Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Trevor Lawrence & Jaguars KNOCK OFF the Chiefs + Havoc from MOBB DEEP talks NEW ALBUM + Jerry Jones FLIPS OFF Jets Fans

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Jaguars beating the Kansas City Chiefs, Havoc from Mobb Deep joins the show to talk about his new album coming up, and Jerry Jones flips off Jets fans after Cowboys win on Sunday and much more! 3:12 - Jaguars SHOCK Chiefs24:50 - Havoc of Mobb Deep joins the show38:19 - Jonathan Gannon apologizes to Emari Demercado, Cardinals (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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84, with 84 being spelled out. that link is pinned into the chat nightcap has been nominated for two signal awards under the genre best sports podcast under the video best video podcast co-host team we're only ahead by a percentage point in both categories we need to run away with these things uh if i'm not mistaken i think voting ends midnight on thursday club shasha has also been nominated for two awards under the genre athletes shaping culture and under video best video podcast we have two special guests joining us tonight from M-O-B-B, Mobb Deep, have it. And Olympic gold medalist in Paris, Maasai Russell joins us a little later. But first, boy, we had a bond burn over game tonight. The Jaguar, the Jaguar, the Jaguar, the Jaguar, the Jags showed their merit, their grit, being down 14 points, score 21 unanswered. The Chiefs come back, tied up. But guess what?

And they take the lead, 28, 24, but the Jags would not be denied. They go down the field, big time catches, get a pass interference in the end zone. They score and they take a ball game, a close ball game, a very entertaining, a very great ball game, 31 to 28. Ocho, let's go with the Jags first. Trevor Lawrence, 18 to 25, 221, one touchdown, but it was his legs tonight. It seems like to me, Liam Cohen said, look, when they come with pressure and they will bring pressure, a lot on third down, don't even look.

even worried by trying to complete a pass down the field. Right. Get up out of there. And that's what he did tonight. I thought they played well. And when the defense needed to make a play, they made a play. Take off. Yeah. Hey, the Jags look really good.

Obviously, you know Spags love to bring pressure to cause confusion to get the quarterback the rushes process, obviously resulting in sacks. But listen, Trevor Lawrence said, not today, not on my watch. He killed him with it. He killed him with his legs. known for his arm and his other intangibles,

but tonight he used his legs to win. Travis Hunter, they need to get him involved in the offense much more. You saw him make a huge play that changed the trajectory of that offensive series, which led to them scoring. Brian Thomas Jr. played well. Travis Aetian, I know what he did running the ball, but picking up some of the blisters that he did to be able to allow him to make some of the throws that he made.

A, plays like that will keep a running back on the field all three downs. He played phenomenal football as well. Defensively, the Jag played well as well. So, I mean, it was a really good game. I thought the turnovers would have heard him because I tweeted it during the game every time they turn the ball over, the goddamn Chiefs capitalized on it,

especially on the goal line where Trevor Lawrence tried to reach over. Nick Bolton punched it out. He punched it out right away. Listen, defensively, that goddamn interception, that 99 interception by Lloyd? up the game. That was nice. Yeah. Well, you have to understand, Ocho,

he's following Mahomes' eyes. Mahomes stared. He stared at him down. You know, they tried to run a little arrow route, push up, but they ran double arrow because here comes juju first, and then I think Travis was coming in behind him. So they tried to run double arrow. But the problem is, is that when you look, the linebacker who's inside, he's going to naturally drift that way.

And because, I mean, he hit it right in his breadbasket. He breaks a tackle. He sidesteps my homes, and now he's off to the races. The guy did a great job of just getting enough of Thornton to throw him off his rhythm because Thornton was coming. Yeah, he would have called. Oh, yeah, for sure, he would have called him. But I think you have to give the Jags a lot of credit.

Being down at home, 14 points to that team, and they were playing extremely well. But when they needed to make plays, they made plays at the end. Trevor Lawrence played well. You mentioned ATN, it was his blitz pickup. But yeah, he had 12 carries, 49 yards. He was averaging, what was that? Basically four yards of carry.

But those Bolton went and some of those other guys was coming on the Blitz. Chanel Tranquil, he stoned him. I mean, he stoned them. The offensive line did a very good job of protecting. Look, they had a half a sack. Well, they had, what, two sacks, three sacks? It looked like you got sacked three times.

You got sack three times. But I thought they did a great job considering. the amount of pressure that Spaggs likes to bring, and you know when he feels threatened, he's going to bring pressure. They knew that too. But you look at those throws at the end. Man, he dropped that one in the bucket to Brian Thomas Jr. Right on the sideline.

And then he found the, he found, what's his name? Ocho, what was it, Washington? Yeah, I think it was Washington that ended up catching the out ball. But Trevor Lawrence played as well. But this is the Trevor Lawrence that they said, okay, when you took him number one overall, this is what they expect him to look like. And he has moments like this. But then he'll come back and he'll stink up to join.

You're like, well, bro, I've seen what you can do. I know what you can do because I've seen it firsthand. What happened? Yeah, the problem is, what we saw tonight from Trevor Lawrence, what we saw tonight collectively for the Jaguars, this is not the Jaguars of old. This is a new team. What we saw tonight is a different type of Jaguars offense. I don't think they've beaten the Chiefs.

I'm not sure it's been a very, very long time since 2009. You know, so normally a team like this, the old Jaguar team, they would have folded. They would have folded like Lawrence here, but they continue to fight despite being down. And they fought their way back. I'm really impressed, really impressed. If we can get this type of quarterback play from Trevor Lawrence consistently, consistently, not just one night, consistently, but they're going to be fine. They're going to be in the hunt. They're going to be in contention every single year if he can continue to play like this.

but minimize the goddamn turnovers. He had two to tonight, and they, you know, and they were able to survive them. I mean, right there at the goal line, he fumbled that one and he threw a pick when they had a lead. So he has to be very, very careful with that. The Jags' past four games have been decided by a total of 18 points. There are three and one in those games, winning three straight.

The Jags are now four and one with two home games coming up, the Seahawks and the Rams. Both of those, look, both of those teams have quarterbacks that can throw the football. Both of those teams have receivers that can go get the ball. You look at the Rams, you talk about Pugin Nakul, you talk about Devante Adams, they can go get it. We know Seattle.

You see Sam Darnel with JSCN. JSCN. Man, they got guys that can go get the football. So would I be surprised if we see another couple, both of those games end up something like this, Ocho? No, no, I would not. No, I absolutely would not. But the Jags were very, very impressive tonight.

And do, do, ball, y'all should stand up because y'all got to make it of a very good team. Liam Cohen has done an unbelievable job, guiding Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence has always had the ability. From the moment he stepped foot on the field at Clemson, they say this guy in three years, from that point, when he comes out, he's going to be the number one pick in the draft.

He led Clemson to a national championship as a true freshman. Not very many true freshmen can do that. I think the last time it happened probably was Jamail Holloway. And you had to go way back, way back, Oklahoma, back 85 probably. So for him to do that and then who did they beat they beat Alabama and we know what Alabama represented and so and for him to do that He would been he was very very impressive but for whatever the reason the last couple of years. I don't know if it was injury now. I think the first the first year, you know Urban Meyer was his coached that I don't think that was the best situation he wasn't set up for success in that situation but now Liam Cohen and we saw what Cohen is done with Baker

Two years, I mean, two years with Baker, and you see what Baker has become. Now, Baker is still on that. He's still rising, even though Liam left. But we saw what that, what he become under Liam Cohen. So this offense is very quarterback friendly. The got receivers, they got guys that can go get the ball. I agree with you right now until Travis refined his skill. Look, okay, they don't run him really on nothing of my spots.

They're running more spots and shell across. Hey, five yards, turn around, we throw you the ball, make a guy miss take off, running the shallow cross. And when they throw the ball down the field, they're allowing him to use his athletic ability. Remember to play, what, with it last week, a couple of weeks ago against San Francisco. They threw the dagger. He elevates, catches it.

We saw him tonight, in between two. So until he refines his route running ability, this is what you're going to have to do. Try to find ways to create, get him in space, and let him use his athleticism until he understands how to consistently run the route tree. Because these guys that play DB, they're really good. I'm Dan, he's Ty.

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Very good, very good, but I think Travis Hunter is one of those. He has such raw talent. He's so good, especially with his ball skills, whether it's on the defensive side of the ball or whether it's on the offensive side of the ball. If you can just get the ball in the vicinity, if you can just get in the area so he can make a play on it, he can coming down with that ball nine times out of ten. And on the Chiefs, I thought Patrick Mahon, look, he played well tonight, 29 of 41, 318, touchdown, the very costly interception that led to a 90-day.

The one thing that you don't want to have happened, you don't want to give up points on your possession. So in other words, you don't want to have a scooping score. You don't want to have a pick six because now you, you know what I'm saying? That's not what you're built to do. Your defense is not on the field. We understand our defensively, they're going to score. Look, these teams are really good.

So for you to shut a team out, it's probably not going to happen. But the last thing we want to do is give up points while our offense is on the field. because our defense didn't get a chance, didn't get a chance to stop him. Patrick Mahomes led him with Russian. He was six of 60. Kareem Hunt had seven for 49. I was up in Czecho. He had seven for 36, 22 for 158, three touchdowns.

And you see the way they came out. They threw to set up the run. If you look at the first, the first series, the first couple of series, what they're doing? Getting the ball out of his hands quick. Guys were making plays. Quick game, quick game. But remember, I said this. Yeah.

when you don't have a rapport with your quarterback. Right. If Hollywood Brown had a rapport with his quarterback, they win this game. Patrick Mahomes, get him on the shoulder with the ball. He still don't know what that is. The safety is flat-footed. He catches this ball, Ocho. He's coming at the back side.

All of you talk about at the end of the game? Oh, yeah. But you see, there are some guys you were imaginative. You had up and like, damn, ain't nobody here. Let me look for this ball. He is running the route that they call oblivious. Yeah, that is. Right.

To the situation. You got to understand the situation. Travis Kelsey. You remember Travis Kelsey against Buffalo? He got wide. Patrick Mahomes put the ball only. They got in field goal range. Range.

Hollywood. All you got to do, you see everybody's off. Ocho, the backside safety is flat-footed. He catches this ball. That's Hollywood Brown. He's coming out. Not the backside. That's a touchdown.

You're coming out. Yeah, he could go now. Let's go. He can go. If anything, because the entire defense was back, he can come out the backside. If he doesn't even make it out the backside, you're still in field go range. You get down, call the timeout. You go.

If you go back and look at this, if you tell me you don't think Hollywood Brown is also, because the safety, the backside safety, he's flat footed. That means Hollywood Brown is going to catch this ball. with a running start yeah he gone ain't no ain't no way no safety that's flat foot it's going to turn and beat Hollywood Brown to a point mm-hmm but you right we talked about this to other remember that I think was the first game he tried to do that with a receiver but he doesn't have the report now that's Tyreek Hill also we have a whole different conversation because they have a report they have

an understanding with each other that's but that Mahomes is going to have to get with these guys and say look guys i understand what's called but if that guy's off you look for the ball and obviously it's all situations you understand obviously whatever route is called normally if we're if we're in a regular game then yes the route that's called you run you run to your depth but it's it's just understanding the situation if they're backed up turn your head around right away get what you can with the ball get what you can understanding there's only a little bit of time on the clock you don't even have time to get into your food no I don't I don't I don't know like see the thing is is that I'm not so sure I don't even call fair catch on that Ocho on the kickoff

because guess what happened right you're not going to run it back and there's a greater chance of you getting a holding call or a block in the back call that you're running it back so now instead of starting at the 25 guess where you're going to start at inside your 20 right and guess what's guess what else you did you ran time off the clock because see the ball don't start the clock don't start until you touch the ball Now you run you take six seconds off the clock now with six seven seconds off the clock now you get a block in the back You took eight seconds off the clock and you're 10 15 yards back further than what you would have been But those are things that you learn see those are things that we talk I don't I look I can't speak to everybody else

But this is what we talked about in situations like this look if the ball kicked in the end zone Leave it in the end zone we don't run and running in time punt return, fair catch. We don't want any time to run off the clock. We don't want to get an illegal block. Look, they had three timeouts, Ocho. Free timeouts in 30 seconds. That's an eternity.

Because the entire field is in play. I can throw the ball over the middle. It's in play. Call the time out. Now, I just took seven seconds off the clock. I got 23. Guess what? Middle field is still in play.

I take another seven seconds off the clock. Guess what? I still got a timeout. Now, the field, the entirety of the field is still in play. That's things that you've got to talk about. Andy's got to do a better job, special teams coach, you've got to do a better job of helping guys understand. Remind them.

Remind them. Hey, don't, fair catch this. X, Y, Z. Go ahead. Yeah, it's all about the coaches letting the players know certain situations. Defensively, offensively, special teams, if these certain situations come up, even if they might not come up, just so they're aware and obviously coaches have to know in game what's possible there's a chance

that this might happen there's a chance that this might happen so be aware and understanding this is what you want to do in this situation same with hollybert brown on that play towards the end of the game understanding hell they damn they went in pre-in defense get your head around fast if you can go out the back though go out the back though if you can't get as much as you can get down call time out real fast so we have our opportunity and a chance to run something else But you got to give the Jacks credit. They didn't hang their heads. They fell behind 14-0-0.

They get a touchdown late in the second quarter, making a 14-7 ball game, and then they score 14 more points. So they scored 21 unanswered points. And then we saw what happened at the end of the game. But give those guys credit because I thought Jacksonville played really well. They showed me something. They showed me something.

Getting down to this team with this defense, and that guy playing quarterback, they showed me something. I thought the receivers played well today. Thornton stepped up. Thornton has been playing extremely well. Xavier Worth. Again.

Again. Thornton again with another big play. I wish he could have kept his balance too on that deep ball and scored and scored that. But yeah, they played really well. Both sides of the ball. This is, I don't know who the hell is scheduling these goddamn games, but every time we got a Sunday night or Monday night or a Thursday night game,

they have been phenomenal. Phenomenal game. If you blink, you might miss something. That's how good the games have been, you know, so far through we're right. But the thing I don't understand is next week, we got a double header. We don't need two games on Monday night. Right. And I mean, how much money do y'all want to?

But they're on the same network. Yeah. That doesn't. Hold on, hold on. Who we got? Who we got? We got the Bears and the commanders and Buffalo playing somebody. The Falcons.

Oh, show, we don't need two games on a Monday night. And I can tell you what game everybody is going to be tuned into, unless you're a Buffalo fan, unless you're a Falcons fan. Everybody can be watching the Bears and Commanders. Of course. Everybody can be watching the Bears and Commanders. So I'm not sure why the NFL is doing that. Obviously, you understand what the bottom line is at the end of the day

on why there's a double header on a Monday. But listen, they're trying to double dip. They're trying to double dip. If you understand the business, they're just trying to double dip. That'd be like putting friends and everybody love Raymond on the same, on system networks. Why the hell you do that? Come on, bro.

Come on, NFL. It's unnecessary. I get Sunday. I get Sunday all these games. But on a single night on your one game, we need one. But you guess what? Pretty soon, they're going to have two games on Thursday. Watch.

Yeah. Watch. Yeah. Because you have to understand too long. You got to look at it from a business standpoint. You got to look at it from their standpoint. You know what their bottom line is. We try to maximize as much as we can in the 17 games.

game season plus the playoffs plus Super Bowl so how can we double the profit by having two games they're going to do it they're going to add another playoff game in the next three to five years they'll have another playoff game so instead of seven they'll be eight and you know that 18 game coming and what they're trying to do also is trying to have everybody play one game overseas now good luck getting the cowboys to give up a home game now everybody else going to be more than willing to give up a home game yeah convince jerry to give up one of his home games it ain't happened it ain't happening because if you give up a home game

they're taking away the money I mean I get Jacksonville I get Cleveland I get some of these teams but right let everybody let everybody you know we try to grow I don't know if football

American football will ever be what soccer is or ever be what basketball is because nobody grows up wanting to be like Randy Moss or wanting to be like Jerry Rice or Patrick my homes if you in if you're in europe if you're that but listen hey i understand what you're saying even we will never i don't think any sport will ever touch that of soccer that of the beautiful no obviously basketball basketball is another sport that many of them choose to to play

or be like certain individuals but the game of the game of football as great as it is continuing to grow globally on the other side of the world is a good thing for us it's a good because obviously not only do we get to to expand from an economic standpoint it's good for for other players their brand and being able to do things not just here in the states but being to do things outside of the states as well so in in a sense long term it's a great thing it's a great thing but we would they would never ever be able to be what be what soccer is that's because Europeans they play it they can play soccer I can become pro what's the likelihood africa in the content of africa you have

Nigeria you have teams they they can play foot of a football yeah how many guys from Europe go like you know what yeah that football thing I'm going to be back to my home don't be Tom Brady hey hey uncle it'd be very difficult you you have to understand too everybody in Europe everybody plays soft yes the chances of you playing at the highest level the EPL, CDI, La Liga, I mean, French League, like, only so many, it's only so many spots. And everybody does it. So like, just think about this.

I know you don't watch soccer much, but you hear the conversations of the comparison between Cristiano and Messi. I don't think people understand how brilliant and how good these dudes are. Because everybody played this sport and the comparison of who the best is of a certain error or a certain generation, like that's the cream of the crop. And then there's everybody else. And we're going to be the place you come to for the World Cup. Oh, yeah.

But you got to think about it, in soccer, Messi left home. You think about Ronaldo, left home, hobbling, probably left home. Lewandowski probably left home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a difference. But, man, this game tonight, this game tonight, we've been getting some very, very good games thus far. I know it's early, Ocho. It's like week eight, week nine,

they'd be like, damn, y'all couldn't, y'all couldn't flex up out of this one? I don't think they can flex. I think they can only, I think Sunday night is the game, but I think they're starting allowing to flex out earlier because, you know,

ain't nobody trying to look. I understand that they might be this or might be that, but ain't nobody trying in week 10 trying to see a two-win team on no Sunday night, or no Monday night or no Thursday. Well, Thursday, you stuck. Because everybody

has to, everybody has to play, you know, at least one Thursday night game. Right. Right. Huh? Damn, man. Out of Monday night? Sunday night. Okay, yeah. Oh, they play. Oh, yeah. And that's the thing. They were like, hey, Fox and CBS

be like, man, we got a, oh, boy, we got a bar and burner. NBC, nah, let me get that one. Hey, hey, speaking Speaking of Bar and Bruns, ask, ask who is the London game this Sunday? The Broncos.

Who they playing? Yeah. Yeah, I'd be at that game. I'd be at the game. Matter of fact, what I'm going to do is I'm going to go down on the field. Ain't nothing going to change. I'm Dan.

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The Jets? You hope it. The Jets? All right. We're going to get back to that. We got a very special guest joining us, one half of the M-O-B-D crew. Here he is with his title album, Infinite.

My Havit. What's up, bro? What's up? What's good, Shannon? Yeah, bad. So, Infinite. Tell us about the album. What can we expect from this?

The Infinite album is the album. that we're putting out the first time since the passing a prodigy since 20, you know. Yeah, he passed away in 2017. So this is the first project that Monty was putting out since his passing. And me and Alchemist got together, put some music together, got some prodigy verses, some unheard prodigy verses. Wow. Put it, put it, you know, put it, put it together.

Hey, that's dope. Hey, one of the things I want to talk to you about, obviously, Maude deep, I've been, been Hughes fans for a very long time. When you think about the music industry and how the sound of music changes every 10 years, have you thought about when it comes and making music and coming out in this era with the sound being different, do you change anything or do you stay your authentic self based on what your true fans want to hear? Nah, you got to stay your authentic self because you can't alienate your core base.

You know what I'm saying? You can't alienate your foundation, man. You know what I mean? Without your foundation, you got nothing. You know what I'm saying? that it's that quick money if you try to, you know, try to be current and try to be, you know what I'm saying?

Try to be cool. That's just the quick money, but then you alienate your fan base. And Marble Deep was never one to alienate their fan base. We just, we stick with our supporters, you feel me? Yes. But you know, Havik, it's a very fine line

because when you do something, they're like, man, this is the same-o, same-o, same-o, same-o, you try to give them something new, man, I want to hear the old stuff. So how do you, how do you balance, walk this tightrope, this high wire that says, okay, I'm going to stay true to who we are, but I'm going to add a little flavor so you let you know that we got,

that we can go other places can still be true to who we are. That's true. It really is a fine line. And it's a fine line in anything that you do, whether it's music, you know what I'm saying, sports, this, that, and the third. You know what I mean? Because you got to kind of do change with the times, you understand what I'm saying? You know, you got to stay up to speed.

you got to stay up with technology you know what I mean but you still got to keep your core values and principles intact right when you create in what you create and so it is it's a tough balancing act and not a lot of artists could could tow that line it's really it makes a breaks artists to be at the end of the day yeah how did you how did you in a prodigy meet uh we met in high school we met in high school yeah back in 1989 you know what I mean the high school LeBard Design back in New York. Okay. And, yeah, we hit it off, man.

We was like instant friends. How did you, I want to know how you came up with the name Mar Beat. All right. So, you know, you know, did he wanted to sign us back in the days? You know what I mean? He wanted to sign us. And he was like, yo, man, our name was poetical prophets back of the days. And, you know, and did he was like, y'all want to sign, y'all, man.

But y'all got to change your. name so we went back to the drawing boy and we described we came up with a name that described how we rolled you know what I mean when we went out and yeah y'all was deep we was deep and it was a mob of us you know what I mean and um the name the name stuck the name stuck from the Queens bridge I mean hey nobs man y'all got some heavy I see I see you in QV I saw you I was like yo I was out there with jungle Me and Steve, I was out there. I was like, okay.

And everybody came out like, man, I got here in the bridge. I'm out here in the bridge. I said, okay, yeah, honking the bridge. Yeah, you kept in the buck with that one. You kept in the stack. I was like, you was right there in the thick of it all, man. Word.

Yeah. Ah, most of the time, us as fans, music fans, we only get to see the finished product. I don't think fans really understand the work that goes in when it comes to make an album. album, you know, the countless hours, the writing, the brain fees you get when it come to the finished product that you do have now in the infinite, how long did it take for you to, for one, come up with the vision and what you want to do and actually completing

the album? How long did that normally take? I mean, you know, me, they have to pull me away from a project that make me stop because I'll work forever, you know what I'm saying? I'm like a perfectionist. They have to stop And they'd be like, chill have, chill have is done. Right. But with this project, you know, with prodigy in mind, it's like I knew that we had a job to do and we had to get it done. You know what I mean? We had unfinished business.

So this project, I would say, it took us about a good little year to get everything right and, you know, do all the songs, pick the best songs and just, you know, and come with a complete project. So it took about it. It took about a year. you know infamous is regarded as one of the best all-time albums what do you think is some of the things that make an album a classic and make it be able to stand the test of time you know what makes an album a classic is to me in my mind is not even knowing that it's a classic you know what i mean you you don't you don't even realize it's a classic it's just something that it stands the test of time you understand what i'm saying it could be good it's good in the first day

decade it was it was it came out the second the next decade is still popping and then the third decade we played it like it's brand new we all know albums like that like the chronic you know what I'm saying some NWA projects you know a Wu-Tang project you know what I'm saying classic albums that we still play today and our kids is bumping to it and they wasn't even born at the time you feel me yeah that's a classic for you yeah Hey, when, it's based on some of the classics that you just named, who would be outside of yourself, your group in general, outside of yourself, what would you say is the most classic hip-hop album that was, it was classic in the 80s or whether it was the 90s, whether it's the 2000s, that you could put it on in any error, any generation, and it resonates with everybody. Man, I had to say off the wall. You know what I'm saying? You know, off the wall. Michael Jackson, off the wall? Yeah, yeah. I had to say off the wall. Okay. Okay. That's a

But hey, have, for real talk, if you just listen, not commercial, because we know what thriller was, but I believe off the wall is Michael Jackson's best work. Exactly before it got crazy. You know what I'm saying? It didn't have the commercial success. It didn't have the commercial sense is a bad. It didn't have the commercial sense is maybe invincible. Right. But boy, y'all better go back and listen to out of the wall.

Because that, that was his foundation, right? That was his foundation. And then, you know, came with thriller. We was like, all right, that's dope, but that's all the ball. Hey, have been at you from Queen Bridge, I know you got to be a huge fan of battle. All day long, all day long. Okay, okay, okay, most definitely, most definitely. I've been a huge fan of battle rap, my man, for now, maybe about eight, nine years.

So I'm talking about, I didn't went back and did my homework, when Tay and clips and D&L I have to about way back when they first started. And I've caught up, I've caught up the now to where I'm the hugest, hugest, battle, battle rap fan. Who would you, who would be your favorite battle rapper if you had to take one? Oh, man, there's so many, but, you know, Polo to Dawn is one of them that I like. You know what I mean? I really, I really liked him.

And when you're dealing with that battle rap, if you're not acclimated to it or you, you want to learn about it, you could go down a rabbit hole for real. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know what I said? For real. Yeah. You know, look, in the 90s it started, look, it started back in the 80s with the

beefing and then it came to the 90s. When you heard hit him up and you heard Tupac mention y'all, what did you think? You're like, man, we got to get this dude, man. We got to come out with something. We got to send some shots back, man. Damn. Hey, listen, listen, hip hop is a contact sport. So we wanted all the smoke.

We wanted all the smoke, you heard. We just like, yeah, yeah, come on. Give us some more. Right. And look, look, when he did that, you know, I looked at Tupac, he was like, mad famous. He had the movie, Juice. You understand what I'm saying?

So, and, you know, Tupac was pretty popular. So we just coming up in the game trying to make a name for ourselves. So he helped us make a name for ourselves. So, you know, I wasn't mad at him. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't mad at all. I ain't going to lie to you have. I didn't know.

I was like, well, damn, he mentioned. I said, well, let me go see who we're talking about. Exactly. That's my point, exactly. You know what I mean? And I think if he was alive today, we probably would have been mad cool by now, you know what I mean? So it's all good.

Give me some, what do you think at the top? You look, you're a writer-producer, you're emcee. Give me your top five tracks you think you've produced. Drum roll. My top five tracks that I produced definitely got to say shook ones. That's, you know, without that song, where would I be? Quiet Storm, you know what I'm saying? Remix featuring Little Kim, crazy.

Even, you know, one of her best songs that I did, even for her. Why that I produced for Jada Kiss? You know what I'm saying? That's number... Yeah, you know. Word, word, word, word. Why about Jada Kiss?

I would have to say... Let me see. Oh, a joint that I did for Nyes called... the setup that's four and one called the promise that I did for Foxy Brown damn you've been working with Foxyette with Foxyette

yeah she's chilling she's chilling she she gonna come back out soon you know we'd be messaging and stuff like that you know you know what I mean but that's my girl have did you all did you always want to be in this space did you always want to be an MC did you always want to write

did you always want to produce did you always want to rap or would there something else that you wanted to do, but you're like, you know what, at that point in time, you're like, hip hop was calling you. I mean, I wanted to be an architect. So, you know, I went to the school of art and design high school, you know what I mean? I wanted to be an architect.

I wanted to build things, buildings. But then music just kind of like took over my life when I got into high school. You know what I mean? And I come from a place, Queensbridge, where we got Molly Mall, you know, St. Nas, MC Shan, Roxanne, Roxanne Chante. So it was like this tradition out there in hip hop. know what I mean? Roxanne,

Roxanne. Yeah. So, you know, I got that bug early, the music bug early, and, you know, luckily I was successful at it because, you know,

I definitely wanted to be an architect first before music, you know. Man, but you know, the Queen Bridge, y'all been bailing molly mall and buggy down with a, with a KRS1.

Y'all been, y'all been bailing for a minute. It all started. It all started with y'all. I mean, it really did. And when you front row to a battle like that, it puts the fire in your belly, you feel me? It put that fire in there where you just like, I could do this.

You know what I'm saying? Like, who does man think he is coming through trying to dis my hood? You feel me? But I love, I love Karas, what, you know what I mean? And that's what I'm trying to tell you, hip hop a contact sport. Yeah. Yeah. I think your dude in football, we out here going crazy in hip hop.

Hey, the funny thing when you think about hip hop, too, the way you describe it, being a contact sport, the better your penmanship, the harder you hit. That's right. That's all that come down to. The better the pin, man, I don't know, man. I'm a huge, huge, huge fan of hip-hop, but I can't rap. I can't rap.

I can't rap. I can never, I can talk shit, but I can't rap. And it's always been a joy of mind. to see people like yourself KRS1 and some of the other artists that I grew up, grew up watching still doing that thing today and I just want to say, brother, I salute you.

I salute you. I got to meet you. Matter of fact, you in New York right now? Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Bro, I come to New York tomorrow morning. Pull up, pull up. I got to pull up. Pull up, man. It'll be an honor, you know what I mean? And I think y'all let me on, for real.

We appreciate you coming on. one half of Mob Deep Habit album title Infinite with tracks from the late prodigy bro thank you for joining us we appreciate it continue success we'll see you down the road thank you man

peace peace out peace and love Ocho Arizona Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon said he apologized to the team for the sidelong confrontation with Amari Di Macario Bacardo excuse me

during which Gannon appeared to strike the third year running back Gannon said I woke up this morning and I didn't feel great about it, honestly. So in the team meeting, I addressed it. I apologize to Amari. I apologize to the team and I just told them I kind of let the moment of what happened get the better of me. Obviously, I try to be emotionally stable and calm because my job is to solve problems during the game and kind of lead the charge on that.

So it's really not who I am and I want to be. it's not who I want to be. It's really not about that's not who I really am. When people's emotions are high, logic is low like you always say. You're a coach understanding that

you're probably going to lose a game based on a bonehead play that a player does. You're not thinking about, okay, I know he did that, but let me not react. No. Let me not react. Unk, players get coaches fired.

Yes. For situations like, like you just saw. You're right. I think he is in his well right to be able to react how he sees fit. Now, I know public opinion, you can't do that in this day and age, in this era. It's okay. Sometimes you should be able to chastise a player,

regardless of whether he makes millions of dollars or not. There are certain things you should not do in a game. It's a game of inches. It's a game of inches. Every play matters. That play matters because of that play. In that mistake, you lost the game. You're going to put the game out of reach.

It costs you a game. You might go up 28 to 6. Hey, but listen, I understand him. He has to apologize. Obviously, the era I grew up in, that's the way, that's the way they handled us. Oh, for sure. That's the way they handled us.

It's not, it's frowned upon today in today's game, regards to what level of football you play. But, you'd never made it to decide. Had that happened, that was never a thing. I don't remember that ever happened. Had you, had you did a play like that when I was growing up. You wouldn't have made it to the sideline.

Coach would have grabbed you by your face mask and pull your ass off the field. Man, listen. And I ask you this every time. A, Chad, let me know, Chad, if you ever saw this. I think about Miami. I think about Liberty City, the inner city, where I grew up, the way the high schools,

the optimist clubs, and the way the coaches coach. And I think one of the reasons why we are all so great and so many of us come out of our area and flourish at the highest level, despite circumstances, despite obstacles, it's because of us becoming numb to the way we're coached, as hard as it is,

and being used to the cursing and the hollering, especially in pressure situations, we're already built for it. We're already built for it. The documentary I asked you about a while ago, called The Year of the Bull. You never did see the Year of the Bull, huh? It's a documentary on Miami Northwestern,

the way the coaches were back then, and the way they coached some of those teams. unbelievable chat i don't know if any you saw the year the bull the documentary about miami northwestern where tady bridgewater went a lot of NFL players that are in the league now and former NFL players um though it's a reason why they're so great it's it's a reason because they're not baby they're not they're not pampered when it comes to plan the position i mean the the sport of football and at times it's needed because you you look at some of the mistakes that we make today.

Parents, you can't school your kids. You can't beat your kids the way you used to. It's frowned upon some of the mistakes and kids and being out of control back then. Yeah. It was a village. It was. You weren't getting away with some of that stuff today.

I'm in the grocery store. I'm hearing kids cussing that day mama. Like, what? You, I don't want, I don't fucking want to do it. What? When we go, we go in the stove. Your mama tell you getting out of the car. We go into the store, don't ask me for shit.

And don't touch, ish. And don't touch nothing. And when you're going to store, you're going to do two things. You're not going to touch nothing, and you ain't going to ask her for nothing. Now, what you might do, you might sneak something in the buggy and hope she pay for it when she pull everything out when you get to the register. Not Mayor Porter. Mayor Porter will say, take that ish back where you got it from.

And then it did go hit you upside your head and say, I told you not to put nothing in my buggy. Now, my grandma revealed, that was a whole different story. See, like grandparents, Ocho, we stayed with Mary and Barney. So my other grandparents, my dad's mom and father, they didn't see us that much. So what they're going to do? Give us whatever we want.

Soon as we hit the door, Papa, drop us off. Granddad and William and Grandma Childhood, we call it. Charlie, here go to them boys. Oh, Cho, I got my little bag. Soon as I hit the door. Grab my child. Can we go to the grocery store? All right.

Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, will you? Granted to will you. Load the car, hot dogs, hot dog buns, honey buns, potato chip, soda, because all she drank was tab soda. I don't know if anybody remember old enough to remember tab in that pink can. That ish was nasty. But boy, man, and she said, well, we're going to say, well, we're going to gonna go to the store later here here's the dollar for you and spanky give me a dollar

yeah we hit that dough there's a store probably like 50 by 50 yards yeah but man porter we go on saturday because really that's the only time we went shopping Saturday maybe maybe like a Friday afternoon Papa would take us we go pick up granted she had the got paid she go go cash a check and then we'll go but we already know what don't you put the blood please but you're right ohcho like there was a I don't know And maybe, maybe because it was always that way, Ocho, but we didn't have the internet. Everything wasn't filmed. So maybe kids were just as respectful then as they are now.

It's hard for me to believe that. But I just know for what I saw, but the parents ain't played that. And parents ain't played that. Now, every once in a while, you might see, you know, the white people, they were a little bit more. Okay, okay, mom, I'm not going to do it. but the black kids boy please

bad they ain't play that wherever Mary Porter say wherever you show out you get whoa out church grocery stone it didn't matter walking on the street it didn't matter

it didn't matter you're gonna get it right there and there hold on hold on I'm thinking I'm slick you know when it's a senior quiet time of my grandma in church and she see me acting up in the pew she ain't got to do nothing look at you

just there and you already know man come on man the saying it takes a village um I'm telling you man them days back then man

them 80s and them early 90s man them people ain't play no people that ain't play you've been act up where don't make me call your grandma my grandma my grandma would have been in twillogood socho

my grandma be in church I start crying. I already know. She says she going to cut my tail. I already know what she said, don't you know what she said, don't you? Hey, hey, listen, hold on. My grandma used to come on my arm and pinch. She had pinch my arm. Twist it. Twist. And then you know you're so young. Once you start crying, you're crying out loud. When she reached right in that purse, she gave me to either have butterscotch candy or peppermint to get me to get quiet. Oh, boy, them some good days, boy. Great. But see, we get the butterscotch that's already out the rap. We got everything or got a penny stuck to it. I'm like, can we get some candy with the wrapper on already? You gave you that butterscotch and that peppermint.

And that man got lit on it. It got little cotton fuzzies. They got a penny or a dime stuck to it. I was like, get here. Hold on. Hey, y'all, y'all had the candy with the strawberry. Yeah. Yes.

You know what I'm talking about? The way up. Man, listen. Boy. But, but, Ocho, to get back on this football thing, it's different. And I get it. Sometimes what, I mean, that was, some, some coaches that was abusive what they did. Obviously, you can't coach like that.

But that's why, that's why it would be hard for me to coach Ocho, because you know better. You've seen it. You just saw last week, Mitchell do it. And it cost himself a 76-yard touchdown. So, and it, and if they lost the game, I think, too, didn't he? Didn't they lose to the Rams? Didn't the Coast? Didn't the Coles lose that game with Mitchell Bobbitt?

I'm not sure. I think they did. I'm not sure. Yeah. They lost to the Rams, Ocho. Yeah. So you've seen it happen, but yet you're still doing it. Mm-hmm.

I just, I just, I just, I, like, like, a, like the 100 meters, anybody that breaks in the open from now on, cross through the line. You should. Pretend like you're running the 100, because you're not going to slow up before you cross that line. Same thing in football. Cross that line. Hey, I'm Ty.

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