Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to all of the Upsets in College Football

Episode Date: October 6, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson can’t believe all of the upsets that occurred today! Arkansas takes down Tennessee, Vanderbilt shocks Alabama, Minnesota beats the Trojans and much mo...re!03:18 - Show starts06:00 - Razorbacks upset Tennessee14:10 - Vanderbilt upset Alabama30:31 - Texas A&M upset Mizzou34:06 - Minnesota upset Trojans41:10 - Huskies upset Wolverines44:37 - Ashton Jeanty48:40 - Money Moves(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:22 an upset down in Fayetteville, World's suing the Razorback, get their first AP top win at home since 1999. Tennessee quarterback, Nico, whoo, E.R. Amale? E.R. Maleva. Hey, Nico, I don't know what you was thinking. When you got the ball, it was six seconds on the clock. Ocho, we're not gonna be as harsh as if he was a professional player,
Starting point is 00:07:51 but that was a pop Warner move. Why the hell would you run out of bounds with no time on the clock? Bro, throw it in the end zone. Who cares if it get picked? You gotta give your guy an opportunity, Ocho. Yeah, you gotta give him a chance, especially in that in that case. You only got six seconds to go.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I think he didn't want to throw a pick, not knowing that you got to throw that out. You got you got to give somebody a chance to make a play, especially at the end of the game. And there's no time left on the clock. Oh, Joe, guess what? Guess what else he hadn't thrown a touchdown. So he was just as likely to throw a touchdown as he was in interception,
Starting point is 00:08:27 considering he hadn't thrown either one. So there's a 50-50 chance in that situation, you throw a touchdown, you win. You throw the interception, you lose. But guess what happens 100% of the time if you run out of bounds in that situation? You lose. 100% of the time, If you run out of bounds
Starting point is 00:08:46 with no time on the clock and you're trailing on the scoreboard, you lose. Yeah. I don't get it. I don't get it. He's a quarterback of a power five school. You have to be a fair intelligence You have to be a fair intelligence to process information recall. I get it. A lot of, a lot of teams, I'll show that just hold it to play and the play is what it is. It's not like you regurgitating what you hear come through the headset, like in the NFL, but I'll show you. You got to know that you can't do that. You got to know that we can't, we can't blame college.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I mean, at any point on any level, you know, if it's six seconds on the clock, you got to put the ball in the end zone and give your team a chance. You got to. Or at least an opportunity. You got to. You got to, man. Come on, bro. But give Arkansas credit. Hold on. Huh? For one, they didn't even have to be in this situation. They had four quarters to get a goddamn job done now. So we can't talk about just the one play at the end where he made.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I hate using the word bonehead, but that's what my coaches just say. When I used to make mistakes like this, that was a bone play, Ocho. It was. I mean, you got you got you just got it. You got to make you you have to have to see that football IQ, that situational awareness. If I run out of bounds, we guarantee to lose. Yeah. OK, Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, you throw it to the end zone. They PI guess what? You get another play and you get it at a two yard line.
Starting point is 00:10:10 So y'all you even closer. He took all the, all the probabilities, anything that possibly could have happened good, bad or different. He ran out of, he took that on his back and ran out of bounds with it. Yes sir. Yes sir. Yes, sir. But this is a learning experience for him because this opportunity or this chance might come again at some point later on in life and it's maybe, maybe not college.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Maybe, maybe NFL. You never know where he decides to play at the next level. It's going to come again. It's going to rise again. And he won't make that same mistake. Boy, if you can't you imagine had he done this in the NFL, he would not be able to go home. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You with no, also with no time on the clock, you're down five points and you run out of bounds with no time on the clock and you don't throw it to the end zone. You don't try to fumble it for you. Don't do nothing. You guaranteed like, you know what? He's like, you know what Arkansas,
Starting point is 00:11:04 I'm gonna let y'all lead with the win. My name is, you know what? He's like, you know what? Arkansas, I'm going to let you all leave with the wind. You know, my name is right. I'll what is hello. Hello. As you got to say, he are my labor. Ema, a labor, Ema, a labor. You say, well, I believe you're with a loss. And you know what the funny. You know the funny thing about today's games is I looked at the schedule. I looked at the schedule for the game today and I said to myself, you know, well, damn,
Starting point is 00:11:38 looking at the schedule today's collegiate games are going to be boring based on the slated games that I saw. I was like, well, all the teams that are ranked are basically going to win the game that, win the games that they're playing against their opponents. And hell, man, it was completely different. It was completely different than what I expected. For those that gamble or bet on these games,
Starting point is 00:12:02 I know you got to be pissed. You got to be pissed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody. Everybody caught the air. Because I know for certain you took Alabama over Vanderbilt. Oh, yeah. Over Vanderbilt. Yeah. But don't show this is why people love football because this one game is not a series. You play baseball, you play a basketball or you play. It's the best two out of three.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It's the best three out of five. It's the best three out of five. It's the best four out of seven. But in football, it is not a series is one night. And see, the thing is, is that, you know, I can have a bad night in basketball because look at Michael lost game one of his first NBA finals. They came back and won four straight. Had that been football, it's over. Somebody else went into the Super Bowl. Somebody else went into the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:12:45 somebody else went into the national championship. That's why people love football so much, because on a given night, the best team don't always win, but the team that plays the best will normally win. But think about it. Think about some of the teams that lost tonight. Think about when Tennessee was ranked at the highest. So Alabama was ranked at number one and number two,
Starting point is 00:13:07 you know, back in the days where they have, when Saban was there. How often do you see a team that's ranked high lose? Or when Florida, the Florida States and the Florida's and the University of Miami used to dominate and they were ranked real high. Like the chances of them losing the game like this, the teams that are that are
Starting point is 00:13:25 unranked, you got that slimmed it. Understand that this is a conference. Times have changed. Vanderbilt plays in the conference with Alabama. Arkansas and Tennessee are conference rivals. Yeah, Texas A&M in Missouri, the conference rival. Now Washington and Michigan. I don't think it's Washington and the big team or is it just UCLA and USC?
Starting point is 00:13:46 The Washington didn't make the trip, did they? Oh, look at USC in Minnesota. So the thing is, there are a couple of times a year, cause I remember Alabama had to go by a block field goal, Tennessee, in order to win a national championship or they was about to lose and not go to the SEC championship game. So we've seen things like this happen before.
Starting point is 00:14:10 But something but normally the the the higher seed, the number one or number three, number 14, they find a way to pull it out at the end. And they just had a scare. But what happens, Ocho, is that when you give a team like that and you go to the fourth quarter, it's over. And they end the game. They end the game. My grandparents always say, boy, killing that with a sledgehammer.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You doing all of this, he going to come back. He going to come back and annoy you. And that's what happened. Tennessee, number four, Tennessee gets knocked off by unranked on the road. If you think about it, all that a lot of these teams that lost, they were on the road. Well, they were on the road. Alabama was on the road. Tennessee was on the road. USC was on the road.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Mizzou was on the road. Michigan was on the road. That's five. Now, there could be more, but that's five that road that lost. So Tennessee, the number four, number four team in the country gets knocked off on the road by the Razorbacks 1914. That has to feel good. Jerry is extremely happy about that.
Starting point is 00:15:14 The biggest upset of the day, Vanderbilt 40, Alabama 35, longer bottom feeder. Vanderbilt was six, zero and 60 all time versus AP top five team before today. It's the longest such streak in the pole era. The pole era started in 1936. The Commodores hadn't beat Alabama in 40 years on the field in 40 years, 1984.
Starting point is 00:15:43 The 23 game Luger streaked Alabama. This first win against B years, 1984. The 23 game Luger Street, Alabama. This first win against Bama since 1984. Vanderbilt goalpost traveled three miles. It was dumped in the Cumberland River. Fire department dug it out. From tearing down, it ended up in the river. It only took Vanderbilt's fans a little over an hour to get that goalpost three miles
Starting point is 00:16:04 to dump it in the Cumberland River. Nick Saban put forward at the Commodores two weeks early on the back of the show saying the only place in the SEC that's not hard to play at is Vanderbilt. There's no disrespect for them, it's just the truth. Vanderbilt had some fun with the quarterback of the game and played Saban's quote on the loud speaker. Ocho, Alabama goes down 40 to 35, the number one, the number one team in the country after they took down the number two team, Georgia Bulldogs, who hadn't lost the regular season game and almost three years.
Starting point is 00:16:39 But today Vanderbilt, I've never seen anything like this. So Joe time of possession, 42 minutes and six seconds to 1754. I've never seen that lopsided of a time of possession. Now, I'm not saying it hadn't happened, but I'm just saying I hadn't seen. Go ahead. You know what? You know why it's happening? I'm trying to understand and figure out where is Alabama's defense.
Starting point is 00:17:01 They continue to disappear. Offensively, they play well. They play well in spurts and then they disappear for a little bit and allow the team to get back in. When they played Georgia, they had a significant lead and the defense allowed them to come back and get in the game. Today, when Alabama defense needed to stop, they couldn't get a stop. Huh? They couldn't stop all day. I was hoping they would get a stop on the kids. I was hoping I was hoping they would get a stop just so they can get the ball back again and see if brother Miro could take the boys down and score so they can pull this one off today. If you think about the old show on what the third play of the game, second play of the game,
Starting point is 00:17:35 he throws a pick six is a fluke. He picks it. The ball caroms up in the air. The guy picks it off. He got stripped sack. The guy did a great play. He got him dead to right. It's not good enough to just just get the sack. Ocho. He strips the ball out of
Starting point is 00:17:49 his hand. Great awareness from him. But the thing was, Ocho, Vanderbilt was 12 of 18 on third down. I don't know if I've ever seen that many third downs. Do you know how hard it is to get the 18 third down? Let alone convert 12 of them. hard it is to get the 18 third down let alone convert 12 of them. 12 of them yeah most definitely. There were 12 of 18 on third down one of one on fourth down and when you dominate time of possession two and a half to one let that sink in on your two and a half to one time of possession Alabama couldn't get the ball back so even though Alabama was scoring, Williams made another circus catch. He was unbelievable again. But when you get the ball back,
Starting point is 00:18:30 because it's not like Vanderbilt was scoring, but they're taking six, eight minutes off the clock. Sorry, every time. And so they got the quick score. They was like, okay, you got two timeouts, oh Joe, you got two minutes and 38 seconds. And they got keep quick score. They're like, OK, you got two timeouts. Oh, Joe, you got two minutes and 38 seconds. Mm hmm. And they got keep getting beat. They ran out. They ran.
Starting point is 00:18:50 They ran the flow pass and they run the shovel. Anytime they got in trouble on third down in Alabama, couldn't stop. They made no joke. They work every time and they work every time. You know, I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know if adjustments weren't made. But obviously, at some point, coaches have to see somebody has to say something. Whoever the spotter is up there in the goddamn booth, call down, listen, they
Starting point is 00:19:10 doing the same thing over and over and over every time they get in a third down situation, make adjustments and you play ball. Yeah, bro. Your quarterback opens up. He goes, did you lose side of the time with number nine, the wire receiver? He runs like a lag and you have the back, it goes like he's going to flat, and the quarterback shovels to him, he turns it up,
Starting point is 00:19:29 he's picking up first down, he's picking up big major yards. And then they run the flow pass. The guy to the flat, like, zero, that's the guy. That's your guy. Why you, where you going, bro? Eyes in the backfield. Eyes in the backfield, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Eyes in the backfield. Alabama goes down, the number one Eyes in the backfield. Eyes in the backfield, Ocho. Eyes in the backfield. Alabama goes down the number one team in the country on the road against the Vanderbilt Commodores. Normally the guys at Vanderbilt, they're probably gonna be more apt to be financial advisors. They're gonna probably be, not a whole lot of guys end up in the NFL, but hey, today they were better than Alabama, Ocho. Yeah. I got, I got one more question.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You probably know that, um, when it comes to the rankings a little better than I do. And even though Alabama lost now, what does that mean for their ranking as far as being number one in AP poll? Does that change? They're not being number one. Texas probably move up to number one cause they're the number two seat. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:25 The question is how far will they drop? They did lose to it, but here's the thing, Tennessee, right? They lost to an unranked team. Uh, uh, uh, uh, USC, they lost Michigan. Number 10. They lost. Oh yeah. Uh, uh, Mizzou was number 10.
Starting point is 00:20:41 They lost to an unranked, what Texas in there, well, I think was number 25. So they lost. So the question what Texas in there, I think was number 25. So they lost. So the question is how far does everybody drop? Now. Do you think Alabama dropped far is simply because it is Alabama? Yeah, because it's an unranked team, that's Vanderbilt. Yeah, but I'm saying, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:00 that committee, they be playing around when it comes to certain teams now. But here's the thing, you got 12 teams this year. It's not a death sentence. Probably, had they, this is the regular format where you're only taking 14, this probably would have been a death load. But because you're taking 12 teams, it's not life or death.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Now, you can't have any more slip ups. Now you still got Ole Miss, you still got Auburn, you still got LSU on your schedule. Woo woo woo woo. So Alabama, Vanderbilt 26 first downs, Alabama 17. Alabama was three of seven on third down. Vanderbilt was 12 of 18. That'll get you beat.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Both quarterbacks threw it well, 18 to 24. For Jalen Milro over 300 yards, 310 yards passing. Vanderbilt was 12 of 18, 252 yards passing. So, but the difference was Vanderbilt had 54 carries for 186 yards. When you run the ball 54 times, you're gonna dominate the time of possession because clock is gonna tick, tick, tick, tick, tick,
Starting point is 00:22:08 tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. It's so funny. I think today, as far as ranked teams are concerned, today was the day of upsets. Not only did Alabama, Michigan, USC, and Tennessee lose, obviously Alabama as well. I mean, the UM game is going on right now and Cal is beating number eight ranked UM 21-10.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Like I don't, and it can't be because everybody's playing away. I mean, I understand home field advantage, but not by that much. We're turning up the heat on the newest episode of All the Smoke. Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris pulls up to the show to discuss her historic presidential run. Most people have
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Starting point is 00:26:51 You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiral'd on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's different, Ocho. It's different. You got to deal with college kids. A lot of times the moments, the lights get bright. They're not used to being in that environment. And look, Alabama came off. That's an emotional win last week, Ocho. You take down the Georgia Bulldogs who hadn't lost in almost three years, a regular season game. You take them down.
Starting point is 00:27:30 You go in to play Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt is the doormat. Hey, Vanderbilt is everybody's homecoming. I, no disrespect, but people put Vanderbilt on their schedule for homecoming because our alumni is coming back. We want to get the students excited. We want the alumni to see us kick somebody's ass. That's what you, that's who you schedule.
Starting point is 00:27:48 You schedule Vanderbilt. Right. But they got that pig six, they got it early. And it's like, hold on, wait a minute. They started running the football, Ocho. They set the tone. And the one- Listen, a play like that, it make you believe.
Starting point is 00:28:03 It make you believe like, hold on. We can play with these fellas. Hold on. We can play with these boys. And that's exactly what happened. The one thing Alabama pride itself on, Ocho. Being able to stop the run. Yeah. Nick Saban plays a 34 that defense with 34 defense, they had them big halls up there, the outside linebackers.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Stop the run. The thing that's always given him problem because he's done a great job of stopping the run was mobile quarterbacks. You look at who's coach Saban, go back and take a look. Cam Newton, Johnny Manziel, Deshaun Watson. What do all those guys have in common? Legs.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Legs. If you have a little mobility, Trevor Lawrence, Cordell Jones, thousands of the type of guys, Johnny Foot, Johnny Manziel. Look at, those are the guys that normally give coach Saban defense trouble because coach Saban does a great job. I mean, you guys go back out the only time I could think of somebody just like just ran the ball down their throat.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Well, Ohio State in the college football playoffs with Zeke went for like 225-240. That was the only time that I could remember off the top of my head. Now mobile quarterbacks give him problems because they're elusive and they, you drop in coverage and you guys run past them and they jump out the window and they get to take that take off down the field. But today, Vanderbilt just lined up and just ran the football and had great success running the football, which you don't normally see against Alabama. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Cause Alabama has a lot of guys on the defensive line and linebackers and even corners and safeties that's going to play on Sundays. You go to Alabama, you want to play on Sunday, though, Joe, let's let's let's not sugarcoat. So, I mean, with a loss like today, what do you think the problem is? It can be coaching, because if you have a team full of four and five star players, a game shouldn't look like that, especially when you got those halls up there in the trenches.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I mean, they could you you couldn't stop to run. Yeah, they couldn't stop pass. So do they have that many many players that are good enough to go to the NFL or will be going to the draft this year? Well, that's the thing about college football. Lord show is that. It's easy for those guys to lose focus. You got to realize now you deal with 18, 19, 20 year olds.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Lose focus? Yes, yes. Let me ask you a question. When you're 18, 19 year old, did you have the same focus you had as 26? It's a simple yes or no. Exactly. No.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah, but I'm talking about on that field, you locked in no matter what. They're a kid, Ocho. That's why I didn't beat the, I didn't beat the kid up from Alabama. He's a kid. He 18, 19, 20 maybe. Huh? How does he?
Starting point is 00:30:55 Yeah, Tennessee. Yeah, I'm saying, what did I say? Oh, that's why I didn't beat him up. It's a kid. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's a horrible mistake. That's a horrible lapse in judgment. But what if that had been an NFL player?
Starting point is 00:31:09 Oh man. But you know, NFL player will understand situational awareness, especially in that. And that's going to come into your goddamn headset. Listen, you got to give us a chance. No, we can't. First thing to come go through that headset. You got to give us a chance.
Starting point is 00:31:23 If nothing there, you got to throw it up. Oh Joe, we've seen guys run out of the end chance. If nothing there, you got to throw it up. Oh Joe, we've seen guys run out of the end zone. That's NFL quarterbacks. We've seen guys- Like Dan, you're by Dan? We've seen quarterbacks make bonehead plays, like have a guy throw the ball out of the end zone.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Bro, why you throwing the ball? Why would you throw the ball? But, but, but as an 18, 19 year old, yes, that's the hardest thing is to keep the guys focused because they have the attention span of an 18, 19 year old is not that of a 25, 27 year old. That's look, and I understand the NIL money, the collective money and they get some money
Starting point is 00:31:57 and I get that. But the focus is not that of a professional because you understand these still kids. I mean, some kids are mature. I'm not saying all of them, Ocho, but I'm saying it's harder to get young guys to have a singular focus than say NFL guys. But, you know, there's no excuse for him running out of bounds. There's no excuse for him, no excuse for him running out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:32:25 There's no excuse for that. But we saw it last week, Ocho, that the guys lose a little focus here and it doesn't take much now. Yeah. Because the game is, look, the game is like inches, not miles. You have a lapse in judgment, it's a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Oh yeah. That's it, it's a touchdown. Oh yeah. That's it. It's a touchdown. But give Vanderbilt credit. I mean, they got tired of me. They're two and two, one and one in the conference. Uh, I'm sure they get tired of hearing with a weak link. I mean, y'all just collect them checks. Y'all, everybody, y'all get y'all $45, $50 million. That'd be a SEC, uh, dole out after everything that's happening. Y'all happy with that? Y'all got a big old endowment. But y'all ain't really trying to win no football game.
Starting point is 00:33:08 First of all, it's so damn hard to get into there. I mean, I go, man, look, I'm not going to spend all my time studying. I'm majoring in eligibility, which means I'm trying to stay on the field to get to the next level. Y'all not going to have a steady haul. Five, six, seven, eight, 10 hours a week. Oh, hell no. In eight, 10 hours a week. Oh hell no. In the library writing for doing projects, oh no.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So I majored in football, that's my major. And as the process of I gotta get a degree in political science or history or criminal justice, okay. Well listen, but we on the same page. We on the same page. We on the same page. Yeah. Now, you know, my brother, he's there to go into summer school, got two degrees.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Now, the only degree I was trying to get was like a suntan. It was 105 in Savannah. That was the only degrees, 105 degrees. Yeah. No, I got, I was like, I'm here now. I might as well, you know, go to class and get my schoolwork. Like my granddad said, get your lesson son,
Starting point is 00:34:07 get your lesson, you dying there son, get your lesson. Might as well. Might as well, I was dying there. But Vanderbilt pulls off one of the biggest upsets in the last decade, at least. Taking down number one Alabama, 40 to 35. They dominate time of possession, 42 minutes and eight seconds to 17 minutes and 52 seconds.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Give Alabama, give Vanderbilt credit. They won, they deserve to win, they outplayed them today. Texas A&M at home, upsets Mizzou 41 to 10. Texas A&M cornerback, Will Lee III, he's nicknamed the blanket. He set this blanket and a note to Missouri wide wide receiver Theo Weiss, Theo Weiss Jr. ahead of the game. A warm welcome to College Station.
Starting point is 00:34:56 He's like, get used to this blanket. It will be, it will be real tomorrow. Will the blanket. Wow. Sit home boy. We pulled up wearing the blanket. Wow. Sit home, boy. We pulled up wearing the blanket that would have held him to zero catches in the first half. Will blanket lead tweeted after the game. It wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Let me off. Moss ran for 138 yards with three touchdowns, a career high, 138 yards as Texas A&M handed Missouri its first loss with a 41 1010 victory. A&M was up 24-0 at the half. Right. And Patti DeLis with Moss with 75 yards or a touchdown on the first play of the third quarter, Drinkowitz said he was embarrassed by his team's performance. He was, we were competitive. And that's not the Mizzou foot, that's not Mizzou football, he said. Yeah, what was Mizzou not the Mizzou foot. That's not Mizzou football. He said
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, what was Mizzou ranked Mizzou is ranked as well number 10 number 90 And they were on the road. I saw I saw I saw Number nine. No, they were on the road. Yes Mizzou was on the road at Texas A&M all the teams that lost one the road today That's crazy That's crazy. That's, oh, I like, I like, I like, um, Willie, I like little message he sent. Even if, even if he didn't do it, I like it because not only did, if he didn't do it, he backed it up.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Well, you got to back it up. If you do it, he backed it up. Well, you got to back it up if you do it. He backed it up. I mean, it just, it made, it made watching the game exciting because now I'm locked in. I want to see how Theo, Theo we respond to getting the blanket. Now I want to see if William Lee blanket, the blanket, AK the blanket, if he really liked that.
Starting point is 00:36:40 So that, that made it exciting for me. But I mean, they'll Texas the same them dominant the whole goddamn game Yeah, it may think maybe Mizzou was ranked Well, they it made me think Mizzou wasn't supposed to be ranked the way they look today Yeah, no way hell take made him that much better You know, oh Joe, you know, it's a situation when you're on the road and a team get out, it can easily get out of hand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:08 You saw last week, Georgia fall back, but you saw it was 28 nothing in the blink of an eye. And that was the number two team in the country. Yeah. So you have to be careful when you're on the road, a crowd gets into it. You get, you know, you fall down seven, nothing. You come out, you go three and out. Next thing you know, you're down 14, nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And all of a sudden you got the crowd into the game. Now it's harder for you to hear guys hadn't been in that situation before. And before you know it, the game gets out of hand 24, nothing. And that crowd is rocking in the house that Johnny built and. It's over. It was over. Uh, the score was at the end of the third quarter. The score was 34 to seven. And. It's over, it was over. The score was at the end of the third quarter, the score was 30, 47.
Starting point is 00:37:56 So Texas A&M, the number 25, Texas A&M, Aggies take down the number nine, Missouri Tigers, 41 to 10 as Texas A&M is now five and one. They're three and on the conference. Missouri, four and one, one and one in the conference. Minnesota, obsessed the number 11 Trojans. 2417, the man of Troy. Brosmar on fourth and gold snake, Max Brosmar powered into the end zone from Minnesota on the fourth and go from the one yard line with 56 seconds left Breaking the tie with a third rushing touchdown of the game with the Trojans 3 and 2 1 & 2 in the big 10
Starting point is 00:38:31 Out of timeouts Miller balls moved them within striking range before he from the 28th into double coverage was picked off into the end zone USC hosts Penn State next Saturday the Trojans and the mintly that Nittany lions last met in the Rose Bowl and, uh, January 2nd, 2017. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's when Saquon Saquon went crazy, but I think they ended up losing. Yeah. USC one. It should be a good game. Cause that's when, uh, Sam Sam, was that Sam Darno that had that field day? Yeah. I had to be.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Cause six fake wine ran with crazy, but it wasn't enough to overcome. Uh, I think it was Sam Darno. Yeah. Lee SC 20, 40, 17 unranked Minnesota. Okay. Oh, sure. That's twice 17 unranked Minnesota. Okay. Oh, Joe, that's twice unranked teams. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:31 At home. Boom. I mean, USC USC when that I mean, I hate saying it like that. USC when that good to begin with, man, number 11 in the country. Yeah, but with, man. They're number 11 in the country. Yeah, but they not, man, they don't remind me of the USC, oh man. What, the USC, oh, you gotta go back 20 years
Starting point is 00:39:52 to talk about Reggie Bush, you talking about them? Yeah, I'm talking about, and listen, they always got some gangster receivers too, huh? USC always got some gangsters. They still got some good receivers. I said gangster. Every receiver is good. I'm talking about like, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Where was the last? I got a tune in because so and so is playing. I mean, you take Drake London out of the mid. You gotta go way, way back to USC having gangsta receivers. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, man. Juju Smith?
Starting point is 00:40:22 Mike Williams? You do realize how long that's been? Hold on, I'm trying to think who else. They done had some dogs come through there now. Yes, yes, they've had some very good receivers come through there. Lynn Swann, yes. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You done went way back. Then Jared. I'm talking about a little bit more recent now. A little bit more recent. Yeah, yeah, Drake was nice. You know, that was it. I called talking about a little bit more recent now. A little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was nice. You know, that that was I called that must see TV. It's just it's just not the same that the appeal, the excitement when certain teams are playing because there's really nobody watch hell when Ohio State play. God damn, I want to see Jeremiah Smith with Alabama playing.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Hell, I want to see Jeremiah Smith. With Alabama playing, hell, I want to see Ryan Williams. Yes. If Colorado's playing, I want to see what the hell Travis Hunter finna do. Yeah. But everybody ain't got those guys, Ocho. That's just like everybody ain't got a Chanoor 70s. Every college should have at least one
Starting point is 00:41:20 that puts asses in seats and puts eyes on the TV at least one all you need is one where they gonna get them from if you're talking about you go into one of those schools that's not that's not like that well if the money right how many schools you think got money like that oh oh they got it now you heard me they got it now. You heard me? They got it now. Oh, they got it now. But them school's not paying it.
Starting point is 00:41:48 So you think Boysie State go out there and drop a million dollars, a million five on the wire receipt? No. Let me ask you a question. If Deon is not in Colorado, Travis Hunter going to Colorado? No. You know what? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:42:05 You know, it's not. He was already Florida State to Dion Flipp did. Hey, could you imagine if he was at Florida State right now? It don't matter. We went, he would still be doing the same goddamn thing. Now I understand that what I can understand is why receivers, because you know, Lincoln Riley knows offense. He's gonna have a quarterback that can throw the ball I don't know why if I'm a wide
Starting point is 00:42:29 receiver hell that's what the first place stop looking at I want to go yeah USC yeah cuz I don't link it rather gonna dial it up all the Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks he's on coach right the offense that is that's that's very NFL friendly because they're gonna throw it they're gonna spread it around. Yes. I'm looking at USC And the big Hollywood exec hell they got money at USC how they flip Jordan Addison Forgot about Jordan Addison. He he won the Belinda Cup award at pay it and next year. He that was he were nice It's your hair. Yeah, he's still nice. Matter of fact, we get to see him and we get to see Jordan Addison playing by what?
Starting point is 00:43:08 Six more hours? Yeah. I'm ready for that. But the golden gophers of Minnesota take down the number 11 men of Troy, 24 to 17. A late touchdown run seals the deal as Minnesota 24 unranked, number 11 USC, the Trojans 17. We're turning up the heat on the newest episode of All the Smoke.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris pulls up to the show to discuss her historic presidential run. Most people have ambition. They have aspirations. They have dreams and they are willing to work hard. And if we give people the opportunity to actually meet those goals, they jump for it every time. Matt and Stack will be diving deep into the journey that
Starting point is 00:43:58 brought her here, her vision for the future and the real stories behind the headlines. Make sure you check out all the smoke with Vice President Kamala Harris out now. Listen today on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker. On every season of my podcast Against the Rules, I take a broad look at various characters in American life. The referee, the coach, the expert.
Starting point is 00:44:30 My next season is all about fans and what the rise of sports betting is doing to them, to the teams, and even to my family. I'm heading to Las Vegas and New Jersey and beyond to understand America's newest form of legalized gambling. Listen to Against the Rules on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:45:03 Kaitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down to history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:45:15 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:45:33 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the I heart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 00:46:26 Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment. I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74,
Starting point is 00:46:47 starting October 9th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packer star Kabir Vajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. Hey, GB, explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest.
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Starting point is 00:47:52 or wherever you get your podcasts. The Huskies beat the number 10 Michigan Wolverines on Saturday night in a rematch of last season's college football playoff championship game. Will Rogers threw for 271 yards in a first half touchdown. Jonah Coleman, one yard TD run with 622 left, gave Washington the lead. The loss snapped Michigan 24 game Big Ten regular season win streak. Ocho? out Michigan 24 game big 10 regular season win streak.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Oh Joe. Hey, Michigan gotta stop running that ball man. They need to put the ball in the air. Well, what will who put the ball in the air? Who? That mean that that's the that's the whole that's the whole point. You can't you listen you can't run the ball down everybody. You can't run the ball down everybody throw you can't you
Starting point is 00:48:44 can't throw it if you ain't got people that's capable of throwing it either I mean listen I know the quarterback ain't that goddamn bad clearly here because it clearly because the coach the coach see if that what I tell people oh Joe you got to realize players and coaches see these players every day of practice. We know what they can and can't do. They're playing him. What? They better not play him. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Right. Right. Ten of 18.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Oh, Joe, 10 of 18, 98 yards, three or seven, 15 yards. They threw the ball for 113 yards. 10 of 18, they were 13 of 25, so they were slightly above. So what's that? 52, 53 percent in college for 113 yards. You talk about throw it. Yeah, you can't. You can't. You can't. But you're not gonna win many
Starting point is 00:49:45 games like that you're not you're not going to win games like that they ran everybody at the stadium oh no i'm saying if you don't they don't have what they had last year though they don't they don't oh no no absolutely not a lot of those guys playing on sunday they playing they playing on sunday right now but they don't have right now. Oh Joe, they don't have the quarterback that they have confidence in. They consistently drop back and throw the football. And I'm not saying because that's why you have 30. I mean, if you think about it, that's 62, that's 62 plays.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And they ran the ball 37 times. That we got four and a half yards of carry, which isn't bad. They're trying to shorten the game. We don't want to they're telling their quarterback, we don't need you to win the game. We just don't need you to lose it. Yeah. So we're going to put you at a most favorable situation. We possibly can.
Starting point is 00:50:40 We wanted to be, if we throw the football, we wanted to be third and short. We want to play at, we want to boot. We want to get your edges. So we cut down half the field. Oh, Joe, you know, a lot of times when you could run the boot, you cut down half the field. You're not worried about the backside. I want the quarterback to just focus from the hash to the sideline. Yeah, but, uh, unranked Washington at home takes down the number 10 Wolverines of Michigan and they did they pay coach yet did they pay the coach at admission now but what and week six ain't it yep I mean week seven week six man anybody man you better
Starting point is 00:51:24 cut my check, man. You got me going through this. OK, oh, Joe, Aston Gentry goes off for one hundred and eighty six yards and three touchdowns on thirteen first half carries in Boise State's victory over Utah State. Gentry became only the eighth FBS running back since 1996 to eclipse 1000 yards rushing in his first five games. And Liz, that includes Ricky Williams and Leonard Fournette. He already has 1000 yards rushing through five games and he doesn't even have 100 carries.
Starting point is 00:51:58 For context, Barry needed 130 carries to gain thousand yards and his record setting season in which he finished with 2628 yards. But here's the thing, Ocho, Barry had 225 yards and five touchdowns in a bowl game that didn't count. So he'd have been over 2800 yards and 40 plus touchdowns. In 13 games. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Barry Barry's a different case. But this young man here after watching him tonight, oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Oh, this guy here, but he for real. Oh, yeah. He nice. How tall is he? Oh, you think he looks like he remind me of Darren Spro? I love him. He's a bear. Spro. Oh, Joe, I was about to say he look like he like five, eight, five, nine. That's what I'm thinking. OK, yeah. I know one trippin. No, Joe, I was about to say he look like he like five, eight, five, nine. That's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:52:45 OK, yeah, I know one trippin. No, no, no, no, no. He's not he's you think he he I mean, he's not a bright now he put together now. He's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is. He is. He like you think he a four, three guy. No, he looked fast, man, because he break it out. He at least four, four, Ocho. OK. Order order. So the guy, he got to get on Sundays, put them numbers like that. Huh?
Starting point is 00:53:07 You're going to play on Sundays, put them numbers like that. Right now. He doesn't bought it to the lead in the Heisman race. Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You right.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Genti now has a thousand has a 90 carries, 1004 yards with 15 touchdowns. And five games. You know, you know what? Well, they try to use him not playing against elite competition to get against him because you know, you know, the scouts are good. They, they good for doing that. They, they good for doing that. Would you be able to do this at any other, in the other school?
Starting point is 00:53:44 I don't give a damn who he playing against. At the SEC. He could be playing against Gallyardet. He runs for 2800 yards. They better get that man that Heisman. I don't give a damn who he playing against. Do y'all understand how much 20, oh Joe, this dude is on pace to average 10 yards a carry.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Carry, yeah. Yeah. 10. He has a thousand yards in five games on 90 carries. Yeah. Yeah, I just listen. I'll let him play. I say, look here, son. I will give you two series in the third quarter. Right. I'm going to try to let him get 300.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Because I know there are going to be some games that possibly Ocho, he don't have rush games like this. Now, everybody will be buried because Barry was rushing for 300 against Oklahoma. He's running with the 85 against Nebraska. Really? Barry was a different animal, though. Oh, but this kid here, I mean, watching him tonight, I said, let me see what, let me see what he got.
Starting point is 00:54:46 What do you, what do you really got going on? He nice. Yeah. He night. Yeah. Hey, do you know when they will play better competition? Uh, where is a good, a good defense, the Mount West. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:00 The way the Mount West, they got Hawaii, you and LV. Anybody ranked on this schedule? Now you and LV is ranked. What you and you and every would bring like 20 something. Yeah, but they just lost, though. So all right, so now it's time for money moves sponsored by DraftKings. Gentie now has the best odds to win the Heisman. Gentie plus 225, Travis Hunter plus 320, Cam Ward plus 900, Jalen Milro plus 1000.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Well, I mean, hold on now. Wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let's let's wait a minute. Jalen Milrow, do things change now that they've lost? They just back to that again. This updated, they just back to that, you know, OK, OK, OK, OK. And I'm sure Travis Hunter will Travis Hunter's Case for Heisman will continue to rise, especially when he has a great showing against K-State coming up this weekend
Starting point is 00:56:15 Yeah, okay. But but here's the thing though. You just say it. What about the competition now? What happens when gente rush for 300 yards? What is what does this start will do? Now what happens when Gentie rush for 300 yards? What is his start go do? The dude had 186 or 13 carries there, Joe, and didn't play a snap in the second half. Yeah, that's, hey, why do coaches do that? Why not let them obliterate the record? Yeah, because they're gonna say,
Starting point is 00:56:40 well, we don't want to get him hurt, you know, because, oh Joe, they had a, they was like up like 40, 49 to like 10 at the hal. You get him nicked in a game, they're like, why you got him in that game? Ocho, you know what's coming. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I got you, I got you.
Starting point is 00:56:58 It makes sense. But shit, Kam, Kam Ward got to pick it up, man, in the second half now. He got to do, yeah, he does. You got to pick it up man. The second half now you got to do. Yeah, he does. You got to pick it up. I mean, look, it's happened to me because it happened to me. Oh Joe, my senior year in college, we get like, I remember the first game of the season.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I had like five catches a buck 50 and two touchdowns. So I'm saying I'm thinking to myself, Oh, I'm going for three. Coach told me leave my pants in the locker room. I think cold. I know you, I know you were mad. Oh, Joe, I think coach coach, I can get three. He's a son. You won't play on Sundays if something happened to you.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I'd never forgive myself. Right. And that's one thing. Oh, Joe, you know, I try to hear that. I mean, thing. Coach, today listen. Ocho, you know I ain't trying to hear that. We ain't trying to hear that. We ain't trying to hear that. Sometimes your coach will gotta say you for yourself though.
Starting point is 00:57:52 He does. I did, he did the same thing. Sometimes your coach will gotta say you for yourself. What I have, I had 10 for like 205 and four touchdowns against Clark. He said, come on son, you done done enough. I said, Coach, let me get five touchdowns. Ocho, I'm trying, I, I don't, I don't, oh on, son, you done done enough. I said, call that, let me get five touchdowns. Oh, Joe, I'm trying, I, I know, oh, man, oh,
Starting point is 00:58:09 I was trying to speak on the field, man, I was on the field. Hey, then when I didn't go call the pair, oh, I don't snuggle the field. Man, coach, hey, then I told coach David, man, sharp out there, he done called the tire, oh, I'm gonna get, I don't get that touchdown, oh, Joe. I had a toe, I had a toe. I was dropping, I don't get that touchdown on Joe. I had a toe poke by quarterback. I said, poke, and he throw me this fade.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Cause he looked at me like, man, what you doing there? I thought they took you out. I said, man, shut up and throw me this fade. Man, then a toe back in the toe, Coach Davis. Hey, Coach Sharp back out there. I just been running down the sideline. I said, man, I'm gonna snap the ball, snap it. sharp back out there. I just run it down the sideline. Get your ass out of the game. I'm going to snap the ball, snap it.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah, nah. Now that's funny. Man, man, Ocho, I was trying to give you some stats. I mean, think about it, Ocho, I had 60 catches, 1,300 yards of 18 touchdowns Just think about what I could have had 18 touchdowns on 60 catches. Hey, that was your senior. Yes I'm like bad. Oh, I'm trying I'm trying to give you some ease. Oh Hey, they have some good numbers there, but I was trying to give you some, oh man. Oh, I had what? One, two, three. Like three of my first five games, I had five, I had two of the yards in a game.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I went for like 150. I went for 221, 154, 209, no, 202, 204. I was cooking. And Coach was pulling myself. Hell, I thought he was playing for the other team. I said you're coaching me or you coaching them. Hey, but it was a good numbers now. Them videos. You were putting up video game numbers. video game numbers, but show. Hold on. I went,
Starting point is 01:00:06 I went like nine, I went like nine, 10. I might've went like 11, 12. That'd been like 12 games in a row I had at least a hundred yards receiving. Right. Touchdown, I had a touchdown of like 19 straight games. That's difficult to do on any level because that's something
Starting point is 01:00:27 coordinators got to pay attention. Listen, if they're going to beat us, it ain't going to be number two. I tell you, I tell you that much. Not aware somebody will be wide open because if you put two on me, I'm going to jump over the top of them. Catch it. Yeah, yeah, to a to a to a go do it. And you mean you had no bounce like that, man. Oh, but you understand.
Starting point is 01:00:46 So we drove. We took the bus everywhere. So we get when we get there, you know, we have our pay. We have our helmets and shoulder pads in our hands. And so we just have our cut off shirts. You know who got off the bus first? You know, you know, I've been up banking that so I'm good. I'm just coming right here, Ocho. I'm coming. I'm done. Hold on. Ocho. I'm coming out of the hotel.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I have the arm hanging. What? Yeah. If you see them, look, they point. That's him. That's sharp. That's that number two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's me. You won't get it. You won't get it.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I mean, man, I'm the best thing going right now. I'm better than the Cosby show. Watch this. Oh, I was cooking though too. I was cooking back then. Hey, I gotta find me some film on this. Oh, I was cooking. Oh, oh, Fort Valley.
Starting point is 01:01:35 You got some VHS film? I get your pleasure, C-boy, how it going deep on him. Yeah, I gotta see this. I gotta see these highlights. There it is. Hey, there it is. Hey, there it is. That's sharp on the other one. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Now, look at them. I got to see this. Chidor now tops the race for the first quarterback drafted. ESPN polled 20 NFL scouts and executives who evaluate college players to see where they stood on the top quarterback in 2025 NFL draft. The variants of the approved telling. Shador got nine votes. Carson Beck got five votes.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Jalen Milro got four votes. Cam Ward got one vote. Quinn Ewers got one vote. Ocho, do you think Shadour will be the first quarterback selected? Absolutely. Absolutely. He going to be the first quarterback selected. The unfortunate situation about him being the first quarterback selected is the situation that he's going into.
Starting point is 01:02:41 That that's it. That that's all I'm worried about. I don't, I don't want it to be another incident like that of Bryce Young and what was going on with him in Carolina. I hope wherever Shador does go, they have pieces that are already in place and around him. And if they don't, I would love to know their long-term, short-term goals and putting the pieces around him to make sure he's able to be a successful quarterback at the next level.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Well, uh, should door has had a productive year. He's led miraculous comeback against Baylor. He's thrown 14 touchdowns with three interceptions. He's number six nationally in passing yards, uh, playing on the long-time NFL offensive court, uh, Pat Schumer, uh, which has led an evolution of more than NFL style office. See this what I love by time Let me go get somebody that's gonna get my son ready
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yeah, yeah that can play A pro style offense get him ready to play a pro style game Their videos are going around to talk to mark Davis should door was on the bye week He was at the Aces game last night the Aces won Congratulations, my girlum, Asia Wilson. Oh, man, you see that rapper Brown pass by Chelsea Gray? How she had that thing. Yeah, like, I take that with you.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Asia, they played really well. Tiffany Hayes did an unbelievable job. Jackie Young, they won. But he was at the game. And Mark Davis was talking with your door at the Aces game last night, said, who knows? You might be home now. Hey, it sounds good.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I like it. I like it, but you know, you know how owners are. They don't say anything. They don't say anything to you. Say your dream. That they don't say your dream. It might not be the Raiders that had that first pick, but they might because they do need a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Ain't no telling how they are jumping the draft to go get him. Right. Well, ain't no telling. He's like, he's just saying, well, just tell me, where y'all picking at? I'll let you know, because like if Dad did, they call it Dad into the Giants. It didn't go. I think Time told a story, he's like,
Starting point is 01:04:42 the Giants want to do an interview with Time at the combine. Oh, he's like, for what? Yeah, he's like, the Giants want to do an interview with time at the combine. Oh, he's like, for what? Yeah, he's like, hold on, what y'all picking? But we picking 13, he said, I ain't gonna be there. I ain't gonna be there. They're entire stupid, man. They gotta be walked out.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Hey, that's a good one. That is a good one. Man, like I said, man, people don't realize how special time was. I know y'all get, y'all, y'all, y'all watching, I mean, you see some highlights of it, and you hear him talk. I don't do, I don't do you no justice.
Starting point is 01:05:14 You don't do him no justice. No. Footage don't, because you need to see the speed. You need to see. Because I think a lot of times, Ocho, because the brashness, it superseded his talent, if you could imagine that and he was talented beyond talented
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