Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Stingley becomes highest paid DB, Keon Coleman joins the show, Aaron Rodgers still making a decision
Episode Date: March 18, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Stingley becoming the highest paid DB in the NFL, Keon Coleman joins the show and discusses his rookie season! Myles Garrett also elabo...rates on why he staying in Cleveland and much more!06:14 - Show start08:46 - Stingley Signed to new deal31:27 - Keon Coleman joins53:00 - Myles Garrett on staying in Cleveland(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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But first, our thoughts and prayers here at Nightcap.
Go out to Tracy Morgan.
He was sitting courtside with you. I don't know if you've seen the scene.
We're not going to show it.
He was taken out in a wheelchair, but I just want to say our thoughts and prayers here
at Nightcap go out to Tracy Morgan and his family.
Hopefully he's okay.
I'm sure he was taken to a local hospital for a diagnosis and evaluation, but hopefully everything turns out.
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Ocho, we will talk extensively about the Texans.
May Derrick Stingley Jr.
Three years, 90 million.
This deal makes him the highest paid DB.
You was talking about this little Joe
Yeah, they got to that 30 million dollar threshold. Yeah. Yep
30 million dollars in new as a high mark for defensive back
Easily toppling the previous mark set by Carolina Panthers JC Horn. Yeah sign just a week ago for 25 million
David Mugiletta Congrats Dave Apple eats first,. The deal is on behalf of Dave Stingley.
Ref's three of the highest paid cornerbacks
and two of the highest paid safeties.
The LSU team of 2019 Ocho.
Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson,
and Derrick Stingley Jr. have contracts totaling
$600 million.
That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing.
What a M, 600 million.
Yeah. Hey, Derek Stinley is worthy of that contract.
He's worthy and he deserves every single penny.
I'm not sure to the extent that people understand how good Derek Stinley is.
Listen, if I could right now, I would break it down in PowerPoint presentation
so you get a better understanding on why he got the deal he did get. He's
electric.
Technique sound. Man to man, off coverage, rarely out of position, ball skills, elite.
There's really no weakness in his game. In the run game, he'd come up there and smack you too.
Oh, yeah. Hey listen, when I talk about an all around corner that does it all, he is much so deserving
of this contract.
Listen, at some point, people in the chat, if you're listening, if you're watching, just
watch Derrick Stingley highlights from college, even at LSU, and watch him even in NFL against
some of the upper echelon receivers, and you'll understand why he got that money he's the real deal obviously plays in Houston he doesn't
talk much so he doesn't get the notoriety or the cameras always on him
but man listen he might not talk but he play a big game but he plays a good game.
He ain't saying nothing, he plays through all that talking. He plays loud as hell.
Yeah can you imagine if he had personality to go with it on?
Imagine if he had a personality like Deon or something like that.
Then he wouldn't be there.
See, Ocho, his thing is you want everybody to be like you and I
that can talk and still go out there and play.
Some people, they talk and get themselves out of their game.
Right, right, right, right.
You and I, we talk to get people out,
because that's what we grew up doing.
Yes, sir.
I was always the smallest, so I tried to talk somebody out of their game.
So it was natural for me to go out there
and bull jive and say whatever.
You can't, cause whether I said a little or a lot,
not a lot, I still had to play.
Yeah, no matter what.
So if I didn't say anything, so what?
If I don't say anything, y'all gonna go easy on me?
Nah, F y'all.
All y'all, you too, punk.
Yeah. But no, but y'all. It's all y'all. You too, punk.
But, no, but he is good.
And David Mugaleta,
I know Dave very well.
He gets the deal done.
Rocky Arsenal,
I know Rock,
I've been knowing Rock for a long time.
He did Chase,
Chase and
T Higgins. The first person I knew he had was He did Chase and a T.
T, yeah.
The first person I knew he had was Marshall Faulk.
So that's how I met him at the Pro Bowl one year over there with Marshall.
He also did Zeke Elliott.
He's a New Orleans native.
So that's how I know Rock.
But David Mugaleta gets the deal done.
And he got it done. Athletes first. They do big things.
They got a lot of clients over there and I love when the brothers are doing
things and guys shaping up with those guys and so I appreciate David and what
you've been able to do. Congratulations on this deal. But Stingley, congratulations
to you bro. You earned that. I believe people earn what they
deserve. He earned this with his play.
Yes.
All the feel has been exemplary.
And I like, this is what I love the most, old Joe.
When guys don't have to look, bro, I've done it.
You reward me because guess what?
If I wasn't living up, you release me.
So why I gotta come to you and ask you about my money?
Right, right, right, right, right.
And I don't wanna hear that. I don't wanna hear when you signed the contract. So why I gotta come to you and ask you about my money? Right, right, right, right, right.
And I don't wanna hear that.
I don't wanna hear when you signed the contract.
How many players do they cut with years left on their contract?
That signed the contract.
And y'all are getting the N's and I'm like, oh, oh, he signed, no.
So it needs to work both ways.
I ain't got no problem.
If somebody underperforms and you wanna move move on Move on. Yes, but when they over perform
Come on, ward them break bread. We reward them and matter of fact, this is it. Give me me
Yeah, listen, we talked about Patrick certain the second got his deal. JC horn got his deal
Derek Stanley got his deal chat. Y'all know who up next, right?
Eric Sinley got his deal. Chad, y'all know who up next, right?
Sauce.
Sauce is up next.
And Sauce talked about, he tweeted,
if I'm not mistaken, about how come we as DBs
aren't paid as well, compensated as well as
the defense ends.
Defense ends are seen in a different light
as far as game changes, being able to impact the game
much more different than that of a corner.
But when you think about it, there are some corners in today's game that could impact
a game too by shutting down one side of the field.
Patrick Surtain is in that group.
I think Derek Schilling is one of those where teams have to be cautious and going at him
depending on who the receiver is or who they are playing.
And I think Sauce can also be in that group as well.
You know what I meant to do?
I think a lot of people probably wouldn't agree.
People will argue about Sauce and listen,
Sauce is very good.
He had a down year.
He had a down year this year,
but the first two years was really good.
It's hard, Ocho.
It's hard.
If you're not technically sound,
if you're not technically sound,
they're gonna try your ass.
Hell yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely.
But this is the thing, to me,
you might not agree with me,
some of the people in the chat might not agree with me,
but as a receiver myself and a former DB,
you know, I played both sides of the ball,
I believe that the defensive back position
is a harder position to play in football.
It is, it is.
Simply for the fact that you were doing everything at full speed,
which you're often going to do in reverse, going back
with somebody, somebody elites, the Jamar Chases,
the T. Higgins, the George Pickens,
going at you full speed, the Tyrick Hills.
I mean, come on, man.
You know, so I mean, that's, listen,
I'm always a fan and enthusiastic when it comes to defensive backs in their play
Especially when they get rewarded like this, you know salute distinctly
Sauce garden you up next baby. You gotta reset the market. You gonna reset the market again. Let's go. Let's go for 32
What's it called? I'm gonna be a trip McDuffie
I hate that McDuffie hadn't made a Pro Bowl or been an All-Pro,
because now you're talking about 13 million in his fifth year option,
as opposed to 22, 23 million in his fifth year option.
And so that's the thing that I really hate about it.
But it's kind of like basketball.
You're on the first, one of the first three teams of all NBA,
you're a defensive player of the year, you're all NBA selection.
That increases the value.
But man, so much is contingent on things
that are outside of your control.
Like the media votes on, you know, the all pro.
Fans and coaches and stuff vote,
because the players only have a third of the vote.
So it's tough, and I really want these guys
to get what they've earned.
And I think Trent Mcduffey is one of the better corners
in the football league.
Absolutely.
And I want his play to indicate that.
Right.
But that's what happens.
Quarterbacks ain't gotta do that.
No.
These quarterbacks be getting that money,
ain't been nowhere near first team or second team or 10 team all-pro. Yeah.
And they get that money and with no hesitation. Yeah. And listen, they will always treat the quarterback position that way.
That's obviously the most valuable position on the field,
regardless who has and touches the ball most of the time.
It will always be that way.
Especially when you got the special ones.
How many years did Josh Allen still have on this contract?
I think he had four.
Man, listen, they don't play.
They do not play when it comes to them quarterbacks.
Especially the elite ones.
Oh, you gonna get your money.
Yeah, and I like that.
I ain't got no problem with that, O, yeah, I know I ain't gonna never have no uh, uh
He was a rookie season second season once again blah blah blah. Oh
Oh Joe he was he was our first team all-pro last year. Oh
McDuffie, yeah, so I he gonna get oh so he nags oh Joe. Yeah, you know you don't get it
After this season, they gonna come see see you they got to come see me
they go come say listen I want I want the knock on the door to be real loud
too I want to knock on the door to be real loud don't know nobody don't don't
be ashamed oh Joe I want you to have me my hair match a cut under the door. I don't want nobody to know. Hey, that's a hell of a...
Hey, one thing about it, they gonna know.
Oh, for sure.
That check coming from that entity,
oh, they gonna know.
Yeah.
And look,
these guys are so good now, Ocho and the money.
I mean, you know what, Ocho, it slipped my mind
because I have a thousand things going on. I wanted to call Ty today. Hey, Ty, mean, you know what? Oh, it slipped my mind because I have a thousand things going on
I wanted to call pride. I want to call time today. Hey time man. You see what's thinking the guy time
Well, how much did he had to pay you?
Time I already know to go say many they had to give me a part of the team
Hey, they would have to do something. You had to give dad to give me a part of the team
You know prime. Yeah
That's the thing that I wish.
And these guys are unbelievable.
But I just wish, sometimes I just wish we can transport
those guys that you and I played in the era with.
Right, right.
And so the people today can actually,
not highlights, cause highlights don't really do it.
No, that don't do you no justice.
That don't do you no justice. That don't do you no justice.
I tell it to you all the time.
You can hear the passion in my voice.
My voice start cracking.
When I talk about the Randy Mosses,
I talk about the Terrell Owens,
I talk about the Marvin Harris and the Jimmy Smiths.
What people don't understand,
watching highlights is one thing,
but I gotta take my shades off.
If you had the opportunity to see these people
play in person up close,
you will understand as great as the receivers are today
They cannot touch no disrespect
No disrespect. They can't touch them individuals on because you got looking at it is different the guy you're naming
They're the three best of all time. You just made Ross, you named Moss, Rice, and T.O.
Right now.
Hey, being able to see it in person, man, you don't understand.
Being able to see them boys up close in person and as great as Jamar Chase is, as great as
Justin Jefferson is, we can go down the line.
The Tyreek Hills and all of them, they was on a different stratus field.
It's different. All of them, though, they was on a different stratus field.
It's different.
It's like, I'm in the NFL with you,
and I'm on the sideline like this in awe
of watching Moss play, bruh.
You had to watch him.
I'm on the field watching T.O.
I'm in awe.
I'm like, god, Lee, boy, I'm really sharing
the same field with these boys.
When we played Jerry Rice, he was in Oakland. I'm a legit, I'm really I'm really sharing the same field with these boys when we played Jerry Rice. He was in Oakland
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I'm like, oh man, I'm getting ready to share the field.
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This is, these are the things I don't want to forget,
but I want to ask him.
I'm, man, man, listen.
When I tell you I was a student of the game,
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Man, shh.
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Jerry got 207 total touchdowns.
Hey Chad, go look at it and see who has the most touchdowns right now.
And you tell me who you think.
Now, I want you to say, before you go and look and see who has the most touchdowns,
who's the closest to Jerry yeah think about
when Jerry played yeah Jerry didn't play when they throw the ball like they do
now yeah they ran the football so just think about that but these guys are
really good Chase man Chase could have played in there the era there are a lot
of these guys and I think that's one of the compliments you can play yeah you
can pay a guy when you say son you can play it in the 80s,
you can play it in the 90s, you can play it in the 70s,
you can play it in the 60s.
When you tell a guy he can do that,
you say that speaks volume.
But these guys, congratulations, guys.
Everything that you get, that you worked hard for,
that you put yourself in position to achieve, congratulations.
Ronnie Staley say he's very happy
to give the Ravens a bargain on the deal.
Ronnie Staley, who was considered the top available offensive tackle this offseason,
chose to resign with the Ravens for a team-friendly three-year,
$60 million deal on March 8th instead of testing for agency. Staley's decision, as he explained,
came down to loyalty. I knew I was going to give Baltimore the best
bargain that I would offer any other team. But that being said, I still wanted
to be happy with what I'm making and make sure I'm getting the value that I
feel like I deserve. I think it was a good balance to help the team and
something I'm still happy with. Ocho at one point in time he was the highest
paid and you know injuries and he took a pay cut.
They cut his salary down.
And when he had an opportunity to hit them over the head with the hammer,
he hit him a little bit, but guys can't...
Now think about it, Ocho.
He stayed for three years, 20 million.
You know you go into the free-edging market, they're going to overpay.
Oh, every time.
Now they might give you five years, 25 million.
Yes, sir.
But he say, you know what, I'm comfortable.
Yeah.
A la Josh Allen.
Mm-hmm.
What can I do with, what can I, what can I do with 60 million
that I need 80 million to do?
Considering, I'd already got this big deal.
Cause at the end of the day, Ocho,
I want the guy to do what's in the best interest of him. he's like I a I was a first-round draft pick got money
They gave me a contract extension and they believed in me
Because when I was going through that I missed the better part of a year and a half almost two years
They stuck with me. They stay stuck by him. So you listen that that that happened very seldom to all
That happens very seldom. You know how they treat you once you get injured.
You understand how they treat you once you get injured.
Now, when they take care of you the way they took care
of him with great understanding,
then mentally, subconsciously, you know,
if an opportunity like this presents itself
and they're willing to pay you,
that loyalty comes into play because you never forget that.
You never forget that, what they did for you when they don't have to treat you like that because any other team
you hurt, ah,
you know, they push you out there by the pasture.
You know what happened when they push you out to the pasture.
I can't speak to how everybody else do it. You know, we see things, Ocho,
but I was fortunate enough to play for two teams,
very great team, great ownership.
I played for Mr. B in Denver.
He was great, had a different type of relationship with him
than most players have with their owners.
Got into a situation where I needed some help with something.
He said, I got, he gave me his personal attorney's info.
Said, call him.
I called him, name was Rich Slithka.
As a matter of fact, Mr. Bowling left him
and Joe Ellis in charge of his estate.
Now Joe's going to show you what he thought of Rich.
He said, Pat told me that I was expecting your call.
Tell me what's going on.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Got me my money back.
Now would that be, and then I played, go to Baltimore, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
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knows I have the utmost respect and profound respect for Mr. Modell.
He hated calling him Art.
He said Art was his father or grandfather.
I mean, Mr. Modell calls him Art and that's how we refer to him as.
It was great and it's great to see teams
reward their players because a lot of times,
players are more loyal to teams
than teams are loyal to players.
And it's nice to see a player's loyalty
rewarded or reciprocated by said team.
But remember what you said now,
the loyalty was shown to the player first,
therefore it was easy for the player to recipro the loyalty was shown to the player first.
Therefore it was easy for the player to reciprocate that back to the team.
Now what I would love to do is I would love for fans to have that same type of loyalty
to the players as opposed to their team and wanting what's in the best interest of the
players as opposed to their team first.
Fans haven't been able to separate the two.
It's all my team, my team, my team, my team and always leaving the
leaving the players and they raise the price, raise the price,
raise the price, raise the price every year.
Yeah.
And then y'all wonder why the players and the players wonder why
the players they want more money.
Cause they see y'all paying more money than all of them.
Yeah.
So anytime I see a situation like that, old joke.
We ready Ash?
Okay.
Well, so anytime you see a situation like that, old joke, I love it.
I love, I'm big on loyalty.
Yes sir.
I'm big on that.
I give it.
I also want it reciprocated.
If I can do something to help you, I will.
Now I don't do things like, for the most part,
when I do stuff, Ocho, I'm not really expecting anything
in return back.
Right, right.
That's why I only give the amount of money
that I can say, you know what?
I can, I can, I can go without this.
I can eat this.
Yeah.
I can eat this., I can eat this now
If you come to me I come to you us the ultra bro check this out, bro. Yes, sir, man. I need like I
need 50
Wait, what wait say it again say it again. I'm okay. I need 50 50 what you
Hit the band. Oh, yeah, you good. You good. I can get that now
My thing is oh Joe if you come to me and ask for it
Yes, I shouldn't have to you shouldn't have to come back to me and ask for me it back
I need you to be mad enough like you brought your ass to me right all humble
Hey, hey, oh, chillin man, you should expect me to come back. Hey, I got your bread, bro
Yeah, I broke that back. I gotta trace you down by my money.
Right.
Let me tell you what you'll never hear. You didn't know. You didn't know money had a smell, did you Ocho?
But you asked for your money back. Oh you want that old funky hundred dollar bill back?
Yeah I want my funky ass money back. It wasn't funky when you borrowed it.
Hey, hey. That's how you be treating me by that little $5,200.
That little $5,200.
See?
Hey!
You be acting funny by that little $5,200, huh?
You know?
See, that's what I'm saying though.
But guess what?
If I owe you, you be running that bitch in the ground every night.
Nah, honestly, I'll tell you what.
Honestly, if you owe me 5,200,
I'm gonna let you slide for the simple fact
I know if I ever needed it, I know you got it,
so I don't even want it right now.
I don't even want it, I wouldn't even want it right now.
I want mine right now.
You hold on to that, I got you, I got you.
I mean, I could do something with that.
What?
What you gonna do with 5,200?
Think about it, what you gonna do with that?
Give it to me, let me give it to me and I'll tell you later.
I don't want to tell you. I don't want to tell you right now. Give it to me. Give it to me and I'll tell you.
Hey, Ocho, you let 5200 you own me? Let me tell you what I did with it.
That's what I'm gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do right now.
I got you. I got you. I told you last night.
I told you last night.
I've been treating myself this year.
I decided, you know.
Why you ain't treat me?
Huh?
Why you ain't treat me?
No, I'm just saying you're not in the fashion
the way I'm in the fashion.
20, 25 is the year of.
I can't get into it.
Why?
Because I'm fit to 200 show.
I can't get into it. I wanna get into the thing. I wanna get some red bucket
jeans too. Alright Ocho joining us now Bill Zoom had some injuries this year as a rookie
but hey still had a strong rookie campaign. Let's welcome Buffalo Billills rookie Keon Coleman.
Keon what it do?
How y'all doing?
Keon what's up bro where you at baby?
Well Zaheel I'm in Texas right now.
Oh man listen I'm gonna be there tomorrow man
we gonna slide to whatchamacallit.
To what?
Wait you in Dallas or Houston?
I'm in Houston.
Boy, hey what hey.
Boy you in Houston? Boy what you doing out there? You're good. You're not married. Are you?
Nah, nah, okay. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're gonna put some pictures on the wall anytime soon
Yeah, this is this is just a room man. This is a room. This is office fix. Okay
I mean, you know to hang pictures on the office in the office
Not yet. I need to know I need some more pictures like in the air zone, you know, something crazy.
Okay, you come out, obviously, you know, second round draft pick, your rookie season.
What can you take from this season and how do you build on that going into season number two?
Really just stay hungry. I think that's really the thing I
came with, you know, coming out of the season with, stay hungry. Unfortunately injuries and stuff like
that. So just continue to take care of your body. And then, you know, the on the field stuff, you
know, just continue to be where you're supposed to be at. And, you know, the play is gonna have to,
you know, the play, the playmakers gonna make the plays, you know. So all that is gonna fall in line.
Just continue to work harder.
Yeah.
Hey, listen, you had a good rookie season,
29 catches, 500, 256 yards, four TDs.
It was a good showing.
How's your confidence going in year two?
And what do you think the difference is
from playing in college and the transition into the NFL?
Was it difficult?
Most of the time for players is a learning curve
Normally, you don't arrive as we call it till you're three
What do you think you need to improve on going into year two?
So the game slows down for you when the game slows down for you. That's when you know you arrive
So for one of the confidence confidence always on the honey got to be standing at thousand at this point
So I'm gonna come to the going into the next season my connection with Josh and I was that's that's continue to
Conch in the right direction. So confident real high no been getting out to the outfit
It is obviously even training and stuff, but the biggest difference
College to the NFL just got to be more technically sound bro. Yeah, I think you know that much better
Yeah, and he what make it even worse the D line that much faster
So that's all this you get back there faster the ball gonna come out faster and there
Understanding you not always trying against a guy across from you really playing the guy that's got that head so don't call the thief of
place so you really kind of get the DC so
Understanding they tendencies and what they like to do, what they like to take away from certain guys,
that's really who you really be going against.
So once you master that, then you be all right.
I like that, I like that.
Keon, there was a report that came out
that some team, I mean, you don't have to name the team
if you don't want to,
got upset with you from eating fruit snacks in the meeting.
Can you elaborate what was said
and what made you feel like they got upset with you for eating fruit snacks in the meeting. Can you elaborate what was said and what made you feel like they got upset with you
for eating fruit snacks?
I mean, if they wouldn't, if they would've,
the fact that they even mentioned it,
it was like, it was like, you know,
cause it was like a, it was a certain look, man.
You know that look when you were in the meeting room
for the people.
And it's just one of those lips.
And then after they was like,
well, I think they stopped at me and was like, you know,
please, you know, just wait till afterwards to eat the snacks.
I'm like, I ain't really tripping.
You could have waited till after to say that.
You didn't have to interrupt the meeting for that, do you feel me?
But I'm like, cool.
I'm like, you know how you get all them, uh, the formal meets at the, at the con bar.
I had like 15 of them in one day.
This was like number 15.
It was all great business, but I was hungry, bro.
I ain't gonna name the team, no, it ain't that serious.
Right. You went viral for a lot of your comments that you made during the draft
process at the combine. Were you surprised by how much attention your, your,
your, your answers or the questions that were being asked? Are you surprised at
how viral those moments went?
I mean, it was, it was supposed with the social media nowadays, everybody kind of just looking for a clip
or something that's just different.
And it's rare guys just be they self, you know, in those type of situations,
they're more tense or, you know, get a robot answers.
I'm just me, bro. Stuff is just going to be said.
It's just I'm going to be myself 100% of the time.
And, you know, I mean, they did blow up. But I mean, I couldn't say I'm gonna be myself 100% of the time, and you know, I mean,
they did blow up, but I mean, I couldn't say,
I didn't expect it to kind of just happen.
No, it ain't like I was planning for it,
it just kind of was conversation here and there,
and I give you my response and what I think I should say,
and you just go from there.
I think that's why so many fans, including myself,
I talked about it too, about some of the things
that you say, the way you carry yourself.
You authentic, you organic yourself you authentic you organic
You're not you're not politically correct
You're not a robot which most of the time the NFL wants you to be obviously you you understand
There's a fine line
You don't want to cross but you're able to be yourself and what makes it good for you
Why I know you're gonna be a superstar because when you have that that organic
Mentality and you're authentic the way you are and real
and a lot of people can relate to you
and you can play on the field as well,
that takes you to a whole different level.
So you got that it factor that you can't even teach.
So you're ahead of the curve anyway.
So my next thing I want to ask you is how do you approach,
how did you approach learning the playbook as a rookie?
Because I'm thinking about my rookie year
when I got to Cincinnati.
Boy, I struggle, boy.
I struggle and I really couldn't touch the field the way I wanted to.
How did that go for you, your rookie year?
I mean, it wasn't like it wasn't, I wouldn't say it was hard for real.
The playbook, the formation, none of that really was hard.
It made even more sense from the college
playbook, you know, I played in a pro style system system at Michigan State. It was a number system. So just the
combination of both and put myself to the task. If I got to Florida State to
learn it that fast, it helped because I got two different systems to combine and learn
these one system. So it was pretty small. Okay, okay. Yeah, it wasn't that simple
for me, Kion. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.
Because the number system, like most people learn the number system, 2-4-6-8 is to your
right.
1-3-5 is to the left.
Well, Tom Langer, it was a defensive coordinator.
So when he got to be a head coach and he started calling plays, it was reversed.
So 1-3-5 is to your right. 2 So one, three, five is to your right.
Two, four, six, eight is to your left.
So I hear something with an odd, with an even number.
I'm going to ask you the right.
I got this one.
Hey, Sean, where you going?
Two, four, six, eight is to the right.
Oh, thank you.
So I stayed, yeah, it was tough.
But I'm glad you were able to pick up
because as Ocho said earlier, you was able to pick up because,
as Ocho said earlier, the quicker you can pick it up,
the quicker you can let your ability take over
and you're not thinking.
And you're like, damn, am I running the right route?
And you're going, cause you want to, like you said,
everything is sped up.
And you hesitate, you beat in this league
because everybody's good.
Yeah. Yeah
Yeah
Let me ask you this. How did you get used to playing into the cold?
Because they look you got cold in Michigan, but Buffalo is different animal
Both feet of snow overnight, I mean
Once it's below like 32 below freezing technically,
cold and cold, where you just gotta,
you know, got your own routine.
It's a mental thing there.
Yeah, like, you should be more excited for the game
than you is to think about the cold.
Cause it'd be cold all week anyways.
Yeah, yeah.
So like, the game come, you know,
you might not always practice in the cold,
but it's like, you can make it a few hours in the cold like this is just your profession like
But you go you go through a little routine my best advice
I'll take a shower before even hot games, but you can cold games take you a shower if you're a Vaseline guy
Vaseline that body down close them pores if you're a tiger bomb guy and whatever you use
Use that once you hop out that side of them pores is open
You that's as me get right get your feet. Get your hands and your feet. That's the main two things. Yeah. Yeah
Get cold. It's a wrap. Yeah
I gotta keep them toes gotta keep the toes
And your fingertips
Let them two get cold. Don't fingers get cold out there catching like this
tips. Don't let them two get cold.
Don't let them fingers get cold.
You gotta catch them like this.
You don't be trying to fit it to your body.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the shoulder pads are already bricked.
Like this cold is frozen.
Yeah.
You gotta hold that baby.
You gotta hold that baby.
You gotta hold that baby, Keeyon.
You're thinking that, but the cold really fun though, cause nobody on the digital side
really be trying to hit, cause it hurt her.
It hurt her.
So they just trying to push me out of bounds and stuff.
So you catch it, you just be off to the races.
Yeah.
Hey, let's talk about the And they just try to really be trying to hit, because they hurt her. They hurt her. But they just trying to push me out of bounds and stuff.
So you can't just be off to the races.
Yeah.
Hey, listen, I know you're not a scout.
I know you're not a GM.
I know you're not in the front office.
You were a rookie last year.
But based on how well you guys played offensively,
obviously having Josh Allen, and you know your defense,
if you were a GM, if you were in the Bills front office,
in the war room draft day,
what do you think your team needs to improve
if any area needs improving?
I think it's always room for improvement though.
Yeah, always.
We did deal with quite a bit of injuries,
but on a defensive side of the ball,
I'll go D line. Okay and corner
Okay, and probably look for another guy at safety and they could play that higher bit safety position, right?
So up and up and up and down in the box and yeah, okay. Okay. I'll go I'll go D line
Anywhere on that D line I go one or two D lineman
Give me a corner
That's not get two corners. You always need that back there.
So I'll give me two corners.
And I'll go give me another receiver.
They can play different positions like that.
What you think? I saw reports.
It might be possible.
I'm not sure if it's true or not.
But maybe Stephon Diggs reuniting
coming back to Buffalo?
I don't know.
My ear don't be in that door. I don't know about that.
I'll be happy to have him. There's another guy in the room to learn from. Yeah. Listen,
for me from the outside looking in, adding another weapon like Stephon that knows offense,
that knows Josh Allen, most of the pressure wouldn't be on him just being there to contribute
in a way. Obviously being a veteran presence, you know, for some of
the young guys, I think it would be a good look, you know, for you guys.
So, um, and hell, I mean, I, I like it.
I like it.
I don't know that I don't be hearing that about that.
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Let me ask you this. You have Josh Allen. What's it been like? Because you go to a team and you got one of the better
quarterbacks in the National Football League.
It ain't no, oh man, I don't know,
I show hope we can win today.
You got this guy, there's an expectation to win.
There's not a hope.
You don't hope to win.
Sometimes you have quarterbacks.
Man, if the defense can hold them to 17,
if we can get a couple of big plays,
create turnovers in special teams, we can win.
You go out there every week with 17
as your quarterback expecting to win.
What is it meant like playing
and having 17 calling plays in the huddle?
I mean, it's real fun, you know?
We have a lot of fun, even throughout the game,
we be joking around, you know,
it's a place where we all can be loose and still be professional and get our job done.
But with him back there, bro, it's like, it's a blessing.
I say it's a blessing to be able to be blessed
with a quarterback of that talent.
As a rookie, as a younger guy,
you know, most guys come in and be great,
but struggle because the quarterback is not up to par.
But my quarterback demands greatness.
And he demands you to be where you need to be,
and that ball will come on time. Even if you ain't expecting it, it's still there.
It's always gonna be a catchable ball.
It's not easy playing with a guy like that because you have to stay active.
You might think he's gonna be on one side and like, damn, how you get way over there and the ball coming out?
It's like, it's like he ain't even got time to say, damn, what?
Take off, take off. Take off.
Hey, when you hear the crowd go wild, you start looking, find it.
You got to take off.
Better than being on the other side of the field, you on that rock.
That got to be an awesome feeling, being able to play with somebody that's elite, one of
the best in the game.
Listen, probably top three, top four in the NFL that can extend plays and play off scripts.
So regardless of when the play breaks down, you still know you have an
opportunity to get a ball. That has to be a great thing.
I got one. I got one question that really had nothing to do with football.
I think if I'm not mistaken, Buffalo is known for its wings. Yes.
Yeah, they got some problems.
So if there if there if there was a wing spot, I know you only been there.
Yeah, if there was a wing spot and you had to choose where to go to get wings, where would you go?
Bar Bill, oh they got this place called,
it's love something, I don't know the name of it,
I just know where it's at, it's downtown in Buffalo.
But either there or Bar Bill.
I need them to add that honey lemon pepper and then hot lemon pepper
I need both of those flavors on all the menus. Okay, that's all that's all the flavor they missing for me
High lemon hot lemon pepper and honey lemon pepper. I need both of those so they they aren't they got no wing stuff out there in Buffalo, huh?
No
Okay Buffalo, huh? No, we ain't got that. Okay. I don't think so. I didn't see him once.
Well you are, I mean you ride across the, you ride across the bridge from Toronto,
you, you, you, you, you travel across the bridge? Yeah. That ain't no, that ain't
right across the bridge. That's an hour and a half, man. Man, Toronto ain't no hour and a half.
Man, how you gonna tell me? It's an hour and a half? Because when I came to Buffalo, I went across the bridge.
And that was ridiculous.
And you heard him. What's he say?
Oh, what'd you say?
What'd you say?
Kia?
That traffic ridiculous.
Oh, for my, as soon as you, as soon as you cross the border and you get down to the
to Toronto traffic ridiculous.
Oh, that ain't no change.
Cause when we went across there, it wasn't no hour.
Cause you know, we, Hey, cause you know, we land, Hey, drop the bag.
Well, y'all stand that dude. What y' the way I was standing I was in the city of Buffalo
No
We understand that I don't think so because
Man had to be wrong. We was only 20. We was like a 20-minute cab ride
from what from from the Toronto
No, you might be telling from the border. Once you cross the border that ain't Toronto you got a drive to Toronto
Hey, I don't know what they tell the reason Toronto so I took they were for
All along hold on Keon. Oh, I'm trying to forgot if you flew in for a game y'all playing the bills what you were doing
In Toronto, what's in Toronto?
my bad, hey
Gayle my bad, my bad. Hey, that was long time ago, what you got going on over there? Hey, my bad, my bad.
Hey, that was a long time ago.
I don't remember.
I know, what's the name of the spot you went to?
I don't remember.
Yeah, you remember.
You remember?
I'm like me to go there.
You got it, can't hold that.
That was before you was born, Key.
I can't even remember that, Key.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
Y'all ain't gonna hold this.
You just remember going there.
You don't remember the spot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Keith. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna hold you. You just remember going, or you don't remember the spot. You ain't even learned, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everything was a blur.
Mm, mm, mm.
But let me ask you this.
Your seminal's.
So are you more Florida State,
or are you more Michigan State?
Because your seminal's fell on hard time this year, Keith.
Man, I can't even answer that question.
I mean, I spent more years in Michigan State than I did in Florida State.
But Florida State was a real iconic 7-8 months that I was there.
So I'm both.
But Michigan State, you know, got a whole new culture to have come from the West Coast.
So it's a different program than when I was there.
But you know, some of my same guys still there in the weight room and stuff like that.
So I'm post-signed, I'll be watching
somewhat, but you know, most of the guys
that I was like, my younger guys when I was there
at different schools, so I watched different teams play.
Right. Okay. You still
thinking, you still like
you supporting them?
Yeah, I support players more so
cause teams change. You know, first
coach all that change. I mean, that's like my favorite player was Kobe.
If Kobe would have ever left, we'd get deleted. You know, so that's just me.
I root for my young guys that was under me and that I played with and you know,
I got a guy Alabama that I watch Bama games. Now, I ain't never really watched no Bama games.
But he there and you got different guys in different areas. I watch day games to support them.
Right.
Hey, you sometimes you wear two mouthpieces, right?
Yeah, I know I'm not tripping. What's that about? What does that come from? Is that from Little League?
That's something you've always done. I remember seeing you do it at Florida State.
If I'm not mistaken, I think you you did it in the league too, right?
I did it a few games, but man by the time I'll be forgetting. I don't even wear a mouthpiece in the game.
You feel me?
And if I didn't put them on there before the game then they probably
wouldn't ever be a proud person. After Florida State I used to wear the Apple Watch with the
whatever Apple Watch band they used to send me the bad colors. Right. But the team and I just
to wear like I just to be trolling wearing these team colors it was like it was fine at first when
I did it. Now everybody's just throwing random colors. It don't hit the same
Okay, okay. Okay, what is our team colors? It looks fine
Okay, I got you. I got you. Are you are you a talker? Do you talk trash during the game? Do you like a bro?
Hey, oh you about find yourself on the waiver while tomorrow trying to do
No, I'll be chilling bro. But if they say something to me then it's it's zero to a minute quick
I can't have to do my job. I'm the rule but the moment you say something to be something nice
I don't want to hear it. Just don't talk to me
Then I'm all 10 like I'm not over with did you have any issues with any DB's this year that really talk trash to you
Or was everybody kind of straight? No only only uh Willard, Willard only personally said so and we seen how that
would end it but that mean shit that was the only person that really told me something
all year. Okay okay okay okay. Keyar man thanks for joining us tonight bro we
really appreciate it continued success. Hey build on that rookie season you got
your sophomore season your quarterbacks back in the fold.
It's time to take that next step, bro. It's time to be, hey, when we talk about these top receivers,
it's time to make sure Uncle Nocho have your name in that discussion. Yes, sir.
I will, B. Trust me. All right. All right. Congratulations on your rookie season.
Congratulations on your rookie season. We'll see you down the road, man. Take care.
Appreciate it. Hey, if you need a DB for some one-on-ones let me know I'll lock you up oh my god
bring your case at Brenton dollars wait oh whoa whoa whoa whoa bring my
grandma please say what Brenton racks we're gonna run it for free oh I tell you
what you do you might well why that tend to me because if you ain't never seen my
if you ain't seen my DB skills, you ain't catching nothing.
It makes you Josh Allen there.
Cause I don't want no excuse to my,
I ain't having my quarterback.
My sister can throw a long beat at open.
It don't matter who back there.
Get open on who?
You.
If you, man, boy, you done bumped your head.
Boy, I'm a child of God.
You coming out here soon, right?
Huh?
What size you are?
I wear a 11.
All right, I got some police for you. I bring you your own key
All right, you you training in husa i'll be everywhere. Whatever you need me to be. No, I come down
I come down. Yeah, I don't want to get no excuse. I'm not coming down there. You gotta come see me in texas, bro
I come I come to texas. Who's the quarterback? I don't want no excuse for it. It don't matter
All right, blind man can throw it. I'm that open. Okay. Okay.'t matter. All right, I'm blind man. Get through it. I'm dead open. Okay
Okay. All right. Say less. I'm gonna see you in a minute. All right. Yo, all right, bro
Congratulations again. See you down the road bro. Appreciate it
Keon coven buffalo bills wide receiver rookie wide receiver going into his sophomore season
We're expecting great things from him coming the upcoming season
Oh, Joe miles garrett explained his change of heart.
He had a John Q moment, a change of heart,
and explained why he's staying in Cleveland.
I think I had some frustration,
and I feel like that helped us grow
and have a conversation where difficult,
but needed to be had.
That created a little more discourse,
helped build some relationships and reaffirmed them.
Now I feel like we're in a better place.
Now we can have, we can move on and grow from there.
Despite Garrett's explanation, the perception surrounding his decision to stay remains.
He was prioritizing money over winning.
And NFL network, Kyle Brandt said Garrett's should have been more
straightforward about role money played instead with the Browns.
It was about money and the money said we want to win and we want to do it now
He lost. I got a problem with that. I have no problem Ocho with him getting that kind of money
Yeah, but he know how you gonna win now. You ain't got no quarterback
Hold on. You're in the same position
The only difference that Miles Garrett is in now is that he got a hundred and twenty three million dollars guarantee a hundred million over the first three years. That is the only thing
That has changed
Nothing has changed towards him winning. Yeah, who they don't win with don't you? I have a question
Yes, you know, you understand, you know why you wanted to leave you understand why you wanted to leave
You understood also when you asked to talk to management, they told you we're not talking.
We don't want to talk to you and we're not training you.
No, the owner didn't want to have the conversation.
He said talk to Andrew Barry, who's the general manager who's running it.
He wasn't finna have no conversation either, because know what we finna do we know how to get you
The one to be here. We're gonna pay you
Yes, we're gonna pay you
He had no more guaranteed money all the guaranteed money that he had signed that big contract that made him the highest paid defender at one
Point time was gone now
Instead of pretending like I'm looking greedy and asking for a contract, you know
what?
I want to win.
And for true, yeah, you're right.
I ain't got no, oh, look, and I don't want anybody to take this the wrong way.
I really don't have a problem with that.
Right.
But everybody that's looking at this objectively and realistically knows that Miles Garrett
is in no better situation today.
The only better situation is financially.
Yeah. He's in no better situation is financially yeah he's in no
better situation they're not even closer to winning. Also you got to think about it
him wanting to trade and saying I don't want to be here they wouldn't let them go
anywhere they wouldn't let him go so I mean you you stuck between a rock and a
hard place because they were saying we not trained you. Oh Joe he knew it listen
even when they want to trade when players want to get traded
Sometimes they'll come to him and offer money
Hey
And guess what?
Carson Palmer Carson Palmer really wanted to be out of there since they couldn't offer him enough money could they oh Joe now he refused to
Come he maybe he said it home. That's what you want to get up out of there, right?
Yeah, miles it was always about money. Miles wanted more guaranteed money.
Miles wanted to be the highest paid defender.
I got no problem whatsoever.
But I want people to objectively say,
you tell me that Miles Garrett is in a better situation
and is in a situation that's more conducive to winning today
than he was a month ago.
Right. No. I mean, we all understand that. was a month ago.
No, I mean we all understand that.
That's all.
But also management doesn't want to lose that centerpiece of that defense.
Management doesn't want to lose the identity to that defense.
That defense, it was good.
It was good.
I'm not sure what the numbers were last night, but if you look at them across the board, they are good. Denzel Ward, Miles Garrett, along with the rest of the supporting plants.
They can be as good as they want to. If your offense ain't no good, you ain't going nowhere.
What are they going to do with the quarterback position? We will find out. Listen, we'll find out in April. We're going to find out. We're going to find out in April when you bring somebody young, you get a veteran presence in there to probably start this
year, to at least give you a chance. Maybe Kirk Cousins. I'm not sure what's gonna
happen, you know? So I'm, listen, I'm just excited for every goddamn body. People
getting their money. I just... I ain't got no problem with that money. Yeah, I don't. I
don't. But my thing is, now unless you get one of these rookies and he's like Jayden Daniels
You really not going now look it was reported that Russell Wilson was scheduled a visit. I saw it last week
So I don't know that Thursday Thursday, right?
First always last week. I think I think so
Chat y'all could correct. Oh, you and I if we're wrong
But I think I read it last week that he was supposed to have a visit to Cleveland and the Giants,
and I don't know which day each visit was scheduled,
but that's what I read.
Now, situation, it's also being reported,
I don't know if there's any truth to this,
that in the process of getting his money,
he wanted him to work something out with Nick Chubb.
Right. I don't know.
You know, you read, I read. I don't know what's true.
All I'm just saying what I read.
I don't, and I hate that I brought that up
because that was in the paper
and we don't really know if that's true.
And if it is, that was a very noble
and honorable thing to do.
Yes.
One of the guys that's been there
as long as you had, I think he came,
I think he came a year, I mean,
no, he came a year after because I think he came, I think he came a year before,
no, he came a year after,
because I think he came with Baker.
I think Chubb with the second round pick
with Baker Mayfield.
I'm almost sure of that.
But he's been one of the leaders in the locker room.
He's been one of the leaders in the locker room.
And Miles felt that he would,
he wanted it, if they're gonna win, I want Chubb to be a he wanted it.
If they're gonna win, I want Chubb to be a part of it. Yeah, I like it.
I like it.
Chubb coming off of his second year at the ACLT,
I'm sure he's gonna have a better season this year.
If we can get Chubb back to the Chubb we're used to seeing
regardless of who's at the quarterback position,
I think that makes things a little easier for them
in that area, simply because it's, to me,
it's almost a comparison.
I'm not saying he's Derrick Henry,
but he ain't too goddamn far off
if you watch Nick Chubb play over the years.
He ain't that far off on him.
You know what, Ocho, I just don't know.
I mean, that was a serious injury that he's coming back from.
Yeah, man.
And he had an injury.
The second time, the second time.
Yeah, in college.
Yeah.
So, the determination, I just hope he can get some resemblance
of being the back that he once was.
Yes, yes.
Most times, we don't see powerbacks.
We don't see powerbacks.
It's been very few powerbacks have the longevity
of Adrian Peterson, Derek Henry.
We're talking about not contact, collision backs.
Run to collision.
They'll run you over.
I mean, they're not really trying to run nobody.
They're trying to punish you and make you turn it down
because that tackle that you make in the first
and second quarter, you're gonna be a little bit more
apprehensive in the third and the fourth quarter.
And if you notice, as the game progresses,
those guys get stronger.
Yeah, yeah.
Bro, you ain't gotta run on me but one time with a bus.
I would dodge that bus the next time I see that mofo coming.
Every time, every time.
I've never seen a running back. There have been I've never seen I've never seen a
Running back there have been many of them. I've never seen a running back run as
violently as
violently as all day agent Peterson
I ain't never seen agent Peterson
Marion Barber didn't have the same type of success or acceleration or
I'm trying to have the longevity,
the longevity, but something about Adrian Peterson, he played, what did they do
wrong to you for you to run the ball like that angry?
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-♪ B-Smo's ran like that. But don't forget, the B-Smo's had a long career. But if you go back and look at the guy that comes to the top of my head,
I don't know how many people in the chat all have to remember, was Earl Campbell.
Earl was like that.
But Earl only lasted like seven, eight years.
And I don't know if y'all have seen Earl.
Earl has been in the wheelchair for the last 20, 25 years.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Earl has done great off the field.
He got a meatpacking, hot links and stuff like that.
Salsa, steak, stuff like that.
So he's done really well.
But Earl ran to contact.
He was a collision back, not a contact.
Because contact and collision are two different things.
And normally those guys that run to have collisions,
they don't have longevity.
Adrian Peterson played what 12-13 years.
You see D. Henry play the number of years he's playing. I mean he
went for 2,000 he was on a pace to have another 2,000 yard he got hurt at
rushing for about 1,100 with eight games to go. So he was on pace to get another.
Had a knee injury. Bows his back from get 15 under comes to the ravers go to get 1900. Mm-hmm. That's
Crazy, I've never seen anything like Derek Henry
I can also say I've never seen anything like Derek Henry a guy runs like that that goes over 2000 a goat that has
goes over 2000 and then
Comes within 80 yards from having 2000 again?
Right.
That's crazy.
It absolutely is.
But hopefully Chubb can get some of what he lost, Ocho,
from that injury because you know every time Ocho,
the injuries, they take a little bit out of you every time.
It does.
Take a little bit out of you every time.
Yeah, yeah, it does. But listen, even as a bangle fan, I would love, I would love the Browns at full strength and whatever decisions they do make, whether it be in offseason acquisitions, whether it be through the draft, I would love them at full strength when they do play my bangles. So there are no excuses about, oh, we didn't have a quarterback or our running back was hurt. I want to make sure miles Garrett is there when we put up 50 points. I want him at full strength
I'm sure we have people in the chat that are Browns fans. I love you. I love you dearly. I
Love you dearly
But come this season
We know who's running the AFC North. I know we have Bravens fans who?
in the AFC North. I know we have Ravens fans.
Who?
Ravens.
I know we have Ravens fans in the chat.
And you know how I feel about you.
And I tell you this, I've been telling you this since 2001.
I love every last one of you.
Huh?
Every last one of you.
Oh Joe, y'all ain't one but a handful of games, damn!
Let me finish my speech.
We know this year, 2025, the AFC North
is coming through the 513.
Now, if you need me to come sit with y'all at MNT Bank,
what is it called, MNT Bank?
Yeah.
Yeah, I come to-
What's the area code of Raven?
443?
Chat, anybody from BMO in the chat? What is it 443?
I know we got Ravens fans in the chat.
Definitely. Definitely. I love every last one of you.
But y'all don't run. First of all, we already know Cincinnati don't run nothing but they rock, mile.
Y'all don't run nothing. There ain't nothing coming through no Cincinnati. Stop that.
One thing that you can learn about my organization,
that you can see that we proved we that you can see, that we proved,
we've done something historical that we've never done before
that was out of character.
Fourteen, that right, 14, 14.
What's that?
Baltimore.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Oh, it is 443, I remember, yeah.
I used to have a, I ain't never had no Raven style. I think I had a landline. I did have a landline
20 years, man, all the first of all, you make you say I had a landline yesterday
Had over 20 years ago when I was in Baltimore. But the way you the way you said it like you yesterday
So you don't have a you don't have a landline in your house right now? No
Why not? Who gonna call me on the landline in your house right now? No. Why not?
Who gonna call me on the landline?
People call you on your cell phone.
Oh, I was just asking.
I was just asking, when the last time you seen the payphone?
MJ, what I get?
Y'all remember this right here?
Hey, hey. I can't see it. Y'all remember this right here?
I can't see it.
That's a no-kill.
That's a no-kill.
That's a no-kill.
That's a no-kill.
That's B&O.
A who?
Hello?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Baby.
Yeah, yeah.
Get your mouth.
Carpet.
Tall.
Big booty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, yeah.
I saw her.
I saw her.
She got like two kids now, man, yeah.
She still look good.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Uh-uh.
Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on.
This my, let me, let me call you back. This. Hold on. Let me call you back.
This is my brother call. Let me call you back.
Hey, Joe, let me get that right there.
Hey, hey, hey, that just that conversation be going to.
Yeah. Oh, Joe, look what I did.
Look at right here. Look at that right here.
Who that again?
That's us. Who that again, little joke? That's us?
Who that again, little joke?
That's us?
Yeah, that's y'all. And guess what?
Then the air's on our win.
What number's that?
That bangle jersey?
I don't know. We call it reruns.
You remember our reruns of chasing that truck on What's Happening?
Right.
That's it? That's the
That's him
That's my rookie ain't it? Uh, I
Don't think you was there yet. Oh Joe. Okay
Then at October 7 2001 that is you that's your yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was there
I'm trying I wonder what Darnie and P.dub did that game nothing nothing not a damn thing. I
Don't know nothing I don't know about that I don't know nothing nothing who won the game I
Lost one game in 14 years to the Bengals
Did I score I?
Don't think so. Y'all be y'all be when, when we came, when we came to y'all, y'all beat us, I think y'all beat us by like three points. Yeah, that would be, that would be, that would be.
No, that wasn't you, that wasn't you.
No, but uh, no, I look, I don't want people to think I got a, I don't got no problem with Miles Garrett.
I just think the thing was that was his play all along. Yeah, he played it perfectly. Yeah, he played it
He played it perfectly
Right he did
And look at it right here, oh Joe
What's that?
I know that's not a camcorder.
Hey, you better know it.
Hey, you know, as soon as I seen the bag, I knew what it was, huh?
Hey, I know you're going to use that, you want to free me?
Hey, hey, be like Spike Lee, do the right thing. So you was there?
You. You was there?
Well, I want to I want to see the footage.
No, you can't do this, Ocho.
No, all things't sue this, Ocho. No?
All things will stop.
Everything.
Hey, I could imagine, bro.
This going right back to the vault.
I could imagine.
You still got a VCR?
No.
I bet you ain't got no CD player.
No, but I got a bunch of cell phones upstairs.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
A bunch of them.
I'm talking about, I got to keep all my cell phones.
I bet you ain't got no side,
I bet you ain't got no sidekick.
No, I wasn't in the sidekick, so Joe,
I ain't gonna lie to you.
You had a beeper, a pager?
Nope.
I bet you ain't got the Motorola block phone.
I do got, it's in Glenville.
I got the big one and the little.
Yeah, the big one.
Okay, okay.
I got the Star Tech, I got a bunch of phones upstairs.
Okay, okay, okay.
Hold on just a second.
Keep on talking, let me go upstairs real quick.
Hold on.
All right, chat, listen, chat, while he goes upstairs
and then rummages through all the stuff from the 80s
and I wanna talk about my bangles.
I wanna talk about my bangles and I wanna tell y'all
what's gonna happen this year. Now, I've always been right when it comes to predicting stuff and I want to talk about my bangles. I want to talk about my bangles and I want to tell y'all
what's going to happen this year.
Now I've always been right when it comes to predicting stuff
and I'm rarely wrong.
I am rarely wrong.
Now I think about last year,
I was wrong twice in a 17, 18 game season,
including the playoffs.
I guessed the playoffs all the way right.
I said the Eagles are probably going to win the Super Bowl.
Again, they were going to play the Chiefs.
Boom, I was right. So this year year the AFC North is going to go
through Cincinnati it's gonna go through Cincinnati so what's gonna happen the
way it's gonna play out is we're probably going to score 40 to 50 points
a game 40 to 50 points a game in our defense is gonna be adequate and just
good enough to stop teams,
maybe allowing maybe 17 to 20 points a game.
That's how it's going to go.
I'm not telling you what I heard.
I'm telling you what I know because it's the way the game goes and just the way
the way things are flowing in general for us as an organization to do something
that's never been done before that's out of character for us as a team and organization,
it's gonna reward ourself.
The football gods are gonna reward us
simply because we did something that we've never done before
and we made history, okay?
I think, I think, now I don't have the numbers
in front of me, it's possible that we can sign
Trey Hendrickson.
I think it's possible.
And so we're gonna do that.
Now, that's one staple, you know?
That's one staple that we can have
that's part of the ecosystem defensively.
If we can get that back, you know,
I'm not sure, secondary, we got some good dudes
out there on the corner, safety,
I'm not sure what's going on with Vaughn
and some of the safeties or whatnot.
But outside of that, if you're a gambling man, if there are any gambling women in the
chat, I'm telling you now, put your money, put your money on the bangles, alright?
We're going to be in San Francisco and I'm going to meet you all there sometime in February
and that's it.
Outside of that, I hope you all had a good Monday.
I had a good Monday.
I had a great Monday.
You see my jacket.
This is a leopard or cheetah, I'm not sure.
They all look the same.
Hello, I love y'all.
I don't know what else to say right now.
Oh, you back.
Oh, Joe, this the only one I can find.
You remember this one?
That's a razor.
That's a razor. A Star Tech. Star Tech, right? See, I can find. You remember this one? That's a Razor. That's a Razor. A StarTag. StarTag, right?
See, I knew it was either Razor or StarTag, one or the other.
They antenna come up, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember them.
I remember them. I remember that. I remember that. We a beeper at.
I ain't have no beeper. Oh yeah. I still got, but I gotta get Shelley.
I'm weird that I have them, Mocho, cause I know Shelley people. Oh, yeah, I got guys I still got but I gotta get I'm weird that I have a mojo cuz I know Shelley put them somewhere but I got about I think oh
Thing went up
Shelley put them somewhere but I got like
17 I got the original iPod.
You remember the iPod that hold 10,000 songs?
Oh, the big, the big thick one.
Yes, I got that.
Listen, I got all my HBCU band music on that old iPod.
I'll tell you, it was thick too, boy.
Yeah, I got it.
Hey, I keep everything.
Old MacBook. Hey, what you be doing with all that, man?
I don't let nothing go.
Hey, you see the big computer behind me, old Joe?
I got three desktops, too.
Hey, listen, you can have a yard sale and make a grip, boy.
Oh, no.
You didn't go sell it?
No. Mm-mm. So you just. I don't want nobody
get no information off here. Oh no. Uh uh. Uh uh. Oh no. I ain't get rid of nothing. What you got on there? You acting like 007?
I don't know what's on there. Okay, okay.
But I tell you what, ain't nobody else gonna find out what's on there either.
I got you, I got you.
You don't wanna slip up, huh?
No, I want everything I told you, Ocho.
Yeah.
I would need a crane in my casket to carry my casket.
Six can't do it.
Too many skeletons.
Too many secrets, Ocho, too many secrets. I too many secrets I got you I got you
I got you oh DJ who's bazada Oh Joe you had three catches for 28 yards
Wait, I only had three for 28? Yep.
Damn, I'm sorry as hell.
I had more than you, I had three for 32.
Oh, I thought I caught a touchdown in that game.
Nah, you ain't catching none.
Hey, you got tackled.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got tackled on that play.
That might have been, that was my, that was my, that was my first year in Baltimore.
I caught a touchdown.
Look at 2000 Ash, I thought I caught a touchdown on them.
Travis Taylor had four for 66, I had three for 32.
Kondre had three for 31.
Brandon Stokely had one for 23.
Todd Heap had one for 18.
Todd Heap?
Mo Williams had two for five.
Yeah. I was 18. Mo Williams had two for five, yeah.
Ojo averaged 10 yards to catch. Yeah.
9.3.
That's me.
Y'all have 153 yards.
What, offense?
Yeah, passing.
Oh, that's bad.
Yep.
TJ Ledger was 63.
You was next with 28.
That's me, that's me. That's me
I was I was gonna don this guy had one for 20 Danny Farmer had two for 16
Corey had two for 12 Peter work had one for seven Ron Duggan's had one for four and Lorenzo Neil had one for three
Hey, so
So as a matter of fact, I just saw him at the idea deal super bowl Joe Joe. Yeah, yeah, that's my guy man
Lorenzo a funny boy. Oh, yeah. Hey, yeah in 2000 I scored half-time for 40 in the tub
And won me
I would only we won the game though. Yeah, they wouldn't know your ex with
hold on
Pull up a ash
Totals I guarantee when that game
Pull up the total. I don't think y'all y'all might not have scored. Don't do that
I'd be I'd definitely not boy
They're not go back and step look at that film and watch Rob Burnett
If y'all see the highlights go back and look at that here in 2000 Rob Burnett
What on Achilles Smith?
He got it. He might not play no more that year
We could he must have caught him from the blind side on boy a cotton. Hey, he was looking just like this
No, he was like this and Rob Burnett. He put his helmet right up on his chin. Ah
What was the score after that game?
A whole lot to a few, I know.
Nah.
That was a... huh?
37-0.
Wait, what?
0-0?
The first two games of the season, hold your...
The Steelers blanked them.
Cincinnati blanked them. Cincinnati blanked them.
No, we beat, no, the second game of the season, we ended up beating Jacksonville.
We came back and beat Jacksonville.
That was the game Jimmy Smith had 15 for 291.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Woo!
He went crazy on it.
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