Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Tony Allen DOUBLES DOWN on LeBron COMMENTS + Bam LEAVES LeBron Off TOP 5 List + LeBron COMPARES Himself to Rolling Stones + AD and LeBron NEVER Worked Out Together
Episode Date: August 3, 2026 Iso Joe Johnson and Josh Smith bring on Tony Allen to talk about LeBron comments, Jeremy Pargo joins to talk to Bam leaving LeBron off Top 5 list, LeBron comparing himself to the Rolling Stones ...and AD & LeBron never worked out together! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI...0:00 - Viral IG mishap 00:00 - Introduction18:37 - Tony Allen in the headlines about LeBron being an overrated defender24:54 - Bam leaves LeBron off his all time top 5 list and Jeremy Pargo Joins Nightcap35:00 - LeBron compares self to the Rolling Stones42:20 - Lakers Assistant Coach says Anthony Davis and LeBron never worked out together (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm your host, Iso Joe, and y'all already know it's the ISO takeover.
And my co-hosts, on ATL's very own, straight out of Collip Hard.
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Hey, one of the toughest competitors I ever played against.
I ain't going to lie to y'all.
a six-time all defensive team selection, the NBA champion with the Boston Celtics,
the heartbeat for those Memphis Grizzles teams that everybody remembers as the grid and grind era,
missed the first team himself.
Mr. Tony Allen, what's at to play, boy?
Oh, man.
I appreciate y'all happening, man.
Much love, man.
Hey, man.
Appreciate you for joining us, bro.
Man, you know it's only right, man.
I got to come sit on with a real end.
You talking about, hey, I was going to tough.
Hey, man, nigga had get real good sleep thinking you, bro.
One no going to the night hours spots up there in Atlanta.
I got good rest coming to Atlanta, man.
Hey, hey, hey, we appreciate you, bro,
for taking some time out to join us.
And I already know, you already know you was one of the toughest
Kobe Gayee, you probably said you was the toughest ever guard him.
I mean, man, listen, what you got going, bro?
Man, no, man, right now, I'm just really just, man.
I was holland at Josh the other day, man.
I've just been really putting a lot of time
and trying to, you know,
getting my son to answer to the test
and trying to get to the league, man,
trying to...
That's it, that's all, man.
Just putting a lot of time into that, man.
Me and Smooth talk about that all the time, bro.
We got the blueprint.
We got to pass it along.
You know what I mean?
A. T.A. tell me something, bro.
Did you ever think...
Did you ever think they were retired your jersey in Memphis, bro?
Yeah, honestly.
No, man, considering even how I got there, man.
You know, I'm not everybody familiar with free agency.
During that time, I had just left Boston.
Yeah.
And I left the 2010 finals.
And Kobe, that was my assignment.
He shot probably one of his worst percentages in the playoff alone, his whole career.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think when I left there, I thought that I was going to resigned back.
And I ain't won't nothing but a third year.
You know what I'm saying?
I wasn't trying to go eat the market like that.
I was just, hey, man, just give me a third year.
Yeah.
I thought they took a lot of interest in Nate Robinson.
And then they was about to draft Avery Bradley.
So I think that the Canada was like trying to go a different way without disrespecting me
by trying to give me the same deal that I had.
And I know I outplayed my deal.
Hey, but, but Tia, you was a bucket at Oklahoma State, bro.
Oh, yeah, shut out, O State.
Hey, you was a bucket at O State.
What?
Tell me, when you came into the league, I guess you were like, man, damn this.
I'm just going to lock in.
Like, what made you take on that role?
Because a lot of cats don't like that.
They want the glitz and glamour.
the threes, the he-h-h-h-h-h-h-ha.
You feel me?
So for you to be able to sit in that chair
and really steady-cast defensively,
like what was it?
What was it at Bruchy?
It was your upbringing.
You're from the shot, ain't you?
Born-or-race.
Come on, what was it, bro?
What was the upbringing?
Because I did some boys out there
in the shot getting money now.
Yeah, for sure.
I can't affirm.
My upbringing was pretty much everything.
Shout out 95th Street, man.
Lone Holmes, man, to be exact.
Juan Howard, a lot of people don't know, man.
He used to live four doors down the street from me.
That's my guy.
And seeing him actually go to the league, come back in that Bentley,
Azores, build that court, that's all I need to see.
I say, y'all, this basketball thing can't take you somewhere.
And so big shout out to Juan Howard just for putting that platform for me.
Because outside of my neighborhood, you got a wicked jump shot or you know the rest.
You see what I'm saying?
So I had that mentality to try to, you know, survive the survival mode pretty much.
Toughness came from just coming outside.
But, man, I can't front.
When I got to Boston, I mean, Oklahoma State, I had already knew.
I thought I was a prolific school.
That's what I thought in my mind.
But when I got to Boston, it was like, okay, you got to pass the ball, young, man.
And I caught on to that quick.
And right after that, you know, I got injured, bro.
A lot of people don't know I took my ACL, man, off a time.
I mean, dead ball play.
And from there, man, it was just like, how do I survive?
league. And Josh, know me and Josh was in the rookie all-star game. Hey, Josh, y'all
style. Yeah, y'all came in the same time or you was a year ahead of him. Yeah, no,
we came same year. Same draft class. Hold on, hold on. But T.A., Josh, T.A. was on
a team when we played against the Celtics. When we were the A-C., they were in one-seat.
I ain't getting no burst. Yeah, yeah. I ain't getting no burst. You ain't got a nice little
bit. He got a nice little bitly after that. I didn't do that. Yeah. Hey, hey, T-A. Hey, hey.
They won by that nice little chick that gives me.
Hey,
tell me something, T.
Who taught you the most do out there championship run, bro, playing with boss?
I mean, you walk in the room, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen,
Rondo, like, who taught you the most out of all of them cats, bro?
Well, at the time, me and Rondo, we was learning at the same time.
Rondo had just playing behind Sebastian Telfield.
He lived it.
He was hot on the mother.
Every day he would tip me out, I bone all these things.
I know my A. Boone Coom, me him and Perth.
That's how we were rocking, right?
We were the youngest.
So when they had universities, they had Ticket University,
they had Ray University, they had Paul University.
Yeah.
The truth of universe I mean.
So I gravitated to pee on the simple strengths that,
you know what, I need to be trying to stick guys like this throughout the league.
Because when you look at that payroll sheet,
you know damn well you ain't supposed to be hitting what so many attempts.
So for me, it was like, all right, when Doc Kemp,
me doing a little too much.
Like I'm in Chicago somewhere.
Yeah.
To the side and say, hey, man, look around, man.
Do you make 25 million, do you make 30 million, do make 25 million.
Do you think you should be shooting the first shots of these games?
Don't you think you should be passing, rebound and hitting the lane,
shooting low clock shots and giving you some in the lane stills?
I said, you're right.
And that way I picked it up for us.
So if anybody, I got to give it to Doc by just straightening my mental,
because a lot of cats in the league coming to lead and don't know.
how to adjust, don't know how to adjust to something new, and it be uncomfortable for it.
For me, I say, shit, I got to get out how I live.
And so Ray would do things like, man, come to the gym early, get shots up, read books, cold
tub, hot tub, just meditating.
I was like, okay, I know I ain't fair to be reading no damn book, but I like how he
get ready.
So, so, so I'm looking over, I'm looking over, I'm saying, I ain't in a university, but I
fuck with it.
I might take a few class, but I look at Ticket, you know, Ticket, he has.
over there, you know, all focus
don't want to say nothing real.
Yeah, yeah.
I say, man, hold on, man.
I came a long way from that.
I'm going to go to another universe.
So I met P. University, we turn,
we loud.
What's up? Yeah, we ain't going.
We don't kidding.
Matter of fact, we ain't dapping hands today
when we come out.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, he'll be on that type of time,
and it was just like some, man, let's go.
And I gravitated to P, man,
and fell up under his wing,
and I just felt like,
if I can guard P, man,
I could guard anybody in the league, bro.
And we used to play warrants every day, bro.
I swear every day.
Hey, no cap, T.A.
Look, you know, I had him.
My rookie year was Paul Pierce fifth year.
He had just got that big Max deal like $96 million.
So you couldn't tell him nothing.
You hear me?
You couldn't tell the boy.
So look, you coming there.
I'm watching him in games, practice T.A.
I'm like, man, how are he getting this off with this little weak-ass jab?
He just hitting people with it.
He just jabbing and then go like, how he's at practice T.
T.A.
I'm trying to learn that.
I want to know how to get me some easy buckets too
because it was cash every time.
Smooth.
I watched this man.
We played against the New Jersey Nets.
This was my rookie year.
This one had Jay Kidd, Kenyon Martin, all them.
Man, P had like four points in the first quarter.
I can't make this.
I mean, the first half.
He was ass trashed, T.A.
Man, finished the game with 48.
I'm talking about in the second half,
he was just going crazy.
So being around that,
bro seeing that at early age seeing how a guy like paul pierce work bro i try i try to i try to pick up any
any and everything i can just like you say you're hanging around p you're trying to see how he think
how he moved here you know what i mean trying to gain an advantage at any point and that's how i was bro
all the great cats i played with whether it was stephan marbury whether it was steed nash whether
it was sean marion whether it didn't matter it was if it was something that i felt like i could
steal from that game, bro, and put it into my own to enhance my game.
Boy, I'm doing that all day long.
Another story for y'all.
Another story for y'all.
Because you play with Kevin Garnett.
Yes, indeed.
One of my favorite guys to play against Smooth.
You already know the series that we had.
And him and Smooth went at it.
But I had a chance to play with him, too.
In Brooklyn, bro.
And the first day I met him, Smooth, we come to gym.
It's September.
We are going to play pickup.
You know, we getting ready for the season.
We end up playing pickup.
We got Andre Blash.
Andre Blash, pop, he hit a three.
You know, Andre Blas, talking stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he talking stuff.
Him and KG guarding each other.
They come down and run a pick and roll, hit KG at the top of the three.
He shot it.
He shot the three, made it.
He said, I've been working on my shit, too.
I've been working on my shit, too.
Hey, hey, that's him, Joe.
All that's him.
Hey man, listen
Just having his presence around, bro
It meant everything for us, bro
Like he done
He done so much
By not even have to do a whole lot
On the court
You know what I mean
But just by him being out there
His presence, him being vocal
Keeping everybody in order
It was great
So I know you probably learned
A whole lot from him
Yeah, hey listen
Any pick and roll I was in
It gave me that much
Energy and aggressiveness
To not get rejected
You know what is going over this screen
you got a running the big fella.
I ain't tripping on nothing you doing.
And so I liked it there.
Back then, you know, Josh, I know you know y'all went,
we did shows.
We did the show and get back.
Yeah, yeah.
It was never drop coverage.
It was never drop coverage.
Never drop.
How y'all even feel about that in today's game, man?
That's crazy, man.
That's a lazy coverage.
That's a lazy coverage.
Yeah, and guys want switching everything like they do.
Now, that's why we should do the show, get under or get over,
you know what I mean?
Because think about it smooth.
I can't say you should switch a lot, though.
Yeah, we switched a lot because we had like sizes, you know what I mean?
Yeah, it's easy to do it then, yeah.
Yeah, it wasn't a lot of teams doing that back then, bro.
You know what I mean?
Things are a lot different now.
Hey, T.A., give us a championship story, bro, that you probably, you know, a good one.
Some, maybe you have told something you probably ain't told.
Give us a good championship story.
Championship story.
Man, how they ran out of champagne on championship night, man.
We stopped putting up.
Get out of here.
And shit on each other.
like they only had a 12 cases of them all.
Hey, I'm thinking we feel to be passed out all night, man.
For the end of the night, man, I think I had a 40 ounce of St.
eyes, man.
Hey, man, they ran out of Shamp, man.
That's the whole thing, man.
That's all the thing, man.
That's all the whole thing you remember.
I say, man, but now I can't front, though.
That day, though, winning the championship, I can't front.
It made me realize how hard it is to win, man.
How hard it is to get everybody collectively.
on one page and guys to buy in and drop ego and it's a lot that go in the winning and i didn't
play that much in the time that we won but i played a lot in 2010 run but just looking at both
them and how hard it is and getting there because i know how i feel the loo know how i feel the win
but what i'm saying is the buy-in the buy-in is so key you get what i'm saying yeah i'm talking about
the camaraderie off the court and on the court them all them guys went ball p went ball man
that's at the second unit like we're not going ball you're not going ball you're not going ball
So just that alone for them to back in, cut their facial head,
just be on more serious time when we go out, you pop out,
all right, man, come on, make sure y'all get y'all ass up.
We're going to work out tomorrow, like, tick ahead.
That on, like, on a lot.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
We're going to come to your city.
We're going to kick y'all laugh, we're going to have some fun,
and we get on.
We go.
Hello.
Hello.
We all doing it with the one-team one-go mindset.
And so I think that carries over, man.
The team ain't bonding off the court.
And that's your secondary family.
man i think that that will help us you know in oh eight man y'all was a hell of a team bro hell of a team boy
walka y'all y'all i know we won seven games and with y'all and y'all end up winning
after we took y'all seven cleveland took them seven and then y'all won it in less than six
so you know we kind of hang our head on that bro we we we we have a chance in boston but in the a
You're
I'm already
No sir
I'm already know
No
I'm already
Hey I'm still
Hey I'm still
I'm still
I'm still mad that you don't
bro
You ain't had to do my man
Leon Powe like that man
Oh hit him with
Oh man
T-A T-A
You know it ain't personal
It's just business baby
You already know it
You know what I said
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But I say he just
Head came off a two
A-CL surgery
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I'm sorry
Hey
man
Yeah, you built your reputation in the NBA by locking people up.
If you had to pick one player, bro, an NBA history that you wish you got a chance to guard.
Tell me, who would it be?
I don't want to be so cliche.
Mike?
Yeah, I was thinking, Mike.
I'm talking about that 92, Mike.
I'm that 93, Mike.
Yeah, I'm talking about that one, not the one when he came back and he took the time on.
I'm talking about that early on, Mike, when he was doing all this shit.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
T.A. you want something that smoke?
I would have loved it.
Because, I mean, I think I think I would have pretty much stuck him a lot like I stuck cold.
See, what cold, a lot of people don't know is I never let them go right.
You know what I'm saying?
You ain't going to right on me, bro.
If you go right, you might throw it on my head.
Yeah.
But if you go left, I know if you go left, you ain't stuck with that pump fake and that step back or whatever.
You see what I'm saying?
Got to stay down.
And if you're taking off like this on that, what?
With that left hand, I might bump you a little bit
and contests with my right.
Josh, you know what I'm talking about.
But what I'm saying is, bro, back then,
he gave you a little more,
he was too exciting back then for the game.
And I think I would have loved it, you know what I'm saying,
lock up with that excitement.
Oh, yeah, I'll feel you.
Hey, Smooth, if you had a chance,
I know, I know you, you know, when you play,
you let your man get by you because, you know,
it's just some things you can't teach in elite athletic,
I'm like damn man why you let that man beat you something to meet him at the
rim oh that was that was purpose yeah it was on purpose man dunk on me
sometimes I want to see I want to see what you had less is talking about yeah
oh that shit is a skill huh it's a skill you got to let him feel like sometimes
you got him feel like he got it he got you oh yeah let him get a step on you a
little bit and then you just got to go and meet him oh yeah you want you you
you a super elite at that a TA now we're gonna go
don't get to the little elephant that's in the room.
You know, you've been in the headline lately, you know,
about what you said about LeBron, about he's an overrated defender.
We're trying to see, man, me, the chat, smooth.
We want, we want, we want to know what's up.
Hey, so let me get this clip, bro.
Hold on.
So let me show you how this thawed out, because, you know,
we're in the rural clip, what they call it clip farm in that, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sir.
They got you.
Yes, sir.
So let me give you a day of Tony Allen, man.
I do a local show called Chris Vernon Show.
I'm a guest on there.
And this is our Grand City Media team for the Grizzlies.
And I attend that podcast every Tuesday.
So when I'm coming in, I guess the list had already came out.
I'm not too Internet savvy.
I come up and I came in 04.
We ain't had Instagram back then.
So I ain't too savvy.
Make a long story short.
They asked me, do I want to comment on this list?
I'm saying, yeah, I comment on this.
They say, well, you might not be happy because where you're
ranked. So they go through the list, and I'm going through the list. And as you could tell,
I was giving people props like Brian our test. Like, yo, he should be way higher. I'm like,
Dennis Robin, yeah, he should be number one. Or like, Gary Payton, he should be, like, I'm giving
everybody props. So there's one coming from no hating type of vibe. Right, right, right. What I was
and it's really just barbershop talk. Right, right, right, right. I thought that once they got
that low into the list, I'm like, damn, why I'm at number 50 or something? That's a lot.
time thinking in my mind.
Yeah.
And so then Brian came up.
And I'm like, hold on, but that man got 40,000 points.
Then look, about two weeks ago, he's going to, he's been shooting at Memphis for a long time.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I ain't going to laugh.
Let's bring the whole elephant out.
Call it what it is.
He's been shooting at Memphis the whole time.
Right.
Players that come in town, you ain't really trying to kick it in Memphis.
Cool, you might want to go and get something to eat, woo, but you got to get your sleep and get ready for
Grand House.
That's how I worked back in the day.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It just ain't that.
So now you're going to kill our city on the golf course.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Not only that, you're going to come at my brother and say his award should have been yours.
No, I got to say something now.
Because the list right here in front of my face is on point now, because I could have said
something when I saw it podcast.
So I took it in the road.
I said, hold on.
Let's be clear.
We both on the same amount of teams.
Every team he made, I made.
Yeah.
So you ain't talking to no local joke of that.
Right, right, right, right, right.
So I just felt like, all right, with my job, every day, what I got to do, man, to come to this court, man.
If I don't come here and make it difficult for the opponent's score, they're going to be looking at T.A. like, what's your value?
Right, right.
But my value in that era of basketball was at the point was, don't let them get their average T.A.
That's going to help our ball club.
Hello.
And so if I got to do that.
night in, night out at limited minutes.
Right.
He on the court for then in 46 minutes.
Yeah.
You mean to tell me if you got to play defense every minute you're on a second
to a guy that going to play it occasionally?
Well, T.A.
Well, T.A. T.A. We're not negating the fact that you do it better.
We think you do do it better.
But the thing is, LeBron has to do, he has so many damn jobs on the court.
Okay, he got to score the ball, smooth, I got to assist the ball.
Damn, I got a rebound the ball.
Hell, I'm leading the team in steals.
On top of all that, I got to defend the number one guy, the entire game.
That's not possible.
He can't exert all that energy and ten of these other jobs.
But guess what?
But guess what?
I'm stepping it.
But get what?
I got to do that.
And if I don't do that, hey, I'm going to be playing for the hour bulldogs in the G league.
And that's understood because it's like shit.
Damn.
T.
They ain't told all them damn jobs,
but if T.A. Lock in defensively and that's all you doing all night.
Oh, yeah.
You're going to be better than him and that.
There's no question.
You're saying he was hiring you on the list?
Had to me on the list.
And I said, and I couldn't believe it because I'm like, damn, hold on.
Man, LeBron just greedy.
He won all awards, man.
He's talking somebody down, bro.
T.A., when he's done, T.A., he's going to have them all.
He going to have them all.
He's going to have a mall, T.A.
And one thing I can't say, because I'm locked up with LeBron, too,
That time he left Cleveland, that was my assignment.
Yeah.
You what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Imagine, I'm not comparing myself to him.
He averaged 28, 7 and 7.
Let's be clear.
But what I'm saying, what I did was,
few deflections here and there in key moments,
few steels there in key moments,
cover contested shots where I know he stressed out by my contest.
That's my defense, bro.
And not only that, I, and no respect to, no disrespect.
to any guys that didn't average over a dove
when I was playing. But if you didn't average a dub
nine time ten, I wasn't sticking you.
You see a man? That's a fact.
I ain't not hit that bumping my guns saying no
out-the-bud moment. Hey, man, this is really
me on the barbershopping. And I'm pretty sure
Brian to laugh about this. And smooth.
And smooth, don't you be insinuating
the black trucks pulling up. I'm running, man.
I'm going to be in a funny, man.
I care about you, man. I just want to do it.
I just want to do a weather's check of a dog.
Hey, but think about this.
Damn, you don't think Brian got no valid point, bro.
He was first team all defense that year.
Mark Gassau won defensive player the year.
Mark Gassau was second team.
He ain't got no.
He got a, come on now.
Now, listen, all right?
I don't know why I finished up and vote.
But we talk about our peers.
We talk about our peers.
Yeah.
Man, everybody in their mom and they saw me that son of that son.
Said, bro, damn, we thought you were going to get that award, bro.
That bruce, that we're going to go.
And get what my boy Big Mark do.
He's going to win the ring and put green grand on the ring.
So he knows.
He said, hey, man, I ain't giving you my award, but I snap was on the ring.
I say, cool.
So now, Ron ain't fin to come up.
That's really me and Mark award.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, hey.
Hey, you said if you didn't get it, hell, long as one of your teammates got, you cool.
Be in the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, man, y'all had some hell of a, y'all has a hell of a, hell of a squad for the Memphis Grizzlies, bro.
You know, hey, man, we appreciate you for stopping by, bro.
I'm going to come sit down with you and my boy Zbo, man.
You know, hey, I got some real stories with me and Zbo, bro.
Yeah, hey, man, listen, we want both of you brothers on that, man.
I had to come up here, man, do the, do the, do the, hey, podcast so I can set the pick a row for out of the mud, man.
Hello.
Everybody, man, follow out the mud, man.
Y'all keep doing y'all thing, family.
Nightcapping.
All ready.
All right. T.A. appreciate you, brother.
Love.
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Yes, sir.
Hey, that boy, fool ain't a smooth.
Yes, sir.
Hey.
Yeah, that was a cool.
He ain't say, damn that.
Yeah.
I'm the one, not the two, partner.
I'm not to tell you.
First team.
Yes, sir.
Hey, smooth, check this out.
Bam out of bio leaves Lebrun.
James off of his all-time top five list.
Bam Lee, Brian, all, bro.
He, listen to his top five, smooth.
Hear me out.
He got Kobe Bryant.
He got Steph Curry.
He got Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant, and Tim Duncan.
What's up with this list, bro?
Bam, Bam, ain't messing with Brian.
You got Brian in your top five?
Brian, he probably mad if Brian ain't come down there to South Beach
to mess with him.
Oh, man.
Come on.
He left him off his top five because of that.
Might be a little salty, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but salt kills snails, not players.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Run that one more time.
I need that.
I need to say it loud for the people in the back.
What you did?
Salt kill snails, not players.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
You know, wait.
Oh, there's my man.
Go right there.
Yes, sir.
Hey, that go my boy, Jeremy.
That boy on that pimp talk tonight, Jeremy.
I don't know what he got.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hit me,
a hit me on that pimpt on the night.
I'm like, hey.
That ain't my lane, brother.
I stand my lane.
That ain't where I live.
Hey, thank you.
Thank you for joining us again, brother.
Welcome back.
Yes, uh.
You know,
you know, how you feeling, bro?
How are you feeling tonight?
Man, I'm solid, brother.
I was about going to do me a little R&B karaoke.
I get a little car.
I said, I got to go on here with my man.
Are you really?
What am I so?
Come on, man.
You know how we get down with that karaoke, man.
You didn't know where I'm going.
I'm going to karaoke.
Get me on the mic.
Hey, listen, check this out.
Man, bam.
Bam, left Brian off his all-time top-fire list.
His top-five Germans, Kobe Bryant, Stefan Curry, Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant, and Tim Duncan.
Jeremy, what's up with this list, bro?
This way you start?
This what you started with?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're getting right to it.
That's wild.
He might, I don't think he like, Brian.
You know what?
Smooth say because he ain't come to Miami.
He's like, man, I ain't.
It's got to be that.
Ain't no other reason you leave that man off your top five.
list. What do you know? You think so.
Ain't no other reason. I agree. I agree.
Because I ain't going to lie. If I had, if I do a top
five brunt, definitely enough.
Every time. I don't know.
Yeah, bam, he, he definitely must be
salted that, uh,
you know, brunned and picked the heat.
Jeremy, did you think he was going to the heat, bro?
I thought it was a possibility,
but, but I think, uh,
may as sense, they took them chocolate chip cookies, it was over.
But you ain't have Philly, you ain't have, you ain't have him
going to Philly.
Nah, I didn't have him going to Philly, but
It's really going to give him chocolate chip cookies.
So he got to go.
Hey, hey, smooth.
Boogie Cousin says Tim Duncan needs to be,
he needs to be in everyone's top five.
He said, chat, let's take a listen to what Boogie said.
Y'all, let's listen to it.
I don't want to hear no top five without Tim Duncan in it.
I respect that, bro.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Like, that's just how I feel.
I think he's one of the most disrespected.
Fuck the basketball part.
just winners of all time.
But why do you think?
I mean, is it the Old Navy?
Is it the Baggy Fits?
Is it the Burkestock?
It wasn't sexy.
Yeah, it wasn't sexy.
You know, he wasn't, you know,
as marketable as these other guys
and he's not all, I mean,
he's almost like a yokech.
Since he's stepped foot in the L, he won.
He's done nothing to win.
I believe, I may be wrong,
but from my knowledge,
I think he's the most winningest player of all time.
So if that's not top five on top of all the accolades that come with it, I don't,
they're in the playoffs every year, right?
He never had a losing season.
Yeah, he's never had a losing season.
You know what I mean? That's incredible.
Hey, he got, hey, a, buddy got some valid thoughts.
Smooth, what you, what do you think about there, bro?
Yeah, I mean, when he put it in that perspective, you get to throwing those numbers out there.
And I agree.
I mean, he's definitely a guy that it's kind of like a step.
like Steph Curry did, he, uh, he built, he helped build that, uh, San Antonio's first
franchise and he helped, uh, Pavovich become one of those coaches that was respected
for it still to this day.
Um, he's definitely, definitely top five, one of those prototypical fours that, that was
probably the best to ever do it.
Oh, for sure.
German.
It's hard to leave him off that list.
It's very, it's hard to leave him off that list, man, because he didn't did everything
you can think of in this game.
and he don't get the love because he ain't he ain't loud he ain't boisterous but he get the job done
and ain't many people that love the hardworking guy that just gets the job done y'all.
I just have one on here Tony Island.
He don't get the love he deserved.
You know, so that's a part of what it is, but real hooppers know what Tim Duncan did
and what he means to the game and what in terms of, you know, bringing people along and teaching
them the right way to do it.
Yeah, you know what it is, man, it's because he doesn't do it with a flare.
You know, he ain't, you know, he just got.
go out there the big fundamental yeah he just get it done bro like look i'm gonna tell you i played
against a few playoff series against him so man and i think it was 2003 when i first got to
phoenix well that's like my second year in phoenix when we had stephan marbury at the one
we had pinning hardaway at the two john marrying at the three i can't remember who was like
four and five but i was backing all these dudes up but anyway oh uh there was a marri rookie year
And we played against the Spurs in the first round.
We were the A-C.
They were one-seat, bro.
And, you know, Mari was young, but Tim couldn't stop him,
but he couldn't stop Tim neither.
But he was hitting him with basic stuff.
Like, just turn around, jump hook, off the glass, boom, show it, up and under.
Bro, he was so technical and fundamentally sound.
Like, it was awesome to watch because guess what?
When he got it going and then you sit in the double,
now you got Tony Parker.
Now you got Genobley.
Now you got Bruce Boyne.
You got all these other guys and he knew how to make those guys better.
So I know it's hard to meet them out to top five fellas,
but I think it's preference, bro.
It's definitely preference.
Smooth, give me your top five power fours, man.
Give me, give me your top five power fours.
Five, power fours.
I got to go.
Definitely Tim Duncan.
One.
You putting in one?
I mean, I would, yeah.
Yeah, I am.
I am.
I am sure you got uh you got um Kevin Garnett oh yes sir for sure for sure
KG man I got to go Rashid Wallace oh man that's not that's not any any kind of uh
number I see I seen she I seen she you about 36 that's damn I said damn who got
she man man that big pot it will fry my fry me
I'm sitting there trying to wait for him to go to the hole.
Like the who I could go whoops on me.
I'm still scrambling, man.
That wasn't a good matcher.
That wasn't a good match.
All right, you got she?
What did you got?
Shep and she.
You got to go James Worthy.
They ain't old school.
You got to go old school, worthy of it?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Let me see.
And Pete, your pop.
I know Pete was good.
Pete was a shooter, though.
So he got to slide him up a little.
a little further on up.
So he was definitely the shooter, man.
Who would I say the fifth one would be?
Man.
You had to go like...
I'm going to have to go Carl Malone.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Jeremy, give me, give me your four.
Give me your five, power fours.
In no order. It's got to be Tim Duncan.
I don't know how he ain't say Charles Barkley,
because what he was doing.
He wasn't. He wasn't.
He wasn't. I'm going to take. I'm going to take Carlin.
I'm alone.
Give me Charles, man.
This is my list, brother.
This is my list.
Don't go to step on my list.
Hey, wait, whatever.
I'm going to make a trade, man.
I'm a trade.
I'm going to put on the bottom of there, man.
Get them on out of there for Mr. Barclay, Mr. Chuck himself.
I got to go.
I probably got to throw KG in there because of what he meant to his teams.
I stepped on that court.
I think you're missing dirt a little bit, too.
Ooh.
And I got to round this list off with something.
somebody, this is a wild number, but he wasn't a score, but he changed his teams.
Dennis Robman.
Oh, man.
Well, you grew up a Chicago kid, so it kind of makes sense.
I'm saying, I'm saying back then, Jeremy, when you was watching the game,
did you really understand it?
Like, how were you?
Hell no, I understand what was going on.
I just, he made a lot of noise and he colored his hair.
I didn't know what was going on.
But as I got older, was able to understand, man, that man meant everything.
to every team he played for.
Oh, my goodness.
I know, I know MJ like a god in Chicago, bro.
So growing up there, I could imagine, you know,
you being immersed in it because there's a kid out of Little Rock,
Germany, I ain't missing no games on WGN.
I'm catching every game every night.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
Booz was my favorite team.
Hey, until-
Chat going to kill me with that, too, but that's okay.
What's that?
The chat don't kill me putting Dennis Robin in there.
I got to.
Oh, no, no, listen.
I got to put the mailman in there, Carmel.
Hey, bro.
smooth. The Bulls was
my favorite team and then
when Orlando got Penny,
that was like my first NBA game I ever
went to, my best friend, BG,
his pops. His pops,
his pops took us, his pops took me,
him and my other best friend, Vought,
took us to our first NBA game.
It was in Memphis. Orlando was playing
against the Bulls in Memphis. Scottie Pippen
played for the Bulls, you know what I mean?
Penny played for Orlando.
But he's from Memphis. Oh, man.
That was like, that was my first.
NBA game bro it was it was crazy so I I get it I get it check me out LeBron compares
himself to roll it to the Rolling Stones chat let's take a listen to LeBron
y'all check us in sports there's always conversations like when he's he needs to
retire he's this he's this age he's that age but but why but why why why are we
trying to force people that's still doing what they do at a high level
why are we trying to force the narrative of it's time to retire?
Look at guys like Bruce Springsteen and, you know,
some of the greatest, you know, musicians, they're still on tour.
The stones.
I just watch the still.
They've been on tour for 50, 60 years and no one's telling them,
hey, don't come to our city and go, you know, do a tour.
So it's like, you know, if we still are dedicating ourselves to the craft,
if we are still giving to the sport, if we're not disrespecting the game
or just, you know, we're giving everything that we have to the sport,
we're still driving revenue as well why not why not still play it if you still love it so i'm just
trying to you know squeeze as much of the juice out of it as possible german tell me what you
think man you like his mentality bro i can't be mad at that he he can't play no more um i'm older
and still playing right now no one's retired has ever told me amen retirement's great they say play
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So do what you do, bro.
You're still averaging 20.
Why would you sit?
Do what you do?
I'm on this side.
I ain't going to talk about the Rolling Stones, but I'm on this side.
Smooth, what do you think, smooth?
I mean, I agree with him.
I mean, I think we had a discussion about this a couple of days ago when we was talking about how he's going to be.
missed once he decides to make that decision to retire.
And like he said, if he's continued to help drive the revenue up with the sport of
basketball in the NBA, and he's not disrespecting the game when it comes to playing his
possessions being played on both ends of the floor, I think that, you know, he does deserve
to make a decision into whenever he wants to retire because, I mean, averaging 20 plus
20 plus points.
I don't think that that deserves him
having a conversation about him being
retired or anything like that.
No, I agree with y'all, man.
I think you should play or
if you're producing at a high level like he still is
at 41, 42 years old, bro,
define the eyes.
I want to see it. defeat him. Defeat the eyes, bro.
I want to see somebody walk that fine line.
I want to see Bronn play till he 45.
Can he still play till he 45 at a high level?
So I agree with him, bro.
They were doing that with Tom Brady.
They was just trying to figure out, is he coming back?
Yeah.
It wasn't.
It wasn't, it wasn't, man.
Look, man, we're tired.
Look, man, you need to go and get on out of here.
It was never there.
He was, we always appreciated what Tom Brady brought to the,
to the game of football.
Just like we need to appreciate what LeBron is bringing to the game of basketball,
for sure.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
because like I always say bro he's done so much for the game and sometimes man when you've won so
much in life and we've watched this man grow up since he was what 17 18 years old he's been under the
microscope really before that though there was that was there was there was clocked him in high school
i say 14 15 think about that smooth like you walk you had to walk that fine line bro
and you've been under this microscope germany your whole entire career bro and not only not only did you meet
expectations you exceeded him come on bro what what are we talking about so it's kind of hard for me
to to to kind of sit and listen and hear people down talk that man because yeah man when you run
when you run his accolades down and and really damn his accolades let's i mean just who he is as a
person i've had a time i've had a chance to really you know spend time with him and playing in the
u s a so i spent like a month to have two months with him i'm like man he just a great down-the-earth dude
you know what I mean?
Right.
He's been fortunate enough, bro,
and blessed enough to have these skills
to where he can put him on display
and we all witness like we've done, man.
I want to see him keep striving for greatness.
I want to see him keep pushing the needle.
Hey, man.
I want to see the man win another title.
I ain't going to lie to y'all, bro.
As much, eh, smooth, much as I'm an Atlanta Hawks fan,
I want to see Philly.
I want to see Philly do good, too, bro.
I ain't going to lie to you.
I want to see Philly.
do good to it.
So.
Team, there's a lot of place to do good.
They're going to be, they're going to be just fine over there.
Oh, yeah.
But, but I'm saying, but I'm saying, Jeremy, how long realistically, you know,
do you think, you know, he'll be able to continue to play?
I mean, I think he's going to be 42 right in December.
I think he got two.
I think you got this one and another another, not that this one coming up.
So you're saying he'll finish in 25, he'll do 25 years.
I think, yeah, I think the two years that he signed in Philly will be,
would be his his farewell tool for the next two years i guess you can say smooth what you think
you think he's just two or you think he gonna push past that i think he win win one this year i think
he gonna retire do you really yeah i think he might chop that one of that two and the one man that
one to tell y'all i think this year probably gonna be up with man listen i think it's a lot i think
it's a lot harder than then then what people really think meaning like once you're done playing the game
bro and you still in good shape and you ain't got no injuries and all that see as we as we age
the reason why we don't really like playing the game because it hurt it hurt too damn bad you know
what I mean you your feet hurt your knees hurt your hip hurts your back go to hurting but if you're
able to keep yourself in great shape and keep that great mobility as we age bro and you can
continue to play at a high level man keep playing bro I think dude I
definitely think he's going to get 25 for sure.
I think he's going to play this year and next year
smooth regardless of what happened.
Standing around out of the
rings, that's tough.
I don't know, man. You say what?
Yeah.
If they win it
down out of that ring, that's
not. I don't blame if you do stay
but you got to run it back
but, whew.
Hey, Brum, might go to another damn team
and go play for somebody else and win, try to
win.
Hey, listen,
listen, because y'all know
they always thought you know every time somebody
bring up an argument about who the best player
ever played the game obviously
MJ to go Brian the goat
but it's you know it's debatable right
and
I just think
LeBron know if he can
get to six like
mean if he win one this just smooth
they give him five boy please
he can't you don't think he's been trying to get six
Jeremy you don't think so
100% he's trying to get six
he told everybody he chasing the goals
He ain't no way not you don't try and get the six
You can't help it bro
I mean the man award number 23 his whole damn
Career man ain't no secret you know what I mean
Hey but guess what it don't make him no bad brother
You know he's still a good you know I mean
Don't make him no bad brother
Absolutely hey check me out
Former Lakers assistant
Lion of Holland shares that LeBron James
and Anthony Davis never worked out together
According to Lionel Hollins
LeBron save
LeBron saved you have to
to get up a little early to come work out with me.
He's saying that he's saying he's saying that ain't, you know, he ain't
gonna basically if you ain't getting up at three, four in the morning, man,
you mean, you ain't gonna never get no workout together.
Which I think about him and AD not never working out.
She had worked out, didn't it?
I mean, they got, I mean, they got one.
But hold on, hold on, hold on.
What I'm saying is, John.
Imagine if AD, you know, would have stayed healthy.
You know, obviously he probably never would have got traded
because his productivity that he was given,
given the Lakers, him and Brown was a two-headed monster, bro.
You couldn't stop that.
Yeah, a healthy AD is a top 10 playing in NBA consistently.
Yeah, every year.
That health is heavy, though.
Why was he healthy, though?
Why was he healthy?
It wasn't because he was going to be healthy.
Why wasn't he healthy?
I wasn't.
No, I wasn't.
I don't think that's why.
Whatever you do at 5 in the morning,
I can do the same thing at 10.
Hey, tell me something.
I know me in Germany worked out a lot in the summer.
Smooth, did you have anybody?
Excuse me, do you have anybody that you worked out with in the summer?
I know we got in a few times in the summer.
I just, I was like, I was like,
Janus, you know what I'm saying?
I ain't really want to work out with NBA players.
man. Like, what were you doing? You know what I'm saying? I worked out with Edon Reveen.
You remember Edon Reveen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just work out with him in the summertime.
So I used to fly him to like Atlanta, L.A., you know what I'm saying, work out at UCLA.
And I did who, with NBA players and we did those pickup games and stuff like that.
But as far as like individual working out, I didn't want to, I didn't want to work out with,
work out with nobody because it's like, why would I want to show them when I'm working out?
You know what I'm saying?
what I'm working out on.
Yeah, and you know what, Jeremy, you know,
a lot of cats, bro, like, and I was one of them,
you know, obviously dudes that I was working out with,
I kind of been through the fires with them,
like it was high school, college, you know,
then we, you know, we, we, we was, I was in the pros
or we was in the pros, but a lot of cats don't like working out
with people, man, giving away their secrets and their gyms.
You know what I'm saying?
They love it, though.
They love it, because they all got the same training.
They all doing the same little move.
And that because it's a different breed now, smooth.
You know what I mean?
They all spamming the same little move.
Like, Jeremy, I'm going to keep it real.
Like, think about when we were really coming up.
I'm saying before we got to the pros, bro, we ain't had no trainers, bro.
Like, everybody got a training now.
Think about it.
Jeremy, what you was doing?
How was you getting better?
Pick up and watching.
Trying to see.
And watching.
And it gets older.
Playing against all the players.
Look, you're playing with your brother friends and stuff like that.
I know, everybody know about hoops in Chicago.
I was 16 at hoops.
Oh, yeah, facts.
Oh, yeah.
Come up to hoops.
My brother got me a car, drive up the hoops.
Where's that?
I don't know how to get that.
You know, GPS at this time.
Right.
They tell you the street name.
You know what I said?
Two lights and turn left and then after them, after the thing, you had to remember all that stuff.
I get in the gym and it's all pros.
Michael Jordan and all these pros and out of nowhere.
Fargo.
Huh?
Hold on, hold on.
So when you was a kid, you said you went to the gym and MJ was in there?
16.
Michael Jordan used.
first time I seen Mike, Michael had his hoodie tucked.
I said, that's the coolest nigga in the world.
Yeah, he had a crew neck tucked in.
I said, yeah, I got to tuck my crick.
I got to tuck in.
Hey, hey.
You know, I got to do it.
Hey, we always talk about the aura.
You know, when you see him, bro, it's kind of like,
I always say it seemed like he levitate.
Hey, it's a little scary, Joe.
First time, it's a little scary.
But look, check this out, smooth.
you know, I was a brand joint athlete for man, like, for like a decade.
So, you know, early in those years, you know, we should take trips, you know, do vacations,
meetups, you know what I mean?
It should be all that, bro.
It was so many commercials out back then.
And I was always in all.
You know what I mean?
But I always kept it together.
You know what I mean?
Like, I always kept my account of took.
You know what I mean?
I ain't really fan boy like that.
But I'm like, damn.
You know what I'm saying?
Sitting back and having conversations with him, bro.
And those are times that, you know, I never forget, bro, you know,
because I grew up watching this man, idolizing this man,
and then getting a chance to be a brand joint athlete, bro.
That was super, super dope.
So, Jim, I couldn't imagine being from Chicago and Chicago at 16.
Joe, imagine going to the man, Howler playing pickup.
Oh, you was going over there hooping?
Listen, his hit my AAU coaches, Antoine Walker's my AU coach.
You know, they were tight.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, thanks.
We, they call me, yo, we're going here to play.
I got a car.
I drive all the way out there.
I get to the gate, the big ass 23 on the gate.
I'm excited.
I'm locked in already.
But they're like, yo, he's not going to play, but we plan at his house.
Like, get in, park, getting the gym.
I'm at the far end of the gym.
And I turn around and that black walk in.
And I say, oh, shit.
And he can get out there and play.
He played.
I get it.
I kid you not.
I get a backdoor lob.
He's guarding me on the way.
I get a back door lob.
I miss it.
Kids are not.
He made fun of me.
He literally told me.
You wouldn't miss that if you had on Jordan.
Oh, yeah.
That's him.
That's him.
That's him.
You can't come around him with nothing else on, man.
Nothing else is going to talk about you.
Boy, he's going to talk about you.
He's going to talk about you, bro.
But I'm telling y'all, man, he was a pleasure to be around,
super motivating, you know, teaching us the business of basketball.
And man, we, hey, you know, we had bill on, uh, bill was on yesterday, bro.
We used to do these meetups move.
And like, they would show us stuff that's about to come out and they have all these
different shoes, German, you know, all these different Jordans.
And like, they'll let you take a pair of two with you.
You know what I mean?
Man, baby taking 20 pairs shoes.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
A bill was OD with it.
But rightfully so, because, you know, him and Ray Allen pretty much kind of started to jump
brand.
Yeah.
I'll be able to spoil with it boy.
Hey,
give me,
give me one of y'all hardest workouts in the summer, man,
preparing for the,
when you was in the NBA.
Give me one of your hardest workouts.
Man,
I don't know if it was the hardest I gave you one of my most discouraging workouts.
And it was,
it was a weak moment for me because, you know,
my brother,
my brother's a shooter.
He shoots the ball.
So we got to go around,
make eight out of 10,
then nine out of 10 coming back.
He missed the first time.
I went.
I didn't make it.
at the first spot, that boy didn't miss again.
And I was mad the entire workout.
I was mad.
I'm not like, yo, I'm not doing this.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, hey, if that boy can't do nothing now, boy,
he can shoot the leather off that thing.
You hear me?
What thing you do?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You hear me?
Yeah.
Smooth, smooth.
You got, you got,
what's one of your toughest workouts, bro?
Them sand dudes.
Yeah, I used to go to the Rainy Canyon.
So, like, I- Really?
L.A.?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
When I used to live,
by there in LA, I do the Runyon Canyon.
I do it twice around.
But before that, I get up, I go to this guy named Gunner.
You ever met Gunner?
Uh-uh, ain't a little bit.
Gunner used to work out all the, you know, I met him through,
who was it, through Danny Ferry?
Yeah, he went to Duke.
So when I went out there to meet Danny Ferry,
he introduced me to Gunner.
Gunner worked out a lot of players,
like Tom Brady, all kind of other players, entertainers.
So I get up in the morning, I work out with him, then I go to the, to the Runyon Canyon for about, like, I do it twice.
And I might go hoop.
Then if I don't hoop, I'll do another workout.
Then I go, I'll go work out at like 8 o'clock.
So I had like three workouts through, like, every day during the summertime.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man, man.
You know, you want to hang out at that.
You know, you want to hang out at nighttime, too.
So you know what's that?
Oh, yeah.
Get up and do it all over again.
Yeah, all right.
Hey, all right.
Hey, you're burning both ends of the candle, potty.
Hey, come on, man.
Yeah, I already know, bro.
Oh, man.
Because look, look, look.
Trying to max it out.
You know, we ain't got too much time.
We just try to, man, max it out.
That's it, bro.
I remember Germany used to be with me.
We used to be down there in Miami and Legacy Fit
with my boy Manning out there.
Training like a mud, uh, uh, uh, uh, smooth.
That gym with it, it's kind of small, got that little turf on it.
Oh, that boy, he didn't about the whole, he didn't about the whole damn block now,
smooth.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That gym used to be lit, boy.
I threw up in that gym.
I ain't okay.
Hey, hey, and that's the plan.
Yeah, yeah, he was trying to do it to you.
He won them trainers.
Yeah, you walk in there.
Are you a professional athlete?
You're supposed to be like some.
Are you come train with me?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Boy, you're gonna be calling Earl in like 15 minutes.
I worked out with Rhondo when I went down there with Rondo.
I'm like, oh, home's trippy.
Oh, yeah, he ain't, he ain't playing.
He ain't playing.
He was something different.
Y'all give me a second.
Give me a second.
Give me a second.
Hey, they and we in that gym right after that.
Basketball later that day and we're working out again after that.
Yeah.
I'm young at the time.
All I'm going to be around is and learn as much as I can.
It was a good time for sure.
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