Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Tua no cap, Bill Belichick gets defensive, Unc & The Goose

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from week 7 of the NFL season including Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagolvailoa declining to wear a guardian cap, Bill Belichick defending players after New England Patriots HC Jerod Mayo calls them “soft”, Unc’s tells a story about playing with the late. Great Tony “The Goose” Siragusa and much more!03:11 - Cardinals vs. Chargers07:18 - Tua says he won’t wear Guardian cap11:43 - Bill Belichick didn’t like Jerod Mayo calling some of his former players soft16:24 - Chiefs vs. 49ers24:10 - Lions vs. Vikings33:52 - Bengals vs. Browns41:50 - Unc’s story playing with “The Goose”(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you can feel go get your ass beat. Now what did the Chargers do? Chargers kick five field goals. The Cardinals scored two touchdowns in one field goal. Boo. Hey, that guy, that Kyle Murray, boy you see when he scramble boy and hit that sideline. Hey, listen, I knew he could run.

I didn't know he was that damn fast. Oh yeah, he take a thousand steps every 10 yards. I mean his feet like cartoon. He scared me. Yeah. But Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray, he was dishing. He was dishing. This game wasn't exciting to me. Obviously, it wasn't exciting as the Ravens-Bucks game, but it was good. It was good. It was good.

It was good. Listen, the goddamn Cardinals snapped the sixth game, Luther Street against AFC teams. Other than that, I mean, James, I don't want to mess up the last one. James Connor. James Connor. Despite the fumbles, everybody was peanut punching a night for some reason, knocking the balls out. It was a good game. It was a good game. The Chargers look, ah, for it to be a hardball run team now, they're not as good as I'd

expect them to be. Now, obviously it's his first year. It's his first year, but I'm sure at some point they will get going, especially on the on the defensive end with that much talent, with that much talent that he has at his disposal, you know, as a coach, I'm sure he'll get that defense going. I expect you see how you see how the

Minnesota Vikings defense looks when they play the Detroit Lions defense. That's what I expect. Yes. The goddamn charges to look like. the Detroit Lion defense, that's what I expect. Yes. The goddamn charges to look like. I, that's what I expect them to look like. Yeah. That's too, they got too, there's too much over there.

It's too much. I think if they were on any other team, you take, you know, those players and put them on any other team, it's different. Yeah. They got all pro players in Derwin James. They got pro. They got all pro. They got a defensive player of the year in Khalil Matt. They got a rookie of the year and a pro bowl player, an all pro player and Joey Bosa.

They got talent on that side of football. Asante Samuel Jr. Well, yeah, it's just for whatever reason. But you can office look uh Samuel Junior. Well, yeah. It's just for whatever reason but you can look at Justin Herbert 27 to 39. Yeah. 349 but you saw uh uh uh uh uh what's the guy? A Jalen Regger about to score

getting the ball punched out. Touchback on that play. I thought it was that way. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was close. It was close. And, you know, he didn't feel it because normally you try to when you catch the ball, you always try to put the ball closest to the sideline. So therefore, it goes out of bounds. Sometimes you get an unlucky bounce and, you know, you got it in that arm and it goes behind and it stays in bounds. It goes out of bounds. Sometimes you get an unlucky bounce and you know you got it in that arm and it goes behind and it stays in bounds but more times than not if you got the arm if the ball is into the arm that's closer to the sideline. Normally you get a favorable bounce but the

charges I mean I thought they run the ball a little better than what they did 22 rushes 59 yards not nearly good enough. That's a lot of pressure on your offensive line to have Justin Herbert dropped back 39 times. Uh, he was dealing, he was dealing, but yeah, you set up a field goals. And Arizona didn't do much, but when they got close, they punched the ball into the end zone. And they ended up winning the ball game. Oh, Joe, two of says he won't wear a guardian cap.

Dolph is running back Dave, Devon, A-chan, War 1 against the Colts on Sunday and his return from a concussion. But Tua said he will not do the same. Tua said it's a personal choice when asked why he decided not to wear the extra protection. Tua was also asked about those who are concerned about him putting himself at risk of lasting problems due to brain injury. He said, uh, there's a gray area in terms of what doctors believed in terms of long-term impact of concussions and playing football is what makes me happy. And I'm going to do it. I appreciate your concern.

I really do. I love this game. I love it to death. I love it to the depth of me. Hey, that's it. Hey chat, let me, let me help. Let me help that's it. Hey, chat, let me help everybody. Yep. Hey, chat, listen to me real quick.

And I'm not trying to be rude. I'm not trying to come off insensitive. I understand he's had concussions. You know, if you sign up for when you play a game of this magnitude that is as violent as it is. The Guardian Cap. The fuck is the Guardian Cap going to do? I mean no disrespect. I mean no disrespect. The brain itself, chat, y'all stay with me. The brain itself, it sits in a ball, a ball of fluid, right? No amount of extra padding externally, which is the guardian cap,

can fully protect players from concussions, especially if they've already had them. Multiple concussions. The brain is already damaged from crashing against the skull over and over and over, and there is no no amount of protection including a guardian cap that is going to protect the skull in general from the helmet the helmet impact just I mean just the guardian cap because still if you do get hit again even with the guardian cap on the ball of fluid is going to hit the skull and the same thing is going to happen. The same thing is gonna happen. So this perceived notion that

or if you put the guardian cap on, oh, it's gonna prevent concussions. No, the fuck it's not. No, it's not gonna prevent it. Just like you can wear your seatbelt and still die in a car crash. Just like the airbag. You could still die, but it does offer an extra layer of protection. Right, right, right.

It's not the end all be all. I understand what you mean, but these players are moving at such a fast rate of speed. Once that, once you're jarred up there, once you're jarred up there, even with that guardian cap and that fluid in that, and that brain hits the skull again, it's going to be the same thing. I don't think people at home, I know you watch football and you see it, I'm not sure how close you've been to the game, them motherfuckers moving fast as hell, man. Yeah. motherfuckers moving fast as hell man yeah the research says the Guardian caps

have contributed to nearly 50% reduction and concussions the cap can absorb at least 10% of the force of a hit according to NFL research that 10% of force makes a massive difference I ain't buying them numbers. Lemme ask you a thing, you think a seat belt helps save lives? Hey, that's why they tell you to buckle up. Why, how? Oh, so you don't want that extra layer of protection in the, you want that extra layer of protection

in the car, but now that you hear it. Hey, you hear the numbers, you see how they threw the numbers out for the, for the, for the Guardian, for the Guardian cap, right? How did you do the research? So where the research coming at? You had, you had to do it on a player that are actually playing in the game and play a full 76 even, huh?

And practice. They don't even, they hit nobody in practice, man. You know, everybody practices in them. Hey, come on, don't do me like that, man. Let me ask you a question. How much do the seat belt, how much does the seat belt reduce depth? How much does the airbag? It does, like no bullshit.

I'm not even going to sit here and play like that. I know multiple stories with the fact that they had they seatbelt on and it saved their ass. Bill Belichick did not take kindly to Gerard Mayo calling some of his former players soft. Bill went on Bill McAfee's show and said, you know defensively the Patriots led the league in rushing defense and this year they're way down to 20. It's some of the same guys. It kind of hurt for those guys to call them soft. They're not soft. They were the best team in the league against the run.

Is that why y'all had the third pick in the draft this year? Uh-oh. Hold on, hold on, Joe, before you answer that. I feel bad for the players defensively on that one because that's a tough group. Let me ask you this, Ocho. Yes, sir. Do you ever think Coach Belichick has ever called a team soft?

No, that's not the way he talks. It's not in his DNA. If he does call him soft, he'll never say it publicly. Okay, because here's the thing. Yes, sir. Because if he calls him soft, who selected those soft players? The individual. That said it.

Exactly. So, nah, you ain't called him soft. We led the league in's it. Exactly. So now you ain't calling us off. We let the league and Rush defense. Yeah, that's because everybody why I'm gonna run the ball when I can throw the ball over your head all all night long. Hey, oh Joe, I don't need to break in your window if the front door

is open. That's a good one. Hey, why would I do? Why would I break a window when the front door is open? Coach Belichick, I think Coach Belichick is the greatest coach in NFL history. Absolutely. But you had the third pick in the draft for a reason, coach.

Well, I mean, the inept quarterback play as well, but you right. I mean, they score, I mean, the NEP quarterback play as well, but you right. I mean, they score, I mean, that defense for them not to be solved, somebody scored on that defense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how many games they win last year?

Damn, I forgot, I forgot, I forgot what they won last year. Whether you want to call them solved, there were some questionable decisions on your part too, Coach Belichick. Now, remember, you had Joe Judge and you had Matt Patricia calling plays for the first time because arrogance. Now, I'm gonna take you right out of,

look, I don't know, Mayo, but all I know is this. The Jacksonville Jaguars ran the ball 16 straight times. Yeah. Not one, not two, not three, not four, not five. How many? Not 10, not 15, 16 straight times.

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Yeah, it's different. That's okay. Completely different. You should. Two different coaches styles. Hey everyone, this is Jimmy O'Brien from John Boy Media. I want to quickly tell you about my podcast. It's called Jimmy's Three Things.

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He has eight on the seasons. One was deflected on a deflected pass. The other was when Xavier Worthy fell on a route. He has six passing touchdowns and threw six games this season. KC Defense continues to stifle its opponent until Sunday marked the 27th consecutive game in which the Steelers Steelers, the chiefs have allowed 28 or fewer points on Sunday.

They stymied the 49ers run game, putting the ball in Brock Purdy's hand. And we already know spags, debunked pressure forced another three interceptions didn't pretty have like three. How many intercepts you had last week? Brock Purdy 17 to 31 to 1 to 3 touch 3 interceptions 0 touchdowns a QBR of 13 Mason they had to walk had 14 carries for 58 yards Brock Purdydy had eight for 27, 24 rushes, 101 yards. Now, okay. Hey. Okay, okay, okay, 49ers, tell us about Brock Purdy.

Heelie, y'all been telling me Heelie. Hey, Devo out, Joanne Jennings out. Are you got hurt? Are you got hurt? Are you got hurt? Christa McCaffrey? McCaffrey's out. I mean, hey, I'm not taking up for Purdy, but how efficient is she supposed to be when

your superstars are going like that? When the players that make that make that that make that team go or make that offense go? What what are you supposed to do? That's like if you got an engine but they ain't got no belt the engine run But the car can't move because they know belt on the goddamn engine. We don't make excuse I don't even know if that analogy makes sense But when lamar didn't have receivers, we didn't give them lamar no excuse When patch them home guys was dropping passes and they out of have receivers, we didn't give Lamar no excuse. When Patrick Mahomes' guys was dropping passes and they out of the game, we didn't give him no excuse.

So now we making excuses for the guy. They told me he was that guy. I'm just saying, he's a product of the system. I don't begrudge him for being in a system that have D-Boy and have IU and have all those weapons. I don't begrudge that, but let's call it what it is. It's almost a situation like Job, he has everything. Let's remove that hedge and see what he can do.

Oh, hey, Job, Job gonna get it done anyway now. No, I'm saying Job in the Bible. The devil told- Oh, oh, talking about Job, oh, hey, that's my nigga. Job, cool, boy. You remember the day? Look at Job. The devil said, of course he's gonna praise the devil.

The devil told you, he said you yeah, he's like yeah He's gonna praise you you gave him everything. He said remove that head Janelle cuss is very maker Boy listen and and listen that goes for a lot of things in life, too Oh, hey some some of your best friends some of the people you think is your friends. Tell them no one time watch what happened That's what anybody oh Joe I don't sign 51 asshole. I mean, I'm in the airport all the time Ocho. And you know, they're like, hey, you mind if I get a picture?

I said, man, man, I wish I could. I say, but airport all the time, Ocho. And you know, they're like, hey, you mind if I get a picture? I said, man, I wish I could. I said, but if I take one, I mean, then everybody goes. But hey, nobody's going to notice it. So nobody's going to see me with my me and you standing side by side, my arm around you. Nobody goes see me. Nobody goes see that. It's like, damn. Nobody's going to recognize you. I said, you did. Yeah.

Mm hmm. I said, oh. But that. Mm-hmm. I said, bro. But that's how it is, Ocho. And you learn to accept those things. You learn that every, like, you learn a lot about people when you tell them no. Mm-hmm. Yeah, hold on. When you tell them no and when you make them angry,

you tell them no, you make them angry. You find out a lot. I'm like, damn, I told you one time. One time. I say one. Yeah. Yeah. And now I'm a mofo. I ain't ish. Damn. I ain't never done nothing for you before. Okay. Well, god, am I just? If I ain't done it, sometimes you gotta start writing stuff down you do for people and then remind them later on

when they kind of forget, when you say no, like, listen, this is the right time for this. Because here's the thing, because here's the thing, you just have to put limits on what you give. Takers never put limits on what they take. Oh no, they gonna take that. So I don't need to remind you So I don't need to remind you. I don't need to remind you.

Ocho, I really, there's only been a handful of time in my life that I've given something and I've expected something in return. Normally if I give somebody, now if it's a large sum, let's just say I give somebody, somebody I really know. I'll say, hey bro, they I'll just say, hey bro, they say hey, Sean, hey bro, I need I need you. I need a favor. Okay, what? Hey, say no more. What is it? Bro, can you can you slide me? Can you slide me 100? No problem. 100 dollars? 100,000.

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And let the other 50 go. Okay, okay, you're a real one. You're a real one. I like that, I like that. Like, cause the thing is, look, cause here's the thing, I look at like my friends, my true friends, if the roles were reversed,

I can honestly say- They'll do it for you. No question. Man, I tell the story, bucket to tell you, I had a Range Rover. I only had like 20,000 miles on it. And I was gonna get it, the new model was coming out.

And he said, man, homeboy, I said, homeboy, I'm gonna get rid of my truck, you want it? He like, homeboy, I would love to have it, but homeboy, I can't afford that. I said, hey, I'll cut you a deal. The blue book on it was like 60. I said, I tell you what, can you swing 25?

I said, I tell you what, give me 25. I just got another four year extended warranty, which was about $6,000. So it's about $66,000 total. I said, give me 25 and I'll let you have it. He said, you for real? So he go to the credit union and it's like he gave him the VIN number and everything

and they pull it up and they said, he only wants 25? That's my homeboy. And I only charged him 25 because I don't want him to feel like, I want him to feel like I paid for this. My homeboy ain't give me nothing. Right, right, right, right.

That's what I do for my homeboy. But normally if I give somebody a large sum of money, like somebody I know that obviously my brother and my sister, my brother ain't no nothing. He ain't gotta pay me, he ain't never gotta pay me back. He can come get a million right now and he good for it forever. But my homeboys, like people I know, they good.

They good. I don't ask for anything. Anytime I give anybody money, I don't expect it back. Cause I'm only gonna give you what I can afford to give and not expect it back. So I'm not gonna give you something that, man, I wonder when you gonna pay me back. And then I don't want you to avoid me, Ocho.

You know how some people, you give somebody Ocho, and all of a sudden- And you don't hear from a no mo. You don't hear from a no mo. The Vikings fall fall undefeated as the Lions go into Minnesota and beat them. 31-29, Jerry Goff has nine touchdowns and 15 incompletions during the Lions'

current four-game win streak. The Lions have scored 120 points over the past three games. Are the most in a three-game span since they scored 125 in 1997 with the Eagles and 49ers sorting through a bunch of early season issues with the head to head road victory of the Vikings in their pocket the Lions are the NFC's team to beat the Lions gave up 383 yards but when it counted late they got off the field give it to their offense and guess what But when it counted late, they got off the field, give it to their offense.

And guess what? Jerry Goff went down the field, got in field goal range, they kick a walk off field goal, Jameer Gibbs, 116 rush yards, collected another 144 rushing. He became the first Lions player with 150 plus scrimmage yards and two rushing touchdowns in a game since 2011. That game was good. It was,. Jerry golf was 22 or 25. Jerry golf stats. Oh Joe 22 or 25 to 82 touchdown. Remember he had a game this season where he was 18 of 18. So he had 22 or 25 for 282 touchdown clean no picks. They rushed the ball 27 times, 144, two touchdowns.

Armand-Ren St. Brown, eight catches, a buck 12, one touchdown, Gills, four for 44. Kaleef Raymond, three for 39, a tub. Montgomery, three for 39. LaPorta, the only one that didn't do a whole lot was Jamison Williams. But it's so funny, the fact that you just said that. Last week, Jameson Williams went off.

Last week, Jameson Williams went off and Amon Ross Saint Brown didn't really do anything. This week, Jameson Williams didn't do much and Amon Ross Saint Brown goes crazy. The balance, Jameer Gibbs, one week, he has a good game. David Montgomery doesn't do much. I think it's the first game this season that Montgomery hadn't scored a touchdown.

Yeah, Jameer Gibbs was on fire today, boy. He was on fire. I think they were able to do so well offensively because they was able to run the ball. Yeah. It made the pass the game that much better. Oh, they gonna run the ball now,, it made that made the passing game that much better. Oh, they don't run the ball now. Oh, yeah.

You know, their coach believes in that. Yeah, because running the football is a mentality. It's not about tricking somebody. It's about lining up and man, a mono, a mono, putting a hat and moving a man against his will. That's what the running game is about.

It's about an attitude. It's about I believe that I'm more physical than you. And so now that sets up everything else. Detroit, I ain't breaking no news to nobody. Detroit legit, Ocho. Hold on. Talk about Aaron Glenn and that defense. Oh, they're getting better.

Hey, Aaron Glenn and that defense, that goddamn Brian Branch. He'll ball halt. I know people probably tired of me talking about Brian Branch. That boy is, boy he nice, bro. He nice, depending on what package he's in, sometimes it's a nickel, sometimes it's that safety.

Man, all over the place. And they young, they young, Ocho.. Yeah they got a bunch of babies out there. They're gonna be good for a while. Outside of Carlton Davis I think Carlton Davis might I might be wrong but Carlton Davis might be the oldest player and he ain't even old. Yeah he be he. It looked good Terriyanna Arnold out there. Them boys had their hand full with Justin Jefferson and they they they did an okay job. He had one for 81, he had eight targets, one touchdown. Addison had three for 66, Naylor had four for 76, but they did a job.

Sam Darna was 22 with 27, 259, one touchdown, one interception, did a great job, they pressured it. Yeah, he wasn't that bad. Aaron Jones running the ball extremely well again. Yeah. You still think they need to go, to get somebody to replace him? Hell yeah.

I'm going to get Crosby. Oh, still think, yeah. Can you imagine what that defense would be with that kind of pressure now? That'd be crazy. I'm trying to win win Ocho. Oh, you know, I got another one. I got another one for you just to throw it out there. The number one pick that went to

Jacksonville a few years ago. The walker. What you think? Uh no, I take, I'll take what I take. I'll take uh Max over that. Absolutely. Okay. Max Motor. I was? Absolutely. Max Motor. Max Motor. Max have what you can't teach. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He don't go now. That relentless effort. You can't teach that. He don't go

24-7. Hey like a college frat boy. He don't go. The trade deadline is what? Next week? Next week? Next Tuesday? Or is it this Tuesday? Next Tuesday.

So a week from Tuesday, Ocho, is the trade deadline. Right. I ain't waiting. We're gonna see. You ain't waiting. Hey, what y'all want from Max? I give you a first and a third. I give you a first this year, a third this year,? I give you a first and a third I get your first this year a third this year and I give you a fifth next year the following 20 20 26

Yeah, I heard somebody talk about man. We ain't game give it ain't give it up No, Matt Carp is no first and a third shit the hell. Hey, you crazy For what? Cuz let me ask you a question Tell me the player that you're gonna get because you're going to the playoffs and I believe you're going to make a deep run. Tell me the player that you can get in the draft that's going to be 28 or lower. That's better than Max Crosby.

Tell me the player that y'all can get. Nathaniel. And here's the thing. He can't help you till 25. Max Crosby can help you in 24. Right. So for me, it's a no brainer for me. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,

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it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it I mean, obviously, I think to let's go with the GM, but Mark Davis, obviously, when you when you trade, when you trade a franchise player like Crosby, obviously, the the the owner is going to be involved in it. And because here's the thing, you don't have a quarterback. And you might go to one of you might want to get extra some extra ammunition to move up to go get one Get you get make get you a fire make it a fire cell then look y'all are doing it. You're not good First of all, you're not going nowhere

You're not going anywhere. You know that I know that you're not going So i'm not going to oh joe Here's the thing right now Now I can lose the house and then I can sell all the parts in it and then maybe move down and get me something next year. But I didn't feel like I could take everything, so what? I keep Max Crosby. He's already made it abundantly clear.

I don't wanna be a part of a rebuild. I'm about winning. You're not gonna win in winning. You're not going to win in Vegas. You're not. Yeah, he know that. They know that. Yes. Yeah, listen, the lions to the raiders. Dan Campbell need to send my homie Antonio Pierce a message and just text him, help me help you.

Yeah. That's it. Nothing else. Help me help you. Yeah. Nothing else, help me help you. And I get him out of the ALC. Go to the ALC, go to the ALC. I ain't gotta worry about you. You ain't gotta. Cause I ain't gonna face you anytime soon.

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Fans booed DeSean Watson after he goes down what appears to be an Achilles injury. Namus? Appears? We see it pop. You can see it through the song and the replay. We got to go with what appears to be a serious Achilles injury. Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. OK, go ahead. OK. Bingo's win 2114.

Jamus, a healthy scratch, comes in as an emergency quarterback because Dorian Thompson, he gets Nick. Jamus was the emergency quarterback. He had to come in. He was five of 11 for 67 yards. Dorian Thompson was 11 of 24 for 82 yards. And Deshaun was having a pretty good game. He was 15 of 17 for 128 yards.

But he can't seem to catch a break, Ocho. He just can't seem to catch a break. That's tough. That's tough. That's tough for him. Obviously, I mean, depending on who you are and how you feel about Deshaun Watson, the football player, the football player, you want to see him do well. You want to see him do well. Outside of that, obviously, you know, the rumblings and the bullying of him being injured.

I can't get down with that. Yeah, you probably can't get down with that. But you have to understand, you know, we all we all treat things differently. You can't it's hard to tell people how to react based on things that have happened in the past that have occurred, so it's like it's tough. It's tough. It's tough. You know, some people aren't gonna forget that.

Not forget. I get all that, but somebody gets hurt and you applaud that. I don't believe it. I don't believe them. I look, they have the right. They paid their heart and money because in the introduction, when he came out,

they had Nick Chubb last they booed him they cheered Nick Chubb I ain't got no problem with that you have the right but when somebody gets injured for you to applaud that I'm out yeah hey but you know how people are like when you listen they don't man listen if they ain't fucking with you, excuse my language, it don't matter what it is, hurt, you pass away, they don't care. You playing bad, they give two zero zero you know what, they don't care. They don't care.

You know how fans are, oh shit, up man, shit. I mean I can, might dislike something or someone, but I'm not gonna applaud mishap. I'm not gonna applaud unfortunes. I can, might dislike something or someone, but I'm not gonna applaud mishap. I'm not gonna applaud unfortunes. Somebody getting injured or somebody die, people like that, oh, I'm happy. Huh? Yeah.

You happy? Nah, I don't operate like that. No matter what I think of somebody, I don't wish death on them. Yeah. I don't. And I don't wish death on them. Yeah I don't and I don't wish injury on someone because it's like I just like I said you paid your money you want to boo the man, boo the man but I just there's never going to be a situational show where somebody gets injured and I'm going to be happy. You clapping? Yeah. Yeah. I just, but again, you know, when it comes to fans and you know how fans are, they're very fickle, very, very fickle. Things haven't been going well in

Cleveland, you know, for them, um, based on the quarterback play throughout the season this year, they probably wanted a change of the quarterback position and just everything coming full circle and him going down. And I think with the frustration from the fans and that's what we got today. Obviously the stuff that happened off the field didn't make it any better. Joe Burrow was 15 to 25, 181, two touchdowns.

He got sacked three times. I mean, they didn't do anything spectacular. I mean, they had 20, think about it, Ocho, they had 25 rushes for 59 yards. Yeah. It was the turnovers that they got a 100-yard kickoff return and they got a short, you know, Thompson turned them all over twice.

But it wasn't like they did anything spectacular. T Higgins had four for 82, Chase had five for 55. They both caught a touchdown, but that was it. I mean, if you look at it, 25, 25. So again, another 50 plus plays, which is crazy. 50 plays. But it's not how many plays, it's making the plays that you have count. And when they

got opportunities, Chase made a guy miss called a quick pass, made a guy miss hit the seam he's in the end zone. Chase ran a great route. Joe threw a great ball, touchdown. And you know, like I said, he got the 100 yard kick return to start the game. Oh, Joe. Charlie Jones. Yeah. Oh, that first play on the inside the 100 yard kick return to start the game. Oh, Charlie Jones. Yeah. Oh, that first that first play on the inside. That was that was a slam route. Double double slants. That was T. And then it was Chase that court to fade on Greg Newsome.

You say you saw he hit the Tyrone and step. Wait, listen, the Brown the offense though. It's bad. So who's a, James Winston is going to be the starter from now on. He might. I mean, it all depends on Dorian Thompson. He might. He is the starter. Well, Dorian Thompson is healthy.

He came in because he's the- No, remember, James Winston was a healthy scratch today. He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch.

He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch. He's a healthy scratch.ian Thompson. He might. He is a star. Dorian. Dorian Thompson is healthy. He came in because he's remember James Wilson was a healthy scratch today. He wasn't even dressed. He was the third quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, third quarterback one dress.

No, they dressed him. No, let's bet. Bet five dollars. Yeah, the Sean Winnie. I mean, Thompson went in after the shine got hurt Right, but I'm saying they went in the game with two quarterbacks. Yeah, James Winston dressed today I'm saying there's a reason why he wasn't he wasn't dressed Oh Joe because Why you put him up you put a third quarterback up? That means you got to take an offensive line with a defense alignment a wide

you put him up, you put a third quarterback up, that means you gotta take an offensive line with a defensive line with a wide receiver. Oh yeah, you gotta take some minutes. Okay, okay, okay. So unless Jame was playing a running down, no point to kick off a kick kick return. We can't have him dress. Now.

So he is gonna be the starter or Dorian Thompson gonna be the starter? Thompson got nicked. We don't know the significance of the injury. So once we find out he might he could be the starter because Thompson's injury is so bad he might not be able to play then you have wait hold on i just thought about that i'm tripping so Dorian Thompson was the second year quarterback so there's a possibility if Thompson is nicked really good,

really good or bad, however you want to look at it, he might not be able to play next week. And then you, I mean, you won't have any choice but to put Jamus, because we know Deshawn is not playing. Yeah. Damn, that's unfortunate, man. It is.

And what's Cleveland, what you think and what could have been, it's over. It's over, Ocho. Hey, you, oh my goodness, man. Just like through, nevermind, I don't wanna talk about that because that's, that's, that's your nasty thing. It is nasty it is seeing that thing pop you know when they do it in slow motion you can see the vibration through the sock the little ripple yep I knew exactly what it was Brady Cook returned from the hospital to lead number 19 the number 19 Tigers Missouri Tigers

to a comeback win over Auburn. Cook went to the hospital for an MII, but later returned in the third quarter with Missouri down 17-6. Cook immediately led Missouri on his first touchdown drive of the game. Redshirt freshman Jamal Roberts finished things with a 4-yard scoring plunge as Missouri defense stifled Auburn on 4th and 18th with less than 10 seconds left on the clock to secure the win Cook returned and the fact that it looks like he'll be okay moving forward is huge for the Tigers I ain't seen nothing like this here Ocho He pulled that pole up here, huh?

Wheel to the wheel here, MRI Come back in and I could fool But you know how long an MRI take on? Yeah, I do. I've had several of these bad ass hips. Hey, man, buddy went and got an MRI and came back and went crazy. Yeah, yeah, I know how long it took.

It reminds me of a situation, rest is so goose. Man, yeah man, goose. Check this out man, goose. We playing in Baltimore and I know the fans of Baltimore, I know y'all remember this. Man, goose got hit. Goose can't move, goose can't move so they come out there, they put a board up on his big ass

and get him out the field. He get him out the field. Get him out the field. Goose leaving the ambulance. Right. What, he left in the ambulance? Next thing you know, Goose come running back out on the field. Man, I said, come on, man.

Man. Hey, what was wrong with you? Nothing. You probably had to go to the bathroom. Hey, boy, that's funny, man. Man, Goose. Goddamn, Tony. Goose was always doing something. Man, they had to get Goose one time.

Yeah, Lamar did, that also gives Cleveland. Man, Goose had to go to the bathroom, Goose say, whatever you do, don't roll me over. Man, he kept, man, Goose kept some bull jobs going. He really did. Man, I say, man, first of all, ain't no way in hell now, especially NFL game, they cart you off the field, Ocho,

they gonna let you come back in the game. Oh no. Man, but the thing, man, I think about, man, I think about some of the stuff that we did, that they allowed, ain't no way. Ain't no way they allowed you to do that. It wouldn't work. Yeah. Ain't no way. Ain't no way they allowed you to do that. It wouldn't work.

Nope. Cause I remember I knocked myself out in the game against the Patriots on a Monday night. Missed like two quarters. Man, they got late in the ball game. They talk about, hey, Sharpe, we need you. Cause they took my helmet at first. Oh, you went back in?

The game got close. Hey, I'm holding three fingers up. How many fingers I got up three. Let's go. He good. I went right over. Y'all gonna look it up. I went right on back out there with Joe. Hey, Hey, thatHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Against the Rules. Listen to Against the Rules on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey everyone, Jake Storielli here from John Boy Media. I want to tell you about my podcast,

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