Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Tom Brady teases NFL comeback + Rai Benjamin joins

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are joined by USA Olympic 400-meter hurdle gold medalist Rai Benjamin to recap his 2024 Paris Olympic performance, Tom Brady hinting at another NFL comeback and much more!03:40 - Show Starts05:00 - TB12 coming back?25:35 - JJ Mcarthy season is over31:45 - Dak Contract talks34:37 - Rai Benjamin joins the show(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Brady just turned 47. He retired he retired after uh after the 2022 season and he has not played a game since january 6 16th of 2023 oh joe why brady keep doing this i don't know i i think he'd like it i think he'd like it or he might be setting it up for some for some big i don't think it's a return to the game of football, but I mean, he's already going to anchor the CBS, CBS network, right? Oh, Fox is Fox. Okay.

Number one, he can be anchored on Fox. So him coming back is probably, probably not likely, but he might be setting up for something else. Is he just playing the seed?

I'm not sure what the seed may be, but obviously playing football is not it. Why would you, why would you give up 37 million he got a 10-year deal damn near 400 million dollars to talk yeah you get to i don't give a damn if he comes back and plays another five years yes sir i'm gonna tell you what my brother told me when i thought about coming back for year 15 instead of taking that desk job at CBS. Right. He said, boy, you get too old to play football. You don't get too old to talk.

I like that. So, let me ask you a question, Ocho. And also, one of the things that I had to decide, if I won another Super Bowl, was that going to change anybody's perception of me? No. If I had another 1,000-yard season, another 50-catch season?

No. No, sir. What can Tom Brady do to change anybody's perception of him? Absolutely nothing except change the narrative about being too old to play the game of football at the quarterback position. That's probably that's probably it. That narrative that you can still be done. Or probably he's one of the few that can probably do it well into his 40s, almost to the age of 50. And I mean, this it doesn't change the narrative at all he's the goat he's the greatest of all time with a young fella down there in canada city right on his heels

that's pretty much it i just say that look there are gonna be a lot of guys that's gonna play unless if they don't suffer significant injury you're gonna see a lot of guys playing 18, 19, 20 season. The rules will allow it. You can't punish the quarterback like you once could. And if you could, man, they get sawed in half. You don't want to take that kind of punishment, Ojo. Oh, yeah. So, look, I just think he's having fun with it. I think from time to time, like, y'all know me.

Y'all know I can still do this, right? Yeah. Go ahead. This is the thing i like about about the new tom i call it the new time because the time and the time in new england is the time that the time in new england is the serious time i'm about business time i'm coming to my job but the time we got in tampa bay was the side that the players got to see inside the locker room when there were no cameras around the fun time the personality time the time we got in Tampa Bay was the side that the players got to see inside the locker room when there were no cameras around the fun, Tom, the personality,

Tom, the Tom that makes jokes, the, you know, in, in, in New England, I tried to get him on Twitter for the longest in New England.

I tried to get him on Instagram for the long Instagrams for the longest. He wouldn't do it. He wouldn't budge. All of a sudden he gets into, he gets to Tampa. Brand new man. I can finally be myself i'm finally i don't want to use the words is i'm finally free but i can just be myself without without having to

mask who i truly am up under the patriot way if that if that makes sense and we now we get to see the fun guy we get to see the fun guy on twitter you know he's he's making content videos and and having fun and i think it's dope vlogging and all this other stuff and that's the time that we never got to see well we got to see it you know that that that fun side of him but the world never got to see it and now it's a coming out party for him and he's taking advantage of it i think the thing is for the most part oh joe the only guy that really was himself at all times was Gronk. Yeah. Gronk was that

college frat guy that drank beers, had a good time, yelled and screamed. He took care of his business off on the field. There's no question about it. Yeah. But he was himself. Coach Belichick didn't make, didn't, wasn't able to suppress

who Gronk was. The Gronk that you see, that's how he is. He's really, what you see, he's really, that's how he is. He's a big, fun-loving, frat, you know, you think of a frat guy at a PWI that drinks, have a good time,

go have on khakis and a blazer when he goes somewhere, that's Gronk. But he's gonna have a great time. time he's a great guy he's a fun guy to be around and coach belichick wasn't able to suppress that yeah i don't know if we got anybody else's personality in new england other than grump and when you got and when and and when you got because i think the thing is that you understood why you was there he controlled everything there was never a situation where i'm here because the coach wanted me but the general manager didn't i'm here because the general manager wanted me but the coach didn't right they're they're the same person so you know you was there because of coach belichick you know if you weren't there it was because of coach belichick and for the longest time

tom was okay with that but at some point in time, Tom realized, I'm doing all this and you still treat me like the 23rd, the 48th guy on the roster? So why the hell am I doing all this? Towards the end, yeah. Yes. He's like, I'm not on Twitter. I'm not doing any of these things.

And I still get the same abuse. I get the same. Nah, hell nah. So as you notice at the time the end he stopped coming to otas and he started to stop doing all that oh that training yeah i think i think i think he got to the point where bill bill understood uh the position uh he felt tom's time and maybe run his course a little bit uh with the garolo situation. I think Tom felt the pressure of Bill probably wanting to go in that direction.

I think Tom, I think Tom might've talked to craft and saying, you know what? I don't want this individual over my shoulder. You know how that is for, for starting quarterbacks. Yes. And I think they did,

they just had to get rid of him. And listen, I could be speculating, but I'm just thinking how it played out in my head and how it played out hell in front of all our eyes. That might've been the issue. And I think Tom really had nothing to worry about, but I think it was Bill. Bill was ready to go in another direction,

feeling that Tom had done all he could and not realizing, you know, Tom leaves and goes and wins another goddamn Super Bowl. That's crazy. That's always the feeling. In a perfect story, you couldn't write it any better. To leave a team where a coach assumingly doesn't believe you anymore and wants to move on and you go to the next team and win a Super Bowl. And it's people like Tom Brady that make people think playing the quarterback position in the NFL is easy because

him and Patrick Mahomes make it look so fucking easy yet it's so difficult. They make it look so easy but yet it's so difficult. I think the thing was, look, the writing was on the wall. When you heard when the self-wikisham wrote this article about how they came to a come to Jesus meeting and Mr.

Kraft gave coach Belichick an ultimatum, ultimatum that Jimmy Garoppolo was going to be traded against coach Belichick. And he didn't want that to happen. That was his guy because coach Belichick had been in the NFL long enough to know that you need a bridge that if you let a quarterback die, rot on the vine and you don't have a bridge, you get the Miami dolphins. Yeah.

You get the Buffalo bills. And so you don't have that great, that succession plan or like the green Bay Packers. You go from Brent farm to Aaron Rogers, George. Now they, they got lucky. They got to think about it. What, what, unlike the Green Bay Packers. You go from Brent Favre to Aaron Rodgers to George Love. Now, they got lucky. They got lucky.

Think about it. What other team or entity in that matter has had the luck of the Packers with three in a row like that? Not quarterback situation. We can go from Joe Montana to Steve Young, but that stops at two quarterbacks. But, you know, Jeff Garcia had a good – Jeff Garcia was good for like three, four years on Joe Jeff. Jeff was pretty good.

But, I mean, not Hall of Fame. No, not what the Packers have had. You had 18 years of Brett. You had 18 years of Aaron Rodgers. That's crazy. And it looks like you might have 18 years of Jordan Love. So you might have 50-plus years of great quarterback, almost like the Steelers coaching situation. So you knew

it was coming. And I said this at the time. When Tom wanted an extension on his contract and all they did was take money and give it to him and assign him bonus and then they extend it. I said he gone. Why would you

not extend it? If you wanted him? That's a golden opportunity. Yeah. And so now, and I remember, and I said this also, I said, Tom, Mr. Craft won this one. He won't win the next one. Coach Belichick is going to get his way because he's not going to stop because the problem is, is that he wanted to show. See, doesn't that be the – Ocho, a lot of times when you have success

and when you see successful groups break up, it's because there's a power struggle going on that if you know, you know, if you're in the business, if you're around it, you can see it. But to the casual fan, they don't see it. Ocho, you don't know what you're talking about. can see it but to the casual fan they don't see it oh shanna you don't know what you're talking about you see when when uh bill walsh retired they won the super bowl the next year yeah so there was no there was no it was bill it was joe but they won the super bowl next year and they got to the nfc chair in uh the nfc championship it was called for three p yeah so now there's always question who's most responsible for the patriots dynasty

is it tom is it bill i think it's a little bit of both i think all i know is one guy went and got a super won a super bowl and went to the playoff every year and the other guy uh went to the playoff one year got bounced in the first round and never went back to the playoffs again yeah well you know i think i think on and never went back to the playoffs again. I think on Bill's behalf, you have to think the importance of the quarterback position. We all know it. Everybody in the chat that's listening, you understand how important the quarterback

position is. Now, when you're not able to fulfill that spot, then you're not able to do other things with the freedom that Bill had when Tom was in place. You have to understand. When you look at the New England Patriots and the landscape of that team throughout the years, the pieces to the puzzle

constantly change each year, whether it be offensively, whether it be defensively. But as long as you had that centerpiece in Tom there and everything ran through him, you were going to be fine. You were going to be set.

You could do any and everything because you understood he was going to protect the ball in the most crucial times and not turn it over. And all he had to do was go play defense. And what was Bill Belichick? He was a defensively, he was a to protect the ball in the most crucial times and not turn it over and all he has to do is go play defense and what was bill belichick he was a defensively he was a defensive genius he's a guru on the defense side of the ball and listen they did the best job at taking away

your best weapon they were the best at that and you know it's just unfortunate you know i i don't want to say i don't want to say the word i want to use egos i don't want to say egos got in the way and it was it was it was it was a damn pissing contest on who was responsible. But I think it ruined a great thing. It ruined a great thing. Of course. I think the thing is, Ocho, because you saw coordinators come and go, be it offense, defense, it didn't matter, the players.

And people are like, well, Tom, you have to understand. Everybody can't play in that system. Every great player can't play for Coach Belichick. He took players, when he goes and drafts, they're doing an evaluation about ego. Is this guy going to be okay catching one pass, two passes, one week, and then maybe not catch another pass for two or three weeks? And so you have to evaluate that because the one thing that then maybe not catch another pass for two or three weeks and so you

have to evaluate that because the one thing that you're not going to do is mope on coach belichick's time no he gonna get you up out of there so you have to understand you have to if you like i said if you know you know you and i played the game for an extended period of time so we know how that things work and i had a coach very similar now he wasn't as rigid mike was not as rigid as coach belichick but mike wasn't gonna settle for that i don't care what round you was drafted in i don't care how much money he gave you mike would get your ass up out of there yeah if you did anything that wasn't team related yeah and matter of fact the fact that you say that remember you asked me uh not too long ago maybe maybe two or three shows ago you asked me was i okay with how things were going in new england being that it wasn't a

productive season that i'm used to having you know here you look my god damn numbers every every year you already you already know what time it was i was right i was giving that work and he was like did well listen whether i was okay with it or not i understood once you walk in that building nobody even has to say anything. I don't know what it is about the Patriots and the Patriot way and you having a great understanding that you're expendable, no matter who you are. Small example.

Well, you saw it happen, Ocho. Look at all the great players that they had. They cut Lloyd Malloy on a Tuesday. Ty Law left. William McGinnis left. All those guys. It didn't matter. Yeah, it didn't matter.

Let me tell you something. You know when you can do all that? When you got that goddamn 12 sitting back there and you ain't got nothing to worry about. Because you can fill all the other roles via draft and in the offseason through free agency. But then think about this.

One of the reasons why I probably would have never, even if I didn't have this example or saw this example, Randy Moss was upset about something. I think it might have been contract. It might have been money. He was just coming off that season. What'd they do? What'd they do?

Yeah. And he said something in the media about contract, about getting paid. You remember that? I do remember that. And he went back to Minnesota. He was going what? It wasn't even 24 hours? Yeah. Oh my God. Boy, listen.

You already know what time it is. So you know I wasn't going over there cutting up. Oh, on who? One of the top three players of all time go? Well, who the fuck am I? I ain't nobody. Shit, I was walking on eggs here the whole time

well the thing was Ocho they should sell Tom Brady at at Alto Sephora because he's the greatest

he's the greatest makeup ever because he can cover he can cover up all blemishes that the Patriots had because he was so good

so he's makeup and there are there only been a handful of guys you get a guy like Patrick Mahone that can do that he's makeup. So he's makeup. And there have only been a handful of guys. You've got a guy like Patrick Mahone. He's makeup. Tom Brady, he's makeup. Those guys like that, you've got blemishes on your team, they can

hide them. They're the filter on IG. Make everything look good. And lo and behold, you hemorrhaging. You fat, you out of shape, you're terrible. But that guy can make you look good. And Tom Brady is the ultimate makeup.

And we might not ever see that again. Now, Patrick Mahomes is firing. But what Tom was able to do, I thought when he got to three in his first three or four years, I thought he could get to five. I ain't see that. I ain't see seven. And I didn't see them constantly in contention.

I mean, think about it. He lost to Peyton three times in the AFC Championship game. He lost to Eli twice. That's another five appearances. That's another five. Could have been three. That's crazy when you think about it. We talk about the NFL.

We talk about players that have played, the damn Renos, the Barry Sanders, hell, myself, T.O. I'm thinking about all the great players that have played this game for who knows how long. Never had the opportunity of playing in the Super Bowl. Or if you did play in the Super Bowl, you only played once. And then you got Tom. You got Mahomes going back over and over and over like he playing like he playing a goddamn game of Madden. Bill and goddamn Tom Brady. And I've been what?

Ten times. Ten times. Ten times. This is real life. This is not a video game. Do you know how difficult it is? Yeah, I know. Yeah, I do.

To the Super Bowl every year. Yeah. Or every two or every three or whatever it may be. They make it look so easy when the game is very difficult. To the point, I see why people question the game of football being rigged, the NFL being rigged. Because they make it look so goddamn easy. But I swear for God, I swear for God, for those of you in the chat that watch the game of football and and think oh this is gonna happen or oh this is stage or this is i trust me it's not you can't do it those individuals are just that good i swear yeah i

saw it in person for a whole year so look that's his legacy if he wants to come back but the last thing you want to see is a guy that hangs on too long. We saw Johnny Unitas. We saw Joe Namath. We saw Willie Mays staggering in the outfield. Rest your soul. We've seen some of our great players play a little bit longer than what they should. That's their career.

That's theirs. You know, whatever you choose to do, hey, when you've been a great player, if you want to go out on your term, if you want to go out like that, so be it. I'm not here to judge you. But Tom, I look at Tom like a Coach K, like a Dean Smith, like a Pat Head Summit. Unless he did something so egregious that he's just unforgivable. Right, right, right. You let him go out when he wants to go out.

That's what they did for Coach K. That's what they did for Coach Smith. That's what they did for Coach Summit. That's what they do for the greats. Coach Wooden. I believe Tom is so great of a player. He's been so great to that organization. He's been so great to the city of Boston and the surrounding areas

you let him go out on his own you're like Tom how long you want to play Tom I'm serious Ocho you do you do I mean if he was to come back I don't think it would be the Patriots

I don't think it would be and the funny thing about it and the funny thing you said about the deal with Fox and 37 million or wherever it may be Fox ain't going nowhere Fox ain't going nowhere

Fox is going to always be there being able to talk and be in that booth doing football games and commentating and breaking down games. That's always be there. But at 47, if I want to if I want to fulfill that childhood dream and that that that urge to play and compete one more time. I mean, there's an opportunity and chance for him to do it because he is the one person that can do it at 47. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal.

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Listen, I'm not... You know, I don't wish injury on nobody. You know, I show love and I praise everybody. I always take it back to nutrition. I think about our days when we played we had two days, we practiced two hours and thirty minutes a day we didn't fall like flies

we didn't fall like flies like this I don't know what it is and I don't want to spin it in any wrong way out of respect CBA protecting the players, practices are much shorter now, they have all these professional nutritionists and all these meal plans and all this stuff. But for some reason, now when we practice and we played, we had two days.

We practiced for two hours and 30 minutes in the mornings, took a break, rested, and had another two hours and 30 minute practice after. And we played football. No disrespect to today's game we play football we weren't falling like flies now injuries are going to happen do you know how many injuries has been since training camp started we are in week one almost a week and a half yeah and that's and that's probably why you know a lot of the starters oh we play we might not play game one we play 10 plays the next day we play like 20 played. We might have not played game one. We played 10 plays. The next play, we played 20 plays. The third game...

We're playing all the way to halftime. We're going to halftime and probably the first drive of the third quarter. Yeah. In the fourth quarter, we relax. Then the fourth game, we're not playing at all. We get ready for week one.

I wanted to play Ocho because I needed to get my rhythm. I was a rhythm player. Obviously, offense is rhythm, but I was a rhythm player. I needed steps. I needed the cadence. I needed to feel people banging on me. Not guys in camp on my team. Right, right, right.

I needed somebody else to see. I needed to see something else. I needed to see guys moving that were trying to make the team awesome. At game speed. Yeah, yeah. At game speed. I needed that. But I just think, Ocho, for us, you're asking these guys to like, you know what?

Come in. We're not going to do anything. Not going to do anything. And then a month later, go 100 miles an hour. Yeah. Yeah. I just think you're asking an awful lot and maybe the guys they train too damn much damn they don't get anybody's chance to heal you think i took time off once the season was over i took a good month i ain't do nothing four to five weeks i ain't do nothing yeah i took about i took about i took about two months

and then i was starting to gradually build back up. Now, I was lifting. I do a little light lifting, but I wasn't doing any running. And then the running, I would gradually build up, gradually build up. So by the time May hit, now I'm about 75%,

80%. Now, June, I'm going to ramp that thing up to get to about 95%, and then I'm going to start tapering it back down, getting ready to go to camp, make sure I ain't got no tweets, no anything. Because the last thing you want to do is go into camp nicked. No, you don't want that. You don't want to go into the season. If you limp into the season, you're going to limp out of it.

Because how do you get healthy, Ocho, when you've got to practice every day? And the games come like this here yeah back to back back to back hopefully the rookie bounces back because he looked like he was off to a promising start I know that's not what he envisioned for his rookie season but hey

bro yeah he'll learn a lot but what the Vikings do need to do or what they do need to do, and this is no disrespect to what they have on the roster that's left. Now, who do we expect to be the starter now? Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold? No disrespect to him.

No disrespect to him, but we've seen the small sample size of what he brings to the table. No, we've seen large sample size. Okay. Well, I'm calling what he's done so far a small sample size because it hasn't been much and that and i mean no disrespect you know the eye in the sky don't lie the film doesn't lie and i mean that in the most respectful way sam i i love you now what they need to do is to get

a veteran because number 18 is a veteran no i mean i mean you know what you're talking about what nick mullins you know nick mullins heins, he's with Shanahan and Ocho. The thing is, it's hard to get veteran players because they cost so much. They can't do 18 like that over there. They got to get a young fella, somebody. They got to give him some type of gunslinger. They got to give him some type of security, some type of something, because what's going to happen is the numbers are going to,

the numbers are going to, the numbers are going to, to what's the word I'm looking for? Decrease. They're going to decrease because of who's at the helm. They got to get him somebody in there. I don't, I don't know. Where's,

where's, where's Garoppolo? I don't know. Where's Jimmy G in Atlanta? He's in Atlanta. I don't know where he's at. I'm just somebody who can hell Fitzpatrick bring Fitzpatrick out of retirement

nah it's over Fitzmagic I mean you know listen he's not magic Durant oh he's at the Rams oh he is yeah but he's behind Stetson Bennett cause it's Stafford Bennett and then Jimmy G Jimmy can sling that thing man the porn star Jimmy can sling that thing yeah I. The porn star Jimmy can sling that thing.

Yeah, I thought he was going to be at the AVP convention. They need to go get him. I'm telling you, at some point in the season, Justin Jeffries, he going to act a fool. He going to act a fool. As much as

Jack Prescott's contractual future has been a constant talking point in the off season, he says he's not consumed by it. I'm not putting that much thought into it. Hoping it gets done now, hoping it gets done in a couple of weeks during the season or whenever it happens. I just know conversations are on the, are on the right way.

That can then the final year of his deal. He said to make $29 million count 55 million against the cap without an extension that will hit the free million, count $55 million against the cap. Without an extension, Dak will hit the free agency market and count $40 million against the Cowboys cap in 2025. What he has, Ocho, they cannot franchise it.

Right. They can't trade him either. They cannot trade him. So he has all the power. Yeah. Yeah. Which, you know what? Which, think about this.

How many times are players in a position where they had the team by the balls? Think about it. Not often. Not often. Not often at all. I mean, it's a chess move. If I was Dak, uh, I mean, what do you do? What would you do if he was Dak? Me, myself, if I was Dak and understanding the circus that comes with being a part of the star, I would better myself like he's always done. Like he's always done. Well, he got no choice now, Joe, because I don't think they're going to get it done. Because what he's looking for, he's looking for $60 million. He's looking to reset the market. He's looking at something around five years, $300 million. So he should be able to do it.

And I think that's what's holding up CD's deal as well. So, I think that's the thing, Ocho. That's what they're looking at. Huh? 60? He's looking at 60 million. He's looking to reset the market. Well, if you're going to reset it, let's go 56 a year. No, that

ain't resetting the market. 55, you got three guys making 55. In order to reset it, you got to go 60. I'm just telling you, because here's the thing, Ocho, and Jeremiah says I'm not willing to go there, but in free agency, in order to get it to you, he might get 65.

In order to get a player to leave the situation that he's currently in, you're going to have to overpay. Hey, yeah, most definitely. Every time. And this is the wonderful thing about the NFL, too. Depending on when when a player's time is up, because very few times do you get to a position where you are a it's unrestricted. Right. Am I saying it right? Yeah, he will be unrestricted, unrestricted, free agent very few times, especially the quarterback. With no chance of the tag being placed on you. Nothing.

So that means you're getting every, every bit of dollar plus some, because whenever, especially somewhat a quarterback like the caliber of, of that Prescott, which some will make fun of and say, well, he hadn't done anything.

Listen, he changes the dynamic of a team because there's no one else you can put in his place on the cowboys right now except maybe the top five or five or six quarterbacks in nfl and they would still do the same thing and probably a little further in the postseason but that is all right i had to catch off but we got a very very special guest we got we got the olympic 400 meter hurdle champ that's right that's about there for He came back and redeemed himself. He said, I'm coming back.

When I had the conversation with him in 2021. I've been coming with the looks like you. What's up, baby? He said he's coming back. He wanted revenge. He's been chasing Karsten Warhol, the world record holder, for the better part of three years. And he finally

tracked him down. The Norwegian and the Rye. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, your 400-meter hurdle champ with a time of 46-46, Rye Benjamin. Yes, sir. Nephew, what's going on? I'm living the dream

right now, Unc. Living the dream, brother. Let me ask you this, Rye. Obviously, you have an outstanding season. You've been performing really, really well. Give us your mindset going into the Olympics. You had raced him, I think you raced him once before at a Diamond League meet

pre-Olympics. And so you had to feel good because you beat him. And you had beaten him three times since he last beat you, I think, at the Olympics. Budapest, yeah, in Budapest. They won Budapest last year and then we went to Prefontaine. I won that meet. Then we went to

Monaco before the Olympics. That was a big one. We were all there. I won that one. Going into the Olympics, I felt really confident. I was calm. I really trusted myself. I think mentally I was in a way different confident. I was calm. I really trusted myself. I think mentally I was in a way different place than I was.

I could tell. Yeah, previous years and previous seasons. So, I mean, I just, I went in, I had the confidence, you know, like I felt good. The energy in the stadium was ridiculous. It was actually like, I've been to a lot of football games. I've been to Death lot of football games i've been to i'm in the death valley lsu okay and i have never heard a stadium get that loud in my entire life it was crazy that's though so it was it was it was phenomenal phenomenal experience so um just you know i went in with

a completely different mindset and i was like yeah like i'm i'm the guy to beat and the only person that's going to beat me is me so yeah yeah i have a question speaking of that race at the olympics did you understand his strengths and weaknesses and did you have any type of strategic game plan going into that race and knowing what to do and when when to kind of hit it when to back off man what were your plans in general i think so over the past three four years we've raced so much so i have seen every single race plan every race strategy and i think for me uh work the three of us are so good that very little separates us. And it's, it's about who can be on,

on that day, who's going to get it on that day. And I think, you know, throughout the entire cycle of the semis, I mean, the heat semis finals, um,

you know, I got dealt the right hand and, and those guys ran out, ran fast, like the first two rounds. So I knew being out in lane eight i was going to be the one to kind of dictate what the race would look like so in my head i was like all right like i need to i need i need to really push the pace but not do

too much so i have enough to come home that last 120 meters when when when when we got out like i he gets out really really hard so he covered me a little bit right and my whole thing was all right just run in lane eight like focus on your your 10 hurdles in your lane and get off that turn like put your foot in the ground and just go go yeah and then coach watts uh quincy Watts, he has a, we have this, we joke around sometimes and he's like, yeah, if it's leaving, I'm leaving. So we got off hurdle seven and I was like, all right, man, I'm out of here, man. So whatever happens happens. And I don't know if you guys saw, but like, I was coming out coming off a seven and I stumbled a little bit.

I was running so fast that like the centrifugal force pulled me out to the outside of the lane. And I kind of like stumbled a little bit. And I think that kind of costed me like maybe 46 flat, but at the same time, like I just had so much momentum. I just kept going. So that was just, that was my, uh, that was my game plan going in, to be honest with you, just run my pattern, do what I've been doing the entire season. I mean, Unk, we talk. You know, Unk will send me a message sometimes after the race, even if it went good or bad.

So, I mean, yeah, it was phenomenal, man. I'm on cloud nine right now. I can tell. Rob, the thing that I always wondered, I say, all these guys, you look at yourself, I mean, the four fastest guys ever in Hurling history was in that race. Aberdeen Samba, Dos Santos, Warren Holmes, yourself. If I line all you guys up and I say run 100 meters, you're going to win. If I line all you guys up in a 200 and say race, you're going to win.

If I line all you guys up in a 400 and say race you're gonna win i say why don't rock put this man under the gun see it's it's it's a different so the i was the 400 and the 400 hurdles are two completely different animals really yeah it's a completely different rhythm and if it if anything it's like know, when you drive a really fast car, it just kind of wants to go all the time. Yeah. Well, you'll be in the neighborhood and there'll be a speed bump on the road and you can't really go. So you kind of like gunning it light to light. But you can't really go with it up because you got no barriers.

I can't really do what I need to do because these hurdles are in my way. And I got to be on a certain pattern. And if you're not on that pattern, like you start stutter stepping. Yes. You open up and it kind of ruins the rhythm. You were just talking about how when you played, you needed to be in a certain rhythm. Yes. And you needed those games to get in that rhythm, that offensive rhythm.

So for me, it's like I need to get in that rhythm that offensive rhythm so for for me it's like i need to be on that rhythm consistently okay sometimes it requires me slowing down a little bit and no matter how strong you are you still got to get over those 10 barriers so that was the uh that's that was kind of the the the kryptonite for me I mean like even like you can see when I run open fours or even in the 4x4 like I can let it go yeah you can and I was about to ask you about that in the open four

you know Tobogo you know he's run low 44 you know he just ran 1946 he's run 986 so you know he has the strength. So when you got the baton,

what was your strategy? Because when you say what you say, I'm going to say what I thought you were going to do. Yeah, so when I got the baton, Bryce did a phenomenal job. I mean, from Chris to Vernon, you know, V had a hell of a meet.

Hell of a meet. Vern really opened it up for you. Vern did the job. That's my roommate. That's my roommate. So when Bryce brought the baton in, I mean, he was 43-5, like, on fire coming through. And I saw how close the the botswana kid was closing so i've in my head i'm like okay if when he gets the baton he's gonna be at least two steps behind me yeah

and i know he's gonna try and and and either cover me or sit on the first the first hundred so in my head i was like all right don't blast the first hundred like you usually do out in about like 10 9 10 8 so you can hold it down the back stretch that way i can get his legs moving because he's tobogo he's he's a 200 guy and he just ran 19 4 so my my whole thought process was he could probably make it to i know he can run to 300 he could probably make it to, I know he can run to 300. He could probably make it to 350. And this last 50 is going to be hot. If I could bring us through 300 at like 31 flat. So I'm like, all right, in my head, I'm just like, all right, take him out first hundred and let him spin his legs down the back stretch. And he was doing that. And like, I can hear him and it got so loud in that stadium, but I can hear him behind me.

So in my head, I'm just like, all right, stay calm, stay calm, keep that cadence, keep spinning. And he stayed at bay. And then we got to that last 120. And it looks like I was jogging, but I mean. You were open. My form's so smooth, I was open, man. And I was just like, are we going to get it this last 100? So this last, we got through 300 to to 350 and he's still at bay.

And I like kind of the crowd. You're watching the Jumbotron. I saw you. Yeah, the crowd made a sound. And usually when the crowd makes a sound, it's either somebody pulls up or somebody fell. So I looked up at the Jumbotron and I'm just like, I couldn't see him because his uniform's blue and the track is purple. And I'm so fast. So I check again and I was like, damn, he's still here. Like, hey, I got to go. So I like dug deep, got to 350 and about five, 10 meters before the line. Like I was I was i was honestly shot and it was just but he was too yeah and that's where the reps and and and being disciplined and being experienced like

comes in because i know when that happens like you're not really getting any faster that last hundred what's happening is is who's slowing down the slowest so for me it was just like man like don't get walked man like i get a gold medal on tv in front of these people because i wasn't gonna hear the end of it so um yeah i did exactly that and brought it home for them guys man so i was like real really hyped up and pumped up about that right right i'm not gonna lie i thought he was gonna cover you early i said he has the type of speed that he's going to put right under the gun quick i thought he would jump you i actually thought he would cover you over the first 100 to 150 and then get the lead and then settle down once he did and i was like i think

he might be making a mistake i say now i think go ahead no i think if i got out any slower he probably would have done that okay but i got out at such a pace where it was like it's it's kind of enticing where you kind of want to go but you know you know if you go you're gonna die so i i can really because i run hurdles and it's so rhythmic and i know how to differentiate times like i know like what threshold and and what kind of cadence to be on um so it was just it was just kind of like a bait and switch kind of deal and and just it's a it's a gamble you just you just kind of take it plays out and played out very well so and it it works perfectly especially when you know your opponent you know your opponent you know your opponent's strengths

and weaknesses and the fact that you understood his at that time you knew what to do in that race you know one of the funny things as soon as you got as soon as you got the baton as soon as you got the baton and started going i started looking does anyone else tell you your your running mechanics and your gait is is it similar to michael johnson i heard you notice that yeah like you know straight up my legs is like yeah yeah i'm like what the hell that look like i got there yeah you got to be that way because when you start tensing and you start muscling stuff like that's when you start going backwards so that's that's really the trick right there to be honest is just staying relaxed staying open and just running really, really efficiently.

Did you realize? No wasted movement, none of that. Right. We had Michael Johnson on, and I remember in Stuttgart when they broke the world record in the 400 meters. They ran 254.29. And I can go back in my head. I know Andrew Vaughn laid off with 44.5, and he went to Quincy, your and i think he ran 43 3 43 5

he had it to the world record holder at the time uh butch reynolds and he ran low 40 43 the race was blown open michael johnson got the baton he said because we had almost broke the world record when we broke it but i ran like mid 44 almost 45 because i was asking him i said mike you do realize you ran sub 43 with a 30 minute lead with a 30 meter lead and i said why he said because i didn't want to hear their mouths he said they had talked about me so bad so he ran 42.9 did you think you guys had a chance going into that race? Did you think this was going to be the second fastest 400 4x4 in

the history? I thought we could have broken it last year. So after Budapest, if you go to my Instagram, you look at my last relay post from Budapest, I was like, let's go after the world record next year because we had all the pieces. Quincy's running well, V's running well.

I mean, I could get on a relay and give you a really hot split. Michael Norman, he was coming back to run well, Chris Bailey, Bryce Deadman. And then we had little Quincy just like, you know, just shoot up out of, uh, I mean, I'm not gonna say out of nowhere, but like no one was expecting him to run 44 low. Right. And it's just phenomenal. So we had all the pieces. The issue is figuring out who to put on what leg to maximize those legs. And I think because Quincy had that little tweak in his hamstring in his final, we had to reshuffle the order.

But I knew we still had the pieces because v had split 43 because uh twice in the mix in the mix yeah and three times because he ran the mix relay twice and he opened in the qualifier yeah yeah so v had the 43 in him i knew i knew bryce had 43 in him as well too because he was consistently running 40 44 lows so i knew if if if bryce lights come on he's he's gonna bring that stick around because he's from texas nm right so he's gonna run and and it just all came down to what my leg would be i actually wanted to run second it's me because i knew if i ran second i would would run 42.8 or 42.9. Wow.

Yeah. Because I just know second leg is the best leg because you can, on that tangent, when you cut in, you can kind of cheat some meters if you do it right. Yes. That's why all them second leg splits were so fast.

I mean, you still got to be fast to be on that second leg, but if you do it right and you run a good tangent like i'm telling you you can cheat it a little bit and you can get that split so um initially so when that happened you know you know coach mike marsh came and was just like hey man like i need a dog on ankle leg because yeah you you had to be on anchor i don't know i don't mean to cut you off but i don't know if anybody could have held to be able to go off other than you because you like you said you have a strategy

he didn't put you under the gun because of your pace i think somebody else would have panicked and if you panic in that situation he's gonna chase you down like the great britain did uh antonio pedigree we saw a good friend of mine, Angelo Taylor, same thing in the Olympics. If you panic on that anchor leg, because everybody got their boy dog on the anchor. So everybody can go sub 43, could go sub 44 on an anchor leg. And so you. Every single guy's first leg was 43. Them boys came to run.

They really came. They were not playing around came to run they were not playing around man they were not playing around I did not see this I did not see 254 35 I damn sure didn't see the women challenging the Soviets because I wasn't enough to see that

remember that race in Seoul when the Soviet women and it was Flojo and the 400 meter champ on anchor leg. What are the asterisks on the Soviet, man? Listen, hey, they weren't there, so they're not there for real.

I mean, you ran 43.13. Tobago runs 43.03. That's the fastest split that you've ever run by far. Did you know? I mean, think about it now. You just run 44-46 through the rounds, qualified, did what you needed to do.

The night before. The night before. Yes. Did you know you had that in your legs? Not really, to be honest with you. In my head, I'm just like, yo, man, like I need to, I like when he, when we both got the stick, I was like, I don't know if the broadcast showed it, but I like turned in the stands and I just started to smile. And I'm like, yeah, this is about to be

crazy. And I'm like, yeah, I got, I got locked in for this one. But I mean, when it comes to the relays, like I'm, I'm usually, that's the fun part. Like I always tell people that's the fun part. The hard part is doing your individual event. The fun part is when you get all those guys together. And although we're there as a team track and field is an individual sport. So it's just one of those things where you have a moment to share as a team. And I think that's where I thrive is when we come together as a team and, and, and share like this experience. So when I got the stick in my head, I'm like,

I can't let these boys down because they did their job. So I got to do my, and, and, and bring home gold for team USA. So that was just, that was, that was the focus for me, but I had no idea. We got the backstretch. My agent was on the backstretch and i was like what did i split he was like 43 13 i was like there's no way but it was a it was i just i couldn't believe it because like after i got done like i wasn't on the floor i mean i had a little bit of lactic acid but i just feel like i was just so excited you were floating bro it's like man it was just it was

definitely you were definitely floating can i ask you this can i can i get you to the women you had femka you had ced and everybody's trying to build this thing up because femka won the indoor she ran 49 17 we saw ced who really she's run 2207 in the 200 meters which is still like the eighth or ninth fastest time ever covered by covered by a woman in 2024. We saw her run 4875. It's just slightly off the American record. Why were they trying to build this up when Femke has never been close to see it? I think because the week prior, they Femke went to this meet and had run 50.9.

She did it by herself. I think what people neglected about that, although 50.9 is ridiculously fast. She did a phenomenal job just navigating 10 hurdles by herself doing that. I think what people neglected about that meet because a lot of fast times came out of that meet it was at altitude yeah and a lot of people don't realize when you're at altitude you have less resistance yeah in the air so that's why that kind of hype came and you kind of want to build the hype around the event too as well too because femke was running well all year and it seemed as though that she was the one

to give sydney a run for her money but sydney is like she's like man like but you seen john wick yes coach coach holloway from from florida called me john wick i call sydney john wick she just listen she's gonna kill you every time, man. And if she doesn't, it's going to be, you're going to have to, it's going to have to be an act of God for her to lose a race. But here's the thing.

Every world record Sid has set, she's been running by herself. It's not like she's getting pushed. It's not like somebody's going over hurdle nine with her. I think the only time Dalila Muhammad pushed her, I think the last Olympics, Dalila Muhammad pushed her. But if you look at Sid's record at Prefontaine, you look at her at the USA's, you look at her at this beat,

ain't nobody close. Yeah. I mean, she just runs with such confidence, you know, and I feel like at a certain point you could teach so much. And then after that, it's just pure God given talent, man. And she just has that and that you can't teach, can't instill in anybody. You're just born with that. And there's just nothing you could do about that at all. Let me ask you this. Tell me if you agree or disagree i think ced finishes out this

year maybe she runs one meet maybe she runs another meet and she does the world championships in the 400 hurdles but i think after that i think bobby gonna move her down to the no barriers and she's gonna go after that 47 60 by moderinat? I think she does it next year. I think she does it next year. I mean, it's like, what else does she need to accomplish in the 400? That is so far out of reach. I feel like she will, for fun,

run it once and maybe... She tried to go sub-50? She goes sub-50, but I mean, she's proven. She broke the world sub 50, but I mean, like, she's proven, like, she broke the world record twice this year, you know? It's like, she doesn't have anything else to prove in the event. So, I mean, I, like,

why not go run the four next year? I feel like that would be my thought process. Like, let's go try something else. And, yeah. You never know. It's Bobby, you know? Bobby, listen is bobby you know bobby listen he you know he just he that man is trying to leave legacies yeah yeah so i mean i don't see why not it's not far-fetched paulino el nasr she got some i mean paulino just ran 48 17 which is what

i think it might be the third or fourth fastest time ever run for a woman in the open for. Yeah. You got Cratchalova. You got Cole. And I think her that 48, 17, that might be the that might be the third or third or fourth for female covered 400 meters. I know that. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, listen, I think I think Sydney gets locked in and honed into an event and she figures out out that rhythm, and they really hone in on a pattern to do it. It's dangerous because she's 22-0 open at the foot speed. And she ran 10-9, if I'm not mistaken, when she was at Kentucky at UF. Raining outside. It was crazy. So she could come through easy.

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Join me and the rest of the crew every Wednesday for a new episode. Listen to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Coach O, what you got for us? again congratulations that's that's that's all i got man i'm happy just to hear the stories you know and uh that that feeling and watching you run that last leg bro man so kudos salute congratulations there's really not much more I can say or ask at this point. I'm just happy for you and look forward to all future endeavors, man, on that track. Yes, sir. You know, Michael got this track series.

Are you going to join that, Rye? Hey, reach out, brother. The money, the money, the money. Reach out, man. I money, the money, the money. Reach out, man. I had some conversations with Kyle. He's he's he's working with Michael as well, too. So I like what they're doing. I feel like this Olympics and this year was really pivotal for track and field.

And it really it really got some we got some new eyes on the sport and people interested. So it doesn't stop for us at the Olympics guys. Like it just, we have a whole season and we have this coming up. So all those head to heads that you saw at the Olympics, like you can see them on numerous occasions throughout the year. And, and Sid's going to be on that circuit as well, too. I know one of the first ones that Michael signed as well, too. So I know a lot of people like give her a lot, a lot of, uh, grief about not racing enough during the year. Well,

you're going to see her race there. So tune in. But they reach out to me. Hey, I'm in there. You feel me? Are you good? Do you have any more meets?

I know there are a couple of diamond league meets still left in the season. Are you going to, I know you don't like going overseas. You don't like that long plane ride, get off a plane, head to the track and go run. You don't really like that, but are we going to see right in any diamond league meet?

Nah, I'm done for this year. You go ride this wave. You go ride this wave. I'm going to ride this wave out, man. Like I don't think people understand the, the level of mental commitment and, and gymnastics that you got to be at throughout the entire because i started competing monday so i went monday through sunday right and uh it was me vernon shelby mckeown the high jumper uh michael norman bryce we're all in the same room

so i mean i mean we we're all just kind of feeding off each other so it's a it's a lot to mentally be in the room that entire week and and and just to come down from it and the nerves and whatnot. Like it's it takes a lot. Like imagine competing, playing at the Super Bowl for an entire week. That's literally what it was. So I'm going to take this time to enjoy it. Enjoy it with my mom because she was out there and I feel like this one was like really big for her. I feel like i'm still trying to conceptualize what happened this entire week so i mean i'm gonna do that see my friends see my family and just just really just you know enjoy this because i'm olympic champ and

you know a lot of people work their entire lives for this and i was able to achieve that not once but twice this week so i'm gonna i'm gonna live it up and I'm going to enjoy it. And yeah. Oh, Joe, you didn't know this, but Rye was a quarterback. Rye, what made you give up quarterback? I played wide out, man. I was a wide receiver. You were a quarterback?

My dad said the wrong thing. I played wide receiver and free safety in high school. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So why did you give up football and went to the track because i'm from new york and people out of new york don't get good scholarships to go to big d1 schools okay yeah yeah so i was like i ran track and it was like you know like i wasn't really getting we weren't getting good recruits or recruiters coming out to my high school because

we were small high school in Westchester County in New York. So, you know, we had one or two guys like, you know, go to big universities, but it wasn't like we were going to like LSU or USC or Clemson, you know what I mean? So it was just one of those things where, you know, that was my avenue out, you know? And I was really good at track my freshman

year so i just stuck with it so you originally went to ucla then transferred to us three years i thought about walking on to be honest with you but they were like yeah you gotta give up your track scholarship because of title nine there's no way in hell yeah but uh yeah like a part of me wish i played in in in college yeah to be honest with you um i'm not gonna pull a tyreek and say like you know i'm fast and nor i can go yeah how you know i'm gonna ask you that how you know i'm gonna ask you that do you believe i'm gonna say on the show i'm tired of the no allow slander man that's my talk to us talk to us about it i'm tired of the slander i'm not saying like i can go out and do what you guys

do and catch a ball across the middle i know how hard it is i know how hard it is to read plays and and and memorize stuff and and go out there and put your body at risk every day but tyreek you're not beating no and 100 man there's just no way in hell. You probably won't even beat the top collegiate guys, man. He too heavy. He too heavy, right? Well, not now. But if he were to drop down, he's 195.

If he got down to one like 170. Fred is about 195, 200 pounds. But Fred, how tall is Fred? Fred's like what, 6'1"? 6'2"? Yeah. Tyreek, 5'9".

At 195. You think he's really 195? Yes, he's solid as F. Yeah. He's solid. Okay. He rocked up. Little rock.

So you think, let me ask you a question. Who do you think could make it on the football team could noah play football could fred play fred play football for the longest yeah i think fred fred 100 could play football donald scott triple jumper okay football he played at michigan state what came up um who else could play football if i if i we got a lot of good athletes on the team man like like i think vernon turner could play football? If I, if I, we got a lot of good athletes on the team, man. Like,

like I think Vernon Turner could play football as well to another high jumper. Uh, Javon, like we, we got some athletes. We got some actual athletes. I can get you, I can get you a wide receiver trial,

right? If you want it. Hey man, listen, no, no, you're not finna mess them legs up. No,

I do. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm on a go route. I'm on a go around i'm on a go route man that's all i need that go i'm out here like this no you gotta tell us that world record that work i mean right how close are you to get the world record for 45 94 everything's gonna have to be perfect yeah everything has to be perfect. You would have the right condition, right track, right people in the race.

I feel like I'm at a fitness level to do it right now because when we ran the world record in Tokyo that year, I split 43.5 on the relay and I just split 43.1. So the fitness is there. I think it just comes down to, like

I said, getting that rhythm in. I think it just comes down to, like I said, like getting that rhythm in. I think for me, it was more so about getting the metal than it was running at time. Okay. And I think now, because now I got the- You got the metal. The elusive color, I can now freely go about and just, you know, just go out and just let it loose

and see what happens. So now I can kind of shift my focus a little bit go about and just, you know, just go out and just let it loose and, and, and see what happens. So now I could kind of shift my focus a little bit and, and, and, and try to go after that. But, um, that's a conversation for, for next year. Next year is going to be a long year and a long season. So we'll see. So you're done. So let me ask you a question. When will you resume training? Okay. You say you're done. Your track season is over. You're going to take a take a month off you take two months off you wait to the top of the year what what does right do in the meantime you don't do indoors do you no no i don't do indoors i i'm gonna take a month about a month off uh i cycle i started cycling last year okay that's dope that's dope

yeah i'm gonna do that uh here and there. Met a great group of people out here in LA. You mean motorcycle or road bike? Bike. Like an actual bicycle. Road bike. I'm going to do that. I won't start practice until November, around November 5th. The season goes until late September next year.

Okay. Tokyo. World Championship. World Championship. Yeah, bro. If we had quincy we talked to quincy now you get you quincy verne deadman y'all gotta go 253 and it'll be another 30 years before somebody get it yeah we could i believe we could do it

i mean like like i told quincy before i left i was like bro, like you, you Olympic champ dog, like take care of you, take care of your body, make sure you're healthy because like this is like that. What he did was crazy. Yeah. Crazy. I never seen like he really got that dog in the light. He does.

When you're close to A-Fund, I need you to dig deep. Yeah. He in the dictionary. They got a picture of Quincy Hall he's gonna do it so I mean we can do it we stay healthy next year and keep this momentum going like it was just it was

great energy in the team I can tell bro it was great I think but like across the board like different sports i mean we were cheering each other on it was it was the team energy too was wrong it was infectious down in in that camp so it was it was i mean you look at cole harper what he did in the 1500 meters you look at grand fincher what he did in the five and the ten I lost my voice that night cheering for that boy man

so man it was one of the best experiences of my entire life it was the best track meet of my entire life so Ryman thanks for joining us hey guys do us a favor make sure you go follow Ry on IG at King Ben

Ry Brock congratulations man you know I'm proud of you nephew man good man. Good luck. Enjoy your time off. The Olympic champ, Rob Benjamin. Man, thanks for joining us. That payment's on the way. Hey, thank you. Don't spit it all in one place.

Man of his word. Huh? Don't spit it all in one place. Nah, nah, no. I'm going to follow in the wise footsteps of Grant Holloway and I'm going to donate some of it to a good cause

that I'm passionate about. So, yeah. Again, congratulations, man. Thanks for stopping by Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. I know our subscribers, our watchers, our viewers, our listeners, they were supporting you all the way. So thanks for coming on, sharing some insight, what

was going on in your head, the atmosphere, the ambiance of the Olympics. Again, congratulations. Enjoy your time off, and we'll see you down the road. Thank you. And shout out to the editors, man. Y'all got it right this time. We got it right this time?

Man, hold on Y'all got it right this time. We got it right this time? Hold on. The dude got Bailey on his bib. How the hell you confused Bailey and Benjamin? And I'm not light-skinned either. Oh, hell no. Oh, no. But you got him a reprieve.

Come on, bro. Y'all can't have a gap that big. Look at that. There they go right there. Again, congratulations, man. Enjoy your time off, man. Thank you. Olympic gold medalist in the 400-meter hurdles, Rod Benjamin.

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