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Episode Date: May 15, 2025Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & New York Knick legend Charles Oakley react to Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves eliminate the Golden State Warriors to advance t...o the Western Conference Finals, the Boston Celtics blow out the New York Knicks to extend the series, and Nick Van Exel has a theory on players are tearing their achilles & much more!05:20 - Warriors v Wolves36:40 - Celtics v Knicks50:50 - Nick Van Exel’s theory on achilles tears58:35 - MPJ and SGA make the same amount(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap
as you watch the Minnesota Timberwolves advance to the Western Conference Finals thanks to
a 121-110 victory over the Golden State Warriors, minus Steph Curry.
But they get the job done, now they await the winner of the Nuggets and the OKC Thunder.
Boston, staved off the elimination.
They're going back to MSG thanks to a 127-102 victory
over the Knicks at home.
Now they'll head back to MSG on Friday
to see if the Knicks won't close this series out.
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Back to back Western Conference Finals appearance
for the Minnesota Timberwolves.
The Timberwolves eliminated the Golden State Warriors
in five to reach the Conference Finals once again.
Ant-Man, average 26 points a game,
almost eight rebounds, almost six assists.
Julius Randall right there with him, 25 points a game, almost eight rebounds, almost six assists. Julius Raddle right there with him,
25 points a game, almost seven rebounds,
almost seven and a half assists per game.
The dynamic duo was as good as advertised,
even better as the rounds advanced.
Anthony Edwards and the Timberwolves
have faced a very impressive gauntlet of stars
on their way to back-to-back conference finals
and dispatched them all.
Remember, last year they beat Katie and Book,
they beat Yokech and Murray.
This year, they took down LeBron and Luca,
and although they only faced Steph for a game,
the game that Steph played in, he started,
they ended up losing that game.
But once Steph went away, they swept it,
a gentlemen sweep, four, five to one,
four to one, excuse me. So the Timberwolves advance to the Western Conference finals
where they'll weight the winner of the Nuggets
and the OKC Thunder.
Oh, watching this game tonight,
Minnesota, they've been very impressive.
Ant-Man is a budging superstar.
He's growing right before our eyes.
Julius Randall has found a home.
He played very, very well alongside Ant-Man
and they get great contribution.
Jay McDaniels had 14 points.
Rudy Gobert had 17 points.
Mike Conley had 16 points.
Dante DiVincenzo, he had 13 points.
This was an overall team effort, and this is what you want.
You get an opportunity to close a team out.
You close them out. You don't leave anything to chance
because you're a road anchor or anything
away from extending the series.
They took care of business and now they're moving on.
What impressed you most about what you saw tonight from Minnesota?
Um, I think that, you know, watching Minnesota, you know, this year from last
year, I think they most focused, uh, and then just showing the world of how great
he's going to be.
You know, we're doing this continuing in the NBA.
But you got to get the coaches to have a lot of credit.
It's a big game.
Clothes are out at home.
Get ready for next series.
Everybody took a turn tonight.
Rudy was inside.
Jury was just posting up.
You got Connelly was hitting big threes.
Dante, he's doing what he's doing in New York, getting big plays.
And Amber just on cruise control tonight.
He makes sure everybody got stops and he just played the game.
He can get smarter, smarter, but more you want more than you get.
Yeah.
He had 22 points, 12 assists, which is a career playoff high, 12 assists,
seven rebounds, three blocks tonight.
And a steal, as you mentioned.
The thing where they got whatever they wanted.
They shot 63% from the floor.
They damn near shot better from the floor than they did the free throw line.
They were only 67% from the free throw line.
They were 63% from the floor.
And as you mentioned, Ant-Man, look at Julius Radler was 13 of 18.
Rudy Gobert was 8 of 9.
Mike Conley 5 of 7.
Ant-Man 8 of 15. Nas Reid 3 of 5, Dante 5 of 7.
So you can see they were getting whatever they want. Easy shots at the rim, they're doing a great job.
Now, they lost the offensive rebounding battle. I mean, Golden State had 18 offensive rebounds to 6.
It didn't hurt them, but you know the next team, the next round, both teams can offensive rebound, so they're gonna have to clean that up.
Ocho, you watched this game and we talked about when Steph went down, they were
gonna have to fight and have an uphill climb. Tonight, Pazeski, he came to play.
He had 28 points. 11 of 19, 4 of six. Jimmy, Jimmy struggled a little bit.
Four of 11, he only had 11 shots, Ocho.
He was nine, 11 from the free throw line
or three from the three point line.
But outside of Paz and Kamenga,
they didn't get the contributions that they really needed.
And they really needed Jimmy Butler.
This is why they got Jimmy.
For a game like this, if Steph is out, extend the series.
Let's give him an opportunity because he's going to start doing some light
working and the next game is three days away.
So maybe we get a chance to get him.
And this is when they need to play off Jimmy to be playoff Jimmy in Golden State.
Listen, I don't know.
I don't know what was wrong with Jimmy at all.
Cause he's been, he's been playing, he hasn't been aggressive the past two games,
obviously trying to facilitate to everybody else.
If they even have a chance, you're down three one.
If you even gonna have a chance, I need playoff Jimmy.
I need that mentality to come through
where I'm gonna take this game over.
I'm gonna do everything I can to get myself a rhythm first
and then I'm gonna facilitate to everybody else
once I get myself going.
Pazimski led the team with 28?
Level 19. I mean, with 28? Level of 19.
I mean, minga, level of 23.
So that shows you they were aggressive.
That's what we were expecting for Jimmy,
because remember last game on show, he only took eight shots.
And we were like, man, what's going on with Jimmy?
And now he comes back in a close out game, it's do or die.
You either cleaning out your locker or you're getting another outfit
ready to go back on the road, back home.
And this is what you give us? Yeah, but that's what I'm thinking now. This is not the Jimmy we used to
seeing. This is not the Jimmy I'm used to seeing with Miami, right? So maybe this late in the season
something's wrong with Jimmy. Maybe he's hurt. Maybe something is ailing that we don't know about,
but he's still fighting knowing that Steph is out and they would have no production from anywhere
else outside of him and Kaminga. Kaminga should be in the starting line from now on, period.
Steve Kerr should be ashamed of himself
for having somebody that's continuously dropping buckets
the way he is night in and night out
and losing efforts and still doing all he can
with Steph being out.
Outside of that, listen,
Julius Randall did what he was gonna do.
Ant-Man, he's the face of the league.
I don't care what nobody say.
He's the head of the snake.
The snake go over,
and goddamn Rudy Gobert dropped 17 tonight, huh?
Yeah.
17.
17 and six, 17.
What did he have?
He had 17 points, eight rebounds,
no assists, no steals, one block,
but he was plus 21.
Jimmy was plus 20.
McDaniel's plus two.
So they got an all-around team effort.
But when you watch-
That's the key word before I let you finish, right?
You just said the key words.
A team effort.
That's the answer.
Guys in double figures, Ocho.
Hey, Unc.
Not just that, Chad.
He always starts over 50% from the field.
That would hurt you.
And especially with a team on the side, don't have your main guy.
And you know, like you said, Butler, I mean, they've been saying he's been playing well,
even though Golden State been winning with him, you ain't seen that Butler in Miami.
You know, a couple games here and there, but he never really played consistent go to say but go to say one
The record look good, but on the court and the playoff. Yeah, well, you know you could take over but these guys is young
Athletic and you know, that's what the game now it ain't about banging no more
It's the way and tear going up and down the court. Mm-hmm
If you if you watched the Warriors and you watch the Timberwolves, where can they guard?
Draymond really can't do anything with Jew Randal.
He's too big of a body.
He just bangs it.
They don't really have anybody that can do anything with an Ant-Man.
And so really your two best players, you don't really have an answer for.
So if you don't have an answer for them, now you bring the double team.
I'm going to kick and I I'm gonna get Mike Conley
getting wide open threes.
I'm gonna get somebody getting wide open looks
or somebody diving to the basket
because you've got to send help.
If you don't send help,
I'm gonna punish you guys one-on-one.
And that's what happened tonight.
Your stars, when you got stars,
and they're opposing teams, don't have a guys,
but even if nobody can really stop anybody,
but make them be inefficient.
Julius Randle was 13 of 18
Was 8 of 15 five or nine from the three so he's shooting over 50 from the three
He's shooting over 50 from the floor Julius ran his 13 of 18
I mean, so I mean what's really really?
It follows a for a fun to feel you know
Right, so it's gonna be hard to beat them
We especially all three of a shooting like that and the team was rolling
I mean they got a little Luther good to them turn over in the third quarter late in the ball game
You got a little careless, but that's that's Minnesota though. You know, they go down by 15 go up by 20. Mm-hmm
If I'm Chris Finch, okay, I'm saying look guys
If we want to be the team that we think we can be right we can't have a lapse like this
Because we have a laugh like this in the next game next round
Both of those team will come all the way back and snatch a victory from us. Yeah, so
Let's not play around. Let's kill a net with a sledgehammer.
We had them down 20, 22, 23 points.
Let's go ahead and end it.
Make them go, make Steve Kerr go ahead and sub his guys out
with four minutes left because they're down 26.
Let's not dilly dally around.
And I think that's the mentality you're gonna have to have.
You're right. Ant-Man is what, 23, 24 years of age? I think he's 23, you're gonna have to have you're right the man is what 23 24 years of age
Yeah, I think he's 23 in
23 23 yeah
Yeah, he might be 23
Anyway, those are those are the type of game. This is a very a very
Learnable moment teachable excuse me teachable momentable moment. Because when you get in these situations,
let's not fool around.
No.
Let's go ahead and end this thing.
Hey, I can get you out,
cause Ant-Man played 48 minutes,
Juranba played 43 minutes,
McDaniel played 41 minutes.
Hey, I could have got your guys off the court.
That could have been instead of 41,
that could have been 37, that could have been 36.
Absolutely, and the way they played towards the end of the game monk if they plan a better team
You plan a better a better team out the way. Yeah, you're not gonna be able to pull that off
You're not gonna be able to pull that off of those turnovers. Obviously
Collectively when you make it to the we make it to that Western Conference finals
You're gonna be and a much better team all the way around all the way around around. Shit, the goddamn Warriors, and I mean no disrespect,
no boy like a G League team tonight without Steph.
You know, I know for Zimski and goddamn Camille did their thing,
but outside of that, well, it really wasn't that not there.
You know what?
If they still would have Steph, Minnesota,
they got too much left and they're too talented,
and they got Ant-Man and figured out how to play basketball.
You're giving the ball up left and right.
Because they're double-team, somebody opens every time.
Because he's passing the ball. You gotta give him credit.
He ain't found out how to play the double-team.
Right. And that was...
And I think, you know, Oka and Ocho,
I think the best thing to have an Ant-Man
is that he went to the Olympics and he saw the other great players and he saw how they played.
Yeah. He saw Steph that had give the ball up.
He saw KD give the ball up. He saw LeBron give the ball up.
Think about when they were down to Serbia.
And it's like, oh, and you see them guys play unselfish.
Steph, hey, guys making three or four passes instead of forcing it,
because a lot of times and saying to himself, hey, hell hell I get down 10 points, I'm going hero ball.
They say, no, just make the right pass.
Just make the right, you've got to be able to trust.
Now, obviously he ain't got LeBron,
he is still a KD of teammates,
but you have to be willing to trust the guys
that they're going to be able to do it.
Then there'll be a time that you have to,
Hey, go into that phone booth,
make a quick change and come out with the cape on your back. But you're going be able to do it. Then there'll be a time that you have to, hey, go into that phone booth, make a quick change,
and come out with the cape on your back.
But you're gonna have to trust,
because you're not gonna always be able to do that.
You're gonna have to be able to trust those guys.
Those guys need to know that you trust them
and give them confidence that they can step up
and make those shots.
But I like what I saw from him,
because when the Lakers tried to take him away,
he passed the ball.
But the problem that the Lakers had is that not only was he making the right
pass, he was still getting 30 points.
He was getting 40 points.
So you can't, you got to make him one of the other, you either make him a score or
you make him a facilitator, but you can't let him do both.
It's kind of like, yo,
the problem is they want a double team, but they're not quick out of the double team
for rotating back to the position.
And that's why they killed the Lakers,
because Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke,
the Lakers, Minnesota's playing five and a half
against four and a half.
Yeah.
Because Luke wasn't gonna do nothing on defense,
and they figured that out.
That's why they kept rotating their ball.
And the Lakers, you wear them out,
we rotate the ball like that. And they kept they kept rotating the ball and you wear them out. We rotate the ball like that
And you can't put a loop in the pick and roll. Yeah
Hey
Because here's the thing. There's one thing to get beat if a guy can beat you you're like, okay
Make him take three dribbles to beat you. You gotta beat Luke off the first dribble or not
Yeah, you can't win like that
There's a report coming out Well, not as wide as guys ride over. Yeah. You can't win like that.
There's a report coming out, guys.
Steve Kerr reportedly had an issue with Jonathan Kamenga
looking off step at times during the game.
Per Logan Murdoch, Kamenga has a propensity
to look for his shot at the expense
of the flow of Golden State's offense,
has irked the coaching staff.
Team sources say Kerr was incensed after several instances in which Kaminga
looked off Curry to create his own offense.
Kaminga subsequently received DMPs in the Warriors regular season finale
against the Glimbers and then again in the play-in matchup against the Grizzlies.
By the start of the playoffs, many within the organization wondered whether
Kaminga, who is eligible for an extension,
has played his last game at the Warriors.
The Warriors are now 0-7 when Kaminga plays 20 plus minutes in the playoffs.
That's fine.
Send him somewhere else.
Send him somewhere else and let someone else that values him and what he brings to the
court, let him play.
Let him play.
He just showed you what you're got to do with Steph being.
I mean, my thing with Steph, you got to be special. You'll be willing to break your
game down. Like Draymond, you know, I mean Draymond is perfect for him.
Camille, he's a guy, athletic, he can get to the rim, he need the ball 20 times a game.
So, train him to watch for somebody, get a player back and play with Steph for the next
two or three years. Because he's holding his kid back.
That was some guy that broke down.
He kept his head.
He'd been balling the playoff, even though they ain't win, it ain't his fault
because this effort, the points and for him just being strong to go on the
court and just go out and perform.
Some, some guy was that forget Steve Kerr.
Yeah.
And it's been curing me to get over this thing too.
Get you a lineup.
You know what you got.
It's playoff.
You always tend different lineups and this and that mismatch and JJ do a
little, the same thing too.
You, you bring these guys the game down to play how you want to play.
But then when contract come up, are you going to reward them?
No, these guys want these young guys.
They want the ball.
They want to feel special and it's hard to break some habits.
That's the NBA because now it's, you know, everybody wants you three.
They want to feel the ball.
So you gotta be careful these days with these players.
So they're real special to you.
Hey, Oc, you know what I like too? The fact that you just said, especially players in this day being very sensitive and you get
messed with their mental, especially when you're not getting the time.
And now with this report coming out, the fact that even with these reports and him not playing
and her not playing Kaminga, look how he still when he got his opportunity, he took advantage
of it.
He made the most of it.
And he showed you where regardless to what you got going on
Do whatever that you may have we didn't allow me to play during you know, the Clippers series, right?
If it come my handball, so all you did was that was his resume. Oh
The real pro though, yeah, he's a real pro. Yeah, he didn't hang his head
He could have right the hung his head like, and like, man, F you.
You done sought me.
You sought me to regular, the finale.
You sought me into play-in.
And now you ain't got no choice but to use me.
When you, having played the game as long as you played,
you know when you play with a superstar,
you got to be willing to sacrifice.
There's no other way around it.
No doubt.
No doubt.
I don't care how great you think you are.
A lot of guys, if you ain't like a continued all-star willing to sacrifice. There's no other way around it. No doubt. No doubt. I don't care how great you think you are.
A lot of guys, if you ain't like a continued all-star
in this league and you guys, some guys on the ball
and some guys know how to play, but you gotta know,
I played with Michael Jordan, you know,
when I came in the league, it was both stars.
And once you see him play practice and what he do,
and I knew that couldn't be a score if I played with him.
Like a rebound defense. I didn't mind doing that because he was winning.
Right.
He was winning.
And you get a lot of perks just being around him and everything else.
So NBC bringing him back for some reason.
Hey, we're going to talk about that a little later, but I think the thing is, it's like,
if it is hard, it's hard when you like, man, I got the game,
then I can go get 25 and you gotta play with LeBron
or you gotta play with a Steff.
I mean, and those guys are willing to sacrifice,
but if you're going to their team,
you got to be the, you have to take the bigger sacrifice.
That's the only way to do it.
I mean, if you go team up with Yannis,
you not get more shots than Yannis. You just not.
No. Unless you LeBron or Curry. That's the only one.
So you're saying, so you're saying, so, hey, okay, let me get this right. So in communicate,
let's say Steph Curry was healthy.
Oh, he ain't getting this many minutes.
Hold on. And they both on the floor at the same time. So he has to suppress his game and his shot.
Yes.
Just so Steph can continue to cook and eat?
Because the offense is built around Steph and perpetual motion.
So you can't go outside of the scope of the offense in order to create your offense.
Okay, I got you.
Now listen, even with what he showed us the past two games, or three games as good as he's been being, you know, putting the ball on the floor,
creating his own shot, even still to that, even still, he still has to defer
to Steph no matter what.
Yeah.
That's the thing about what you just said.
I mean, my thing is it's all about read.
It's about read.
It's like you run a route and you know that, you know, it's third and sixth
and another guy's running 10 to 15 yard route.
You run an eight yard route.
I'm going to look for you first.
I was going to get the first down.
We can go vertical next route after you get the first down.
So that was the first option.
And it's the step of the great path.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So a lot of times he got, he might be the only guy that can get away with
turning, taking certain shots because he's down, he created his own created all elements so you gotta live with him and die with him you but think about what
Steph did Steph sacrificed his game when KD came over yeah so you think about
that spec about Steph Curry he was a MVP wait Steph still averaged the same amount of points even with KD's being there though but he
took but he took less he's like you, you know what, hey, I'll take, go ahead and do your thing, KD.
Right.
And so that's what, because he, at the end of the day, the goal is to try to win a championship.
Now, if you want to go, the same reason they got rid of Jordan Poo.
They're like, okay, you want to score. We tried to win games.
Right.
There's a difference between the two. Ocho, if you're doing what you're doing and we're winning,
you see in the last seven games in which Kamiga has played 20 plus minutes, they're 0 and 7.
0 and 7.
Well, I think when Phil played with KD, KD is so efficient and just like he ain't got nothing to
worry about. He know if he take 20 shots, he gonna make 13 or 14. But if Kamiga takes 20 shots,
he gonna make 7 or 8. But if Miguel takes 20 shots, he gonna make 7 or 8.
It's a big difference.
And that's the thing, because now, and guess what?
Who, let's see, who do we double team?
If we double team KD, that means Steph and what you call it,
and Clay getting wide open shots.
If we double team Steph, now that means KD and Clay.
We're not gonna double Clay, but Clay is probably
the better of the catching shooters.
KD gonna be able to get his own shot.
He's seven foot tall, he can put the ball on the floor,
he's a three-level scorer, he can shoot the three,
he can get to the middle,
and he can finish all the way at the rim.
Steph, Steph has brought that to his bag now.
Because before, you run Steph off the line,
Steph just go on sidestepping.
Now Steph will put the ball on the floor
and get to his float game. So now how do you defend it?
He just needs another player and Jim and they really thought that was gonna be Jimmy
Jimmy was supposed to be the guy that was gonna alleviate a lot of the stress and tension on Steph
Because he was a guy because we saw what he did in Miami Miami
Yeah, but he for whatever reason Oh Joe
He has not looked
Like that guy he got a he's
Look like he on cruise control. They don't they want to do 85 in the 55
You know cruise control they want you to speed cuz curry and they need you they need that
Yes, what you had in Miami
They need that go tonight. He's gonna get 40 or 50
He needed to have the amount of shots that
Kaminka had Kaminka had 23
Presumpti had 19 that needed to be Jimmy. Yeah
Hey, you think you think the point the, the boy don't bother somebody like Jimmy.
How he don't get him by the boy.
Huh?
Huh?
You think the boy?
Nah, Jimmy.
Yeah.
He get around.
But my thing is he, they gave me the money.
They gave him the money and now they want some back for the money.
Yeah.
And then Pat Riley took him through the ring.
I like, no, Pat Riley feel like, like you said,
that knee was going towards E, towards the center forward.
He ran out of gas.
Pat Riley, you know, when you've been around a long time,
you can see the guy's body.
He looks good, got the muscles,
he's like giving down the core,
but inside, you know, like brand new car.
And some people got old car
I got ten of my car because mine like so all my lights on but I'm still right
So you can't see it but my car about to break down
He got check engine light on
Press your light on just about the time
Downside the road, that's a good one. That's a good one.
And Pat Riley one of them old school coaches.
Oh, you know this.
Oh yeah, I pray for it.
Pat Riley, all Pat Riley cares about is year to year.
Oh, you took us to all these finals?
That ain't got nothing to do with it.
All I saw last year is that you wore down
and you didn't look the same like you did
in those championships.
So he's not, because Pat is like,
and a lot of coaches and GMs and things like this, Ocho,
I've already paid you, when I give you an extension,
I'm facing that extension on what I believe
you're going to do in the next three, four, five years.
I've already paid you for taking us to the finals.
I gave you 40 million for that.
I ain't paying you based on what you've done.
I'm paying you based on what I believe you can do.
Yogi is about to sign a three year deal, 221 million.
Not because he's won three MVPs.
They believe he can win another two, three more.
Yeah.
That's why you give a guy that kind of contract.
And so Jimmy is like, hey, y'all saw what I've done?
Yeah, Pat said we rewarded you for that.
But you know how they ever, you come in, you're looking at contract, Hey, y'all saw what I've done. Yeah, pass it. We rewarded you for that
But you know how to hit a bill you come in your rookie contract you get another kind It's hard to get three contract in a bill. Oh, yeah, keep going down with eight or nine years
That's right about oh
Yeah, you might get it now the way they do it and now they try to get a running back because they refilled the running back
His highest value old shows win only rookie contract because he's 21 years of age.
Right. So now I get four years out of 25. I don't put 250 carries on him a year, maybe more. So
I've already got a thousand to 1200 carries on his body. Yeah. Right. That's what they're saying. It's
like, well, I don't know. Now, hopefully with the way Saquon has played, the way Derrick Henry has kept his body up,
Josh Jacobs, we saw resurgence, we saw Gentie go very, very high.
Because for the longest time, Ocho,
they had diminished the role of the running back.
But thanks to some great production,
this year by the running back position,
it's starting to come back.
We saw Joe Mixon, we saw Josh Jacobs, we saw Henry,
we saw Saquon, we saw Jameer Gibbs and Montgomery.
So hopefully, hopefully they'll start to reward
these running backs because they were looking at,
hey, the maximum value we're going to get at this guy
is his rookie contract.
Yeah, but you got to think.
Look at all the people you just named.
You talk about the cream of the crop. You talk about the cram of the running back
position. Well they pay every other position that ain't cream of the crop. Look at all
these quarterbacks. Yeah. Yeah. But you know who they value most. You know who they feel
is the least valuable is the running back position. They think you can just, you can
plug and pull. I can just pull one from somewhere else.
You can't pull a Saquon from anywhere else.
You can't pull a Derrick Henry from anywhere else.
I bet Cincinnati wished they had Joe Mixon.
Hey, Joe had a hell of a day.
Very, very good season.
But the battle, I bet the Raiders wished they had Josh Jacobs.
Look what he did to Bre.
Same thing. He didn't miss a. Same thing. He missed a beat.
He missed a beat.
So according to Shams, Draymond was fined $50,000 for making an inappropriate comment that questioned the integrity of the game officials
during game three cameras caught Dray on the sideline mouthing five and a half
spread during timeout after he filed out.
Draymond, Draymond is taking chill.
You know, everybody loves Draymond, you know, he come out, everybody has to hear
him, he go, please do it.
Draymond, you do something every time.
They ain't calling you just because you're Draymond.
You do something.
They really give you a break, Drayaymond and you still holler and cuff
the pitcher. I'd vow to the pitcher Draymond would be out of the game by the third time down the court.
He'll be out of the game.
But oh you know he does that because he knows once he gets one they're gonna be very reluctant to give him that second
tech and throw him out of the game because they don't want to influence the game.
Right.
Hey, I wouldn't be worried about it for the game.
I mean, I ain't going to let somebody cuss me out having six, seven points a game.
I mean, do anybody got to get a triple double?
You got to get a triple double.
I know he said he feels good about this team.
Butler coming, make his last playoff run with Curry.
But the Curry got hurt. The team just seemed like just, they didn't have no more
juice. You know, they played to a limit, but to a later, you need talent.
You got to have talent to throw the win.
Dre Mon has been fined $992,000 in his career with
$185,000 coming for actions towards official.
He's also been docked $ 3.2 million for suspensions.
So he's lost over $4 million.
Over $4 million.
Yeah.
And well.
I don't like the curse that much.
I don't like to be right that much, Ocho.
Oh, God.
I don't know about you, Ocho, but hey,
y'all got, that was a good call.
That was a good call, Real. Good call.
You know what, when you make that kind of money,
it's like you ain't even paying no mind, honestly.
Oh, you paid us a mind.
I know, I mean, you gotta think about it.
If you would've added up my fines, right?
I know the times were different.
The times were different.
Now you gotta think, for 11 years straight,
I got fined every season for 11 years straight,
to the point where I put money aside
because I know I'm for the cut up anyway.
But saying how much you get fined doesn't differ. You might get fined $30,000 a year or $100,000 a year.
What if they fined you a quarter of a million every year?
Hold on, hold on, hold on, Oak. You gotta think, right? My first offense during the season, it starts at $5,000, right?
I'm saying how much was the average that year? about forty fifty thousand no no no cuz by the time I got about week 10 and I was doing
stuff at that point it was 30 to 40 to 50 thousand so you think you can hey
okay dad that point I didn't even care I'm having fun you think you got fine a
quarter of a million dollars a year yeah oh you think you got fine that much
absolutely okay oh let me tell you something.
Remember when I tweeted on the sideline in 2009? That was 30 grand right there.
You remember when in September, I put on a poncho, like a real poncho
in the Sunbrow Road in September. They took 50 for that. And you got to think, I
kept doing stuff week in and week out. The orange chin strap, the black chin
strap, the black chin strap,
the robe, wearing gold shoes.
I didn't care.
I just, and when you add it all up by the end of the season,
I didn't care cause I was making it up.
You were making money,
but you really didn't pay attention to it.
That's what happens sometimes.
Yeah.
It could be that one, Draymond.
But I got five in a lot of my career.
I probably got five about five, four or five million.
You got five too? Oh,. You got my whole career. Oh
I mean you played 18 years 19 years
Well, I was more like suspension for five in a couple in the couple people to hear before the game
You got that Tesla with him but man I ain't one two is this
Hey and sparkle about one, two, dip. Hey, ask Sparkle about it.
Hey, you got it with Tyrone Hill, with Tyrone Hill, that's what,
how many games you got suspended for?
That was a pickup game.
That was in the summertime.
You were fighting the pickup game?
You were fighting the pickup game?
No.
He got a lock up on me.
What you said, Sandy?
Who you got to fight with?
Uh, hold on. You slapped somebody.
You went to that shoot around.
Oh, that was, uh, what's his name?
The Clippers.
Uh, Todd Lawson.
McGinnis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you knew
that the word
was going to get back to Stern,
that you had did something,
and he was gonna put the, he's gonna drop the hammer.
Why you do that?
It wasn't about that he threatened me, man.
And they was-
Sit by that, baby.
Hey, and I told him, I went in there and practiced.
The whole team, everybody, the whole coaches,
everybody was there.
Oh, they about to jump you, man.
Nah, they weren't going to do that.
I told Lamar, all of them, he said, that's my friend.
I told him, you supposed to be helping your friend.
Nah, they, they, they know better.
Hey, Oak, Oak, you was the, you was the original Devo, man.
Well, I mean, once I tried you, my would told me don't wait for him go to him
Actually in the basketball setting words are just words. They really don't mean that outside outside of the court
They just saying it because on the court is a safe place. So they know needed. Hey, there's one thing
I don't play on the court and I don't play off the court
What you get I've been doing 30 plus years Yeah, he is exactly what he said believe if he said he goes slap the inch out you if he get closer
He gonna slap you. I like it. I like I like
Who that you live money to who that you lend money to in the card game?
And he didn't pay you back?
John Raheem.
Yeah!
John Raheem.
Yeah.
That happened at a game too.
He pay you back, he paid you back yet?
Well, he was trying not to,
but he said he was going through a divorce,
and then he said,
why, something happened, this and that.
I like, huh?
I said, I ain't living to your wife.
So, I got it right before the playoff though
Battle bad oh you was wild with on that one. I take this out time to talk about your next
Oh, the cell to strike back keep the season alive. Derek White had 34 points seven made three three blocks
He was nine 16 seven of 13 to 13, plus 22nd,
his second 30 point playoff game.
This playoffs, Jalen Brown was sensational as well.
Very efficient and 26 points, 12 assists, eight rebounds.
The Knicks lead three to two, game six is Friday.
What do your Knicks need to do to make sure
they don't have to go back to Boston for game seven?
Well, I think the antennas should be up because you know Taylor wasn't playing.
Brown, he was like a logician tonight and he got everybody involved.
He got Pritchett off the bed.
Luke Cornette came in down the way.
He was sensational. I think, you know, they just,
that was too X-factor off the bench.
And Bridges and OG, they got cranked the car up early.
It's cold outside, got to change the car.
You can't drive the car while it's cold.
So the Knicks gonna have to come out,
get more since early.
I think that Towns gonna have to play better.
And they gotta know, you gotta set them out six games going home
Forget about game five you lost, you know, they dominate the whole game went up 20 again 24 points and
You know, I think Kim should took the guys out with five minutes going to four
You weren't coming back 22 points in five minutes, right? But you know, Bronson foul
No, drew all, stepped this game up.
I mean, they, they came to play and when they best play like Curry was missing
for golden state Taylor, mentioned for Boston, but Boston showed up.
Yeah.
They showed up and sold out.
You got Jaylen Brown had his most efficient game of the, uh, of this series.
He was nine of 17, three of five
from the three point line, he was 26, plus 28.
Derek White, nine of 16, seven of 13,
nine of 11 from the free throw line, plus 26.
Holliday, plus 14, he was a plus 23.
You got Al Horford, who was plus 11.
And then you mentioned Luke Cornett came off the bench.
He gave you 10, nine, and 7 blocks and Pritchett was
plus 24. He had one of the highest plus minus. He was 5 of 14, 17 big points. So they got the
contributions that they needed in order to keep the series alive. We expected Mikael Bridges.
Remember the other night Ocho? How he went off? Remember OG, how he went off?
Carl Anthony Towns played extremely well.
Cat played okay, five of 11.
I don't think he was aggressive enough.
I mean, he had shot nine free throws, five of 11 shots.
He got eight of them in the last six minutes.
They didn't count.
Okay.
You gotta get him in the beginning of the 34th quarter.
And you know, but-
Put pressure on the Celtics.
Cat gotta come out and put some pressure on K.P.
You know, he's he hurt.
But Luke came in and changed the whole game.
He didn't really change the game blocking shot.
Keeping the ball line making them take tough shot coming to the basket,
you know, and Robinson was playing well tonight.
He made three throws.
He did like he's perfect for the free throw line Oak. coming to the basket, you know, and Robinson was playing well tonight. He made a street throw. Yeah, he did.
He was like, cross one of them.
He's perfect for the street throw line, Oak.
Yeah, he made like six out of seven, something like that.
Yeah, 66.
So he started off playing well.
It basically just, they let him get two for a head.
I mean, how many times you gotta run it down the horse?
The horse slams on you.
Yeah, yeah.
Gordon and Joe, what'd you like about what you saw?
Cause I didn't think the Celtics,
I didn't think the Celtics, like hell,
y'all was losing to the Knicks with Jason Tatum,
and he had 42 in that beach hit.
And so I don't think they was gonna do anything,
but Derek White and Jalen Brown set the tone early,
and then their role players came in.
Luke Cornette, like I said, he gave you 10, nine, and seven.
Prichard did what he normally does.
And so now I got my contributors, they contributing.
But listen, the contributors are contributing
on the offense end, but we need to talk about
on the defense end, on what they did.
They stifled the damn offense for the Knicks.
They made everything when it came to Jalen Bronson
getting himself in rhythm and creating shots
and being able to pass the ball.
They suffocated my dog all goddamn game.
When Ocho started, you see where they started, I'm not gonna cut you off, Ocho.
You see how they started on it? They put Jalen Brown on it.
Somebody with a little extra mint.
Right.
Because normally they was going with Holliday,
they was going with Derek White.
They put J.B. on it. J.B. did an excellent job.
He's a little bit six foot seven, long limb,
caused a little bit more problems.
He was seven to 17, one to four from the three-point line.
Go ahead, Ocho.
I'm just saying, obviously from an offense standpoint,
Brunson couldn't get his self in rhythm.
And also it seemed like every time they were trying
to run plays, it seemed like every shot was contested.
Every shot of running the offense,
it was very difficult for them to do.
And on the other end in transition, offensively,
the goddamn Celtics was hitting all the goddamn shots
So when they did go up 15 and went up went up 20 or whatever it may have been
It made it that much more difficult for the Knicks to even get back into the game
Oh, they couldn't back in the game because defense
You let how they get back into the game and begin the fourth quarter here two big threes in a row
Yeah, you bring them down to 15 14 here. He come back. Bam. Bam. Bam
It was gonna be a dog fight that
Witness in the night
Because boss was just they would make them size like you said and they were all play out play excellent. Yes
Excellent. I got a question for you real quick. I'm honest with me Obviously yo, yo
Yo basketball acumen and in IQ is out this world because you played the game at the highest level
Do you think the Celtics have a chance to come back and win this series? I mean
If they can keep the game close
I mean the Knicks I think when they come home the crowd gonna be there
They can't let the think the crowd's gonna play for them.
They gotta come out and play, execute early,
put the pressure on Boston.
Go down here, don't give them a chance to breathe.
And then get them in foul trouble,
like I said, get to the free goal line.
But they gonna come, Boston gonna come and fight.
I mean, they ain't champions for nothing.
So we got, New York gonna realize that, you know,
anything can happen in the course of a game,
you know, you don't want nobody to go down, but still, you
still got to come out.
You guys got to show up.
The Knicks starting five, got to show up on a three, sky showed up tonight.
You need all five of them to play.
It's a band.
Everybody got to be on that point.
Everybody got to be able to play the instrument.
So are you worried?
Are you confident?
Are you confident in the Knicks?
I'm confident.
I mean, it's two to win one, but you got to get the first.
They need to win the one game six.
Don't say well, we made mistakes.
Don't chance it.
You don't wanna go back to Boston.
No.
You know, what Jayden Brown showed the night, IQ,
he can play a game.
Everybody was coercing, Kenny step it up,
Jason Taylor's not here.
He stepped it up and stepped on the Knicks.
Yeah, he did.
The Knicks, I mean, the Knicks shot 40 free throw attempts.
So they were getting to the foul line.
Um, they, they didn't shoot the ball particularly well.
And then they like, you know what, because I think what they're at three
straight trips down, Brunson got to the foul line and he's very crafty at
drawing fouls and if it's a close ball game, that's what you have to worry about.
He's so great in the clutch.
He's probably the best player in the clutch in the NBA
because he knows how to, he can shoot the three,
he can get to the minute, he can get to the rim,
and he knows how to get, make you violent.
To put him on the free throw line to stop the clock
and so give you guys a chance to chase you down.
But you're right, I thought what Boston did tonight.
Now, if you let them shoot 20,
you let them shoot 45% from the three and they shoot as many threes as they shot. You will have your hands full.
Be honest they shot in the low 40s tonight. They shot 45% 22 of 49.
Yeah. So they outscored you by 30 though. Yeah well I think the Knicks only made
seven for 29 something. 12 or 30.
It was what?
12 or 30.
12 or 30.
So, I mean, they beat them in that.
They beat them in, they beat them just about every caliber.
So they got to realize that they got to come out and play.
They got to eat their lunch early blotches, and be ready. He he he he he he.
All right.
They ain't gonna be easy.
["Dreamin'"]
Hey, hey, Ope, they got, hey, hey, uh,
is there a better way, I'm just talking about for me,
you know, watching the game,
it looks like every offensive possession for the Knicks, it's a struggle just to create a shot or to even get a shot.
And when they do get it, it's always contested.
Somebody in draped over somebody or they
falling back and like nothing is ever just clean.
Nothing is ever just smooth.
They run an offense basically off of what Bronson can do.
And everybody else, you know, they get stagnated sometimes.
And I think that, um, towns got to go through the post.
He, when him being around the top of the key three quarter line, he
crowd the whole thing up.
He needed to go on the baseline and post up and take some of the
pressure off the guys up top.
Right.
But like you said, the guys, they do be doing, see like, you know, it was a tough
start, but the one thing they do do on offense,
they get second starts and they huff.
They crash the boards.
They crash the board.
And the thing you have no choice like with anybody,
it's like if you play with Luca,
you find yourself because he's so ball-dominated
and handling the ball, you find yourself watching him.
No, bro, hey, get your ass out of the way,
create some space because you watching him and then all of a sudden,
he throw you the ball.
Because a lot of times, they throw the guys
that handle the ball a lot, they throw you the ball
with five seconds on the clock.
Nah, bro.
You go ahead and keep it.
Now you want me to try to work magic with five,
six seconds on the clock.
And I got to take a bad shot at everybody looking at me.
Like, come on, old Joe.
Bro, you got to make that shot.
Bro, what you mean I got to make this shot?
I'm 28 feet from the basket.
He just threw it to me with five seconds.
But this is their offense.
This is who they are.
You know, Josh Hart is not really looking for his shot.
And it seems like Mikael Bridges doesn't look
for his shot until late.
So basically two guys that's trying to create offense
is Kat and Brunson.
And that was, and now once he gets held to scale, the guys start looking for the
shot, but look at how, uh, uh, McKell bridges when he looks for his shot early,
how it looks, look at how the office look.
Well, I mean, that's the thing.
Like when they, when they, they start, uh, him and OG started, but it starts early.
I think they take time out of his office, but you want to keep them going
He ain't that guy that you know, he need a temp. Yes, the mother guys got more
I'm gonna tenacity or rebound to get back put back towels
You need to get him going you go out and get him going gang stick cuz he played better you when he did the ball early
He played better. We don when he get the ball early, he played better. If he don't get it, his game gets stagnant. So Brosson being a great point guard, the flow general on the team.
He had to realize that let's get tiles off early and everything could flow.
You look at McKenna Bridges, OG Al-Anobi and Kat, they were 10 for 37.
That's not good enough.
No, no, no.
What's that?
I think OG was what?
One for 13?
One for 12.
12?
Hey!
One for five from the three.
McKell Bridges, four, 14 from the field.
One of three from the three.
Cat was five of 11.
Cat just didn't have a lot of attempts.
He got to the fire line, but he just didn't have 11 attempts.
He needed to be somewhere at about 17, eight, somewhere 17 to 20.
Yeah. 17 to 20. That's where he needs to be somewhere about 17, eight, somewhere 17 to 20. Yeah. 17 to 20.
That's where he needs to be at.
But if you look, like I said, Tim's is a, is a defensive coach.
You let a team shoot 53%.
You let him shoot 45% from the three.
I mean, Al Horford, five or seven holiday, five of eight, Derek White, nine
of 16, Brown nine of 17, coordinate was five 5 of 5, Pritchett, he wasn't efficient,
but he made some big time to threes.
But he hit some big shots down in the 4-4.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you live with that.
I mean, he had a couple step backs and snatches.
But look, I thought the Knicks was gonna end it tonight
because you don't wanna chance it.
And that's why Boston is probably kicking themselves.
They're like, man, had we taken care of business
the first two games, now we just need one game
to possibly close this series out.
But we're gonna have to beat this team three times
without Jason Tatum.
That's a tall order. That's a tall order.
Can it be done? Yes.
But I ain't putting any money that means something to me down
that they can do it.
You don't want to bet nothing on?
Hell no.
Hey Oak, you want to bet something?
What?
Let's bet 5200 on the game.
What you got, Boston?
Yeah, I got Boston.
When? Game six?
Yeah, game six. What you trying to do?
Well, you call the hot bullet. Well, yeah, make it light on yourself, trying to do? Well, you call it, I'll call it.
Well, yeah, make it light on yourself, baby.
What you doing?
Hey, hey, you owe, Oka, get Oka his money now, okay?
Hey, Shannon now.
Hey, hey, hey, Chad, you know I'm from Cleveland now.
Oh, I know.
Hey, with nothing but respect, I don't want no problems.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm just telling you, I'm a latest line.
Uncle come sleep by his buddy.
I got some guys down in Cincinnati right around the corner.
Oh yeah.
I just throw the water on Cincinnati.
You won't even get high.
Hey, that's one thing about Uncle, now he will drive.
He got a van on his car.
That's one thing about Uncle, he ain't afraid to drive.
That's what I'm gonna be driving.
Cleveland, New York.
When you pay 200,000 for a car,
I'm gonna be trying to put 200 miles on it.
He does.
I'm trying to wear my dollars, let it be my miles.
Oh man.
He ain't lying.
Cause hey, old motor car for me, a 760 BMW.
Man, he came to me, he's like, hey, man,
I brought the car, he's at the fourth season,
the old fourth season, right up there at Buckhead.
He's like, yeah, I will get it.
So he had me a bag full of money.
He said, man, keep the insurance on it
till I get to where I'm going.
I believe that I'm gonna need it till Tuesday.
I need you to keep the insurance till Tuesday.
And he just, I said, man, where you going?
He's like, man, I'm going to keep this shirt till Tuesday. And he just, I said, man, where you going? He like, man, I'm going to Alabama.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was good old days.
He will put that car on the road.
Oh, yeah.
Let me know what you think about this.
Nick Van Exel has a theory on the increased Achilles tears.
He said, there have been an Achilles tear
throughout the years, but my thoughts on them
is that they happen more now than I think
if something has to do with them damn
lows the players wearing nowadays. Cover them ankles up, fellas. My thoughts on them is that they happen more now than I think is something has to do with them, shoot them damn lows.
The players wearing now they cover them ankles up fellas.
You think it has something to do with the shoe guys are wearing? And what do you think the problem is?
I mean, a lot of guys getting hurry wearing low tops now they just choose
shoes, but when you play a ball, you gotta, you gotta be tightened up and
yeah, ball safeties, this and that.
But they like, they're doing more running too.
They getting up and down the court more,
they turning more.
We used to play up and down,
not as fast sideways and up and down.
So it ain't physical, but you still getting up and down.
You put miles on them shoes.
Let me ask you a question though.
Did you, did you, did guys, did guys tape their ankles?
Do guys tape their ankles or do they play free?
I don't think they tape.
I think we've played 90% tape.
Now it's probably 20% tape.
Cause when we play, if you get hurt,
if your ankle get twisted and you can't play,
they gonna fine you.
They don't do that no more.
Oh yeah.
They just fine guys.
So that's why most guys in our era,
they play with the ankles, you know,
so ankles are just a mess,
cause they was taped.
But now they tape, they don't give them tape,
and they twist them,
they gotta get them in two or three weeks.
Yeah. Right.
Cause I got, I don't know how,
you, did you tape your ankles on Joe?
Yeah, for fashion.
Not, not, not for no, no support.
You got in, I like to feel the ground, uh?
I can't feel the ground with tape on my ankles.
I need to be flexible in a sense.
You know, I was with Reebok at that time.
You know, Reebok had the uniforms and stuff, right?
I had him take all the cushion and what you call it?
The lining out of my shoe.
Yoes.
My cleat was nothing but a shell and some shoe. I need to feel everything on it was like I had a track spy
You want like a soccer shoot exactly. I need I need to feel the floor every time I touch the floor
So we played the pan around we had to take me shoot around
What?
Yeah, we had to take some time and shoot around.
If we lose a game by 20 points or something, we had to get, they shoot around, we had to
come and take because we'd rather have to do a size and all.
Yeah, Fat.
Fat Brown, they make sure you're going to say, fight it fast, everything.
Wait, suicide at the NBA level because you lose a game?
I mean, it felt like that, yeah.
Yeah.
That's how he, you know, yeah, he were,
hey, he get all the balls on them shoes.
Achilles and ACL injury this season alone.
De'Jonte Murray tore his Achilles.
Dane tore his.
Jason Tatum tore his.
Isaiah Jackson tore his Achilles.
Drew Smith ruptured his Achilles
Kyrie Grant Williams the Anthony Melton and Maurice Wagner both all tore ACL with them and Grant Williams had meniscus damage
I take I take but I take that to my directly to my skin. Yeah, I would take directly to my
Huh, you got no pre-wrap. I got no pre-wrap? Huh? You ain't got no pre-wrap?
I ain't got no pre-wrap.
I got mold skin.
You know that thick mold skin.
You know that thick tape?
Yeah.
I had the mold skin.
And then I had that brown tape, old joke.
You know that brown tape, you got to take the scissors to cut.
Okay, okay.
That's what I meant.
That's how I tape my ankles.
Okay, okay.
Mom.
I ain't have no pre-wrap.
No pre-wrap.
No.
I thought that was the thin, the thickest sound.
No, I had that brown, tough the thin. No, I had that I had that brown tough-ass tape
They had to take the scissors to cut. Oh, I know what you talk about. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, my ankles were bad man. I couldn't I couldn't chance it. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Wow. No, I didn't take that
That's in the game. Now. I did I did regular tape in practice, right?
But here's the thing. Oh, I want to go in the game a lot though. Yeah, but see the thing was is that I
Wore I wore how to I wore
Millions and then later in my career. I went to the low
Okay
But see cut but I didn't roll my ankle like a lot of people roll the ankle over the top
I would turn mine in.
Ah.
So people would fall over, would drag me down on your,
and the ankle roll in.
I know what you're talking about.
Because they're pulling you from behind too, huh?
Yes. Yeah.
And they're putting their weight on you.
They're putting their weight on you.
That hip drop tackle.
Yeah, they put their weight on you.
Yes.
Because you're getting caught right underneath.
Yep.
I think we play guard like point guards to guard
by what low but all the big guys they weren't high. I know they wouldn't wear
no low top. If somebody sees a paint with low top they gonna knock you in the head.
But then, you remember when we go, you a little older than me, but you remember Chuck Taylor's.
Guy used to play Chuck Taylor's get up and down and have no cushion
Never twist no ankle
Them so they were like number them pro kids. Yeah
No support. Yeah
Hey, I played uncle no guy played on
With Geron in it's with boots and Philly and our gilly gilly was there too. And they had a celebrity basketball game I played in. I wore black high tops,
black high top chucks, some Chuck Taylors. And they looking at me crazy. Everybody else,
I didn't know what the Kyries and the KDs and the LeBrons and the, you know, and the Jordans.
Man, I dropped by 12 out there, man, in a pair of chucks. I'm moving and everybody else,
we ain't got your shoes taped up?
No, because when I'm wearing them Chuck Taylors,
I can feel the flow.
I can feel everything.
And it just, it felt so comfortable.
And everybody looking at me like,
boy, you crazy, boy, you gonna twist something.
Say, man, I'm good.
Dr. J's the way I am.
Yeah, Dr. J's back in the days.
And then they came out the cars,
because you know, when Dr. J, everybody wore the cons.
Ain't nobody wore, in the early 80s,
ain't nobody, in the 70s and the 80s,
ain't nobody wore Nike.
Nike didn't take off till Jordan got there.
Everybody wore the cons, the Dr. J cons,
they wore the Magic Johnson weapons,
they wore the Larry Bird weapon.
What you mean weapon?
What brand is it?
That's what they call the Converse.
That's what Magic and Byrd would call.
And the Dr. J. Conns.
They were heavy, but that's what everybody wore.
And then there are a few guys that wore like Iceman,
Moses Malone had Nike contracts.
But the Converse was the shoe.
The only person I remember wearing Adidas,
oh correct me if I'm wrong, was Kareem. Kareem had the top 10 Adidas. He was the only guy that I saw
with Adidas. Everybody else normally had Converse and there were a few guys sprinkled in there that
had on Nikes. Hey, did they wear pony back in the days? Pony had basketball shoes and all.
Spud Weld wore ponies. Yeah, it's a far word, Pony.
Spud Weld and Robert Parrish wore ponies.
OK.
OK.
I remember I had a pair of Pony cleats, man,
as a little kid, man.
I had Pony cleats, too.
Pony was big back then.
Oh, yeah.
Pony was big back then.
They were.
They were.
But you know, back then, when I was
like in middle school,
the high school, the posters. So you had the Ice Man sitting on the block of ice. Yeah.
The poster was huge back then. I had a bunch of posters. You know, I had a bunch of posters
with Bird and I had a bunch of posters with everybody else. They'd probably be worse up than
now. But back then, you weren't even thinking.
You weren't even thinking about,
man, they gonna be worth something.
My grandma's like, well, you need to throw that ish
in the trash, juggle it up my house.
All right, it's time to pocket watch for just a second.
Michael Porter Jr., Shay Gilgis,
make the same amount of money.
$35,859,950 dollars this year.
Did you hear what you just said?
They make the same amount of money.
And the key words you just said at the end.
This year.
This year.
And that's it.
Cause S.A.G can get 350 next year.
Ooh.
Yep.
And he fired his agent.
So he's like, I don't need y'all.
Y'all not gonna get a 4% when they gonna give me the max anyway.
Right. I cut you out. I keep that for myself.
Aoki worth every penny. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Worth every penny, man. Yeah.
Hey, you know who you play like to, huh? He's so smooth. Yeah, he's so smooth, like no irky, jerky movements.
You know what I mean?
Just everything just flow like water the way you play.
I know the Clippers probably wasn't still happening.
Well, if you were to believe what Doc said,
Doc said that he went to Kawhi and said,
you need to give this guy a chance.
Kawhi wanted somebody that was already proven,
which was Paul George.
So that's why they moved him to OKC.
They traded him and Gala Nari and those,
all those first round picks and those pick swaps,
because you got to realize,
Shay was only in his like first to second,
maybe his first to second year.
Yeah, second year, yeah.
So now I got to get, I want to get, it's the same thing. When LeBron got to Cleveland, Shay was only in his like first or second, maybe his first or second year. Yeah. Second year, yeah.
So now I gotta get, I wanna get up,
it's the same thing, when LeBron got to Cleveland,
he's like, oh no, he's like, nah, I don't want Andrew Wiggins.
Go get Kevin Love.
Go get Kevin Love.
Damn, but Wiggins ain't got way as he tells me.
No, he ain't Shay.
They both from Canada, but he ain't Shay.
Right, but he ain't Shay.
Hey, hold on.
Hold on. Barry from Canada too. He ain't shade. Right, but they ain't shade. Hey, hold on. Hold on.
Hey, uh.
Barry from Canada, too.
He ain't shade.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
They got a lot of guys.
You know, you think about it.
Dillon Brooks, Nim Hard, Murray, Shay, Powell.
They got a Barrett.
Joe.
The kid played for what's the name, too?
The point guard.
Joe suit, I'd say Joe
No, I play it been around the league by 12 years. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know you talking about
My thing, okay. Yeah
But you see what they try to do in here for the all-star, right?
Yeah, they will try to make it the US against the world. I'm gonna go kill the US
the US against the world. Man, they gonna kill the US.
Hey, they got the best players when you think about it.
They got Yannis, they got Luca, they got Shay.
But you know why they're doing that?
Luca, Luca, Luca, he be coming out the bit.
Hey, O, that's a good thing too. Now you understand how the viewership hadn't declined
when it comes to the All-Star game.
Now you wanna make it interesting
and you want people to watch?
Shoot, the USA versus the world.
That's right, shoot because I don't wanna see it.
All they're doing is shooting threes.
I don't wanna see that.
I don't wanna see no 200 to 180
No, no, no, and it's about whether now I think I think they might get a little more traction out of that because
Yeah, cuz the u.s. Guys and they know the European guys you the European guys definitely go play harder
You have got my you might have to hear me the head comes out like oh wow
They really come at us. So yeah, they might have to hear him in the head a couple times like, oh wow, they really coming at us. So they might have to wake us up and get going.
Yeah.
First of all, Yokel already said the All-Star game
doesn't suit his fancy, but Yanis,
Yanis trying to get to try to score 60.
Yanis going to the basket all the time.
He coming to play.
He coming to you exactly right.
You know what they remind me of?
They remind me when Adrian Peterson used to make the Pro Bowl and they think he's going
to go out there and play in Lolligag.
Man, Adrian Peterson's full speed in Hawaii.
Full speed.
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