among other distractions. Earlier this week, Diggs posted someone tweeted, saying, does Josh benefit from having a top-tier receiver?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yes. Is he a center to his success? No. Diggs tweeted, are you sure? Ocho. Yeah. Remember? Remember what I said.
Starting point is 00:05:18 What did I say, Ocho? What did you tell me, baby? Remind me. Refresh my memory. I'm old now. Okay, I said Ocho. Refresh my memory. I said, Ocho, they'll tolerate you until they can replace you.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I said... Okay. We've seen teams. Who's a better receiver? Him or T.O.? Diggs or T.O.? Who's a better receiver? I mean, T.O. is one of the best of all time.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And when people got tired of him, what did they do? Who's a better receiver, him or Randy Moss? And when people got tired of Moss' behavior, what did they do, Ocho? Who's a better receiver, him or A.B.? A.B. That's what I was, I was basically going to look at the history of great receivers. At some point in time, them teams would get tired of this and say, nah. Well, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Let me tell you something. Now, anytime as receivers, we are passionate. We're not quiet. We don't abide by the standards in which the media or NFL analysts think we should live and conduct ourselves by. We're considered divas. We're considered prima donnas, because depending on who you are, the goalposts always seem to move depending on who you are. Sometimes you have the complex, the protection, sometimes you have the protection for the complexion. And when you're boisterous, you're passionate about it, but when it's, when it, when it's depending on who it is
Starting point is 00:06:45 and it ain't passionate, it's you're angry or you're a diva or you're arguing with your quarterback. It's not, it's, it's, it's weird to me is when you see someone in the middle of a game and exchange and exchange in, I call it exchange and pleasantries between the quarterback and receiver. It happens all the time. It happens with Tom Brady and his receivers. There's footage of it happening all the time. Now, we need different instances, depending on who the receiver is at hand or that's
Starting point is 00:07:14 doing it or the quarterback that's doing it is taken different. Sometimes it's being disruptive and sometimes it's passionate. It all depends on who it is that's doing the hauling. If you hear what I'm saying. Now, when it comes to Diggs, he's
Starting point is 00:07:29 one that wears his emotions on his shoulders. Many of the great ones do. You mean on his sleeve? Myself. You mean on his sleeve? On his sleeve. Oh, my bad. What did I say? Wears his emotions on his what? On his shoulder. That's a chip. Okay, yeah, yeah. The sleeve is on his shoulder. No.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Hey, that's one thing I could do. I could bitch some spelling and some goddamn analogy. You butchering some phrases and some slogans. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be fucking it up. Listen, but Diggs is very passionate.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Diggs is very passionate. As was Randy Moss. As is T.O. As was A.B. As was Dez Bryant. Do you notice, do you notice the lineage of greatness that I'm naming?
Starting point is 00:08:07 As was me. It's just the way it is. Sometimes I've seen Tom Brady erupt on the sidelines. Do they say he's angry? No. You know the first thing? We love to see that passion from that player. Wait, wait, wait, let me finish. Let me finish, baby.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I let you get your point across. I baby. I let you get your point across. I'm going to let you get your point across. But then when Dez does it or when Diggs does it or even Josh Allen does it, it's seen as passionate. But when Diggs does it or I do it
Starting point is 00:08:35 or Dez Bryant does it, oh, he's the problem. He's a cancer for the locker room. Look at what he's doing on the sideline. He's being disruptive. He's a cancer. I like just all type of... Listen, he's a player that wants to win. It's a player that wants to be involved in the game. It's a player that knows if he get his touches, he can help the team win
Starting point is 00:08:56 offensively. That's it. So I understand where his frustrations come from. You're probably not going to agree with me, but as a receiver myself that has been in situations later down the line in my career and understanding that I can affect the game. I can hit my head off the goalposts from anywhere on the field. I can get open. All I need for you to do is give me an opportunity and call a play for me. Sometimes, am I going to catch every play? No, I'm human. I'm going to mess up. I'm going to have drops. But just give me the opportunities and the chances
Starting point is 00:09:29 that you would always give me if I was a younger player. Try not to weed me out of the system and then say, oh, my production didn't drop. No, and then, well, you're responsible for dropping in the goddamn first place. But I'm going to let you go. That passion. Did you see Randy Moss display that passion
Starting point is 00:09:44 in front of Tom Brady? Did he get in Tom Brady's face's face and berated or talk about give me the damn ball have you ever saw that yes or no i i can't recollect right now to did he ever display that in front of steve young or did he did it in front of jeff garcia and other quarterbacks. Yes or no. No, sir. And you see what happened. They got tired of that. A B could have did that to another quarterback.
Starting point is 00:10:12 The Steelers got tired of him doing it. A big being. So in other words, what I'm saying is Josh Allen has started to garner the kind of respect. Now, whether or not he's the player of Tom Brady, we know he's not, we know he's not the player of, of,
Starting point is 00:10:24 of Peyton Manning and these other great quarterbacks. But in the Bills' eyes, and that's what you have to understand. See, that's why you can't look at somebody else and say, well, he makes that. The way their organization treats him might be different the way
Starting point is 00:10:39 this organization treats you. And so you have to be mindful of that. But I told you, Ocho, I'm just looking from a distance. I'm a player. You're a player. But I talk to a lot of general managers and I talk to a lot of people that's in prominent positions.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And it was universal. It won't be long. Well, you know what else is universal? It was universal that I don't think he wanted to even be there this this season coming up because he understood he understood i understood a lot of people no wait wait i'm not i'm not talking about him not being there i'm not talking about him not being there the window of opportunity had closed the window of opportunity that had closed listen hold on yes he Listen, hold on.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Yes, he was. Well, hold on. When he was in the house, were they using him to the best of his ability to make sure they can get past the Kansas city chiefs? I'm just asking. Were they?
Starting point is 00:11:35 No, he arrived in Buffalo. No receiver in NFL has more targets than one step on D since he arrived in Buffalo. No wide receiver has more catches thanon Diggs. Since he arrived in Buffalo, no wide receiver has more catches than Stephon Diggs. So this notion that he wasn't used, Ocho, is not being true by what you perpetuate.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I have a question. I have a question. Did the Buffalo Bills make it? Have they been to the Super Bowl? Have they gotten outside of the AFC Championship game? They didn't win to the AFC Championship game. Divisional round as far as they've done. My point is...
Starting point is 00:12:04 He's on the team. My point exactly. He's on the team. My point exactly. He's part of the problem. He became more a problem than what he was worth. Thank you. No, that is wrong. That is wrong. And you're not going to be able to replace that goddamn production right a goddamn way.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And we listen. And we're going to address this situation again with them, the Buffalo Bills, moving on fromgs because i don't have that i don't have the numbers in front of me wait wait stay with me there i don't have the numbers in front of me right now but the production between stefan diggs and josh allen four years am i correct four years they were together right four years immaculate production through those four years immaculate and nobody is going to be able to replace that production you might get some of it back you might get some of it back but the important games where it mattered they allowed team to dictate the way they can use him they've allowed team to take him out of games and then we come back on on on shows like us or people on tv will say well his production
Starting point is 00:13:04 dipped in some of the most important games. No, no, it absolutely did not. Yes. He has some of the, some of the most targets. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:10 He has some of those catches in the goddamn regular season when it mattered most, they allow team to dictate whether he got the ball or not. And then at the end of the goddamn game, all of a sudden he's supposed to make this historic, crazy goddamn catch when he hasn't been used and he didn't win goddamn cold for three quarters straight uh uh playoff time five for 40 playoff time four for 32 what the oh goddamn 11 game stretch of having no more than 50 yards
Starting point is 00:13:42 like come on come on, Unc. Come on, man. I'm not arguing with it, but I'm just trying to explain. Let me ask you a question. You say Buffalo didn't make it to the AFC Championship game and they didn't make it out of it. Was Stephon Diggs on that team
Starting point is 00:13:56 that didn't make it to the AFC Championship game or to the Super Bowl? Yes, sir. So they can get that far. They can get just as far without him as they did with him and save themselves 35 million.
Starting point is 00:14:05 See, what you fail to realize... Oh, that's a whole other story. You heard me? I ain't even bring up the goddamn salary cap here. What does that tell you? If somebody would eat, that's the largest non-quarterback dead money in NFL history. So what does that tell you, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:14:24 You know why it's the largest? Because what does the cap do every year? What does the market do every year? But no, okay, I have a question. Okay, how about this? What if Steph was an angel? He was an angel and he didn't say nothing. You think the goddamn Buffalo Bills
Starting point is 00:14:40 were still going to take on that goddamn... Yes. Come on, man. Yes. You know they weren still going to take on that goddamn... Come on, man. You know they wasn't going to take on no $31, $28 million cap hit. You know they wasn't going to trade him. I told you what was going to happen. I told you what was going to happen. You ain't want to listen to me. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Listen, he didn't want to be there anyway. I told you that. I knew that. I understood that, but I tried to defend it because I felt there was no better situation from a quarterback perspective than being in buffalo and all of a sudden what did i say i say man if stephon diggs leave if stephon diggs leave buffalo whenever i see him i'm gonna beat his ass now i said it in a joking manner because i was thinking about situations that would be good for him outside
Starting point is 00:15:20 of buffalo this motherfucking went to hou. Well, goddamn. I run through the streets of Houston butt-ass naked if I was Stephon Diggs because I'm going to an even better situation because now I got Nego Collins. I got Tank Dale. I have a rookie quarterback that had one of the most historic seasons
Starting point is 00:15:39 of all time, and that's where I'm going to play. Now that I think about it, when I was in Buffalo, hell, we get to the playoffs, what do the team do? Oh, we just going to double Diggs, and what do the Buffalo Bills officer coordinator do? Oh, we're going to let y'all double him, and we're just going to work everybody else instead of force feed the ball
Starting point is 00:15:58 or put Diggs in positions to make plays. Now, wait, wait, let me finish, baby. I'm going to let you talk. Stay with me now. Now, in Houston, you got Nico Collins, you got Tank Dale, and you have Stephon Diggs. Who they going to double? Who they going to double? Now, defensive coordinator, you're going to have to pick your poison.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Now you got to pick your poison. Stephon Diggs going to get 170 targets with those other two guys there? I have a question. I'm going to ask you, but you got to answer that question, and I'll answer it okay stay with me he doesn't need 170
Starting point is 00:16:30 so why did he need him in Buffalo you know what he well that's the way they fed him that's the way they fed him but let me tell you let me tell you what he can do I bet he had
Starting point is 00:16:39 I bet he had about 13, 1400 yards can I tell you why can I tell you why do you remember the 2008 no wait was it 2012 or 2008 had about 1,300, 1,400 yards. Can I tell you why? Can I tell you why? Do you remember the 2008? No, wait. Was it 2012 or 2008? What year was the Cardinals? What year did the
Starting point is 00:16:51 Arizona Cardinals have 3,000-yard receivers? I'm not sure. Chat, chat. Was it 2008 or 2012? I'm, man, God damn, my memory's bad. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I don't think you understand what he's going to do with that offensive system. I understand, but you don't understand that his targets are not going to be what they were. You're not, but he's so efficient when he does get the ball. Why did he do that in Buffalo? He was efficient.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Look at the numbers the past four years in Buffalo. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about last year. Hold on. Even teammate Khalil Shakur had more yards on 37 fewer targets in the last seven games. Hold on. In the last seven games, Khalil Shakur had more yards than one Stephon Diggs on 32 fewer targets. So if he's going to be that efficient. Now, we're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:17:54 We're not going to do that. You know, the play that they're running for him is them goddamn shallows, them goddamn crosses. And Shakur was running routes. He was running intermediate routes and deep balls. That's easy. Come on. Now, we both know that. He didn't run none was running routes. He was running intermediate routes and deep balls. That's easy. Come on, now we both know that. He didn't run none of those routes. Do you know they allowed
Starting point is 00:18:11 Stephon Diggs to disappear the last 11 weeks of the season? They purposely, so we could be having this discussion and saying that there's a dip in his production that allowed him to disappear the last 11 weeks of the season.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Ocho, it's okay. And I'm going to put it to you like this. Listen, let me ask you a question. I took my glasses off. That's how serious you know I am. If a man, let's say he's worth $5 billion and he doesn't have a prenup and he's willing to give his wife half, what does that tell you? He's tired of that and he's willing to give up half of his net worth to move on.
Starting point is 00:18:47 They're willing to take on a $31 million dead cap hit for a quarterback. What does that tell you? Well, it tells me that the window of opportunity is closing. You might as well move on anyway. He was in the house. He was in the house. He got burnt up in the house, too. So, in other words,
Starting point is 00:19:05 in other words, to make a long story short, and I'm sorry, I made a, I was long and made it longer than what it should have been. They're saying, right. If we could only get to the,
Starting point is 00:19:14 if we could only get to the divisional round with Stefan Diggs, we can get that far without him. Oh, oh, oh, you can, you can. So who the hell are you going to throw the, who the hell, who the hell are you he gonna throw the goddamn ball to even get there. Let me hear this. Let me hear this. Who they gonna throw the ball to even get there. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. Because let me let me let me let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. What's gonna happen when there's no true number one receiver on the goddamn field. And when you drop back, it ain't nowhere to go with the goddamn ball.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Let's be realistic. What happens when you don't have a prolific elite route runner that changes the dynamic of your offense? It's going to be a cold day in hell in Buffalo when you realize that. I don't care who the fuck you get in the draft. No disrespect to none of them young bulls coming out. It ain't no Stephon D. You said that in Minnesota. With the draft pick they got from Buffalo,
Starting point is 00:20:10 guess who tell the people at home who they selected in Minnesota? Justin Jefferson. You think, is there a Justin Jefferson? Is there a Justin Jefferson? Whoa, whoa, whoa. We talk about the Buffalo Bills that pick what? Pick what, 28? Is there somebody in this draft?
Starting point is 00:20:26 Are you trying to equate somebody in the draft? So they can't trade up? Have you ever heard of trading up? Let me stay with you real quick. Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to be going top five. Malik Neighbors is going to be going top 10. There's one more young boy. What's the young boy?
Starting point is 00:20:44 There's one more young boy. That's the young boy? There's one more young boy that's from LSU. Brian. From LSU. He went number 11. He went number 11. Hey, they're going to be gone.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Ain't going to be no trade up and ain't nobody giving up. Ain't nobody allowing the Buffalo Bills to go get them. Why not? Or trading their pick for them. Man,
Starting point is 00:21:02 those are generational talents that's been to go them first three. They out of their top 10, them boys gone. They are gone. What is Buffalo willing to mortgage to move up to get a top receiver if that's what they choose to do?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Now, maybe they're content with Khalil Shakir or Wondell Robinson, Elijah Moore. I don't know, Ocho. I don't know. I have nothing but respect for the receivers out in Buffalo right now. Nothing but respect. But there is a difference between Steph and everyone else you named that's still on the roster. I'm sure they're good.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I haven't had an opportunity to sit down and watch them boys. I haven't. So I can't say anything bad about them. But what we're not going to do is we're not going to discredit the body of work and the skill set of Stephon Dixon when he can't fucking do it. Because you're just saying they can't put up with it.
Starting point is 00:21:53 He was there. They weren't fucking using him. They weren't using him. But you missed the point of what I'm saying. Even great Randy Moss and T.O., those teams didn't replace their production. But they're saying you're more problem than you're worth.
Starting point is 00:22:10 What don't you get about that? I mean, well, listen. If you're not a problem, they're going to get rid of you any goddamn way because it's the way the business works. They're going to get rid of Lance Fitzgerald. Okay. Listen. He is the motherfucking model citizen. He's the model citizen.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Say that again. Repeat what you just said. He's the model citizen on and off the field. And you think everybody want to be like that? I'm just saying. No. No.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You make it seem like... Everybody does not want to operate like that. That's not the way everybody's wired. That works for Larry Fitzgerald. That doesn't work for Stephon Diggs. It didn't work for T.O. And it didn't work for me. But what you're trying to make it seem like,
Starting point is 00:22:52 it doesn't matter, DeJong. If you become more problem than you're worth, they'll get rid of your ass at Google, Apple, AT&T. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Listen, I understand that. Listen, your girl will get rid of you. Your girl will get rid of you.
Starting point is 00:23:09 That's all. The same concept. And not just football, it's in life in general. That's all. Yeah, but I'm trying to dive deeper in the context. And even if you are getting rid of one of the greatest, one of the best, especially in today's game. And I don't like the fact that we will nitpick at certain things that are out of his control. But I can dive a little deeper and tell you why the numbers look the way they do.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I can tell you why he's upset. I can tell you why he's lashing out and having those emotions where he's considered a diva or he's cancerous. No, because he understands I can help us win these games. There's no reason why I should be in a playoff game and have four or three catches for 40 yards. And we're, and we're really talking about like, Oh, come on, man. We really trying to win. Can I, one more, one more, one more thing. I have a question. I have a question for you. Stay with me, baby chat. I have a question for you. Stay with me, baby. Chad, I have a question for you.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Last year, or just in general, let's be realistic. Who was the Buffalo Bills' best offensive weapon? Josh Allen. He has the ball in his hand. Outside of Josh Allen, who was the Bills' best offensive weapon? Okay. You can say
Starting point is 00:24:25 Stephon Diggs. No, man, don't do that. Don't do me like that, baby. Don't do me like that. What's your point? Come on, man, don't do me like that. He was their best
Starting point is 00:24:37 offensive weapon outside of Josh Allen. They got to the divisional round. The Buffalo Bills says, you know what? With more heart, we can get that disgruntledness
Starting point is 00:24:46 that dissatisfaction that's unhappiness out of here and still get to the divisional round guess what you want to bet they don't I can bet you they don't what you fail to realize is that the way
Starting point is 00:25:02 teams and businesses operate they'll sacrifice a year or two to get that out of the office place or the locker room. You know that. You know that sacrifice you talk about? Guess where the coach going to be?
Starting point is 00:25:17 Guess where the coach going to be? Oh, okay. I'm just saying, this sacrifice we talk about, guess who's going to suffer? The coach. The coach is going to suffer because he's going to get fired. oh okay i'm just saying this sacrifice we talk about guess who's gonna suffer the coach the coach is gonna suffer because he's gonna get fired because if they don't find anybody and i'm telling you now they ain't they're not you're not gonna be able to replace it this ain't no just no any old goddamn right receiver and i don't like the fact that we're talking about him like he's just any old goddamn receiver matter of fact he's so goddamn good that's why he parted the goddamn
Starting point is 00:25:42 discussion to open up that cap look but heigh Cap. But he's going on to a better situation and I want to talk about what he's going to do with goddamn Tank Dale, Nico Collins, and CJ Shroud. Remember? Yes, sir. The last two Super Bowls, who won the last two Super Bowls?
Starting point is 00:26:00 The Chiefs? Their best receiver. Where did he end up going? Because the Chiefs said he's going to be more he end up going? Because the Chiefs say he's going to be more of a problem because if we don't give him what he's asking for, he's going to cause a problem. We're better...
Starting point is 00:26:12 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, it's easy to do that, though. When you have probably the greatest talent to be at the helm at the quarterback position. If you don't have a Patrick Mahomes, there's no way to overcome that.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Are you saying Josh Allen is Patrick Mahomes? I believe Josh Allen is a top five quarterback. No, no. Nobody a Patrick Mahomes, there's no way to overcome that. Are you saying Josh Allen is Patrick Mahomes? I believe Josh Allen is the top five quarterback. No, no. Nobody is Patrick Mahomes. Okay. Okay. I have a question. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:26:33 So you're saying with them getting rid of Stephon Diggs, despite the production or not being able to replace the production, they're going to bring somebody else in and Josh Allen is going to be able to carry the team and be able to make up for that loss of production where Stephon did go on epic which which Mahomes is proving he can do wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast NFL daily with Greg Rosenthal five days a week you'll get all the latest news previews recaps and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee. No dumb hot takes here, just smart hot takes. We'll talk every single game every single week,
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Starting point is 00:28:01 That's what Glo said. But here's the thing, Ocho. If you don't win the title, the day going in. That's what Glo said. But here's the thing, Ocho. If you don't win the title, what have you actually done? So having Stephon Diggs, that's what you're saying. You said that production, where they going to get that? So what did that production get me? To the divisional round.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Okay. What did it get me after that, Ocho? Did it get me to an AFC championship game? Did it get me to a Super Bowl? So in other words, you want me to stomach all that bull jive that he's doing the behavior that he's displaying you want me to stomach that why are we acting
Starting point is 00:28:33 this has always been a part of football in general I mean come on man and guess what what's also been a part of football I told you it depends on who's doing it then it's behavior then it's an issue then it's cancerous it all depends on who's doing it. Then it's behavior. Then it's an issue. Then it's cancerous.
Starting point is 00:28:48 It all depends on who's doing it. The only person that's exempt from the bad behavior is the quarterback. No other position is going to be able to do that, Ocho, especially a wide receiver. You know that. You make it seem like this is all of a sudden just happening. Go back. They're not going to let you do it, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And these guys are not going to change it. These teams, if a team will eat 85 million, what you think they'll do with 31 million? What you think? They ate 50 million with Rodgers. What you think they'll do? Yeah, I understand it. It's the nature of the business. It's the nature of the beast.
Starting point is 00:29:24 It has always been that way. They want you to be robots. They want you to be model citizens. Show no passion. Show no emotion. Just sit on the sideline when things don't go wrong. Just stare out. Show nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:37 That's not the way we operate. That's not the way we are when it comes to playing the game of football. The game of football is a game of emotion and passion and highs and lows, peaks and valleys, and that's just the way it is. And depending on who you are, especially receivers that happen to wear their emotions on their sleeve. Did I say it right that time? We get that label. sleeve did i say it right that time we get that label and i understand and if you play the game which you have you understand why he's feeling that way you understand why he has those outbursts
Starting point is 00:30:12 sometimes but we tend to overlook that purposely can i ask you a question wait a minute give me a minute so i can answer let me wipe my head because i'm i'm in here sweating i like this shit i can talk about this bitch here for a goddamn hour. I like it. So, the street out from your house, you go out there and people say,
Starting point is 00:30:31 hey, Elcho, on Monday, Tuesdays and Fridays, the cops out there. Yes, sir. So, make sure you drive within the speed limit. You know the cops are out there
Starting point is 00:30:40 Monday, Tuesdays and Fridays or Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays. On Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays, how are you going to drive on that street? True. 16 miles an hour. So if receivers know that their behavior is not going to be tolerated and it's going to be judged and looked at differently than the quarterback, why exhibit that behavior?
Starting point is 00:31:09 quarterback why exhibit that behavior so basically what you're telling me is because they have a certain set of rules in place we need you to suppress who you actually are to please get that money go ahead and make 200 million dollars and then you act a fool say i hated every minute of being where i was but you know what i ain't sacrificing none of this money i don't like it i don't like it i I don't like it. Hey, I got another question for you. Hey, chat, stay with me, right? You ready? The NFL, during the tenure that I played,
Starting point is 00:31:34 had a set of rules. And if you break those rules, they take your money and they fine you, right? Did I ever stop getting fined? No. That means you didn't care about your finances. Wait, listen to me. Let me tell you something. I'm one of the best, especially when it comes to
Starting point is 00:31:52 finances, when it comes to saving money. You know why I never stopped getting fined? Because the NFL is all about control. The NFL feels, as players, how do we keep these motherfuckers in line? You take what they value
Starting point is 00:32:07 most the money i didn't care about the money i was gonna make it i was gonna make it regardless i'm playing stay with me now real quick i'm going to play the game of football the way i feel it should be played and the way i played it as a little kid coming out of liberty city optimist i'm gonna come out here and smile i'm gonna talk shit. And when I get in the end zone, I'm going to celebrate. I'm not going to act like I've been there before because I haven't. I worked my ass off
Starting point is 00:32:30 to get to this point. I done practiced goddamn all goddamn week. And if I get in the damn end zone, I'm going to act like I've never been there before because I haven't been. In the NFL,
Starting point is 00:32:42 again, they take your money because it's the only way they think they can control us because they think that's what they think we value most. Most of us do.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Well, goddamn, I got to behave because if I don't behave, they're going to take my money. That's the whip. That's how they keep niggas in line. Oh, shit, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:32:58 My bad, my bad, my bad. God, I'm sorry. I'm thinking we're in a bar shop. Let me ask you this, Ojo. But you get what I'm trying to say, right? That's how they keep you in line line we know if we take his money we can get into behavior seriously
Starting point is 00:33:12 if the NFL had deemed your behavior conduct detrimental to the NFL it would have been more than a fine wouldn't it uniform ain't conduct detrimental your team didn't view what you were doing as conduct detrimental. Your team didn't do what you were doing as conduct detrimental. As a matter of fact, they said, you know
Starting point is 00:33:30 what? Coach, you're the model teammate. He ain't causing no problems. Therein lies the difference. His team has started to say, this is becoming a distraction. This is starting to drive a wedge in between the team because you got some
Starting point is 00:33:45 guys that were team step and there's some guys that are like man this behavior is not conducive for us winning so now and you know what another i like that i like that you did that but you know what else it does is if he was a model citizen model model citizen they would have found any goddamn way to make sure they can't blame it on the quarterback so the fact that he was one that showed his emotion while he was playing it made him an easy target to take the attention off of the actual problems on why they were failing yeah that's that's what that's what it does you you know no we focusing on digs and digs showing emotion while playing the game and not really address addressing the real issue the elephant in the room on why they're not getting to the asd champion or making it to the super bowls that wouldn't have opportunity to close it and it has nothing to do with stefan
Starting point is 00:34:34 goddamn digs but he becomes if he's there so because he's the easy he's the easy target he's there why doesn't he bear any culpability with with the trans with the transgression he does he does but he's an easy target because he is the face he is the offense he's the one that they're saying is disgruntled and showing emotion on the sideline but let's address all the other issues on why they're not making it because that has nothing to do with stephan digs in general that's a deeper conversation that i really can't dig into. We're not all the facts right here in front of me. But it's not like in these playoff games that he's balling out, that he's going for a buck 90 and three touchdowns? I'm glad you just said that.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I'm glad you just said that. A buck 90 with three touchdowns. You know, with a buck 90 with three touchdowns, the opportunities have to be, they have to come in bulk. They have to come in volume because they're already, when the Buffalo Bills
Starting point is 00:35:30 break the huddle, the defense makes their set on wherever Stephon Diggs lines up. That's how they call their defensive play. Hey, 14 is left. 14 in the slot. With my help, with my help.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Man, come on now. I think what we could do, but we don't have time to. And if I had the numbers in front of me, I could really, really break it down game by game. As you can see how we did in the regular season and the last 11 weeks of the season. And how it carried over into the playoffs and how the numbers suffered drastically and how they allowed team to take him away. And instead of finding ways to force feeding the ball
Starting point is 00:36:16 and finding ways to put him in position to make plays, to kind of change the outcome of the game. No, they didn't do that. We didn't do that. They didn't do that. didn't do that sometimes players can allow themselves to be taken away by moping and pouting on the field let's hear what deshaun jackson think he knows why stefan digs left buffalo d jack it's deeper like you said it's not just him not being a football player or being able to you know get the statistics you know it's
Starting point is 00:36:42 something deeper and we don't i don't really i can't sit here and tell you, I know, but I just know as far as quarterback, receiver, they really didn't have, I wouldn't say they went eye to eye, but it was just more of him wanting to win, I think, you know what I'm saying? And I don't feel like he thought they was going to be able to beat the Chiefs. That's AFC East, I'm not the AFC East, the AFC Conference is the Chiefs. And I feel like, I think he would rather go with the young quarterback and, you know, a new team that's driving,
Starting point is 00:37:06 I mean, that's thriving instead of staying with the Bills where they, every year, are getting beat by the Chiefs. He didn't think they could beat the Chiefs. That's a statement right there. I mean, that's...
Starting point is 00:37:15 Hey, man, we've seen it year after year after year. I mean, what is it, about four or five years? It's been tough. They couldn't beat Cincinnati either. They couldn't beat Cincinnati either. They couldn't beat Cincinnati either. Yeah, listen.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Because they got Joe Burrow. What do you expect? We got Joe Burrow. Let me ask you a question. Was he there when they lost to Joe Shiesty in Cincinnati? Was Stephon Diggs, did he play? Okay. Yes. Listen, that's not fair. Don't do me like that. I really don't have numbers
Starting point is 00:37:44 in front of me to really argue back and argue back and go and fight tooth and nail on every little thing. But again, with the homie, with D Jack said, with the homie on hood, I love D Jack and he has an understanding. I don't think he really wanted to say it like he, like he wanted to based on where we're at, but I'll say it for him. I'll say it for him. He's going to a better situation. Josh Allen is great. As great as he is, he's going to have to show he's as good as we think he is
Starting point is 00:38:10 without that elite talent around him. He's going to have to show it now because again, when you don't have a true number one, things get very difficult when you don't have a guy that you can count on come hell or high water
Starting point is 00:38:24 where I can put a blindfold on my quarterback and snap the ball guy that you can count on come hell or high water, where I can put a blindfold on my quarterback and snap the ball and know I can count on this dude. Nine times out of ten, they get open for me. Interesting. So he don't want to grind it out. He want to go jump to a ready-made team. That's neither here nor there. But that's okay. A ready-made team?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Ready-made team? Did they go to the playoffs last year? Did Houston take a coach to the playoffs last year with a rookie quarterback? So are you saying that's a ready-made team? Ready-made team? Did they go to the playoffs last year? Did Houston take a coach to the playoffs last year with a rookie quarterback? So are you saying that's a ready-made team? That's a ready-made team of the fact that they got lucky and got one of the best quarterbacks? Man, don't you do that. Did they make the playoffs last year? The Kansas City Chiefs is a ready-made team.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Did they make the playoffs? Did they win 10 wins last year? Yes or no? Hold on. The Bills made the playoffs last year. That's my point. So, the Bills are a ready-made team too then, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That's a team. Okay. Listen, we're going to see. We're going to see. Here's the thing. Now, watch how Josh Allen numbers struggle without Stephon Diggs. And we're going to come back to this issue when we do a nightcap chat. Y'all remember when the season come and we're going to bring this up. I'm going to say, I'm going to lookiggs. And we're going to come back to this issue when we do a nightcap chat. Y'all remember when the season come and we're going to bring this up.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I'm going to say, I'm going to look at it. I'm going to say what I told you. All I'm going to say is this. This is 13. He wanted out. He wanted out. He wanted out of Minnesota. He's 13.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Listen to Ocho. He wanted out of Minnesota. He wasn't getting a target. He felt he was the best. Okay. They obliged him. He went to Buffalo. He wanted out of Minnesota. He wasn't getting the targets. He felt he was the best. Okay, they obliged him. He went to Buffalo. He was, hey, most targets, most catches, I think third or fourth in yards. Yes, in yards.
Starting point is 00:39:56 He wasn't happy. At some point in time, it's not the destination. It's not Bali. It's not the Maldives not it's not it's not bali it's not the maudis it's not santorini it's the visitor that's going to visit these places that's unhappy well i don't okay okay wait a minute wait a minute the person visiting when he goes to bali when he goes to the bahamas when he goes to the maudis he wants to have a great experience and while he's there on that experience he's going to do all he can to make sure that he gets that experience with the amenities that are at his disposal so when he's doing his
Starting point is 00:40:35 job because the numbers reflect just that at minnesota the numbers reflect just that at buffalo well goddamn i'm not getting the goddamn results I want. I really don't have no goddamn problem. Well, send me the fuck on elsewhere. He's the only one that didn't get the results he wanted. Everybody else got the results they wanted in Buffalo except him. No, but I mean, everybody else ain't getting shit done.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Everybody else was trying to be passive-aggressive on the internet, which I told you. Listen, but wait a minute, wait a minute. Let's read into this. You got to understand, he's in a better place. He's in a better place than he can be. You and I have been discussing
Starting point is 00:41:18 this for like 35 minutes. All I'm saying is this. Hold on. We've been talking for 35 minutes, bro? But all I'm saying is this. Is that I told you been talking for 35 minutes but all I'm saying is this is that I told you this day was coming sooner rather than later you did you did you did you did and I kind of tried to argue the fact because I love Steph I love Josh Allen and I understand that little dynamic and what they have was great and I also understood the window opportunity was closing especially how they allow team to take him away when it matters most.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I just didn't want to say, I just didn't want to agree with you, so I was arguing just to argue the fact. Dwight Freeney spoke to PMAC today, Pat McAfee, and talked about the current rules in the NFL and compared to the rules during his career. Freeney, I'd retire at the perfect time. Do you agree? I mean, Dwight Freeney said it. Tom Brady's come out and said it. Many other players have come out and said it about the way the game has changed in general. And everyone has addressed their sentiments on the direction of the game to this point.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Again, the NFL is doing it. What's the key word that they say is for what? Safety, right? Yeah, the key word is for safety, but there are other little things that they continue to put in to continue to drive and generate revenue. Yeah, to continue to drive and generate revenue
Starting point is 00:42:44 because at the end of the day, the NFL will always be about their money. About their money. It's come... There's no other way around it. Always. Even though they will lead and preach about safety as much as they do
Starting point is 00:43:00 and try to change the game for the betterment of the players and long term... NFL don't write checks. They receive as they do and try to change the game for the betterment of the players and long-term... NFL don't write checks. They receive checks. Let me tell you how much they care about safety. You know Christmas falls on Wednesday this year. Guess what they're going to have
Starting point is 00:43:15 on Wednesday, Ocho? Guess what they're going to have on Thursday also, Ocho? Guess what they're going to have on Friday, Ocho? Don't get me if I'm wrong now. Guess what they're going to have on Friday Ocho don't get me if I'm wrong guess what they're going to have on Saturday Ocho guess what they're going to have on Sunday Ocho so you mean to tell me a team's going to play
Starting point is 00:43:34 unless you got a bye week so you mean to tell me a team's going to play Sunday and then turn right around and play again on Wednesday hey but everything that we do Ocho is for safety it's for safety you got
Starting point is 00:43:47 listen you got to be able to see through the smoke and mirrors and understand what it is at the end of the day you got to be able to see through it I mean it's great for us Ocho
Starting point is 00:43:55 cause we got you know we gonna be on we gonna be on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday Saturday, Sunday, Monday we gonna be rolling we rolling six days straight right right but I'm just I'm just saying I think the thing is Saturday, Sunday, Monday. We're going to be rolling. We're rolling six days straight.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Right, right. But I'm just saying, I think the thing is that if people really saw that, like, I understand, look, there are certain elements of the game that they try to take out. I understand the horse calling. I understand the hip drop.
Starting point is 00:44:18 And I understand a lot of things, Ocho. But you can't say safety is our number one concern and then you add a game. And then you look, and they say, well, in 2030, we're looking to go to 18-game schedule. Yeah. I mean, damn near, you're going to be, hey, Ocho pretty soon,
Starting point is 00:44:34 they're going to be playing damn near the March. And then guess what? A lot of teams have already started OTAs. Yeah. Oh, you know what? That's right. That's right, right, right. I mean, off-season program.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Off-season program. Yeah, they started this week. Yeah Oh you know what That's right That's right Right right I mean off season program Off season program Yeah they started They started this week So if you push Everything back Let's just say two weeks The Super Bowl this year Was what
Starting point is 00:44:52 February 11th February 12th Push it back two weeks Now the combine Is probably the second Third week And then you got Like what
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Starting point is 00:46:20 Rasheed Rice was driving the Lamborghini involved in a multi-crash in Northeast Dallas on Saturday night, his lawyer said in a Thursday news conference. Police say that the drivers of the Lamborghini and a Corvette was speeding and lost control at the time of the crash. The Lamborghini hit a set of medium wall, causing a chain reaction collision involving four of the vehicles. The driver of the Lamborghini and Corvette ran from the scene. driver of the Lamborghini and Corvette ran from the scene. Two of the other drivers involved in the crash were treated at the scene for minor injuries and two occupants of another vehicle was taken to the hospital with minor injuries.
Starting point is 00:46:51 On Wednesday, Rice claimed full responsibility for his part in the crash in an Instagram story. Nobody cares about anybody else that was driving the Corvette because they're not in the NFL and they're not even not Richie Wright. Today, I met with the Dallas PD investigators regarding the Saturday's accident. I take full responsibility for my part in the matter and will continue to cooperate with the necessary authorities.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I sincerely apologize to everyone impacted in Saturday's accident. Yeah. Yeah, they'll, what, two driving too fast conditions and reckless driving, but failing to render aid. He left the scene, don't you? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Yes, sir. You know, I'm not good when it comes to law, especially laws of this matter, as far as leaving the scene of an accident or rendering aid. Do you understand the punishment for one for one i think rashid rice needed something like this he needed something like this not about getting in trouble but to understand the people that he's surrounding himself with to understand the people that he's surrounding himself with they mean him no good to even allow him to be doing the things that he was doing. Again, if you have a group of people, somebody got to be the brains. Somebody got to be the brains for him if he's not going to be thinking straight.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Somebody has to keep order. Somebody has to keep that discipline in the entourage that you got. Everybody can't be a dummy. Everybody can't. Somebody got to be the brains of the group. Hey, yo, man, listen, man. If we going, wherever we going,
Starting point is 00:48:34 we can't be out here racing. Yeah, that's a felony. That's a felony. We can't be doing that. Failing to end the race. Leaving the seat of a crime. We can't be doing that. Speeding, end the raid. Leaving the scene of a crime. We can't be doing that. Speeding, too fast for conditions.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Reckless driving. Yeah, we can't be doing that. God forbid, I mean, I don't, probably, they left the scene. Who knows if they was intoxicated? Because now you bring a whole new charge into the mix. Luckily, luckily, no one was seriously injured. Or, that's what they're saying now. Once they find out who it was, all of a sudden they're going to miss some time.
Starting point is 00:49:08 But you know how that works, Ocho. Oh, yeah. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Again, but on the back end, sometimes you need to make this mistake in life when you're young. Because it takes situations or moments like this to sit your ass down and understand and reflect. Sometimes you don't get a second chance.
Starting point is 00:49:29 At some point, he's going to, after he, obviously, the NFL is probably going to come down. Yeah, he'll miss, he'll miss,
Starting point is 00:49:35 I think he'll miss a minimum of two games, probably somewhere between the two to three, maybe four, the high end, probably peel it, get down to two.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah, yeah. But still, sometimes you need stuff like this to reel your ass back in. But again, when you're on your high horse, when you're making a little money, you got some friends, you're coming off a Super Bowl win, you feel invincible. You feel invincible, Unc.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And this is God's way of saying, all right, now you take all this shit for granted if you want to, let me reel your ass back in and sit you down. Yeah. And he'll sit you down every time.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Every time. Just to humble you real quick and then check the people around you. Check the people around you because somebody got to be the brains. Oh, Joe. He's the golden ticket, right? If you got an entourage, if you got an entourage and you know... They got to keep me brains. Ocho. He's the golden ticket, right? If you got an entourage,
Starting point is 00:50:25 if you got an entourage, and you know the golden ticket is with you, come on, man. You don't even let the golden ticket move like that. You think it long term. Ocho, but you know sometimes, Ocho, you know how we are, Ocho. Man, this is my money.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Sit, Ocho. Hey, you can leave if you want to. You don't like what I'm doing? Ocho, come on now. You know how we are, Ocho. Hey. Don't, don't, never. And if you got a camp full of yes men,
Starting point is 00:50:53 they don't need to be around you then. But you got to have somebody that can be able to tell you whether you got money or not. Man, listen, we ain't doing this. Matter of fact, you ain't doing that. But let me ask you this, Ocho. What's the likelihood
Starting point is 00:51:04 of you doing something in a public setting and nobody's capturing be the is cctv maybe the stores have it maybe there's cameras around the city or somebody with their camera phone because people got them coming somehow they showed up on that they had people walking away from the scene so it had to be so what's the likelihood of you doing something and getting away with especially in public yeah i mean that is it today's time there are cameras everywhere cameras are everywhere so you ain't getting away with nothing no face no case no name no blame yeah i saw his face and we knew his name so that's it it's very unfortunate
Starting point is 00:51:46 and thankfully he needs to thank the lucky stars above and to the man above that nobody was seriously injured because we just saw we just saw an incident a couple of days, a couple of years before he got there when Andy Reid's son was drinking
Starting point is 00:52:02 and ended up physically she's going to be going to need her parents' assistance for the rest of her life. The story that was plastered all across was Henry Ruggs. Ocho. Some things, Ocho, like I said, some things Ocho
Starting point is 00:52:25 like I said some things you don't think and maybe because it was so far I don't know Henry Rose man I wasn't here when Andy's son got did that did what he did right so maybe it's not it wasn't close enough
Starting point is 00:52:42 for him but bro at this point in time, man, come on, guys. Just be just, you're going to make some mistakes. But man, I'm just trying, and I knock on wood, I'm very fortunate. Like I said, once I did that, that the mistake doesn't cost someone or you your life. Life, yeah. That's a terrible, that's a terrible, imagine you got to bear that for the rest of your life,
Starting point is 00:53:11 that your carelessness, your recklessness, your negligence, because how do you say sorry to somebody? Oh, Joe, how do you make that? Just imagine somebody having to give your mom and father, your family, that message that your son or daughter isn't coming home tonight and never coming back home.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Now imagine you are the responsible party that caused somebody to have to go tell somebody else's family. They're not coming home. Yes! That's tough. O Yes! That's how I think. How can I make sure I get
Starting point is 00:53:52 home? Because I don't want nobody to deliver that news to my family and my kids and I damn sure don't want to be the responsible party to have somebody have to deliver it to their family and their kids. Right. Because, you know, at the time when you're doing stuff, you don't somebody have to deliver it to their family and their kid. Right. Cause you, I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:06 you know, you don't, at the time when you're doing stuff, you don't really think about it. You're not thinking like that. When you're young. Absolutely not. You're not thinking like that. You're not thinking like that.
Starting point is 00:54:16 But I like the fact that the, the, the, the, um, the greatest apology is change behavior. I'm glad that he accepted responsibility and accountability for his actions. And you guys are other professional athletes and people that's watching this podcast.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Come on, let's let's do better. Let's do better. Guys, thank you so, so much. Ocho. Boy, I told you, these mad capers, we passed the Kelsey's with the Webby's. Yeah, we passed them so far. That's good, baby.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Hey, I appreciate y'all. Matter of fact, I'm sending everybody in the chat $1,000. Let's go. Hey, me and Unc, we sent everybody in the chat $1,000 Unk ain't got no bread right now Unk money jump funny No I don't jump funny
Starting point is 00:55:11 Cause you just showed us a watch that cost $200,000 What watch I showed you Ocho What was that on your What was that on your Ocho what I showed you What Ocho What's that on your wrist? That's a Rolex. That's a Rolex.
Starting point is 00:55:27 How much that cost? A little something, something, you know. A little something, something. Well, listen, we... Listen, it's only... How many people we got in the chat right now? Chat, how many y'all it is? See, Ocho, see, the thing is, it's hard
Starting point is 00:55:40 because then people start coming sending fake accounts. Remember how we tried to do the money oh and we got you know the next thing we know we had we had 300 people right that had that account it's so hard it had the same man okay my bad my bad my bad all right chat we're gonna think of something else we're gonna think of a way to bless y'all because if we win this goddamn webby if we win this webby i'm telling you i'm going to get remember i remember i had uh the fake um uncle nojo tattoo right here the teardrop i'm gonna get one for real no what you got you got that richard what you got oh this ain't nothing but it's a philip plan okay
Starting point is 00:56:17 you know philip plan right you know it don't cost nothing like that right there oh you thought you thought it was a richie Millie because you saw the neon green. You do realize if you give everybody in the chat $1,000, that's $18 million, right? That's how much? $18 million. How many people we got watching? $18,000.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Oh, shit. Okay. $20. I'm tripping. I'm joking. I didn't make you realize what you were saying. So I... You know what? Matter of fact, like all boys should decide. Everybody in the chat, they know me.
Starting point is 00:56:55 If I had money like McKenzie Bezos, my crazy ass would do it for real too. You see the way she's been giving away money? God damn. Is there a catch to it that i don't know about that she knows just because it's that she deems worthy um 640 million to date well she's giving 640 no no she's giving away more than that she's giving away billions she's just giving away 640 million probably this year but i mean she gave away like two three billion probably this year. But I mean, she gave away like $2-3 billion within the first six months that she got the settlement.
Starting point is 00:57:29 All right, they got to be a catch. They got to be a catch. She can't just be doing it just out the... Is she doing it to piss Jeff off? Nah, Jeff don't care. He's like the first or second richest man. He's worth $200 billion. But remember, see what I said?
Starting point is 00:57:44 He was willing to do that. So what does that tell you? Oh, he wanted that. He wanted that off his plate. Okay. Think about it. I like how you did that. I like how you reverted back
Starting point is 00:57:56 to the Buffalo situation. That was a good one. That was a good one. Check this out. Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson calls the Chiefs to move back to Texas. Voters in Jackson County, Missouri rejected an effort by the Chiefs to renovate Arrowhead. Voters in Jackson County, Missouri rejected an effort by the
Starting point is 00:58:06 Chiefs to renovate Arrowhead Stadium and build a new stadium for the Kansas City Royals. Mayor Johnson posted an article about the vote, what it could mean for the future of the Chiefs with a playful comment, Welcome home, Dallas, Texas. The team that is now known as the Chiefs were founded
Starting point is 00:58:21 in Dallas, Texas, 1959 by the great Lamar Hunt, who's the father of Kansas the Chiefs, were founded in Dallas, Texas, 1959 by the great Lamar Hunt, who's the father of Kansas City Chiefs owner, before relocating to Kansas City. Clark Hunt is now the owner. His father, Lamar Hunt, coined the term
Starting point is 00:58:37 Super Bowl. I don't think Mayor Johnson liked being mayor. Jerry ain't let no other team, Jerry ain't let no Johnson like being mayor. Jerry ain't let no other team, Jerry ain't let no team come to Dallas. Yeah, absolutely not. And he definitely not,
Starting point is 00:58:51 listen, one of the things, let me tell you the problem. Can you imagine the Chiefs going to Dallas? No. Can you imagine that? Forget that part. How about the best team in Dallas
Starting point is 00:59:03 isn't even the cowboys right now how about that i mean my bad texas yeah sorry the best jerry wasn't pleased about that jerry like being alone with the houston when the houston orleans moved out he's like oh they went they went to tennessee they went to uh yeah they went to tennessee um he's, he was like, whoo. Yes. But 95, they say, uh, no.
Starting point is 00:59:30 So when the Texans came, when the Texas, when the Texas came back in like 2000, so when the Texans came back, like, well, damn. Cause you know,
Starting point is 00:59:39 everybody liked being the only show in town. Cause where'd you go? Wait, wait, let's go. If I got the only convenience store within a five mile radius, guess where you got to do business at? If I only got the only sporting event, the only professional football team, guess where you got to go to get your football? Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Right. You're right. But there's some cowboys holding the topic. But I mean, listen, dude, man, he don't want to be man no more. Did I not talk like that? Nah, definitely don't. Definitely don't. He trying to sabotage whatever it is he got going on.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Ocho, LeBron James and J.J. Reddick both admitted to watching their own highlights on YouTube from time to time, particularly doing a slump. Ocho, do you watch your highlights? Yeah. But, listen, let me tell you watch your highlights? Yeah. But listen, let me tell you something. I've been retired, what, 12, 13 years? Man, I go to family functions. You know I'm that uncle.
Starting point is 01:00:37 At family functions, you know, the younger generation that might not know, I tell them, boy, I was that boy, now. I pull up my phone quick. Boy, look at this. I'll be quick. Well, look at this. No. Hey, I'll be quick, man. Look at this. I ain't Googling myself.
Starting point is 01:00:49 No? If, like, on my timeline, like, there's, like, Mile High Sports or somebody say, on this date, uh, Shannon Sharp
Starting point is 01:00:58 or the Broncos did this, Shannon Sharp, and I'll look at it. But as far as, like, going to YouTube, you're like, okay, on this, no. No. Oh, no. Oh, I, okay, on this, no. No.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Oh, no. Listen, I ain't got no shame. I'm going to show you who I was. I'm going to show you. Sometimes you got to let the young folk know what you was that boy. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I'm going to pull it up. Sometimes I watch my... I sit back, I watch my highlights and I'd be like, God damn. I was really good. I was okay. I sit, I sit back, I watch my highlights and I'd be like, God damn. I was really, I was really good. I was okay.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I was an okay receiver. I was really good. I just look at some of the stuff I was able to do. And, and you know, it's funny, you know, the worst part about it is, is the fact that I still think I can do what I see on goddamn tape. That's the worst part. That's the worst part for me. In my mind, I really, you know how I talk confident now.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I still think I can do it. I just, you know, the body, the body and the mind and the brain. The mind is willing, but the body ain't able. And you know, the mind knows exactly what to do. But you know, ain't no spark plugs.
Starting point is 01:02:03 The spark plugs ain't fine. But you know, ain't no spark plugs. Spark plugs ain't fire. Yeah. Oh, man. That's why I keep a young one. Where you going to do that spark plug? How you going to get a spark?
Starting point is 01:02:18 Okay. I like what you're doing with that one. What you do? You get a jump from another one. That way, okay, Craig, one of them young ones jumping. Boom. Get him. I get it going, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:02:40 But no, but I tell you what I do do. I do go to YouTube and I look, I'm like, damn, Ocho at but no, but I tell you what I do do. I do go to YouTube and I look, I was like, damn, Ocho at 6.4 million views. How many more he need to get 6.5 or Coach Prime or I'll go back and look at that and see
Starting point is 01:02:55 how many views you guys have gotten. But I don't go back, like I said, if it don't come up on my timeline, I mean, for the most part, I can tell you what i did i did it i did that i did that and and yeah yeah but it's different man when you when how you just go back and sit back and just have an appreciation for your contribution in the nfl and just sit back and watch the highlights man it did it bring back it bring it bring back great memories don't
Starting point is 01:03:23 you go when you go to cincinnati people tell you like man I remember y'all did this or you did that man it's when I go back to Colorado I was just back in Colorado like a week ago and to hear the people how they appreciate how I played and what I did and the contributions I gave to the Broncos. Right. Man, I'll take the word for it. I'll take the word. Okay. I'll take the word for it. I'm just at a... Because I haven't been anywhere, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Even when I went back home, I didn't... We used to have get-togethers, and we just talked about that. Boy, you a bad boy. It made me feel good because those guys, a lot of
Starting point is 01:04:05 the people they grew up with me and they saw you know ever since i was a little boy and you know they would come watch me play in high school and and so but as i once i got to the league and i would go back home i never i never showed any of my any of my highlights no no i mean we not not in that setting not in that setting. Not in that setting, obviously. But listen, any family function that I go to, and, you know, the young kids, you know how they like the Cam Newton situation. How the young kids be talking trash.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Now, sometimes there's such a huge gap from when the younger generation wasn't able to see me play in that family function. Hey, I tell you no lie, but I pull that shit up quick and I go inside and put the TV on airplay so it's planned. Well, that's me.
Starting point is 01:04:52 So it's planned on TV. Listen, y'all don't be sitting here talking no trash because what you talking? I did that live. 24-7 in the line of fire when we're counting. When I go back home, Ocho, for the most part, when I was going back home regular young in my career,
Starting point is 01:05:09 when they had kids, the young ladies and the men, the guys, they would always tell the kids, I went to school with Mr. Shen. They would always have their kids address me as Mr. He's in the NFL. And if you work hard and blah, blah, blah, maybe you can go there or maybe you can do this. I will say this for the most part, I've really never had to deal with any disrespect. Um, in my hometown, they always,
Starting point is 01:05:37 they always gave, they always show me love because you know, I was, I was never, I'd never, even though I was in the NFL, it wasn't like, man, I'm too good for y'all. Man, whatever. We joke, we laugh, have a good time. We come over to have cookouts. I remember one, I was in the hotel and somebody was blowing the horn. I'm like, who the hell is blowing this?
Starting point is 01:05:58 Ocho, you know I'm on one. You know how my patience is, Ocho. I remember saying, man, if they blow this horn one more time, man, that joke will be laid on the horn. Man, I wouldn't put my shorts on. It was somebody you knew, huh?
Starting point is 01:06:15 It was my crazy-ass homeboy. Hey, y'all, we able to cook out today. I said, where? At your house. Let me say this, okay? I said, what y'all have? He said, man. I said, what y'all? I said, man, we got $100. We have a good old cookout.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I said, with $100? $100? They was going to have a cookout with $100. Right, right, right. I said, what kind of a cookout? I said, man, I don't know what you're thinking, man. A hundred dollars go a long way with a cookout. I said, they ain't going to buy no liquor. So I gave him some money.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And then I said, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to come back in June and I'm going to lay it out for y'all. Man, what you mean? So I had some people. I knew some people. i got bud wiser to donate some beer i got cores like to donate some beer they brought the trucks that you see at the at the convenience store went up right set the beer boom i went yeah i probably spent like three thousand four thousand dollars the top i'm talking about liquor, they never going to drink.
Starting point is 01:07:26 We had 150 steaks. We had 100 pounds of crab legs, 100 pounds of shrimp. We had 150 steaks. We had 200 hot dogs, 200 hamburgers. And I told them, I said, look, once the bottle of alcohol is open, if that's what you're drinking, take it.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Right, right, right, right. I said, the only thing I asked, I pointed to the window. My grandmother was in the window at the time. She was alive. I say, no cursing. We good, we good. No problem. Man, Ocho, we did it for two years. My sister said, Shannon, it's too much.
Starting point is 01:08:01 It's too much. So, you know, I would have port, my sister would have porta potties to come so everybody could just, I mean, we just had a good, I mean,
Starting point is 01:08:09 we had a, not a good time, a great time. Great time. Yeah. The love that my home, that my home, my home boys,
Starting point is 01:08:17 and they gonna, they gonna protect me now. They ain't gonna let you talk crazy about me if you come from out of town. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Hey, that's funny. Obviously that same love for me as well. Obviously here in Liberty City, you know, I'm from Liberty, you talk crazy about me you come from out of town yeah yeah yeah hey that that's funny obviously that same love for my for me as well obviously here in liberty city you know i'm from liberty obviously i'm from liberty city out here in miami i left liberty city without really leaving that makes sense right that makes sense to you so the love i've i've always been shown because i've always stayed true to my what i like to call roots. And I've always been my authentic self. I didn't make it and didn't change. So if you knew me back in 1995 and 1996, or you went to class with me and understood I was a class clown back in 96 and 97 in college, I was the
Starting point is 01:08:56 same person in NFL. Nothing about me had changed at all, ever, never did. And so there was always an authentic and genuine love for me in the hood where people say oh once you make it never go back never had those issues because i was always remain my true self and i think some of the stories um some of the stories i can't remember but some of the experiences that i was able to share and and and allow those that were friends of mine throughout that tenure before i made it once i did make it some of them stories will be so good that i i can't even share them myself i can't even share myself we had some good times man i had uh hey shit that shit got me tearing up a little bit but we had some good times times. All my people, I know they're probably
Starting point is 01:09:45 going to see this, out the 40s, everybody on the pound, everybody out the alley. Bo Vicks, I know they're going to see this. Goma Powell, Peanut,
Starting point is 01:09:53 Chiefy, my brother Sam, Chauncey, and then my Cincinnati in. Ryan, fucking Maine, Lopes, Locke,
Starting point is 01:10:02 and everybody got together. Remember when I grabbed the TV camera and put it on the section? Boy, I had about 50 dudes in town. 50 dudes. I got my people from Cincinnati
Starting point is 01:10:13 and they got my dudes out of the city, out of the hood. Some of them ain't never really been out side of Miami. I grabbed that camera so fast just to get them boys
Starting point is 01:10:24 some TV time. Nobody even understood. I grabbed the camera so fast just to get them boys some TV time. Nobody even understood. I grabbed the camera and put it on them really quick. Now, if you was watching from home, you see the crowd, you see a bunch of just dudes, dreads, mouth full of goals. Everybody went. That was one
Starting point is 01:10:39 of the best films. To me, I think it was my best celebration because I got them boys 10 seconds worth of TV time. And then, the memories and the moments like that are priceless. And for that,
Starting point is 01:10:52 even to this day, the love always, always, always, has always been there. For sure. Always been there.
Starting point is 01:10:58 There's nothing. And again, and you know what else I like? Because I'm sure your people was like that too. Back when we were growing that too back when we were growing up back when we were coming up there was structure and there was discipline so when i'm thinking about the re the rashid rice incident it would have never happened it would have never
Starting point is 01:11:16 happened because there ain't nobody around me even finna let that go down like that. Even if I'm the one that got it. They would always, hey, Sharp, take your, hey, this is you. Yeah, man. Go home. Man, I'm trying to see what... I wish I would get behind a wheel and speed and I got people in the car with me
Starting point is 01:11:35 from that area? I've tried... From that era and that area I'm from? Man, they're going to slap me in the back of the head, man. Man, get your dumb ass, get your dumb ass
Starting point is 01:11:44 out of the driver's seat. What the fuck are you doing? Because they're going to tell my nigga, hey, look, I'm going to tell me in the back of the head, man. Man, get your dumb ass out of the driver's seat. What the fuck are you doing? They're going to tell my nigga, hey, look, I'm going to tell Libby. Because you know everybody. Everybody knew my sister. I'm going to tell Libby now. Yo, man, it was some good days.
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