Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc, Ocho & Iso Joe react to Commanders big trade + Micah Parsons drama continues
Episode Date: August 23, 2025Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Commanders’ big trade, the latest drama surrounding Micah Parsons, and Brock Bowers voted 24th best player ...in the NFL and much more! 03:02 - Commanders send Brian Robinson Jr to 49ers7:12 - Bengals org cheaper than a mug31:05 - Jerry still gaslighting Micah and us37:30 - Brock Bowers the best TE in NFL?!41:40 - Mike Vrabel on Ja’Lynn Polk’s injury status (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Commanders, Ocho, we talked about this the other night.
you know, we talked about like Brian Robinson, Jr.
Well, he's not going to play, blah, blah, blah.
I say, well, Ocho, I need to watch the game.
And once I watch the game, I'll be able to tell you,
is this a good move while they're doing it?
We watched the game and we came back.
Okay, I see why they're trading Brian Robinson, Jr.
The 49ers get Brian Robinson, Jr.
for a 6th, or 2026, six-round draft pick.
The 49ers room banged up.
Isaac Guerrero, James, Jordan James,
Corny Corrie Kiner and others have all missed time.
Christian McCaffrey, remember, Ocho,
he only played four games last season,
has actually been the healthiest running back in camp.
The commander's running back room now,
Austin Echler, Chris Rodriguez,
Bill, Crosky Merritt, Jeremy McNichles,
Demetrick Felton, and Casimir Allen.
You like to, I mean, for the 49ers,
it seems like a no-brainer.
I mean, all their damn runnybacks are
banged up,
Sam C-Mack.
I mean,
listen,
they had to,
they had to get somebody
and obviously
bring a veteran presence in
that can come in
and he's not,
he's not Christian McCaffrey,
but can run the ball,
obviously.
It was a,
it was a spot that was needed.
I think they're going to be all right.
Outside of that,
I'm still curious with it.
He can run and catch the Ocho.
He got good hands.
He can catch it out of the back field.
And that's what you need.
need to be in the 49th of
because you know
Kyle liked to run a lot of screens.
He liked to run a bubble.
Yeah, we're trying to say
the receiver position,
the receiver position.
I'm not sure if the
calls outside have been answered yet.
For the 49ers?
Yeah, for the 49ers.
You know, Brandon Ayuk is not back yet.
I mean, who's going to step up and be that number one?
Is it going to be Ricky Purcell?
Is he going to take that next step
and seeing himself viewed as a number
one receiver, I mean, that's still yet to be answered.
Number one receivers get number one coverage.
Hey, look, hey look, Anginocho, and you don't want to put too much on CMA.
You know, you want to try to keep him healthy throughout the season.
I think that's going to be the biggest key for them.
Well, absolutely.
Look, he's only so big.
I mean, he's probably 205.
You're asking a guy 205 to touch the ball 300 plus times.
Eventually, he might get through the season, but then the cumulative effect.
Now you got the, now you got postseason.
So he runs it 250.
You throw it to him another, you know, 70 times, Ocho.
So that's 325 touches.
Now, I'm not talking about the ones that, you know, he didn't catch the ball and he got hit anyway.
I'm not talking about the time that he got blocked, that he blocked, and that's a collision.
I'm not talking about the time he got tackled.
He landed on the ground.
That's a hit.
And the guy landed on top of him, or two guys landed on top of him.
So it's a cumulative effect of somebody.
He's not Derek Henry.
He's not.
He's not.
He's not Saquan.
He's not built.
Now, is he put together?
Yes.
But he's a compact or 200.
He's still 205 pounds.
And I mean, Emmett wasn't the biggest guy, but Emmett knew how to get down.
You didn't get no, you didn't get no clean shot on Emmett.
And then plus, you saw them 350-pound haul, he was running behind.
So by the time you realized it, he was.
already tear y'all down the field so you dragging him down you ain't getting no clean shot on him but uh
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lowest, the highest.
So whoever finished with the worst record would have first dibs on him.
This way I keep him out of the free agent market.
And I get the guy, okay, they said, okay, fine.
You want him?
Give a six-round draft pick.
So I like to move.
I like to move for the 49ers for the simple fact.
They're banged up in that position.
And I love to move for Washington.
They have an overflow at that position.
So something I was going to have to get rid of anyway, Ocho, I turn it into a draft
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There's this narrative that the Bengals are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL.
Hey, hey, hey, that narrative should be gone.
Have you seen?
Have you seen?
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, just after we, after we read this, I'm going to let you know, chat.
I will let the chat chime in and what y'all think.
Boomer Assison, I worked with Boone for 10 years, a decade at CBS,
called the Bengals out for making their legends, pay for their own flight,
hotel, and extra tickets to a ring of fame, a ring of honor game.
Boomer, one of the most decorated quarterbacks in Bengals history.
He's one of two Bengals players to ever win the MVP award.
and he took the team to the Super Bowl.
So Ken Anderson won the award.
Boomer won the award.
Ken took him to the Super Bowl.
Boomer took him to the Super Bowl.
So did Joe.
Boomer also has a game in which he's thrown for over 500 yards.
He's also in the Ring of Honor.
The team is offering for him to attend the event,
the Bringles Ring of Honor in late October,
to honor Dave Laffin and Lamar.
Lamar Parish.
Lamar Parish.
Okay. As part of the class of 2025. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Laugham and parish will bring the total number to 12. As part of the invite, Joe, check this out. Assizing gets two complimentary game tickets to sit in the stands, plus the option to buy another ticket. But rather than pay for assassins travel and lodging, like most teams would do.
The team said that they're paying, they're paying for a block of rooms at the Renaissance Hotel in Cincinnati and that Isyerson could stay there for a preferred discounted rate.
Assison had to RSVP by Friday in order to guarantee his seat for the game.
Uh, he later added that he believed he was expected to pay for his flight as well.
Now, I don't know how anybody, I don't, listen, I can only speak Joe.
I play for two teams.
I play for the Ravens.
I played for the Broncos.
Anytime.
Anytime they have something,
alumni weekend.
They have somebody being honored.
Somebody's going into the ring of fame.
Somebody's getting their Hall of Fame ring.
They will bring the alumni back.
Pay for them to come back.
Put them up at no cost.
They will have sweets so the players can go in there.
and have a good time.
But not the Bengals.
The Bengals say,
nah, y'all get out there
with the rest of the fans.
Well, I...
Sit in the rest of the fans.
I mean, you sit in the suites,
so that's, that...
That is what he said.
That's not what he said.
The alumni that come back
for the ring of honor
sit in the suites,
they don't sit in the stands.
So why would...
I'm telling me,
I didn't been all of them,
Monk.
We sit in the suite.
I don't know what Boomer talk about.
I went into the Ring of Honor with Boomer.
Those that are part of the Ring of Honor,
alumni have been back once already.
You sit in the suites.
You don't sit in the stands.
Now, as far as room and board goes,
I'm not sure that works.
I always stay at the A.C. hotel right on the banks.
Do you pay for that?
Or do they pay for it?
They have a...
Wait, wait.
Do they pay for it or do you pay for it?
It is a simple question.
I don't remember.
I don't remember.
You do remember.
Did it come off your credit card or did it come out of their credit card?
I don't remember.
I didn't book my stuff.
I didn't book my stuff.
You know, my baby.
Well, who booked it?
Baby.
She upstairs.
No, no, no, no, no.
At the time you were not with your baby upstairs.
So when you go back for function for the Cincinnati Bengals,
are you paying for it out of your pocket or are they compling,
comping everything?
They should be comping, man.
They should be comping, man.
That's what I'm saying.
Chat,
Chad.
Joe,
can I can let me finish this, Joe.
Chat, you see what he did?
He went all around that.
He did all that hunk of them bucket.
Hold on.
Hold on.
All in the find out that the Bengals don't pay for each.
So, so all the, all these, all these.
So y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, we spend all this money all season long
and we complain about buying it, buying a hotel room.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, Joe.
Don't do.
The team invited you back on, Joe.
You got an invitation.
How about this here?
When I went to the Hall of Fame,
when I went to the Hall of Fame.
Hold on.
Time my.
Joe, you at there on a $30 million property.
Um, you got $2 million in dogs.
And y'all completed by buying a hotel.
Hey, listen, listen, listen, listen.
Check this out.
Check this out.
Archinocho.
When Phoenix, any time they, hold up,
any time, hey, look,
anytime Phoenix has done something,
whether it was for a March, Stottomire,
whether it was for Steve Nash,
they invite all us back.
They pay for us to come.
that they pay us to be there.
Joe, when I
went to the Hall of Fame, Mr.
Boland, obviously I got
come, my brother was my presenter.
He said, I'll pay for 30 people
to come and put 30 people
up. He paid for the party.
When we came,
when I came to get my ring
for the hall, he paid
whomever you want to come.
We had a suite to ourselves.
when we have when we have the Super Bowl everybody comes back you plus one you we have a suite
as a matter of fact we have two or three suites and there's a get to get there's a golf event
but he flies you and a guest in I'm shocked I'm looking at this I'm like it can't be like
this for everybody the Ravens the Ravens when they invite me come
come back to stuff, I'm like, well, I might not be able to make it, but I need, you know,
I travel with my, uh, uh, my camera guy. Okay, he covered. Yeah. They make you, oh, we blocked it
off. Oh, Joe. Oh, hold on. Oh, yeah, they're locked it off with a discount rate, too. You need to,
you got to pay full price.
I know if the discount rate is free.
he ain't got to pay full price, baby.
What we're talking about, man?
What we talking about?
I understand.
I know, look, I had it special.
I know I had it special because when I would go back for events,
I didn't even stay,
I didn't even stay in the regular hotel.
I told Mr. B, I said, that was too,
I said, Mr. B, I'll pick up the phone and car.
I said, Mr. B, that's too far.
He said, 84, stay where you want.
We got it.
His secretary name was Lisa.
Send it to Lisa.
She'll take care of it.
Yeah.
anything with the Ravens, boom.
Hey, when, when, when I broke the record,
caught the most, when I broke Ozzy's record,
they flew my family in.
They flew my mom, my kids, my sister,
my homeboy, they did that.
I can't believe to be.
Oh my goodness.
Get up off us, man.
Get up off us.
Hey, they got too much.
They got too much.
Hey, get up off us.
They got too much money in that outfit.
Hey, let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
They said they invited you back.
Now, we can't pay for everything, but what we can do for you is we can discount you some room for you don't have to pay full price.
I'm glad you said that.
I'm glad you said that.
I ain't paying for it shells.
I'm going discount it.
I'm going discounted your airline.
I'm glad you said that.
That's what I got you.
You see.
You're right.
Hey, what, hey.
Hey, well, y'all, hey, well, ooh.
Ocho, come on now.
Chad, y'all heard it, chat.
Y'all heard Ocho.
Hey, let me, let me tell you something by us now.
We love, we love to pay full price when it's convenient and something we want to do.
But when it comes to other stuff, you invited me, Ocho.
When it come to other stuff, boy, I tell you, boy, about it.
Ocho, Joe, you what you were to, Ocho, remember we had the conversation?
about people charging people,
charging people to come to their wedding.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
You're like, I didn't pay.
You invited.
That's a no-no.
Now, that's a no-no.
Well, how do you go to invite me to the ring of honor
and then charge me?
What day?
Come on, Ocho, you know that ain't right now.
I'm not going to bull-javis day.
Listen, they have, listen, this is,
they have a way of doing their thing,
doing things.
That's the way they do their things.
You know, I ain't got,
I ain't got nothing to do with that, you know?
Oh, Cho, can ask your question.
So when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when,
when you guys come, when they come back.
I'm going in October. I'll be in October.
I'm a let you know about it's only 10 guys. You mean to tell me they can't
comp 10 guys to pick up 10 guys rooms? Hey, you know, 10 guys' rooms? That's, that's, that's,
that's 10 room, depending on how much a room is. They got to deal with the hotel, man.
They got to deal with the hotel, Ocho. I mean. In Cincinnati, first of all, you're not putting
anybody up at the four seasons you're not putting anybody up at the rich carlton you're not putting
anybody up at the intercontinental any of those fancy places like that so it's going to be a marriott
it's going to be a high it's going to be a nice hotel they said the renaissance in Cincinnati everybody
okay that's what it is that's what boom said the renaissance the renaissance i don't know the pricing
at the renaissance is i'm i'm sure it's the night it's in Cincinnati
250 tops whoa hey you hey look it up there hold on hold on
I was talking about, you getting real, like, real, real sassy talking about Cincinnati.
Like, Cincinnati is better than different.
What are you talking about?
What are we talking about?
Don't get them mistaken.
Listen, my city has grown exponentially over the years.
Have you been to Cincinnati?
Two hundred and six dollars.
Let me finish.
You've been, you've been, you've been, uh, in Cincinnati over on the banks.
You've been over there on the river?
No, have you seen the restaurants?
Have you, have you been now?
Have you seen the women?
They ain't got no chili.
Women in Cincinnati?
Huh?
Top top five in the world.
You hear me?
Joe, what you're like?
What?
What do you talk about?
Well, Cincinnati don't play, what?
You tell me, I'm sleeping.
Well, you do realize Jordan was born and raised in Cincinnati.
And Jordan is shaking his head.
Michael Jordan?
Yeah, I'm talking about my Jordan.
That's sitting here laughing.
Jordan ain't been in Cincinnati in so long.
He don't know what's out there.
He just got.
back off vacation in July.
Okay, well, he knows.
He knows. Let me take
Hey, Joe, let me take something
by Cincinnati, man. Listen, go ahead.
Got Paycourt Stadium, right?
Okay. You got E and O.
One of the worst in the NFL.
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful restaurant
right down the banks, right?
Condos,
apartments have gone up.
My dog, my dog got a funnel truck out there
called Funnel Cake Island. You hear me?
West Cincinnati,
It's been on a come up
and people don't realize it
because they think of Cincinnati
of the old. You hear me?
So you're saying if I go to Cincinnati now
I can catch a nice little vibe.
No, you go to Cincinnati tomorrow.
Boy, you're going to fall in love
and you'll move. You'll go get your property
out there. I'm telling you.
This man talking about a food truck.
Yeah. I'm talking
about Cincinnati in general.
Food, the people.
We got the best fans in the world, Joe.
What do you talk about?
Y'all ain't got it but 25,000.
25,000 what?
Fans.
Let me see.
Everything about Cincinnati is better than Denver and Baltimore.
And that's no disrespect to the city.
It's not even close.
Not even close.
That's no disrespect to the city and the fans.
10 guys, you got 10 guys coming back.
One of the guys that's coming back, well, first of all, the guy that's coming back,
he's in the ring.
His name is up in the stadium.
And y'all, in the room, Joe, is 200.
$106.
It's probably for one day.
It's probably one day.
Two hundred and six.
So you bring the guys in, I don't know how they do it.
But they would always bring us in on a Friday.
We have something Friday night.
Saturday, you have something during the day.
You have a golf event during the day.
You wake up.
They can feed your breakfast.
You get a bus over to the stadium.
They bus you to the stadium.
They got it laid out.
You got food and stuff.
Normal food that's in the suite.
They got that.
Then they take you back to the home.
You get back on the bus.
They take you back to the hotel.
You take your ass home money more.
He's doing that.
Well, I tell you what, I don't know about nobody else,
but Cincinnati take care of me, and I don't have to pay for nothing.
How about that?
How about that?
Ocho, Ocho, you got to make sure the former player's straight, bro.
Hey, Joe, Joe, Joe, yeah.
I ain't had to pay for nothing in Cincinnati since 2002.
So what y'all talk about, I don't know.
No, what boomer talking about because I, I wouldn't, we all, everybody know that cheap.
No, we just paid Joe Burrow of 55 million.
We just paid Jamar Chase north of 40.
We just paid T. Higgins 35.
You've been in existence.
You've been in existence since 1968.
You've been in existence since 1968.
So we finally paid three players in the last three years.
What about the other 54 years?
Hey, you have to evolve, huh?
Everything has to evolve all the time.
Boy, Chief.
Wait, let me finish.
Cheeseburger at McDonald's used to be 30 cents, Joe.
They used to be 30 cents.
Now they're $2.12.
Tell Joe where y'all practice at.
On the field.
Okay, where y'all feel at?
On grass.
Where the grass field at?
On the water.
Under an overpass.
So people can stop their park.
People can park their car.
Joe.
We practice.
Joe, we practice on the water.
Okay.
The water.
Hey, y'all ain't on the damn water.
Joe, Joe, it's a, hey, it's a beautiful breeze, a beautiful breeze.
It hits through the gate under the overpass.
And so it's, the breeze is always flowing while you practice.
So even when it's still, I can ride by and throw trash on the field, Joe.
I can ride by and throw trash on the field.
Hey, Joe.
Hey, Joe, let me take something.
Don't listen.
Don't listen.
Don't listen.
This is one of the most beautiful places
you can ever be, you can ever live
and I guarantee you, if you visit
If you visit there, you won't want to leave.
I promise you.
Ocho,
I promise you this, Ocho.
You can take this to the bank.
I won't tell you everything,
but I won't lie about anything.
You know me.
I'm going to get you know, that's for you,
that's for you.
Now, one thing about, Joe, you know when they're coming to me.
Yeah.
When they come to me,
I lie for both of y'all.
But I never lied to you.
Okay.
Okay.
No.
Okay.
You lied to us, though, recently.
About what?
Yeah.
We'll get into it.
Isn't that it not being cheap?
Yeah, we're not.
We're not.
We're not.
Hey, listen, one thing about it, when it comes to business, it's about longevity, on?
It's about longevity.
Not just forking it out because you can.
Not just poking out because you can.
Oh, Cho.
You make it seem like y'all got people, Ocho.
Y'all make it seem like y'all got people going into
to the ring of honor every year.
Y'all don't.
Y'all ain't got it like that.
Y'all ain't got no rich history.
Stop this.
What?
Hey, hold on.
You know who played in Cincinnati?
Oh, well, no.
Let me say, Joe, you know who played in Cincinnati?
You want to talk about rich history?
Do you know who played in Cincinnati?
I know.
I know all the great players that played in Cincinnati.
Yes.
One of the greatest to ever play in Cincinnati.
Rich history.
Oh, Lord, have mercy.
Joe, you know what I'm talking about, Joe.
Go ahead.
What a young fool?
Anthony Munoz.
Huh?
Wait.
Anthony Munoz.
Rich history.
Anthony Munoz ain't from no Liberty City.
Huh?
Well, Oshow played, it's just that it, but rich history.
Hey, listen, wait, hey, he might be funny.
He might be entertaining.
But you can't talk the story of wide receiver without his name.
for one of the greatest
how we talk about rich history
we don't know we're not trying to deny you your
respect and your rightful place
about my city like that
don't talk about my team like that
so you get in motion
your black ass from living city
you ain't from Cincinnati huh
y'all have you ain't from Cincinnati
your name allowed me to live my childhood
dream boy I'm from Cincinnati too
what you're talking about you're right there for the
poking beans you grew up in the poking bean
yeah that's me that's me that's me
Oh, yeah.
You know, you know I should be out there.
Pugh, pew, phew.
Hey.
But y'all wrong for that old show.
Hey, stole us out.
Oh, come on, nah.
Every team are already the same.
Okay, Mike Brown doesn't do what Mr. Boland did.
You know, that don't make Mike Brown.
Oh, no, now we got, what you call him?
Now we got Walton Pinnett.
So I know they're going to lay that thing out.
Uh, uh, Walt, uh, the, uh, the Walton Pender group.
The Walmart.
family? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's who owned the Broncos? Yep.
Oh, hey, hey, Mr. What's his name? Mr. What? The Walt Pinter Group.
Tell to, hey, if you see this, man, holl at your boy. I'm looking to get a line in Walmart.
Hey, hey, Ocho, then my people, man, I can put you in contact with them. What are you looking for?
I'm just trying to put an affordable line for my people in the world due to the economy
that the people can afford of luxury wear, affordable luxury wear in all Walmarts.
Yeah, I don't know of luxury and affordable go hand in hand.
That's oxymoronic.
That's oxymoronic.
Luxury and affordable.
You allow the man to make you think luxury isn't affordable.
Therefore, you've been brainwashed as luxury has to be.
be expensive, and that's what I'm trying to break, my brother.
Right.
No, it's the person that described luxury in the dictionary.
I don't know.
So you got to go way, way, way back.
That's the problem.
That's what the man is.
Luxury and affordable.
That's what the man has done to us.
He has put us in the box and thinking that luxury has to be affordable.
Therefore, it must cost a certain money.
No.
I'm trying to show you.
No.
I'm trying to show you luxury can look good.
for under $100.
That's like said, affordable housing.
Nobody expect affordable housing.
We expect affordable housing to be affordable.
That means a lot of the masses can afford it.
You're not trying to get something.
Is anything on Star Island affordable?
It depends on who you ask.
It depends on who you ask.
Oh, okay.
Oh, so you ain't know who you asked.
Affordable.
Star Island ain't affordable.
See, you're not listening to me, huh?
You're not listening to me.
My brother, I'm trying to take you outside the box and show you luxury can be more than one thing.
The reason why you put it in Walmart tells you everything you need to know.
So name something that goes in Walmart that people consider luxurious because they buy it.
Let me tell you some.
Let me tell you.
Hold on.
I'm going to get you.
I'm getting together right now, Joe.
I'm going to get together right now, Joe.
Go ahead.
you want to know something
that is of luxury
that goes in Walmart, right?
Yes.
Now, ask me the question.
Ask me the question.
Tell me something that goes in Walmart.
That's luxury.
Go ahead. Ask me the question.
What's luxurious in Walmart?
Me.
You ain't in there yet.
I will be.
Now, look, Walmart does.
I think Walmart, Walmart and Costco sell diamonds.
I think they got $100,000, $200,000 in there, right?
And Walmart and Costco?
I know Costco.
I know, yeah, yeah.
But I'm, but I'm, but I'm saying.
There's, but Walmart normally when you think of Walmart,
people go to Walmart, they're like, Walmart costs, you buy it in bulk.
You ain't, you're not trying to go spend $200 on a sweatsuit.
You know what I'm saying?
So you, when you go in.
there is like Shaq. Shack sold his shoes. They were affordable. 20, 40, I think the highest
pair was maybe like, what, $30? That's different than you said, okay, I'm going to be in
foot locker or I'm going to be in Nike town or I'm going to be at shoe palace. So that's
all I'm saying. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. But I'm just saying
when you say luxurious and affordable. That means to me or someone who shops at Walmart.
for so
where's the clothes at Walmart
matter of fact
I got one for you
right now Joe
and I bet you people
in the chat
don't even know
about this
what?
You too,
unk
because you might like you.
What do you got?
Have you seen
the avias
that Walmart
sale
that look like
New Valance?
I have.
I have seen them.
You know,
Avia?
Avia.
Yeah,
avia.
The avias,
yeah.
Avia.
Yes, Avia.
Yeah.
I've seen in the AID
I don't know what you're saying
too.
Yeah, man, Joe.
Boy, Joe,
I got the blue pair and it got a white pair with the neon green lining, Joe,
and the white pair with the blue lining, Joe.
But, hey, yeah.
Actually, I did a, I did a speaking engagement up in Benton'sville at the Walmart
headquarters for about 3,000 people.
Yeah, many years ago, Joe, you probably within, this had to be 2000 and, this had to be
like 2000, 2001.
Oh, Joe, you know, all that's up there where I went to college yet, man, the University of
Arkansas.
For real?
And we call Bud Walton Arena because it's after the
Walmart, after the Walton's.
Yeah.
I listen, I'm glad you're not.
They put, they're the one that put five and dime out of business.
You see this?
The five and ten sit store.
This is why relationships are so important.
See?
Funk played there.
Joe, know the people.
Y'all going to put me in connection.
I got a vision and I wouldn't have been able to make this,
this vision happen without the connection in the
fly fire y'all.
That's what I tell people all the time.
The number one thing in business is relationships.
People think it's brains.
No, it's about relationships.
Because you never, because here's the thing,
you never know that person
that used to sweep up this and sweep up that
or did this, that was a lower level.
He or she the moved up the ranks.
Anyway,
speaking of Arkansas natives,
Jerry Jones doubled down on Michael Parks
today. We got him.
for three years no matter what.
Michael Parsons with the team's final
preseason game tonight.
Someone in the tunnel shot of,
Michael, come to the Falcons.
Michael responded.
May I know Matt Schaubb
and Canada, check this out.
Matt Schaubb, a Canada for NFL
executive director, wants the union
to file an immediate grievance
against Cowboys Jerry Jones
for negotiating directly with Michael Parsons.
Which you should not be doing.
No.
He tried.
But see, what he's trying to do, Elcho, here's the thing, though.
What he's trying to say, I'm the general manager also.
But it's what the appellate court said.
The appellate court said, even though Roger Goodell says, I'm going to be the arbitrator.
He's saying, where's the hint of fairness in that?
Jerry, even though you say you're the general manager at the time,
he's still the owner.
And you can't negotiate directly.
So you're going to have to remove yourself.
Jerry's saying he can wear both of them hands.
Listen, Jerry played by his own set of rules.
He does.
But they've allowed it.
Owners in general, when you got that kind of money,
when you got that kind of power and backing and wealth,
you can play by your own set of rules.
Matter of fact, when you had that kind of money,
you're the owner of the team, you're the GM of the team.
You can make those set of rules.
And you can do some of the things you're doing.
When you're the most profitable franchise like the Dallas Cowboys are
and they've been run a certain way,
for a very long time, you can make your own rules,
which is why you can walk around and talk the way he talks.
And there's nothing anybody can do about it.
That works if you have one.
You can't have three or four of those.
It works because Jerry is the only one.
All the other owners are in the collective bargain agreement.
All the other owners adhere to the policies and regulations
of what you can have one.
When, when back when in the 70s and 80s and 90s, it was Al.
Al Davis was the Maverick.
He was the renegade.
Jerry Jones sat at the feet of Al Davis and learned all that Al knew.
So he's the new.
He's the modern day Al Davis.
It works as long as you got one.
You start getting two, three, four.
It's not going to work.
But I agree with Matt Shaw.
Because he's what Jerry's trying to do.
He's trying to say, but I'm the general manager.
But as the appellate court said,
to Roger Goodell, I understand that you're the arbitrator,
but you still, but you, but you still the commissioner of the league.
And you want, you want to be able to hear this argument and decide.
But you said, well, I'm the arbiter.
No, but I still know that you're the, you're the commissioner of the NFL.
So, Jerry, I understand that you say you're the general manager,
but you're still the owner of the team.
So where is the hint of fairness?
Hey, think about that real quick, Joe.
Joe think about that Joe what's that you know what I mean on you plan for the Broncos
Joe you plan for the Hawks and the owner come straight to you on knowing you don't know
you know about money you know by that part but when it comes the contracts they bring you the
contract got damn contract this big yeah contract this big to my go ahead and read through
that.
Yeah.
Man, come on, man.
Stop playing, man.
Honestly, it's somewhat insulting,
you know, no disrespect to
Micah Parsons. It's somewhat insulting if the owner
coming, trying to undermine you, trying to undermine
not only Michael Parsons, but undermine
the agent as well, because
they know there's certain things, there's certain languages
that Mike is not going to know or
understand that he's not going to be able to see
in something that big.
Right. I want the people that have
ever seen an NFL contract, huh?
They don't look like a goddamn pamphlet.
Could ask you a question, don't Joe?
Joe?
Do y'all think Jerry Jones have personal attorneys?
Yes.
Absolutely.
So why would, why wouldn't he, why wouldn't he negotiate directly with someone else when he has a attorney, when he has an attorney?
Does he do that?
Well, only with, see, Jerry is willing to negotiate only when he's in an advantageous situation.
See, when somebody is on the other side,
that's in an advantageous situation.
He sends his lawyers in to do the negotiating.
Now he feels that he's in an upper hand.
Now, I don't believe this.
A lot of people, you know, he feels he has the upper hand.
He can slick talk.
Now, I've got to have these escalator clauses and block.
Okay, it's something, you know, I need all that in there.
I can double dip because, hey, if I release you, you go side with another team,
or that offset some of the money.
I still, no, no, no, no, no.
It don't offset nothing.
I'm going to get every dime that you owe me
and I'm going to go over here and get some more money.
All that needs to be included, don't you?
Yeah, that's too much.
All that needs to be.
The moral clauses, all that need to be going over
with a fine teeth coat.
The players don't know all that.
The players don't know all that, you know.
The players who we want to know,
what are my guarantees?
I don't care about, I don't pay, I don't think about the big number.
What are my guarantees?
What am I getting those first three years?
That's my meat of potatoes outside of the final bonus.
Yep.
That's what matter.
Hey, when I put my name on this contract, what kind of check about looking at?
Okay.
It's it over the day, like what you're saying, over the next three years,
how much money am I actually going to get of that big gargantuanian number?
Of that one billion dollars over the next three years, how much am I?
naturally. Okay, let's go play. Hey, listen. I mean, obviously, you know, when you chat,
you see things scroll across the ticket at the bottom of the screen, you know, you see five-year
$280 million, you know, that $280 million, you know, that $280 million, you know, that is
the crust to the pie. That's the crust to the pie, Joe. That ain't really the number.
Them first three years, that's all that matter. I need to know how much.
That is.
They're not letting you get to the back end to reach anywhere.
And then no goddamn 280.
I don't care who you.
Unless your contract like Deshawn's.
2.30.
Guaranteed.
Okay.
Hey, don't he got the same agent to Sean got?
Yep.
Hey, listen.
Moologetta.
I feel like it's going to get.
I put that joke at Ocho, his name is Moola Geller.
Moola.
Moola.
Yeah.
Moola.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Hey, listen.
man we can't go in to philly on thursday night without michael man ain't no way i look jerry got to get this done man
he got to get this i feel like it's going to get done uh but it's going to be in the last hour guys
it ain't going to get no cheaper it look he got it he's going to spend it you're going to get no cheaper
uh uh brock bow was was voted the 24 best player in the NFL the number one tied in
George Kittle was number 31.
Travis Kelsey was number 37.
Terry McBride was number 65.
Sam LaPorteur was number 94.
Bowers' rookie season.
He had the most catches, 112, 1194 receiving yards, and five touchdowns.
I think the first two are the most for a rookie, correct?
Because only two rookies have ever had over 1,000 yards receiving.
Mike Dicker had it and Kyle Pitts had it.
But I don't think either one of those had 1194.
And I know neither one of those had,
because I think he broke,
I think he broke Pookin' The Cool's record.
And then neighbors,
I think neighbors had 108 catches this year.
But the most catches for a rookie Bowers,
most receiving yards by rookie tight end,
1194.
Yo, Joe, Joe, do you think it's too soon
to call Brock Bowers the best tight end in football?
I mean, oh.
Oh, he's so goddamn good, unk, man.
Most of the time, there's a,
there's a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a process.
He took the words out of a Bible, Joe, yep.
And he went from Georgia, came to the league, and they miss a beat.
He should have came out.
They should have let him come out of a freshman.
He was that good.
That made that man wait too after year for what?
Nice.
nice now he's up next obviously Travis Kelsey George Kittle I mean
Laporta Hawkinson but he's he's different he's different
he's different he's different he is um I got to go on year it's hard for me
to give it to a player after one year but if he puts together I'm not saying he needs
a hundred and twelve i'm not saying he leads he needs 1200 receiving yards i'm not saying he needs
13 14 touchdown he just needs another year of consistency of the same thing but listen
you know his quarterback is right yes uh oh uh you know his quarterback got an arm you know
quarterback is going to feed you should and please rock rock is going to have a hundred plus
catches. He's going to have another
thousand plus yards.
Ain't no telling how many TDs.
Yeah, because I don't know if they got,
they don't really have the, the wires, they don't have
the one, they don't have the chase, they don't have
the Jetta, they don't have that guy,
caliber guy outside of him. He is
that in the Raiders offense.
So he's going to get the most targets.
He's going to get the most opportunities.
But I looked at the kid as a freshman.
I said, this kid can play in the NFL.
now he that good he was that good he just bought his time i mean hey i'm sure he enjoyed the
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Patriot head coach Mike Brable was asking about a comment on Jalen Polk will require season
injury shoulder surgery.
Let's listen to what Vable Vrable response was.
There's a report today that Jalen Pope will have to have season ending shoulder surgery.
Can you add anything to that?
No.
I don't know.
Other than I'd like to find out where some of these come from, you know, some of these rats around here.
so we'll figure that out.
You see, hey, now we see everybody, who said that, who said that?
They don't just be making this stuff up.
I know y'all be trying to name your source, name your source, name your source.
No, they don't make that up.
Owners, head,
coaches, general managers, player personnel, position coaches, players.
That's how Adam Schefters stay in business.
That's how Shams stay in business.
The agents, that's how they get that information.
Y'all get mad.
Y'all, y'all get mad.
Y'all don't get mad at the people for telling them.
Y'all get mad at Shepter and Sean for reporting it.
The first thing they always say, especially the fans, state your source.
Right.
State your source.
Well, who said it?
Well, duh, if they state the source, they would.
would never be able to get information anymore.
No, you're done.
So just go ahead and turn your pen and say, hey, hey, ESPN, I'm done.
I'm no longer in business doing that.
You heard what he said.
So now, chat, ain't nothing wrong with it.
Now you heard what he said.
He would like to know who the radios.
So somebody told a reporter because the reporter stood up their point blank and asked
about season end of shoulder surgery.
He should know about it.
The reporter shouldn't know about that.
nothing
the matter of fact
they'd be reporting
now I'm not saying that someone
but like
when chef did them be coming
nine times out of 10-0-cho
oh they got that from somewhere
they got that from somewhere
yes
people around the league
no people in the league
ain't around the league
they're around it they in it somebody talking
sources in the NFL
the league office
that's just the way it wasn't too long
I was reading some of the stuff
we talked about last night with the Shadoor
I'm not not going back on the Shador thing
right now I'm just saying in general
and some of the comments throughout today
are people on my timeline
reacting to what we're saying
and what Ed said what Eric Digginson said
and people like
all that's impossible why would the NFL
care I mean
but this I mean they come up with all these
different solutions. And it goes back to me in people underestimating how powerful the NFL is in
general, how they just see it in just a football game, and how they don't understand that the
shield is one that remind people. Let me, let me say this again slowly. The shield in the
NFL is one that will remind people in any way, shape, form of fashion. Nothing will be bigger than our
program.
Nothing will be bigger
than our program.
People are that they're so blind
to it and don't understand the power
that those individuals
as a whole possess
is ridiculous. Even when I was
playing, huh?
Let me, hey Joe, let me tell you something, Joe,
even when I was playing,
I understood the power
that be of the shield, so I understood
I know I can play a little bit.
Joe?
Yeah, but not too much.
I knew I could play around a little bit.
Cat, y'all stay with me.
But I understood what lines not to cross.
Uncle, I understood the game very early.
I understood my time in NFL that won't be that long.
I have a small window of opportunity to have some fun, to make some money,
but there's certain lines that cannot cross.
But at some point, in the long run, I'm going to have to cross that bridge.
it again.
Some of them.
Color in between the lines,
Joe.
Color in between the lines.
Hey, Joe,
Joe, listen,
Joe, let me tell you something.
How well I'm at playing the game.
And Joe,
I can say the chat,
stay with me real quick.
Some of the things I'm got,
some of the things I have got going on right now,
all these goddamn jobs
and all these goddamn opportunities,
there are certain buttons
that are being pushed behind closed doors.
That you can't see.
Joe, come on, Joe.
there's certain buttons being pushed behind closed doors.
Man, come on, man.
Don't make me start.
Hey, no, no, no, no, Ocho.
I feel, don't make you start tonight.
Hey, hey, hey, I understand.
I understand, man, listen.
When, hey, it's, I understand about the buttons being pushed behind closed doors.
There's people working for you, and you don't even know it.
Well, you don't, don't even know it.
Yeah.
That's why you don't burn no bridges.
Yeah.
That's what everybody talks about.
do this and do a that and out of did this and not a did that okay it's worth you leave like you
came you came with your dignity you leave all that yelling and screaming hey well nobody was harmed
in the making of that movie but at the end of the day there's been speculation that
pope was going to be cut or trade candidate with all 32 teams needing a set 53 man roster
by 4th Eastern on August
to 26th.
Who would benefit from leaking
injury of a player more than the player himself
who may not want to be leave or traded?
Well, you can't trade a player if he's cut.
I mean, if he's injured, you have to offer him
an injury settlement.
So he's straight.
So they can't trade him if he.
No, you can't cut an injury.
You have to offer him an injury settlement.
You can't do it in basketball, and I ain't know
how football work.
But we've seen players get
injured, I could have swore I saw stuff
where players that got injured, they get cut right
away, especially in training camp. I could
have swore I saw that, no?
They get a settlement.
Well, at least the reports could say
a settlement was the receiver
instead of a player with time.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
I have a question.
Is there a certain amount,
a set amount for injury settlement?
I guess
how long is going to, I mean,
that's something you, the agent would
be work out probably the length of time if it's gone for the season you're like no I want
my money but maybe what a million two million it all depends I think he's like a second year
player right he's a second year player so he's it mean it was his 800,000 a million dollars
right now they're like okay they probably they probably eat that Ocho right okay okay okay
is when you get into the situation like a Christian Wilkins you're getting guys
making 13, 15, 20.
Now it becomes a problem.
I have a question.
Or Joe, in basketball, Joe, they do what they call a buyout.
Okay, I'll give you 85%.
I'll give you 90% of your money.
They don't do that in football?
Hell no.
Hold on.
They cut you.
They say you're about your way.
Don't know.
Yeah, they get you up out of there.
Unless you got, like Russ.
The Broncos cut Russ.
They say, okay, they gave Russ all his money.
I'm saying, but it's not because no, not a lot of people have like that big guaranteed money.
Yeah, if you got guaranteed money, you don't care.
Russ had 38, what, 30-something, 35, 36 million coming from the Broncos.
So it wasn't nothing to go to take the two million from the Steelers.
I got 40 million.
I don't care where, how is div it out.
I got it coming.
But a lot of guys ain't got that guaranteed money.
so
that's because
you know
football a gladiator sport man
yeah
every play could be them
their career ending play
hey that's why you got to be built
like this out there Joe
okay I see you've been in jail
I'm Jake Hofer and this
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each episode I'll be asking
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Folks, find it hard to hate up close.
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You know, you hear our story, how we grew up,
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Get fired up, y'all.
Season two of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway.
We just welcomed one of my favorite people
an incomparable soccer icon
Megan Rapino to the show
and we had a blast. Take a listen.
Sue and I were like riding the lime
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Wee!
People ride bikes because it's fun.
We got more incredible guests like Megan in store
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