Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: UConn goes back-to-back, Caitlin Clark criticism, Ceedee Lamb holdout?

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the climactic end to the NCAA Tournament as the University of Connecticut takes on Zach Edey and the Purdue Boilermakers for the men's national cha...mpionship,  Diana Taurasi drawing heat for her recent comments about University of Iowa superstar Caitlin Clark, and a potential holdout by CeeDee Lamb looming over the Dallas Cowboys offseason. 0:00 Introduction04:30 UConn beats Purdue to win 2nd straight Nat’l Championship20:30 Diana Taurasi gets heat for comments on Caitlin Clark38:00 Dawn Staley’s style and which coaches have the best fashion43:30 Potential holdout could happen with CeeDee Lamb51:20 Only 4 QBs drafted in the top 10 have been all pros since 199057:45 Anthony Richardson says he's “on a mission” after missing most of rookie season after shoulder injury #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:35 They be produced 75-60 for the second straight national championship. And I remember when Dan Hurley in 2020 said, you better get us now because we're going to come. Yeah. And he wasn't lying. They came on like gangbusters. UConn became the eighth program to repeat as national champs. The first since the Florida Gators did it in 2006, 2007. And before that, Duke was the last team to do it. Nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety two. And the last team to repeat as national champs
Starting point is 00:06:06 before the 1991 season you guessed it, the UCLA Bruins who won 10 straight. Damn! They went from 64 until 73. Jesus! That will never be. Wait a minute, wait a minute let me show you my
Starting point is 00:06:21 basketball knowledge. Was their coach Mr. Wooden? Yes. See? You thought I ain't used to that. See? I'm on top of the game now. Do you know where he went to school at?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Who? Coach Wooden. I would assume he went to UCLA as well. No, he went to Indiana. Who? He was a who? No, he went to Purdue. They used to
Starting point is 00:06:45 call him indiana rubber man first call and he coached uh the sycamores indiana state i think from 46 to 48 okay okay that's that's the ucla the wizard of westwood oh other programs to repeat oklahoma state did it in 45 and 46 kentucky did it in 4849. San Francisco the Dons, led by the great Mr. Bill Russell. 55-56 and the Cincinnati team. Oscar was on that team. No, Oscar was already gone. Oscar was gone. Oscar was in the
Starting point is 00:07:16 NBA. Oscar was in the NBA in 61-62 because that was the year he had a triple-double. So UConn claimed his sixth national title to break the tie with Duke and Indianadouble. So UConn claimed its sixth national title to break the tie with Duke and Indiana, who has five. UConn, they've never lost in the title game, have they? I think they're perfect
Starting point is 00:07:32 6-0. One of the teams, I think they're perfect 6-0 in the title game. So congratulations to the UConn Huskies. I hate you, Molly, and I know you're going to be insufferable tomorrow as you are most days, especially when it comes to UConn men or women. But congratulations. And we'll discuss the purse.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Ocho, you watch this game tonight. What did you like about what you saw from the Huskies? I mean, obviously, I heard so much about Zach Eadie, obviously. And so I was expecting him to dominate the game. That's what I was expecting. Some of that size, some of that stature. I heard I heard expecting him to dominate the game that's what I was expecting some of that some of that stature I hear I heard about him all season long I heard about how good he was but what I did hear is that his style of play wouldn't transition to the NBA so obviously me not understanding that because I don't watch the game of basketball much so I tuned in tonight right so I'm gonna see let's see what he does I'm expecting him to So I'm going to see, let's see what he does. I'm expecting him to dominate.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I'm expecting to see Kevin Durant-ish type stuff. I'm expecting to see Wimbayama. Did I say his last name right? How do you say it? Wimbayama. Wimbayama. Yeah, that's what I'm expecting to see. So after watching him tonight
Starting point is 00:08:40 and then watching UConn somewhat dominate, well, not dominate him, but just dominate the game in general, I got a better understanding on why it probably wouldn't translate because he's very, very slow-footed. He didn't play fast. There was really no... No, that's not what he is.
Starting point is 00:08:55 No urgency. There's no urgency to his game, man. He plays with it back to the basket. Now I understand the terminology it won't translate to the Huskies yeah but them boys nice man them boys nice Tristan
Starting point is 00:09:12 is it Tristan Newton yep Tristan he got to see me one on one he got to see me one on one I mean you can't expect anymore from Zach Eady. He gave you 37 and 10, but they only had two guys in double figures.
Starting point is 00:09:29 They had a guy with 12, and then you have a four-point guy, a five-point guy, and a two-point guy. That's not going to get it done. When you got UConn, you got 11 points, 15 points, 20 points, and 11 points. They got 13 points off the bench, and Purdue got two points off the bench. points. They got 13 points off the bench and Purdue got two points off the bench. You got a few people in double digit
Starting point is 00:09:47 scoring for the Huskies. So, and I mean no disrespect, the Purdue team is similar to what is Edie having to score the point. Is it similar or fair to say Edie is similar to like Caitlin Clark having to do everything and everything on their shoulders?
Starting point is 00:10:04 But the difference is you have to get him the ball. You say idiot, similar to like Caitlin Clark having to do everything and everything on their shoulders. Okay. But the difference is you have to get him the ball. Caitlin Clark has the ball in her hands. Right. So she's able to score. Yes. Not only can she score, she can create for other people to score. But it's very similar. Nobody outside of him.
Starting point is 00:10:21 They normally make, in the tournament, they're averaging about eight threes made per game. They made one tonight, if I'm not mistaken. Last I saw, they made one three. What were they? They had 10 last game. They had 10 last game, if I'm not mistaken. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And they had a bad night shooting, a real bad night shooting. And that's what you needed. Go ahead. I have one question. You would know better than me as far as the development of a basketball player and a person's skill set.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Is it too late? Speaking of easy, is it too late to develop a skill set where it can transition into the NBA or is it too late to learn a new bag of tools
Starting point is 00:11:00 that would help him play at the next level? It's too late, huh? Will an elephant ever be able to run like a cheetah? No, no, hell no. Wimby Yama, you look at Wimby, you say, well, look at Wimby. He can put the ball on the floor, but he's been putting the ball on the floor. He's been shooting threes since he was seven, eight years old.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So you see the maturation. Zach Eaton has never played like that. So you're asking a guy to redo his game. Now, we saw Brooke Lopez. Brooke Lopez came out of college as a back-to-the-basket player. But he saw where the evolution of the game was going, and he turned himself into a stretch five. So can it be done? Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Is it highly likely? No. Look, there are shooting coaches out here uh that could probably work with him but i give him a 10 i give him a 10 15 chance because it's all it's a mind thing yeah yeah because you have to understand ocho that's what he is i mean you see i mean he doesn't i mean he doesn't i think brooke lopez could drop step, left hand, drop step, right hand. He could turn around, shoot the jumper. He's back to his back, basically.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And as Klingman kept pushing him further and further against the basket, the jump hook kept coming up shorter and shorter. So he's going to have to evolve his game. He's going to have to work on other aspects of his game. He's going to be able to have to turn over either shoulder, right shoulder, left shoulder, left hand, right hand, drop step to the right, drop left. He's going to have to be able
Starting point is 00:12:32 to do that. But right now, he's gotten away because he's so much bigger. You remember when you were the kid? And the kid that was so much bigger, they were able to do things just because of their size? Well, in the NBA, because the game is played in so much space it's an up and down game and so and he's not that good of a he's not that
Starting point is 00:12:52 good of a defender so he's not a rudy gobert that that's gonna you know impact you on the defensive end so he has some work cut out for him if he wants to transition what do you mean the nba i don't you know because you're about Paul, though. You're talking about transition. Transition to the NBA. Right. What do you mean he's not that good of a defender? You're 7-7 what?
Starting point is 00:13:12 7-4? 7-5? 7-4. 7-4. Do you see the guys laying the ball up all in his face? Yeah. He needs a little bit more. Just a little bit more aggression.
Starting point is 00:13:21 That's it. A little bit more. He needs a little bit of... Ah. What's his name? name god damn keep getting in trouble why is slipping my mind man who draymond he needed a little draymond in him that's what he need he needed a little bit a little bit huh that's who draymond is yeah i'm just saying because i'm i'm thinking about his the size he has how can i'm not saying it's a waste i about the size he has. How can... I'm not saying it's a waste. I'm not saying he's a waste.
Starting point is 00:13:48 But knowing that you want to get to the next level, you should have been working and being able... working on your game so it's able to transition to the next level. And the fact that now you're done and I keep hearing, you know, a birdie here, a birdie there, to have that kind of size and not be going to the NBA
Starting point is 00:14:04 or being a lottery pick, shit. I'm sorry. Okay. You have to think about it. He was, it takes a special type of person to win.
Starting point is 00:14:16 He was college, he was AP College Player of the Year. So he's a two-time AP College Player of the Year. Jerry Lucas, I think Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Walton,
Starting point is 00:14:29 Ralph Sampson, seven-foot-four Ralph Sampson played out in Virginia. He was a three-time AP. So you're talking about very, very elite company that Zach Eady's in. Now, that'll be like telling Patrick Mahomes, you know what, Patrick Mahomes, yeah, we know you won
Starting point is 00:14:46 Super Bowl, we've been MVP, but all of a sudden we want you to be like a read option type quarterback. How willing do you think he's going to be able to do when he's had success doing it his way? But listen to what you already said. Patrick Mahomes is already in the NFL and he's already had success
Starting point is 00:15:03 in the NFL. We want Edie. Well, me personally, after seeing him tonight, seeing his size, seeing how much he he didn't dominate. But from the 37 and 10, they only know you realize they only score 60 points. Right. Well, you know, you know what I mean? I'm talking about like dominate. Dominate to the point to where I got to put up 60 if my team wants a chance to even win. I mean, from that extent.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I'm trying to think the last guy that I've ever heard of that scored 60 points in a college game was Jody Meeks. When was the last time somebody scored 60 points in an NCAA Division I game? Jody Meeks? Yeah, from Kentucky. I think he broke Dan Ilse's record at Kentucky. He dropped 60 in a game. Yeah, I don't see it. I'm watching the game, and the people around me kept talking about, oh, he's doing all this,
Starting point is 00:15:56 but he's not going to make it to the NBA. There's no way he makes it. His game style isn't going to transition. I'm like, man, what are you talking about? At that size, there's a team, there's an NBA team that could use that length, that could use that height. I mean, and then you just said he's not a good defender. Well, goddamn, what's the good part?
Starting point is 00:16:17 What's the good part about a game that will transition in the NBA? Yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about there. Eddie House dropped 61 in 2000. When did Jody Meeks do it? Wait, Eddie House? You talking about Boston Celtics, Eddie House? Yeah. Hey!
Starting point is 00:16:38 So that's 2000. We're in 24. So let that sink in. So that's not a normal occurrence to see a guy get that, get those numbers, get that number of points. He averaged 28 and 15 in the
Starting point is 00:16:53 tournament, so he probably averaged what, 29 and 14 because he only had 10 rebounds a night. So he dominated. I mean, if somebody told, okay, in the NBA, he's going to give you 10 at 29 or 12 on a nightly basis, they would actually gobble him up. But if you look
Starting point is 00:17:10 at Giannis... I'm using the wrong word. I shouldn't say, I shouldn't use the word dominate, but okay, okay, you're right. What's the record for Kentucky? I thought he scored 60. He scored 54. So Eddie House was the last guy D1. I'm thinking like, you know, Kentucky, Duke, Carolina, teams like that.
Starting point is 00:17:33 She said somebody from North Dakota State and Utah Valley scored. But I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, look, he's a big guy, and he's going to have to go. He's going to have to get with someone that would really work on with his feet. Because you look at Joel Embiid, you see how big he is, but Joel Embiid played soccer. Look at Akeem Olajuwon. Akeem Olajuwon played soccer.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Anthony Davis was a guard, hit a growth spurt. David Robinson was short, grew 13 you grew a foot so you look you talk about guys that were used to handling the ball they weren't always as big as they are and so when you that see here's the thing on show when you're that tall hey just get down the paint son we're gonna dump you the ball just turn around and lay it in okay yeah everybody's kicking the ball down the road remember what we talked about we had the tebow topic so it's someone working with it with fundamentals well when you get to college they'll work with you and college said well hey we try to
Starting point is 00:18:32 win games when you get to the nfl they'll work with you now you get to the nfl and you have an unfit you have an unfinished product right that people want to you know hey you got to be able to do this this is this is elementary this elementary. This is one-on-one. Okay, I got you. You're basically going to have to strip Zach Eady down and change his whole game. Because now he's going to have to play on the perimeter. He's going to have to be able to shoot threes.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Unless he's like, okay, I'm going to be a defender. I'm going to be Rudy Gobert. Yeah. Well, hell, if I'm not mistaken, Giannis, when Giannis first came to the league, he didn't really have a mid-range game. He wasn't able to shoot from three. Now. He's okay from three.
Starting point is 00:19:19 He's okay from mid-range. But you see what he does? Yeah. Downhill. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He coming down here every time.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yes. You see Zach Eady doing that? You already told me he was slow afoot. Watching the night, he moved very lethargic. I'm like, come on, man. If he was like Shaq... Shaq. You see how nimble Shaq was? Boy, you...
Starting point is 00:19:42 Remember Shaq, the little clip of him and Jordan? Him and Jordan playing around? Yeah, the All-Star game. And to be that size to be able to move like that? Right. Right. I just think the thing is, will somebody probably draft him? I don't think he's a
Starting point is 00:20:00 first-round pick. Will somebody take a fly on him in the second round? Sure. Probably non-guaranteed contract. Get him in, try to work him down, and maybe you can make something out of him. Hell, ain't nothing. Look at Nikola Jokic was a second round pick. He's about to be a three-time MVP in five years.
Starting point is 00:20:15 How does he even slip that far? Especially Jokic. He got himself in shape. He was a little doy. He wasn't in the greatest of shape. He got himself in shape. He's still not doy. He wasn't in the greatest of shape. He got himself in shape. He's still not in shape. Oh, he's in shape now.
Starting point is 00:20:30 No, you ought to see him when he first got to the league. He's in shape now. He was a big boy? He was big? Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. He changed his diet.
Starting point is 00:20:37 He ain't drinking a case of sodas a day. He ain't eating bull jive. But you see, as skilled as any big we've had around the basket touch. He can shoot the three can shoot the mid range. He can lay off right. Tremendous touch.
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Starting point is 00:22:50 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, it's time for our next segment and it's called News Cat. Let me grab my ashtray. Diana Taurasi draws heat for a recent
Starting point is 00:23:11 Kaitlyn Clark comments. DT, Diana Taurasi, told Scott Van Pelt, look, SBP, reality is coming. There's level to this thing, and that's just life. We all went through it. You see it on the NBA side. You're going to see it on this side. You look superhuman playing against 18-year-olds,
Starting point is 00:23:29 but you're going to play against some grown women that have been playing professional basketball for a long time. The response to her comments was swift, and many call it a hater. What I don't understand, Ocho, fans, we want people that have played the game to comment about people playing the game. And the minute they comment, the minute people that
Starting point is 00:23:51 played the game or that's playing the game comment and they say something about a player that you don't like, now it's hating. Now, look, there are some instances in which I do believe old-timers are hating, but I don't believe that's what she's doing. You and I have talked about it.
Starting point is 00:24:08 When a rookie comes in, you've won an award. You would highly sought after. We got to see why. Yeah. We ain't hating on you, but we don't see why. Right. I think, you know what, for me, I respect Diana. I'm going to call her DT.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I respect DT and what she had to say. I just don't, I can't watch what Kayden Clark has done. Forget the accolades. I can't see what Clayton Clark has done, Kayden Clark has done on the field, on the field, on the court, week in and week out for the past two years and even utter some of the comments that Ms.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Taurasi said. Because obviously there's going to be a transition period going into the NBA. I understand that. I understand that. But saying that maybe it might, you know, her skill might not transition or just... That's not what she said.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I mean, hold on. Let me read this. Go ahead and read what she said. Wasn't saying Clark wouldn't succeed at the professional level, but rather suggested the future rookie could struggle making the transition. Why? Why does she have to struggle? Why does she have to struggle? why does she have to struggle because all rookies go through it you you you think you think so you don't think she might come in and be okay based on this on the
Starting point is 00:25:33 situation based on the team she goes to she's going to indiana if i'm not mistaken she's going to indiana the number one pick last year she's going to be playing with more talent right what what does south carolina doept her from going left. Right. So now, if that's a college, so what do you think the pros are going to do? You think, who has better scouting departments? Colleges or pros? Obviously, the pros.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Obviously, the pros. But again, you have to understand, the Clayton Clark that we just saw and the Clayton Clark that you're going to see, where they're going to help her with some of the things that she struggled with in college, things are going to be a little different. I'm just saying, to that she struggled with in college, things are going to be a little different. I'm just saying, to watch what she did in college, I would have been very hesitant to make
Starting point is 00:26:11 these type of comments. But again, this is someone that played the game. This is someone that's very experienced. This is someone that was very good at the game. So she has the right to do it. I just, for someone that played that goddamn well and made that kind of impact, I just, I just wouldn't say. Was she playing against 18-year-old or grown women that had kids and playing for mortgages?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Is there a difference between college and pro in the NFL? Yes or no? Is there a difference between college and NFL? Oh, hell yeah. You know that. Okay, then. You know that. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:26:42 What did Jamar Chase do when he was in college? And what did he do in the NFL his first year? Look at Justin Jeffries. What did Justin Jeffries do? Hey, did you see the preseason game? How many Jamar Chase dropped? Ten passes in his first three preseason games, didn't he? So there was an adjustment period.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yes, you remember that? Yeah, you remember it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Glenn. There was an adjustment period. I got to get my head around quicker. I got to get in and out of breaks. I got to locate the ball quicker. It happens, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Yeah. If players that played the game, if we can't critique players that's coming into the game, who can? I mean, you're right. That's a tough critique right there're right. That's a tough critique right there, boy. That's a very, very tough critique.
Starting point is 00:27:30 You don't think there's levels? Even in the NFL, there's levels in the NFL. You know I know it's levels, but I'm just saying, I'm giving you small examples of players that came from college in the transition when it was time when the bullets was flying for real, they showed up
Starting point is 00:27:45 and they showed out and I just I see Caitlin Clark as one of those ones that's going to transition just fine based on her skill set and what she's able to do especially being able to shoot the ball and create her and create her own shot off the dribble I do think she'll have some success because she led the nation in scoring led the the nation in assists. And I remember having a conversation about Trey Young. And I said, Trey Young will be able to transition even though he's small. He might not score, but he'll get you 15 assists in a night. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And so maybe we can't look at Kaitlyn Clark says, well, if she doesn't score 30, she's not having success. Hers might be, it might be 15 and 10. It might be 14 and eight. And that's the, but I believe she might be 15 and 10. It might be 14 and 8. And that's the, but I believe she'll be able to transition. Now, you go, she ain't finna go, go 30 and 8. She ain't finna drop 32 and 8 like she did a senior in college.
Starting point is 00:28:36 That ain't happening. Well, the fact, the fact that she has a better supporting cast around her, she won't have to do that. And she will be able to facilitate like she does, like she did at Iowa. She'll be able to facilitate like she does, like she did at Iowa. She'd be able to facilitate with a better supporting cast. So when I think about it, I think to me, well, if I got better players around me, then all I have to do is just
Starting point is 00:28:54 be efficient, facilitate, and take the shots when they're there. That's it. I mean, it sounds easy with me saying it, but it's different when it's game time. I mean, it sounds easy with me saying, just sitting here saying it, but it's different, it's different, you know, when it's game time.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Right. But I'm, I mean, listen, I'm excited to see, I'm excited to see her. I'm excited to see Sister Angel Reese as well. Every, Miss, Miss Buckers, Miss Paige is coming out too.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Miss Paige. She's coming back. Oh, she coming back? Yeah. Well, shit, they gonna, they gonna repeat again. Carolina, Carolina, just losing Cardozo. I mean, Carolina, they gonna repeat again. Carolina,
Starting point is 00:29:26 Carolina just losing Cardoso. I mean, Carolina, you're right, Miss Payne's got knocked out. Damn, hey, I'm excited. I done started watching basketball now. Now I got the itch. I'm finna really get into it so I can really understand the game.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And here's the thing, Ocho, if I know you can shoot, I ain't finna let you get no open shots. I'm fighting over those screens. And here's the thing, Ocho. If I know you can shoot, I ain't going to let you get no open shots. I'm fighting over those screens. You see what South Carolina did? South Carolina said, we're not going to be lazy. We're not going under any screens. Trying to go up.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I'm going, we're fighting over the top. Right. And I'm going to push you to your right because I know you want to go left to shoot. And what you normally do when you go right, you're looking to go all the way to the basket. So if I know that and I'm just watching her casually, what do you think the scouting department is doing? So I do. I think she's going to be able to succeed in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Sure. Right. Sure. Because I think she's a phenomenal talent. But I think there's going to be a learning curve. And I think all players go through it. Right. Jordan, Jordan didn't have that mid-range game i mean he was just flying through the air yeah he developed that okay okay okay okay yeah colby developed that shot in order to expand and open up his game lebron developed the three ball because he knew there was going to be a time that he wasn't going to be able to jump over everybody and he could still get downhill occasionally. He can't get downhill with the same veracity, drive after drive after drive like he once could.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So he developed that three ball. He also, with Hakeem Olajuwon, worked on his footwork. He turned that turnaround. So you just have to keep expanding your game. And that's what the greats can do. And I believe she is a great she was a great college player and I think she'll put the time in to work on her
Starting point is 00:31:10 game to expand it because they know what she likes to do right now man look here man Ocho just want to run these speed aisles he gonna hit seven steps and he gonna fall off the table so now Ocho got okay I gotta go I gotta dig into my bag I gotta hitting him seven steps and he gonna break, he gonna fall off the table. So now Ocho got, okay,
Starting point is 00:31:25 I gotta go, I gotta dig into my bag. I gotta set him up. Okay, that's what you think I'm gonna run down, what you think I'm gonna fall off the table and run that out? Now I'm gonna hit you
Starting point is 00:31:33 with this bang A with the same steps. Yeah, yeah. When you go, when I do this right here, that nod, you go to the out, you drive the out.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I'm coming back the other way. The bang. Yeah. Listen, the more to it, especially when you think about a player like that who's had so much pressure, had so many eyes watching her, you already know she has the want to
Starting point is 00:31:54 and the will with all to want to improve her game. So I'm sure she's going to add some more tools to her box because the more tools that she adds to her toolbox. The absolute truth. The more she will be able to do and the more impact she'll be able to do and the more impact she'll be able to have. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:07 And I think the thing is, Ocho, because she'll be playing with better talent, she won't have the workload that she had in college. And I said Carolina wore down because think about it. They didn't have anybody else
Starting point is 00:32:20 that was going to be able to take you off the dribble. Everybody else, everything was contingent on her. Kaitlyn, you got to score. Kaitlyn, you got to set me up. So we got to run picks and we got to try to backdoor somebody. I got to try to get the ball to Kaitlyn.
Starting point is 00:32:34 She's got to look ahead, get the ball up. And so you see they started wearing her down because Raven Johnson, she just got so tired, Raven Johnson just started picking her pockets. Yeah. In broad daylight, police, everybody watching. Gone, laying the ball up. Because she got tired.
Starting point is 00:32:51 That's a heavy workload. And you see Zach Eady, he wore down too. The man that played, he had been out of an elite, from the elite eight, he had missed only eight seconds. That's a lot to ask a man that size to get up and down the court continuously.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And you see he started leaving shots short. But I do think Kaitlyn Clark, and I don't think Diana Taurasi was hating on Do y'all realize that Diana Taurasi is a three-time champ in college.
Starting point is 00:33:23 A player of the year. A most outstanding player. She's a three-time W in college. A player of the year. A most outstanding player. She's a three-time WNBA. She's a WNBA all-time leading scorer. And if I'm not mistaken, does she have five gold medals? Does she have five or four? I think her and Sue Bird got like four or five. Two thousand four
Starting point is 00:33:40 to eight, twelve, sixteen. She got four. I think she got four. Four or five. She got a bunch. She got five gold medals. So you're telling me somebody that has five gold medals, she's a three-time champ in college, a most outstanding player. She's a player of the year.
Starting point is 00:33:59 She has three championships in the WNBA. She's a finals MVP. She's a WNBA MVP. And she's the all-time leading scorer. And she's jealous of what? Many can say, I mean, she's on the very short list when they say GOATs of women's college basketball. Her, Cheryl Miller, Stewie, Candace Parker, Maya Moore.
Starting point is 00:34:26 She's on a very, very short list. Yeah. I mean, it's tough. It's tough. It is tough. Just normally, especially one with the accolades that she has, I would have, me personally, I would have taken a different approach and uplifting that young lady before she even came to the WNBA.
Starting point is 00:34:46 But to each his own. It's okay to critique because you have the resume to do so. So I understand it. Some people will look at it as hating. I mean, I don't see it as hating. It's the same thing. When people say, I don't believe Tim Tebow's game is going to translate to the NFL. People say they were hating. I'm looking at the way he throws, his mechanics. So... You mean, man, you mean. No, but I'm just
Starting point is 00:35:14 saying, Ocho, you can't listen. You can't run power and you can't run traps with your quarterbacks all game long. At some point in time, I'm going to force you to throw the ball in order to beat me yeah you can't hide them all game no it's the one game it's the one position you can't hide yeah i can hide corners i'll play cover to give him help over the top i can slide i
Starting point is 00:35:39 can if i got a weak offensive lineman i can slide protection or I can put the back in the gap to chip. How do you hide your quarterback? You can't. He's going to get exposed at some point, especially if he can't throw. Yeah. And think about it. Many people say Tim Tebow's on the short list. He might be one of the greatest college quarterbacks to ever play the game.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Some people say he's the greatest. Some people say there's an argument to be had. But in the NFL, his game didn't translate because he had that elongated throwing motion for such a long time. And see, you'll always revert back to what you feel comfortable doing. So when he was out there with Tom House and he's in shorts and T-shirt,
Starting point is 00:36:25 he's letting it rip. But when he got in a stressful situation, what would he do? Go back to the wind up. Yeah. See? Yeah. And that's the thing. And so it's not hate.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'm just off. And people are like, well, you hate. You hating on Lamar. I'm like, bro, I came in as a seventh-round draft pick. I left with a gold jacket. I'm happy. I want to see him win because I think he has an opportunity with a championship. Now
Starting point is 00:36:55 we have to start talking to the man. We got to start putting Lamar up in that top 10. Ain't a whole lot of quarterbacks that got multiple MVPs regular season and a Super Bowl. That's why we put my homes up so quick that's why he wrote like bro you do realize dude 27 he got two super bowl two super bowl mbps and two five thousand yard passing seasons yeah well we got to zoom him past a lot of guys now he got the third now you can make a case. You can say, you know what, man? If him and Joe were who you put in second place,
Starting point is 00:37:27 some people might say Joe because Joe has four Super Bowls, four Super Bowl and three MVPs. Mahomes has three Super Bowl MVPs. I think Joe, what Joe have? Three regular season MVPs or two? I think Joe had two. I think Brett got three rogers got four and payton got five does joe have three
Starting point is 00:37:49 two yeah so you he got three subo mbps but two regular season so you can make a case right now patrick mahomes at 28 years of age is the second greatest quarterback to ever play. Now, who would you put one? Who would you say is one? Brady. Brady, of course. Yes. I'm just making a show.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I'm just making a show. Sometimes, sometimes people, you know. No, no, no, no, no. I ain't that foolish. Now, come on. OK. OK. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:38:19 But and so that's that's the thing. Oh, Joe. I mean, you know, you look at a guy and you say, OK, well, how well is this game will translate? Is he going to be able to make the necessary adjustments to be able to pull himself up out of that? I like that. So look at how look at what Tebow look like in college. And you had a great understanding that it might not be able to transition in the NFL because of the elongated throwing motion. But when you look at Caitlin Clark, what do you look at in her game that says, okay, you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:47 Maybe it's not going to translate when she gets to the next level. I don't think she was saying her game isn't going to translate. I think DT was saying it's going to take some time for her to get her footing and to have a level of success
Starting point is 00:39:03 that we think that the fans think that she should enjoy. Ain't nobody thinking she's coming to the WNBA at average 30. If you look at Dana Taurasi, she has 14 total. She has 10 first team WNBA selections,
Starting point is 00:39:20 four second teams, and an MVP in 16 seasons. She was a real deal, boy. Yeah, I think she okay. She was a real deal. So if anybody wants to say anything about Ms. Clark or anybody else that's coming in, she's very qualified to do so.
Starting point is 00:39:38 She's very, excuse me, she's very, very qualified. DT has one MVP. Lisa Leslie has three. Candace Parker has two. Lauren Jackson, the greats. I think Seattle Rain. What's their... The Australian. She had three MVPs. Kaylin Clark goes...
Starting point is 00:40:01 She had four. Sibu Yacouba had four regular season MVPs? Wow. Wow. Yeah. She was the first. she had four four regular season MVPs wow yeah she was the first oh was bad and it wasn't the first four in WNBA
Starting point is 00:40:16 but they were loaded they had her, Cheryl Swoop Tina Thompson they were loaded yeah they were loaded. So, go ahead. What'd you say, Ash? Finals MVP. I don't think she
Starting point is 00:40:34 too... Yeah. Yes. All right, Ocho. Don, they call her Louis Vuitton Don. Yeah. Staley is the most stylish basketball coach we've ever seen. Staley is one of the greatest college basketball coaches
Starting point is 00:40:48 of all time. She just coached the Lady Gamecocks to a national championship, her third since arriving. She took over the head coaching duties in 2008.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And the win means the Lady Gamecocks ended the season perfect and became only the 10th team in Division I history to end with a perfect season. Is that men and women? Because I thought UCLA had a couple of them.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I know Indiana was the last one in 76. I think it's women. I think it's just women. If I'm not mistaken, I think what you call them was the first team to go undefeated, Texas in 86. Great Clarissa Davis team.
Starting point is 00:41:26 But, you know, you kind of had like four of them. Tennessee's had a few. I think the Kim Mulkey's Baylor Bears, they went 40 and 0 one year. Yeah, just women. Yeah. Yeah. Because UCLA had acla went like 88 one i think kareem lost two kareem lose one or two games in college i think because elvin hayes
Starting point is 00:41:54 them beat him at the at the astrodome one year when kareem had a toothache and then they waxed in the uh national championship kareem went 88-2 in his three years in college. That's why people, I mean, he lost one, I think he lost one game in college. I mean, high school at Power in New York. He lost two games in college. And then you know what he did in the NBA. So for the South Carolina Sweet 16 matchup against
Starting point is 00:42:26 Indiana, she donned a $3,150 blue LV jacket colored with Pharrell demoflage print ahead of her squad's final four game against NC State. Louis Vuitton, Don Kane, Correggia, the trench coat, LV23, Yoshi Kusama.
Starting point is 00:42:43 You know, I'll say you don't know about Kusama. Yeah, you're right. I don't know about saying? You don't know about Kusama. Yeah, you're right. I don't know about it because I don't know. I don't weigh anything over $1,000. You know what's going to happen? If it hasn't happened already, if it hasn't happened already, I mean, coaches don't get NIL deals, but maybe she can be the first coach sponsored by Louis Vuitton and wear it and have it given to her each game.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Now, what we might not know is they might already be giving it to her and she's really not paying. And she might be a muse for Louis Vuitton as the first head coach on the sideline donning Louis Vuitton.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yeah. Staley coached the Lady Game cards to the victory in a cropped monogram denim jacket, a logo tee to the victory in a crop monogram denim jacket LV logo T and a pair of brand monogram denim tie-mock sneakers
Starting point is 00:43:29 LV hook us up hook LV hook up on Dickies Dickies if y'all watching
Starting point is 00:43:39 Dickies holla at me man holla at me is she the most stylish coach the most stylish coach of all time? Of all time? I think she's up there.
Starting point is 00:43:49 She's up there. What about Pat Riley? Listen, Pat Riley, Mr. Patino. Is Patino the one he looks like? Rick Patino, yeah. Rick Patino looks like he's supposed to be in Goodfellas. He's also one of them. Miss Mokey.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Miss Mokey is very... Man, stop it! You don't like her fashion? Her expression of fashion? That's art. You like all them colors? You like Crayola? You talking about...
Starting point is 00:44:15 I'm from Miami. Yeah, you're right. You know how we dress. Yeah, y'all like them bright-ass colors. We love them bright. Especially when you're dark-skinned and you got on that neon and that pink
Starting point is 00:44:26 and pastel colors. In the summer, that linen, the linen, the green, the pink linen. Oh, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Like, it's different. It's different because, you know, fashion is expression through your eye on how you see it. So, I mean, I like it. It's different.
Starting point is 00:44:41 As opposed to everybody else's society. You see one shirt, you go, you walk out somewhere and 50 other people got that motherfucker. Yeah, God. What is wrong with me? Three times already.
Starting point is 00:44:52 50 other people have the exact same shirt on. I apologize. Oh, man, I'm sorry. Well, that's, now I see why Don don't be getting upset. Don say, I ain't finna sweat my LV. Y'all must be out your mind. Y'all better figure that out.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Are you talking about not calling no time out? Hell nah. You don't be up there yelling and screaming with sweat, taking a jacket off. Man, Don said, man, I ain't finna mess up this. Man, this outfit cost me five, man. Y'all better, girl, y'all better figure that out. She get them girls that look.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Ain't calling no time out, man. Y'all all right now. That thing Don was hype yesterday. Y'all all right now. Man, Dobby Dobby hit that thing. Don was hype yesterday. It was so, it was so good to see because I think she knows she squandered a great opportunity last year.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Right. Had a team that was undefeated until they faced a Yukon. But she didn't have the shooters last year that she had this year. Right. Chelsea Johnson and pow pow. And they dominated the boards again with a Cardoso with Watkins and Elena kits. So they were definitely a more complete team this year than what they were
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Starting point is 00:46:53 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, the Cowboys might be heading for a potential holdout by CeeDee Lamb the Cowboys will start their spring workouts April 15th and
Starting point is 00:47:11 barter contract extension excuse me CeeDee Lamb won't take the field the Dallas Cowboys are staring down the barrel of three potential market setting extensions Michael Parsons CeeDee Lamb, Dak Prescott. Beyond pinch and pennies. Now remember,
Starting point is 00:47:28 remember, Jerry said he going all-in. And what he meant by all-in was all-in on the guys that he ain't got. First he was going all-in and then he was like, nah, nah, Stephen said, clarify, we go all-in on our guys. Okay. So, Dak
Starting point is 00:47:44 Prescott has grown accustomed to the football field without C.D. Lamb on it of his 590 paths he threw uh last season 590 94 attempts 90 almost 95 percent came with C.D. running the route they connected 133 times to own in 2023 fourth most completion between a duo in NFL history. So you look at the numbers, right? You look at the chemistry between Dak Prescott and CeeDee Lamb. You understand how vital and important CeeDee Lamb is to the offense, especially for Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 00:48:16 So as the owner, as Jerry Jones, as Stephan Jones, you understand you want to work the numbers. You want to do right by CeeDee by any means. You understand you want to work the numbers. You want to do right by CD by any means. But what I don't understand is you knew at some point it was going to come to this. I never understood, even with the offseason program coming up, you want your players at your offseason program.
Starting point is 00:48:41 You want your players happy at your offseason program. Obviously, missing time. CD, he knows the routine. He knows the offense. But still, you just want to get those extra reps with your quarterback, with your offense, the camaraderie, the chemistry between everybody and have everybody showing up to the offseason program. But again, here we are.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Now we got a stalemate. We got a stalemate. Every time it's time for somebody to get paid especially the skill position especially the skill position we got to fight tooth and nail we got to crawl we got to come in late
Starting point is 00:49:15 we got to act like we can't show up remember Emmitt had to hold out I don't know if you remember but Emmitt missed the first two games Ezekiel Elliott had to hold out what was Ezekiel's at Ezek two games. Ezekiel Elliott had the whole out. What was Ezekiel at? Ezekiel was somewhere. Cabo. Yeah, Ezekiel and Cabo chilling.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Why? Why? I'm not sure why. I think for some reason, I think owners do it on purpose. I think they do it on purpose. Ocho, it's a blessing and a curse because the Cowboys do do a very good job of drafting. But when you draft good players and they perform, you have to pay them or you're going to lose them.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Yeah. You drafted Michael Parsons. He's been what you expected when you drafted. And some. So guess what? He's going to command a premium. C.D. Lamb has shown himself to be a top receiver. You're going to have to pay him.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Now, Trayvon Diggs did you a solid. He went to the table. He negotiated a deal that he felt was fair with him. He got the money and he's like, look, see what happened? And I got my money. Boom. I got this knee injury. They weren't going to pay me what they paid me. You know, blah, blah. I get it.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Got no problem with it. But CD like, nah, bro. Y'all need to break bread. I ain't going to year nah bro y'all need to break bread I ain't going to year five y'all need to go and do right by me that ain't gonna happen you know what they're gonna do it
Starting point is 00:50:31 they're gonna do it they're gonna pay him but it's gonna be at the last minute probably right before training camp getting ready to start an hour before training camp starts then they're gonna go across the ticker CD Lamb
Starting point is 00:50:42 it just got paid I think they do it on for some reason I think they do it on, for some reason, I think they do it on purpose. I mean, as an owner, the numbers are the numbers. The numbers are the numbers. Seriously, I'm going to show up.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Just get everybody in there. Seriously, I'm going to show up an hour before practice. You want to wait an hour before, you want to wait an hour before training camp, but I'm going to wait an hour before practice.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Man, I don't know why they do it. And they do it consistently. Not just the Cowboys. Every good receiver has to wait. They have to wait. I don't know why they do it. Yeah. Because the thing, look, pay the man.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I mean, look, really, quarterback is really the only position that you get paid on potential. Because why would you give Daniel Jones $40 million? Well, obviously, you don't have a choice. This is another thing. This is very important. Timing in the NFL, depending on the player, is everything. The timing for Daniel Jones was perfect.
Starting point is 00:51:40 There was no other option. So you really had no choice. You didn't have to do anything. You had a fifth-year option you could have picked up. you didn't have to do anything you had a fifth year option you could have picked up you didn't have to do it so you see see they didn't even got you convinced they had they had to do something it's the same thing with the broncos the broncos didn't have to do decide to get russ an extension he has two years still left on his deal right so what you mean they didn't have no choice they they they wanted to take they wanted to take care of russ and understanding and what what he what he had done in the past and hoping that it can continue in the future with them.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Why don't we do that for other positions? Well, listen, that quarterback, you don't know what you don't know what he's going to do. You know, you know, that tells you that tells you how important the quarterback position is. Oh, we know why. That's why they take care of them and hopes that okay we're paying you this it hopes we want you happy we want you we want you happy and we want you at your best and let's hope with us paying you you're able to fulfill what we hope we what we think you can do yeah but here's the thing though ojo if you look at it uh uh If you look at it, uh,
Starting point is 00:52:47 when I lost my train of thought, what I wanted to say, but if you look at, if you look at the players and you base it on, so what are we doing? Are you paying him for what you believe he had done? Are you, are you rewarding him for what he's done?
Starting point is 00:52:58 Well, yeah, I think when it comes to quarterbacks, I think they're rewarding him for what you think he's going to do. So you look at Daniel Jones. Why did they pay Daniel Jones? Think about it. That's what I'm asking you. I just told you.
Starting point is 00:53:12 We're rewarding you in hopes you're going to do what we think you're capable of doing based on what we've seen so far. So you disregard. Potential. Potential. Potential means you haven't done anything yet. So in other words, you're going to disregard, you're going to disregard the three years you saw. So the three years, that don't mean nothing, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I take the one year. You see what they do, how they do it, Ocho? Yeah. That they take one year. Now, Saquon Barkley had proven, boom. Now, you know what? We're going to put a tag on you. We want to see it one more time. But Daniel Jones, we've seen enough. proven. Boom. Nah, you know what? We're going to put a tag on you. We want to see it one more time.
Starting point is 00:53:46 But Daniel Jones, we've seen enough. Yeah. The quarterback position. Again, the best offensive weapon for the New York Giants was Saquon Barkley. Ray Charles can see that. But again, the way the game
Starting point is 00:54:02 has evolved, nobody values the running back position. Think about what they've done. No position has ever been, has, is protected more than the quarterback. They think so little of the running back. They say, now you can't even lower your helmet. You can't lower your head to run somebody over, Ocho. Somebody going to get hurt now.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Somebody, somebody going to get hurt. It's only one way. It's only one way to run the ball. Run behind your pants. Nah, we don't want you to run behind your pants. We want you to run through the hole like this here. Yeah, straight up. Like you are. Not Ricky Waters.
Starting point is 00:54:36 What's his name? Roger Craig. Roger Craig ran with the high knees. He also ran straight up. Yeah. Yeah, you sure was. Ocho, check this out. He also ran straight up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You sure was. Oh, check this out.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Since 1990, 59 quarterbacks have been selected in the top 10 since 1990. 1990 was the year that I came out. Only four quarterbacks. Damn. Whoa. I am. Damn.
Starting point is 00:55:02 You, you, you gonna realize that you get to a certain age. That's the only purpose of life at this point in time to get old I tell you what I bet you take getting old versus the alternative
Starting point is 00:55:14 what's up not yet not yet only four quarterbacks have been named first team all pro of the 59 quarterbacks selected in the top 10 peyton manning matt ryan cam newton patrick mahomes 59 so we've got 35 years of data and of the 59 quarterbacks that's been selected in the top 10, only four. Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan once.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Cam Newton once. Peyton Manning. I think Peyton Manning was seven times first-team All-Pro. Patrick Holmes twice. Now you see why they put such a huge importance on the quarterback position? Yeah. Because once you get one, once you get one... Andrew here shaking her head.
Starting point is 00:56:07 She upset at me. About what happened? Because I said Peyton Manning, I think Peyton has been selected first team All-Pro seven times. And she looked over here real dejected. It's been about seven though, hasn't it? It's seven.
Starting point is 00:56:21 It's seven. It's seven. I mean seven. It's seven. I mean, think about it, Ocho. The man has almost damaged as many MVPs that he's been first-team all-pro. But Peyton, man, Peyton was nice. Peyton was that dude, man. We talk about a student of the game.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah. He a good dude. I mean, he just a good dude. I mean, look, he just a good dude. I mean, just good to talk to about anything talk about football he talk about life he he loved to have I mean I went to like I said my my last Pro Bowl
Starting point is 00:56:52 I went to and in 01 after the 01 season he was the quarterback I think he Brady he Brady and maybe McNair might have been my quarterbacks. Well, I was just over there.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I don't know. I wouldn't say they were my quarterback because I was terrible. Damn, man and boy, goddamn. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I had some quarterbacks. I had some quarterbacks by the time. Marino, Elway, Kelly, Warren Moon, Joe Montana, Brady, Manny, McNair. I read the gauntlet. I read the gauntlet, don't you?
Starting point is 00:57:33 I read the gauntlet. I did. Yeah, it's hard. I had, well, I'm trying to think. Well, you had Brady and Manny, didn't you? But Brady probably didn't come when you was there because Brady stopped coming because I don't think Brady came more than twice. Brady and Manning, didn't you? But Brady probably didn't come when you were there because Brady stopped coming. I don't think Brady came more than twice.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I know he came that one year. Yeah. I'm not sure. I know Peyton was there. I know Steve McNair. I had Steve. Roethlisberger. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I had Carson. I'm trying to think who else. With Culpepper. No, Culpepper was NSC. No. NSC. Man, that's a good one. Now you jogging my memory.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I can't even remember some of the quarterbacks. Yeah, but your list can't touch mine, though. My list. Yeah, listen. You played an era. You played an era with them boys. That's about it. Them boys. My list. Yeah, listen, you played in the era you played in the era with them boys.
Starting point is 00:58:26 That's about them boys. Real deal. Yeah, I mean hold on, let's see. Elway Well, you got all the famous too. Montana Manning Brady That's five. Oh, Warren Moon
Starting point is 00:58:41 Jim Kelly, seven Hall of Famers, McNair. We had some dogs over there. And back then, they knocked the hell out of you at the Pro Bowl. Especially the fourth quarter. Man, they tried to go hard for that 10 grand. But when that money time come in the fourth quarter, and Ray Lewis pacing up and down the sideline saying,
Starting point is 00:59:04 all right now, time's time to go. Time to play. We won them little 10 measly thousand dollars. Man, you done paid for coaches and they wives to come over. You about to brought some family. Man, please. Man, them little 10 thousand was going to go a long
Starting point is 00:59:20 way. Yeah, I needed all that. I needed all that. I needed all that. I needed all that. I needed all that. I think now, I think now they was making like maybe 50,000, 80,000. Back then, the losers got 5,000 on show.
Starting point is 00:59:33 The losers got 5,000. Winners got 10,000. I think during my time, we might have been at maybe 30-something. I might be wrong. I can't remember. Might have been maybe
Starting point is 00:59:41 30-something for the winner. But now, what do you think they're making now at Pro Bowl? Well, now it's flag football. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, because now they got flag and they got, like, skills competition and stuff like that. So, I don't know. But the numbers never go down, though. So, the numbers are still the same.
Starting point is 01:00:00 They just don't have to do as much. Yeah, right. They don't have a game. But you guys get a Pro Bowl nod Anthony I'm so glad you said that think of the Pro Bowl the format. This is the format I think they should do this year now. I'm not sure if you could run if you could run right now I think they should have the current NFC and AFC rosters that make the Pro Bowl and have them play against the old-timers. Not that old, but I'm just saying the ones that are still capable. Listen, stay with me now.
Starting point is 01:00:33 The ones that are still capable of moving a little bit just to make it competitive and fun. Even if it's flag football, I think it would be dope. Think about the concept. All you will have is a bunch of torn Achilles, ACLs, and quad muscles. Man, ain't nobody moving like that. Don't nobody move like that on Joe. I know what you mean.
Starting point is 01:00:51 But they didn't took it down to flag football. I'm just saying, just think about the concept on how fun it would be if the former players knew, like, listen, we got six months to get ourselves together, and whoever makes the Pro Bowl we get to be back out there again I think it would just be fun to have some of the
Starting point is 01:01:09 some of the players from back in the day facing some of the younger generation in today's game just lined up I mean we ain't trying to kill each other just out there having a little fun
Starting point is 01:01:18 y'all go out have fun y'all let me know how that work out for y'all I just think it would be fun I coach okay you coach well I'm a player I'm going full speed. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Well, y'all take off. Anthony Richardson is on a mission this year after missing most of his rookie season due to injuries. AR rookie season with the Colts did not go as he planned, playing just four games due to injury before being shut down to have season-ending shoulder
Starting point is 01:01:42 surgery. He underwent the procedure in October and began throwing in February. Since his first throw post-surgery, last season, last year's number four overall pick has made significant progress and ready for his comeback. I've never waited this long to get back to playing football. I'm just on a
Starting point is 01:01:57 mission this year. Once that mission is complete, then I'll be good. What do you expect from AR? I like him. I can't wait to see him you expect from AR? I like him. I can't wait to see him. I can't wait to see him. Obviously, there was a very small sample size of what he did at Florida.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Still went high for a reason. Potential. Obviously, what he can do. Great arm. Very, very, very good arm. Obviously, he's a dual threat. He can run with the ball as well. Obviously, running with the ball is what got him hurt, messed up he's a dual threat. He can run with the ball as well. Obviously, running with
Starting point is 01:02:25 the ball is what got him hurt, messed up that shoulder a little bit. But I think the sky's the limit for him. The sky's the limit for him. I'm excited that he is coming back because he is going to be one of the ones that gets those Colts to that next level, that next step in being in contention every year. Similar to how Peytonton Manning I'm not calling him Peyton Manning I'm not saying that I'm saying he can have that Lamar Jackson type of effect in Indianapolis and I'm not calling him Lamar Jackson either I'm just saying he is that dynamic whether it's throwing or whether it's whether whether it's having to use his legs he is that good so I'm excited to see him back and it's going to be exciting especially for Colts fans yeah I mean
Starting point is 01:03:04 you know and now you put him in that mix when you get C.J. Stroud, and now you got Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville. Yeah. The question is, do they stand pat in Tennessee with Will Levis? But you know you got three guys with C.J. with high draft picks. First overall, C.J. Stroud was second overall. Anthony Richardson was fourth overall, and they're fairly young. So
Starting point is 01:03:27 that's an opportunity for this division to be good for a very, very long time. If the quarterback play stays at what we think, what we projected to be to get better, CJ even improved from his rookie year and his sophomore season from his rookie season. We know what Trevor Lawrence, but he's
Starting point is 01:03:44 just got to get over that hump. Too many mistakes. I mean, for them to have the record to start the season and then to miss the playoffs in its entirety, that's just totally unacceptable. But I'm excited to see Anthony Richardson come back out and kind of pick up where he left off last year, throwing and running the football.
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