Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Thunder ROLL Lakers in Game 1 + Pistons IN CONTROL of Cavs + NBA Ratings BOOMING + Jr Smith Gets TRAMPLED in New York

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

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Shea was relatively quiet. It's one of the first time that he scored under 20 points. 18.6 assists, two blocks. Austin Reeves was atrocious. He was 3 of 16, 0.05 from the three-point line. He had more turnovers than he had field goals made. And I thought that was really, and you know what?

It might not even made a difference, Joe. I mean, I don't think we could expect LeBron. James just be this efficient. I thought Roy played unbelievable game. DA got in foul trouble, so he really wasn't able to stay in for extended stretches, but he had a double, double, 10 points of level rebounds. You'd like to see that total go a little high. I thought Marcus Mark played okay.

He did a pretty good job on SGA. But with Austin Reeves giving you these numbers and the bench basically non-existence, you're not going to be able to be okay, see, because when their bitch comes in, they're going to be giving you max production. Joe, what is it about the thunder? Because we talked about it. You might be close. Three, four point, they got a three or four point lead.

And the next thing you know, you call a time match, you down 14. And we saw that tonight on several occasions. It's the pressure, man. It's the pressure that those guys bring. Not only at you offensively, Uncle Ocho, but defensively, bro. They fuel off them turnovers that they create. Look, we know OKC can score with the best of them. But, man, listen, let me tell you something.

They're trying to lock you down defensively, bro. They try to lock you down defensively. Hey, and I'm with you, if AR can't give a better effort than that, now we know he, you know, basketball is a rhythm and time and game, fellas. And he has been out for an extended period of time, at least a month. So, you know, when he first came back, he may have been playing out for drilling. But, you know, it takes a while, bro, for you to gang their rhythm back. But I think that was probably the biggest difference.

Like you say, I don't know if it would have helped. And I do think Bron can play like this the whole series. I think he can be efficient like this. I don't know if it was just me, but the game seemed real easy for him tonight. Well, look, Lou Dors, I mean, Lou Dors is a tremendous defender, but at 6364, he's not going to cause LeBron any problems. LeBron is going to be able to get down on the block

and be able to get whatever shot he wants. You know, he got off to that great start. I think he had 10 points in the first quarter. Excuse me, got another six in the second. Then he was relatively quiet in the third quarter and hit a couple of shots in the fourth. But that's not enough. like I said, I thought

I thought DA was playing really well, but he got in foul trouble. Because I think he's a better offensive player than Jackson Hayes. Jackson Hayes is a better defender than he is. You'd like to be able to combine those guys and help create one player, but unfortunately you can't do that.

But I think you just, I think this Oklahoma City team, Jay Mitchell, he just comes in and just, I mean, right before the half, just think about it. He ain't made a three-pointed all night. and then with four seconds left in a half, he gets an A.m.

Yeah. And that is, this is who, this is who they are. And like you said, Joe, I don't know, even if LeBron continued to play

at this efficient level. And Rui keeps shooting the ball like he's shooting the ball. I still don't know if that is enough to overcome them because they're bench. You're basically getting nothing. And with Austin Reeves coming back, what has done is kick Luke Kinnard out of his. Well, I think for the Lakers, bro, they got the turnovers.

I mean, you get six turnovers between Smart and Reeves, and these are the guys who are handling the rock. I didn't think neither one of them played well offensively. Now, Mark is smart. You know, his game is really not predicated on what he's going to give you offensively. I think what he gives you offensively is great. That's a bonus.

But, I mean, hell, he's done a hell of a job on Shea. Okay, Ocho. Now, he held him to 18 points. Think about that. When was the last time he broke Willis? record of 120 plus games or at least 20 points. And now he held him under 18. So kudos to him for that.

But, you know, they had 17 turnovers. Marcus Martin only had two, but Austin Reeve, you got three made field goals. You got four turnovers. He just looked out of sorts. He just looked out of sorts. I agree. I agree. What you like, Ocho?

What did you think about the game that you watch? I mean, obviously, what I did think is being that OKC was off so long, Uncun, Joe, I'm thinking before the game, even started. If the Lakers are going to get a game, this would be the one. Yeah. This would be the game they do get because I think maybe, maybe the thunder come out, maybe a little rusty. Maybe they're not going to be in rhythm and the Lakers have a chance. LeBron playing very efficient. And the thing is, Joe, you said it, that pressure, that goddamn defense. Not only are they having their way offensively, but here, they're getting points

defensively too, you know, making you mess up, you know, getting points in transition because of defense that they are playing and god damn austin rees even even even if he did play well tonight i don't think it would have been enough i don't think it would have been enough and not only that when god damn okayc goes to their bench they still getting production from the bench they still get production no matter what the no matter what the star in five do man the leaguer the leagas i hate saying they one-dimensional but yep they damn show is one-dimensional well i mean you playing against the defending champs fellas hey look i know i know i know mark is smart hell, Shade of 18 points, but he wasn't out there forcing that, hell, he shot 53% from the field.

It wasn't like, I ain't going to say he just shut him down. Now, I do think the Lakers are using that defensive strategy that they use against Kevin Durant. Yeah, yeah, trap him a lot, make him get a ball up. Yeah, we know Hardinstein can play, make. We know Chick pretty good. We know Lou Dork can make shots. But hell, you're going to have to live with them guys being you, man, versus, you know, versus Shea going for 35.

You feel me? So I thought Shade was actually great. He wasn't forcing anything. He just kind of took what the defense gave him. But if I would have told you, Shea was going to have 18 points and only going to get to the free throw line, shoot three free throws.

You're like, man, I really like the Lakers. Because that's what they did. Think about what OKC normally shoot from the free throw line. They're normally in the 20s. They shot 12 free throws. Yeah. Hey, you see in that first half? Yeah.

Hey, you see in that first half? You know, She, I'm not going to call the foul baiting. We see Shea was flared in a little bit on some of the shots down in. They're not, they go on the floor alone. They let them play. Hey, I'm happy with that too because you can't call all that shit, man. You know, some of them, some of them main files. You know, he flailing trying to, you know, trying to get to the line.

But that's what the great scores in this game do, you know. Hey, but for me, man, you know, kind of like I've been stressing over last season all way through this season, take hungry. If he plays at this level, Anka-Ocho, this is why they'll be hard to be, bro. I mean, he can do a little bit of everything, shot blocking, rebound, and scoring, playmaking. And at his size, he may not block everything, but he'll alter some shots too. I just think from top to bottom, they're so complete as a team, and the Lakers got to play so damn perfect. just to stay in the damn game.

I'm like, man. Yep, you're absolutely right. And the thing is that when guys get broken down on defense, now all of a sudden the guy lays it up, okay, DA comes to challenge the shot, that goes unfettered to the basket. So now you get an easy putback or you get Chet dunking the arm over.

And so now, okay, you get broken down on defense. Guys rotate. Now you're getting guys kicked for wide open. Okay, you come to trap, a chat at the top. Well, you're in the middle of court. You see his eyes getting big like, God. Oh, y'all doing this? Y'all really going to do this to me?

Ah. And a check was the beneficiary of a lot of those passes from Shay from him getting double, too. Yes. I don't know, man. O.K.C. just got too much. It's just going to be way too hard for the Lakers. I honestly think to win a game. Damn, Joe.

I do. I agree. Yeah, I think that if they, if it ain't go, I don't, I don't think it goes past five. It might not go five. Because think about this, you held Shay to 18. Right. He only shot three free throws. He had seven turnovers. And you lose by 18. Yeah. With no J. No. Yeah. Let's see. LeBron James is 12 of 17. Three of six from the free throw line. He only shot one free throw. He missed that because he had an A and one. Four rebounds. I don't like the four rebounds because he got three of those in the four quarter. Yep, yep.

I was saying that. Because there was a long time. He went almost three, almost three full quarters and didn't have a rebound. Yeah, I agree. Right. Which is very disappointing. Hey, but when you think about it,

I know you like how he came out, how he started the game. Oh, oh, he was super aggressive. Super. I loved it. I'm like, okay, this is my life. Yeah, he had 10. I can. I can live with this.

I can live with this. But if Austin Reed, you know what, this was the game for us to win. All Austin Reed had to do is play like he'd be playing in the regular Civa. That 23 points that he gave us, that might have been enough to get us over the top. With LeBron playing the way he played, with Ruy knocking down threes,

come on. I mean, you've got to be able to guard somebody. If Marcus Marr, I mean, Mitchell. So, I mean, what are you going to do? If you can't guard Mitchell, Mitchell Cook. Hey, they rhythm, in time and we can't take that for granted man because that's all it is for a r you know if this was regular season here he'll be splick out out there you know what i'm saying he don't

be a he'd be getting to it but i just seen a lot of miscues just little small indecisions that he was making that was kind of costing them especially them turnovers they was crucial some of them turner yeah they were crucial and he forcing up threes joe he tried i mean those three don't I mean, you try, I mean, just because they hit a thrill on the other end, that don't mean you try to force up a 28-footer to get it back. And that's kind of how they've been playing. He's been playing like that all season is just, you know, during the regular season, hell, he was making them.

He was in rhythm. He wasn't dealing with nothing. Hey, you see he got banged up tonight when they hit him in that, uh, they hit him in their rip. Yeah. Hey. Hey, so, I mean, hey, uh, uh, uh, uh, I'm more so for onk. This is not considered a fail season,

even though they made it this far with Luke and Austin Rees being out, you know, the back half of the season, right? No, I mean, but no, it's not. But, you know, at the end of the day, whenever you got LeBron James on your team, the expectations are slip through the roof. I mean, the Lakers wore 15 and a half point underdog in game one. It is the biggest underdog spread he's faced in any game in his 23-year career.

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He was never this big of an underdog. That just lets you know what he's up, what this team is up against. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, shoot. I mean, and I think you can,

we can agree to Joe. I think is that if they were to repeat, I mean, we got to, now we got to start looking at, okay, where are we putting this Thunder team?

Against all, some of the, some of the greatest team ever. They're going to be. because they won, what, 64, 65 games last year. They had another 62, 62 wins, a 62, 63 win season this year. They're going to have the back-to-back,

they got the raining, and they're about to have a back-to-back MVP, regular season MVP. They win it, they're going to have a finals MVP back-to-back. At some point in time, we're going to have to start looking at them okay. We know the 80s, Lakers, we know the 80s Celtics,

the late 80s, early 90 Pistons. We're going to have to start looking at them the historical term. I think it's going to depend on how they finish, meaning like, are they going to sweep through every round and get to the finals and sweep through the damn finals? If that's the case, Uncle Ocho, now we really got, we really got to have a real discussion.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Because they swept through the first round. Obviously, you know, this is one game, first game, but I think we all pretty think they're going to beat the Lakers unless Bronkin go for one of them 50-point games. games on but well no he no no no no he he's gonna need by two or three of them yeah one fidget point game was only gonna get you one victory you still need three more so he's gonna

have to he's gonna have to have a 2018 season Joe where he average 34 8 and 8 and 8 he had 8 40 games he's gonna have to have a series like he had against Toronto a series like he had against the he but he capable though like I thought tonight with him having 10 of the first 16 points. I said, oh, shit, bro, I'm probably going to get at least 40 tonight. With 40 points, you know, that, that would have kept you in the game. Now, I wouldn't anticipate Austin Reed's playing like this offensively, you know, him and Mark is smart not making shots for real. But, man, that'll give you a chance, give you a fighting chance. The problem is, Joe, as you get older, you just can't sustain it. You see, man, after like a couple

of trips and that pace picks up, you see how he walks up to court? You see how he walks. You see highest chest be up and down? You can't sustain me. Yeah, I mean, checking it about. I mean, the mind willing, but the body just ain't able. I know, man. I know. I know.

I know. It's tough. I just figured with them having a few days of rest coming off their series, I thought this would have been a great game for him. Obviously, he was super efficient, but probably go for one of them 40-point games, man. Because if I'm him, I'm thinking, yeah, I want to get some of these other guys involved and hopefully somebody can have a breakout game and I can match him. on our squad, but the rate he was going to start the game,

it just looked so easy to me. I'm like, hold on. Damn, I know O'KC is a pretty damn good defensive team, Ogden Ojo, but he was making, man. In matter of fact. Because Jay Will, J. Dub is a little taller. Yeah. So he might balk, but Lou Dort is not tall enough.

Lou Dort and Houston wasn't tall enough, and he ain't gross since he got the OKC, so he still ain't big enough. I mean, the way LeRont made it look at, at the beginning, Joe, you know, and I didn't have them to win the series. I said maybe they would get a game, maybe two, because Oklahoma has too much to deal with offensively and defensively.

I said maybe it got to be tonight's game because it's not to have so many days off. It got to be tonight's game. Yeah. And man, man, and boys ain't miss a beat. They did, man. I mean, because think about it, they led a large part of the first quarter. Yeah, they did.

And then what you call them, and then what you call them hit him with a run. And now you go in, you down at the end of the first. And so this is what they do to you. The end of each quarter, they go on a little spurt. So now of a sudden, a game that was close that was tied, you're down four. Okay, you're back and forth. You back and forth. They go on another spur to end the first, the second quarter.

Now you look up and you fight yourself down like, damn. We down eight. You play good all way through the third. quarter, they go on another spurt. You look back up and start the fourth. We down 14 damn points. And we play in pretty good. That's the crazy part.

And when you look at it, the Lakers are not built to come from behind. They're not. Once they get down, it's like, damn, they get down by 10 or 12 points. I'll be thinking the game over with. They just don't have enough firepower. I wouldn't necessarily say five power. They just can't get stops. They can't get multiple stops against this OKC.

team. That's the problem, Joe, is that they don't have the defenders that you can turn up the intensity and get, I mean, LeBron played the passing lane and got to steal, you know, got to steal. But they didn't get a whole lot of runouts. And you got guys that can handle the ball. So it's not like a Houston where guys, you see when they was down game three and they got six points in the final 30 seconds because they don't have guys that can handle the ball. But in a situation, in a situation like what they were dealing with. with the night, shake and handle the ball. They got ball handles in that situation.

So it's just going to be tough. I mean, they got to basically, they got to go into the third, the fourth quarter, up a couple of points, and then get it to clutch situation. The last two minutes,

they need to, they still need to be up five points. In the last two minutes? Yeah. Hey. Because, look, they just don't, they just don't have a,

of Jared Vanderbilt suffered a full dislocation of his right pink finger. Per Shams, Lakers lose game one, but Vando tonight, no timetable is set for a possibility of his return. Man, the next game. Huh? Man, if he don't wrap that thing up right here

next to that finger, man, and go play some ball? And plus, this is his right hand. He's not a shooting. And maybe that would a help. Yeah, he's good. He's shooting, Joe. Yeah. Oh, Joe.

He ain't played for six minutes. It was like he out there raising some hell now. Exactly. So how much are they going to miss it? Right, right. Yeah, man, you know, take a tape, a joke, man, tape them two together

right there, man, you're going to be just fine. See, the thing is, though, in basketball, even when you, even when you tape them, they're going to get hit because that's just part of the game, you know, trying to rebound, grab the ball, using your hands for defense. It's just so much. So I know it's going to linger, but here,

he ain't an offensive guy, man. He'll bite it. that they need, their energy and effort. That's what they need for me. Yes. So I'm sure he'll be playing next game. I can't see him sitting up. Well, you know, that's what we do,

Ocho, we take the finger together. And people don't realize how hard is to catch your ball when you can't spread your fingers. Yeah. Because you used to being able to do this and now all of a sudden you're doing that. Yeah.

And just that little bit throws it off. But I played with a thumb guard because I had, you know, I would dislocate or dislocated my thumb one time. So I played with a thumb Yeah. And you, hey, you never know how I'm pouring that thumb, you know, boy, until you hurt that, my boy, please.

Yeah, until you can't use it. Oh, you ain't got to tell me nothing. Try brushing you, try doing anything without the thumb. Your thumb be hurt. Hey, hey. You try to brush your teeth like this here? Hey, you tried to, you tried to shower with your four fingers. They, they thumb and that damn big toe, boy.

Hey. Hell, yeah. But the Lakers lose, even though the OKC did not play their best. game, they still find a way to win by 18 points, lets you know just how talented, how good this team is. When you can play subs by your standard, subpart basketball and still win by damn near 20? You're damn good.

Yeah. You legit. Yeah. You legit. I agree. The boys. SGA had 18 points, which is the first time he scored under 20 this season. The last time SGA scored under 20 points was in game three

against the Denver in the 2025 play. Hey. So damn, there a whole year. He had seven damn turnovers too. Hey, I'm telling you, that defense that they play, bro, it confuses you, man. Yeah, hey, we, you look at statistically, you look at Kevin Durant's turnovers. Hell, how many he had one? He had eight, eight, nine damn turner.

Yeah, nine, I think. Yeah, because it scores, bro. The last thing you really want to do is get up off that damn ball. You know, you got, hey, guys who like, to score the ball, bro. They're going to hold on to it as long as possible to see. Are you going to continue to bring this trap? And I thought they confused Shea a few times, obviously because he had seven

turnovers. I think the Lakers got a good strategy defensively, Uncle Ocho. They just got to find a way, bro, to string some stops together so they can stay close. They can't, once they get down by 10 or 14, it's a route. It's a round. And you got the offense to be able to crawl back into the game. And the problem that they have is that they turned the ball over Joe and they take some ill-advised shots at times. I'm looking like, Austin, why would you take that shot?

I'm like, and then I'm looking at like Rui, I'm like, and I thought Rui played okay. Yeah, he did. I really did. I thought he made some big-time plays. But I'm like, that's not the shot that we need right now. out. Yeah, you know what, you know what. Because all you're going to do, they already got the momentum. And I guess, I guess sometimes Joe, you, you know, you want to quail some of that momentum. So you want to come right

back at them. You hit him right away. But the problem is if you miss, now they're right back at you and what was 10, 9, 12, and then this thing, you know, that, that crowd started going crazy and they never was really able to overcome that. Go ahead, Ocho. Would you want to say? I was going to say it all come down in a shot selection, you know, when you're in a situation like that. You know, being confident and being able to get to your spot, instead of just taking LFIA's shot because they hit

one. Now you try to go down and get one, but if, let's not get it from three. I mean, put the ball on the flow. Take somebody to the hole. To try to get yourself back into the floor of the game or get yourself back in rhythm instead of just shooting them goddamn shots up like that. Hey, hey, shots come far few in between against

this OKC team. So when guys see a crease or an opportunity Arcan Ocho, yeah, they're trying to get one off. Hey, hey, Hey, them boys sitting down, man. They guard and they got great, they got great guys who play individual defense, but they are great defensively. They are a great team defensively.

So it's going to be tough. I think they're going to always make it tough on Reeves and smart. They got to find ways to continue to be effective. Obviously, we know smart will, but they got to find a way to get Austin Reeves into a rhythm, bro. A-s-s-Sail. And DA is going to have to stay in the game. He's going to have to just keep his hands up and not foul because it really hurt because I thought he was playing really good.

He was hitting a turnaround jumper. He's doing great on the glass. He was challenging shots. But when he goes out, now that's a big body that you don't have in the game. And at least you can give him the ball. He'll face up. He can put the, you know, he can shoot the little six to eight footer. That's not, that's not Jackson Hayes game.

Jackson Hayes is the lob put back guy. And if he's not getting those. have some turnovers, some ill-advised turnovers tonight. But look, it's one game. I don't, I'm not sure they can, I'm not so sure it's going to be, it might be much worse. What is that?

Thursday? But we go. Hey, which, which game you're going to? You're not, you're not going to submit yourself that type of. Game three. No, I'm going to game four next Monday. Okay. So that's like the game they might get swept it.

That might be. Damn. And the thing, hey, Ocho, man. Yes, how? Every time I've seen the Lakers play, O'KC, they lost. Hmm. Hey, how about you just don't go?

I thought about it. Yeah, just don't go. You just went. When LeBron, when LeBron, when LeBron broke the score record, yeah. They played O'KC. They lost. Damn.

I was at that game. Oh, yeah. He had like 30. I think he had like 36, 38. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He sent me that ball. Hey, but you just went to a game and they won?

Yeah, but not when they play O KC? Hey, it's two teams when I watch them. Hey, Memphis. They beat hell out Memphis, be it playoffs, be it regular season. Right. They beat the Hawks. I saw him beat the Brits off the Hawks too. Who?

O'Ks. Lakers. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I haven't seen them have one of those like, I was almost going to go to the game they played. There was a Saturday game and they played the Warriors.

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a drought that dated back to the 2007 Eastern Conference Finals. Well, we know LeBron was a part of that. Game 2 is Thursday night. in Detroit. Donovan Mitchell scored 23 points, ending his NBA record streak of scoring 30 plus points and nine straight series openers. Jared Allen was limited to two points and three rebounds coming off a 22 and 19 performance in an elimination game against Toronto. I thought that was really the difference in the ball game. Yeah. Is that he really didn't give him anything.

Joe, I need you to help me out. What is it were hard in these turnovers? Man. Yeah. Oh, you, he got 43 in eight games. He got 43 turnovers in eight games, Joe. What he had seven in night, huh? Hey, listen, do y'all see the pressure that them boys putting on him?

Everybody know now, you know what it is, Uncle Ocho. They pick his ass up full court. They wear him down, bro. That's what they do. And you know Detroit, look, his greatest K is offensively, he's one of them guys who pick up full court. You look at Ammon Thompson. he a suitor thompson he's he he's a guy who pick up full court their youth their youth comes in the

player hell how old is james 30 you got to be like 34 35 35 35 35 36 but yeah them young hey man them young boys picking up full court making them work he 30 they're making them work they're making them work so you know hey hey they got making Donald Mitchell work too yeah yeah yeah because hey look at one point neither one of them was really playing well I think they was able to get back in the game here. They tied the game in the fourth quarter, and then Detroit took off on another run. But I just, I don't know what it is about Cleveland, man.

I mean, J. I mean, Allen coming off that huge game, and then how he can come out here and get you there? Two and three. Come on, bro. That's it. Did he get hurt? Because he only played 18 minutes, but damn.

And looking at his numbers, that was 18 more than he should have played. Right. I think what happened Struz came off the bench and he caught on, he caught hot. He called fire.

Maybe they were playing Mobley at the five a lot, but I think, you know, Struz came in, gave him great energy. Strode did too. Cleveland,

they got enough to win. They just can't get consistency from, from certain guys. The big. Yeah, they can't get, you need your bigs. Well, if you really think about it,

you need your bigs, them, them bigs, Mobley and Allen, you need them, consistently be dominant, Uncle Ojo. You need them too, bro. They should be with those two guys together should give you somewhere somewhere between 30 points and 20 to 28 rebounds a game between the two of them.

Yeah. You got two seven footers. Yeah. They should own the glass. They got 12 rebounds between the two of them. I agree. They got 16 points between the two of them. That's not enough.

And considering they only play with one big, they played them with Duren. So that means Tobias or somebody else got to take Mowgli. Yeah. Mowgli. With Tobias Harris on you? You're simple. Hey.

Hey, it's a little. But hold on. Only one of them is an offensive presence though, Unk. Jared Allen more of a defensive presence. So having, having me, between the two of them, having him 30 I mean, Allen might give you a game like that,

what, every so often? He should be, Joe, even I'm not counting on him because I'm not running play for him. But I don't think it's asking an awful lot for him to give us 12 points tonight.

Off the glass? Mostly to give us 18. I don't think that's too much. It's not. And when you look at it, Detroit didn't even really play great. You know, and for them to win like this.

Like I said, I think we'll like four, five minutes left Unka and Ocho. It was a tight game. I seen Hardin at the line shoot two free throws, but I don't know, man. You know, Cleveland got to find some consistency somewhere just to get a game. It's going to be tough to beat these boys because they've been tried and tested in their first round, you know, sometime they'll wake you up. Tonight with James Hardens, 181st playoff game of his career. It was the 45th playoff game that he's had as many or more turnovers than field goals,

which is exactly 25% of his career postseason games. He's turned the ball over as many or more times than he's had many field goals. Yeah. Man, they keep track all that. Absolutely. Hey, hey, he got a tone that down. I'm saying he has a tone that down because the turnovers that he had, Bro, they led to points.

They led to points. And you're right. He has a final way to cut that down to about two, two, maybe three. You know, in order for them to even stay in the game in this series, bro, them turnovers, man, these young teams going to fuel off that. Yeah, yeah. But you know what I know. But here, the thing that he's running into, Joe, and correct me if I'm wrong.

See, when he's in Houston, he had to do a lot more. Bro, you would have a better team now. Even when you were the clippers, you were the better team. You don't, you shouldn't have to think that I have to do more because you have more help. He's still thinking he's in Houston where he doesn't have the help that he has now on Cleveland, that he has with the clippers, that he had with, uh, uh, sixers or he had with, let that see. Yeah. 45 of his 181 games in the postseason, he's had as many turnovers or more.

that made buckets. Yeah. That is James Hardin. One of the greatest scores this game has ever seen. Joe, we were having conversations just five to six years ago. Who's a better one-on-one score? James Hardin, Michael Jordan, or Kobe Bryant. We were having serious discussions, not just us, everybody was.

Yeah. Because we watched James Harden go, 25, 30 straight games are giving you 30. He was the first guy with a 60 point triple double. We watched him just go crazy. And we like, have we ever seen, I'm talking about ISO. Have we ever seen anybody that's a better ISO score

than James Harden? Maybe not, bro. Not. But we get him in the playoffs. We saw him against the, the Warriors. I think he got the record. I think he got four.

Turnovers in a game, Joe. How many playoff games did he have double-digit turnovers? I think he got like five or six, which is crazy. And I understand he's going to have a high usage rate. He's led to league in usage. He has the ball in his hands. But when you turn the ball over that much, it's going to be hard to win.

And you know what's crazy is James is a great off ball. He can play off Donovan Mitchell. He can play off the ball. It ain't like he. He can't catch and shoot, Uncle Ocho. He can catch and shoot with some of the best of them. But the problem is that what you have is, what's a guy like that gives the ball up,

I'm faceguarding, bro. Y'all are playing four-on-four. So he understands that's going to keep him, he ain't going to be engaged in the game if he just continue to play off of Donovan and Mobley and Allen. So he, you know, certain situations, certain situations, he kind of force it. You know what I mean?

So I think he has to find a happy, medium in that and they got to find ways the man take some of that pressure off of them getting some easy bastards because twice in the career he'd be he'd be forcing he'd be forcing some stuff out there time from time to time but here's the thing though Joe and it's really hard and I think you got to give LeBron some credit when you used to having the ball James Hardin has had the ball in his hand for a decade and now you ask him to give it up and play off of it's harder than you think it's like being a number one receiver and all of a sudden don't you say we'll go to number two right go to number three what you mean hold on what you

mean that ain't the first read oh whoa whoa whoa I'm used to hear an egg I'm used to you tag something yeah I'm here to you say Z out mm-hmm whoa whoa hold up now you said X dig Y shallow Z out that means I'm like I'm third right so that be you if Ocho is available so that means if he's available I ain't gonna get I ain't getting the ball. And but if he's not available and here come to why, I still ain't getting the, whoa, hold on time out, man. It gets, people don't understand. And people are, oh, it'll be eaten. No, it's not. Right. When you've been the man and all of a sudden you're not the man. Hey. Because guess what, Ocho? All they still see is hard on the back of that jersey. They see 13

or whatever number he is and they expect you to do exactly what you're doing, even though you don't have this ball in your head to be able to do it. Right. How do you expect me to get you 15 hundred yards and I'm catching 50 passes down for my night? The hell? Hey, they got to take they, see, taking the ball out of his hand,

it's going to take his usage rate down. Which is going to take his scoring down. And then everybody's going to be like, oh, damn, well, this ain't the same James he used to be. Well, of course he's not. He's playing on a much better team. Now he's probably just giving you 19, 20 points a game versus giving you 27, 28.

But damn, your usage rate ain't the same, bro. We don't need that. But guess what, Joe? You give me 45, 50 with seven turnovers. I'm overlooking that hot. What turnover? I ain't seen no turnovers. Now, Joe, you give me 19 points

and you got seven turnovers. I'm looking at your stuff with a microscope. Yeah. So for so long, he put up those goddied numbers. Man, you ain't even thinking about no turnovers. It's kind of like Luca. Luca has a high turnover ratio. But he's so proficient at scoring the basketball,

man, damn, I don't damn them turnovers. Right. And you don't really think about them until they late in the ball game or they cost you a game. And then you're like, well, damn, Luca had this many turnovers. But you wouldn't say anything when he had dropped 45 at that point.

And so I think that it's hard for Jay. It's hard to reinvent yourself. When you when you've been this way one time Basically since he left okay see he's been the guy Yeah He's been the guy and he's used his all his offense has been his defense Okay, Ocho because he could outscore anybody he's played against But but now

You know with that toning down a little bit Yeah man, hey you got a sacrifice a little bit You know you say you want to win your numbers may not look as gaudy as you will want them to You know what I'm saying? man. So, no, but that's the sacrifice that comes on with it. You got to be willing to, you have to be willing to give up something. Yeah.

And, you know, KD going to OKC, I'm excuse me, going to warriors. Even Steph, Steph sacrificed his game. Katie sacrificed some of his game. Clayton, all of a sudden, he went from the second option to the third option. Yeah. But in order to win, if I'm trying to win a championship, if my goal, because everybody says they want to win a championship, But a lot of times, Joe, they want to win a championship

with their way. I want to win this championship, but I still need to get my 32. I ain't trying to get 24 in the championship because y'all ain't going to do the same. And you know what? And you know what, Uncle Joe, that add even more pressure. Not only is it the playoffs, right? Yeah.

Then we're taking the ball out your hand. Then you got the, now you're worried about turning the ball over. And then on top of that, you got to be efficient because you ain't got the ball being able to shoot like you want to like you did before. That's correct. Yeah. Hey, look. But he's aggressive. I mean, think about it.

He went to the free throw line nine times. Donald Mitchell only went to the free throw line twice. Shot two free throw. Oh, you know, can't nobody seek out contact better than James Hardin. You watch the game. I'm talking about he uses your aggression to his advantage. I'm talking about every time. You make a mistake on defense, okay, Ocho, he going to make your ass pay.

He's going to the line. You come out there with one in the wild ass. clothes out trying to stop me. Yeah, I'm going right by you. We touch shoulders and shoulder. I'm coming up through like this. Yes. So.

Hey, don't be reaching out when he out there like this here because all he going to do is Yeah, he has mastered craftiness. He's super crafty. Yeah, he's a lefty. He already got an advantage. We know how lefties are any damn way. We feel like they got the advantage. All of them.

I had never seen one that wasn't crafty and scored the basketball. So I think James got to figure. get out. Hey, I got a question. Do you think he can, do you think he still got it in the month to give you a game where he go for 40? Yeah, he can. Yeah, I believe he could. I still believe he having it. Yeah. I think he can give you a game like that. He could he could he can rewind the hands of time. We saw it in Philly when he was there in Philly gave you that 50 point game I think of what game six game five game six. We've seen him have a monster have monster game. What's his highest

output game with the Clippers? I wonder, it's going to be hard to do that against this Detroit team, though. Yeah, yeah. Because they got, I mean, because you got Cade or you got Thompson on him. And both of those guys are elite defenders.

Yeah, man. And they ain't giving up nothing easy, neither. And I'm talking about, it's so physical out there just to run a pick and roll, so let alone trying to score. 20 points. I don't know if he can give you 40 in this series.

It'll be tough. He'll have to be hot as fish grease, boy, I'm talking about. Whoa, whoa, whoa, what I'm talking about? What I'm talking about? I thought you say could he give you 40. I thought you're talking about like any point in time, but you're talking about this series? Yeah, hell, hell, that's what I'm talking about.

He's going to need one in this series. Oh. Hey, Lee, he can summers it up once, especially if him shot star falling early. He definitely could summers it up once. But the thing is, you know, I look at Paulo and how Paulo gave you 45, when Apollo was doing it in a A,

he was getting to the middy was going, his three ball was going. I mean, he got like three and ones back to back to back. And then they play up off him, and now they drop off him, and now he pull up with the three. He just had one of those, he's just having one of those out of bodies.

I don't, who we. I think he can give you 30. I think he can give you a game where you get 30 and 10. I think that's possible. But you know, what I see is James Harden Footspeed, it ain't fast as these guys for the Pistons, man. You know, like he crafted enough to get by you and get a foul. But if you're telling me he can go 12 or 16 or something like that, that's going to be tough, man.

That's going to be tough. I don't know about that. It's going to be tough. His most, his highest sporting game at the Clippers is 32. 30. You got 33 and a 32, and one of those was an overtime game. With the Clippers, that was it. That's the highest he ever scored with the Clippers?

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. But he did have a 50-point playoff game against in Philly, right? Yeah, he did. Okay. Yeah, he had like 245, 244. And that was against Boston. Remember he rewinded the hands of the time back against Boston?

Hey, everybody at that, oh, James, James, and then he came out there that game seven and gave you like eight more. Hey, hey, you're talking about Brun, do a lot of walking. checking James out too now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he'd be out there chilling. You know, see, here's the thing. When you know the play ain't for you,

you just kind of just, you know, you're just walking around. You're just out there here. I notice that a lot. I notice that a lot. Because when the play for you, hell, you're in another gear. When it ain't for you,

Ocho, you get me that false ass. Ocho, how do we do when the rock, when the rock, they call our number? We sprint out to hunt a lot of Ocho. Hey, man. Sprint. I'm dead to get the delay a game. playing for me. I'm like third of the progression.

I'm down there getting the delay of game. Get to the line. They're like, hey, come on. Hey, you, are you getting the ball? You give everything away. And you all hype and happy. Hey, uncle, you get into the line, you know, restrap your glove. Hey, the hell, the man guarding you, he know the damn play for you. Damn, Sharpe. Or he knows, he knows, he knows coming. I think the thing plus Joe, or no, Joe, I think the thing with Bron,

Braun be so hyped early, especially if he get a basket and the next thing you know he gets a steal or in transition he laid up, blah. You expect, I get your practice. Look at game three. You see I ain't starting out?

Over and down, up and down. Then all of a sudden, you got a, hey, you got a pace. But it's hard. It's hard. Because people don't realize, like, when you run it, when you run it around, you don't breathe.

Yeah. You're like, people like, thank you to me. Yeah, nah, yeah, nah. Ain't no, they don't breathe the going on. But he's got to do a better job, though, Joe. He's just got to do a better job taking her to basketball, and their bigs got to do a better job than what they get.

Hey, you, come on, man. I can't get no damn 16 points and 12 rebounds from my two bigs. I got two seven-footers. They got one. I know, man. Cleveland got to do better. I mean, this is, I mean, this carbon copy. We've even talking about them.

You know, being consistent, being big. I mean, I think Mobley got the talent, Ocho, to where hell, he can get you 22 to 25 a night. I think that should be a given, bro. Considering the talent that this kid got, he's just not aggressive a lot of the time. You know what I mean? It's kind of like he defers a lot to Donovan and James Harden,

and you don't need to, bro. He got to be aggressive. He has to be one. one of the guys. He got to feel like he is the guy. Yes. Yeah. And it's just hard, Joe, when you're a young player and you've got veteran players, James has been an all-star, he's an all-N-B-A, he's an MVP,

Donald has been an all-star and an all-N-B-A selection. It's just hard for a young player to say, you know what, hey, it's my time now. Hey, she, they got to insert themselves, especially when the two veteran players, not shooting well, they're not efficient. Shoot, you take the lead. Well, maybe you're not allowed to do that. No, you can. It just depends on your demeanor.

He just doesn't, he just doesn't have that type of game, and it's just not his mindset. You know, it's like he'll, he a great piece to a team, and he occasionally, you know, had these monster games. But when you look at him and you watch him play, you're like, I mean, here, look at tonight, bro. He was the highest plus minus. He was a minus damn 18 tonight.

Like, you can't have that from your big. You know, not one of the guys who you're relying on, not, you know, for scoring and defense. Like, he's a guy who you can go to. Yeah, oh, he scored. In the last series, they went to him at the end of the game. You know what I mean? It ain't like.

Yeah, in game six, the overtime to get the overtime. Yeah, they went to him. And, you know, he made a strong move, scored with the left hand. I just feel like he has to assert himself a little more. I agree. I agree, Joe. I think the thing is that this joker here, man, I'm like, bro, you two, I don't know.

I don't know what it is about Donald Mitchell's game is that, and like I said, it's one game. Let's see how it plays out. But we've kind of seen this movie, man. I don't know what it is about, I don't know what it is about him. But it's, look, Joe, when you really think about it, it ain't been a whole lot of small, I don't know. I talked Donald's six three. Yeah, about six three. Yeah.

They've only been, if you really look at it, they've been really two guys that have been six four under that lead their team to championships. That's D-Wade, that's Steph Curry. Yeah. All the other have been big-ass guards. Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Michael Joy. Guard let and Isaiah Thomas.

Now I take that back, free, Isaiah. So think about the end of the history of the game where you getting a guard that's leading your team. to a championship. Hey. It's only been done by three in the 80 year history. Well, Donovan's comparison. Donovan.

Donovan, six two. Yeah. Six two. That's it? He played big, though, bro. Yeah, oh, he got bunnies. He got long-ass arms. I don't know if y'all really pay attention,

but to basketball players, when you short like that, and, like, Donovan, okay, if he's six, two, six-three, he got about a 6-8 wingspan. You feel what I'm saying? Yes. So. Joe, you watch him. Hey, I watch this.

I was like, bro, I don't know when you started doing this, but he'll get the ball. Yeah. And come over the top. And you know, you know who they compared, they compared him to D-Way. That was D-Way move. He stole D-Way move. Man, that was his comparison coming into the NBA. Duane Wade.

He stole it. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Yeah, he stole that from D-Way. He said, a friend of mine got five for talking about flop. I feel like that's what I gotta do at this point. I'm just not getting the calls. I don't know why.

I don't, and I don't flop. Maybe that's why. Don't even say that. They found, you remember, J.B., J. Lynn Brown complained about Joel and B flopping. They find it $50,000. So he, I guess he's talking, he's making reference to J.B. talking about flopping and got fired.

But he says, hey, maybe that's what I need to do, excuse me, to get some of these calls, is flop a little bit. They fined him for that? Oh, you can't criticize the officiated. They're fine. I don't necessarily think it's not really flopping. It's more of like a little subtle flail.

You know, I want to, like flopping is just that out of control, like just, I'll act like somebody and then punch you in the back of your head. Yeah, right, right. That's flopping. Like, you know what I mean? I mean, but the great scores, bro, they do. They got a little flailing in their game now. I mean, hell, he better take a page out of James Hartman book

because he do it with the best of them. But as you get older, though, Joe, they don't get you them calls. But you know what? And if that ain't your game, bro, it's hard to play like that. Okay, Ocho, you know, I was a guy who loves scoring the basketball, but I ain't, hell, I probably ain't averaged about three to four, maybe five free throws. You know, these guys not averaging, yeah, 12 free throws a night. man she's like one time shot 24 25 free throws hell bam shot baldy it's like they contact seekers

bro like it i wasn't i wasn't one of them guys i wasn't one of them guys who used to seek contact like that i mean yeah i make contact but i'm trying to initiate it i ain't necessarily trying to you know receive it and then flare i'm you know i'm using it for momentum so it just depends on you know some guys understand it and some you know just natural born scores No, not me. Ocho and I were a lot of like, I wasn't seeking no contact because I ain't want to get close to you.

So you can grab me. Because I already know what you're going to do. You're going to grab the hole of your holding beat. Don't, don't, don't. So I already know what you're going to do. I ain't playing bumper. That's a, if you look at like big guys, like drunk, like to play a bumper what I call bumper car.

Yeah. And buck good off you. Jason Williams played like that. Gonzales played like that. Nah, bro. I'm 225, bro. I can't let you get your hands on me. You're a whole hell like me.

And then what I'm going to do. I'm gonna be looking at coach like, hey, he holding, yeah. You use your speed. I'm using speed. Hey, hey, I'm swimming. Hey, you're, hey, you're, hop, hop. I'm getting skinny. I'm half a man.

Hey, you see this right? Hey, you never go to do this right here. You'll get this. You'll get this or you're getting that. That's what you get. That's it. That's it. Joe, I wax on wax on.

Why? Why? No, hell, no. They hold too much. But like you said, see, and that would throw me off. Because the first thing they do, because now I did, what I would do, especially a defensive lineman. Like if I'm trying to cut a defensive lineman off,

I would grab him and slingshot. So I would take, I would grab him out of the waist, try to cut him off, pull him out of stuff in front. Yeah, right here. Ralph, you're something, bro, stop complaining, man. You don't big 300-pound ass, call him, Ralph, tell him I healed you. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Oh, shit. But yeah, bad, hey, all that you got to learn the tricks of the trade, don't you got to. When you first come into the league, you don't really know them. But I think, like for me, playing with veteran guys, Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce, guys who love the score, you start to find the little nuances of the game like, damn. You know, you start to pick up on it because, you know, they use it against you in practice and all that. So once you pick up on it, then you get it, you're right. You got to find them little ways that you can score and get easy buckets.

I was one of them guys, right? Hey, look, I'm trying to learn every day. I'm a sponge. I'm out here. Anything I can pick up or I can steal from your game and add to mine? Yeah. Yep. I'm doing it.

Yeah. You know, I got some tools in a tool box, Joe, you can use it in a big three. Yeah, what you got? You gonna see when I use it on your ass. Hey, it's the subtle stuff. It's amazing how many times guys will bite. Yeah. Bro.

And they tell my, man, watch his weight. Bro, ain't nobody looking. It's a special DB. And you're a special DB if you're looking at that guy's waist. That ain't nobody. I mean, that's where Revis, and Revis had to be watching that. Because that joke was so patient. Yeah, he ain't going nowhere.

Rivas ain't going nowhere. He ain't biting the first move. Hey. All he's going to do is them long ass off. That's another one. He's walking in the knuckles scrubbing the ground, joke. My God. I mean, you look at that joke, I'm like,

ain't no way that man arms that long. Yeah. Yeah. That's a huge advantage, bro, when you got them long arms. For a DB? Yeah. And he's strong. He's strong.

His hands, his hands are really, really strong. So now he can control you. He can do this. Yeah. Yeah. But all he's going to do, hey, he's going to get on top of you. He's going to ride you and you're going to look back. And as he's looking back, he's ride your ass right out of bounds.

Hey, you know, in basketball, it's taught the same way. You know, watch his waist. You know what I'm saying? He can't go nowhere without that waist. Don't watch that ball. That ball is going to have you on that damn float. All over the place. You need to watch his waist.

He can't get, he can't go nowhere without that waist. Hey, I had a coach tell me and say, son, give him that little head, what man can resist hair? So, hey, hey, oh, Joe, I, ah, ah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, they bite it every time. How they go, right? No, you don't, bro. I was going to go there.

I was thinking about going inside. But you know what? You beat me to that point. Yeah. Got to bait them. But, yeah, you got to learn those trades. It's trial, especially if you don't have a veteran player that teach you. I mean, the guy, they weren't receiving tight ends that I played with.

They were blockers. So I got to learn everything. I'm trying stuff in practice. Hell, if it worked, I'll try it. If it did work, got to scrap that. Dude covered the hell out of me on that plate. Yeah. You've got a trial of error.

The NBA playoffs delivered the most watched first round in 33 years. Game 7 of the 76th of Celtics on May 2nd is the most watched first round game 7 averaging 11 million viewers on NBC and Peacock. First round average 4 million viewers per game across ABC, ESPN, Amazon Prime video, and NBC Peacock. Joe, what is it about this year's playoffs that got people and everybody, man, they got these games all spread out, man, I ain't paying all that money. get the somebody paying something on you're doing yo because they watch it's the most watched in 33 years yeah hey it's it's exciting you don't i think it's the unknown for real i mean as much as you know

everybody got okay c winning it hell you really don't know because san antonio's scary you know what mean i think with jason tatum coming back and giving boston that edge kind of catapulted them into you know making it to the NBA finals at the east and now I think everybody is intrigued to, you know, what may happen. So I'm glad the ratings is up. But I don't know how to hell they up due to the games on all these different damn apps. Like, okay, if the ratings up, then Peacott and Amazon, they're making a damn killing ain't they? Yeah.

Damn. And they'd be getting on us to my man, you got too many ads. Hell, y'all don't tell them that works that. How many ads you see in the store? Super Bowl. They run 200 ads in the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. And $8 million of ad.

And y'all sit right there and watch them. Mm-hmm. I got a little, I got like four or five ads in there. You're talking about, oh, man. And, hey, that's cold shatter. Yeah, that's cold shud. Download the app to date. Yeah.

Hey. But I agree. I think you look at it. And Detroit, I think Detroit being, and look, they love Detroit. basketball and they're back. Yeah. The Spurs, they're back. Look, the Lakers are the Lakers.

The Knicks are the Knicks. You got these fan bases that no matter what, Knicks, Lakers, Celtics. Philly? Philly, yeah, Philly. But when you get these young teams, like, oh, my team filing the playoffs at the long time.

Think about San Antonio had been to playoffs in a long, long time. They're back. You got Detroit. They've been in the play. but people their fan base believe man we got a realistic chance to get to the NBA finals right yeah Orlando I'm I'm glad I'm glad these is looking like this it's it all I'm glad the NBA because look they they spent these the Amazon and and and and

NBC and Peacock they spent a lot of money is finished with a lot of money what seven billion seven billion dollars Damn. That's why you want your superstars playing. That's why. That's why you want your superstars playing, Joe. The product is the product that's on the court, you know, they have the playoffs every single year.

But the product that's on the court this year, it has people wanting to watch. I agree. I agree. We want to see this game. We want to see Ant Man. We want to see Brunson. We want to see Embed and Maxie.

Yeah, you want to. That's why the number is going up. Yeah. Hey. But hell, if they. If they're not playing other product that's on the court, it's not good, who the hell tuning? I agree, man.

Outside of, like, avid basketball scene. I agree. I agree. That's why we got to get the big three ratings up, man. We need more stars to come play. They're scared. Joe, how last you, what, Joe? See, the thing is, a lot of cats,

you got to really love it, bro, because a lot of, of us are kind of up in age and hell if you don't play 12 15 18 years in the NBA you ain't because you ain't trying to keep your body in that type of shape and you see that with a lot of these guys who retire bro they just kind of you know let themselves go see I ain't what I love staying in shape that's why I can still enjoy playing the game it's when it's when you got all these you bogged down with all these injuries and you stay out of shape is that the game is not fun to you no more you know what I mean but hell we're on a national stage, bro. You know, we just need a, we need a couple of stars to come join the league,

boost the ratings up a little bit, get us out there. You know, I can, hey, Joe, listen to me now. You know, I check my availability, man. You don't need, you don't need to worry about nobody with me, partner. That's it. You don't do. You don't need to worry about nobody with me. Come a year, Joe Brown might come out there and join y'all. Yeah, he might. I can see his ass going there. They'll pay him big money to come out there and play. I got it. I'm going to, I'm going to hit him, let him know. Hey, man, I'm still be kicking, God damn. Hey, don't forget your boy.

Go run with me. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, this, it's been very excited because the game, you think about some of the closeness of the games. Games have been very, very interesting. Yeah, you've had some blowouts. But you think about all these game sevens. Yeah.

That's a, hey, hey, more basketball. More basketball, yeah. Cleveland was a game seven. Philly was a game seven. Orlando, Detroit was a game seven. Now, we didn't get any game sevens in the Western conference. But you got some good damn games because they star-studded. We got some good, great games.

The West so stacked from top to bottom, hell, first round, you got Minnesota playing Denver. Hell, everybody wanted to see that. And then you got LeBron and Katie going head to head. The ratings would have been a lot better, too, with that. I mean, they probably were still high because of LeBron. But, hell, if you'd have had Katie out there, and they had made that thing a series, and they went by seven, whee. Yep, yeah.

Or Messerriding get let O, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. But he wouldn't have, well, Steph, if you'd have been in the playoff, man, you wouldn't have been able to went to the Met Gallo, so it's, it's, you did all right. Right. Did y'all see the video of J.R. Smith getting knocked, though, by Nick's fans. I've seen that. Let's take a look at this video. Hey, that was funny. Jay, I were like, hey, cheer, relax, relax.

Damn. Ain't nobody go help the man up? Man, hey, let me tell y'all something. Y'all know them damn Knicks fans, boy, they don't play about their nicks, bro. They're real fanatics over there. Hey, look, Ocho, I lived in Manhattan when I played for the Nets. And man, me and my son, we had these electric scooters. We used to ride down through Manhattan.

Y'all know it's stay busy. busy. I had a dude ride past me. He was like, fuck the Nets. This Knicks country. You in Manhattan. Yeah, he yelled at his window. Them four, hey, them folks don't play

boy about their Knicks, so I don't know what Jay I was thinking about being out there in Jim Pop like that. Yeah, no. Especially after the game, like, where'd can you imagine you try to go out of your team win a big game when you win the Super Bowl or you win the World Series, the NBA championship, and you take your ass out there to celebrate with them face.

It's, hey, it's, man, they're standing on top of cars. They're flipping police cars. They, man, hell. Listen, bro. You bet you better be ready. I'm going to be in my window. Oh, boy, they crazy down there. Oh, shit.

We talk about if the Knicks make the finals, damn the finals. If the Knicks get out this round and get back to the Eastern Conference final, they're going to act a fool, bro. I don't even, Joe, look here. I don't even want to, I don't even want to imagine what that thing will be about to get to the NBA final Joe. Hey. You got to realize how long it's being.

They got the National Guard out there. Yeah. Ocho. Hey, junk. Man, what you call it? Be out there with him, a Spike Lee and Tracy Morgan. Every day I do.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey. They would tear that city up, bro. They will flip it for a championship. Do you understand what a championship mean to the Knicks? I mean, for the Knicks. For the New York?

Yeah. Man, hold on. It goes, if the Yankees and the Knicks, then the Giants. Jets, I'm sorry, Jets and Mets. Y'all out there on the islands, y'all, Long Island, stuff like that. But the Yankees, the Knicks, and the Giants? Listen, not only would it be huge for New York, if the Knicks got to the finals and won it,

that should have been huge for basketball, period, bro. But they're going to tell New York up. I'm talking about Brunson. They're going to have the whole Knicks thing. They're going to be on Mount Rushmore up there, like the whole team. Yeah. Oh, if Brunson takes this team and they win the finals,

oh, he absolutely. He up there with Willis Reed and Clyde and, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Earl of Pearl, yes, he's there. Hey, I'm sorry, he's going to kick Patrick on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or champion. Oh, man, look here. Those teams like that, they revere champions over the team.

I don't care how to win a championship. Man, that boy would be, not only Brunson, but their team will be beloved in New York, bro. They won't be. Hey, never had to pay for anything ever again, Joe. Never. Ever again. Never.

Don't folk don't play by them names. You see what it did for Jeter? You see what it did for Stray? Yes, sir. Stray is a D-Ly lineman and get loved. Can you imagine if Stray was, was a quarterback or a wire receiver. Man, man, that ninja to be mayor, a governor,

or whatever he wanted to be. Look at Jeter. Just imagine if Aaron Judge brings a world series. Mm-mm-mm. That's cool. Look at he look at Eli. Eli don't even talk. Hey, the Yankees still.

Eli don't got a paper. He's still got stinting over there. Is he still over there too? Oh, Giancarlo. Yeah, he and Carlos Stad. Yeah, he's still there. Oh, is it? Yeah, he, he wore on title than guitar strings.

He always pulled it something, back, hamstring, quads up. I'm just picturing the goddamn nix, understanding what New York City going to be upside down, but. Man. I'm talking about, I get, hey. Ben Stiller, Tracy Morgan. Yes, sir. Man, ain't no telling what them jokers do.

Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Jimmy Fallon. Spike Lee going to lose his mind. Because Spike Lee ain't seen the championship since. Spike was probably 20, 22 when they last won the championship, Willis Reed. Man, Spike Lee loses their damn mind. What's up?

Now, y'all don't be surprised. Now, I don't say it at first. Now, then boy, when they got damn, they win that goddamn chip. And you see the goddamn statute of liberty being carried through the city. All right, no. All right. Hey, you might, though.

You might, ain't no telling, boy. Hey, ain't, ain't no telling. Don't put it past him now. Oh, my goodness. Spike Lee going to be out of his mind. Because, hey, they won a game in Spike Lee over there to celebrate. Can you imagine? They win a championship.

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