Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Brown SABOTAGING Shedeur + Shilo EJECTED + Rashan Gary joins

Episode Date: August 24, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Rashan Gary react to Shedeur Sanders vs Dillon Gabriel, Shilo Sanders getting EJECTED, & Rashan Gary pulls up to talk Packers football and more! 2:13- Shedeur’s Final Preseason Game 10:45 - Kevin Stefanski on why he didn't let Shedeur finish the game 28:35 - Rashan Gary joins the show47:55 - Shilo ejected for trying to throw punches (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I know you watched this game, as I did. I want to hear what you have to say first. Well, first of all, listen, George Sanders didn't play bad. Chat, those that follow me on Twitter, you happy? There it is. He didn't play well. He didn't play bad, huh?

Obviously, he stunked it up. But let me, let me, let me clarify why he's off some insight. Let me give you a little insight. So he comes in in the third quarter, am I correct? Am I correct? the players that are playing in the third quarter, excuse me if I'm wrong, you can do your homework. Will those players make the 53 man roster on? going to put him in a situation that is not advantageous to him and competing at a high level,

boom, let's give him a chance. Let's give him a chance with the play calling. You know you have an offensive line that isn't playing that well. So what do we do? Why not just play the short game so we can get the ball out of his hands very fast to run a competent, goddamn offense? purposely running plays that are 10, 12, 15-yard routes knowing damn well, the goddamn officer line is not going to be able to hold up. It's ridiculous. It's clear.

I played football for a very long time. I played the NFL at a very high level for a very, very long time. I understand in a situation like that, when it comes to the threes and four that you're playing with that aren't going to be that aren't going to be on the squad and not going to make the team, give your quarterback a chance. hands. Okay, you know what? You know they can't hold up that long? Let's play quick game. Let's play quick game just against your door in a goddamn rhythm. But no, you come out,

calling regular officer plays that are very long, damn near play action. Damn near play action. If he was under center, knowing they take a while to develop, knowing good and goddamn well, the old line and the people you have out there right now are not going to be able to hold up. Outside of that, Shadoor has to be better in understanding that the office line that you're working where right now, it's not adequate. Get the ball out your hands. Get the ball out your hand. But he's holding the ball for one reason. He's holding the ball because the goddamn players aren't open.

He's waiting for things to develop, which is why he's holding the ball and trying to make something happen by holding on to it, by scrambling, moving, obviously running out of area, running out of real estate, and being sacked. I'm not sure what game you guys are watching. Again, I state, sure it did play bad. He did. but why he played bad is clear as day if you

understand the game of football and Woody had to work with. Kevin Safesky not lent you do or come back in the game to finish the two minute drill. Oh, I've never seen that before. I've never in my life ever have seen anything like that before.

What are we doing? What are we doing? No disrespect to Snoop Huntley. Snoop is probably not going to be on the team. he's probably not going to be on a team so I'm not sure what you were waiting to look Snoop was on the team simply because quarterbacks were injured so they brought in the extra body. I not allow

the players that are competing for a job in this instance, Shador Sanders, to finish off the two-minute drill. Agreed. What are we doing? Who makes that call? He makes that call. Why? Because I want the last thing people to see

I want the last thing for people to remember is the mistakes and the sex that happened and not give him a chance to redeem himself because I think probably what would have to happen okay we can't have to do it coming here and finish this two minute drive and go down and get a touchdown.

We don't want that. So we're going to leave him on the sideline so it leaves a bad taste in those mouths. So now there's nothing that they can say there's nothing that they can say because now you've got a small samas of him playing with people that are probably not going to be on the team

in their bio on Twitter I'm going to say former man come on man but okay I can't wait to hear your piece

and in chat for those you who are listening and watching I'm not making any excuse for him he played bad he played bad

but I can tell you why he played bad I mean if you know the game of football and understand the game of football understanding that those that are in there

with him during that time I'm not going to be able to see go ahead man I agree with everything you say he did play bad and you and I

we come out here and we're on we talk four or five nights a week sometimes six nights a week we've gone six straight nights we've gone nine straight days before and what we do we tell it like it T I it like my grandma say boy tell it like it TIST is we tell it like it is

Shudor did not play well today he played awful everything that you said is true Shadur you know this offensive line is not competent enough to give you protection and I understand And it says, Ocho, I'm in competition. I saw what Dillon Gabriel did with the guys that's probably going to be on the team. I'm trying to match that.

But what happened is that they didn't give him the necessary pieces in order to match this. If you want me to fight, if you want me to win a war, give me the weapons. You can't expect me to win a modern war with muskets and cannons. They use drones now. They use stuff with precision. pinpoint accuracy so you're expecting me to win a modern game

and you're giving me old time that won't work so Shadour has to do a better job of getting the ball out of his hands Ocho he has some time it's okay coach hey that ain't my game that's Lamar Jackson

that's Josh Allen that's Jalen Hertz that's their game buying time like that Shadour has in a pocket he can move side to side but he doesn't have that ability, that escapeability like these other quarterbacks, like the board mentioned, I mentioned.

I don't understand why you would let Snoop Huntley take the two-minute. Unless he's going to be one of the four quarterbacks that's going to be on your roster, you give that to your door. I agree with what you said because you said, look, we've seen guys play bad, be great in the two-minute drill, and you forget they've played bad, entirety of the game. I don't know what's inside Kevin Stefansky head.

Maybe you're like, hey, I wanted Snoop, you know, we're going to end up releasing him and, you know, we wanted him to go. Look, Snoop Huntley's been in the league for five years. He started several games for the Ravens when Lamar Jackson would hurt. Hell, he started a postseason game. So this notion that you doing him some type of favor,

when the man has been in the league four or five years, He started six, seven games in his career. He started a postseason game. It's just disingenuous. With all that being said, I agree. The offensive line wasn't very good. And the one thing that a coach used to always tell me, he said, son, don't make a bad play worse.

You see your offensive line breakdowns your door. Don't make a bad play worse. Don't run around and lose five. Don't lose 10. He got sack five times, lost 41 yards. fumble the ball come on you got to be better than that and i understand when you're in competition oh joe i'm trying to compete so i'm going to scratch claw and do whatever i think is necessary that's going to help me put me at an advantageous situation so i can compete so i can win

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Here's Kevin Stefansky, not letting you do a. run the two-minute drill at the end of the game with the Browns. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Kevin, it was obviously a bit of a rough second half for Shador on the entire Brown's offense, but like, why didn't you keep in for a two-minute drill? Why did you decide to put the time? Yeah, obviously, we didn't play great as an offense in the second half. That's never on one person.

So we can be better in a bunch of areas and just felt like we wanted to give Snoop a last draft. Did Shador have something wrong with them after the game? He walked up to you after taking his walk down to the Kylon and then he walked back up to you on the sidelines before Snoop went in and he said something to do to you. You shook your head. I mean, was he trained to get back.

He's a competitive kid. The plan was to go with Snoop there, but I wouldn't make any more good than that. Yeah, he's like, Coach, let me get this last one. Give me an opportunity. Nah, we're good. We're going to take a look at Snoop. They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing.

Listen, a blind man can see that. A blind man can see that. Again, for those in the chat, I, listen, I'm not taking it for him. I'm going to say it again. And I reiterate it. Shador Sanders played bad. Based on the circumstances in the situation he was put in, and the weapons around him and the almost the line that he had to deal with,

that probably won't be on the 53-man roster. that's exactly what you would look like. You could have put Tom Brady out there with that offensive line, he would look the exact same way. You could have put Patrick Mahomes out there with that offensive line in that third quarter in the second half,

he would have looked the exact same way. Kevin Stefanski saying, we didn't play well in the second half. Well, yeah. I mean, obviously. You didn't call plays well in the second half. This is what Derek Carr had to say. I need to understand why we don't get to see Shadour run this too many drill.

Wouldn't you want to see your young quarterback operate in this situation, get him more reps for the future? I didn't see the whole game, so maybe he already showed enough. Help me understand this. Jerome Aitner, so Kevin Stafansky gives Dylan Gabriel easy short throws with max protection and then give Shadour Boogai plays with an old line that looked like they just ate a gang of Little Debbies. if you browns trade should do it did you hear the key word when i went as soon as i stated that he played well and the first thing i said what you just read he gave dylan gabriel short throws to get himself in rhythm to get the ball out his hands and then in the second half the play calls

were much longer routes that took time to develop and they know good and well that the officer line wouldn't be able to hold up the only reason a quarterback holds on on to the ball. Sometimes it's covered sacks. Sometimes it's waiting for receivers to get downfield for Ralph to develop. And they know good and well. Like, you know good and well. It wouldn't

going to work. You have an NFL quarterback, an experienced quarterback, that's pointing it out. Exactly what I said. I didn't even know. I didn't know Derek Carr tweeted that. I didn't even know. But I'm just sitting here watching. I'm like, what are we doing? What are we doing

as a coach, as a head coach, as a coaching staff. I mean, if it's a quarterback competition, put the players in advantageous situations and give them a chance to succeed. It's simple. It's something like you were doing on Sunday. When Joe Flacko goes out there week one against the Cincinnati Bengals,

they're going to put him in positions to succeed every quarter, every down, it's just the way the game is played. You play to win the game. I mean, I don't, I don't understand. I don't want to. Mike Hill, Mike Hill, I hope Shadour will eventually end up on a good roster with a coach who wants and believes in him.

It's so obvious this league and even the Browns in a sense have been trying to send a message to him since the, since the draft, and it's downright disgusting. Like I said, I co-sign. I agree with everything that you said. the play was not adequate enough and Shadour has to get to a point in time that's always been his knock

we said this when he was in college he holds on to the ball too long you're not going to make every play the sooner he gets that in his head the sooner he comes to that realization the better off he's going to be do not make a bad play worse Ocho if you the worst thing you could do

if I run a if I run the wrong route is drop the ball when he throw it to me damn son at least you're going to do is catch it you don't have up to play you're in some place you're not supposed to be son if you if you if you if you jump off side son just go just go maybe maybe they missed it but don't make a bad play worse and you block the wrong guy and then you end up holding what damn son should do her just feed your process up yes the offensive line wasn't adequate yes the receipt Give him the plays that you gave him against Carolina.

Let him get the ball out of his hands. Let him, let in a situation like that, you let the, you let the office, you let the receivers help you. You put the ball in their hands and says, okay, son, go get four, five yards after the catch. As opposed to take it a five-step drop and trying to push the ball down the field. That is my synopsis of what I saw.

Hopefully now, Joe, hopefully, three seasons is over. we can stop having these conversations. Joe Flacco is the starting quarterback. Now we need to stop asking these questions. When are we going to switch your door? Because you're not going to see Joe Flacco, something happens to him. If they keep full quarterbacks, it's going to be Joe Flacco.

It's going to probably be, I don't know, hell the way it looks like Dylan Gabriel might be two now. Kenny Pickett might be three. And you know, you know what also, what also, I'm not saying it scares me, but it worries me. If they've already made a decision, if their mind is already made up as an organization, as a head coach has them coming out and saying what he said two weeks ago about the pick not being his and Andrew Barry standing by his side

and standing by his pick. And for Andrew Barry to have to witness what he saw today, someone that is very intelligent, very intelligent to be in a position of power that he's in. And to witness what he witnessed today, I'm thinking also if the decisions already been made to release your door

or to cut him in any way, shape, form of fashion, what scares me is him going to another team. and will team be willing to be able to deal with someone with the last name Sanders that brings the kind of attention to a team that he does and he's not even a starting quarterback? You understand what I'm saying? Because that brings a totally different dynamic

to a team where it takes away from whoever the starting quarterback is being Shadour now coming in and being on that team. You get what I'm going with it? Now it's that he didn't create, but it just comes with the Sanders' last name in general. That's a lot of oxygen being taken up out of the room for a guy that's not playing. That's what you say. The Brown's general manager, Andrew Barry, told the NFL network,

keeping four quarterbacks, not much of a decision. We have a room that we like and all the guys in there. We don't really see that as a problem. We more see it as an opportunity. Ocho, my thing is, why are you keeping four quarterbacks, when clearly one of the quarterbacks you don't actually believe in. I know, hey, well, I know Andrew Barry and Mr. Hassam. I know they'd be going at it, boy.

Because it's not, it's not like there's sentimentality. Sometimes, Ocho, we hold on the things that have sentimental value to us. Oh, man, Ocho, I had this thing so long, I just can't let it go. You know, but, but when there's no sentimentality to it, there's no attachment to it, you just drafted the guy. You drafted the guy in the fifth round. Why are you holding on to it? If you believe he was that good,

you would have given him a better opportunity to show you what he can do. From what I could deduce, and from what I read, I've never read anything or saw anything that Shadour Sanders took reps with the ones or the twos, except when Gabriel got hurt, and then he took that they were playing that Friday,

and he took reps to that Wednesday, Thursday. Other than that, excuse me, Prior to that, there was not a situation where I read what Mary Kay Cabin was writing and I read what others had written that I saw that Shador Sanders had taken reps with the ones and twos. So if he's not taking one of the two, and you would think after what he did in the Carolina game, that's normally what happens, chat. I'm telling you what normally happens when a guy, if he's down on the depth chart and he plays good in a preseason game, they normally come in and that practice back,

he's like, I want to see what the guy can do with the ones and the twos. No matter the position, be it quarterback, running back, wire receiver, O line, D line, linebacker, cornerback. I'm telling you, that's normally how it works. You're talking to a guy that was in a very similar situation. And y'all said, well, you always inserting yourself. I'm inserting myself because I'm telling you, I was in a situation like Shadour. He was a fifth rounder.

I was like sixth and seventh rounder. I was like six and seventh on the depth chart. So I played good in the preseason game, watch show. guess what next thing i know hey at the time i was 81 sharp cooob with the uh with the backup quarterback and you called me greasy they put you with the ones and the two of the day so hey make sure you're ready you need to know anything ask me

i don't know why but seven and coob always took a liking to me they always took a liking to me coobe would come into the game and practice Socho, he's like, Greasy, you know what you got? I said, no, not really. He said, you got X, what, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I'm telling you. Just like this.

He said, Greasy, look, it's going to be covered too. Take the hole. Greasy. It's going to be, it's going to be single high safety. Run to seven. It's going to be this. Hook it up. 15 yards, hook it up.

Show me a letter. I'm going to get you the ball. Hey, let's go, hey, let's go make some money today. He's all, he was always like that in my ear. So it gave me confidence that. damn this man he don't hey i'm a rookie and he helping me he's working with me hey seven with the exact same way but once i played good in the game with him guess what now i come back on monday ocho i'm with the twos and i didn't get into the fourth quarter because they want to see

what you can do with the starters okay if he did this with some backup let's see if we put it with the the number the one and twos. Let's see if he can do that again. Maybe it was because he's going against guys that's not going to be there. But let's see if he can compete against guys that we know going to be there on Sunday. So this is a very similar situation which you would have thought, you would have thought, because we had this conversation. Oh, Joe, he going to get the ref and one and two.

So we thought based on our experience and what happens when you play well. But listen, outside of that, Joe Flacco, that boy looked good. he looked good Dylan Gabriel came in goddamn Dylan Gabriel looked good very efficient

passes coming out everything sharp went down touchdown and then you know obviously 12 didn't play good

today he didn't and I've said it over and over for those in the chat I know we have our Shador haters who don't

who don't like him he didn't play well can you hear me but in most of those most of those that are hating too they don't they don't watch football they don't understand football

They don't understand the ends and announcing. The intricacies of football that you and I that played the game understand. The nuance. Listen, we see it. We see it clear as day. But they just on it. Oh, he played bad. He's ass.

He's a fifth rounder. He's not that good. Well, of course, yes, based on what you saw today. But we're trying to tell you why it looked that way. But that's neither here or no there. It is what it is. They made their decision. They have to lie in the bed with it.

So, listen, I'm happy for him. This is why I watch the game with no sound. I don't want someone to contaminate my mind and I regurgitate what somebody else said. Also, the reason why I watch, fans are only interested in the end result. I'm trying to figure out why we got said result. It's not good enough that they scored a touchdown. I need to know why.

Let me see the formation. Let me see what the guy did. Let me see the defensive coverage. Was it just a great route? Did he just beat? Sometimes, Ocho, you just beat the guy. And that's okay. You get paid.

He gets paid. Sometimes Ocho just going to win because Ocho was just the better player. Sometimes the defensive back is going to win. He wins some, you win more than you lose. sometimes who blew the assignment was it the safety was he getting greedy paying attention to the tight end on the over

when he should have been deep middle what was it what did the corner why did he did he not shovel the receiver down inside and sink why was he still so far why was he so close up when there's nothing to threaten the flat

I'm analyzing all of that is just not good enough for me to know that they scored I'm trying to see why they scored and then I'm going to tell you based on my experience having played the game having studied the game this is what I think happened so Ocho and I what we're trying to do we're not making excuses for sure sure sure has to do a better job of not making a bad situation worse hey I was so confused the night too long let me let me tell you something I really I really do this and I watched the game for a long time so I thought maybe I'm tripping maybe I'm

tripping based on what I'm seeing and maybe I'm not seeing it correctly. Hell, I pick up the phone. I call T.J. I call who I call Hoosh. And I'm like, who's? Am I tripping? Or did I see what I thought I just saw when 12 winning the game? He's like,

yeah. Yeah. You can tell Lee, that was a bunch of you know what. You know, T.J. T. T.J. don't care. He just, he just go off. Oh, yeah. He went off the rock on the phone. Yeah. Why would you put him in that situation? I say, okay, I just want to, if I heard it from you and I know how you, I know how T.J.

He's going to tell it like it. He don't, he don't care. And okay, I just want to make sure I wasn't tripping. I just want to make sure I went. But from another mouth, they actually played the goddamn game, the receiver position that also knows the game extremely well, all the intricacies that come with it.

Okay, boom. I know I wasn't tripping. No. And the thing that I hate is that you keep him buried. Now, may, hey, oh, Joe, maybe you keep him and he gives reps because when you're in the practice squad now you're going to get reps

because you're going to get reps because you're practicing the other guy's stuff because when they hold a card up oh Joe you I mean you read the scout team because you want to they hold the card up and so they got the plays drawn up and they circle where they want the ball to go so they're telling me hey

this is what this is our Fox 2 x and y hook this is our 25 dagger this is our double square out this is our comeback this like they're telling us what this play is in our terminology so we there's no mistaking okay sometimes the de-coordinator say come in here hey put a little extra sauce on it because this receiver has like he got he got some real good hey he got some shake on him now he ain't just boo down there breakdown no no he he studied hey he heavy at the line and then he go uh-huh Stop on the dime. So give us some of that.

A quarterback, run around a little bit. We play junior sayout. Off in the court, Kube and Mike would tell, Keith Burns was normal out junior sayout. He said, go wherever you want to go. If you're supposed to be in the A gap, go in the C gap.

Do whatever you. Hey, you got no responsibility. If you're supposed to blitz, dropping pass coverage. Because that's exactly what junior would do. They had no idea what the hell he was going to do. and so that's how he that's how he played it i'm like bro what hey you were supposed to blitz he said nah i ain't want to please hey that was so funny hey hey uh what's the name told me some stories

about about uh junior man hey buddy hey buddy that's it that's his word that's his way hey buddy oh man everybody was buddy i don't think he ever called anybody by their name every the coaches with buddy uh the office if you played office you were buddy if you played office you were buddy if you played Defense you was buddy. Hey, buddy. Oh, hey. It was so funny. I think.

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all right joining us on the show now we'll recommend we'll welcome in pro bowler last year he's a pro bowler he's number 80 on this year's NFL top 100 um you were 50 last year uh rishan despite making the pro bowl last year they have you down 30 spots i want to know what is rshaun garry going to do to get back into that top 50 get back into that top 30 maybe even get up into the top 20 well you're going to see in two weeks uh you know we got a great home over there you go let's go let's go yeah you know

got great home, but against the Lions, NFC, you know, robbery. So it was a nice way to start the season. I just want my work to show. Yeah. So I'll have a quick question for you. Camp is over now. Obviously, I'm sure you guys have a week

to work with some things. Packers versus Packers before you get into a game planning scheme for week one. How was camp for you? How is a body holding up? How do you feel? Are you going into camp healthy? Oh, yeah. No, this is Yeah, it's crazy.

Because I was just talking, you know, my teammate, Kenny, about it. I'm like, you know, going into year seven, it's one of the, you know, the healthiest camps that I have. So, you know, I'm feeling good, you know, from OTAs all the way through now. I've been putting in a great body at work. And now it's just time to, you know, put it on display. Yes, so. Yes, sir.

You guys don't play a game for another two weeks. Is Coach LaFleur going to give you guys some time off? Are you back on Monday or do you get Sunday? you get Monday, you guys are back in there Tuesday, or you're going to get a little time off before you have to hit it and start getting ready for the lions and two weeks. Yeah, you know, we got a couple of practices

coming up next week, but, you know, we got the weekend off and then back to work on Sunday. Damn, y'all back to work on Sunday already. Damn, I figure Coach LaFlew and get y'all a couple of days off, y'all. You're like, well, damn, Coe, we've been at, we had a good camp. The Packers, your defense.

I mean, you mentioned Kenny Clark. I'm assuming you're talking about Kenny Clark. Now you lost your cornerback, your all-pro cornerback, you released him, and he ends up going to Baltimore. How do you guys, because you guys have shown spots where you guys are dominant. I'm talking about dominant. You attack the quarterback, you stopped the run,

you turn the team over, you give your offense short fields. How do you stay consistent in doing that, Rashon? Yeah, just holding our standard. Everybody got to do they 1-11. And throughout OTAs, especially, you know, being year-to and, you know, a co-shaft system. It's been crazy watching everybody fly to the ball, attack the ball, and actually being on one to court, you know, talking about first all the way to fourth down,

get back on trackdowns. We're all on the same page, all speaking the same language, and, you know, it's been good seeing it. For you guys, especially to Packers, opening up with a game like this against the lines is a good test for you guys defensively, obviously, whether it be on the ground, whether it be in the air, because you understand the dynamic and how special the Lions' office is, even with Ben Johnson leaving, they still have all those weapons, you know, Jemir Gibbs and Montgomery, you know, the receivers on the outside, tight-in.

Your thought process going into it early so far, what is it that you think you guys need to do to win that game come week one from a defensive standpoint? I already know what you guys can do on offense. Defensively, can you be able to hold them? I'm not sure where the Lions finish when it comes to scoring, but you know they can put up points. Yeah, absolutely. Just like I was saying, we've been doing a great job through OTAs and camp of being on the same page, speaking the same language, understanding what teams want to do to us, especially our offense and these last couple joint practices really be on the same page, how these offensive teams want to attack us. I understand our weak points. And I'm saying when all 11, know that, we understand how to protect it. So just basically be on the same page. And when it comes to, you know, that game right at 3 o'clock, we've got to be locked and focused on one of core how we've been and just having fun. go. Okay, one more question, huh?

One more question, huh? Go ahead. I know your team goals. You got team goals, obviously, from a defensive perspective, team goals, offensive and decently. Obviously, the main goal you want to be in San Francisco at the end of the season, first week of February. But personal goals, your personal goals yourself that you would want to achieve.

Can you share with us, you know, whatever it may be? Yeah, I could just show you my, you know, shit a little into my mindset, man. Just trying to be dominant, man. I've been training the hardest off season. Really just shine take over. Like I said, one through fourth downs, man. That's what I'm playing for. And really just shine to show everybody, you know, how dominant I can be.

Rishon, you're the vet now. There's no more Aaron Rogers. There is no more Jahir Alexander. You're one of the old guards now. So now, how has your leadership style change? Because guess what? You're one of the senior voices now. You know, it's been great, man.

It's something that, you know, you always pray for or ask for. And, you know, it's crazy. You know, we got rookies coming in talking about I used to watch you before my high school games. I'm like, man, I'm, yeah, so, you know, it's kind of weird. But I've been having fun. And Green Bay been doing a great job, especially from when I came in with the guys they had ahead of me, being able to keep it real with me, especially a big guy to me was Mercedes-Lewis. So, you know, talking to him how to take care of my body, things like that.

So when, you know, young guys come up to me, asking me how to film study, what to look for, things like that. I'm able just to keep it real because I had a good O.G. But, man, it's just been fun, man. I'm really a lead by, you know, example. And if I need to speak, I'll get there. But then also I started to learn that, you know,

you can't talk to everybody the same way. You know, you got to understand, you know, everybody background. Oh, you did. Yeah, you know, everybody's background, you know, why everybody's in it. And I feel like, you know, this all season, especially through OTA's camp, you know, I've been able to understand people-wise.

So when it do get time, you know, two-minute drill, the fourth quarter, when we got lock in, you know, I could hit those points. Yeah. Hey, what's it, what's it like there in Green Bay? Is there anything to do? Is there fun?

You know, it's chill, calm. Play football. Yeah, play football, man, and focus, man. Man, chill calm. Green Bay, you know, slept on. But, you know, it's a great community and it's well, love. Okay, okay. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you got Milwaukee, you got Chicago. That's a couple that's 90 minutes away. You got Milwaukee, that's 90 minutes away. So, but it's easy to play. My brother played there for seven years, Rashon, and, you know, going to visit him. You can see why they had success in the 60s. Ain't nothing else to do.

There was less to do then than there is now, but you can understand why the Packers have success. There's not a whole lot to get into. There's not a whole lot of trouble. There's not a, look, if you, Appleton is down the way, but that's a college town, like I mentioned, Milwaukee, but hell, Milwaukee closed down at 10.30.

You ain't really trying to drive way to Chicago. you ain't really tried to drive away to Chicago to have a good time. Hey, when you're there for those months, when you come back for training camp and you're there, hey, bro, let's make the best of this situation. We can get tunnel vision. We can lock in.

Let's try to go compete and win a Super Bowl. And that's the mindset. That's how it's always been being a Green Bay Packer. Let me ask you this. If there are a play that you replay, if there's almost sack, if there's almost a ball that was on the ground, that damn, if I could have just got this one,

it would have helped out. If there are a play that you replay in your mind since you've been in Green Bay, that you're like, man, if I'd have made that play, that would have been a difference in the game. To be honest with you, now on the top of my head, but, you know, I played too hard to give it up, man. Like I said, I'm going on Year 7. Like a lot of guys I talk to, you know, you can't take it for granted.

And right now I'm in some crucial years where I feel like, you know, I could take off and start extending it in the right way. Hey, it's flying by, huh? Do you realize you in Year 7 already? it went by fast, isn't it? Yeah, it's going by fast. Like I said, I'm trying to stay in the moment and, you know, enjoy the ride. Oh, yeah.

It is because you look up and you're going to be in year 10. And because, you know, you're like, man, let me get five. And you say, well, let me get the 10. And then once you get the 10, you're like, let me take a year at a time. But before you know it, I mean, I woke up one morning. I'm like, damn, I mean, year 10. And next day you know, hey, calling Mike said, hey, this is it for me, bro. I'm done.

Yeah. It goes fast. And that's why I tell guys, man, enjoy it. Make sure you're training, you're eating, you prep, everything. Because you don't want to have not one iota of regret. Because regret, when you leave this game, you can't go back. And so to have that moment of regret for the rest of your life, it'll eat at you. So when you're done, Rashon, when you're saying, hey, Green Bay,

hey, LaFleur or Guna Kent, or whomever you got to call and says, I'm done. Hopefully you finish your career in Green Bay. You look back and like, man, I gave it everything I had. The way I trained, the way I slept, the way I practiced, the way I met, do everything. I walk away with my head held high, knowing I couldn't have got anything else out of the talent that God bless me with. Hey, it's a good one right here too, but it's a good one.

So I think about obviously during my playing days and some of the players that I looked up to at the same position, obviously while we're still playing, I would watch their film and study some of the things that they did and steal, you know, steal some of their moves, no matter where it, maybe just to be able to add to my game to improve year to year. Who are some players that play the exact same position you do that you look up to and watch their film

to see what they do where you can add to your toolbox as well? Yeah, with me, it's funny, but I like going throwback. So, you know, I like throwing on Julius Peppers. Yeah, Julius Peppers. That's a good one. Yeah, Julius Peppers.

I love Tom Ali, Williamson, the Kansas City Chiefs doing this. Yeah, Justin Houston. You know, those are guys that I feel like I read similar towards, and then nowadays, you know, you throw on, you know, Miles Garrett, you get you, you know, been in the edge of, you know, T.J. Watt, but I ain't going to lie. This year, a speed to power guy.

You know, but, you know, this year I've been doing a lot of watching myself, man. Yeah, I like it. I like it. That's dope. Let me ask you this, because I also and I was talking and how we approach the game of football, how we approach as a wide receiver. When you go into a game, obviously you're trying to get to the quarterback, but everything leads to something else. I'm showing him one thing, but that's not really what I want to do. I'm giving him this, but I really want to do that. But I'm saving it for a

rainy day because I know it's going to come a third down in this fourth quarter. And I know I've been running up the field the whole game. And I know, hey, I know I've been stabbing you the whole game. Hey, I've been posted and wiping you away the whole game. And I know you, I know you fin to sit on that because that's what I've given you. I've given you no reason to prepare for anything else. Is that how you approach the rush game? Is that, look, I'm doing what I can, but I know I got to have this in my back pocket where I absolutely got to get this quarterback on the ground. Yeah, um, shoot. You know, thing about past rushes and uh, every patch rush I talk to, man, you, you know, all the great ones, you really got about four moves in

the toolbox. And at the end of the day, it's really by reacting of what the, you know, the officer in lineman wants you to do. But once you get up the ball the same way, and you know, God, I'm thinking, oh, he's about to stab him, about to stab him. Yeah, I stab you the first four or five, maybe six rushers. But, you know, that third, you know, crucial down, you know, third and ten, third and eight, we got to go off the field. I might just sit you down at the edge. But yeah, it's a game. It's a game within the Langea. I both know that. It absolutely, it's a beautiful thing. to watch the guys, because, you know, I'm a lot older than you.

I'm probably the age of your dad, but the pass rushes to watch D.T. How he got off the edge and bent the edge, he reminds me of Vaughn Miller. And then I see Reggie White, how he just had pure power. He just, hey, he's just getting on the edge, and he's going to hump you. You already know what's coming. You can sit down as much as you want to, you 3.30 and try to sit on it. You're going to get hump. He's going to throw a 330-pound man.

like he's a sack of potatoes. And then you get a guy like a Bruce Smith that's 265, 270, all out like a Miles Garrett, playing on a five technique. And you're like, bro, how this man bend the edge like that? How can he lean? He's this high off the ground, Richel. I'm like, how? How did he do that?

I'm watching you. You got a lot of power. I see the way you're built from ways down, and the way you can post a guy. Wax on, wax them off. You can also bend the edge. As you mentioned, you can convert speed to power because you can't. It's all about getting off the ball.

Once I get off the ball, you have my mercy, bro. As long as I'm not lazy off the ball, Bobby. It's going to be a good night. You absolutely right. So let me ask you a question. A lot of guys will listen to. the TV version. They'll get the TV version

and they'll try to pick up the quarterback's cadence. Blue 17. Blue 17. Ready said. Do you do things like that? Trying to pick up the audio copy. Try to pick up the field copy. Sure. I'm in the, you know,

the quarterback. I'm in the quarterback cadence. I'm also in the, I'm heavy on the office and line. The office and line, I'll tell you everything. Let you know it's run. You know, how long they communicate, how they're sitting, eyes, body language. Yeah, I'm into it all. But especially once I hear the office alignment, you know, talking, they kind of be able to, you know, for my reason, everything,

I'm kind of able to pick it up and play faster. Especially when you're at home because it's hard for them to hear. So they've got to communicate. And as much as he's trying to look at you, he got to look. But now they kind of hold hands a little bit, but he's still got to kind of look inside. And, hey, all you need is a half a step. That's all you need.

It ain't no, hey, ain't no, look, these guys are good. You ain't just fin to just beat these guys. But that half a step that you get, that you get on the edge, and once you get them shoulders, hey, once he turned, tell you. Bro, you're not fend to ride me up the field. I'm going to get skinny and I'm going to get narrow. Because I'm going to get the quarterback on the ground.

So before the 2019 draft, you funded your own sports agency, the Rishon Gary Sports. What inspired you to do something like this? Going to Michigan, being able to sit in, you know, our Ross Business School, I had a couple of classes. I was blessed and fortunate to have a couple of classes in there. And just, you know, actually talk about, you know, business models, marketing. I actually got to, you know, talk about life after football. And it's something that, you know, I really never thought about.

and I'm like, you know, we could be real. You know, football is the biggest thing. This is not going to stop. It's only going to get bigger and bigger and keep growing and growing. So I'm like, you know, when I get old and then when I do hang my cleats up, you know, how can I, you know, stay around, you know,

the game, you know, give the game to young guys, especially in positions where, you know, I wish I would have had growing up. And then also to leave a legacy, you know, for my kids, kids and hopefully they kids. So we're just trying to build it, become a powerhouse. I like that. That's dope.

That's dope. Let's see the market. Rashon, you do realize that division you end. You got the Packers. They won 14 games last year. You got the Lions. They won 15 games last year. You got the Bears.

And many believe they're much improved with the addition as Ben Johnson as their head coach. Coach, they've added pieces on the offensive line to protect Caleb Williams. Defense seemed to be flying around on the new DC, Dennis Allen and yourself, the Packers. You guys made the playoff. Jordan Love had the surgery on his left hand, but, hey, everybody say he's good to go. What does the Packers need to do to win this division? Get a home game and say, hey, let whatever happens happen after that.

We got to go out there and we just got to play Packers ball. Like I said, we've been growing up from OTAs through camp. I'm talking about even finishing the pregame, I mean, preseason on a high note. You know, we've got to keep everything flowing. Like I said, especially on defense. We've been speaking the same way, which I've been seeing the offense, you know, do their thing, connecting, even in the special teams, you know, the guys is flying down, understand that's a very crucial part and an important part

of the game. So all we got to do is be consistent and I have the mindset to go one and no every week. Let me ask you this. At practice, do you are, if you see something from like your offensive line, like, bro, that's a tail. I can tell when you run the ball. I tell when you're passing the ball. tell how you're trying to you're trying to set me up do you guys communicate like that do they tell

you hey rachan bro i hey you you gave this move away do you guys communicate like that with one another yeah that's iron sharp and iron um especially when i'm trying to work on something um i'm big on that um i'm talking about both my tackles coming to me um like what bother so of course i'm gonna tell them everything i don't like to do so i can work on that and practice and vice versa um you know me working on certain moves okay you telegraph that man if you would have sold it up extra set you feel me or oh you got me on that move i'm like i you know keep working things like that but yeah it's iron sharp and iron practice and me with holding information for season that's not going better the team so i'd rather make it hard on me now so for the guys that do give it

the winning season i can play a little bit faster oh man that's great man thank you rachan for joining us man stay healthy best of luck hey this year you was uh what hold on let me just define where you were you was number uh you was number 80 man you drop 50 you down 30 spots. So when we come back and have this conversation next week, next year, you got to be in the top 30. You got to be 30 above. Well, 30 above. It's going to be great talking.

See you then. Thank you, bro. Best of luck. Stay healthy. Good luck to the pack of this season. And we're going to talk to you. I appreciate you. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Appreciate you, bro. Have a good one. Rishon Gary, ladies and gentlemen.

Ocho, Shiloh, Shiloh, Shiloh, Shal Sanders was ejected after throwing a punch at Bill's tight-in, Zach Davidson. Should he have been ejected? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't do that. You got to be able to control yourself, especially in that moment. I know the tight-in, you know, they was locked up a little bit.

He was probably trying to rough-hide him a little bit, but you have to be able to control yourself. You've got to be able to control your emotions, especially in moments like that, especially in the game, especially in the game. So, you know, you have no choice. If you throw a punch, if anything, if your arm extends and it touches the other individual you going out the game every oh cho he in the open field that's not like an offense and defense of liminal joe you're in the pile and can't nobody see you tried to hit

the guy the bad judge and the side judge that was you standing right there they're right there you know sometimes you got players that have provoked you sometimes yes we're going to see the person that that swings last they don't see that and I never see who initiated, but they're going to always see the person who swings last. So you got to be able to. I ain't trying to get you back in front of the ref. I'm going to try to get you back when you ain't thinking about it. Because if I do something then, you brace it.

All you're going to do is turn to the ref. You see the age? Hey, ref, you see what 84 did? You see what he did? Don't worry about it. I'm going to get you back. It's going to look like a place. I'm going to get your ass back.

Yeah. Or I'm going to get your team. Somebody. Somebody going to get it. Somebody going to get got. They got your color uniform on. He ain't had nothing to do with it, but that's your teammate. Hey, y'all know how it is.

It didn't work. Hey, I'm going to get you with somebody that's related to you. Yeah, but I agree with you, Ocho. Shalom knows better. Shilohle knows he can't do a situation like that. Bro, you can't hurt that. He got on the helmet. So let's just say, but think about you hit him.

Okay. hit him in the head or what happened you break your hand you'll get a penalty in this situation you got tossed now even if you do rate the wrong you do know when you get thrown out a game mocho you know that's like 20 20 20 30 thousand dollars so here it let's just say for the sake of argument oh yeah yeah how much is uh an ejection in the football game it's like 25 30 thousand not that much yeah the hell you say oh my my god damn celebrations with 25 30 thousand I know but you stayed in the game you did your celebration they called you to get tossed out of a game

yeah i'm i'm curious especially your first time offense too they're gonna take all that into account actually like 32 000 they go they're gonna let them appeal that they're gonna let them appeal at they're gonna be a lot they're gonna be a lot Who are you appealing to? So let me ask you a question. Is Mert Hanks? No, I think it's Brooks, Derek Brooks, James, Thrash, and John Runyon. So Brooks and Thrash and then Runyon is over.

James Thrash? Oh, got damn James Thrash. What? Hey, wait, Derek Brooks, you're talking about. He threw a punch. Yeah. 40 for fighting. And hold on, you said Derek Brooks.

You said about double nickel? Yeah. Okay, I didn't know that. Man, they're going to take him. They're going to take him. I mean, Brooks had trashed. They're very friendly, but some things. Yeah, I know.

Yeah. Physical contact with an official is 40,000. The second offense is 80,000. 81,000 verbal or non-physical offense with it against official. So if you curse in or something, that's 32,000. Next one.

Woo. Fighting. 40,000 for the first offense. $40,686. A second offense is $81,000. Woo. Woo. So unsportsman-like conduct.

You know what? Maybe they label it unsports them like conduct. Okay. Maybe see. But what did they call it during the game? What did they say during the game? Because if you throw a ball into the stands, that's $8,100, Ocho. What should play?

Uniform. If you're throwing the ball in the stands, still. I know. I ain't throw one. Chin strap, shoulder pads, thigh, knee pads. That's $50, that's $5,800. Unapproved visor or tent. Lack of brand.

Marks, 5,700, personal messages, about 11.5. Damn. Gang signs. Ooh. Gang signs. Don't do that. Don't do that. That's all I got for, Yocho.

Hey, that's a gang sign, too. Yeah, that's all I got. That's all I got for you. But I just say, look, the emotions got the best of him. You know, you're fighting for a raw. monster spot. I don't know what, like I said, I don't know what happened. I just, you know, sort of steal shots of it. Like, so I don't know if he did this or he did that. And blocking him all the way down the field. It's like, yeah, he, you know, obviously

Titan came off, got up on the safety. And they just, he's trying to drive him back, driving back. And I'm assuming. Oh, he tried to dump it. He tried, yeah, he tried to do it. Yeah, that's all. A little rough house. And, uh, we find out what they, what they call it in the game? And I, you know, you just got to be smart in a situation like that because you are fighting for a position. You don't want to do anything that costs you position. But, you know, hey, I trust me, sometime with emotion is high, logic is low. We've all done things that like we look back at it like, man, why the hell I do that?

Why? and Chador probably like as he's walking to the tunnel like everybody should do her excuse me shallow everybody's going to get got if you play long enough somebody going to get you with a block somebody going to go pancake you somebody going to route your ass up you go get God it's like being in the NBA you going to get dunked on

you play long enough you'll get dunked on I don't care I don't care who you are you're going to get got offensive linemen going to get beat he's going to get run over defensive linemen going to get blocked he going to get pancake

quarterback going to get hit all that's going to happen because it's the game of football and those guys are really good that you're going against they're really good I know you're really good also but they're really good and somebody that's really good

can make somebody else that really that's really good look bad I don't think people realize people just think that oh he's such and such he's supposed to win all the time no hell you not no even Barry Barnes he didn't strike out often but he did strike out Tony Gwen didn't strike out often but he did strike out he did get nobody hit 500 hit six 700 so obviously but you know I ain't really never got that mad don't you

not the game I mean somebody have somebody done some dirty stuff? Yeah. And I got their ass back. I mean, I'm trying to think what I ever. The only time I was about I went out in the beat Ray's ass, that's it. You heard me? You're going to beat.

You're going to beat. Mouth and a mouth and a beat rate all up and down, M&T Bank Stadium. He's lucky Air Reid grabbed me, boy. I was feeling good that day, too. Oh, you're feeling good? I was feeling good.

I was feeling good. He didn't even know. Ray didn't even know. Like, he hit me, right? Fight. He stayed. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Go ahead. What did you say on you? He hit me. I went for the slant. It was too high. I know. I saw it.

And listen. My helmet went flying. So once I got my helmet, once I got my helmet, now I was getting ready to walk up on him. And he didn't know I was going to hit him in the stomach. So, you know, when you hit somebody in the stomach, the first thing they do is they go, they bend down.

Do you catch you with uppercut? Yeah. And so, I mean, listen, man, man, boy, I'll tell you, boy, that 52 would have been 25 when I would double ray that day, boy. I don't think you had, I don't think you had all your bearings. I mean, I think you were, I think you was about to be the hairless foot, the headless football player because I thought your head was in that helmet. It was.

It was. It was. But you're going to get this work, though. Hey, that's one of the things I miss, though. Like, I know I play around a lot. I make a lot of jokes. I'm always laughing and stuff. What you miss?

Being able to compete. Not against anybody. I'm talking about being able to compete against those Steelers teams with Ike Taylor and James Harrison and Larry Foote and Joey Porter. And, oh, man. Yeah, I thought you was going to say you miss, you miss getting hit. I don't mind that either.

Listen, you know, I was like, I was like Gumby, I ain't kidding about that getting hit. You got on, you got a, I got up from every single hit except one. 11 years, one hit. I didn't get up. That was it. When you pop up fast, they know they got you. Now, you know, I pop up fast talking trash, though.

Every time. It was some good days, man. I miss playing them Ravens, man, them defenses, man. dog that was such a joy such a joy because you had no you had no choice but to show up on there's no weakness there was no weakness nowhere

division games are always tough second level was good secondary was good and here go my crazy I'm talking trash all week long to take all the pressure off for everybody else on our team so all the pressure was on me

now all y'all got to do just go out there and just do your job nah because they cheap shot and everybody man why you two man because tell sharp to say shut up okay man sharp leave alone you ain't got to block him well you need to block better yeah i i enjoy it that way man i don't know um look i you know what i i bet i bet the time called him from the i bet you time called uh shallow in the locker room of course man what did you man what is you doing what that's exactly what come on man what you doing really so you think so let me ask your question you hit him you think you heard him you think there was a greater

chance you hurt your own self or you heard he you could hurt him you hurt him or you hurt your own team or you hurt him or his team because that's how that's how you know there's a i don't know if he like he ain't really no time ain't really no yeller he's more of a a talk of a talk and a stern and in a stern way to get his porthouse me I'm like bro what what what do you do it really you thought that was your that was your answer demand demand demand and drove you like a Winnebago so now you mad because you couldn't get him up off you you take a swipe at him oh man Hey, Shiloh, you're going to get the weight room, bro.

Them guys, them guys, big, them tight ends. Hey, you know, I was just strong, but I wasn't, you know, I was 228. Them guys, now, them tight as not. They're six, four, six, five, two, 50, 260. Hey, you got to drop anger on them, Shiloh. Get up off of me. The hell you think you to see this. You know, and Prime got to be careful because Shilip were hitting back with

you were the same one at there fight. Andre Ryzen. So how you sitting in telling me about talking about talking, you was at there. Bad time, I, I remember, but I remember that like, he's like he tried to show, he tried to show I in my house. You can't come to my house. He was going at it, boy, but they were. Oh, yeah. I think Dre forgot that time was left-handed. He was, yeah, yeah, he was, he was looking for the right and time would kill me with the left. I think, I think that's what happen. See, that's what gets your own show because you think most of the time and I think most people are right-handed. What's the percentage of right-handed people? It ain't no 50-50 like a

coin flip. It's got to be like 70-30 right of the lefty. And so you automatically assume somebody right-handed. And so you're like, you're looking for that right and he just got this upside your head with a cock, got, got, got. Yeah. And see, the thing was time was smart. See, timing and when punching me time they want to break his hand open open time with open hand in it but I think I think child will learn I mean hey you let hey if hopefully he makes the squad and he can get because this thing of you on the practice squad oh cho you're making 40,000 a week they're going to take your first three weeks going to the NFL you're going to be all right you're going to be all right

like and that's what's amazing that's what the thing is that those fans man they're like damn I could have used that 40,000 too in the heat of battle your squad relies on you

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