Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Team USA beats Brazil, Gabby Thomas wins 200m

Episode Date: August 7, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to all the latest from the 2024 Paris Olympics, including LeBron James leading Team USA basketball to a 122-87 win over Brazil, Gabby Thomas winning the 200-meter final, and much more!03:40 - Show starts05:05 - USA basketball beats Brazil16:30 - Nike new KD commercial24:07 - Devin Booker doesnt agree with Noah Lyles31:50 - Gabby Thomas wins Gold in the 200m01:06:34 - Cole Hocker wins 150001:11:00 - Valarie Allman wins 2nd consecutive gold01:15:10 - USA Soccer Team going to Gold Medal round(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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clothing company 84, that's 84 spelled out. Our Olympic merch just dropped. the link is pinned at the top of the chat use code olympics uh ocho we're gonna get right into it the last couple of days the u.s has been on a gold rush uh yes we're piling up the medals getting we're winning goals in places that we really didn't expect to win goals because the reigning world champ we're going to talk about uh cole hawker uh winning the 1500 meter yeah and hey fantastic finish too fantastic finish he timed it he timed it perfect but let's kick it off the usa trounce brazil 122 to 87 um they will

play serbia for the third time on Thursday in one gold medal. The defending World Cup champion, Germany, played the 2022 Olympic silver medal finalist, France, in the other semifinal. Devin Booker was the USA's leading scorer. He had 18 points on five made threes. The U.S. shot the ball extremely well ocho they were 58

percent from the floor 48 percent from the three 90 percent from the free throw line lebron left the game caught an elbow to the eye ended up getting stitched left in the third quarter he had 12 points joel and b had his most out impressive outing in the Olympics. He had 14. We mentioned Devin Booker had 18. Kevin Durant had 11. Anthony Davis had 13. Ant-Man had 17. 122 to 87. They dominated.

They started out. This is the way I expected them to play. This is how I expected them to look. And they've been winning in dominating fashion. You never know who's going to be the hot man on a given night Ocho, given what we have to offer and for them guys to sacrifice because every guy is the guy

on their team. And for them to sacrifice shots, to sacrifice minutes, to sacrifice whatever they're having to sacrifice for the commonality of the one thing, win the gold medal and represent the USA in the highest form. kudos to this team go uh silver medal match with serbia nicola yokich uh is in front of them with a chance to go to the

gold medal round oh when you watch this game what'd you like about what you saw i mean they thought they're having fun i i understand the pressures i understand it's the olympics but they were out there having fun obviously bra Brazil's team is not of size. They don't really have any bigs down there. Joel Embiid, even though when you look at it from a matchup standpoint, they didn't really need him based on his size and being 7'1", but he played anyway. And when he did play, he played a little different

than what we're used to for our bigs. You want your bigs inside as opposed to outside. But he played the outside game, and mid-range was on. He he was shooting good from the field he was shooting the three and uh everybody else was having fun devin booker leading the charge anthony evers had a great game and like you did say everybody contributed in a great way and listen steve kerr i mean his job is very difficult because do you think everyone is still happy do you think everyone is still happy yeah do you think everyone is still happy when you look at it i know the common goal is the win goal but i know they want to be able to to put on their skill and represent their country and be be um a contributor a

contributor for the most part as one of the reasons why they won gold so i think players want to get their minutes and be able to score and i think there are there are still still some rumblings of uh of people not happy with with the way things are going well i think everybody should be happy with the minutes they got if you look at it the role player the the second unit played more minutes than the starter i mean no starter played more than 17 minutes uh and you look at Jason Tatum, he had 20 minutes. Kevin Durant had 21 minutes. Bam had 19 minutes. Ant-Man had 18 minutes. Derek White had the same number of minutes as the starters.

Only person that didn't play double-digit minutes was Tyrese Halliburton. He played eight minutes. He was one from the field. But I think the thing now is that you know now every team that you face now can beat you so it doesn't matter it's not a situation where a coach i need to get my 10 15 20 minutes no steve curry's gonna run the guys that he obviously the starters are gonna start we'll see how lebron i see if it holds up i don't see i don't think he's gonna miss any time joel and bead had a little minor ankle injury that he ended up leaving the game

in the third quarter. Was it the third quarter that he left, Ash, or the fourth? But he ended up leaving the game with an ankle injury. But you know the reigning world champs is Germany. We know what the French possess. They have Wemby. They have Gobert. They have Fournette.

So they have and the Germans, they have Dennis Schroeder. They have the Wagner brothers. So, and Serbia, we already know who's on that team. The three-time league MVP and bogey. The

shooters are from the Atlanta Hawks. So these last three teams, the potential that the Americans can face if we play Serbia in the semifinals and then potentially Germany or France could beat them. And they know that. And so I expect them to be on their best behavior. Whoa, you got too much dip on your chip now. What's that?

They have some good players. They have some good players. They have some good players, but the chance of them actually beating the U.S. is slim to none. That's not going to happen. You got a better chance of finding Jimmy Hoffa and any of the teams that are left in contention than beating the U.S.A. team, especially knowing that because of who they're playing,

I think the players are going to raise their level of play even more. The thing is, Ocho, is that the one thing, since you say you never underestimate your opponent and you never overestimate yourself. Okay. And you'll be fine.

All right. Because there's a reason why the pros have come playing now. Remember? Pros didn't use to play. Yeah. But you're talking about a knockout round now ocho one game yes sir one game think about football think about how many teams

have gotten up man ain't no way they can lose this game in one game anything can happen you are tweaked ankle you are a bad foul you are terribly rough rough game right I think but listen in order for that to happen hypothetically speaking yes they would have to have they would have to play horrendous everybody would have to be shooting horrible from the

field Steph threes wouldn't be falling LeBron really can't get it going Anthony Edwards can't have no he's off rhythm Katie not efficient from the field I just don't see it happening even though i understand what you're saying i understand the analogies never underestimate your opponent never overestimate yourselves but it ain't i don't i don't see it happen i see the players

raising their level of play understanding it is a knockout stage and not giving anyone a chance to even contend or give us that feeling that we even have a chance to lose. And I think they'll make a statement when they do play. Wait, who they play? Serbia. Coming up. Yeah, when they play Serbia. I think they're going to make a statement. To let folks know, to let us know we ain't got nothing to worry about.

Plus also, Ocho, you got to realize the host country team is still in it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Have you ever heard of home cooking yeah okay yeah I heard of home cooking but you come on now don't do me like that

no I'm just saying I understand you have to play the fence you got to play the fence no no no look I'm just saying I'm not naive enough to believe that on a given moment anything can happen. One game. Do I believe any of these teams could beat this team, could beat the U.S. team four out of seven? No.

Right. Oh, no. On a given night. Oh, so you're saying a given night? Yeah. Somebody get hot. We don't. Even then, though.

Jokic goes for 50, 20 10 oh no that ain't had maybe on 2k he may be on 2k but not over here in paris and i mean he's capable of doing it when we see him in an nba atmosphere that's different you got to understand the players that are surrounding him when he's able to put up 50-50, whatever the stat line you just put up is. But now in this atmosphere, you have great players. He doesn't have those elite

players surrounding him. He has one or two guys on his team that can contend and challenge those on the U.S. team. But no, I don't see it happening. He doesn't need to have that kind of talent. He just needs to have guys that understand how to play international ball, which he has, which they play together more than this team. Remember, they put this team together.

This team has only been together a month. A month, yeah. How long do you think the Serbian team has been playing together? Off and on. Hey, listen, probably since they were little kids. Exactly. They probably came up through the same academy. You know how that goes over that way.

That's why. I mean, look at Schroeder. Schroeder was FIBA MVP. Mm-hmm. I mean, he overestimated his hand because the Lakers had $84 million. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. He said no.

And now he's been playing kind of like mid-level exceptions or $84 million. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. He said no. And now he's been playing kind of like mid-level exceptions or $10 million deal when he could have had $20 million. But that's not... I have a question. Go ahead. I have a question.

You would know better than me. The fact that he turned down that $84 million, is there a chance he can still get it now or is that gone? That ain't happening. He's not getting

a $100 million contract. That's not happening. Even with the way he's playing now? Nope. Yeah. Nope. Hey, sometimes they tell you to bet on yourself. This is one of the first cases where betting on yourself

and then go right. But that's the thing, Ocho. We only hear the successes. Or I bet on myself and I turn to him. But what happens when you bet on yourself? You know, you bet on yourself and it doesn't go accordingly. I love what I saw today. I love the way

they moved the ball. 31 assists, Ocho. Only 11 turnovers. Did a good job on the glass. 46 rebounds, out-rebounded them by 12. 11 offensive rebounds. You can live with that.

It's going to be hard. The U.S. team play like this. You let them shoot 58% from the floor, you're not beating them. Uh-uh. You're not beating them. You're not beating them. They shot 48, what, almost 49% from the three. You're not beating Americans.

You let them shoot 122 points. You're not beating them. It ain't happening. Hell, no. You're not beating americans you let them shoot 122 points you're not beating them like that uh yeah oh joel and b didn't play the entire second half so he got nick uh before the half i think they were up 27 at the half i think they were up like what 63 36 something like that i think uh it seemed there was no doubt although we know the Serbians came back and beat the Australians. They were down by 24 and they came back and beat them in overtime. But once I was, you know, I'm looking at my like, nah,

this a wrap. Now just make sure nobody in a game like this, Ocho, you try to make sure nobody gets injured. Hey, come on. LeBron. Hey, Kirby. Come on. Hey, y'all take it over guys and uh yeah it was good i mean it was a great all-around performance very unselfish uh they was you know lebron had nine assists uh obviously some great passes to uh jason tatum but i like this it's gonna be awful tough to beat this team if they play like this.

Nike had a little something in store for Kevin Durant to celebrate him becoming the team's USA's basketball all-time Olympic leading scorer. After KD was left out, Nike's original winning-is-it-for-everyone Olympic campaign invoiced his frustration with the omission. Nike gave him his own commercial today, narrated by Deion Sanders. There's

a reaper every four years. Your time runs out. You might forgot your debt, but he's ready to collect. Coach Prime says in the commercial as highlights of Durant play in the background. Oh, we can't play that game. Damn. Why we can't?

Because I like our monetization button. Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad. My bad, my bad. Look, we know where Kevin Durant is. Would I be surprised if KD isn't on the team in 2028?

I wouldn't be surprised at all. It's only four years. And I know KD, what, that'll be year 22? I think KD's a year... Well, it'll be year 21 or 22 for KD in 2028. How old is he? KD, what, 35?

36? He's 35 or 36. 35? So in four years, 39? Hell, LeBron, 40. Yeah. I mean, if his body holds up, I mean, he should be able to do it.

He should be able to do it. I wouldn't be surprised at all, Locho, if he's there trying to go for a fifth gold, potential fifth gold medal, if they were to go out and close out business and do what they're supposed to do in this situation. But very well-deserved. We know he's the greatest score uh in olympic history now he's the all-time leading scorer in men's he's the all-time leading scorer

in olympic history right not just u.s history olympic history matter of fact or is it oscar smith u.s u.s men and. Oshkar Smith might be number one. Look at Brazil. Because he's the one that made the U.S. go get, when he put that outstanding performance on him, he dropped 48 on the head. Matter of fact, if KD, well, if the Brazilian is the greatest Olympic score. Yes.

Right? I have a question. Is KD the greatest NBA score of all time? And your estimate, what you think? I mean, until somebody averaged 54 season. Yes. Like we'll we'll average 44, average 50, 44, 38. Right.

He's only been able to score 44,000 points in the season. It all depends. It all depends. Is he the most efficient scorer? Right. I mean, people keep saying, so what is LeBron? If one guy has the most points ever been scored, and he shoots at a high percent, so what are we talking about?

Right. I mean, it's apples to oranges is it colby is it jordan is it james harden look we've never seen anything like kevin durant right a guy that's seven foot tall can put the ball on the floor can shoot the three he's great at the mid-range he doesn't fall in love with the three even though he's good from that distance he'll get to the mid-range he can put the ball on the floor get all the way to the rim and if you follow him he's gonna make 90 of his shots he's very unique in that way and so i mean analytics it all depends on what you're

looking for jordan had the mid-range jordan didn't have a three-point shot like this kobe didn't have a three-point shot like kevin durant right but when they did shoot from the three they were efficient though no they shot kobe was like 34 33 percent jordan was like 33 32 percent yeah no they were yeah that's okay matter of fact the fact that you just mentioned jordan somebody on twitter earlier right matter of fact right before we started the show they made a comment i told him that it would be at the top of the show but the fact that you brought up jordan and you would be you would be able to answer it better than me he said michael jordan could not play in today's nba he would just be an average player huh i just just yeah i i listen that's what that's what they said i'm not sure what they're basing that off of

i don't know either and and they and then his follow-up was the players in today's era are much more athletically gifted as opposed to what Jordan had to face. I don't know. From a basketball standpoint, my knowledge isn't as great as yours. I just want to hear a short answer on what you think. I disagree with him. Okay. So even though the players today are athletically better. I'm not going to say he's going to.

I mean, maybe. But it's hard to average that without the three ball. It depends. And knowing Jordan, like we know him, he's going to work on that shot because now you can't follow him. You know, it's hard to hand check below the, below the free throw line. And you can't arm bar. They let you arm bar.

They let you put your forearm in the guy's back. Right. Jordan is going to be Jordan. Right. No matter what. They're just more. I would explain it like this oh joe when i played in the nfl there were only a couple of tight ends that can do what i do yes sir there are a lot more guys that are as athletic right i'm not saying they're jordan but as athletic

right do i believe that the skill level there are more skilled players now playing than there were back then? Yes. Just like the players now, they starting out, Ochoa, with what? That 707 camp? They going to 707 at eight, nine years old. Ain't enough to go down football camp. Right. And first of all, if they were, we had no money.

You ain't going to University of Georgia. That's $50. $75. Who got that? So Jordan was going to be Jordan. I mean, here's the thing. And I'll say it like this. Great players.

Great players. Jordan is a historically great player. A transcendent great player. He adapted any era. He adapted any era. Okay. No matter the sport that's a good answer

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And that's coming from an Olympic gold medalist who believe that being an NBA champion is probably harder to do. Devin, this was a moot point. It was bad. We had put this to bed. Why are you bringing it up? You're going to back up, huh?

Yes. And I disagree with you. It is not harder. Because you know why? Because you can play. You cannot run. If anything below your waist is bothering you, you ain't winning. We've seen guys with toes, with arches, with Achilles.

We've seen guys be able to tape things up and play. We've seen guys play with broken legs. We've seen guys play with a dislocated elbow. Ah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. We saw a guy in the Rams, Jack Youngblood, play with a broken leg. Tell me what you're going to do in track and field with a broken leg.

You tell me what Olympic sport you're going to be able to do with a broken leg, Devin. None. I think track athletes, they do have injuries. Their injuries are minimal and they're injuries that they can... You're not winning. They can suppress to compete. You can't win, though.

You cannot win if anything... Think about it. At that level level we talk about the best of the best elite athletes you think they're athletes in paris that might not be injured or might not might have little nicks and they're not winning because it's so easy remember what did justin gatlin say nine seven ain't catching nine seven so if i if i run not if i run nine eight and you run nine eight and you injured how you beat me that's a good one but you know what see now my football sense is coming in so i'm thinking about when you get to the playoffs when you get to the playoffs hell everybody on the team is nicked up everybody heard at that point especially that far into the season so when i think about track

i'm thinking all you've done, the qualifying, the prelims, there's always something. You're not 100% healthy. So I'm always thinking as track athletes to get the wear and tear of your body to even get to the point of qualifying to be in goddamn Paris. I'm thinking maybe there's always something. Not enough to affect you in winning a race, but you're not 100% healthy. I could be wrong.

I could be wrong. No. I could be wrong. You ain't winning nothing in track and field because everything is leg-dominated. Unless you're a shooter. Yeah. Now, if you go to the Olympics,

you know what I'm saying? If you're shooting, I got to pull a hamstring, and I'm a shooter, and I'm doing archery. But if I'm swimming, if I'm doing gymnastics, if I'm running,

most of the Summer Olympics is that his leg dominant is from waist down. What if you Nick and here's the thing, I'm not saying you can't compete, but like you said, the levels are so here. It's so, it's so even look, think about this. Look at no, look at the time, the distance, look at the time differential Look at the time differential between first and fifth. You think a guy can be hurt and win?

Win, yeah. When the talent is right here, everything is right here. It's down to thousands of a second. The margin of error is so slim. No. The margin of error is so slim. I got you.

We're going to have a special guest tomorrow. We can ask him. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to go ahead and let the rabbit out of the bag and the cat out the hat or whatever the case may be. What is it? Cat out the bag.

The cat out the bag. I've got to be talking like Ocho. We're going to have former world record holder in the 400 meters, the 200 meters. Yeah. Two-time Olympic gold medal

in the 400. Yeah. The only man. Who that? Michael Johnson. Oh, boy. We got Mike coming on the show. Fuck it.

Let's go, man. So Michael Johnson is joining us. I got a story about mike but i ain't because i ain't gonna bring i ain't gonna say it because you ain't gonna believe me yeah you ain't gonna believe me so i'm gonna let him tell you so goddamn mike he'll explain it to you in the running because that's the thing can i get enough races in my leg? We've seen, I'll give you a prime example. Look at a thing, Mo. Oh, hey, she's a real deal in the 800, boy. We see that when it's close and you injure, them girls beat you.

Girls would never beat her when she's 100% healthy. Oh, no. But you know what? Her injury was significant, though. If I'm not mistaken, I think it was a it was a hamstring right it was and she didn't get the training in so now you don't get the training in yeah and soft tissue injuries ain't nothing to play with right to be able to turn over and to go through the rounds yes sir maybe if the diamond meet, they pay you to come over. You just want to want running one right. Right. But when you got to go through rounds, yeah, it's a little bit more difficult. That's why. And and the expectations. That's why you tip your hat off to the favorite.

You say, well, every year he went to the Olympics, he was the favorite in the hundred and the two hundred. He was the favorite in the 100 and the 200. And the weight of the expectation and his country, they wait for a year for the Olympics. They're a guy. He has the weight of a country on his back. Some of these athletes have the weight of a country. We have basketball.

We have football. We have soccer. We have so many other sports. But a lot of these countries, they hang their hopes. These men and women are national heroes. I can imagine the welcome that Julianne Alford is going to get when she goes back to St. Lucia. St. Lucia. I'm talking about a country. Listen, I understand.

When they go back to their hometownss i'm sure they're going to get a ticker tape parade but yeah it's different that country is different a different country different you saying boat is the most popular jamaican times over whoever you thought the most the popular jamaican what other than bob marley bob marley i. I was just going to say Bob Marley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You say number two. Yeah. So. Yeah. You're right. And they hang everything on their men's and

women's track team. It's conducive. And people are like, why Jamaica? Because of the climate. It's conducive. Look at the states that produce the fast guys. Texas. The climate. Florida. The climate. Georgia. The climate. It's conducive. Look at the states that produce the fast guy. Texas, the climate. Florida, the climate. Georgia, the climate. California, the

climate. Jamaica, you can go to Jamaica, you're right. You might have a storm here or there, but the weather is ideal. Right. The Kenyans, well, why didn't... It's perfect. You're above altitude, you're training at about 7,000 000 feet so when you come

lungs of full air yeah oxygen that's why you get in a hyperbaric chamber because hyperbaric chamber is altitude that's why they sleep in those they train in that ocho they're running they're sleeping in that that's why they go to... Where's the Olympic training facility for the U.S. track? Colorado Springs. Elevation over 7,000 feet. Right. So,

that was great. It's going to be great catching up with Mike. Oh, Mike, man. Ocho, Gabby Thomas wins gold in the 200 meters with a time of 21.82. The first American since Allison Felix did it in 2012.

Julianne Alford, the 100-meter champ from St. Lucia, got one to silver. And Brittany Brown of the U.S. got the bronze medal. Thomas, who's 27, is one of the biggest stars in the sport and has yet to claim a gold medal. She took the bronze in an event in Tokyo behind Jamaica's Elaine Thompson-Hara and Namibia's Christine Mamba. As well as silver in the 400-meter relay.

Oh, they beat us in the relay? How would you say they beat us in the relay? Yeah, hell yeah. No, we beat them in the world championship. They beat us in the Olympics Championship. Championship, yeah. They beat us in the Olympics for the simple fact. Man, think about who they had.

They had Elaine Thompson-Heron, who had just run 10.61. Shelly Ann Frazier-Prikes, who's run 10.60. Sharika Jackson, who's run 10.60. So, hell, they could have threw Ash on there. As long as she don't fall, they're probably going to get, they're going to at least get the silver. But we paid the ass, we paid the ass back in the world championships.

But Gabby's unbelievable. She graduated Harvard in neurobiology. I think she got a master's degree in epidemiology. She's sensational. She went to Harvard too? She went to Harvard too.

Damn, that's crazy. Okay. Yeah, and she ran. She ran that turf. Because a lot of times, Mocho, she'll lally gag and then turn it on when she...

But she ran that stretch. If I'm the US team, Mocho, I'm putting ass on the four by four. At what leg? Ain't it? I'll put it. I'll probably put it. No, you can't say any leg

because you know, she carries on the four. No, no, no. She's running third. I'm saying the four by four. Four by four. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm going to make sure her and Sidney McLaughlin,

Lebroni. Right. They're both on that team. I'm putting her on there. She can run sub 50. Yeah. I am putting her on that team. Matter of fact, if anything,

because she's so good, I don't know if the 400 is her expertise or her race, but the fact that she... She thought about moving up. Listen, I would put on the first leg just to open up everything, just to open open it up to get us a lead well first of all i don't know there ain't a whole lot of there's not a whole lot of teams that can try out for women that can

run sub 50 we have about six women over there that can all run sub 50 right on a fly sydney mclaughlin can go sub 48 i've seen her do it the reason why i want gabby gabby is a dog and she will fight so even if even if even if you know like that's not her specialty, it is her specialty. Her specialty is winning. Yeah. And I, I want her and what she has in her on that team. I try to think of the lady, uh, at the, uh, uh, I can't think of the white lady. She ran second leg last year at the Olympics.

Um, she's a hundred 100 meter 200 meter specialist who look up the uh the olympic team the four by four i can't think of her name oh man and she hey they put her on there yeah split 48 gabby thomas on the fly She can run 48 seconds. Right? No, no, no, no. Last year, the last, last, last limit Tokyo by four. Damn. No. The four by four in Tokyo.

The winning team. It was theLula Muhammad. It was Sidney McLaughlin. What was the second leg name? She also ran second leg on the 4x1. Abby Steiner. Abby Steiner.

Oh, Abby went to Kentucky. Went to Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah. Abby can go, right? Abby got that. Got that. Now, Gabby is not the 100-meter like Abby is. Right, right.

At 204, she can do it. Yeah. I'm putting Gabby Thomas, and I don't care whose feelings I hurt, I'm putting Gabby Thomas as a leg on the 4x4. She's already going to run third leg. And the thing is, the question that I have is, because all of our women

have already qualified, they've already run the 100 and the 200, are we going to trot out the team that we're going to run the, we get the baton around, are we going to trot out the team that we we going to try out a team that we're going to actually have

for the finals? Because Sha'Carri's done. Sha'Carri's going to run anchor. Gabby's going to run third leg. T.T. Terry will probably run second leg. And Melissa Jefferson will run first leg. Now the question is,

do we let Mackenzie Long or do we let some of the other women you know okay for a chance it's gonna be interesting to see how they play it but i'm that's one of the questions i want to ask mike would you put gabby thomas on a leg of the four by four we know she's gonna run third leg right because she can run the curve she's a 200 meter specialist so she can run the curve. She's a 200 meter specialist, so she can run the hell out the curve. So I want her there. You know what? I got a question. Yes. Let's say

for the sake of argument, hypothetically speaking, Noah Lyles doubles. He doubles in the 200 with gold. He doubles gold in the 200, out of gold in the 2. So when the 4x1 comes up, right? Yeah. Do you let him triple it or do you use one of the alternates Golden to 200. I'll be golden to. So when the four by one comes up, right? Yeah, he's going to run eight.

Do you let him triple it or do you use one of the alternates that you have? Well, the only reason you use the alternate and you probably would because I think, look, Fred is rested. Christian Coleman is rested. Christian Coleman is going to lead off. Fred Turley is going to run second leg.

I would think that for the finals, if they get the baton and they have no miscues, Kenny Benerick would run third leg. And obviously Noah would bring it home. So Noah's going to be on the ankle for the foreseeable future. So you don't think allowing one of the alters to come in and allow them an opportunity to win gold?

Yeah, that might, it all depends. But yeah. I mean, mean i'm just to me as this would be this would almost be somewhat like like a steve kirk situation allowing one of the alternates to get an opportunity to not only win the prize money but give them a chance at a gold medal yeah instead of just being all the way out there in paris for nothing as okay i'm an'm an alternate. Maybe I might get a chance to run. I might not, but I would like my shine as well to say I contributed after taking this long

ass six hour flight. Think about it, Ocho. We got two guys that was on the podium on that relay team. Fred Curley got bronze. He's run 9.76. He's a world champ in the 100 meters he got the silver medal in the last olympics we got kenny benerick he's run 987 he's gonna be in the finals of the

of the 200 uh so we christian coleman is the greatest starter in history especially in american history now you want to take Ben, you know, Ben could actually beat the gun. So now, the blocks have sensors in them. Right. If you go 0.0, he would be,

actually, he was like, out of there. He was gone. Yeah. So now they got sensors in the blocks and if you go faster than that they're gonna dig on dq you but christian coleman's gonna get us off to a great start hey think about this i think i'm obviously i'm just this is hypothetical imagine if fred curly no allows christian coleman kung fu ken. Think about if they knew how to play football. They were fast as they are, but had the skill set and the control to be able to play the game of football. Can you imagine?

I think about Raheem Mostert. Take Raheem Mostert off the Dolphins and put one of them as a running back. Imagine him hitting the A gap. They never played football. I know. That's why I say hypothetically. I'm just thinking, what if they had the skill set but still had the speed? Yeah.

How crazy would that be? Every time they touched the ball. Oh. Now, you look at Bob Hayes. Bob Hayes played football at Florida A&M. Right. You see it, and you see the way he was built. He was a running back.

Right. They drafted him the cowboys drafted him with the 88 uh overall with the hopes that he would give up track and field nah it is like okay no money because remember jesse owens he won the 100 the 200 the long jump and the four by one and when came home, he had to race horses to make a living. Yeah. Yeah. Bob Hayes said, that ain't finna happen to me. I go right into the NFL. They pay $40,000, $50,000, $100,000 a year.

Let me go and get that money. If they had played football early. Right. But if you, I don't know how, have you seen, they frail, they thin. Oh yeah, I know. Yeah, they small now. They small. No, a lot of them weigh 165. But I'm just thinking,

imagine, I should have said receiver then. Because 165 at running back, that ain't happening. I'm just trying to picture them. Hey, I'm just trying to picture them breaking into the open and players thinking, oh, I'm going to catch him to them. Hey, I'm just trying to pitch to them, breaking into the open, and players thinking, oh, I'm going to catch him because I got an angle.

Oh, no. Oh, and it don't even work. No. Like I said, I've been fortunate. I was in the league when Sam Grady, Dada. Yeah. He won the silver medal in the 84 Olympics. He went to Northside Atlanta.

He was moving like that? How tall was that? Probably about 5'8". Probably about 160, 165. Oh, he was taller than Tyreek then? Yeah. He had a little height on him. They could fly James Jett.

I was in the league with James Jett. Yeah. Run on his toes. James run on his toes. Man, that joke called a shallow cross on us. You were out of there? Where the safety was at? What you mean, where?

Try not to get on this highlight tape. That's where the safety was. Hell, I don't blame it. Guys, y'all talking about Xavier Howard is 165. Xavier Howard played football. Wait, you mean Xavier Worthy? Worthy, excuse me. Xavier Worthy played football.

It's hard to take a guy that's never played a sport and say, you know what? Julius Peppers played basketball, but Julius Peppers played football. Antonio Gates had played football. Jimmy Graham had played football. football Antonio Gates had played football Jimmy Graham had played football right um you think you think about how fast Xavier Worthy is yeah based on the combine time yeah he come in day at last with him yeah for sure day at last and it just it's it's a difference in football speed and then elite elite track speed that's why I would why I would just want to see it. I just want to see somebody breaking the open

and just see it because it's a sight to see. When Chris Johnson, when they used to give Chris Johnson that pitch, and that second level miss, you might well strike up the band. Y'all remember Ronaldo, Neal Myers?

You remember Skeets, Neal Myers? You remember Ronaldo? Yeah, I remember him, Neal Myers? You remember Skeets, Neal Myers? You remember Ronaldo? Yeah, I remember him. I'm old enough to remember him. I'm old enough to remember him. He tried football because they boycotted the 80 Olympic. He was the favorite to win the hurdles, but they boycotted him.

Yeah. He said, you know what? I'm going to play football. Well, he didn't have football instinct. On the shallow cross. Ocho, on the shallow cross. He must have ran through zone. He ran through zone? Yeah. He went right back to track and field.

Bad. Yeah. I mean, it's subtle nuances. Yeah. If they had a background like, and I'm not talking about no Pop Warner, but I'm saying let's just say they played high school at the collegiate level. I think Arian Knighton, Arian Knighton played football.

Yeah. And he gave it up because, you know, he was so good at track, which I don't blame him. Mm-hmm. But that's, you're're right that's a different level of speed you gotta say i don't know how many people have ever been to a professional track meet to watch them or to watch a practice then you get an appreciation thanks for it yeah to just how fast they are because you think tyreek every guy that's on that track is Tyreek. So let that sink in. You know how fast

Tyreek is. They got 35, 40 Tyreeks that ran in the Olympics. Yeah. Faster. Yes. Unbelievable.

I mean, what's impressive about Tyreek is a man with his musculature right able to run that fast if tyreek dropped like 30 he too heavy now 195 right coming in right right but but if he's like 165 maybe 170 yeah oh Oh, yeah. Bye-bye. Oh, he'd get out. Especially if he trained. Yeah, oh, yeah. What he has is just, that's, he's naturally gifted, he's naturally fast. If you add the training

that they go through, man, shh. He might want to go back in football, because they don't run that much in football compared to what they do in track. They'll work out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll work out of the beach. Them 250s. Listen, I went to Kentucky.

I visited Kentucky to visit my daughter. And you know me. When it comes to competing, I can't sit still. So I get out there and I want to do the training. I want to do the training with them. Man, I did two 250s and I thought it was over. And then they had the 400 and you had to do the 400. They had two 400s. You had to do the 400 in a certain amount of time.

Oh yeah, for sure. Everything is time-based. There's nothing that you're just running, Ocho. You ain't just running. Everything is time. I told Coach, man, I appreciate the opportunity, man, but I'm going to sit over here and watch. If you're a 400-meter runner, you're probably running 600s. You're running a lot of 600 of sixes yeah because you want to build up that endurance

and the strength yeah you want to build up that you want to build up that strength and you're not getting a whole lot of rest time you're probably you're running 600 meters they probably got you turning around in four minutes running another one i don't want no part of that at all man oh that's them track workouts and i thought i thought we were doing something because we oh so you know we run hundreds we run you know 110 sprints we running like like to run it like the wire receivers running back you're running 14 you're running 14 seconds get 40 you run 14 seconds right 45 second break take a rest yeah oh y'all did that too yeah yeah for sure yeah yeah

i remember that but and we would run 200 we would finish in about 30 seconds we take two minutes break 30 seconds so we'd run around the track and then we walk the time that it takes to get back over there we take off again um yeah run five we'd rest you know, three minutes, run another five rest three minutes, run another five but boy I remember them days boy I don't want no more parts of that wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast

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but oh man i'm so glad them days over the worst kind of tired to be is out of shape tired you know what i'm saying no joe that's why oh you're not gonna get me because that was once they found out you tired now they're gonna get you now you mess up your hamstring you're gonna mess up something else so i make sure i came i'm talking about at the peak yeah conditioning yeah because that's that's that's a terrible feeling don't you to be out of shit i felt bad for some of my teammates and some of my teammates you know they didn't make you know they were overweight and they'd have to run hundreds but a lot of i would run with them right they're like hey you better ask you better ask 84 is he gonna run with i'm like you know what hey keep it from running by yourself i run with you i run with you yeah that's what you know that's another thing i don't like with

it it's one thing to be in shape it's the one that is one thing to think you're in shape it's one thing to think you're in football shape the way we train in offseason and then there's a football shape when you're in an organized structured environment being pushed with the pads on that's why i hate when teams don't have players in training camp and they're holding out for money and all this listen you can't make up for that type of training by yourself it's different you think you in shape you've done all this training in the offseason. You get in the training camp and on the second

or third day, you soar from head to toe. Because it's different. It doesn't matter how much you train, how hard you train. An instructing environment is different when people are pulling and pushing on you and you're having the dogs, folks. You can't implement that kind of training. You can't.

You get in football shape by playing football. Football. You get in football shape by playing football. Football. You get in basketball shape by playing basketball. CD Lamb, I don't like what Dallas is doing. Right. And then because here's the thing. Brandon, not you. You know you didn't want to pay the man in the first place.

Why wait this long? Why wait this long? Exactly. Now you got to go to another team whenever he does get traded you got to learn a new playbook even if you are implemented and you're going to be the X you're going to be the Z

whatever it may be still now you got to play yourself in the shape even if you think you're in shape you're not yeah it all depends

I don't know how y'all ran Gaffs okay the way we ran we run over we did sideline to sideline okay no so this is what we did when I first got to Savannah State

Coach said I only got 55-60 uniforms right Ocho we had like 110-115 20 players on the football team on the football team god damn Coach say I gotta trim the fat

so we use the gases to do it oh that's not fair that's not fair Goddamn. Coach say, I got to trim the fat. So we... Oh, so you use the gases to do it? Oh, that's not fair. That's not fair. Ocho, so over. Everybody get over, okay? Yeah. Over back.

Right. Over back, over. What? Over back, over back. We went to eight. Eight? Eight. It's only supposed to be down back twice We went to eight. Eight? Eight. It's only supposed to be down, back twice.

That's it. Over, back, over, back, over, back, over, back. That's one. We did that twice. And then we practiced. Nah. Uh-uh. Uh-uh.

Ocho. Uh-uh. Right hand before God. Hell nah. Ocho, by 11 o'clock at night man you ought to heard all them footlocker slavers they up out of there they out of there yeah

came back the next day we was down to 75 players from 115 120 to 75 just that quick I can imagine that's more torture though before you think about that and then we had three hour practice in the sun in savannah you from savannah y'all know what i'm talking about man that's me now you know your boy i you know i'm running on

the track i just you know in track season so you know i'm But plus, Ocho, I ain't bought 180, 283 pounds. Back then? Back then, my freshman year. Right. So I already know how coach, we come in, coach going to get, I'm prying. And so, you know, they try to break, you know, they're going to try to break it. See, back then, it's different now. Ocho, I don't know if you got this, but they're going to try to break you first.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I know you're talking about we got that so the defensive coordinator he was in charge of the whistle so he blow the whistle we take off running you know me we don't rank we've been running about 10 minutes right it's all quiet everybody i said i bet you get tired of blowing that whistle before i get tired of running now he blow the whistle I said I tell you what run me till I drop so now my teammate he just blowing the whistle

now they mad at you but he don't know he hurting them cause I already know if it's hurting me it's killing them that's the way I train if it's hurting me it's killing them but I That's the way I train. If it's hurting me, it's killing them. But I say, I tell you what, all I need you to do, coach, run me. Just don't let the cafeteria close because I got to eat tonight. But keep on, let's keep running.

Oh, Joe, he bad. He bad. I tell you what, you know what happened? My homeboy, you see my homeboy, he's going to be in Atlanta. The head coach, Coach Davis said, Joe, they done had enough. I said, see, I told you you get tired of blowing that whistle before I get tired of running. Hey, that's when

you know you're in shape, though. I was petty like that. Damn. I had some good days. You know what? I look back on it. I was like, damn. Why the hell? Ain't no way. Ain't no way now you could put those kids, college or anybody.

Do that? Do that? Oh, no. Hell no. Yeah. Listen, the coaching is different. The coaching, the way we were coached. Yeah. Listen, I'm talking about Pop Warner.

Yeah. Pop Warner. Oklahoma. Man, what you know about Oklahoma drills, man? What you know about Oklahoma drills? Come on, man. And Bully in the Ring. Y'all play Bully in the Ring?

You remember the Bully? Yes. Oh, yeah, Ocho. Listen, you in the ring and they call the number? They call it. And you got a time? I'm ready, Ocho. I'm ready.

I'm ready. Pop your feet. Come on with it. Come on with it. Yeah. I remember them days. Listen, I never forget. I never forget. Bully in the Ring. Come on with it. Yeah. I remember them days. Listen, I'll never forget. I'll never forget.

Bull in the ring. Liberty City Optimist. This might have been 92 or 93. What's the one where you lay on your back? Oklahoma drill. Yeah. Man, listen. Used to be nervous as hell.

Hard beating fast. Oh, man. It was some days. Listen, the coach back then, the coaching back then, it wouldn't even work today. All the coaches would be fired. The cussing, the screaming. Oh, man, it was some days. Listen, the coaching back then, the coaching back then, it wouldn't even work today. All the coaches would be fired. The cussing, the screaming. Oh, yeah.

I don't know if you... I don't know how it was in Savannah, but to give people a better context, if they saw the coaching, the coaching style... Remember the documentary The Year of the Bull? You ever saw that?

Uh-uh. The Year of the Bull? Man. Listen, it's different based on where we from. Yeah. I don't know how it is everywhere else, but out there in the city, in Liberty City, where I'm from, the culture. Man.

Man, I had a team. Oh, Joe. I had a teammate. He was laying on the ground. He was trying to get a rest. Because, you know, hey, pretend like he was hurt. Right. And the coach reached down there and grabbed him and snatched the dude's jock clap off.

Bro, yes. You know how his jock like up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He sneaked. It's whole. Well, clean off. Well, coach must have been strong as hell, boy. Man, look here.

Man, we played a game. I forget who we played. I hope Big Daddy ain't going to come, we played a game. I forget who we played. I hope Big Daddy. Big Daddy ain't going to come. I had a teammate. We call him. He a minister now. I call him Big Daddy, but I do call him Pastor Ford when I'm in his presence.

But ask Big Daddy about this. So we played a game, and one of the receivers didn't get the plays that he thought he would get because he was opposite of me. I started. I was the Z. They kind of rotated the other side. But I guess after the first and second quarter, he wasn't doing what he's supposed to, and he didn't get a play anymore.

So Squirrel, I was two. He was three. He finished the game. And so we ended up losing the game. And the dude, Coach Turner, had his arms folded. Just like, oh, he's standing. And Coach Davis, the head coach, Coach Turner was the offensive coordinator. Coach Turner's standing against the wall just like this here.

And the dude mumbling while Coach Davis talking. Right. I don't know what they're talking about. So he's saying it, but Coach Turner could hear it. Right. I know Coach they're talking about. So he's saying it, but Coach Turner can hear it. Right. I know Coach Turner. I know. He's know Coach Turner, too, because he a year older than me.

Right. No, he two years older than me. He was a year after my brother. I said, ooh, boy, this ain't. I'm saying to myself, Ocho, you know how something's coming? Yeah. And you're like, man, please, please stop talking. He wasn't talking loud, but he was talking loud enough

what Coach Turner could hear. And because I was standing close to Coach Turner, I could hear him. He said it one more time. He slapped him. Now, far from it. Yeah, yeah. He said, man, he said man he said go

you see he just slapped me so Turner said I'll do it again you'll shut the F up yeah that's how the coaching was back then boy

that's how the coaching was back then yes it was all that back talking and all that stuff oh

oh no oh no oh no look Yes, it was. All that back talking and all that stuff. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Look, when Coach Davis came to recruit me, he's like, son, if I was in the NFL, if I had a number one draft pick, you'd be my number one overall draft pick. Yeah. He say, son, how did your coach coach you?

I say, coach, I want to be coach. I say, but you can't curse me. For real? I say, my grandmother never cursed me. Right. I say, coach me hard. If I'm not doing something right, say, son, I need you to do it like this. Coach, I do.

I say, if you curse me it's gonna be a problem we get a new offensive coordinator 88 came in at cursing oh joe so you know up first i'm the number one receiver so you know okay we go through the route tree right out. Five yard out. Run it again. Okay. Maybe I didn't speed out. Maybe I planted and broke out. Maybe you want to speed out. So I swung up

that thing. Wow. Run it again. You know me, football, that's my ticket out of here. All I'm thinking about, hey, I ran it again. Speed cut it. Boom. Quarterback threw it.

Boom. Got it. Turned up. Run it again. What the hell? I said, Coach, I mean, what am I doing wrong? Don't worry about it. Run the mofo route again.

Oh, shit. Hey, O ain't i ain't changed words like my grandma used to say i ain't changed words with you right i dropped him right there yeah i walked into the locker room right coach coach davis said hey where you going? I said, coach, he cursed me. I told him I don't do that. Coach Davis said, Hey, he said, brick. I told you don't F with that one.

I coach him. Yeah. He came to the locker room. He came out. I was already wet by the time they got done with practice. Cause this is at the beginning of the practice. I'm in my bed. I don't, I don't,

we got me some, I don't need to the cafeteria. Hey,. I'm in my bed. I done went and got me some. I done went to the cafeteria and ate. I'm laying in my bed just like this. You're chilling. You're chilling. Yeah. Hold on. I want to know.

Now you got me. I'm all invested in the story. Why the hell he made you run the goddamn speed out? I'm the big dog. He trying to get everybody's attention. So he going to do that through me. Oh, so he trying to antagonize you just for no reason in front of everybody else he trying to show that I'm in control here

so I'm gonna get on him he didn't realize him you don't need to do that bro I'm gonna do what you asked me to do but you can't curse me yeah I don't know hey boy I don't know if you can survive that here, boy. Because, hey, listen, the coaching here, whether it be the collegiate level,

I'm talking about even at UM, whether it be, not that I went there, I mean, I just know high school level. Again, if you ever see the documentary of the Year of the Bull, you got to tell Ash to show you just a small little clip so you get an understanding of what I'm talking about when i played at liberty city optimist you know in the inner city with them with them coaches it's about cursing yeah man listen matter of fact oh joe you know when you in little league and you coming up in high school you know you didn't know any better right right right right everybody got the coaches you know all

the coaches they coached everybody like that but once i got to some size and i'm you know coach hall never coach hall don't curse anyway so coach hall my high school coach that's what coach my mom my mom graduated high school in 1960 he He coached all my uncles. My uncle started graduating in 66, 67, 68. He was the driver's ed teacher. So he like knew my family. Okay. So, but he didn't curse anyway. Right.

So, tell your story, old child. Then we will get over to the thing. My grandfather obviously had a farm. You know, my oldest uncle, he he already gone he got a family blah blah blah but the boys hey they got to work the farm okay y'all y'all hey mr barney the boy's really good uh my oldest uh my second oldest uncle named barney jr they called him vj then my next oldest uncle thurman and then james so my grandfather told Coach Hall, he said, Hall, I'm going to let these boys play football.

Now, if something happen to one of them, y'all going to come here and help me tend these fields. Hey, my granddaddy ain't playing now. Oh, no, no, Mr. Porter, ain't nothing going to happen

to him. I give you my word, nothing going to happen. My youngest uncle broke his ankle. Coach Hall knows this. He already, my grandfather already told him. So he sent the assistant coach to take James home. Uh-hmm. Uh-oh. He pull up there.

My uncle get out there. He hopping. My grandfather meet him at the door. What the hell? Yeah, Mr. Barney, that boy done broke his leg. He said, oh, he did, huh? Paul told you what I said, right? No barney ain't telling he said i say if something happened to one of them boys y'all two gonna help me 10d fields oh and he agreed to that yeah

well mr barney i don't know anything about field. Well, who in the hell going to help me tend these fields? So after that happened, he's like, Hall, you ain't getting no more of my boys. Well, it wasn't but two of us, me and my brother. Right, right. So had my grandfather not passed, we not playing no football. Football, right. No, hell no.

That's funny. Barney Porter didn't play that. He old. Hey, I wish I'd take you to my hometown and people my age. Yeah. You know what that sounds like, what you just said? What did? You saw the movie Fences, right?

Yeah. Remember Denzel's son wanted to play football? Yeah. And Denzel was like, no, you don't want to play football. You need to go find you a trade. Yeah. Where the trade was, you're going to be working in them fields. It wasn't no trade.

You're going to be working in the fields. Fields, yeah. Oh, Joe, Cole Hawker stuns the world. He outkicks Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ, in the 1,500 meters. 1,500. The race billed as a bar brawl because Jakob Ingebrigtsen, the Norwegian, has been doing a lot of talking. He's the reigning Olympic champ.

Josh Kerr, he's the reigning world champ. I like what Cole Hawker said the other day. He was in the race with both of them, and he says, I like where I was. It shows me I can run with these guys. So I'm not giving up on the gold medal yet. Lo and behold, Ingle Brisson tried to take the pace out.

That's what he likes to do. He likes to push the pace. He likes to get out there. Yep. But he did. For 1,200 meters, he pushed the pace. Came out of nowhere. At the very, the last 10, 15 meters,

that was a good kick. But see that's what Kerr that's courage ball You never let anybody pass you on the inside you slam the door. Yeah Never we never never that that's 101 running track run You gotta make you got to make him go around you make it difficult. They can go around you. Yes He blocked you know, you know, he probably he probably thought he could look up at the screen, right? You think there's a screen in front of him? Yeah. He probably didn't even know anybody was on his inside. Well, here's the thing.

He probably, when Inga Brisson blocked him the first time, he thought he was going to give up and probably go wide. Because normally what they do, you block me on the inside, I'll slingshot and I'll come wide. Right. And it make it that much more difficult too. Parker says, nah, you're going to relax and think that's what I'm going to do, but I'm going to come up on your inside again.

Got by it. He have no juice. So now it's between he, Joshua, and the goose. Yep. I mean, but Ocho, if I got, all I can do is give you my best. I mean, think about the time. He ran an Olympic record. He beat his best by three seconds.

Seconds, yeah. What am I to do? Ocho, if I give you my best, if your best, Ocho, you get your best route. And to do, hey, whether it's a shake, whether it's an out, whether it's the end, whatever the case may be. I'll tell you, if the dude cover your best route, what you want me to do?

Yeah, they get paid too. Yes! That man ran three, he ran an Olympic record. I mean, that's the second fastest, that's the second fastest American time ever. Bernard Legat got the fastest time, but only by fractions of a second. Right.

But Cole Hawkins was unbelievable. Yaron Neguse, the first time since 1912 in Stockholm, we've had two men to podium. Mm-hmm. In the 1500 meters. Obviously, that race is normally dominated by the Kenyans uh inger

britson uh won it in tokyo but normally the the the east african nations normally do a great job of the way they train the kenyans or the ethiopians or some of those normally win that race but for cole harker to do that on a big stage yeah no he a personal best by three seconds seconds i mean listen the field the field the field especially in a final will push you to do something extraordinary yes they will push you to do something extraordinary every time you got to that but see think about it that's what it was going to take for him to medal that's what i mean even if he if he runs his best now think about it if he runs 329 which is a second better he ain't get no medal he ain't gonna make the podium right that's crazy if he runs 328

he's gonna get the bronze yeah he has to run a three-second personal best in order to get the gold. And on that day, see, Ochoa, remember that one day. Now, he had never beaten Inga Brisson, never beaten Josh Kerr, but for one race, I just need to be better than you right now. Not tomorrow,

not next week, not an endowment league meet to finish out the season. He'll world champ champ he a Olympic champ that's crazy how that works but again even though still the USA basketball team has

four quarters it ain't happening Valerie Allman won her second consecutive Olympic discus goal becoming the first US woman in the history happening? Valerie Allman won her second consecutive Olympic discus gold, becoming the first U.S. woman in history to accomplish back-to-back goals. She won by

almost two meters. 69.50 meters or 221.184 feet. The best of the field by nearly two meters. She's unbelievable. Tremendous technique. She was a former dancer uh so obviously her feet are very good the rotation she gets great spin she gets great

elevation on the disc she's sensational she's sensational and she looked like she's like pirouette and up there like it's just like so graceful so beautiful and i was able to effortlessly fly out of her hand i was able to to watch that. Matter of fact, when I saw it, when she threw the last one before winning gold, when she threw it, it was veering off to the left. I was like, well, goddamn, it looked like it's going off the field. But I forgot, you know, the field, it widens out. It widens out. So regardless of which way it goes, it'll still be in.

I think the men's discus, I think the guy from Lithuania, Lechner, his dad was the former world record holder, won the gold medal. His dad won in 2004. He's the world record holder. And I think he just set the Olympic record

at this year's Olympic. A discus? In a discus. A shot? Yeah. Ryan Krause won the shot. A Lechner. Isn disc. A shot put? Yeah. Ryan Krause won the shot. A letna. Isn't he from Lithuania? Where is he from?

Greece? That was Krause's second goal, wasn't it? Second or third? Third. Yeah. Third. He won Rio, Tokyo, and now Paris. I should have been a shot putter, man. Man a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot put, too. I watched a shot yards with the right technique. No, you ain't got that kind of technique. Man, if I could spin when I was spinning? Yeah. That's the spin.

There are some shot partners that still glide. No, you got a glide technique. I see where you already started. You got to glide. Oh, no. I'm going to spin with it. No, you got to turn your back to the camera. Nah, I got a different type of technique. They give me twerk, so I get some more twerk. Yes. Yes.

No. Hey, Ocho. Ocho, you got to put, okay, you got your hair here? You got to put this hand up. The turn around. Yes. Yes. See, that's exactly what's going to happen. See go because i i ain't i ain't got no i

got my socks on i know don't worry about it hey i got and you see you see the technique in the in the form though yeah see that's the glide but if you watch ryan he's so he's so he gets so such great elevation on the on the shot right when he took that chalked up, when he put that 16-pound metal ball up under here, that's a lot of torque. That's a 300-pound man that's 6'5", 6'6", maybe even 6'7". Just imagine,

in that little circle, he has to put that ball up under there, rotate, and he normally tries to end it on his first throw once he gets that first throw in now he can relax and relax because nobody else he's going for world records now he's trying to put a 60 a 76 77 foot throw out there i don't know how much farther he can take it because i didn't think anybody was gonna break randy barnes record at 75 10 that

he sat in 88 and i think it was in Sacramento. I remember he broke Ulf Timmerman's record, the great German. I didn't think anybody was going to get 75-10 because really nobody had been close. Right. And then you see Krauser starts knocking on the door. You're like, could he? Could he? And he did.

Yeah. And he obliterated the record. I ain't, no, no, no. He ain't just broke it. Heated the record I ain't nothing he ain't just broke it he shattered the record the United States women's national team punched their ticket to the gold medal round forward Sophie Smith scored in the first half of the extra time to

lift the United States women team to a 1-0 victory remember if I'm not mistaken I think they beat the German team 4-1 in the first round 9 days ago yeah to place the Olympic gold medal game in the first round nine days ago. Yeah. The place, the Olympic gold medal game for the first time since 2012. It will play Brazil, which upset Spain in the reigning women's world cup champions with a dominant 4-2 win.

Is Martha still playing? Yep. She playing. She playing. She still, she still, she still there. She got suspended. But she got suspended. She was suspended for what, for us?

No, she's playing that game. So is she suspended against us too? Or was she suspended the game before and Spain? She was suspended. I think she come back our game. Okay. Okay. Okay.

All right. She's back against us. Oh, Joe. Congratulations. Women back for the first time since 2012. That's a long time. We normally dominate. Yeah.

Dominating that. You know, a lot about a lot of our best players. Megan Rapinoe, Julie Fowdy, all those. What's Megan? What's the other one? University of Florida. Soccer player. The one that just returned. Alex Morgan.

Yeah. The tight end's wife. She retired. Ertz. Is it Jackie Ertz? Junior Ertz. A lot of them. Yeah. Yeah Is it Jackie Ertz? Julie Ertz. A lot of them, you know,

yeah, a lot of them, Ocho, you know, some, you know, having families now, some of them,

you know, you know, Megan Rapinoe retired, Julie Fowler has been gone, but I forget the other one. She went to the University of Florida. And so now this new young blood, a new crop,

knows what is, hey, the expectations. Yeah. You're the, you're the women, this is not the men where there's not a whole lot of expectation and you know they're not expecting

the men to beat Argentina or Spain or Portugal or France or anything they're not expecting that but the women if you come back with anything less than gold we're disappointed yeah most definitely we're disappointed If you come back with anything less than gold, we disappointed. Yeah. Yeah, most definitely.

Most definitely. We disappointed. Most definitely. Be a ham and all them girls done got us small. We got us small. Yeah, we small now, Ocho. Mm-hmm. The Volume. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news

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