Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Timberwolves CLAW BACK vs Nuggets + Hawks STUN Knicks + Cavs IN CONTROL vs Raptors + Wemby wins DPOY UNANIMOUSLY + Kevin Durant INJURED in PRACTICE

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Minnesota Timberwolves coming back from 19 down to beat the Denver Nuggets to tie the series 1-1, the Atlanta Hawk...s win game 2 on the road and beat the New York Knicks to tie the series 1-1, and the Cavaliers beat the Raptors to go up 2-0 in the series and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP   03:50 - Wolves beat Nuggets 26:15 - Hawks beat Knicks in Game 2 45:05 - Cleveland beat Raptors 56:55 - Wemby is the Unanimous DPOY 1:09:15 - Kevin Durant (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clivert Show on the I-Hard Radio app,
Starting point is 00:00:27 Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far. But I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking.
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Starting point is 00:01:58 I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like, Definitely happening in the WBA. We talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to their side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games. Check out Game Recognized game with Stuy and Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:05:43 Rudy Gobert, I thought this was the first time that I've actually seen someone actually bother Nicola Yokic. Rudy Gober bothered him tonight, Joe. And this was one of the reasons that they won. And Rudy, hey, the last couple of games, you only had two points, but your presence were greatly, greatly felt. Ant-Man was Aunt Man, Jew Randall did what Jew Randall does. I mean, they just got an all-around team effort tonight.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And that was the difference in the ball game if they go in and get a 119, 114 victory over the number nuggets. And now, Joe said the series doesn't start to the road team wins a game on the opposing teams court and both road teams, two of the three road teams tonight, one on the opposing team home court. Joe, how did Minnesota do it? They were down by 19 in the second quarter and all of a sudden you look up and they're tied at half. Hey, man, they, there may no dogs over there, Uncle Ocho. They got some young wolves over there. You hear me? Huh? Hey. Hey, man, the resiliency that they showed in that first half to get down by, what, 18, 19 points,
Starting point is 00:06:51 and then come back and fight back and take the league. And from there, you know, pretty much manage the game throughout. I want to give a huge shout out to Rudy Goldberg and the challenge that he took. Making Yokish take them tough shots off. That's what it's about. Not only that, but you see what Minnesota game plan is, Yokic, we ain't going to let your ass rest on defense. No. No, we're going to seek you out in this picking road.
Starting point is 00:07:12 We're going to go at you every time. You're going to have to guard and you're going to have to score, assists. They make them work, man. Hey, them boys look good tonight, man. I thought what they did, I thought in the first half guys, Yoke, just watching him, he was really trying to get everybody involved.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Joe, he really wasn't doing anything. And then all of a sudden... He didn't shoot. He didn't take his first shot to about three minutes in the first quarter. And then you go look at Rudy gets some foul trouble in the third quarter, and they bring Nas Reed in. And all of a sudden, he started hunting. I think he scored 16, 17 points in the third quarter
Starting point is 00:07:45 because he started running out. He's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, you got no chance. You ain't got no bricks in your back pocket. Even though Rudy might not have bricks in his back pocket, he has lint that could disturb me, that can bother me. You see tonight, eight of 20, one of seven from the three. You can live with that. You can live with that number.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And he only had eight assists. So if I'm going to make him insufficient, and I'm not going to allow him to have double digits, Does that mean other guys are getting clean, easy looks? Yeah. I can live with that. I just got one question, Joe, Ocho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I'm trying to figure out what Jamar Murr was thinking. They're down three. He gets to pick from Yokic and has a shot at a clean three. He passes it up to walk inside and take a two. He had to be confused and thought they were down by two. There is no other way to explain what he did. Yeah, I think he was. I don't know what he was thinking on that play, honestly.
Starting point is 00:08:39 But, man, he looked great in their first quarter. Obviously, shooting 11 for 25. If I'm Minnesota, I'm going to live with that. Yes. You know what I mean? We're making all them. We're making them dudes work, man. We're limiting everybody else.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Hardaway came off the bench and gave you great production. But for the most part, man, you just got to handle them two monsters. And if you can collectively have guys from the Minnesota Timberwood step up, Nogh, I like the Desamu kid from the Bulls. I love the energy that he played with. You know what I mean? Bowls, Holland was good tonight. Bones Highlo was big because he was the key.
Starting point is 00:09:16 He and the Somu, they were the key in the second quarter to get them back in the ball game. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead, Ocho, what you like? I mean, shit, tonight game, got damn, the wolves. The wolves played really good. Unk, they were down, they were down back.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Hell, a whole heave of a lot. You know, in the first half, I thought it was going to be one of those games. I'm going to just be honest with you, Unk. I thought I was going to turn it off. And, you know, in the second quarter, I thought it was going to be a blowout. Not only were they losing by 17, 18 at one point, Yogis wasn't even doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:46 He wasn't even doing nothing. He was just facilitating. He hadn't even inserted himself into the ball game yet. Hell, I get up. I go to goddamn Waffle House. I come back. But, hey, Joe, the game tied up. The game is tied up.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Let's talk about, you know, the word you use, resiliency. I can't even spell it, but I know how to say it. And that's what the Bull's word tonight. God damn ant man is going to always be Ant Man. DeVicenzo? but he came to play ball. God damn Julius Randall came to play ball. Listen, Rudy Gailer,
Starting point is 00:10:16 didn't give you nothing on offense, but defensively using that length to disrupt everything that your Joker wanted to do was phenomenal. Now, if we can get him to play like this every goddamn night, you know, maybe now on the defense's end on the defense end always making things difficult for Yolkits,
Starting point is 00:10:34 I think they got a good chance. Maybe not to win the series, but it takes them young bulls the goddamn seven. You don't think Minnesota got a chance to win? Yeah, yeah. The series, Joe? Yeah. This is what they did last time.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Hey, hold on. I understand what you talk about. Now, one of the missing pieces of the night for the goddamn nuggets now, Aaron Gordon, we need something from you now, baby. Aaron, we need, we need more from you outside of nine goddamn points now. Hey, hey, I've seen a lot of wolves tonight. I mean, I'm talking about dudes that were just relentless. It was like almost on some real Debo backyard basketball type.
Starting point is 00:11:14 You know what I'm saying? Like for real, Ocho, you know, like I always tell y'all, you know, in the playoffs, bro, we already know your plays. Now we just got to match this energy that y'all got. You know playing in Denver, it's tough. It's tough playing up there in the house. You got some guys on hands on knees. What?
Starting point is 00:11:30 I'm talking first quarter. First quarter, you'd be gassing for air. So I know what it takes to go in that building and win, bro. and, man, Denver a tough team, but the Timberwolves, this is what I'm talking about. When you had them other guys step up, when your bench play like that, Highland, Osamu, and Reed, all those guys chip in with 10, 11, 12 point. And you got your big, uh, Ant Man leading away. Minnesota going to be tough to be, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:56 If I can make, if I can make Jamar Murray and Yokic shoot a combined 19 to 45, I can live with that. I know they had 50 points, but it would be inefficient. The inefficiency in which they shot the basketball. I live with that. Yonke's going to give you 24 points on 20 shots, I live with that. If Jamar Burr is going to give you 30 points on 25 shots, I live with that. But I can't have Yokin give me your 24 or 11 shots.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I can't have Jamar Murray going to the free throw line and shooting 17, 18 free throws. So they did a great job. Remember, Joe, he shot 16, what was 16 to 16? He was 2 or 2 for that. Yeah. So Finch, like that. Like, hey, man, if we keep his ass off the line, if he makes tough shots, we got to live with that. Got to live with that.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Got to. Got to. I mean, think about it. He had two and one threes in the first quarter. They had three and one threes in the first quarter. And they were stood there. Valanchunis, if you notice, Valanchunis didn't play anymore after that bulljave he pulled in the second quarter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And it cost him the game late in the ball game because when Yoke was on the bitch, they couldn't get any offensive rebounds. They can't get any deep as a rebounds. So now the second chance points started to pile up, all because they had lost confidence in Valentunas because he was out of their bulljabbing around. Picking up dumb files, getting technical calls. He was just doing on some bull drives, and he didn't see the floor game.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Hey, I'm giving it. I like Jayton Daniels. Let me tell you why. Him and Rudy Gaubert are very keys to Minnesota winning this series. I'm gonna tell y'all why. Because of their length, they're both long and great defenders. And if they can stay disciplined like they were disciplined in night, okay, Ocho, not going for a lot of them, pumpfakes and all that,
Starting point is 00:13:45 contesting late, making yoghs shoot all them tough shots. Hell, making Murray take over 25, taking 25 shots or more, bro. You're gonna be in a little with that, you're gonna make it work. Because remember now, Murray got out to that hot start. He had 23 in the first half, Joe. Yeah, but in the first quarter, hell, he was hot as fish. Yeah. That's why Yogish really wasn't shooting.
Starting point is 00:14:07 He's seen how hot he was. He didn't want to mess with him up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought Jay McDaniels kind of wore him down, too. That's what I'm playing. By chasing him, making it tough for him, picking him up. And that's what you got to expect when it comes late in the games, bro. That extended pressure is what's going to help you prevail if you got guys who can play that type of defense for 48 minutes.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I thought Aaron Gore and took some fours, some shots, some three. I thought Jamar Murray, the frustration and the fatigue started a mound on them and they took some really tough shots that was uncalled. There's no way you taking a double-pump clutch, a three-point shot. You can't tell me there's not a better shot to be had than what you just did, Jamar Murray. Ain't no way in here. I mean, airballed it.
Starting point is 00:14:55 You can't tell me there's not a better shot to be had if you swing it one more time. And, hey, maybe swinging and it comes back to you. But I thought, look, and it wasn't. Even though you can say, okay, Yoke and Murray didn't play well, where there had to be a reason. Okay, what was the reason that they didn't play well, Minnesota and Timberwoods? Now, you look at Rudy and people go like, well, how y'all, y'all keep talking about Rudy? The man had two points and no blocks, and he was a four-time defensive player of the year.
Starting point is 00:15:21 But all those shots that he altered, you look at Yokic. Yolkich felt his presence. All those guys coming to the lane, they felt his presence. Sometimes it's not about blocking the shot. Sometimes it's about making you think, no, no, I ain't got no. Let me pull this thing back out. Whereas before, Yokic was having his way with Rudy Goldberg. And for the better part of his career, he's had his way.
Starting point is 00:15:45 But not tonight. Rudy, Rudy deserved a game. Joe, you said it. Jew Randall played well. He was 7 or 14. Jade McDaniel, 7 or 15. Dante Jiminchenzo, that big three that he pulled up from like 24, 25 was huge. He had 16 big points.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Ant Man had 30 Nas Reid had 11, Bones Island had 13. But Rudy Goldberg, those two points, what you were able to do against Yokic. That was the key, the difference in the ball game.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Because if you let him be efficient, he took 20 shots. So if he shoot his normal 57%, that means he's going to make 13 or 14 of those, Joe. Right. So now all of a sudden that's 24, it's going to be 32, 34. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:35 15 and 8. Now we might be having a different discussion. But the Minnesota Timber Wolf, y'all dug deep. Y'all showed me something that's like a quarter. Now, listen, we talk about them digging deep. Obviously, you look at the series being tied one-one. If I'm not mistaken, I think both of y'all, if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I am wrong. When we talked about this series, I could have swore both of you picked the Nuggets to win.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Because I've got, it might have been you going to say, I'm not betting against Joker. If I'm, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not betting on you. the Nuggets. No, I don't think I mean, we got to run the tape back, but I don't think I won't think I might have to be, I'm just saying after seeing the game tonight, after seeing the way the Timber Wolves played, does your decision on the goddamn Nuggets winning this series? Does it change now based on the way the wolves played?
Starting point is 00:17:23 What do you think? For me, no, because I don't believe Rudy Gobert can play like this three more games. Okay. Well, that's yet to be seen. I think, but that is questionable. Can, can Minnesota, can they carbon copy a game like this again? You know, you got home court advantage now. So can you go home, protect your house?
Starting point is 00:17:47 That's basically all you need to do now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's what. I mean, look, but I think the thing is you've got to be careful. Because if you're not careful, you'll have a letdowns and say, oh, we got, we did, we did what we came to do. Right. which was still a game and get home court.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And I bid damn if you don't go home and let your guard down and they take it right back. So the thing is now, and 10 is what you do, you break serve, can you consolidate it? Right. You break somebody serve, now can you win the next service game? Now you put pressure on them. Now, if you let them, you can consolidate it,
Starting point is 00:18:22 what have you done? You let them take home court right back. Yeah, and that's the thing. That's what you don't want to do. Because, you know, when you, hey, when you're playing on the road, It's just you and your team. You feel me? Like, you know it ain't nobody else out there with y'all.
Starting point is 00:18:36 It's just y'all. So you know you got that. You feel me? Ain't nobody really in your space? You know what I mean? Meaning like your family, maybe your wife, your girl, your kids, all that. But, man, when you get back home, you know, all that's now, you know, now you're back picking up kids from school and you're doing all this extra stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm keeping it real, bro. And then you start to let your guard down a little bit. And now in game three, you're like, damn. We did all that for nothing. You let your guard down, Joe, because you know why? You're at home. You're comfortable. You don't got comfortable.
Starting point is 00:19:08 You know what I'm saying? When you on the road, that ain't your bed. Hey, you get your ass up. You walk downstairs, you eat breakfast. You know, you go to shoot around, you know what I'm saying, on the road. But now you're in your whip. You drive into the stadium, listen to your tombs. You're doing all the stuff that you don't normally do on the road.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So you don't got comfortable. Whereas before you weren't comfortable. And so they come in, they flip the road. They're uncomfortable. They're desperate. They know that they, hey, in order, because now Minnesota said, all we got to do is just hold serve. We ain't got to win another game in Denver. All we got to do is hold serving home, and we're good.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Hey, boy, I can see, I can see Kevin Gardening in there right now. Okay. Yeah, Joe, Joe, Joe, you own it. But Joe, you know something, don't you? Yeah, I've been trying to tell you. And that one thing about it, but Joe, Joe, this is one game. What?
Starting point is 00:20:08 It's one game. It's just a guy. We got more games to talk about, but this jazz is just one game. But we end up the playoffs start. When a team wins or when a team wins away. Hello. Joe, I'm with you, Joe. I'm with you, Joe.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Hey, we got some bad. We're playing some basketball. Hey, Joe, matter of fact, hey, you're smart. But you know something about this thing. It almost act like you played before, huh? Yeah, hey, hey, listen, listen. I didn't have my fair show at Ocho. I kind of, I know a little something.
Starting point is 00:20:39 You know what I mean? Yeah. It looked like it. Yeah. Hey, you in the hole, too, by the way. Whoa, whoa. I wait, I wait, I wait, I wait, go ahead. I wait.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh, yeah, I just thought, I just thought, I mean, I was thinking the same thing. Everybody was thinking. They got out to that great start. What they scored 37, 39 points in the, first quarter, you're up 19 and the second quarter. And then all of a sudden, you get bones, holland, you get the soul mood, you get those guys come in, and they chip away. And before you know it, a 19-4-D, and all of a sudden, it's eight.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And all of a sudden, it's four. And all of a sudden, you're like, hold on, they don't care back a damn tuck to lead. Now the Nuggets got to scrap back to the tightest thing up to go into the half. Yeah. I'm like, what, damn. But Valanchunas, bro, you pull your pants down the night, man. That was awful. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:21:30 He played three minutes. There's a reason why. You play a Yonich. He's supposed to be coming in because he's a big that can score if need be. He can, hey, he can set great picks. He can rebound the basketball. What was that? Man out there playing.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Pick their two quick file. Hey, boy, hey, look. And in three minutes down for. Hey, if I'm, if I'm Ant Man and Drew Randall, boy, I'm thinking the bench, Nise Reed. Bones, Highland, to Samu, I'm thinking Rudy Goldberg, because listen, them dudes won you that game today. Now, you know, we're going to need him and Amman to step up.
Starting point is 00:22:11 You go home, your big guns got a fire for you. Because your role players did what they're supposed to do on the road, Joe. Man, man, man. Hey, that was huge, bro. Hey, but you do. But I do expect the road guys to play a little better at home, too. I know this is a good game for him, but I expect one of them to, I expect Knives Reed to have a 20-point, 25,
Starting point is 00:22:31 five-point game in one of these, in one of these games, this series. Oh, Joe, Aaron going, got to give him a little bit more. Spencer Jones. Spencer Jones got some good cardio in there tonight.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Ten minutes, no points, no field goal attempts. He did get two rebounds, but he has a nice cardio, so he don't have to do any conditioning after the game, Joe. His legs nice and loose.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I thought Tim Hardaway, you and you play well, bro. Bro, how you go perfect from the three-point line and you miss your free throw? I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind,
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Starting point is 00:23:20 I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well,
Starting point is 00:23:31 Somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always.
Starting point is 00:24:01 always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fult and Our Stars.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And now, I guess also is the co-host of the away end, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game, and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was there most loyal and sometimes only. Only fan. I love this game.
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Starting point is 00:25:23 What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna-Sourt. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look
Starting point is 00:25:31 at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave, and then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like,
Starting point is 00:25:48 I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight for games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories.
Starting point is 00:26:07 They'll be like, Mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized game with Stuy and Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. I'm Taboramos. I'm Tom Vogue.
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Starting point is 00:27:01 It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen, inside American soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Damn, Frito. They got beat on the glass. I mean, you know, normally, Yolke's, he's giving you 13 a night.
Starting point is 00:27:34 He gave you 15 tonight. Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, they're getting good, good, I mean, I thought there was a big game from Tim Hardaway. They got some pretty good contribution from guys. Bruce Brown played well too, Joe. Yeah, he did. He did play well.
Starting point is 00:27:49 He did play well. But I just believe in Minnesota bench more than I do. The Nuggets. Minnesota, I'm for real, man, they got some guys who you can get to. They can go get you a bucket for real. Like, them boys, hey, boy, listen. Minnesota showed me something. Because who used to people?
Starting point is 00:28:10 Who you saying? Oh, yeah, you know he came from them. Yeah, you ain't hit the booze when he came in the game? Yeah, yeah, he felt like they sliding him over there. You know they're going to get his best. They let him hear it a little bit. Yeah, oh, yeah. No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But, you know, he wanted to play well. He did. He hit some big threes, four or five from the field, two or two from the free throw line. But, yeah, I mean, you look at their bench. They gave you 33 points. The bench gave you 33 points. Outscoring them by plus 10.
Starting point is 00:28:44 They out rebounding them, out assisted them, had more steel. Yeah, they outworked them. It was just what the first few minutes. The whole team went for the Timberwolves. The guys played well. And I think the thing is when you're on the road and you down, it's easy. Crowd is going crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 You've all been on the road and the home team get off to a great start. They jump out on a show, you know, 10, nothing, 14, nothing. Yeah. Everybody going crazy. But, hey, you just, hey, all. All of a sudden, you get to make a play, defense gets a turnover, you get a score. And next thing you know, the defense stops them, you back on the field, and now we've got to talk part of a tie ball game. Okay, let's play.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Once Minnesota got that thing even, okay, now let's play basketball. Yeah, hey, hey, they settled in. Play now. Sometimes all you got to do is relax, take a couple deep breaths, bro, and that's what it seemed like happened. Because once they made themselves and themselves came in and got to it, they got right back in the game. And from that point on, it was neck and neck. I mean, they took the league, you know what I mean? Went up by like six at one point, I think was probably.
Starting point is 00:29:51 But they shocked me. I didn't think they could keep the pace up, Arcan Ocho. When they came back, I said, boy, them boys doll tired out there. They steady bending over grabbing their shorts. I said, hell, ain't no way. I said, fourth quarter. I said, that's when they're going to jump down on them. Hey.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And boy, stay in chopping wood. If I'm a, if I'm in Nuggets, I'm looking at Aaron Gordon. I'm looking at Spencer Jones and Valancho. like Tupac was standing at that locker. When they opened up, when they closed that locker and Tupac standing right there looking at them, that's how I'm looking at them.
Starting point is 00:30:19 In juice. In juice. Yeah. Boy, that was a boy guy tonight. Ain't no way you're supposed to lose. That team with those two guys running the show, you won a championship. And those guys probably that the check,
Starting point is 00:30:33 well, we know Yokic is going to be, Yokic, Wemby, and Shay probably going to be unanimous first team all this. NBA selection. Absolutely. And you get a 19-point lead, you got to be able to hold that.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Yeah. You got to be able to hold that. Hey, this is a tough matchup for Denver, man, because of Minnesota's length. You know what I mean? Like, we talked a lot about Minnesota how great they are offensively, how good yoghage is, offensively.
Starting point is 00:31:03 But defensively, hell, he could be a liability out there. Oh, Joe. Hey, Joe, they put, hey, Uncle Joe, they put yoghage in that goddamn blender and that guy I mean I call the pick and roll of blender and you know you put the big man in a blender man having him turn like a goddamn merrygo
Starting point is 00:31:19 round top. She ain't ain't nothing he could do. Now hey listen they were seeking him out of time they would just if it's like if he was going to Ocho I throw it to Ocho you got to go into your bag you got to go at him. That seemed like what Minnesota game playing was. It was like man look we can't let his ass rest
Starting point is 00:31:35 on defense. If he's going to play in that they switched him off or Jew Randall and put him on McDaniel. And they put Aaron Gordon And you deal with it because you know Hey, Jew going to put his head out He's going to put that cross over on you And he's going to get to that left hand
Starting point is 00:31:49 And he'll lay it up Yes, sir You already know what he's going to do Hey I like I like Julius Randall energy too He got to keep that same energy He can't be out there deferring to Ant Man He got to be aggressive when need be
Starting point is 00:32:02 You know what I mean Ant Man going to be Ant Man He's going to do his thing But I think when he has another guy Meaning Jew Randall I like even McDaniels when he starts to be aggressive sometimes offensive going in his man. Man, don't let none of these dudes rest, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Hey, they got a nice squad, bro. They can really do something. They do. And they play, they play well tonight. Joe, the Atlanta Hawks led for just 3% of the game, but it made it count escape to a 107-106 victory in game T over the Knicks. CJ liked the gagged away, but anyway, Roe victory stunned the fans of CJ McCullum poured in 32 points.
Starting point is 00:32:38 He outdued Jalen Brunson and the Knicks while even in the series 1-1. The Knicks had been 40 and 1 in the postseason since the advent of the shot clock era, which happened in 1954-55 when leading by 12 or more points in the third quarter after three quarters. The only loss,
Starting point is 00:32:54 Reggie Miller scored 25 points in the fourth quarter in game five, the famous in the 1994 Eastern Conference Finals. Joe, how are your hawks able to pull it off? Luck. Hey, hey, Ocho, to win, hey, to win in the playoffs, sometimes you need a little luck, yes, sir, I'm with you when you're right now.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Hey, but, but, I don't think this was luck. I think, you know, without Brunson, I know he kind of, you know, he kind of had it going early, but for the most part, man, we kept everybody at bay. It wasn't like, you know, I know they got up on us a little bit, but for the most part, when we came back in the second half, it's like everybody started to get a little tight. you know, coming down the stretch.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And I just felt the hawks just kind of stuck with it. We kept getting turnovers, big plays after big plays, big threes. And I just wanted to stay close within the last five or six minutes, man. I'm telling you, I think CJ just was a hell of a pickup. Uncle Ocho, when y'all are watching out there, y'all see the poise and patience that he plays with. He's under control. The boy got a real bop-bop on him. He almost made Brunson touch Earth one time.
Starting point is 00:34:03 He hit that boy with that. Heim-h-h-h-heen. You feel me? Hey, a C.J. in a great spite, bro, because these young dudes, they're looking for him to leave. And although we got a superstar in Jalen Johnson, he's still learning on the fly. You feel what I'm saying? He's still learning on the fly, uh?
Starting point is 00:34:20 He's going to play a lot better at home. Hey, Joe, like I tell you y'all. Hold on, hold on, hold on. But this is what I was telling y'all, Ocho. I'd rather for a start on the road so these guys can really see what playoff basketball is like the atmosphere. C.J. him been there been there been there. He didn't play it against him. champions, you know, a lot of them, them battles he had with the Warriors when he was
Starting point is 00:34:40 in Portland. But we got some guys who are very inexperienced in the playoffs. So, but, you know, they're eager to learn. I think they're going to play a lot better at home. And I think it was great to have CJ on the road lead these guys down to charge. I'm talking about from the start to finish. I just felt CJ was consistent. He got others involved.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And when it was time for him to step up and make big plays, Angin-Ocho, he did that. Now, he got to meet me at the practice of tomorrow. He got a free throws. He got 200. He gagged. He got that pressure. He felt that. Hey.
Starting point is 00:35:16 He felt that, Joe. And he kept saying in the goddamn interview. He kept saying, my free throws. Almost. I'm going to burn my money, man. Hey. Joe. We beat him up the other night.
Starting point is 00:35:29 The guy that got them back was Kaminga. Come on, eh. Kamingo put that ball on the floor. Camingo put his hair. There you go. And he did an unbelievable job because when they went small and took a Kanghu out, he had the guard cat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Man, that man had Cat out there. God, dig it. I told y'all, man. I told y'all, man. I told y'all. I told y'all. Hey. I don't know, I don't know why he'd do it.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Listen, bro. I told y'all, uh, comminga. Cominga is not a little bitty dude, bro. He can fight cat. And I think he doesn't. Hey, much. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, yeah, Cat might get him a couple times.
Starting point is 00:36:11 That's cool. But for the better part of it, he'll wear a cat down to the, you know, I feel like he just got more endurance. You feel what I'm saying? And when we play small like that, you see how Camingo was just coming in, attack, and being aggressors? That's how he got to play. From now on, that's how he drive.
Starting point is 00:36:28 You remember that? We're not running no place for you, bro. You got to get it. How you get it. We pass you the ball up ahead. Yeah. Hey, you go attack, you get on the attack early. And that's what he did.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You see that? He got a couple of AM ones early because he attacked early. Bro, right now that's not your game where we go, hey, you just, aha, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Right, right. What you are is to put your head down and hit him with the float or get to the rim and flush. That's what you are. And we just talked about that, Joe, the other night when they did win, what is Kamenga's role? We didn't know what his role was
Starting point is 00:37:05 or the fact that he didn't have a role but Uncle said it's just the right way Once you get in there Just play basketball You don't need to think Just be able to read and react And just go and do what you did the night Obviously being able to frustrate cat
Starting point is 00:37:18 Again, who need to do And take advantage of them being small Get your ass down on the goddamn block In Bangal Lippetianian. Hey listen, go ahead Joe Listen for Kaminga He just got to continue to keep playing I mean, let his defense fuel his offense because they really got him going.
Starting point is 00:37:38 He was in the passing lane. You know what I mean? Just coming up, just causing havoc on defense. That was fueling our fast, breaking our offense, and we was getting easy buckets left and right. They got to keep doing that, bro. They got to keep applying pressure on them dudes, man. They're going to, hey, they're going to choke.
Starting point is 00:37:55 The property, the thing in the Camino, and probably from the scouting report, if Kat can't get that post position, he'll get frustrated and then get you going to going back out, just going back out to the three-point line. Right. So, the, Mingo fought for the initial charge. Yeah. There you go. And so now, Kat go get frustrated and going to get him up.
Starting point is 00:38:14 He ain't looking like, hey, swing it. Hey, let me repost. Right. That's not him. That's not him. Hey, hey, hey, he won't, you seen him out there hitting them threes. He's stowling it. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:26 You see him? Yeah. Yeah, you see him? Yeah, you see him. I'm like, yeah, okay. Okay, just let us stay close. Let us stay close. He can have it fun.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Look, Spike Lee Nim over there. Hey, listen, y'all know Spike Lee graduated from Moorhouse, so he'd feel to come down and try to buy all the tickets. But we can't have that. We can't have that in, hey. Hey, we can't have that. Hey, you know it's going to be a lot of blue and orange out there, man. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:38:52 It is. It is. But, yeah, yeah, the Hawks played really well. I mean, you look, look at the Hawks. They had one, two, three. They have four guys in double figures. led by Jonathan Cominga. I thought he played really well.
Starting point is 00:39:07 He played excellent. Seven to 12, one or four, four, six, free throw line, four rebounds and assists. Oh, yeah. Stills, he had blocked. He played really, really well.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And had he and, Corey Crespart tied for the highest plus minus and plus 10. Yeah. I think this is, that's a tough matchup for the Knicks. Especially, like I told y'all, you put him at that four,
Starting point is 00:39:32 five spot him and uh jalen johnson that's a tough combination to have to guard yeah and you know you know who didn't get you really nothing the night to uh joe that imagine especially when they get back home and they play at home nekia alexander walker no you know he gonna play you won the game tonight was was c jac mccullum did obviously got damn jaylon johnson showed up to the party but nekea alexander walker ain't even he can come to the party he ain't show up he ain't show up hey look he played And he played hard, Ocho. He played defense, though. I thought late in the ball game, he made some big time plays.
Starting point is 00:40:08 That strip that he got on Brumson. I thought he played, you know, when you play in Brunson, and you got to play that kind of minutes, it's going to take some of your offensive game away. That's why you always try to put one of your best offensive players on a weak defensive player. It takes a special somebody to be able to dig deep on both ends, give it to you offensively,
Starting point is 00:40:28 and still be able to take one of the two, or one or two or three best opposing offensive players and try to shut them down. So I thought he did a very good job. Because look at Brunson. Brunson had 29 points, but he took him 26 shots. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I can live with that. You go and tell him 26, Joe, I can live with that. Yeah. Hey, listen, I like Alexander's energy. I think he just made the most threes in franchise history in the season. So I know, Ocho, he's going to play. play a lot better at home.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And we need this contribution. Listen, if we can hold the Knicks to 106 points or less, man, that's in our favor every night, bro. You know what I mean? Like, we can't have it up there in them in them hundred thirties and hundred and forties and hunting now. But see?
Starting point is 00:41:21 We got to, yeah. Joe, I'm glad. I'm going to let Bronson shoot 26 times. Because guess who ain't shooting? Yeah, yeah. Cat had 12 shots. Yeah. OG had four shots. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Josh Hart had 11 shot of tips. I thought we placed on. He can't, that's a high volume of shots. He ain't, I don't think he got enough stamina to get money like that. I'm just keeping real with y'all. Not from what I see.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Well, I mean, because guess what? You got, you got Walt taking him and you got Dyson Daniels. Dyson Daniels got the length to bother him. Yeah. Just wear him down. They're saying, that's what it seemed like. They go Jalen Johnson.
Starting point is 00:42:04 So you get six, nine. You get six, eight. You get probably what is walk, what is walk, six, four, six, three, six, four. He might be even six five. Who is in? Who? Uh, uh, and Akiel Alexander Walker. Ah, yeah, he about six five, six six six.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So think about the length that we, that we throw in that six foot two, Jalen Brunson. Yeah. And we're wearing him down. So now he's taking, he's taking, he's a tough shot maker now. He, don't go me wrong. Now, I'm not, but I'm just saying if they, the hawks can continue to make him shoot 10 or 26. 10 of 26? That means 26 shots. Cat only got 12 shot attempts. Cat got no free throw. So what does that tell you? No free throw.
Starting point is 00:42:47 He ain't aggressive? And we say the same thing every time we talk about it. We say the same thing. And I know I know it's not just us. I mean everybody says it and he still don't change his game. Even though yeah, hell, you're playing Atlanta Hawks team to have nobody that can deal with you down there in the block and in the paint. But you still want to sit there. Huh? Change his game.
Starting point is 00:43:10 How are you going to change his game? You think a crocodile all of a sudden going to start eating kelp? Go to start eating flowers? It'll eat meat. Hey. So cat's going to be what cat is. You ask him to change his game now. Hey.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Y'all got to get my boy of Congo some credit too. I sent him. Okay, Ocho. Hey, he'd be out there split cat. He'd be out there shooting at that day. Because if you put it. because if you put Mitchell Robinson in the game, you drag, you brag, you bring him outside of the paint.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Because Mitch, all he wants to do is stand up in there, contest shots, get lob, dunk, get rebounds, and give the Knicks second chance point attempts. That's what he wanted to do. But when you get a congoon, Congrel can knock down the three. So you just can't sit your ass up on the basketball. You're going to take it out of the net.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Hey, I told you all, man, this is going to be a good series, bro. Okay, hold on that, Joe. But CJ, man, I thought that shot that. Think about it. CJ got that ball. Hey, got to his spot and let it go.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And he had a stretch down there four-quarter-on-hundred-hoto. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's getting buddy. I'm talking about he had them dudes at his mercy, bro. The way he run the pick-and-roll, man, to the young hoopers out there who want to become a pretty good basketball player, man, you, hey, the NBA is a pick-and-roll league, bro. We're going to always seek the mismatch, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:44:33 We're going to pick-roll you to death. And so you got to be great in the pick and roll and CJ got that thing down to a science. You hear me? I'm talking about getting in his spot, shooting his floater, shooting his midi, and then his Bobbop game so nice, boy, I'm telling him, Bob Brunson a few times.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Hey, what should you call it, the Bob-Bop? That Bob Bobbop. You're going to see what I'm talking about it. Don't worry about it. It's coming to a place near you. Hold on. You're about me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah, I'm talking to you. You're going to see what that Bob Bob Bob here. Hey, Joe, I know you move. I explain your move to you. already, Joe. Yeah, whatever. You see CJ out there? You see how he had bruns on skates, what?
Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah. Hey, Joe, that's five on five. Joe, they have nothing to do with one-on-one. Because that bop-bop ain't going to work. Oh, they got, hey, they got Pastor Troy going to be here for game three, man. He don't turn his thing up in game three. Hey, George, that's a high now. A long as he played by Troy now.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Long as he played vice versa. Hey, he goes vice versa. We ready. We ready. Turn the roof on this thing. Hey, Patrick Trude. Real deal, boy. Come on.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Come on. Hey, Joe, you're going to the game? Yeah, I'm going, oh, Joe. Okay. Yeah. Hey, Joe, tell me how you got my worst seat available. You're going to. Hey.
Starting point is 00:45:55 I got the last ticket. You did, Joe? I mean, you got the last one? Joe did? Nah, uh-uh, uh-uh. Nah, nah, nah. Me and my people's going on. Who's your people?
Starting point is 00:46:05 Hey, but uh, huh? Who are your people? Are you, you don't know. You don't know. You'll see it though. You win in here the camera, you'll see. Hey, uh, are you going? You see it on.
Starting point is 00:46:15 No, I'm going to the Lakers game tomorrow. I'll go to the Lakers game tomorrow. You too? Hey, hold on. Oh, your team, ain't it? Yeah, Miami ain't making it. Oh, Joe, I'm sorry. Hey, listen, that, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:46:27 That's fine. That's fine. I mean, y'all can make fun of me. Hey, it's one thing about it, man, God said, don't kick no man while he down. And y'all still are kicking. You ain't down? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 But we tried to put you down. That's cool. So we can't kick you. No. But Atlanta showed me something tonight. Yeah. They showed me something tonight. They did, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:51 They did. That was suckers because, you know, the Knicks was, you know, pretty much handling us. And I just, I felt we could fight back. We seemed like we would get within a few points. And next thing, you know, you know, Knicks are going a little mini run or something happened then, but when the fourth quarter came, it's like everybody got tight for the Knicks. And CJ, CJ was like, hey, hey, y'all just chill out.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I got this. Don't worry. I got, don't worry about it. You see Tony Bradley play. Remember, Quinn knows it. Quinn had him in Utah, a big body. Somebody that can bang, somebody that can bang with Mitch, somebody that can bang with Kat. Because Cat was, because Cat was killing him on the glass.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, shout out to Tony Bradley because I was on their team. in Utah when Quinn was coaching. I played with Tony Bradley. So he gave us some great minutes tonight. You know, A, A, which was much needed. They needed it. Because they did. Man, they did.
Starting point is 00:47:44 They needed that. But I thought the Hawks played really well. They got, Quinn should be very proud. The team should be very proud. But don't relax now. You won a game. You took home court for them. Now you got to go home and serve.
Starting point is 00:47:59 You like the battlefield, okay. We've advanced now, but don't go. Hey, don't go and give you that. bad smet up. Hey, hey, uh, we got to practice on
Starting point is 00:48:09 semen retention. Don't go back, don't go home, try and get all that moot shoot from your lady and all that. We need, hey,
Starting point is 00:48:16 we gotta have them legs, baby. We got to have legs, you know, I got a shit to come. Man, when I get hold of that, hey,
Starting point is 00:48:23 I got to wake up with a mean one. Hey. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Hey, Joe.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Hey, Joe, them boy down in Atlanta, Joe. What are the men? We just need a little discipline, Ocho. We just need a little discipline, Ocho. Joe, that's like being in Houston talking about you need a little discipline.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Like, come on there. Well, we ain't, hey, Ocho, we really got to the type of players. A lot of our players married, bro. Like, they, you know, I'm just saying. Okay. Yeah, we got, we got a, we got a pretty good team. I'm with you when you're right.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah. Hey, hey, I don't have been away. Oh, oh, I don't have to wait for about a week. Right, right, right, right. Oh, we got two big games You know Unless you got a visitor in town You got to get it
Starting point is 00:49:11 Hey Hey, hold You let ketchup stop you Yeah, man Oh, my bad My bad I'm good I'm good with that
Starting point is 00:49:21 Oh, hey, I know Ocho Let's stay on the top of her basketball Let's say that for the back end That's for the back end of the show You ought to shame of yourself, Ocho But you know That's for the back end of the show
Starting point is 00:49:32 Let's stay on top of that basketball right now. The next fan went on, we're from F. Trey Young to F.J. And you see Trey Young left, his 29.2,
Starting point is 00:49:46 and C.J. is right there with it. Damn. CJ right there with it. Hey, hey, that I run it. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Hey, listen. This thing here's gonna be crank. Hey, win that game, Joe. Wednesday? I mean, Thursday. Thursday? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:06 It's going to be jumping. Hold on, hold on, Joe. Hold on, Joe. What you hold on for? Let me see something. What you're looking for? No, because I'm probably, I'm, I'm from there. Hey, Joe, you see me at the game, boy?
Starting point is 00:50:21 Just holl at your boy now. I'm putting out. Oh, you plan on coming down that way? Hold on. You sure is this Thursday? Yeah, it's Thursday. Yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Watch this. If I see you in there, if I see you in there, I'll come speak to you. Hey, Joe, hey Joe, you got to hear with that church hand. Yeah. What church hand? Hey, man. Yeah, you know, you're in the church. You see somebody?
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let the Hawks go on the road. So the last two road teams win the ball game. The Hawks win 107, 101,6. and Minnesota goes on the road and take down Denver. But no such luck for the Toronto Raptors.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Donovan Mitchell, scores 30. James Harden, scores 28. Evan Mobley has 25. The Cavaliers had at least three players that scored at least 25 points in the fourth postseason game for the second straight season. The fourth time overall, Cleveland never trail, and won 12 straight playoff games versus Toronto.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Thanks to Goat Jane. Because Goat Jank, they couldn't win nothing. that Nathaniel overgo. Tad of the NBA postseason record consecutive wins over a single opponent. The streak began in 2016 Eastern Conference finals
Starting point is 00:51:47 when the Cavaliers took the final two games. Cavaliers swept Toronto in four games in the second round in 2017 and 2018. Hey, I got a question too. Somebody need to tell me what going on with Brandon Ingram. So the score was 115 to 105. You get great production.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I mean, look at its efficiency. R.J. Barrett, 22 points on 10 or 13. Scottie Barnes, 26 points 11 or 19. You get Colin Murray Boyles had 17. Sandro had 12, 5 of 8. B.I. had 7.3 or 15. Now, he was talking about the guy had him in the pick. They got me sending picks.
Starting point is 00:52:24 They got me saying picks. Okay. You ain't said no pitch tonight. You three of 15. Come on now with it. Come on now. Hey. What did you got on, Joe?
Starting point is 00:52:34 I was going to see, man. that goddamn Mowbly and Hardin. I understand they had 25 and 28, but look how fishing them boys was from the field, though. And with Donovan Mitchell, playing like that, if you got Mowgli, Hardin and Mitchell playing like that with your two bigs,
Starting point is 00:52:50 hell, Joe, they could damn their just about beat anybody coming out the east. If them three, them three spearheaded muscles play like that every single night. Now, I know it's impossible to do every single night. But if two of them come along, and the rest of your supporting cast, to give you something, especially on the defensive end
Starting point is 00:53:07 with them big boys down there. I mean, hell. Hey, listen. I see what you're saying, but I also know what Uncle saying, too, about Brandon Ingram. If he gave you anything tonight, with the way they bench playing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:20 If Brandon Ingram gives you anything. Yeah. They got two points from Yacquiporto. Yeah. Jamal Shee gave three points. Brandon Ingram gave you seven points. So you got 12 points. One guy played 38 minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:33 The other guy played 36. the man is. Yeah. Hell to the no. Yeah. No, I agree with you. Brandon Ingram got to be better. I'm sure he knows that three for 15 ain't going to get it.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Not against his Cavs team in Cleveland with Donovan and James Hardin and then them playing the way they're playing. Shit. Y'all ain't given no resistance, bro. Like, you know, you got to be better than that. And I'm sure he'll be better than the game. Stop turning the damn ball over. when they go home.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Hey, I got them winning. I got them winning a game or two in this series, though. Yeah, I don't got them winning a series, but I got them winning a game or two. But yeah, it was a great fight, man. It was a great fight. I just felt Cleveland came out hitting on all cylinders from the jump. Hey, dear. Hey, Joe.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Them boy putting, go here. What's up? Hey, you've seen that goddamn step back three from Hardin with, hey, that was a file. I mean, we opened up, we opened up with a little, little bit with his hand, that wouldn't. Yeah, and he'd come up through it when you put your hand in there. But he went back and fell. Yeah, you can't put your hand in their cookie job.
Starting point is 00:54:44 They're going to do that every time. Once they see that hand in it like that, they're just going straight up. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, look, that's why the game different now because you can't touch nobody. As soon as you touch them, they start, you know, flailing, getting them foul. File baiting. But Cleveland did what they're supposed to do, bro.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Protect home court. now we're going to see what they really made, though. Can they go to Toronto and get a win or two? But I got Toronto winning a game or two in this series. In game one, B. I had 17 points. Game two, he had seven points. On three or 15, he had a team high five turnovers. He's averaging almost 22 points a game in the regular season.
Starting point is 00:55:24 But through two games, he has just 12 points, averaging 12 points a game. And he's the second highest paid player on the team at 38 mil per season. and he's been an all-star. He was all-star this year, wasn't it? I think he was, Joe. Yeah, they were. So he had two-a-old-star. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:45 They had two guys that were all-star. He's either your best player or your second best player. It all depends. You're talking about Scotty Barnes or whatever. But they want to even want to be whatever, however you want to rank it. He got to give me more than that. I can't have three role players coming off the damn bench playing 10 less minutes than you and got more points to you.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Yeah. Jacoby Walker had 14 points to your 7. Murray Bowles had 17 to your 7. Sandro had 12 to your 7. No, that can't happen. It just can't happen. Yeah. It can't.
Starting point is 00:56:18 On the win on the road, he doesn't play like that. You make it away with, you make it win a game at home with him playing like that. If the rest of these guys are going to be efficient the way they've been. If the other guys play like this, yes, you can win.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. On the road. But. on the road It's tough. It's going to be tough. Your big guys need to come through,
Starting point is 00:56:38 but it's your role players that eventually win you the game. But if your big guys don't come through, I don't know if the role players can do enough. Now, if you get somebody to go off, give you 30, some role player get your 30, 35, hey, you got a chance. But it ain't very often that you're going to find a role player
Starting point is 00:56:56 get numbers like that, Joe, especially in a playoff game. Now, it might happen in the regular season. Yeah. But in a playoff game, the likelihood of a role player going off and getting 30, it's happened. And we saw it in between. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:11 It don't happen a lot, bro. Hey, you got to be cut from a different cloth, boy, to come out. Listen, to be a role player or to come off the bench and win a game, meaning the playoffs to where, you know, you're hitting on all cylinders because, man, the game playing be so precise. Okay, Ocho, like I always tell y'all, we already know what plays they're going to run. They already know what plays we're going to run. know who the shooters are and the non-shooters.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Bro, we got, we got to play it to the team and see who make a mistake first. Yeah. All right, baby dinosaurs. Y'all down, 02. Hey, Toronto going to be lit. Drake going to be at the game. Hey, we got some good matchups coming up, fellas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Yeah. It's going to do tight. The table's going to turn. Well, they have to. They have to, Joe. I mean, look, you lose 3-1. Now, look, Donald Mitchell does have a problem, have a problem. He's lost.
Starting point is 00:58:06 having three one lead, having two old leads, and he's lost. And that's kind of been the knock on him. Last year, what Indiana did to them was, ooh, that was embarrassing. Yeah, Indiana, they did that the area down by the last year. In the playoffs, they won't poll. They was other dollars in every series. Yeah. What, they beat the Knicks, beat the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Calf? What, they beat the Cows, the first round. Then they got the Knicks. Didn't they beat, what you call them in the final? Beat up, what you call them? They beat the Knicks to go to the final, didn't it? Maybe they did, yeah. Because I know they started off with the calves.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Yeah, they went from the calves to, who wasn't it? That goddamn Hallie was on goddamn fire, huh? Yeah, Hallie hitting game winner. He were going crazy. Yeah. I don't remember who the hell. Yeah. Because like you said, they were
Starting point is 00:59:14 underdogs in every in every matchup, but they found Was it Milwaukee? It was Milwaukee. It might have been Milwaukee. Yeah. Or they played bucks in the first round, then Cleveland, and then the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Oh, yeah, yeah. And they were underdoll in every series. But Hall of had them there about four, five game winners. Oh, that boy was cooking. And he got that. that funny release on this shot, Joe? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Straight water. That thing, cash. I ain't going to even lie to you. I went Indiana traded for him. I ain't really see what they seen in him when he was in Sacramento playing with Fox. I'm like, they must think this little, this little dude here can play it. He needs to be really good. Who's your point guard?
Starting point is 00:59:58 Fox's him. Yeah. I ain't see, I ain't see this, though. I ain't see him putting it down like this. Yeah. You let him go and he gets a big, then he can throw lob to. I mean, he's still, you know. Like I said, he can make the three.
Starting point is 01:00:11 He penetrate. He's bigger than you think. He likes six five. Yeah. He's a big-ass point. Yeah. But, you know, I'm looking forward to seeing him back next year. See what they do in the draft or what they can trade they can make because I think they need another big.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I don't think they have enough right now with Pascal and they gave up Matt Bern. Nimhard is still there. I just don't think they. Obie Topping is okay. I think he's a solid role player. but they need a big. I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies.
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Starting point is 01:05:03 They need a big in the way the worst way. But they got their work cut out for them. They got their work cut out for them because Cleveland isn't even an easy victory. So they're playing really well. As you guys saw the night, 25 for Moby. Mowgli on 13 shots. He's 11 to 13. Hardin had 28 on 9 to 14. And then
Starting point is 01:05:22 Donald McChill had 30 on 13 to 23. So when your three big guns are going off like that and you let them shoot a percentage like they're shooting, it's going to be hard for you to beat them. It's going to be really, really, really, really extremely hard for you to beat them. When you turn the ball
Starting point is 01:05:38 over 22 times, they turn it over 10 times. That's not a recipe for success. So, Cavaliers up to O, Nuggets, T. Wolves, one, one, one, Hawks, Nick, one, one. We got, hey, we got a series, we got some basketball going on now, fellas. Hey, Joe, you're feeling good now, huh, Joe? Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Come on, man, stop playing, oh, Joe. Hey, he's making videos all on Instagram, tagging me. You saw that, too? You know? I'm over in mind of my black business, and I get an alert. Yeah, hey, he, he's making all type of hawk sound. I, ah, ah, ah, ah. Hey, like he cold from Martin. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Hey, hey, hey, I almost burned my money, man. When I said the first video, he'd come down and smoke them two fritos. I said, oh, my God. Yeah, you know you can't do that. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, Joe, what you call them? They traded for Zubaz, didn't it? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:39 That's how what you call him, ended up in the Clippers. And I like Zubbos. I thought Zubbos was getting better and better and better. He played, I like, I like, he played. when he was with the Lakers and LeBron. I was shocked that Magic gave him up for, Lord, have mercy, for that what he gave him up for. For who, for who, uh?
Starting point is 01:06:58 He gave up Zubbite. Mike Muscala. That's who he traded him for. Yes, he traded him for the Clippers for Mike Muscala. And Mike Muscala was a marksman, shot three, shot three really well. Yeah. Except until he brought his ass to the Lakers and played with LeBron.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And he couldn't throw it into the damn ocean. I forgot. I forgot. We have something we've never had before. A unanimous defensive player of the year, and he's the youngest. Wimbi. Wimbi. Victor Wimbi Nami, Wimbi,
Starting point is 01:07:31 Wembe, as expected, was announced the winner of the defensive player of the year. He was seconded in voting last year. Thought he could have won it last year, favored this season until in medical condition, ending his season prematurely. Then left no doubt at 22. He's the youngest defensive player of the year.
Starting point is 01:07:47 and he's the first to win it unanimously. I mean, hey. Hey, Ray, I can see that. Hey, Oh, Joe,
Starting point is 01:08:00 the next five, maybe seven to ten years. He's probably going to win this award. I wouldn't be surprised. Because of, you know, his unique bill being seven, four,
Starting point is 01:08:14 seven, five with that long wingspan like that and moving the way he moved, you know, having great timing and shot blocking and just altering shots. Bro, it ain't going to be nothing like him over the next 20 years. It ain't nobody really to challenge him because you got to realize in the 90s, Joe, you had Mark Eaton, you had DeKinbe Matumbo, you had Elijah Wong, you had David Robinson, you had Ewing, you had guys, and then you had Jordan, and so you got Adam Robertson. So you had guys that were really, you had Gary Payton, so it wasn't no, you.
Starting point is 01:08:47 situation like, oh, man. No, hell no. They were, they played defense, defense. And so now with Wimby, really, when you look at it, it's really only too big to play defense. It's Wimby and Rudy. I mean, when you look at it, Joe, when you really, really bring it down.
Starting point is 01:09:05 When you look at big, okay, Chet, Chet's in there. But it's not like it was in the 90s when you had a, I mean, think about it, David Robinson, defensive player of the year, Hakeen, defensive player of the year. You had Mark Eaton. I mean, you had guys. And you had, you know, George, you had the guards were legit.
Starting point is 01:09:27 So you might be right, Joe. There might be a screen where he could even get four and five years. I think he's going to be probably the first guy to win five of them. Because he's won it so early in his career, I wouldn't be surprised. And you got to look at his state of mind. where he's at, bro. He's trying to do something that's never been done. He understands the position that he has.
Starting point is 01:09:53 And he's so locked in on his craft, trying to better himself day in and day out. Like, he's looking to be the best, bro. He wants to be the face of the league. He does. Hey, he wants to carry that towards. He ain't tripping. He ain't tripping by nothing.
Starting point is 01:10:07 You know what I ever come. So I think you're going to have a guy who is, you know, and God's willing, bro. He stay healthy. he gonna string a few of these together. And you might be right, he might be the first one to get five, you know, because his shot blocking ability is just crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:24 And if he don't block a shot, he makes you think, nah, I don't even want to try to lay up, I'm good. I ain't gonna try no flow, let me go on out here to the three. Hey, they get a three on one. You know, they get a three on what? You normally challenge, man, they pull that thing. Oh, no, now, now, let's go back out here. Come on, y'all.
Starting point is 01:10:42 We ain't got nothing going on down here. win me up under the basket. You're right, man. Don't nobody, hey, don't nobody want that smoke, man. He is a match-up nightmare. And the thing is, we love guys that can play offense and defense. That's what you loved about Jordan, because he gave it to you on both of them.
Starting point is 01:11:03 You love that about Kobe. You love that about Dream. You love that about those guys. Yonis. Hey, but when you look at all those dudes, you just name, none of them move like. No, no, no, no. Only Elijah was 16.
Starting point is 01:11:19 This guy's seven inches taller than Elijah one. Annie, I'm talking about, but I'm talking. Andy Twitchy with a bag, too, Joe. That what I'm talking about, Ocho. It ain't like he just shot blocking, like, oh, he really handling the rock like a real small guard. This man out here, seven four, seven, five, bro. Like, some of the moves that he's making, you know, Janus are downhill player. Yonnas ain't got no like that.
Starting point is 01:11:44 He ain't got no east or west. He ain't got nothing, ha, ha, he ain't got that. He's going straight down here, straight through. You get me? Man, Wimby got some wiggle in his game. That's all I'm saying. This is why I don't understand about the old guys is that we're not taking anything away from you, but these guys are more skilled than you.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Name one guy that played in the 80s and 90s that can do what Wimby did. No. Name one guy that played in the 80s and 90s that can do with Kevin Durant did. You don't. And it's okay. It's called evolution. It is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Yeah. Guys get bigger, faster, stronger in the NFL, they get big. Because they see what you did. And so that's the standard. You guys, I mean, when basketball first started, look at this. Come on, man. Guys were MVP shooting 40%. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Real talk. Hey. It's different. And it's okay. I'm not saying, I just believe that there are more guys to do what the really good players could do back then. That's all. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Oh, yeah. And when you think about it, you know, back in the day, Ocho, if you were 6-5-66 in, like, high school, you know, they'll put you, they'll put you under the back. You know what I mean? You're a center. You're a center. You're a lot of year.
Starting point is 01:13:06 You ain't no down point guard. Nowadays, yeah, nowadays, if you're that height, you're a guard, meaning you do all guard skill work, you feel? I'm saying? Even if you're 16. They ain't just putting you up under the. go telling you shoot jump hooks, do the George Mike and drill. They ain't telling you just do all that.
Starting point is 01:13:22 You feel me? It's like, hey, look, we're going to work on this bag, even though you're tall and everybody, and that's just kind of how the game has evolved. And now you got guys like Wimby at 7475, bro, he's doing stuff we ain't never seen. I'm going to be honest with y'all. His handle is immaculate for a guy his size to be able to move the way he moves. Dude, dude, special. Because the guy, because they're working on it now, Joe.
Starting point is 01:13:45 these guys got training I mean these guys got trainers they had no trainers back then they figured all that stuff out of their own from watching reading magazines or watching stuff these guys now they see all the stuff that Jordan did
Starting point is 01:13:59 they see what Kobe did they see what all these guys with great handles did they just replicating that now you look at go on TikTok go on the internet, go on YouTube and watch these kids how they handle the ball
Starting point is 01:14:12 even the young ladies these girls five and six seven years old patting the rock they ain't playing bro it's okay see it's been there it don't just because somewhat is moving advanced to the ball that don't take away from what you did i don't care somebody with 10 championships jordan 1 6 he's still jordan cobi 1 5 ron or kd uh step they don't diminish what you guys did sometimes i think when when guys somebody does something people actually think well it doesn't no no no no it doesn't i don't give it down somebody i don't care if somebody catch 2,000 passes for a career.
Starting point is 01:14:46 It don't diminish what I did because I did what I did when I did it. Right. Now, if he catch 2,000 passes and somebody else in that era and the next closest got 500, got 500, now we're talking about something,
Starting point is 01:15:01 Ocho. Yeah. When you're that far ahead, it's kind of like, what we give Jerry so much credit is that look at when Jared played and look at what everybody did numbers work with everybody else.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Right. Ain't nobody got six. 17,000 receive yards, 18,000, 19,000, 20, 21, he got 22 every thousand yards. Yeah. Nobody's within 40 touchdowns of it. That's what you, when you play at an era and you 40 touchdowns clear of everybody else. Come on, man. Different.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Yeah. He was different. But these kids not today, Joe. I mean, hey, I don't know what the next win be is. is. I damn sure don't want to see him. What are you going to be, Joe? Eight foot tall? Hey, man, listen. Maybe. I don't know, but you know, it's some little dude out there right now,
Starting point is 01:16:05 boy, working on this game, and he don't even know it. What about to be, Robert Wadlow, the tallest man never lived, eight foot 11? Somebody coming at eight foot 11, a level, hell of the ball like that? I tell you what, now that if LeBron and Katie and him are on their way out in the next three to four years, two to three years. The game going to be in good hand. Yeah, for sure. The game is always in good hand.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Oh, oh, I don't know what's going to happen with Magic and Bird retire. Okay, here come Jordan. Here come Barclay, Malone. Man, I don't know what's going to. Okay, here come Kobe, LeBron, Gardnette, DeVisket, DeVisket, DeVade, Kobe. Yeah. Yeah. The game was, the game ain't stopping for nobody.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Oh, no. Montana, Brady. Elway, Peyton, man, it don't matter. Yeah. The game going to be just fine. Same thing with baseball. Man, I don't know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:17:01 You'll see. Keep watching. That's what's going to happen. Receivers, boatloads of them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Boat loads of them.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Because guess what? What Ocho and I didn't have, we didn't have no damn seven, seven-o-seven camp. What? And. You went to a football. Maybe if you had,
Starting point is 01:17:20 had a little money, you went to Florida or you went to Florida or you with the U, or you with the South Carolina or Georgia, or whatever the college was, you went to the head coaches camp. Man, they got, they got traveling seven-on-seven now,
Starting point is 01:17:36 Ocho. Yeah. Hey, we didn't have that. And you're basketball now, Joe. Yeah, that stuff helped. Hey, man, listen, when I was coming up, we had no trainers, all we did was who. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:17:53 Like we met at the gym. We met at the park. We was over somebody at house hooping in the backyard. You feel me? Sharpen in our tools. We ain't had nobody telling us do no one, two, dribble, pull up, pump, face, spin, right, stand on one leg for two seconds and shoot that job. We ain't have all that, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Because they didn't know. Did nobody know? Yeah, yeah. We just competed. We competed and we played day in, day. I'm talking about how damn feet was hurt. So, yeah. But congratulations, Victor,
Starting point is 01:18:24 Weminyama, the first of many. He's the youngest at 22 years of age to win the DPOY, and he's the first guy to win this award unanimously. You don't get a whole lot of unanimous as anything. I mean, you know, I think David Robinson won the, was David Robinson? A unanimous? I think David Robertson would have been the first unanimous.
Starting point is 01:18:45 He might have been, boy, he was a monster. The unanimous rookie of the year. He wasn't a unanimous. Steph is the only unanimous MVP. Shaq finished one vote short. LeBron finished one vote short. Hold on. I'm saying Dave Robertson never wanted a defensive player here.
Starting point is 01:19:00 But it wasn't unanimous. It's funny how it's always one voter, huh? One voter, yep. Always one voter, want to play around. I forget the guy. I think it was Fred Hickman that denied Shaq. And I think a guy voted for Carmelo. He's out of the New York market that ended up voting for Carmello the year LeBron finished
Starting point is 01:19:23 one vote short. Hey, you give people a little power, Joe. You see how they abuse it? Oh, we know it, bro. It just to be funny. It'd be different, ain't, man? I mean, look, it happens. Hell, people left Kim Griffey Jr. off the Hall of Fame ballot.
Starting point is 01:19:40 So, Kevin Durant. Damn. I said, damn. Kevin Durant went through the, how about a half of Houston's practice on Monday and would be a game decision Tuesday, according to I made Yudoka. KD. Mr. Rock is game one loss due to a knee bruise. He suffered in practice
Starting point is 01:19:57 on Wednesday. Reports have come out that he suffered the knee injury, diving for a loose ball, and bumping into a teammate. Damn. Well, that's one thing we didn't do. Now, if we could dive in the game, but Mike
Starting point is 01:20:13 Shedhan, we're going to have you down for ish in practice. Hey, that's why Pat Riley make you wear knee pads. Oh, you got a way, knee pads? We're knee pads in practice when you're getting down like that. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:29 We're going to be working. They don't work like that, no, Joe. They don't. It's a different, and I get it. I get it. I get it. It's so much money involved. You don't want to get guys hurt.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Oh, Joe, that's the thing what you see with us. I mean, they don't have no two days in practice. You only get 11 padded practices, and I think you only get three, like the last six, seven weeks of the season. Right. It's a different time, and I understand it. Well, the thing is, damn, Houston, they had this long break because of the playing, so they had that week where they weren't playing.
Starting point is 01:21:02 So if you ain't even planning that week, you have to find a way to kind of rave it up at least for a day or two August. Oh, Cho. We just can't go out there cold turkey and we ain't got our heart rate up. Yeah. Like, we got a bump and grind a little bit, and it's just, this is just one of the unfortunate that happened when you're practicing before the playoffs. Well, that's what we had to do because, like, we might have a playoff or we're going to sit
Starting point is 01:21:25 out. We'd have to take, we'd have to take scout team reps. Yeah. So, because we weren't going to get any game reps, so we had to take scout team reps. Cool. I'm cool. I'm cooking. Doing your thing.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Coach, D.Core, they tell him, well, they just, they just, tight end, he ain't shabbyn't sharp, he ain't no pro bowl or all pro. When he might be
Starting point is 01:21:50 to get y'all the way y'all play it. Yeah, yeah. But no, I get it. I get it. And it's very unfortunate because KD. played 78 of 82 ball games.
Starting point is 01:22:01 And here it is a freak incident. And now I missed the first game. There's a potential the possibility. I might miss the game tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Yeah. And could potentially cost them the series. Hey, because y'all know, momentum. Hey, I'll tell you, man, it's a fine line between winning and losing in the postseason.
Starting point is 01:22:18 And, you know, Lakers build this humongous confidence and they go up too old going into Houston. Y'all know LeBron probably going to have, he's going to have one of them games. One of them games, he's going to act of fool. Got about the opportunity for us to go out there to Houston see old gold out there in, you know, Houston. You don't know what I'm saying, Joe and Joe?
Starting point is 01:22:36 Y'all will go to H-Town? I'll be down for that now. Oh, man, y'all is scared. Y'all scared. Y'all scared. Y'all want to go? You know, and Scooby say, roll. Hey.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Hey. Hey, the Lakers play Houston in L.A. tomorrow, right? Yes. Okay. So the next game, that means, I mean the next game of what? The next two games are being Houston. Three and four are being Houston. Games three and four.
Starting point is 01:23:08 I mean, y'all want to plan a little trip down now? Nope. You just said you want. Huh? I just talked. Oh, okay. You can't go anyway. What would happen?
Starting point is 01:23:25 Why can't go? Man Cambodia ain't letting you go nowhere. Yeah, she'll let me go. I mean, she don't run no prison. Let me, I mean, it's like halfway house. It's about that. It's about that. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:23:44 You ain't tried to do nothing, no, too. No, I mean, listen, if y'all go, I go, I go. You know, I mean, listen. And now, also, we call Uncle Bluff. He didn't think we're going to call this. Yeah, you should know. Man. He didn't think he's going to call the club.
Starting point is 01:23:58 I didn't think Joe, Joe, like, I'll be down to take a little trip. I doubt, I doubt, sure ain't think, uh, I damn sure ain't think you was a, uh, uh, uh. I definitely think you're going to be the first one. Hey, anytime I got an opportunity to hang with y'all boys, man, listen, I'm all. Man, go ahead on with that. You had an opportunity to hang with Joe. Any time I got an opportunity to hang with y'all, man, it's always love, man. I'm here for y'all.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Hey, I've re-arranged my life for y'all, man. You hear me? I rearrange my life, man. Chat, y'all know what your fake left go right. Hey. Yeah, I rearrange my life for y'all, man. You hear me? I'm glad I learned my lesson early.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Yeah. And Joe, I'm with you when you're right, Joe. Joe, I'm with you when you're right, Joe. Joe, I'm with you when you're right, Joe. Yeah. Bam, damn. I guess we have to see. Damn, my goddamn heat, man.
Starting point is 01:25:00 We sit here talking basketball and ain't about my heat, man. Man, it's been about you heat a long-ass time. I'm saying. Don't get on since then. I'm just the fact that we talk about all these other teams. I just can't wait until you see the move that Pat Riley and Mickey Eris and make, you know, in all the team. Well, we'll walk over when they make them.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Yeah, we need to be talking about. about there right now. We talk about the upper echelon team that's in the playoffs right now. I got you. Joe, I understand. I understand there's certain things that I can say, but I sprinkled it out there a little bit. You know, like parsley, I sprinkled it out there a little bit and, you know, the fact that I say when I do say it, most of the people don't believe me,
Starting point is 01:25:35 but when it happened, they were like, oh my goodness, Ocho, you was right. So a small example of me knowing what I'm talking about but nobody really paying attention. And goddamn in February, I told you. Hey, um, where did I say? And I'm sure we got the video evidence that we can pull back
Starting point is 01:25:50 and we can use this proof. When did I say AJ Brown was going when they're going to what team I said we're going to? Yeah. Two months ago, Joe.
Starting point is 01:25:59 I told him, I've been telling since the what, October, I said, oh, he about it. Oh, yeah, he's about it. He didn't know what you talking about. You're all you try to do. Man, that's what I don't like about it.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Because he's like, he know everything. Come on, now. I ain't not one person because we can go back and pull it because we still got the comments what Ocho and I was talking about because we got it and we can pull the comments.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Mm-hmm. You don't know what you're talking about. All you do is think you know everything. You don't know everything. I said, man, y'all have here out of this man talking. They win in the ball. They winning games. Oh, my thing went out.
Starting point is 01:26:32 It came back. My bad. So they traded. No, Joe. It's going to be a post-June 1st. Yeah, post-June 1st. But, Joe, listen, I was saying this two, three months ago, right? Football season was over.
Starting point is 01:26:44 They were having discussion and talks about them going. I said the first thing I said was, listen, young bull want to get up out of Yeah. If you're acting why you're in season and then I'm thinking what place would make sense for AJ Brown to go for him to still be able to flourish. Hello, go back with your coach. You was winning God damn Tennessee. I mean, in Tennessee with coached Rable. Yeah. So I said right away, I say, yeah, he's going to the Patriots. I mean, it's good. It's common sense at that point, you know, and this is damn there two, three months ago. Everybody talked about, man, shut up. He don't want to go nowhere. What do you talk about? Thank you. I'm like, I don't think, y'all don't
Starting point is 01:27:20 understand how it was. But guess what, Ocho? But you don't they go say, oh, everybody do who you go get traded? You are alive. No, you didn't. You're a lie because all y'all, and the, don't come now. Oh, man, no, no, no, no, no. We want y'all, just like y'all, when Ocho and I wrong, and y'all want Ocho and I admit that we was wrong, we got it wrong, I need y'all to do the same thing. I want you all to run it with the same passion, with the same conviction that y'all say, unc and Ocho don't know what the hell they're talking about. Ain't know, AJ say he wasn't going nowhere. They say they're What go trade him?
Starting point is 01:27:50 Run it with the same passion. Hey, I got all the tweets saved too. Yeah. I'm going to go back and pull them. When it actually happened after June 1st, we're going to go back and we're going to pull about 15 of them. So you better go take them down because we like the job. Because we use all tweets against you.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Yeah. Because y'all just knew. Oh, man. He ain't say that. He said it didn't want to go to work. They said it was going to trade him. Okay. Eagle fan.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Where y'all at? I know we got some Eagle fans. Yeah. I know we got some Eagle fans because I told you during the season they're going to trade it. I said he wants to get out there. And you know what? It's best for the – it'll be a – it's the best thing. Sometimes when you have irreconcilable differences, let's go ahead and break this thing up amicably.
Starting point is 01:28:37 That is what y'all wanted to hear. Mm-hmm. Oh, you just trying to – no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want y'all what y'all normally do when Ocho and I are wrong, Oh, man, just admit you was wrong. Now, I want the Eagle fan. Now, come on with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:54 And the funny thing. Come on with it. It's going to be a good thing. It's going to be a good thing. Let me give me a piece of candy. You know, hey, like the old people say, Joe, let me get a piece of his old hard candy. Hey, my grandma kills some candy. Help her.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Hold on. The man catch a touchdown in the Super Bowl. He's a second team all-pro. He's a Pro Bowl player. He led the team and received it and yards. I don't know where else you can get. And he was unhappy. You remember two years ago, he on the sideline reading a book
Starting point is 01:29:31 to keep from blowing the top. Whatever you got to do to keep you calm. It got so bad. They had a meeting. The owner and AJ had a meeting. He said, I understand your frustration. probably with something like, I understand your frustration,
Starting point is 01:29:49 but can you not be so public? And I said, I don't have a problem because I'm firm believer you don't accept anything in a win you wouldn't have lost. I said, but you got to keep it behind the scenes
Starting point is 01:29:59 because people are going to view you as selfish. You're winning. At one point, you had the best record in the NLC. I said, you're winning. I say, people are going to look at you as being selfish because they're going to look at it's like, no, you just want your stats.
Starting point is 01:30:15 And then if you drop a pass or something happens, people are going to become overly critical of you. Yes. I'm just trying to. Yeah. I ain't telling what somebody told me. Ocho and I are not speaking from, I got 14 years. Ocho got 11. So that's 25 years of NFL experience, being in the locker room and seeing how things work.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Yeah. That's all. No, no, don't know. No, no, don't tell you. I never meant nothing. I need you to admit. Don't talk this ain't about it. Now.
Starting point is 01:30:44 When U. wrong again? I'll tell you what, if sexy dexy go out there and ball out, I'm saying, you know what, that was a good trade. Well, hold on, hold on. It was a good trade. I'm telling you's going to be a good trade. Because any time we talk about football and I say something ahead of time, it's always right.
Starting point is 01:31:01 It's always right. I'm rarely wrong when I say this thing. Since you've been talking about your bingles, your bingles ain't been to the playoff since. Okay, that's just one thing. That's just one thing. Hey, now, hold on, hold on that. Don't you do that. Hey, brother cowboy, don't you do that down there.
Starting point is 01:31:14 That's what you're not going to do. Because I chime in and say back. I'm just saying. We talk about us not being to the playoffs. I mean, we're in the same goddamn boat, now, you know? Hey, if I'm Rose, then you jack. Now, don't act like that. A win is a win.
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