Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Thunder Destroy Nuggets + Celtics Down 2-0 to Knicks

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and NBA Legend Joe Johnson react to Round 2 of the NBA Playoffs featuring, Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets getting blown out by Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game 2, Jayson Tatum and the Boston Celtics falling behind 2-0 to Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks, and much more!01:47 - Introduction04:00 - OKC v Denver19:10 - Knicks v Celtics57:00 - Antman’s effort called out by coach last night(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to an iHeart podcast. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We are so so sorry about this game tonight but you know what? We're here. 149-106. OKC dropped 45 in the first quarter, 42 in the second quarter, 87 points, the most points scored in a half of a playoff game and then they dropped another 37 for good measure in

the third quarter and we knew it was over. Well, we knew it was over in the first quarter, but we had to watch anyway. But we thank you for joining us for Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host, the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree, the pro bowler, Pepe, that's Ocho Cinco Johnson,

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You know what? I remember, Joey, I don't know if you remember this, Ocho. In game four, in 2017, I think that was the first year KD was in Golden State. In game four, Cleveland dropped 86 in the first half against Golden State. And it kind of reminded me of this situation like this. Most points in the first half of a playoff game in NBA history.

I thought they had an outside chance to break the Celtics record. Because if I'm not mistaken, I think in a game two, the Celtics scored 157 against the Knicks. Now they weren't the same Celtics that were winning championships in the 80s, but they were still a good team. They had started to age, but they did a number on the Knicks. Now they weren't the same Celtics that, you know, they were winning championships in the 80, but they were still a good team. They had started the age, but they dropped, did a number on the Knicks. Shea Gilder, just Alexander was sensational and they showed you why he's going to win the MVP. 33 points in 30 minutes, eight assists, 11 of 13.

He was perfect from the field, free throw line, 11 of 11. I don't know if I've ever seen a stat like this, Joe. free throw line, 11 of 11. I don't know if I've ever seen a stat like this, Joe. Nah. Plus 51 and plus minus. No, no, no. Plus 51 plus minus. Yeah, that's.

Chet Hongren, plus 34. Jaylen Williams, plus 23. Isaiah Hardenstein, plus 19. Shane, plus 51. Lou Dort, plus 34. They had eight guys in double figures. Everybody, if you touched the floor for the OKC Thunder, you scored in this basketball game.

As a matter of fact, hell, I wish I would let attend this. They by eight. I don't want to buy some yards. They about to put me in the eight. Yeah, hey, they... SGA is the first, check this out, Joe. Go ahead. The highest plus minus in playoff history

since the play-by-play era. SGA is the first player this century to be plus 50 in a playoff game, and he did it in three quarters. Joe, I mean we got to talk about it, but I'm sure there ain't much to talk about. I mean, look. This is how you make amends. You don't dillyilly dally around. You let one slip away the other night. You had the game in control and you bull jived around and you let them get a you missed two free throws at the end. Uh, Braun rebounds the ball, passes out to Russ. Russ gets to the head to

Aaron Gordon. He knocks down a three and you lose a game. They didn't dwell on it. All they did was come out here and drop 149 and say, you know what, that was an aberration. You're going to need to be on your best behavior if you want to get rid of us. When you watch this team play tonight, what impressed you most about the Thunder? Man, just how poised and resilient

they were to start the game. They came out with that desperation that you need. You know what I mean? Like, we know we won the one in game one, but we can't let this from game two get by. So I felt they came out, man, with so much energy, uh, uh, and they just fed off it. Now, Shae Levin for 13, I thought he kind of got off to a great start. He got off to a great start putting pressure on the defense, getting into the teeth of the defense, not only getting

his own, but making plays for others. And the one thing I love about OKC, man, not only do they control pretty much the whole game, but man, they so much selfish and play for one another. They look like so much fun. You know what I mean? 31 assists. Oh man, they were moving that ball. But they know when it's time to get it to their money, they get it to their money with your shade.

And I love how he get to his spots, Uncle Ocho, he get to his, he raised up and shoot, ain't nothing you can do about it. You know what I mean? So tonight collectively, from a team standpoint, they always hit on all cylinders. Everybody was shooting pretty much, you know, in the high fifties or, you know, from the field. I thought they'd done a great job tonight. You know, just really bouncing back, knowing that they had to win this game too,

about to get ready to go on the road to Denver, like this was a pivotal win for them. Nicola Jokic had his worst night, minus 36 plus minus, lowest plus minus minus for his career. He had six fouls, six turnovers, he had six buckets. I agree with you, I thought everybody came out with a sense of urgency, with a purpose.

They are very unselfish. They only had nine turnovers, but they turned the Nuggets over 20 times. And when you turn a team over that many times, you're gonna get some easy buckets. You get easy buckets and all of a sudden you got the crowd into the game and they didn't stop. Every, everything.

I mean, they got so many easy shots. You look at Shea with 11 of 13, Hardenstein, 6 of 7, Jalen Williams, 6 of 11, 1 of 2, 1 of 1, 1 of... I mean, yeah, I mean, you got the role players coming in, but for the most part, at one point in time, they were shooting 59, 60% from the floor. Yeah, this is... You let a team shoot 60% from the floor,

you let a team shoot over 40% from the three, and you let a team shoot over 90% from the free throw line. This is what you gonna get, Ocho. It's kinda like you got a guy throws for 300, he got a 200 yard rusher, and two receivers over 100 yards. 20 yards. Well, they gonna have 40 plus points. Wow, yeah.

Ocho, you look at the Nuggets, 106 points, considering how well they played to come back and win that game. What was most disappointing about what you saw from the Nuggets? I mean, obviously they allowed FGA to set the tone. I mean, the entire team, there was really nothing they could do.

There was really nothing, Yoko obviously had a bad night. Yoko's had a bad night. Porter didn't do much, Aaron Gordon didn't do much. Porter hasn't done much in this series. But go ahead. He hasn't. But I think it's not what the Nuggets didn't do, but it's what. OKC did.

That's what OKC did. They came out on fire, boy. They came out on fire and they understood, you know what, there was no reason we were supposed to let that first game. Y'all weren't supposed to win the first game. So we ain't coming here. We ain't finna play around, we ain't finna bull drive around. We finna set the tone early and everything coming, everything starting and stops, we're at G8. Man, he set the tone right away. He was 11 for 11 from the line, then he 11 for 13 in field goal.

Then he had, man, he was efficient all night. Then you got the bench, the goddamn bench going crazy, Joe. Yeah. Them boys coming in, they scoring. So I mean, I don't think there was anything that nothing could He was efficient all night. Then you got the bench, the goddamn bench going crazy, Joe. Yeah. Them boys coming in, they scoring. So I mean, I don't think there was anything that none could have done to win this game tonight. Absolutely not. I agree with you.

I think the thing is that he's the head of the snake. And so when he goes, all of a sudden he see a couple of shots go in. Everybody saw a couple of shots go in. Chen got off to a really great start. He atoned for those two missed free throws. I'm sure he'd like to have those back, but unfortunately, he don't get those back. He was perfect from the free throw line.

I mean, they was 33 or 36. So even though they shot 36 threes, 36 free throw attempts tell me they're still extremely aggressive, Joe. Because when you shoot that many threes, that's telling me you are extremely aggressive. Even though you still got 30-plus three-point shots up, you got 36 attempts from the free throw line.

So I'm not settling, here at Boston, we're going to get to you in just a second. They're putting pressure on the defense. Hey, you're going to have to continuously slide. And guess what? They're on the glass. They were on the glass tonight. They get second chance. They They caught on the glass. They were on the glass tonight. They get second chance.

They were diving on the floor. They were getting loose balls. They were not going to let this game slip by them tonight. And they won the ball game. I thought they were going to win by 50, have another 50 point win. Cause if I'm not mistaken, they beat, uh, Memphis, I think the first game by 50 plus and looked like they were about to have another one, but when you score 40, 45, 42, 37 37 that game was over I mean by the time your starter's

gonna be sitting up it will be chilling cuz well SGA played 30 minutes nobody else played more than 30 but SGA played the most Hongren played 26 Jalen Williams played 26 Harden Stein played 22 Lou Dort played 27 and then you got your role players of playing 12, the most, I'd say a Joe, he played 17, he had 14 points. But that's good, because the next game is what, Saturday? I think the next game is Saturday. So now you get a head start on rest, you get recovery,

the guys probably with, you know, pad ice on their knees and their ankles start, and now you get two days off. So they're gonna, huh? Oh, the game is Friday? Okay, well, hell, this was an easy game for them. This was an easy lift. This was like a shoot around. Yeah.

Oh, okay, see, this is good for them though. You know, good confidence boosts and getting ready to go on the road, you know, playing in Denver, it's gonna be a tough atmosphere. You know, you know, Denver's gonna play a lot better at home. You know, Porter, hopefully he plays better, him and Gordon play better. I'm not so sure I wouldn't start Russ.

I mean, I've seen it, I mean, at some point in time, you gotta, I gotta get more out of him, Joe. I mean, I'm getting zero points, I'm getting two points in the first half. That's not enough. But don't you think it's better to have Russ coming off the bench to give you that energy, to give you that spark?

I know you're giving that energy, but he's giving you energy you're so far in the hole. Yeah. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Because you see, you spotted him. I mean, you have a two-nothing lead and the next thing you know, you're down is 20 to four. Right. And the next thing you know, it's 36 to 12. I don't think they're going to do that though. Okay. Oh Chuck.

I don't think so either. I think they're going to keep Westbrook coming off the bench because of his spark, you know, his emotional leadership that he brings. They need that. They don't need him in their starting lineup. I'm sorry, I don't wanna see him in the starting lineup. I wanna see him continue to come off the bench. But I think if you Denver, man, you gotta kinda just

follow this one up and throw it out the window, bro. You gotta watch him. You can't even watch film on this, man. We down. Bam, man. There's no pluses that. You got to watch him. You can't even watch film on this, man. We down, bam, it ain't, there's no pluses that you could take away from it. You just gotta be happy with the fact that you won the OKC, you won the first game,

you got the game. So to me, it kinda looked like they just kinda, you know, they were, it looked like they were satisfied with that one. That's exactly what I was gonna say. It looked like they were kinda satisfied a one. That's exactly what I was gonna say. It looked like they were kind of satisfied a little bit as I'm watching it. Because they ain't had that bite back

or that sense of urgency that you need to compete on the road. And I'm like, man, being down 50 on the road, that's crazy. In the playoffs, like, I've never seen nothing like that. Like, OK, we're ready for this moment. Hey, I know, I young and Joe, I know it's really early, but did the Thunder official announce themselves as a legit finals threat?

Or do you still think difference gonna come out with the series? Oh, they've been did that I mean you don't win as many games as they won and not be a serious contender I know everybody said they're young still the youngest team in the NBA, right? But if you look at this, oh chill they've beaten a lot of teams like this in the regular season Yeah, this is a game series though on this different. It season. So it's not like it's not- Yeah, but this is a seven game series though, it's different. It's the playoffs, it's a seven game series. Can they continuously do this throughout the series though? The way they play tonight?

No, nobody can do that. This is, I mean, there's a reason why, I mean, think about what they did. Think about what you just said. Can they continuously do this? But yeah, can they continuously, they won 67 games for a reason. They beat the best teams in the NBA, and they beat them decisively.

If you look at that plus marginal victory, it's been sensational. It's been one of the best in NBA history. So absolutely, they've been announced themselves, because if you think about it, last year, they kind of underperformed because Luca and Kyrie did a number on them. They were really young.

They're still the youngest team in the NBA, but they're absolutely, you know what you're gonna get. They got those two bigs and they got the MVP. Now, Jalen Williams had his best game, but if you think about it, he still didn't shoot, he wasn't that efficient. He's better, he's an All-Star. He's better than what he's been showing in the postseason.

So what happens when he gets it going? Shay, this was Shay's best game. Now, Shay has played some games, but he was shooting 41%. he's better than what he's been showing in the postseason. So what happens when he gets it going? This was Shay's best game. Now Shay has played some games, but he was shooting 41% coming into this game, what, 42%, 41.7. So now this is more like the Shay we're used to seeing. A guy that can give you 30 or 50 plus percent shooting.

That's what we're used to seeing. Them playing like that, no. Do I think they gonna get to get to 149? No, probably not. No. But do I think they can play it just be, even if you don't score 149, you can still play well and not get 149. You can play well and get 120. Or 125, 130.

Yeah. But you have, I mean, think about it, Ocho. That's the most points in NBA history in a half. Yeah. Yeah. The NBA ain't going on for 77, damn, history in a half. Yeah. Yeah. The NBA ain't going on for 77, damn near 80 years. Yeah.

So the Nuggets team, they don't have nothing to be worried about. Nuggets fans, is this a bad game or should they be worried? They should be worried. I mean, the Thunder was the number one seed for a reason. They're not a fluke. They're not. fluke. They're not. This has been building. And it goes, you know, last year was,

it probably was a year early. They've arrived. They've arrived. They believe. I think they definitely have arrived, but you know, they've been tested because now they gotta go on the road to play against a tough Denver team

and they have to win in Denver. They gotta win one to get their home court back. They gotta win one to get their home court back. So look, I think coming into this series with OKC being off for such time, and Denver, you know, going through their grueling seven game series with the Clippers, they came in with a little momentum.

And I think they kinda hit OKC in the mouth and it shocked momentum. And I think they kind of hit OKC in the mouth and it shocked them. Now I think they, you know, took a step back, but today they took a step forward as far as, you know, regaining their confidence, coming out playing OKC basketball, playing that pressed up, dogged up defense from start to finish. I mean, this was an awesome game by OKC

and it's just, you know, momentum going into game three in Denver. The Knicks storm back to beat the Celtics. The Knicks are going home with a 2-0 lead in the number 2 seed Boston Celtics. 20-point comeback consecutive days. This is the first time this has happened in the playoffs since the tracking started in 1998. Jalen Brunson again 9 points 306 202 from the free throw line. The Knicks have scored 226 points in the fourth quarter of this postseason. This is the most by any team. There's a reason why Jalen Brunson won the Clutch Award. He's that.

But I thought the guy that really saved them was Mikael Bridges. Mikael Bridges had no points. And in the fourth quarter, he goes and gets 14. And the Celtics not gonna learn. You keep saying they didn't win the championship. At some point in time, they're gonna realize, you see what happens when them threes don't fall, Lucho? You get a 20-point lead and you keep shooting that they won a championship. At some point in time, they're gonna realize, you see what happens when the threes don't follow, Joe? Yeah.

You get a 20 point lead and you keep shooting threes. And the next thing you know, it's a 12 point lead, it's an eight point lead, and now all of a sudden, they got a one point lead or three point lead on you. Well, hold on, I got a question, Joe. What's up? Listen, if you live and die by the three, at what point do you make adjustments?

Isn't that on the head coach? If you know you have a team, you have players that can play, you have offensive plays that you can run and you steadily just chucking up threes and they not going in, what point do you call the time out and change something up? Ocho, Ocho, they ain't got nothing to do with Joe Mazzullo. They ain't got nothing to do with the coach. I, I put the, the onus and blame on Tatum and Brown. You know, yes, because they are the most talented duo

that we have in the NBA right now, I think. Nobody can guard them two. It took them halfway through the first quarter before Jalen Brown decided to go mid post, and, you know, he got an and one from the mid post. He shot the ball, got an and one. Come right back down, he in the mid-post again, he score another bucket.

Well, that kind of got him going. Then next thing you know, he in his bag to start off. He got off to a great start. He was ready. Yeah. But man, it's like... And then what happened, Joe? They started jacking up threes. It's like, they started jacking up all these threes.

I'm like, bro, y'all gotta keep going to the wheel. You know, keep getting water from there, man. Like, keep milking that. Because even though New York got some wings that can guard, I don't, I just don't think, I think if Tatum, I think Tatum and Brown got another level they can go to, and I think they just letting them dudes off the hook, man. Going with them step back jump shots.

Them dudes shooting 10, 11, 12, 15 threes a game. Okay, Ocho, we in the hook, man, going with them step back jump shots. Let me do it. Shooting 10, 11, 12, 15 threes again. OK, Ocho, we're in the playoffs, man. Like, I expect, you know, the best, the cream arrives to the top as far as talent wise. And I look forward to Tatum and Brown, man, starting to get to that cup, bro. Like, you can't keep selling for all these threes. You know, the midi, I always talk about the mid-range game, but it's always open because they got a lot in their bag. And what we got to do is give New York a lot of credit to them.

Give New York a lot of credit for them guys sitting down, switching on defense, just playing man to man, good one-on-one man-to-man defense and making them dudes take tough shots. That... When you look at it, Mikael Bridges in game two in the fourth quarter, he was sensational. 14 points. All of his points came in the fourth quarter.

He had seven rebounds, five assists and two steals. But like you said, Jason Tatum, five or 20 from the field. Jaylen Brown, eight or 23 from the field. Two or seven from the three, one or five. Al Horford has been bad. The first two games, Al Horford had been bad. And you see, this is the cat I've been asking for. What did he do, Ocho?

He took his big butt down to the post. In the block, in the post. And gave it to Al. Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't selling for no threes. He shouldn't sell it for the three. He attempted one three tonight. Yeah. Yeah.

One. Yeah. He was aggressive. This is, see, this is cat. Carl Anthony Towns liked to shoot threes. Kat like to get his big butt down on the block and punish folk. They got nobody can guard him. Don't let up off the hook.

Yeah, yeah. I agree, I agree. Say it. Hey, Kat controlled the interior man against the Celtics all game long. He out rebounded the Nick. I mean Hold on. Yeah, he out rebounded the Knicks. I mean the Knicks. Yeah, really about rebounded the Celtics. Damn. They're all by itself Yeah

The thing is 21.17 that that yeah, I still don't understand Joe Yeah I don't understand Oh When we go when we play two halves, right? And we go into halftime, the first thing we do if something's not working, what we normally do, we scrap it, we go to something else.

So y'all two sitting here telling me this is the way they play, and they gonna live and die by the three, well, something got to change. Because this is looking, y'all told me, both of y'all told me that the Celtics are gonna win this series. And the way it's looking right now

It's about to be a gentleman sweep. Oh the other guys they ain't way. Oh Joe. Oh look now We do have to pause a little bit because this series ain't over bro, Boston I know I know but down to that makes it that much more difficult Yeah, but they the best road team in the NBA for whatever reason They've been the best road team in the NBA. For whatever reason, they've been the best road team in the NBA and they play well on the road. Whether it's just because it's just them players in their locker room, I don't know what it is,

but they squandered away two games. So I look for a sense of desperation coming from the Celtics when they go to New York. Now New York gonna be live. Them people gonna be in there ready, man. They gonna be in there. And best bag legal be out of the damn food. Oh man, man, it's gonna be.

He looking to do the right thing. Hold on. He's gonna be crookly, he's school days, however you want to say it, Spikes gonna be on one. Hey, Joe, I'm glad you just said that. You said the Celtics now would be in an act of desperation. So, what's the first thing when a team that is desperate,

what's the first thing they gonna do? Go do what they know how to do best, right? Jack up three. And how has that worked the past two games? I got them... that is definitely what's the first thing they gonna do? Go do what they know how to do best, right? And jack up three. And how has that worked the past two games? Joe, you said it. Joe, they were doing good too, Joe. They were driving the ball, getting the ball to the paint,

and then all of a sudden, I mean, they got through like three offensive rebounds. Three, miss, three, miss, three, and then talk about... I'm talking about, it's like, in the second half, I could kind of feel it, like just dwindling away. It's like, I don't know, man, New York, you know, in the fourth quarter, especially, it just went into another gear.

And the only thing New York wanna do, they just wanna hang around on that old show. That's it. They wanna be, they just gonna have a fighting chance with the last five minutes of the game. And it's like from the Detroit series now to this series against Boston. They have kept themselves alive, man. They've been down 20 points in both games on the road. And you come back and in the fourth quarter, under five minutes, you have a fighting chance.

And every time they've came through in clutch moments, they made big plays defensively. Give Mikael Bridges his props because he's played. Josh Hart too. Yeah, give Josh Hart his credit too. But I'm just speaking from Mikael making these huge plays at the end of game one and the end of game two. Yep. Yeah. I don't know. I got it. But you see what happens. Coach Joe, they hadn't gotten so far out rhythm. See, the thing is, when you take so many threes, you've forgotten how to run set plays. Because all you do is use the jacket up threes.

You put the high pick, and guess what? Launch a three. Right. They get the switch, launch a three. Three, yeah. Launch a three. So now, in the fourth, now in the last final two minutes of the game, when you need something going to the basket,

it's hard to get some. Now they had a great play with Jason Tatum. They got the high pick and he split it and he dunked the ball. They tried to run that same play, but OG did a great job of sinking and wouldn't let it, so they had it leveled off. And they pushed him to the corner. And so he got there and there's Mitchell Robinson

and there's Mikael Bridges. So they had him hemmed up and he really couldn't go anywhere. So he's looking to pass and there's Mikael Bridges. So they had him hemmed up and he really couldn't go anywhere. So he's looking to pass the ball. Mikael Bridges deflected, he got it through the head. But that's what happens. When you're used to jacking up, it's like a football game.

When all you're doing is used to Atlanta, all they were used to doing was throwing the ball, throwing the ball. Now all of a sudden, Ocho, you need to run the ball to take some time off the clock. Well, he ain't got no running players, Ocho. Oh, it's a New England game. Yes. So because, guess what? In the second half, you ran the ball less than New England, and they were the ones that were down 28-3. So how is that possible? You got fewer rush attempts, and you up by 25, then the team that's down by 25, make it make sense.

And you see what happens? Think about how they got a 20 point lead, they running the ball, lay up, Holliday doing what he's doing. Look, they trying to pick Holliday off of Brunson. They want anybody else. They try to get the match up, they gonna get the match up with Pritchett.

If he's in there, they want that matchup. If they got Al Horford, hey Al, you busy? Come into the hollering right quick. So he, and you see brother, and you see brother, he has it, he got that heavy, he upfaking, you jump, he going to ride you. Now, if you sit hand down, Mark Jackson, if you're hand down, man if you're hanging down man down

Yeah, right, and he pull it so I look at some point in time. It looks good. Oh Joe they took and You're not golden state Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. You're not golden state. You're not Stephen Clay You're never gonna be known as the greatest shooting backcourt in NBA history. It's not gonna happen Hey, so I don't care. I don't care if you shoot a thousand threes each of you. Well, I mean you shoot a thousand Derek White shoot a thousand that's three thousand threes between those three players Nobody is ever gonna confuse though you three guys with Stephen Clay. It's not gonna happen man. Listen We got to give New York credit, though, on the old show.

You know, see, the thing that's keeping Al and they bigs, you know, limited, is because when they run the pick and roll, they not doubling the ball, they not doing nothing. They switching. And they make... Nathan Brown and Jason Tatum going to their bag, and you gonna have to show us something to where, if you can score 30 or 40, one on one, okay, cool, we gonna deal with that.

But the thing is, Boston has had a hard time. Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum has had a tough time against Mikael Bridges, OG. Josh Hart, OG. You know, even Kat. Kat just sat down and guarded Tatum and Brown on multiple occasions. So, you know, those dudes are there for the fight, man. They ain't playing. They come to win.

And they've shown in both games. Just such a gritty, gritty tough team, bro. They've been like that the whole year. And when you watch these dudes play, you look at they starting five and all the men that they packing in, I'm like... They log. 43 from...

Mikel Bridges had 43 tonight, OG had 38. Towns had 35, Brunson had 38, Josh Hart had 43. Yeah. But... But maybe it's just me. But Jaylen Brown got the loosest handles I've seen about NBA superstar player. A guy that that's good, his handles shouldn't be that loose, Joe. No. They shouldn't be.

The six turnovers, he had six turnovers a day. Yeah, I mean, I'm talking about his handles, I mean, and it plagued him. You remember when they lost to Golden State? It was his handles. He kept getting the ball swiped. He couldn't score consistently. And Jason Tayton was even worse than Jalen Brown, if you can believe that.

But they fixed it. They righted it wrong. They ended up winning the championship. But they better get an A. The worst thing you can do is give a guy confidence. A guy knock you down in a fight, he might not, oh, he a heavy underdog. That's the, and the longer you leave a guy around, Ocho,

the better more he think he can beat you. That's what happened with Buster Douglas. See, all of a sudden, Mike Tyson been getting him out there in the first three, and now we in deep water. I don't know how well you can swim. I know in the kiddie pool, you can stand your ass up and the water's only ways deep. I got your ass right here.

Your feet can't touch the bottom. Hey, listen, New York don't plan on coming back to Boston, guys. They don't plan. No, I know they don't. They don't plan on it. Hey, it's not, listen, it's not looking good. I don't know how many Celtics fans we have

in the chat that are watching. I would like to know in the chat, if you feel like the Celtics have an opportunity or chance to come back Please let me know please let me know because based on what I've seen the past two games and the little bit of knowledge I know from watching the games the past two three years. It's not looking good Chan. I know you mad you upset Nixon five I know you mad, you upset. Nixon five. Hey.

Think about it, the Celtics shot 15 free throws. Now they've missed 75 threes in two games. Damn. 75. They shot 25%. They shot 25% tonight. Ash, what did they shoot the other night on Monday? There was 15 or 60

Hey, but they joke they they're not gonna look like that the rest of the series though They don't have a game with Derek White is Said it was gonna look like this in game two. That's two games I said that? They shot 20, guess what? They shot 25% the first game. Yeah, I think the Knicks

I think the Knicks making an emphasis You know, I know they, I know the Celtics missed a few wide opens, but I think the Knicks making an emphasis not to give up wide open you know, too many wide open. Yes. Right, they contested everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They making it tough, man. They making them dudes work, you know, on both ends of the floor.

And I'm not sure if it's taking their legs, but Boston do look a little hobbled. They got a guy that, you know, Tatum don't look like he moving that great. Holliday don't look like he moving that great. But Holliday just coming off that hamstring. So I expect him to be, and you know, they're making it work.

I mean, the guard Brunson, I mean, he's taking all he got cause Brunson, they run them off picks and they keep picking him and doing all those things. They're gonna make you go side to side. Cat, this is what I'm talking about, Cat. One three point attempt, he punished Al on the block. Yeah. Yeah. They ended up having to put Jaylen Brown on him,

but Jaylen too small. Too small. Jaylen too small. Jason Tatum too small. They ain't got to put Jalen Brown on him, but Jalen too small. You're too small. Jalen too small. Jason Tatum too small. They ain't got nobody that can deal with Kat. If Kat make up in his mind, and this is what we've been asking Kat to do. See, this is what we asked Kat to do against Dallas last year. But no, he wanted to shoot threes.

And the game that he went down on the block, they ended up winning, Ocho. But then guess what? Next game, we come back out there. Hold on, Porzingis, they can't make the adjustment of Porzingis at the final. He too light, right? He needs some cinder blocks in his back pocket. I know, but you got to have somebody with some size and some length in order to deal with Canada. You're gonna get the same goddamn results.

Hey, look here. You not catching no tuna on no cane pole. So, cane pole is for Briam. Cane pole is for small catfish. But, listen to what you just said, Joe. You not even the coach for the Celtics. Matter of fact, hold on. You not even the coach for the Knicks.

But you just said what to do to win this series. Yeah. Do the same thing. They didn just said what to do to win this series. Yeah. Do the same thing. They didn't got nobody to deal with, deal with, um, to deal with Kat. Here, go back to old, go back to old school ball, go back to those, had a point guard, had Brunson bring it up and had goddamn cat ass in that goddamn post. Or at the, instead of the top of the kitchen. I think, uh, Tives, coach Tives, he like getting cat on the move on the goal

Like I don't think he really wanted me like stand still you know what I mean like right right? He's dumping it down that to him like I know they will do it especially in the fourth quarter They've done it quite a bit You know going down the stretch, but to start the game off they try to get it moving more pick and roll pick and pop You know things of that sort, but it's kind of Boston taking that pick and pop away a little bit too, because they switch everything as well on either end. They do. Yeah. And they got Lili Defender, you know, Al's normally a better defender than that,

but Derrick White can defend. Holliday and Derrick White both was all on the all-defensive team. We saw Jaylen Brown do a great job on Luca last year in the playoffs. Al Horford is normally a better defender than what he's been showing these first two games. I think he'll pick that up. But the thing is is that, you know, like you said, we got to give the Knicks some credit. The Knicks are executing their offense,

especially, especially when the rubber needs to meet the role. This is, look, I don't want to hear how good your offense is or your defense is if you can't get done what you need to get done when you Absolutely got to have it. We talk about this all the time Joe in football Ocho and I said yeah, man They got the best offensive football, but they couldn't stay on the field in fourth on third down They couldn't get a first down. They couldn't they couldn't get the ball in field goal range Well, that don't tell me how good you are. Okay, that defense they're giving up ten points a game

Well, why you let them go right down the field and score a touchdown and win the game? So it doesn't matter what your statistics say. It only matters. Can you get done what you need to get done when you absolutely have to have it? And right now, when the Knicks need to get it, I don't know what they are offensively in the regular season. I don't know what they are defensively in the regular season. But I know this when they need to get stops, they get them know this. When they need to get stops, they get them. I know when they need to get buckets, they get it. It is really that simple.

I mean, we can make sports as complicated as we want to. We can talk about the one, you know, we could do one flat, you know, one floor, and we could do the pick and pop, and we can do all this. We can do flopping, we can do pin downs, and we can do flares and pop and we can do all this. We can do flopping, we can do pin downs and we can do flares, call it whatever you want. Can you put the ball in the bucket when you need to?

Can you stop them from putting the ball in the bucket when they need to? And right now one team can put the ball in the bucket when they need to and stop the team from putting in the bucket when they need to and the other team can't. It's really that simple. Yeah, I wanna play devil's advocate real quick. Go ahead.

Uncle Joe. So think about this. Now, I'm assuming at some point that the Celtics are gonna play well, right? Derek White gonna be on, Jayden Brown gonna be on, Tatum gonna show up and do what he's used to doing, right? But what happens if they go in the Knicks win game three? What happens just just so happen they steal a game winning for free?

Because oh you say oh Joe you said what happens when the Celtics play well What happens when the Knicks play well the Knicks shot 43% they shot 29% from the three right? I can see like they playing well. They're not. Okay, but I'm just saying, that's why I said, let me just play devil advocate. Game three, what happens if they steal game three too? New York?

Yeah. I mean, they bossing back against the wall. They can't, man, listen, they gotta do whatever they can game three to go into Madison Square and win their game, bro. I don't care how you, you can win ugly, you can win pretty, but you can't not. But you gotta win? Ocho, they can't go in that game three

and come out of that down O three, bro. Nah, they can't. I don't see a scenario where they win in fourth straight. You don't see a scenario where. If they go down O three, I don't see a scenario where Boston win fourth straight. No, no, no. See, I told you, I should have, I knew I should have bet y'all.

I knew I should have bet, because some just told me everybody, every analyst, every punting, the basketball experts, everybody had the self-disc winning and the Knicks are proving everybody wrong. Well, they proved, they proven all y'all wrong and I just, I don't know. I know what I'm seeing. I know what I'm seeing and I just don't, for life of me I don't understand. Okay, the threes aren't working run some goddamn plays What the F are we doing? I'm not we excuse me my bad, but what are they doing? It's what it's kind of out your in the football term when you throwing the ball and you brought run it well Yeah, it's like it's like Kansas City. We we saw that in the Super Bowl We thought hey, you gotta man, you got to take some pressure

off Patrick Mahone. But they really ain't run the ball all year. Their offensive line has been bad. Yeah. And so now you get Pacheco, who's just coming back off injury. Clyde Edwards and Laird, they had released him because he had some things going on, dealing

with some things. They signed some running, but I forget who they signed. And they had the guy from Cincinnati. What's the guy? With the big beard. I forgot his name. We got the last name but I forget who they signed. And they had the guy from Cincinnati. What's the guy, uh... With the big beard, I forgot his name. I forget him. He caught the play in the championship game against Buffalo to run the time out. But when you're not used to doing something, Ocho,

it's hard to go... You're used to throwing the ball. Boston used to shooting the three. So it's hard to tell them, okay, guys, let's just run some sets now. Yeah, okay. Well, we bring Jackie the threes all them, OK, guys, let's just run some sets now. Yeah, OK. Well, we've been jacking up threes all year. You can't.

They can't run sets, though, because New York is switching everything. Like, so it may switch, and you may catch Brunson guarding Al Horford. You know what I mean? You want to try to take a bunch of that. But outside of that, you know, you just hope that Tatum and Tatum or Brown just take the initiative.

Catch it at the elbow, catch it at the high pulse or whatever. They probably ain't even got to take a dribble to even get a shot out, but you need them dudes more aggressive, more active, probably even less pick and rolls. And they got to try to get to the basket, man. If not, you know, settle for some of them mid-range shots versus just selling for 15 threes a night. You know, Pete, you can't have that. Yeah, they need to play better. Kat versus Boston, he had 21.17 rebounds. He's the first Knicks, first Knick

to reach those numbers in a playoff game since Carmelo did it in 2011. Jason Tatum in game two, he was 13 points, 14 rebounds, shot 5 or 20 from the field. Is it time to talk about Jason Tatum? Because he has not shot the ball well. See, we go back and look at those 35, oh, he had three straight gains of 35 points, 30 plus more points against Orlando. But look at the shooting percentage. Look how many shots he took him to get that. Yeah. He's shooting 40% from the floor. Yeah, it is time to have a serious conversation about Jason Tatum.

Because everybody see, everybody still want to harp on what happened in France. That happened. We can't go back. We won the gold medal. Yeah, I'm sure everybody would have loved to play 17 to 20 minutes. But that wasn't going gonna be the case.

It's never been the case, just like on the original Dream Team, uh, in 96 and 2000, the Redeem Team in the... or whatever the case may be. Everybody over there is deserving. And, well, he got guys on his teammates, Holliday playing, and I don't care about that. That's over. We got the gold medal. Let's talk about him now and the playoffs and those shooting percentage.

They beat an Orlando team that they should have beat. Now, he struggled shooting the basketball in these playoffs. And he struggled struggling shooting it again. And it's time to have a conversation. It ain't about no hate. We're going to take the face of the NBA off the table. They ain't got nothing to do with it right now. Let's talk about him and his play currently. Yeah. He's not the face.

We know who the face of the NBA is. No, I'm saying we're gonna take that off the table for the time being. The conversation in general. Right. I think he still has a chance to, you know, come out and redeem himself in this series. Like I said, the series ain't over.

I think that they're a great, you know, road team and the testimony of a true champion is how you bounce back and defeat. Right. I think, you know, if... Obviously, we know they got a championship pedigree they won last year. This is probably gonna be the hardest task that they're gonna have to deal with going into New York trying to win game three. That's all they need to be.

Not at this point, don't even worry about game four. We just need to do whatever we can to get game three. And that's their biggest challenge at this point. ["Dreams of a New York City"] Get some confidence. They need confidence. Because right now, I don't care what they're saying. Now they're going to say all the right things, Ocho.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like you in the corner and that guy done beat the hell out of you for six rounds. You right there, champ. He fading. No, he not, coach. Somebody help him. Somebody help him because I'm looking for the right.

He's killing me with that lead left. You know, it's only one way for them to get confidence, right? Your shots got to be in the right spot. You know, you're not going to get the right shot. You're going to get the right shot. You're going to get the right shot. You're going to get the right shot. You're going to get the right shot. You're going looking for the right. He's killing me with that lead. You know, it's only one way for them to get confidence, right? Your shots got to fall. In order for Jason Tate to get a rhythm, he got to keep shooting.

Even if, I'm sure, obviously it depends. I don't know how his mental is. You know, some players are mentally strong. They could be in a slump. They don't care. They're going to keep pulling the trigger. I mean, if he have a mental block, but it series might be over especially If they come to the guard and they and they win game three Man, I got I got I got Boston showing some grit. I got him show they they so you oh, whoa. Hold on

Hold on Joe. Hold on. Be though. Hold on. I'm gonna go it. Oh, when is game three on? Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, Joe, hold on, hold on now. Come on, go ahead. When is game three, huh? Saturday, shit. Saturday. Saturday. So, Joe, you got Boston winning game three Saturday?

Yeah, I got Boston winning game three. Are you sure about that? You wanna pull a change on that? Man, you so flippo, bro. I'm scared to even bet with you. I ain't gonna lie to you, old Joe. Nah, nah, we gon' make it light. Nah, we gon' make it light.

I'm saying. How much you gonna bet it, boat, Joe? How much you light. Nah, we gon' make it light. I'm saying. How much you gon' bet it, Bocho? Huh? How much you gon' bet it? Just a light hundred dollars? Nah, okay. All right, all right, Ocho. Yeah, a little hundred, a little hundred.

A little hundred. There ain't nothing. There ain't nothing. Hey, this is how you know Jason Tate of not being aggressive. He shot two free throws. Yeah. Jalen Brown shot four free throws. Those are your two best players.

And they shot a combined six free throws between the two of them. Yeah. Wait, it's hard to get it. It's hard to get to the hole. It's hard to get to the paint. It's hard to even get in there. Nah. It's hard to shoot free throws when you're shooting threes. Oh Joe, I ain't finding no jump shooter. Hell, I'm gonna let you shoot it. If you want to stand up there and chunk it, hey, if you want to stand up there and chunk it in the ocean, go ride ahead. You ain't doing no damage. Hey, listen, that's why I say we got to give New York credit, man. It ain't that easy. Like, them dudes sitting down, they playing, they guarding, they get third move. You know what I mean? Like, they ain't just giving them dudes no layups.

I just think Tatum and Brown are so talented. They talented enough to be able to impose their will as far as scoring the basketball. Like, nobody should be able to stop them, too. They're too gifted, bro. They got too many tools in their toolbox, and they're just using this one wrench. Man, you gotta bring something else up out of their toolbox, bro. Yeah. But, Joe, you know when you have success

doing something that's hard for you. You think, hey, if Kareem would have his... I mean, think about it. If somebody could take away that sky hook, what is Kareem gonna go to? He's had success with the sky hook so much, that's all he knows because they've shot the ball so well from three, they've made the three.

Oh, you know, when they lose a game and they shot 33s, I tell them, well, the problem is we should have shot 40, we should have shot 50. So that's ingrained in their mind. So now, hey, let's not go to the basket. Let's not try to get fouls. Let's not try to do that. Let's just stand back here and Jack threes.

Eventually they're gonna go in. They might, but it might not go in in this series. Well, they are deadly when they're attacking the basket. Like I say, early in the game, man, when they would get into the cup, making plays, getting second chance offensive points, things of that sort. Cause see, when you attack the game, man, when they would get into the cup, making plays, you know, getting, getting outfits, getting second chance offensive points, you know, things of that sort. Cause see, when you attack the basket,

even if you're on Mitch, you give yourself a chance to get a put back or something. But then when you just out there shooting them long threes, man, and they bouncing off, they fast breaking it the other way. You know what I'm saying? It's a momentum, momentum buster. And that's what them threes do.

That's what them threes are doing, man. They leading to, you know, mismatches on the other end. I mean, I'm looking at Al Horford. I'm not, hey, Uncle, I'm not Cleo. You know, I'm not, uh, I'm not really one that's able to tell the future. I think the final gonna be, um, Nixon-Wooles. You think Nixon who?

Wool. Wool. Nixon. Nixon who? I know y'all probably don't like to hear it. Yeah, I'm telling you. I don't know if the wolves can beat the thunder. Well, I'm telling you. wolves can beat the thunder. Well, that's I'm telling you on or list. Because here's the thing. If the wolves play their best in a thunder play their best, who you taking Joe?

I'm probably taking an OKC. You told y'all told me it was going to be a gentleman sweeping this series and they down too old. So, I mean, I'm- But that ain't no KC. A-O-T-P. I think, if you just saying, if you just saying, if you just saying, I think you said, hey, we're gonna talk about them in a minute, but don't you sleep on Indiana now.

Yeah. Cause Indiana gonna push the pace, make a miss. They'll get it out the basket or they'll get it out the rim, but they pushing temple. Right. They're gonna make you, they're going to make you, they're gonna make you defend. Quick, they cutting, their backs,

they doing an unbelievable job. Jason Tatum in the first half, one for seven, two points. Jalen Brown in the second half, one for seven, three points, four turnovers. Now, your two best players, that's what they gave you. Yeah. They need way more contribution from them too. Like I say, man, I just think just,

they have to assert themselves into the game. You know, not waiting for these three point opportunities or these switches and mismatches. Man, sometimes you gotta go take it, bro. You gotta initiate yourself with this crashing the glass, getting easy layups, back doing, yeah, setting picks, things of that sort. Because they too talented, Argan Ocho.

They too talented. And like I said, they won, they a proven champion, they won it last year. This is just a test and a stepping stone into their legacy as far as how they want to be remembered. Right. As far as if they tell people to. If they trying to repeat, obviously they know they got to dig theyself out this deep hole,

which I think they can do. Mm-hmm. The thing I like to tell people all the time, Joe, I say there have been plenty of teams that's won one in a row. Right. Right. To be special, go repeat.

Ooh. Football, basketball, baseball, hockey, it doesn't matter, repeat. There were a lot of teams that won one in a row. Yeah. You gotta be locked in, bro. There's a reason why you have so many, have so few repeat champions. Go look at the sports.

Now, you know, I mean, way back when used to get a lot. I mean, I think the Islanders, I mean, back in the late seventies, eighties, they won four straight Stanley Cups. Basketball you get, I mean, think about it. You get the three Pete Lakers, you get the three piece Celtics, did it twice. Nobody else three Peter. Now the Celtics ran off eight straight, but the great, but the great spurs team, they never three-peded that big three Celtics.

They'd never three-peded. I mean, they, as a matter of fact, the Celtics and spurs never won back to back. It's hard to do. To keep that focus year after year after year. It's special. It's hard. You damn right. It's hard.

Cause everybody's gunning for you. Yeah. One slip up. Now it's, I think it's easier to, to, to, to repeat in series sports. Yeah. Then in football, because see in football, every game, every playoff game of the game, seven. Yeah.

You don't have to be the best team that you said that day. That's it. Yeah. See the norm of the time, the best team will normally in a series, the best is hard to hit for good game buzzer beater Right, right, right Hey, all I got to do a oh Joe. Yeah, I forced a fumble a kick the walk-off game winning field goal That's it. Yeah, my season over

Yeah, I agree, but I know them to be guns. They better start firing Yeah, Tatum and Brown, they better start playing better. Hey, but listen, what's tell, all you got, all they got to do is stop shooting threes. Hey, Joe, you just said it. They got a bag, huh? They got tools in the box. Get to your spot. Get to the hole.

Use your midi. Put the ball on the floor. Create space. Call for the ISO. Do, do something. Or just, or just watch the film of the two games. It's been a tale of two halves, man. Like you've been up 20 in both games.

You know what I'm saying? And in the third quarter, not the first half, cause you know the first half, you gotta throw that away, Joe, cause you know, because with that three ball, anything can happen. But you've been up by 20 in the second half. Yeah.

Midway through the third quarter, and they walk you down. Yeah, the past two games. I don't know how you let that happen, man, especially after the first one. You know, you think you'll be prepared, but they look shell shocked down the stretch, man. They look like they didn't know what to do or how to do it or get to their spots.

Like, it was a lot of indecisiveness that I wasn't used to seeing from the Celtics. So I expect them to watch the film and then get back to the drawing board as far as, you know, game three, Oc and Ocho. I expect them to be a totally different team. Meaning, I'm not saying Tatum and Brown probably won't shoot threes. They gonna shoot threes, but I expect for them to be attacking,

get into that basket, put the onus on the referees to make plays, call fouls. Mm. putting the onus on the referees to make plays called fouls. All season fans have asked what did the Knicks get for the five first round picks? They got Mikael Bridges because think about it, they gave up all those picks for him and I'm like damn, you give up those kind of picks for a guy like a Luca, like a KD, like a Shea, a Yonis, a Yoke, a Mikael Bridges. He had the game winning steal and then he had the game winning deflection. So I guess that's what you got for it.

Yeah, this is why you go get McHale Bridges, OG. Because you want them guys to pair and be able to guard and guard Tatum and Brown and take them to the break. Which they've in these past two games. Getting those two guys and Josh Hart, you know, they all take turns. By committee, defensively, they're doing a pretty good job, man. And they put they've left themselves in a chance to where, you know, lay down the stretch where they're able to win games.

Like when it doesn't even look that pretty, like they haven't even played a great brand of basketball by the way. You know what I mean? They still win these ugly games on the road. So it says a lot about the New York Knicks and Coach Tom Thibodeau, you know, and the schemes that he's been able to, you know, oppose on the Celtics within these first couple games. But that's the tips. I mean, you go back and look at when he coached the Bulls, they won ugly games.

They're not a team that's going to, you know, aesthetically everything is flowing and looks smooth and everything. It looks chaotic. But they find a way to win. They play tough, back, gritty basketball. And you're absolutely right. We need wing players. This is why they got McKell Bridges. We need somebody that can guard Tatum and Brown.

OG can guard and he got a big body. You can't run through it. McKell Bridges is long and lanky. Got great wingspan. Hey, he can deflect a lot of passes. He can contest a lot of shots. Now, and you still have Princess Atua. They still got Josh Hart.

So like you said, at most times they got three guys that can defend at a very, very high level. Yeah. Yes. And now you got Brunson. You got a guy like Brunson who's clutch. Last five minutes of the ball game, game within five points. Hey, I'm putting the ball in his hand. It's hard to find somebody better than Josh Hart, excuse me,

than Brunson. Yeah. It is. In a clutch situation. It is. Big Brody Brunson. He's shown and proven, you know, over the years, man, late in games, he can get to the cups and he gonna get you a foul or a bucket every time. Yeah. One of the other. Oh, FH. It's something about the lefty though, Joe. Why the mofo so crafty?

James Harden is like that. He's like that. All the left-handed man, that Herky, Manu Janobli, all that Herky jerky ass motion. Ain't Jalen Brown left-handed? Nah. Who? Nah. Jalen Brown. No? Nah. Who? Nah, Jalen. No?

Are you right handed? He should never put the ball in his left hand. No, absolutely not. He should not dribble left handed. I agree though, them lefties, I told you obviously they got an advantage from the jump. I don't know what it is, but he is so crafty and he turned into the biggest five man I ever seen in life

when he get in the paint. He go to pivot in and jump hook and I'm like, man. But he has been their heart and soul, bro, their team for the past couple of years and he will not let them lose. Nope. Ant-Man Everett was called out by his head coach last night speaking to reporters falling to defeat.

Chris Finch said, it starts with Ant. I thought he struggled. And you can just take kind of see the light go out a little bit for a while. But then Finch expanded on his thoughts, adding, what is there to talk about? You're the leader of the team. You got to come in and set the tone.

If your shot's not going in, you still have to carry that energy. If I've got to talk about guys having the right energy coming into over the second round, we're not on the same page. Ant Man responded saying, people are going to try to blame whatever, blame whoever. They can blame me, but we just didn't play good enough.

I like that. I like that. No, you. You the table setter, Ant. Ocho. I like that. You got to set the table. You got to come, I mean, who's... I like that. You gotta set the table. You gotta come out, I mean, that,

what was he like, 0 for, at one point in time, Ant-Man was like, 0 for 9. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You can't, you can't, he can't be that way. Right. Nah, cause he, hey look, he called out, he said he wanted to smoke.

He, yeah, he want that. He called the Warriors out, he said he wanted to play against the Warriors because Draymond talked trash. Well, you know what you're gonna get. You gotta step to the table, you gotta come out with that sense of urgency, bro. Let them dudes know that you here. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta come out force... You have to force it to start out, but you gotta put your mark and step on the game.

And I thought it took him too long to kind of get going. And, hey, man, go to stay tough, bro. They remind me a little bit of the Knicks as far as defensively, how they switch, keep guys in front and make you take tough shots. I know they're a little small down there, but listen, Draymond and them dudes down there. Butler.

Butler, they fighting, bro. They fighting. And they even got Buddy Hill, thinking he could play defense. Oh man they fighting, bro. They fighting. Yeah. And they even got Buddy Hill thinking he can play defense. Oh man, Buddy feeling good since they gave seven, ain't it? Listen. Yeah. They got Buddy.

Hey, Buddy sitting in the chair. I like, what you doing? Hey, whatever. You know that ain't your game. You know that stuff rubbed off, man. When you got them hard work. It does. It absolutely does.

It rubbed off on you in a way you probably didn't even know that you could do, but I'm worried about the Warriors because of Steph. Even if he do come back, okay, Ocho, with a half string injury, y'all know that it takes time. That thing ain't gonna linger for a minute. And I told you. Mm-hmm. That's what his game is predicated on.

Yeah. You see how I told you exactly what it was? I told you it was a great one. Oh wait, that's what his game is predicated on. Yeah. Yeah. You see how I told you exactly what it was? I told you it was a grade one. It was a grade one. Actually, and I said, he gonna miss a week, maybe two. He gonna miss this one. But I think Ant, and especially what Coach saying,

every coach can't come out and talk about your player like that. Every coach can't come out and say something like that because some of them don't respond to criticism that way very well And is a is the perfect example of a player that can take that Yeah, not only can he take that watch how you answer to it. Watch how you answer Huh? He better answer go down

He go answer to it now, you know, listen the cream always rise to the top always and that's the way that's the way Listen, the cream always rise to the top. Always. And that's a way, that's a way for a coach to say something and get his player not only motivated, not that he needs it, but just to keep just a reminder. Now everything starts with you. You said you wanted that smoke. This comes with it. This is a test.

Including me, including me being able to chastise you publicly to let you know, come on now Normally Oh Joe the coach wouldn't call out the best player. He would call out Bobby Bobby Mitchell used to say Paul Brown used to get on him to get Jim's attention. So you got to do a better job of holding on to the ball Well, I didn't from what Jim did But he called him out but he's talking to Jim because he couldn't talk to Jim. He couldn't say what he wanted to say to Jim. That's how Mike was with me. Mike was like, you got to do a better job at this. I wasn't the one that missed the block. I get it. I get it. Where he calls out Shannon, you know,

if he go call out Shannon, he go, I get it. Okay. I eat it. that's all me. That's all me. Yeah, but Your best player when you ask for something, yeah What you grab I tell you what yo don't ask for something you ain't gonna be a bother I spent all my money for that toy. You better play with that toy. That's what yeah Don't ask for it and don't ask for nothing else Thank you. Don't you don't you ask me as long as you... Damn! You know I'm only six, right? Oh, Joe, don't ask me nothing for as long as I live. Yeah. Hey, when it comes to professional athletes, you understand how sensitive players are in this era, but Ant-Man is one of the few. And it's only a handful where your coach can come out

and say the things he say because he knows, I know my player, I know how he is, I know how he's gonna respond to this. He's not gonna shut down. Most players, they shut down. They shut down when they hear something like that. They absolutely know. Nah, Ant ain't for me.

I mean, Joe, you know this. I mean, and I tell people don't wanna, here I say the greater the player, the bigger the ego. Yeah. The greater, listen to me, the greater the player, the greater the ego. And you have to walk that balance. And, you know, the way you talk to somebody else, I mean,

oh, you could talk, no, no, you ain't talking to Jordan like you talking to the 12th guy on the field. No, you not cursing at him, you not raising your voice at him. You're like, come on, Mike, come on, we gotta have that, that's what you're telling him. But you telling, but you telling BJ, damn, BJ, come on, bro.

Right, right, right, I totally. But I think, go ahead, but that's the really great coaches, they really understand what to say and who to say it to and how to say it. Because you can't coach everybody, you treat them all fair. Coach Davis, my coach in college, he used to tell us all the time,

I'm gonna treat y'all all fair, but I ain't gonna treat y'all the same. Right, right. All right, look, I piggyback what Ocho said. I think he right. I think Ant-El's the kind of guy that Coach Anu that he can kind of call out and say to, like, you know, hey, you didn't ask for that smoke, let's step up.

Let's step up to the right. Like, we're here now. And I look forward to him having a much, much better game, too. Obviously, you know, I picked Timberwolves in this series and I still think they got a chance, man. Obviously they got some work to do ahead of them, but I think they still got a great chance.

Yeah. I think the thing is like when Ant gets it going, not everybody else can relax and they stop making shots. When Ant's struggling, like damn. They dialed in on him, man. They ain't giving anything. He got loose in that second half, but for the most part, man, Jimmy Butler, Dre Mon, them all them dudes, bro,

they sitting down. Yeah, or GP the second. Yeah, yeah. He picking him up. Hey, look. You know, he got that extended pressure on him. He picking him up full. And, hey, look, like I always say, you want to just try to wear a guy down like Ant. You know, he's a special talent. We all know that.

And we can't give him nothing easy. That's what the Warriors are saying. So we're going to make everything tough. And he has no one understand that. So I'm sure, you know, he done watched the tape, watched film, and he going to get back game two, old show. He going to be a different Adam. Oh yeah.

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