Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Udonis Haslem CLAPS BACK at Draymond Green + Sterling Sharpe JOINS and CONFIRMS CHILDHOOD STORIES

Episode Date: July 13, 2026

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We got one half of the first brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame joining us. That's my brother, Sterling Sharp. He joins us in about 30 minutes, but first, we've got to, hey, Joe, I don't know if we're going to be able to control of the night. Because, as a matter of fact, let's just take a look at the video. Oh, Joe, slips, finishes, four, puts, first. his second fantastic football team selene and back in it five four trailing by one

Chad ocho Cinco with the finish what a quick touch from right foot to left foot left foot finish this man has been spending a lot of time under soccer football field recently and you can see it's paying off he doesn't even celebrate I don't even know what's going on Hey, hey, they need to get rid of that damn goalie. Ain't he bad, Joe? There's no way in hell. Man, that goal ain't worth two dead flies. Come on, man.

He dropped out right there. The man goes to the far post. He dropped out there near post. Man, just come on, man. It's sprawled out. Hold on, hold on, hon. And you know, this is only one place the ball could go. The goalie's covering the, he's covering the near post.

So I know, you know, when I go from right foot, the left foot, the only place I can put it is far post. and it hit the post and went right in. I mean, hey, listen, I didn't celebrate because it's what I do. I'm used to scoring goal. That's why I get turned around and just, you know, hey, calm me, call me. I mean, I'm used to. I like the little right to left, though.

I ain't going to lie. Hey, Joe, you know, I kick, I'm right footed, Joe. Yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, I'm right. You slew foot it. You said that feet turned out like a dog, Joe, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's why I'm able to stop on a dime like that. It is.

My feet go like that. Yeah. Yeah, Joe, I'm just showing you, my, my foot. first goal was with a right foot. I came back and gave him on my left foot just a little, just to let him know. You should have got the hat trick, Ocho. I mean, I mean, what they find the goal in?

They found them at Costco, uh, Home Depot something? Hey, Joe, it wouldn't have matter. It wouldn't matter who was in goalie. It wouldn't matter who was in gold, Joe. Oh, so they could have Virginia and goalie. You got him up. Hey, I'm getting one right by him, huh? I'm getting one right by him.

Hey, hey, I know a Home Depot goalie when I see one here. They drove. Hey, we need one. You know, they jump right in the truck, man. Hey, you got that man at the heart, at the heart went out. Hey, we need you for about two hours. He clocked out. Yeah.

We're not there. Hey, got about six gold put on his head and went right back to work. It's what I do at any level, at any level. Okay, all right. Okay. No, you look good. You look good, don't you? I gave you that.

Finally, finally, you did something that we could, that we can show it. We can be proud of. But see, you got to understand. Like, I'm, I keep telling people, they think I'd be bulljab and Uncle Joe. Like, I'm a better soccer player than I was an NFL receiver because I put the time in. The only problem is I don't have a platform to show how good I've got that soccer until moments like this comes. Speed and YouTube had a content creator, you know, soccer game. So now, look, all the work I've been putting in, now I get the show.

Hey, that's what's up, right? When you play football, you play it against other professionals. Right. These are not professionals. So if you're on a real soccer field, a little lit, huh? What you want me to do? That's what I'm saying, though. You say, I'm 48.

I can't play against professionals. No, I'm saying even in your prime, if they put you on a real field against the real guys, because you said when they gave the play. Yeah, see, I wouldn't look the same. You got to think, you got to think, how long I've been retired? How many years it's been?

Probably about, shit, probably about 13. 14 for sure. You have to understand. Since I retired, I literally been trying to get better at playing soccer. So I've been, oh yeah, yeah, for sure. And I'm going to get better. Hey, and I, Joe, and I still got a long way to go. What you, hey, what you'd be doing? You're doing your little ladder drills and all that. You keep in right. More, I train. I train with, um, a friend of mine. His name is Andy Herron. They trained down and, uh, right by my house about two blocks away at, at, let's talk about Somingo Park. Yeah, it is called Somingo Park.

I do it every morning, huh? Every morning, trying to get comfortable and make the ball in my feet become one. You might need to go get Ronaldinho trainer, because ain't nobody been able to have a ball like Ronaldino. Listen, in order for me to look like Ronaldinho, I would have to

be reborn in Brazil. I just started like three. In the favelas, as a little kid and playing barefoot, I'd never look like that. Yeah. Yeah. Ain't nobody ain't nobody ever looked like that but him. And he was doing that on the game. You know, I see, you know, they show videos of him just bulljiving around

and him turning flips. He got the ball tucked in his thing and he's kicking it. He's doing what in that, in that video. He's doing that in an actual soccer game. Yeah. He would take the ball kick it, then kick it over the guy's head and then punch it. I'm like, yeah. Y'all let this man do y'all like that?

There's very few people that can pull those tricks off in the middle of the game because you don't want to mess up. Oh, yeah. for sure. You don't want to mess up. He kicking him with his heel in the net? Hey, hey,

what's there, like a celebrity game you played in? Yeah, Speed, speed had a content creator game on YouTube. Oh, man, that's all right,

bro. I like to, I like to see y'all coming together, bro, and you know, you getting some highlights. I like to see you doing your one, too,

you know what I mean? You do make you make a, hey, hey, like I said, Joe, he finally made us look good because basketball,

we used to let people's question. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Wait till you see the big three celebrity tournament this time. Hey, hey, hey, hey, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I need to make sure you course I have because mind you, I ain't stopped playing.

I've been, I've been practicing basketball too. So I'm put on a mean demonstration. Oh, okay, okay. Listen, I don't care about no sidebest this year. Okay, okay. I'm going to, I'm getting to the buckets. Okay, that's why I was just going to say, because see, me and Uncle, don't want you coming back on her cop and no plea.

I don't mean, they had sidebed. I don't want to hear that shit. I don't want to hear that. I want you to come on here. You know what I mean? We'd be able to, you know, glowed a little bit. You know what I mean? You see my boy, Ocho, out there?

I need you to do me a favor. I need to make sure you cross side, right? And I'm going to do your move. And when I do your move and I make the shot, I'll look at you. And I'm a point. Hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm sorry, but just the one and only. If you meet another, he's a phone. Oh, Joe.

You gave me down. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, Joe, so you're going to do the end and out, yeah, in between, behind the back. I'm going to do dribble, dribble to the right, to the right twice, I mean, twice to get him going. Yeah.

Come back with the left, then step back and hit him middy. Oh, okay, okay. I know it by hard, Joe. I know that my heart. All right, I want to see this. Oh, yeah. Hey, I'm going to be locked in. When is it?

When is it? I'm going to be locked in because I got to come, I got to come check you out. I don't know. When is the big three of, uh, slayette? Oh, that's the champion. That's right before the champion. championship game. They do the celebrity joint. Yeah. So, okay, then yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. So how many months we got before that? Shit, they've got to get at least another month of basketball left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little probably a little over that. Yeah, yeah, Joe. Hey, you're going to be like, God damn. Yeah, okay. Until I see you represent nightcap, okay?

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I had seen that before, and then he came out, and he, like, that's ridiculous. You get into it with your young guy, can't, but I would never, I can't believe you did that. And it really bothered me because I was like, damn, man, like, so this dude ain't never been in. And this dude ain't never been in practice where somebody getting into a fight. He never got into a fight in practice. Maybe not even in Miami the whole time. Maybe they don't have fights in their practices, you know, the heat, what is it, heat culture or heat way. Maybe they don't have fights.

Like, it really threw me for a loop because, you know, I don't really care what most people say. But when I have respect for certain guys, it does matter when you, have respect for God's face. And so when I saw that, I was just like, damn, man, this dude doing what everybody else doing, acting like he. And so when I first saw this, I was like, damn, this is two young guys you Donis Haslam raised. And yeah, they're not on the same team no more, but if you raise this young guy in the light of what you were saying about me, and now he punches this young, other young guy that y'all kind of co-raised, are you going to have that same energy. And the reality is I don't really want to have the same energy because I love

Bam. That's my brother. Love Bam. It's my dog. Wanted a gold medal together. So I actually wouldn't want someone even had that same energy towards Bam. However, I just, I just was wondering like, man, I wonder what you, I wonder what you Donas, how's I'm going to say? And he says something back. Well, here's the thing. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but you D tweeted at Money Green. I see things just don't change. You was on some sucker-ish for years when you swung on Joe and pool and you on some sucker-ish now.

I usually don't engage it, but since you went so far to the left to get my attention, here it is. If you think your big 32-year-old, three or four rings at the time having ass swinging on a 23-year-old Jordan Pool at the same time, then you're even more. delusional than I thought. As you can see right there, he said, look, Bam is 28, Tyler Hero is 26. And he goes on, he says, call it heat culture, whatever you want before I let one player disrespect pro spoke in front of the squad. Cut his legs out, disrupt 15 other guys trying to get a coverage. I'll kick his ass. I owe that to Zoh, the Tim, Glenn, and the rest of the OG. I don't really vibe you and I think you know that unless it's me. in pride talk hoops

I won't mention you at all but you brought basically said you brought it to be so that's what it is what it is. Me personally I don't think look I I see it from both sides of the equation

Joe but I look at it like this and the one mistake that Jordan Poole left Ocho you know if you got tension okay somebody on once into the field and y'all talking man F you Ocho Ninja, F you. You ain't going to do nothing.

All that woman, all that talking. As long as you over there, I'm over here. We good. What I'm not going to let you do, Ocho and Joe, is close the distance, and you still got that hostility. Hello. Yeah. That was Jordan Poole's mistake.

Yeah. First of all, somebody got that hostility. You don't let him walk up on you. You get off the first one. Now, if he's still standing out that, you might have to take off running. But if you get off a clean shot, Yeah. And he's still standing.

You're going to get your ass who'll be anyway. Hey, well, two things you got to have, right? I'm not sure where Jordan Poole grew up. I don't know anything about his background. I don't either. You always have to understand, for one, spatial awareness. Yes. Spatial awareness, you know, and understanding and having self-awareness,

especially when you get into it with somebody. I think maybe Jordan Poole thought, well, we're in a structuring environment, you know, we're at practice. I don't expect anything like that to happen here. But that's what most of the time would. Well, no. It happened. So, I mean, it happened.

What they do that at? Joe, what did they do that at? You argue you don't see pick up. You know all of a sudden if two people, and obviously I'm saying a football field, but in a basketball court. The basketball gym is only, practice gym is only so big.

So you could hear everything he's saying and that man getting closer and closer. And y'all still, the elevation is in both of you guys' voice. Right. Yeah. And you let that man close the distance to be able to get that shot up on you. Yeah, because if you see the video,

Jordan Poole kind of pushed him first, and then that's when they came with the, you know. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, you know, I don't really know, bro. I think in certain situations, certain guys, he wasn't thinking that Dreyman was going. He ain't thinking. Man, this is my damn teammate.

Yeah, we're going to have disagreements. We're going to be pissed at each other. But see, basketball and football are different. Do you have fights in the locker rooms? No, yeah. But I bet you're in football. it's 52, 53, you're on a damn team. It's way more fights in football than it is than basketball,

especially doing teammates. Y'all play a gladiator sport. You know what I mean? It's just a difference. And you know why, Joe? Because as you said, there's so much testosterone and ain't nobody willing to let nobody punk them. Right.

So somebody might be willing to take an ass cutting, just to prove a point, you're not been to punk me. Especially when you start that, when that voice start elevating, You know, though, Joe. We've all not been around. We don't been in a fight. I ain't been in no 15.

I ain't no professional fighter. But I've been in enough fights and I've seen enough situation. I'm like, okay, let me try to defuse this because I already see where this thing is heading. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't nobody backing down and ain't nobody going back down unless somebody try to let cooler head prevail. I'm like, hey, come on back, bro. We don't need this. Nah, hey, I'm gonna see if he really owned what he's talking about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You really got to have somebody to step in and de-escalate the situation. Yes. Because even though we teammates, you know, man, when them emotions get high, boy, you ain't studying all late, you ready to go back y'all. Damn that team, man, I don't know you. I ain't never seen you before, a day of my damn life.

Bang, bang. God, you act reckless. And there are certain key words, all that, hey, suck my, you know what, you'll be, your, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We have one trigger word down in Miami, actually two trigger words down in Miami. If you call anybody this,

it's time to go. I don't care where you're at. Yeah. Your school, graduation. You call somebody a fuck, nigga? Yeah. Man, listen, hey, tell your grandma,

take a church hat off. I'm glad. I'm glad I know your trigger word now. I got you. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, don't, don't play with yourself like that.

Oh, this fuck, nigga. I'm like, oh. But I, and I get with Bam, say, Drayma, you 32, 33 years old.

That's a 20, year old. He ain't expecting that he's not expecting this OG, but you have to get half to, you have to like, okay, we're in the art, the mere fact that we're in an argument lets me know that hold on, this ain't normal. Yeah. Have you seen, have you ever seen Draymond getting the argument with Clay? Have you ever seen him get an argument loon? Have you ever seen him get no argument with Steph? So you got a, hey, you got to like, okay, I got to maneuver this, man. Hold on. Wait a minute. And he getting close and close. But, and, but in, And like you said, Joe, he pushed him.

Man, that man don't walk up on you. Yeah. He don't close the distance. Yeah. No. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's, it's super unfortunate, but I disagree with Dremont because it's a whole total different situation, bro.

Yeah, that man wasn't talking about you. Yeah. I mean, what the story is is the legend is that he was talking about how he was cooking him. Yeah. In practice. Yeah. Tyler Hero allegedly took screens, uh, uh, was saying stuff and somebody took a screenshot of it.

Right, right. That's a whole different. I don't believe Bam would have just got into an argument, nothing. All of a sudden, they stay teammates. And they just get, and all of a sudden,

they get into an argument about something. Ah, I don't see that happening. I don't know people get mad and people say things, you know, sometimes, hey, and a lot of times when people get upset,

they've been dying to tell you that anyway. Yeah. They just did, an opportunity that never presented itself, Joe, for them to tell you how they really felt about you. This was the opportunity to, really tell you how they really feel. And then the other reports came out that says,

you know, Jimmy Butler allegedly distanced himself for ban because they felt banned was untouchable, the heat organization. And I read there are other people in the heat organization. I don't know. I mean, I'd just be reading it. I'm like, oh, whatever, it is what it is.

But I'm just saying, I don't, I don't agree with Dre on this one. I understand what he's, his point he's trying to make. Yeah. But it's, it's, it's, it's, the question is, if, Tyler Hero doesn't say what he says about Bam, does Bam have the reaction that he has?

I don't believe he does. I don't know Bam. All I know is Bam what I see on television. I don't know the man. Nah. It's certain stuff you can keep in house, even if his room was about you, and maybe you even know them to be true.

But when somebody posts something about you, bro, it's different. Hey, when we see each other at, at least we got a rap about it. You feel me? Yes, for sure. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if Bam just felt the way and just stole off on him.

But damn, bro, this is how you been feeling the whole time? Well, that seems to be the consensus that he walked up and, hey, he was really pow. Damn, you didn't even know what's wrong. You need to get wrong guy. You just said, what's the power? But like I said, I don't know, Bam. So I, and that's the thing also, Joe and Ocho, you know this. You got to know a person's disposition.

You got to know who you can joke with. Yeah. You got to know who you can play with. You gotta know who you could like, certain things like, hey, certain people, you can't make no jokes. Right. About their family, by the kids, about anything. You make a joke about guys a play and do be ready to fight.

I go. Yeah, my grandma could have caught that one. Yeah. And what way, hey, shaw, hey, let that go. Oh, I'll let it go just like you let that ball go. You know what I said? Yeah. Hey.

But you got, you gotta know. Because everybody don't play like you play. No, no. You got to be aware, it's all about self-awareness, knowing who you can joke with, especially in a locker room with 53 players. You know who to play with?

You know who not to play with. I had this problem. You know how I play around. Remember, well, you don't think you was there yet. When Zeus, Orlando Brown. Orlando Brown. Man, Joe. I had left.

I had retired when he came back to Baltimore. Yeah, boy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had already retired, Ojo. It's a. story, Joe. We had that warming up before the game start. You know how the players warm up. I'm like, God, Lee, man, dude, big as hell. Mind you, me being my funny self, I wouldn't have jumped on his back. You know how people jump on your back? Yeah. On his back. You didn't know him?

No, I ain't knowing. I ain't knowing. But I thought, you know, I thought, you know, when he saw it was me, he was going to be cool. Yeah. Man, Uncle Joe, man, that nigga tried to whip my ass on the field, boy. I had to run to the locker room just to finish warming up. I had to go get Big Willie. I had that big Willie come out and talk to him. And Orlando Brown Jr., he talked about that story all the time, every time I've seen him, man. Hey, rest pop, soul, man. Hey, everybody don't play the same, though.

I learned the hallway, because he was, hey, Joe, he was dead serious. No, he wasn't a guy that, that really messed around like that play like that. Hey, I'm like, I'm just playing, man. He's out of the fuck, who the fuck you think I am? He'd be jumping on my back. Yeah.

And he squared up with me. And man, I took off to the locker room, man. Hey, hey, I bet you didn't just, You didn't jump on nobody else damn back, did you? Uh, well, yeah, Ray, Ray Lewis. Yeah, you saw what I did. I, I made that work. Come on, hey, but you're right, but you're right, though.

You don't, you don't know, bro. And you take a guy's demeanor for granted. Yeah, he may have been thinking like, man, I ain't never seen Bamb pissed out. He ain't gonna do nothing, though. Yeah, mess around and find out. And what happened if the day that you want to joke, he's having the worst day of his life.

Oh. You're going to catch the repercussions of it. You don't know what somebody endured while they were a child. Oh, man. You don't know their background. Because remember now, when you deal with an individual, lady deal with a guy, guy deal with a lady,

you're not just dealing with her. You're dealing with her past. You're dealing with her trauma. Yeah. So you don't know. It might be a situation that somebody has said something to him and he wasn't in a situation

where he could defend. himself like he can now. Yeah. Now you put him right back in the situation that he'd hoped he'd never be in, but he can defend himself now. Yeah. Now you got hell on your hands.

Now you got to, hey, you got to be a hostage negotiator to talk his ass down. I'm just saying. And now you got a black eye. Yeah. Plan. Now, now it's, it's, it's, it's, because I'm like, it's like,

you walk around on the team. Y'all still got to be teammates, and this man that whipped you. I mean, how that worked? Oh, Joe, how that worked? Hey. I'm just saying, Chad, I don't know. Because I've been on team when we had fights.

And, you know, I ain't know. Everybody knows. I was kind of like the voice of reason. You know, I'm trying to keep peace with everybody, the defense, offense. But then sometimes, hey, you say something about somebody, mama. And his mom is dead. What's up?

It's up. I have how many fights you didn't know that? You never had no fights in training camp, especially training camp. No. Nah, hell, no, man. Oh, Joe. Man, it's 100 degrees. We're going to be out there two hours.

I'm saving out of you. Yeah, I had one fight. I never forget. I had one fight with our safety at the time. I think it was, I don't think you don't know if you remember. His name was Madhu Williams. He was good. He was nice.

I do. I know, yeah. Really, really, really solid safety. You know, we got into it. I forgot what it was. Maybe hit me after a play or something like that. But, yeah, it wasn't long. It wasn't long, just, you know, a little scuffle.

Yeah. That was it. I was the only time, only time I ever had a fight. And I was in training camp at Georgetown. And probably we had that fight. We was tired of playing against each other. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he probably, probably overly aggressive.

Yeah. Ojo. He was overly aggressive. I think so. I think he might have been. And knowing that, okay, we got the pads on, if anything, just thud me up. Of all players that actually hit, don't hit me.

Yeah. We need, hey, Joe, don't hit me. We need to be on Sunday. You know, and I just, you know, well, Marva, Marva said, well, Marma hit that whistle. Man, two motherfuckers don't get you all that. And then that was the end of it right there.

Dang. No, I ate. Because I already know, well, we're not practicing hard enough. If you got that kind of energy to fight, we're not practicing hard enough. Let's go. Another 30 minutes. Bro, we are out of 45 already.

And in two a day? Oh, man, no, bro. Now, if you brought, you know, you have a joint practice, Ocho, that's something entirely different. Yeah, now that's always a fight, no matter what. I'm tired, man, what you want to do, man? Hey, let's get out of this practice. Every play, Joe,

crap, quack, quack, hey, hey, hey, cut it out. Hey, get his ass out of there. Somebody in there to get in there. Next play, same thing. Same thing. You know what's funny, Joe, Uncle Joe? Every year on ESPN, they have these long think pieces about joint practices and everybody fighting. Mind you, I've been retired now 13 years and every joint practice, it's a fight.

And they get on ESP and act like, oh, my goodness, I can't be they fighting in training care. Hello, have y'all ever been in an organized activity with two different teams competing with pads on? That's going to always be a fight. And plus, hell, y'all tired of playing against each other. So once you do play against somebody else, all that testosterone started to come out because y'all playing a sport that's built off contact. Yeah, y'all looking for it.

Y'all looking for the confrontation. Mm-hmm. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Joe, we play a sport that was built on intimidation. That's a good one. That's a good one. We're trying to move a man. We're trying to break a man's spirit.

Yeah. That's what football was founded on. You got a plotter land. I got a plot of land. My job is to try to get as far as I can on your plot of land. Your job is to try to get as far as I can, you can't on my plot of land. I ain't going nowhere because I know if you keep sitting up shop on my side, pretty soon you're going to own the real estate and I ain't going to have nothing.

Hello. Hello. I like that. And it is so funny, if you think about Uncle Joe, I mean, obviously, y'all see me in person. Joe, you see me, you see me for years is, is the intimidating factor is I wasn't able to do it because I'm not imposingly intimidating at all. Don't know, Joe. I tried to intimidate as well, but I played the mental game.

Right. Trash talking. Now, if I get you out your game, I'm going to get you out your game up here. Not with this, because I don't have that. So I had to use talking trash to get you out of the game. If I can get you to, if I can get you angry, I got you. Yeah, I appreciate it. I got you by this much.

I just need to get you angry. I need to get you to converse with me, which is why I never wore a mouthpeen, Joe. I ain't wearing a mouthpiece no purpose. If I can get you in a conversation, I got him all game. But you know what? Even no matter where I've been,

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You got kids, you got kids. kids, but I don't see none of them right here at this table. Keep your hands to yourself. We fine. We find. You know how they're cool. Listen. And you're there for heart-wrenching knockouts.

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Hey. Hey. Hey, what's going on, man? Where are you? He muted. Hey, you muted. Spank, you muted. You still muted.

All right, how about now? Yeah, you got me good. All right. I'm in New Jersey. I'm getting ready for the OJ. in golf event tomorrow followed by Cooling the gang on Tuesday. That's right.

Cool in the game. Yeah, cooling the game. Cool in the game performed at our first Super Bowl show. Our party, we got to. Oh, yeah, that's right. Okay, that's right. Yeah, they perform. So, hey, you know what, man,

everybody asks that you've been retired. You've been retired three decades now. So what's a typical day for show? Ooh, in the summer, now that it is hot. A typical day is, but you got to get up early to get out get that golf in before it get too hot.

You don't want to be, hey, hey, bro, you know, we don't want to be reminded about being in the tobacco field. So we got to get out there and get it in. Yeah, I'm good. But that's pretty much it, man. I get a chance to enjoy my friends. My daughter is self-sufficient now at 32 years old, so don't have to really worry about her.

You know, I got my brother out of the house. I got my mom out of the house, my grandma out of the house. man, I'm living for me right now. My sister is still in the house, but she good. I'm living for me right now. You keep talking about your friend. You got one friend, AG, and C. Lee and C. Lee and West Michigan.

My question is, why you put my business in the street? Huh? Yeah. But you know what? People are, and you always call me, say, man, people always ask you when they see you. say, man, I heard your brother say this on nightcap, man, is that be, is that true? Is that true? You say that's the number one question that you get when people see you and they're like, man,

your brother said this about your grandfather. And is that true, man, did your grandfather really say this? Your grandfather really do this. Yes. When I don't, when I see the clips myself, I usually comment like, yeah, he, he did say, he did do that. You know, he did say that. Like, you told the story about. about granny hooking me in the eyelid,

sitting behind her as she's fishing, throwing the pole. I'm like, that happened. I'm like, he kind of glossed over the story where you set the field on fire and then went back and told Papa that somebody did it. He said it was you, boys. I got the punishment for that.

You know, so it's interesting because you're three years younger to me. It's just interesting of the stories you remember and how you remember with the accuracy of, you know, you couldn't tell about the beating that I got for you setting the field on five because you didn't experience that.

Hey, hey, but he used to tell it, though, didn't he? Hey, Joe, let me tell you. If you want to know where the Lindbergh baby is, don't tell him. If you want to know where Amelia Earharty is, don't tell Shannon. Because if Shannon know it, you don't have to bribe him

he's going to tell it for free he's giving you up he's giving you up for free hey I told the story I was telling Joe and Ocho the story about we watched it

we watched it Papa gave us two dollars to watch the truck you watch the body I watched the time you take it from there all right first of all Joe we watch the car

totally wrong you're supposed to watch the car from the top down we started from the bottom up. So by the time that dis-washing detergent, that we were using to watch the car, by the time I got to the top, you know,

the break dust and everything had already just eating that detergent up, right? He came out there and looked at that mess, and he was like, boy, y'all, first of all, he threatened us because he was like, boy, y'all, y'all know y'all needs your ass with for doing this. Okay, that's the first thing you see.

It is. He was just, you know, because it was one of the few times that he allowed us to do something without instructing us. So it didn't go well. I don't even think we got the $2 because let me tell you something else. I don't know if Shannon, I don't know if Shannon told you guys this, but what he would do was is he would pay us $2 to watch the car and then charge us a dollar to take us to the store. And there was no. You know, oh, Joe, you'd be like, hey, man, get me some of them skittles and get me a Rizica.

No, sir. There was no buying for somebody. If you didn't pay the dollar, everybody had to pay that toll. So he was a true. See, when I tell people that, they're like, man, it wasn't like that. He told me because he came back there because Spank and say, hey, go tell Papa, we don't finish with the car. Joe, I go in the hive just like he instructed me to,

just like a good little brother supposed to do what his big brother tell me to do something. So I go get Papa. I said, Papa, he's done. He come out there, he put his overalls on. He got one strap hanging. He come out there, he looks at you. I should be shot. I should whip your ass is what I should do.

That would he said it. He said anything. He said anything. But yeah, he was like, man, Joe. He was, he. Hold on. You didn't tell him the one about, about how he used to, sometimes he.

would make you feel so stupid. Now, for lack of a better word, Joe. We wash the car. Now it's time to wax it. So instead of saying, hey, go over and grab the wax. He says, hey, Spanky, go get that J-wax. What's the J-wax? So I'm looking, Joe, I'm like this.

So I'm looking at the J-wax. And I'm like, I'm looking at the wax, but I'm looking for the J-wax. Hey, boy, boy, get that J-Wax. Eat him up, J-Wax. Eat him up. Because it was so close to me. If it was a snake, it would have been. But he did things like that.

But it's amazing, though, that Shannon has the memory being three years. Because when Pop-Bar died, you would have been, what, nine, eight, nine? Eight. I'll have been nine of my birthday when I was in. And so for him to remember, And he was not in the fire as much as I was. I mean, if I were to start a podcast and start telling these stories, these folks would arrest Barney Port.

They would dig him up and arrest his ass for the thing. Joe, Joe, this is, I'm telling you, you start back talking because I don't want to talk too much. But Joe, I used to sleep with him. Shannon slept with my grandma. I slept with him. He would wake me up at two in the morning. Make me ride with him to the truck stop. He got eggs, grits, toast.

He got the pancakes with the syrup. He got coffee. And he would look at me and say, yeah, you don't want to eat this because you're going to eat cereal in the morning. He takes Spanky to watch him eat, Joe. Guys, the reason he nicknamed me Spanky is he couldn't say Sterling. So he was like, that boy, their name Spanky.

I ain't calling him whatever that. You named him. I don't know where you get that fancy. name from his name spanky and to this day there's two people that still called me spanky my brother and my my home boy calvin macneill are the only two people that called me that hey what about we got in trouble for cutting the grass wait which plates because because which is crazy now how we got in trouble if he showed you a way to do something you had to do it that way so you couldn't cut it's cutting grass

So he. You can't get that. You can't get that wrong, though. Yes, you can. Yeah, because if he was going from the house to the way and you went from the road to the chicken coop or to the horse pen, he lose his mind. No, it is now. It wasn't in.

It wasn't. It wasn't in. Because he's going to come out there. the first thing he's going to ask you, who told you to do this? So, so. You know, Joe, we got to push you, but we could have. We thought we did it. Hey, fellas, he asked more rhetorical questions than anybody on the planet.

Hey, hey, who told y'all to do this? Because I know if you answer this question, whatever answer you give is going to be wrong. And there was consequences and repercussions. For any answer you got, for any answer you gave, let me tell him. Yes. Hey, let me ask your questions, mate. How was he about me and?

Oh, no, no, no. Could you be late? Bro, you know, you said Harold Green is my best friend. Bro, the only falling out me and Harold have ever had was he was late coming to my house. Bro, we leave and driving to Atlanta. He's supposed to be at my house at seven. He gets there by 735, bro. I'm steaming.

the one thing Barney Porter was not going to you wasn't going to be as late that's not going to happen him he is not going he is not going to have you attempt to be late because if you don't respect Barney Porter's time

there was consequences and there was repercussions it's always that way you were going to respect you're going to respect his time because you respected him he was that way he was definitely that way but yeah Shannon

boy let me tell you. But this podcast thing, I know you guys, man, y'all doing a heck of a job and I enjoy it. But Shannon, man, you're talking too much. You're putting all our business in the street. That's why our sister don't want him to write a book because, boy,

it's like, look, Shannon. My sister got so fed up with Shannon talking about us growing up in a house without running water that she almost disown. But people, but see, Spake, when we tell them because, you know, Grandma Lou had the old,

the old little house on the prairie, the prime pump that you pulled the water in and the water comes down at the bottom. Yeah, we had to lower the bucket. And when I tell people that tell my man, that's from the 50s and 60s, I say, how are you going to tell me something I experienced? Well, how about it?

I didn't tell you about the experience that I read about. I'm telling you about a little. Tell the boys about what we put in the well to keep the bugs out so we didn't bring up a well bugs when we brought up the bucket. What we put in the catfish? Put the catfish in the whale. Wait, catfish in the way of that?

What'd that do? Catfish would eat the bugs. See, the catfish would come up and eat the bugs. So when you lower the bucket, you ain't going to get a bucket full of bugs. You're getting pure water. Right. I can't tell you if it works. I'm just telling you what we did.

Hey, uh, with Jim, rest of soul, Eugene, our first cousin, Eugene, uh, brother, sister, kids. we was walking up walking the war on sammy kirkland house big old red waltz beside the barn everybody and you know what i don't know what made him joe man let's see who can hit that waltz nest now i'm the youngest arnell is the oldest by seven eugene is the next oldest by six spank is the next

oldest by three land is two years old to me i'm the youngest yeah this had to be i could have been no more than six at least yeah you're going to be so so we take turn we tried to take Joe we don't we were firing at that thing bro and just right on cue Eugene hit it they take off they go on why take off but it's a little bit too late man they told me up then yes they got they love young joe hey hey Joe hey how did you he can run fast enough I couldn't run fast enough on Joe he You got to realize I'm six years old. R. L. L. L.R. 13, U.G. 12, spanking, nine, landing.

He, he likes to talk about what kind of athlete he was. He ain't never had wheels, though. He was always a dump truck on the highway. He was always in the way. Hey, so I take off running. They start running. They laughing. I run straight to the high because I'm going to get him in trouble.

I walk in, hey, so by the time they get there, they're coming in there, I'm out of breath, I breathe a hard time. Papa, Papa. Papa, they throw in the waltzes. You should have run. But Papa, I did, go. I said, Papa, Papa, I did.

But you should have run fast. That joke, hey, he was very matter of fact. He had, he did not have an empathy or sympathy bone in your, in his body. If he told you, if he promised you something, set your clock back. It was going to happen. If he said, I'm going to tell you, well, he didn't tell you that.

Or if he looked, or if he gave you that looking church. Your rest of your day was ruined. Because you knew it was going to. It was like, I don't know exactly when. But it's going to happen. Because, you know, like on the 4th Sunday, man, was the time that we got a chance to work on our athletic moves because all our cousins would come over.

our aunts and my grandma would cook so we're eating we eating cake oh Joe we're doing it up big we're doing it big yeah yeah so you don't forget about the look you got when when the pastor was praying or no when one of the deacons

either deacon Joe Schar or or Deithing Nathan Naker were playing Nathan you lost the mister yeah he told them for Mr. Leo so when you kind of was nodding off that those and because you should have gone to bed early. And when you, you know, when you wake up, you look.

The first thing you do is look over in that beacon corner to our left to see if he looking. And he's looking at him. And just get on, amen, amen. Amen. Amen. You don't forget all about it. Boy, you get the brakes beat off. About 9.30 that night, get the brakes beat off.

Yeah. Damn. He was different. And I think, I thought Spank had the most. Spank had the most of his ways. I think once we grew up and the way we grew up. But now that I sit back and think about it, I think I'm more like him than you more public.

You more public. And see, Bernie Porter would have never done a podcast. Don't know. He's never done a podcast. Barney Porter would have never done a podcast with you two guys either. So there's two things

that Barney Porter would have never done. and and he always kept stuff close to the vips like he would say things to us that he wouldn't say to other our other cousins or to his sons because i spent more time with my uncle thurman who was a farmer with him and him so i learned how to be a man from them to um but his you can say you are more like him but liby would say to I think my matterisms. I think the lateness, I think the,

but you, Shane, you're public. You public, though. So you, you have a persona where you ain't like,

you know, you ain't jovial all the time. You ain't, you ain't on nightcap, you ain't on, you ain't on nightcap, you ain't on club Shay all the time. So you kind of have to be,

Barney Porter would have never done a pocket. Bonnie Porter ain't ever coming not letting you know what he think. He ain't ever doing that. He, he, and, and if he don't like something, he's going to say he don't like it. And he really don't care what your act or reaction is.

This is what he believed. So if you don't like it, you don't like it over there. It would despise. You know, there's a scene, which is really crazy about this movie, lean on me. There's a scene where the assistant principal says, you can't throw the fire chief out.

And Joe Clark says, yeah, he's saying that too. But you know where he's saying that? He's saying that in the parking lot. That's how Barney was. He gave you his mind and there was no retort or, you know, let me come back to you on that. That was, this is my way and there's the road over there. Hey, hey, that's always.

Yes, indeed. Y'all know how it is. Hey, they remind me, I'm telling you. they remind me so much when I hear Uncle talk about his grandpa. It reminded me a Nolan Richardson, bro, when I played at the University of Arkansas. Hey, man, it wasn't a lot of, you know, key, key, ha, ha, ha, patch on your back. You know, good job. It wasn't, hey, man.

It was not a lot of that, bro. I'm talking about when he came in, when he came in my mother's living room, so you're going to send him to me as a boy. I'm going to send him back as a man. That's what happens. Barney, we do this a couple of times at our golf course. we be sitting around and they'd be like talk about words you never heard your parent or guardian say. So I'm like my grandpa, good job.

Never heard him say that. That's right. Never heard him say that. Not to us. Not what I'm saying to us. Never heard him say, good job. Never heard that was right. Never heard that keep doing what you're doing.

No, whatever you did was wrong until he's. stopped doing it. Whatever you did was wrong until he stopped doing. So I told Joe the story, the last problem the last two years of his life, how did Papa sleep on his knees? He couldn't sleep in the bed.

So he knelt down either on the, by the sofa or in the bed, well, on the side of the bed. He couldn't sleep in the bed. He slept on his knees. Hold on, but why he couldn't sleep in the bed? Honestly, and I usually don't say that because usually when people say,

they're getting ready to lie, but he couldn't sleep in the bed because he thought somebody put a root on. Yeah, my grandpa, yes indeed, my boy, yes, sir, and I ain't going to, and I'm not even going to tell you that somebody came over, did some things outside his bedroom window, and a half a jar of frogs and lizards and snakes, I ain't going to even tell you all that popped up. And I ain't going to even tell you that the person that did this opened this jar and said, Barney, if you see how this frog is dried up, if that whole frog would have dried up, there ain't nothing nobody could have done for you. I ain't even going to tell you that because I know you're not going to believe it

because us standing now we don't, to this day, we still don't believe it. Do we change? And that's what happened. That is a true story. Damn. You think stuff like that is real roots? Okay, now the Bible I read says no, so I'm going to say no. I'm going to say that ain't real.

I'm going to say that ain't true. But in 1975, it was. It was in 1975. Yeah. Because if you, the problem was, is that what he says, he believed it. Right. Yeah, he believed it. So people like, man, I ain't scared of the dead because the dead can't do anything.

They can't hurt you. They can't make you hurt your damn. It's your thing. I tell you what you don't ever see. You don't ever see anybody walking through a cemetery at night. They're always in the herd. You know, they're walking through the cemetery at night.

Everybody always in the herd, always. That's a, and I told a story about when he got into it, and that was, that had to be, that might have been 74, 75. When he was, he was,

because the front porch was like right here. His bedroom, his bed was right there. As you walked to the doors on the right. Yes. Yeah. And his brother kept thumping me, thumping me on my head. Yeah. And he had a saying, Joe, Ocho, he said, don't.

He detested it. He despised it. Yeah. He said, if you thump a kid on his hand, you'll make a big kid, and he wouldn't learn. Now, I ain't saying that ain't true either based on your grades in high school. So I ain't saying that ain't true. But no, he was, he was as adamant about that as being. Like, he did not play you.

Hit the kid anywhere else. Do not thump the kid on the head. Don't do it. Which is really weird, but yeah, he would, that was him. That was definitely. He kept thumping me and I kept out like, oh, stop, stop. And you can hear Joe, he always, he gets up putting them coeralls on. You can hear the change in his pocket.

He got a, hey, he got that one strap. He come out there. One, now he's talking to his own. he talked to his brother. He, he talked to his brother. You, you hit that boy

one more time. And, you know, when he said that, like, everybody was like bristled because he wasn't threatening. My grandfather was never really

threatening like that. And, hey, you hit that boy one, hey, hit that boy one more time. And everybody, like,

froze. And I drew a blank because I had never seen, that side. Actually, that might be the only side, the only time that that came out. Because I don't think he ever, he and his best friend, Virgil Williams, I don't think they ever had any. No, I think, I think that might have been the only time I've ever seen my grandfather mad. And I'm talking my old school southern mad. And what y'all won't remember

is back in the day, when old folks got mad, they handled the it with a straight razor or a pistol. There wasn't going outside throwing fist. They were getting ready to somebody was either going to the hospital or to the morgue. They were getting it in. And I think that's the only time I saw Papa, that was, yeah, he was

done. Because what did he tell him to go to? And Shannon was the baby. So he was a little bit, he was a lot of bit different than how that he had been thumping me on the head, my grandfather would say it

work. But, but Shannon was a little bit different to, he, he, he made sure, like if Shannon would have had to go to the truck stop, Shannon would have got to eat what he ate. So, so, you know, Shannon, well, you know, as the baby, Shannon, I am probably more proud of what he turned into because Joe, he wasn't supposed to be, he ain't supposed to be there. he ain't supposed to be where he is right now. He ain't supposed to be as successful as he is right now. He ain't supposed to be as articulate as he is, even though sometimes he get his words mixed up and he gets excited

and they don't come out right. It's okay. I know what he's, I know what he talks. Hey, old Joe, I know what he's saying. I know what he's saying. But he was for that time, he got enough of what that time was, man. And these stories are, these are just a few of the stories.

I mean, when my grandfather was going to kill his own brother over my brother. That's how he thought about Shannon. That's how he was basically my grandfather's baby, even though my uncle James is his baby boy. That's how he thought about Shannon. So he was going to kill him. He's going to kill his brother. He's going to kill his brother over Shannon. He was going to kill his brother over Shannon.

That's how. And he left, Ocho, he left, check this out. He left his right. He told you, he left. He never came back. And when my grandfather died, he wouldn't go into church. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. That is, yes, sir. Now, I'm talking about that, it's kind of funny. You know, as spiritual as they were, man look when they hated they hate it when they were angry but there was no I'm sorry

ain't no coming back from that that you know because they hold a good they hold a bridge oh boy what you're saying man man hey uh

yeah my my I'm trying to think granted no great it was totally they were the total I don't know how they got together because they were the total

that's why now granted would get mad but that's why but she wasn't like Yeah, my grandfather, yeah. Papa, you never saw him without that 45 in the right pocket. You never saw it anywhere.

You carry straight raises too. Yeah, hey, boy, two things a man should always care. A wallet and a straight razor or a gun. That's the two things. A wallet or a straight razor or a gun. I was five years old, Ocho and had a wallet and had a bill put in my back pocket.

And because, And because we were robbing him, he didn't know it. He started carrying a chain on his wallet because we were taking money out to buy ice cream. I'm telling y'all this. I've already asked. I've already asked for forgiveness. So I'm telling y'all, as y'all know, I've already asked God for forgiveness. But, man, you know what, Joe, old joke, fellas, I will say this.

You know, a lot of people can pinpoint one or two things. I don't think I'm here this way, you know, getting the chance to play golf all over the country, getting a chance to enjoy my NFL friends, my celebrity friends, without that upbringing. I don't think I'm here. I don't think that discipline of I'm, we've been working, you know, because in the Bible it says, you know, do things not for your human master, but for your heavenly one. But I've been working for God all my life because the way Barney Ford had you do stuff. Oh, God had to be pleased. with the work we did. God was thoroughly pleased with the work we did

because that's how we was raised. There wasn't a number. How much do we make for catching chickens? A dollar thousand. So if there was 14,000 chickens in that, let's see me, me, Shannon, Arnelle, Eugene, Laney, Robbie Bernard. So the seven of us had, you know,

10, had 12, 13, 14. Every now and then we get an 18. We love getting 18, 19,000 chicken house because that's $19 in our pocket. But we getting up in there, bro, and a couple of the older guys from Clifton were catchers. So they would catch. So a good night, Ocho, Joe, a good night is you carrying six, three in each hand.

Now, you want to catch hell. You had that night where you got four in one hand and three in the other. And I'm talking about you like, you know, 12, 13, 14, 15, I'm like weight strong has never bothered me. That has never been a problem. But that's that upbringing, man, because you didn't go in there going, oh, man, I hope Uncle James or I hope Uncle James or I hope Earl don't come tonight, man. No, bro, we were like, we need to get it.

We need to get this money. If we plan on getting, you know, because we used to get jeans back in the day, but they were all blue. They were all the same size. They were all the same length. So regardless, if you had six pair of jeans, they were identical. So you didn't wear them out. So, man, Joe, I'm telling you.

But we call chickens, that's after you don't work in the field. I mean, you don't win, you don't win cross the basketball. We were. You don't got there, seven, got the field at seven, got home at five. You ate, hey, we go play basketball, sit back down, because they're going to come get you when it gets caught. Now, we ain't playing. Now, Ojo's three days. Black share by day.

Yeah, he ain't playing basketball down at the direct. That's me and him out in the yard working on our game. That's me and him playing. Yeah. And then because, you know, back in the day, you had to wait until it got dark to kick. So chickens would all gather in one spot. So, you know, we getting picked up at 9, 9.30, depending on where we're going, getting up at 9, 30, 10 o'clock at night.

And then we're in the house, in the chicken house about 11. And we need me get up out of there by 1. 1.30. We need to be in the car and the truck, you know, getting back to the house. Because we got seven o'clock, we got a seven o'clock, Mr. Joe, the Tatum brothers. Are we going to go in the back to the field again? Or we was doing school too. Yeah, we had to get, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yes. But I mean, y'all, y'all had to be sleepy in school, man. Well, Shannon was, as you can tell, Shannon was sleeping. He was sleeping. I was not sleep, old show. But the thing is, man, and I'm going to say this again, when you don't know any better, that's all right.

That norm is okay. And that norm is not hard. That norm is not difficult. I don't ever remember us complaining about it being too hot. I mean, because you got to understand. Into tobacco field, you got on long sleeves. You got on blue jeans and long sleeves. In the chicken house.

And a hat on your head to keep the talking about you. And the chicken house, you got on blue jeans and long sleeves. So everything. Yeah. So, you know, when you don't know any better, that ain't nothing wrong with this. because I mean, we, because when my grandfather was alive, we were working for Barney Porter, the fact that he was feeding and clothing us,

as he used to say all the time, that's your pay right there. That's your pay. Yeah. You know, it didn't. It sounds like Denzel and Finsett. Yes. Yeah, that's how we know this.

Yes. He's, that's what, that's exactly what he said. Yes. That's your one. You're not going to get no pay. I feed you. And he's. And he's.

And clothing you and put a roof over. And he said it. You know what you said something earlier, you said, you're proud of me because I wasn't supposed to be here. Tell him what Grant used to tell me every day. Which part? Because first of all, somebody was going to get him in that glob of mouth of his. So they were somebody, somebody going to kill him. Yes.

Somebody going to kill him. And then, you know, and even, you know, I'm going to say it. When he, you know, his senior year, when he was all this and all that. and, you know, they weren't calling or coming to see him. I wasn't worried about him because I was like that this, you know, and I wasn't in college to go to the NFL. I was in college because that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to play pro football and that's what I had to do. But Joe, which is really, fellas, which is really crazy is when I got drafted, bro, the draft came on and the phone rang.

So, you know, I'm in the car. headed to the airport. When he got drafted, the first day went by, and we were over at our good friend, Melva and Jim Bowler, Peter and Michael Bowler's mom, and great family. I just saw Jim and Melva the other day, as a matter of fact, Jim, told me to tell you, hello. We were over at their house, so when we get back to my house, he's disappointed, and he's hurt. So get up the next morning, we go over to the University of South Carolina to work out. I'm like, bro, let's just go go get it in so we end up working out and the whole time i'm driving down there he's just telling me bro i just want a chance man i just want a chance man so he's gone from i should be in the first

three rounds to i just want a chance well to me i didn't care because i'm like bro you're going to live like i live whether you make it or not you know i know i know you want to play and you want to establish your own i got that but bro you're going to live like i live whether you make it or not you know i know i know you want to play and you want to establish your own. I got that. But bro, you see what I'm driving? You already drive? Hold on. He had a Mercedes before I did. So he was in the NFL and, you know,

since we put in each other's business in the street, bro, I paid Shannon's bills in the NFL until my daughter was born. So he was in the NFL and I was. Man, what I told you by dry. It ain't nobody asked you there. Hey, I just, you know, I just, Hey, I told you, bro, you started it. That's why Libby don't want you writing a book because she living would have to come out with all this.

And you know the first story Libby going to tell is you stealing the ring saying it's your fire truck. Hey, I try to get mad at kindergarten, Joe. You don't have to come. I wasn't care. You know, at that time, I know, I know how important it was to him, but I didn't care. Because I was like, brother, where I lived. however I'm living, you're going to live the exact same way, bro. This ain't me living this way and you're going to be over in a mobile home.

And there ain't nothing wrong with a mobile home if that's how you prepared to live. But I was just going to make sure that just because he was my brother and what we had gone through together, bro, whatever I got, and I mean, he'll tell you, bro, I had the first S.L convertible in the state of South Carolina. My brother wrecked it. um no he didn't no he didn't know he didn't know he didn't hey don't bad he's going by

Ochoo how did it look no he didn't record he jumped y'all is what he said what he told me what he did was is he ran into someone and hit the Mercedes emblem

and snatched the Mercedes emblem out the grill so he calls me and he goes hey man I uh I junkyard stuff man wait what yeah bro I junkyard your stuff man

what are you talking about your car man I I I wrecked it you you wrecked my my new car I said well that's all right bro we get it you know you are all yeah yeah I'm good

well you coming back no no I'm gonna stay down here for a few more days I was like boy You kept driving it? Yeah. What? Man, I'm in a convert of air cell. Brand new.

Man, hey, hey, Joe, Ocho. And they're sitting on the back cover like they're in the parade, too. Hey, Joe, Joe, hey, man. Hey, so, so, well, man, you know, just come on back. You know, you're coming back today? Oh, no, man, I'm gonna stay a few more days, man. I'm just gonna come back, you know, when it's over. Because, you know, I'm gonna come back when it's old.

Oh, you're gonna come back when the party over? Black Holly spring break. Okay. And did that lead right? Hey, Joe, didn't that lead right in the freaknik? See, he ain't tell you, but he's with me with freaknik, though. He's all, man, this is a tomato. I can't, hey, Joe.

I was like, hey, hey, boy, yeah. Mm-mm. I'm building a name for myself and I don't need my name over here I need my name over here but no Joe growing up with this dude man it was hey Joe

he told a lie and I like to call out lies he said he beat the time he beat me in basketball he ain't he ain't ever beat me in basketball I beat him Joe I beat him Joe Hey, hold on, hold on, OG.

How bad you used to do it, my dad? Okay, so, Joe, okay, so you ISO, Joe, I used to ISO back in the day now. So, hey, Joe, Joe, I was bigger than him. So, of course, I'm going in the post. So just so I could, we could make the game go longer, I kind of can't play him hard. So what he figured out was, if he if he score first i'm going to win the game so what he started doing was he would score

and then run in the house and be like man i beat that big old joke i can't believe that big joke so so now jo i'm hot so now i got to go in you know i got to go in the house joe i got Right. I got, I got. Oh, Joe. Hey, O Joe, you know, he doesn't, he, so he, I got to let him score because now I got to work on my moves because we ain't playing organized sports in high school. We only playing me and him. So I got to let him score.

So he's going to take it out. He dribbled it two times. He take off running to the house. Be that big old joke. I'm not. You know, Joe, boy, that joke was strong. I can't, boy, that you ain't going to never play on anybody team. Joe, boy, that joke used to have me so hot.

Did I lose, Joe, I throw the ball in the hog pen. He's going there to tell granted, like a, like a towel to tell him. That boy threw the ball in the hog pin. Y'all, y'all done? Yeah, granted would be like, y'all done playing? Well, no, he threw the ball in the hog pin. You know what? Somebody going to either hit that boy in his old big mouth, or they're going to kill it.

That's what they're going. No, granny, I'm going to kill him. I'm going to be the one to kill it. Hey, hey, hey, when you think back to them days, bro, like those are like golden days, golden times. When you think back, because they mold you into the people who you are today, because I totally understand those type of. You know, in the times, especially in the last year or something,

having to go back and think about, you know, us growing up, they were so special, Joe, because at the time, you're thinking this is all we're going to ever be able to do. You know, we're never going to be able to play organized sports. You know, we're never going to be able to really fulfill what talent we think we got. So, you know, man, let me tell you, you want to see some moves. You should have been there on 4th Sunday when all of us. of us together playing dodgeball or kickball or softball or man look you talking about athletic bro bro athletic was i mean it was an understatement for us just because it was one it was it was

literally once a month that we got a chance to do it and you know those times are real special because you're like this is my NBA championship this is my super bowl this is my MLB championship you know, this is the best it's going to get. So this is going to have to hold on for a month. So we got to put together this type of energy and effort because it's got to hold us for a month.

So yeah, it was very special times back then. Very special. You realize it's now that we sit down and we call and we think back to bending those saplings and greater would say, boy, y'all stop bending them saplings. Them trees, you're going to break them, they're going to be able to grow. And we're

sitting on there we come on and say you better not have to take them clothes off you got red bulls though you probably and that we sit back and think about it joe and no choke it's like and every time and like he said no he would you know we fight and everything and I would tell my grandma my grandma never punished him you say son we never really falls it was usually two licks past I hit you you start crying and that was pretty much the end of you know and then I feel bad because I'm being I'm piquing on a weaker kid and I'm going to need him again. tomorrow because we're going to be right back on the out there on the court tomorrow so i can't punish him but i got to let him know what he's doing right only for him he be he was cheating oh

he was cheating he was cheating yeah but see you know how i get him though i let him do something i let him do something and then i was threatened to go tell papa he'd know that be the end of it because so when he cut me on my thigh with the jeez he had uh he had a uh uh uh a lot not And he was sharpened it. On the five. On the file. He was sharpened on that chains on file. Man, that thing was so, so he's like, let me see how sharp my knife field.

So I went to put on two pair of shorts, a pair of jeans, Joe. Man, that joke, but he hit me with it. And I, I read, I said, dangling. Yeah. I felt we're down to the white meat. And I saw blood. Down to the white meat. Joe, I said, yeah, I got to tell Paul.

Oh, hold on. No, you don't. Hey, Joe. Yo, no, you don't. That's why I got this. I got this cut right here, because I had to let him cut me back so he wouldn't go and wrap me. Yeah, you had to cut it back.

Oh, what? Yeah, that joke, and I had to. Hey, Joe, what kind of fool is this? You cut me and I can't get him. That joke, that would have never made it. I get a cut man. I got a $2 bill, and I got two-s-old. He would have never made it in the mall.

That jugger was, boy, he'd be giving up for the left and right. He would have never made. But. Yeah. Joe, hold on. You think I would let that man cut me and I can't get no cut back? Damn.

He said he got to get your give back. No matter. What he did me, I stuck a pig fork in his leg. He took it and stuck it right back in my leg. Y'all are understanding. There is no right or wrong. When it got to Barney Porter's desk,

all parties involved were wrong. There ain't no. There ain't no, well, you shouldn't have it. No, y'all both getting it. And just to keep from getting it, like, he used to be like, hey, y'all get out of bed on Saturday morning. Y'all get up. I ain't raising no lazy young. Y'all get up and watch the sunrise.

But what we had to get up? Watch the sunrise. Yeah, y'all boys get up. Y'all boys get up and watch the sunrise. I ain't raising those lazy youngs. Like, ooh, Lord. Hey, hey. Who, who, who, Lord.

Hey, hey, y'all ain't having when your grandma's to tell you go out there and give me that switch and you bet they come on you. No, sir, we were never that lucky. But we were never that lucky. Hey, our grandparents were equal opportunities. They did their own hunting. They did their own scalping. They did their own switch getting. And no, because they knew we wasn't going to come back with nothing of significance.

They already knew us that well. So, you know, we ain't ever had to go get our own. But then, but then too, around our house, you get hit with anything. Yeah. I'm talking about you'd be like, I'm looking at this light cord right here. And I don't know how many times the light cord got snatched out. And I'm like, hey, how do you do that? Hey, hold up.

Oh, gee, real. Like, I'm telling you all, man, I've seen my cousins and them get beat with stitching cords. Yeah. Yeah, I'm talking about, I'm talking about, look, look, they get whips so bad. I ain't even get hit. You cry because you don't want to get here. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've been down that road. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, we were. See, the thing is, is if somebody got in trouble, we all got in trouble.

If he did it, we got in trouble because we older and we let him do. So we all got it. I mean, there was a, there was a line. Did I say it on Joe? That's how I give me. Y'all don't want me to tell Papa is go caution. There was a, there was a, yeah.

The girl gets, the girl got suspended. Somebody got suspended from school? Huh? Oh, who got suspended? Oh. So you know why? Well, you may not tell Barney Porter you got suspended for school.

So they got to get on the bus. Just like they go into school. Get, so, and drop off and just walk around the whole. Walk around downtown. Until school. out, get back on the bus and come back home. Well, you had to pay for my, they had to pay for my secrecy.

Right. Oh, you don't pay. Oh, Joe. Hey, old show. Hey, hold on. How much? How much you charged? In 1975, 76th, January,

I should have killed him way back then because, brother, I had joking there. But it was just like you were in constant, it was like you were constantly nervous because, see, the thing was, is everything I did, I did with him. But he never got the punishment. Like, not one time.

Like, you know he did. I was just, but you let him do. So come in, because you, you let him. I was his response. How am I going to let him? Granny used to make him take, he wanted to go date. Granite said, you got to take. How am I going to keep him for second granny garden on five?

He's playing with imagine the wind blowing is 700 miles an hour we don't know what could happen but you're going to blame me so I'm walking around the truck because I'm trying to explain myself to him

because I don't deserve to beat down. See this is what happened so I'm walking around the truck my sister knows that the more my grandfather walked behind me to matter he gets so she's just like going to make the decision that I should just go catching,

holding so he can get this over with because the more he walk away, the heart is going to get worse. So you had to tell. I made me, I made good little come up. I had a good little hustle old show. Plus they were dating. You know, my aunt married though, she passed away. She was the one and she would always take me with her.

But she already knew large milk shape, cheeseburger fries, leave me in the car, when the half part down, I'm cool. She comes home with this piggy bank, well, it was a smiling face.

And so she would put the spare change that she came across in there, but it was for him. So, I should have killed him for the money back then,

but I didn't. There was, you know, And it's tragic in some ways. Just thinking about all, like we would get a gun. We would get the, you know, shotgun or the 12 gauge or the 30, 30.

And we would, hey, Granny, we're going hunting. She'd be like, y'all be careful. That was, that was the extent. Like every,

every gun we had in the house, to the guild. There was never, there was never, and it never darned on us. Like you hear kids, somebody had an accident. He told you,

no time. This ain't nothing to play with it. Dead is a long time. That's what he told. He said, hey, boy, dead is a long time. He said, so if you go messing with,

he has 45, his Army 45 on the seat. If you go, if you go messing with this right here, dead is a long time. Now, I ain't know what that meant, but I understood

that that gun was not to be touching. And when you talk about our guns being loaded, I'm talking about one in the chamber. We ain't, we ain't cocked. nothing. When we grab it, it's time to go to work.

Yeah, we ain't cocking. It's in the, it's one in the hole as we grew up. Then we were, we learned how to swim. We all got thrown in the same clay hole. Hey, yeah, I'm throwing you in, get yourself out. But that was the thing, Joe. It never dawned on us to go get a gun and play with it. Because he had our, first of all, if somebody told that somebody went and got a gun, you're going to die anyway. Well, I wish you were dead. Man, look here.

But when Papa died, the gun still was left because my Uncle James took some of them. But the guns were still loaded. I was 9, 10 years old, Joe. I go get the shotgun. I go get the rifle and go down there and try to kill squirrel and shoot the birds or whatever, whatever I could. At 9 10 years old, what 19 year old you know now

and go get a shotgun, go get a rifle, and just walk off and go shoot it. It depends on when you live. You got to be in the country. With nobody around. With the next house is miles away. That's about the only place. Yes.

Oh, and the chickens, oh, we got the trouble. Hey, they could have, they could have ruined me because I killed Papa Bard Rock. Whoa. Boy, they're throwing the rocks. But let me tell you something now. What, hey, I was ready to charge. Joe, I was ready to talk. My brother should have been a baseball player, Joe.

He should have been a baseball player because what. I was accurate with that ball. That was that rock joke. Yeah. Hold on, I got to tell the story. But one day we came up with the idea for entertainment. We in the road, our outside the house is dirt road.

So it's grass, you know, all the rocks. So, Oach, we come up with the thing. He about 30, 40 yards away. So we throwing rocks at each other. You know, we're trying to hit each other. But this is our entertainment, bro. This is our entertainment. Yeah.

So we try to hit each up. So I think once or twice I might have got him on the leg or on the waist. So we thrown probably six, 700 rocks trying to hit each other. So I'm down trying to pick up a rock. And you know how you get that the hairs on the back of that weird feeling? Joe, I looked up. It was coming in slow motion. With nothing I could do but take it.

Hey, it was one of the only times I ever quit a competition. It was one of the only times I ever quit a competition, Joe. I was like, man, I was trying to find, you know, you're trying to get that rock that you can get that index finger so you can get that spin. And I was down just looking for it.

When I looked up, it was like a slow motion. Hey. What nothing I could do. Joe, I could kill birds with a rock. They be sitting on a branch. Yeah. that joke had a that

that daisy air rifle how long I had that BB guns spakey 50 years old it's got to be 50 years old damn I'm saying it's got to be 50

I would have the bird lined up on the clothes line yeah it's got to be 50 I'm 61 it's got to be 50 years old it's got to be 50 years old but let me tell you hey Joe's about this

That was Andy Oakley and all the other great shots. That's one thing he can do with that BB gun, dog. If it was out there, he brought it. All coming back. I'm coming back with Blue Jays, Red Cardinals. Thank God there was none. Thank God there was none on the endangered species list because he was killing them all. You killed the Cardinals?

He was killing them all, dog. Everything. I was saying, would y'all eat? No, he was just putting them on the clothes line. No, no. I put them on the clothes line so they can see you. It's cute.

Trofen. Trofen. That's what I said, Joe. I'm a trophy on a joke. I'm a big name on a joke. Hey, the Cardinal, but that's one for free. Yeah, my brother had a bunch of them on the clothesline. And a bunch of the Blue Jays, a bunch of the Robbins.

He didn't know about it. Oh, Joe, I'm telling you, when I come back, I got my team. The Robbins, we used to call them, them old red belly Robin. Yeah, he used to have the clothesline. Yeah, they used to have the clothesline. You can eat a Robin, though, Ocho and Joe. You can eat a Robin.

Yeah. More big red belly, big fat ones? Yeah. That's another thing, too. I was trying to get a squir. I was trying to get quail, but I couldn't sneak up on a joke. That's another thing, too. He talked about all the stuff he ate.

I didn't partake in a lot of the stuff that he ate. Because I would, if, like, chitlins, I never ate a chitling. I've never had a chitlin in my mouth. After cleaning them, I was like, no, this is not going down that way. We're not doing that. Hog mall, pig cheese, pig feet.

I ain't ever, okay, raccoon, squirrel, I've never eaten a possible. I ain't never partaking that. I'm not. He boogey.

Okay, do without. Do you like the people across the river? Do without. Do without. Okay, I'll eat. Hey, Joe, I'm going to eat.

No, I ain't like no chillers. I ain't like no hog mall. But I eat some livers and life. I eat pig ears. I eat pigtail, pig feet. Nope. I'll eat collars.

I'm not eating mustard green. Nope. Not going to do that. I don't like root a bad girl. Joe, if I can't, wait, that's what I got to eat is that or corn flakes. I'll take the carnation instant milk. I will mix it in water and I will eat me some corn flakes. Yeah, but you ate that alligator turn.

I tried it. And I was like, yep, never. I promise God, never again. Now I do. Yeah. Alligator turtle. Oh, no. By big, a watch turtle.

Somebody, snap a turtle? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, y'all call the alligator. Yeah. Well, you got a saw shell, which is, I mean, his shell like leather is real smooth.

They streamline. Long got a long pointed nose. That's a saw shell, and then you got the alligator snapping turtle. Yeah. You got a tail like a, it got a red, got a mat like an alligator. How you cook it? How you cook it?

Hey, I don't take them out of the show. Hey, that's a conversation y'all need to have when I'm gone because I don't even know that. I don't even know. Yeah, we ain't eating that. Hey, and we go fishing, Joe, we go fishing. And we catch them because we're going to have to clean them. We throw the fish back.

Greatest you're going to your ass. I see y'all throwing the fish. Well, she must have called about 200 looked like in that bucket. But me and Shannon, me and Shannon were throwing them on the bank. Save yourself, fish and save yourself. They were floppy. tried to get back in that water grain was like, I know,

those ain't throwing them fish back. It shows what you. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody tried to clean all their down. I promise God when I left Georgia. I'm not cleaning another one. I'm not cleaning another one.

Mm-mm. Did we get together with our cousins and we came up with this bright idea that the little fish, we're going to bite the head off and throw them back in the water. What? You all got to understand.

It's entertaining. it man it was entertainment it was entertainment whatever you need to do to entertain yourself we did it so you bit the head of the fish off and threw it back in the water

yeah okay okay that's how it all started huh okay nah nah that's the that's the only fish I had in my mind don't see you go on you know hey listen I'm gonna keep a PG I'm we got we got OG on no he came out of the

water. Yeah, these hell you had them on the end of a hook. So, no, I see where you go on, but no, we ain't going there. I see where you go. We ain't going there. Yeah. But now, man. Babe man, thanks for stopping by giving us a few minutes of time, man. You good? You good, don't you need anything? I mean, you know, I'm retired, man. Old Paul Hustler, because you can some, you know, hey, Joe, I see, you know, I see the show Nightcap doing good. I was like, well, I think the show doing good and then they were like yeah i so joe going to be joining us i was like i i saw joe joining the show forever man you know and then i'm looking around his neck and i see jewels around his neck joe you know i see the i see jill see hey joe this what we used to have is right here we used to just

yeah we we that got stole when they broke in my house they stole it roped the hair bowed oh g that's what we used to have joe but but as you can see you know nightcap, club shade, doing real well. Oh, yeah. You know, I don't want to get rid of my 8-4 because this is the only I've had this since I got the first thing I bought when I got drafted.

But I like what brother got around the net. I don't want the chain. I just want what it costs. But the chain costs, I take the money, you know, and do what I want to do with it. Oh, yeah, he, hey, he come a long way from the farm, man. That man got patiques on

APs on. Hey, Joe. He got really good memory, but that joke ain't been back near the farm in about 400 years. I think we were all slaves last time. That joke was back then. Last time I've been home. Did you come back after Granny funeral? Probably 20, 2013, 2014 when Ki-R graduated, I stopped by. Yep, yep, yep.

Hey, we got to get out there, man. We got to go, you know, we got to go hunting that. I'm not going to. What I will do. I'll hunt away in my golf ball if I do get it out of the fair way. But that's about as much hunting as I'm doing. I ain't looking for nothing that day. Anything out there living in the wild, you good with me.

You are good with me. All right, man. Get some sleep. I know there's a big time difference, man. Get some sleep. Always, fellas. I appreciate y'all having. Pleasure.

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