Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Bubba Wallace historic win + Aaron Rodgers responds to Terry Bradshaw | Nightcap

Episode Date: July 28, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Bubba Wallace being the first black driver to win on Indianapolis Motor Speedway oval, the NFL plans to fine more than 100 players for violating the NFL’s Ticket Resale policy, and Aaron Rodgers responds to Terry Bradshaw’s criticism & much more! 02:01 - Bubba Wallace12:01 - NFL fining players and employees in Resale Scandal23:37 - Terry Bradshaw calls ARod move a joke39:41 - Shemar Stewart and Bengals reach agreement 46:01 - Tua looks to rebuild relationship with Tyreek (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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event of the evening. Bubba Wallace becomes just the second black driver to ever win a NASCAR race. He won the Brickyard 400 Ocho and this is not just any race. This is what they call, in golf they have the Slam. In tennis they have the Slam. And in race car they call it the Slam and sometimes they call it the Crown Jewel. So Daytona, that is their biggest race. That is their Super Bowl. Then you have the Brickyard, excuse me.

Then you have the Coca-Cola 600, which is in Charlotte. Then Labor Day, you have Darlington, and this is the brickyard that held it ending. So he won one of the crown jewels. He won one of the slams. So Wendell Scott was the first black NASCAR driver. He was the first black driver to actually win a race on the NASCAR circuit.

I think it was probably Winston Cup back then. But Bubba Wallace, I'm excited. I had him on club, Shay Shay, a couple of years ago when I first started. And he was amazing. And I know he was excited to drive for the Jordan XL team but him and Michael Jordan and Danny Hamlin co-own this team and Bubba Wallace, he finally gets into Victory Lane at a big time event and I'm very, very pleased for him.

Ocho what did you follow any of this you big NASCAR fan? Yeah I'm somewhat of a big NASCAR fan I've been down in Carolina I've been down to Daytona multiple times to go to races it's a great great moment great historical moment for Bubba Wallace a congratulations to him and his team on this achievement but I think there are a lot of people that don't really appreciate NASCAR because they view it as, and just cars going in circles.

But obviously not understanding that there's a method to the madness. There's a lot of strategy that goes into it. And again, like other sports that people don't watch, you'll never understand it until you are actually in that atmosphere and you're able to experience what it's like. For one, me being in Daytona and sitting in those stands with those earplugs in, it does something to me. It just does something to you even if you don't enjoy that

actual sport itself. But listen, for those of you that are in the chat that are listening, just give it a chance. Give NASCAR a chance. go there, enjoy, sit outside the atmosphere and feel the power of the engines. They're just that, it's hard for me to even put it in the words and explain it to you because it's just something that you have to experience on itself. It's like going to the roller coaster ride, riding a roller coaster and then trying to explain to someone else what it's like.

You have to be there, you have to experience it for yourself. You got to. You got to. So for those of you watching me at some point, if you have a track near you, just go experience NASCAR, man, and you'll get a better understanding. Even if you don't like cars going in circles, you will enjoy that experience. Yeah. You know, Ocho, they're teams.

And you try to pull your teammate along. You know, you try not to, you know, they're teams and you know, you try to pull your teammate along, you know, you try not to, you know, what, how you're going to, how do you set, how you're going to set the race up. If you can get to the front and you can slow it down, you know, certain things like that. But you know, Bubba has gone through a lot, you know, it's not like I said, it's kind of like with anything there when you were the, when they're not a whole lot of you kind of like Tiger and golf, they're not, there were not a whole lot of you kind of like Tiger and golf, there were not a whole lot of Tiger Woods. He had, you know, Calvin Pete and Charlie Sifford

and Dent to follow, to follow. And I think Bubba only had, I think Wendell Scott, that's the only one off the top of my head is that it's Wendell Scott back in the sixties and in early seventies. But for Bubba to win one of the crown jewels, one of the slams, and I know how bad he wants to win Daytona because that's the Super Bowl.

And NASCAR is one of the few events to have their Super Bowl at the beginning of the season. Most people have their most important at the end of the season. You have the World Series, you have the Super Bowl, you have the NBA Finals. But in NASCAR, Daytona, their biggest race is at the first race. But for Bubba to win the Brickyard, obviously, he was extremely excited. I watched him afterwards and you know, you talk about how he talked

to Jordan and Jordan say he was extremely proud of him and he's gonna have a couple of drinks for him and I'm sure Bubba is gonna have a couple of drinks on his own because that's a huge honor. No other black had ever won on the big oval at Indy. Like I said, that's, whew. Man, that's a huge honor, Ojo. That's a huge honor. And I'm extremely proud for Bubba.

Like I said, I had an opportunity to talk to him and I know he wants to do well and he had some lean years. Had some lean years. Things weren't going his way. DNP and things of that nature wasn't finishing in the top 10. But hopefully they've kind of got this thing turned around

and they can be serious for the rest of the year getting to the NAS final uh you know getting to the uh the uh the nascar playoffs and who knows um but that would be that would be that would be a huge honor if he could win if he could win the cup boy hey boy boy boy that hey listen you talk about me talk about making history yeah that's making history that they talk big. Yeah. Well, what they told us done with, but I'm talking about, you know, cause you know, now what they do is that they have the NASCAR playoffs. And so you get you accumulate enough points and then you get in there in each

week, they will people on where you're now you draw and now they drop. And then it comes down to, you know, Hey, it might come down to the last race were only a handful of people maybe two or three guys have a realistic chance of winning the race and so that's That would be that I think you know, obviously Daytona is the biggest but if you can win that you can win the the playoffs Whoo, we? But I'm extremely I'm extremely excited for Bubba. He went through some things last year. You remember the noose incident that happened and there was a big hullabaloo about that. And they said it was a pull where people would pull the garage door down and

just made like that. He didn't think so. But he seems to be on the right track now. And it's about racing because that's what it comes down to. It's about winning. And I think Michael Jordan and Danny Hamlin has given him a great car to drive. NASCAR is very competitive. Yes. It's a very expensive sport. Very.

You know, and- Hey, the more you win, right, the better the sponsors. I know you got Mike. I know you got, you know know you got brother, brother, Hamlin, right? Yeah, Danny Hamlin. Yeah, but listen, the more you win, the better the sponsors, the more money that you're allowed to pour into your car.

The more you're allowed to pour into your car, the better performing car you get. So, I mean, that's a whole nother story. Yeah, you got Joe Gibbs and you got Jack Rauch and you got Penske and you got Rick Hendricks. Rick Hendricks is the big guy in NASCAR. Big man. You know, and those guys are based out of all those guys.

You know, Charlotte is the NASCAR capital. That's where the NASCAR Hall of Fame is located up there in Mooresville and Mechanicsville in Kannapolis. That's where all the guys have their garages and you know, do their testing up there. But this is a huge honor. I'm extremely proud for Bubba Wallace and hopefully he can keep it going. I'm extremely happy for Michael Jordan and Danny Hamlin. Because like you said, Ocho, the more you win, the more sponsors, because this is not, this is not, this is not a cheap sport. It's not easy either.

No, no, no, no. It's not easy either. I don't, I don't think, I wish, I wish I, I could talk NASCAR, the Pacifics on what it takes. Like I can talk football or I can talk soccer, I could talk boxing, but how you have to strategize yourself like you're running the 800, or you have to strategize yourself like you're running the 400, you know? Like you can't just go out there and step on the pedal

and just, you know, you gotta worry about gas, gotta worry about tires, like it's so much that goes into it. Yeah, yeah. Outside of just the quarter. How, what is the fuel, how many laps can we go? Or if it comes down to it, are we going to push it? Because if we push it, there's a chance

on the final lap we run out of gas. We've seen that happen before. My teammates, hey guys, hey, let's find somebody, let's draft. Bubba was telling me how they cut the engine and coast and then fired back up to go again. So there's a lot of strategy. Like you said, you just don't step on the gas.

Let's go around the track as fast as we can. We don't wanna blow the engine. That's what testing's for. You get an idea of how the tires are burning, the type of track, what's going on. Am I gonna stay low? Am I gonna get high? What's the best time to pass?

Where's the best areas to pass? There's so much going on. Sometimes you drift. You know, you know about drift. Draft. I mean, draft, I'm sorry. Yeah. I used to play NASCAR.

I used to play NASCAR on, what is that, PlayStation? PlayStation, Xbox, one of them. Oh yeah, and then you get guys that bump draft you. When they draft you, hit you in the bump, move you out the way, and now they go. So they shoot right by you like a slingshot. Yeah, you sleep.

That's what that's the mood they call it. They call it a slingshot. You know, but it's very competitive. And sometimes guys, hey, you spent by, I forgot what you did last time you spent me. I'm gonna spin your ass out. I think that was 79 when it was, who was it? Was it Cale Yarbrer and Bobby Allison got into it and Richard Penny

This is this is missing that ended up passing on the last light that ended up. He got number seven was it Was missing epic fights in NASCAR boy Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, they throw hands Oh you wreck me You wrecked my oh, yeah, they. Yeah, they throw heads in NASCAR. Yeah. It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and Wrestling with Freddie is all over it.

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and roughly two dozen club employees who were found to be in violation of the NFL tickets resale policy for reselling Super Bowl tickets at a profit. Under agreement between the league and NFL players association, players who violated rules will be fined one and a half times the face value of the ticket and lose their allotted tickets to the next two Super Bowls. If they're playing in the game, players will have a chance to purchase seats. Those are who declined punishment could be suspended by commissioner Roger Good day.

Oh, that's tough. That's tough. Um, you know, it's unfortunate for those players, but I don't mean to say it, but that's been going on for a very long time, but you ain't here. Yeah. And I'm not telling what I heard. I'm telling what I know. And we not talking about players. You know, we talk about even those that are that sit in

higher positions have always sold their tickets for profit. This is nothing new. I think there's a way to clamp down on it. Maybe it's getting out of control now based on what the players are making from a profitable standpoint. But with the money they're making these days, the players is probably sending the tickets or those that don't make as much as others. If you understand what I'm saying. I do. Yeah. I think the thing is Ochoa's look,

the reason why they increase face value of the tickets because they find out they were scalping them and they said, well, if you're gonna pay $5,000 on the resale, we might as well go ahead and put them at 5,000 face value. If you're gonna pay that on the secondary market, you might as well play this on the primary market. And so, and plus you have to understand y'all do realize the NFL know the lot number, the seating, the seating section. They know all of that.

Everything, every, everything. But this is the first time it's so funny. Like, yeah, they're cracking down on that every Superbowl though. This has been going on every Superbowl, but who knows how long even even when I was playing. I'm sure it happened when you were playing. But why are they cracking down on it this year, specifically? Why all of a sudden? I'm just curious. Cause you man, you getting FBI involved

because people ain't paying taxes. Cause at the end of the day, R.I.S. gonna want their cuddles, yo. See that's where you run a file at. Because you sold something. Okay, Uncle Sam say where my cut right right right right right. Oh, yeah. Uncle Sam gonna won't hit cut and NFL been trying to crack down on this they look you want to go to the game they says look, you

might as well just go ahead and come through us and pay. I think the face value ticket when I was playing was probably 325, 400. They got face value tickets now, probably cheapest ticket to get in, probably 1500 to 2000. And then it goes from there, 2,000, 3,500, 4,000, 50 yard line seats. I mean, obviously, you know, if you get a suite,

might be anywhere from a million to two, two and a half million dollars, considering where it's positioned on the field. But I'm not surprised because I kind of saw the direction once they started upping the prices to what the resellers would get for same said tickets. So I'm really not surprised, Ocho, that they're gonna crack down because look,

NFL's a business. Always has been. And it's kinda like if you run a restaurant, if you don't keep a closed town, they gonna give you alcohol and they gonna give you food away. Cause they gonna have their homeboys and their homegirl come sit at the bar

and they gonna drink for free. And they gonna come in there and they gonna get meals and they gonna get them for free. And if you're not careful, they gonna get meals and they gonna get them for free. And if you're not careful, they'll be giving some of your prime good stuff out the back door. So the NFL says, you know what, we finna crack down on this. Now we done let it slide and they probably told them

about you, you know they first come around at the beginning of the year. They were down a little bit now. And they used to put down, they had a little bit more season on it. Okay. Y'all getting out of control. Cause they like, hold on man.

Kansas city. Ooh, going for the three P. Oh, they're thinking about, oh man, they got Jay, they got the Eagles, Jayler hurt. You could double charge that. You could throw, you could sell them for double, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. So you probably selling those two and you know, you could sell them for double, maybe. Yeah, yeah. So you probably selling those,

and you know, you got good seats. Absolutely. Especially if you're one of the teams that are in it, you got great seats. At least eight of the 15. Cause I think they gave, you know, you got two comps and you bought the other 13. Eight were really good seats and then seven,

I mean, look, you're in the Superbowl. So they like, they was way, way up there, but they were decent seats. But you can, you know, but things are different now, Ocho. Things are different in there. I think the biggest thing that I will say is as time changes, you must be willing to adapt

to the changing of the times. You can't say like you and I, we came up, oh man, Ocho, they've been doing this from the beginning of the times. Yeah, they did. But they cracking down on it now. And they cracking your head. And they tried to do Ocho.

It used to be, you could like, hey man, you using your Super Bowl tickets? Nah, hey, can I get them? Hey, such and such, get my two Super Bowl tickets to Ocho. Let him buy. They can go pick them up too. They can go pick them up. Pick them up, yep.

I remember that. Now, they done put a situation where like, you got to come pick the tickets up. They won't let you transfer them as easily. And you know, it used to be where, I believe your ticket at Will Call, nah, they don't do that anymore. So basically you gotta have the tickets in hand.

Well, nah, they digitally. Well, they used to have, you know, you had to have tickets in hand. Now they mainly do it digitally, scan. And they don't want you transferring the tickets. So you're right. The guys, probably some of the guys that are doing this, they're not the guys that's making

20, 30, $40 million a year. They're probably guys that are, you know, on the practice squad. Yeah, trying to make a little change. Trying to drive them, hey, you know, little 18, little $18,000 for two tickets. That good little, that'll hold me over, okay. Quick, and listen, and people have to understand too,

when you think about the NFL, well how the hell they know what players did it? NFL knows everything. Cause they know the tickets. Not only do they know the tickets, they know everything. Everything. They know what everybody is doing on all 32 teams who they hang with, where they live, where they spend,

where they go, where they shut down, everything. Do people understand that the NFL does their homework so diligently well, not only before you make it, even while you're still in it? Man, they went back and talked to my elementary teacher. My elementary teacher, why you talking to my elementary teacher about what I did in elementary? I wasn't even the same Chad back then.

What you talking about? They also like tickets. Well, that's why if you have season tickets, you got to be careful who you let sit in those seats, because they act a fool. Not only do they throw them out now they take your season tickets.

Remember how to the Detroit fair who that Detroit fan that got into it and they took a season ticket. Oh, that's right. He was right screaming at the coach screaming at Yes, Yes. Yes. So they know

because they got it allotted. Okay, the Cincinnati Bengals they got this allotment of tickets. These are where the section of the bingo tickets are going to be. This is where the Bronco tickets will be. This is what Green Bay this is where this one there is where that one, there's worth that one. So they know. Yeah. At this point in time now guys, it's just not worth it. And I get it. Try to pick up your little extra quick cash,

cause you get off seven tickets, you probably looking at, you know, and the problem is you run running into Ocho with IRS, because you're taking cash and you're not paying taxes on that money. Uncle Sam wanted his cut. It's just like anything, alcohol, when they found out they could tax it,

now all of a sudden you didn't need the bootleg. Cigarettes, once they could find out how to tax it, you didn't need, hey, you didn't need to smuggle them. Weed, once they found out they could tax it, you didn't need, hey, you didn't, hey, you didn't need to smuggle them. Weed, once they found out they could tax it, you see what they did with it. Now, if y'all would just come on and say, well, Uncle Sam, I sold these for 70, here's your 35, Uncle Sam said, do what you do.

But you gonna cut, hey, cut me in or cut it out? Wait, you say that? Cut me in or cut it out? Like Joe said, Joe said, cut me in or cut it out. Wait, you say that? Cut me in or cut it out. Like Jose, Jose cut me in or cut it out. I like that, I gotta say that. I like that. That's it. Uncle, you know how it is, Uncle Sam, it don't matter how small.

Man, what Uncle Sam want $35 for? Just say, you want the whole 35, he want his 17 and a half. That ain't mean it. Boy. He gonna get it. Now don't play with Uncle Sam now. You can play with a lot of people.

Don't play with him. Listen. Them people don't play, you hear me? Check, boy. They don't. They don't. It ain't, I done got audited for a dollar. Yeah. What they don't It Hey, I don't got audited for a dollar. Yeah, I got audited. I got audited one time old show in the

Envelope that they sent it in calls more than what I what I owed It was just the principle of the matter. Right, right, right, right Man, don't don't blame them people about that money cut because a lot of time they know everything Because every what you got in your account and they'll let that interest draw. Now the thing that you'll have to learn about Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam is never gonna give you the interest on your money when he late,

that he's gonna charge you for when you late. So he already know and they'll let that thing go say, oh, man, now he can't pay. Let me come on in. Let me make an example out of him. Cause they want the high profile because if they get the high profile, they's like, well hell, he had millions

and they did something bad to him, what they gonna do to me? Just go ahead, just go ahead and pay them people their money and leave Uncle Sam alone cause Uncle Sam don't play by his. But I'm not surprised that they took this because I kind of being close to the situation and hearing kind of felt they were kind of

headed this heading in this direction. I remember when they implemented this Ocho, they were going to the three and the two and the three and the $4,000 face value ticket, the $10,000 face value ticket because they found out people was willing to pay that. They said, man, why they charge $10,000 for some Chrome Heart jeans?

Because people are paid for it. That's why, the same reason they charge $1,000 for a steak. People are paid for it. And if people are paid for it, there'll be somebody there to provide whatever service is needed. You want a tank? Yeah, I need a tank.

It gonna cost you five, get me the tank. You need a bazooka? You need a tank? Yeah, I need a tank. It gonna cost you five, 10, get me the tank. You need a bazooka? You need a missile? Whatever you need, somebody will be able to fill that need. Always. Man, Ocho, I need two other Super Bowl tickets. Okay?

Hey man, such and such need two other Super Bowl tickets. Well, let me go to a couple of different teams. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I got you. Right. NFL said nah, we're gonna do away with this. If you wanna go watch one of our events, you're gonna have to come through us, you have to pay.

Cause all that value and that money that's being made is going back to them. Yes. All back to them. How you think they pay each team $432,600,000? You would think like, man, what do NFL care about $5,000, $10,000, $15,000? Because it adds up. It all adds up no matter how small it is. It adds up. It all adds up no matter how small it is. It adds up.

Pen is make dollars. You ain't got to tell me twice. Yeah. If it make dollars, it makes sense. With a C and with a S. So yeah, but I'm not surprised that they're taking this thing and I'm glad they kept it anonymous. You don't know,

because if it's somebody, the last thing you want Ochoa is somebody that's making 50 million and they're selling two tubos taking for $20,000. So I'm glad, hopefully they get this thing resolved and you see, you know, hey, they know everything. Yeah, literally. They know everything.

They know about the gambling because they're gonna turn, look, the draft Kings and the bets and the this and the that, they want to be able to still be able to bet on football and basketball and baseball. If you think for one second, they not gonna turn your ass in? Yeah, phone numbers, emails, anything tracking back to you? And any irregularities,

because that's what they're looking for. Damn, why this man keep betting on the unknown old boy? Man, why he, man, he ain't finished the game yet. Let me make note of that. Damn. They, ooh, something ain't adding up. Oh Joe, before Aaron Rodgers side with the Steelers, former Steelers great quarterback,

Super Bowl winning quarterback, Terry Bradshaw called the move a joke. Terry added, what are you gonna do? Bring him in for one year? Are you kidding me? That guy needs to stay in California, go somewhere, chew on bark, and whisper to the gods out there.

Rodgers responding this week saying, I whisper to the gods every single day. He's got an idea of what he thinks about me based on what I've done. The documentary, what's said, darkness retreat, whatever the hell you want to talk about, I love to get to know Terry on a deeper level. I feel like he gave me a chance to get to know him.

Then we have a good friendship. Ocho? Yeah. Honest assessment. Yeah. What do you expect from Aaron Rodgers this year and what do you expect from the Steelers this year? Listen Aaron Rodgers only has to do one thing facilitate the ball and do his best not to make mistakes. That's all he has to do. You got DK. That's one nice target Defensively aware the Steelers are going to win football games we just need Aaron Rodgers to manage the games and be a game manager a Monarch that most people see as an insult which it is not and don't turn the ball over Defense will take care of the rest because that's where the Steelers identity is now from now on. I mean it's the best players on that side of the ball. It is what it is and if we can get

flashes if we can get flashes of brilliance of the old Aaron Rodgers so be it thank you but the people on offense are going to have to be the one to uplift Aaron Rodgers because he's not the same quarterback he used to be where he can uplift everyone else around him it's completely opposite now. I agree with you. I agree with everything that you said. You look at their best player, they're on that side of the ball, the defensive side of the ball.

You look at TJ Watts, you look at Cam Hayward, you look at Jalen Ramsey, you look at Darius Lay, Joy Porter Jr. Their best players are on that side of the ball. Crazy. And so Aaron just needs, and Aaron has never been a heavy turnover guy. No. He threw double digit interceptions, but that's not normally Aaron's MO. I think he only has a

maybe two or three seasons in which he's had double digit turnover interceptions. He's not we've seen him throw four interceptions over the course of the season. We've seen him throw five interceptions, six interceptions over the course of the season. He's normally very, very good with the ball. And that is the Aaron Rodgers. They need the old Aaron Rodgers, not an old Aaron Rodgers. And if he can give them that,

give them that level of consistency. I think they're gonna be in every game. If you think you're gonna just go in there and blow the doors off, that ain't going to happen. That defense ain't going to happen. I know the names look good on paper, but all the players that they've acquired are proven not on paper, but on the field. So you get those type of players, your Jalen Ramsey, your Darryl Slays, your Joey Porter Jr., who is very, very good, who doesn't get the copters, because everything is always talked about from an off-fence standpoint,

especially referring to the quarterback position. You got TJ Watt, Kamen, man, listen, they gonna be all right. In that D, we're gonna have them in games. We just need Aaron Rodgers not to bottle it. They gonna be all right. I agree, I agree. Do you believe the Steelers will accept it?

Yeah, yeah, cause listen,'re not there to make friends. We're not here to make friends. We're here to do one thing. We got one singular focus, win and do the best we can to have a good record, a decent enough record to make to the playoffs. And from that point on, we know it's four games after that. That's all it is. It becomes a new season. Four games after that. Can we get to that point? Well, the Steelers have gone to the playoffs,

but they haven't won a playoff game since 2016. I think that was the year that they ended up beating, think they beat Kansas City. Remember they went to Kansas City and LeBion had that outstanding game and they ended up winning that game. But if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong. So chat, don't hold that against me. But I don't think they've won a playoff game since 2016. That's almost been 10 years, Ocho. For the Steelers? Yeah. That's the Steelers. The funny thing

about it is they haven't, it's been 10 years, but they've had winning seasons consistent. That's how hard it is to get into the playoffs when you're in that AFC especially that damn division we in. Yeah. Look II think the thing is is that look these guys like Terry Terry's way over my Ontario with the number one overall draft pick in 1970. Hell, I was born in 68. So two years after I was born Terry was you know, I came in the league in league in 90 So that so there is at least a what a 20 year age gap So if I'm if I'm 57 Terry's gotta be 77. Yeah

Yeah Yeah, so he came out so he had to came if he didn't rich or that they weren't rich or like that back then So he came out at 21 22 in 1970 and it's what 19, it's a 2025 now. That's 55, that's 55 years. So he gotta be, he's gotta be 77, maybe 78. Hell, let me, you know what, let me Google this. Let me see how I would tell you.

But it's hard for me to believe he's anything other than that, Ocho. Yeah. It's hard for me to believe he's anything other than that, Ocho. Yeah. Cause like I said, it's a Tim Bradshaw. He's 76, born in 1948. He'll be 77 September 2nd.

So I'm right on it. Yeah, you on it. You was a man, you good with numbers on it. Yeah, you on it. You good with numbers on you. You a mad person? Hey, like I said, I don't think they read shirt a whole lot back then because, you know, Collingwood tried to get your ass up out of there. They weren't trying to pay for an extra year. But I think the thing is that if you look at those old, old guys, you play football, you keep your mouth shut, you go home.

Yeah, that's old. All that other stuff, it annoys them. It does, but listen, you just said something earlier. When we were talking about the Super Bowl tickets and about adapting, some of the old players from that era, back in those times, they had a way of doing things, but now, listen, we've moved on and advanced in certain areas, especially the game

of football. Everybody doesn't act that way. Everybody's not a robot in their approach to the game and how they play or see it. So they need to adapt as well, which many of them haven't. Many of them haven't. No, no, because I think the greatest key to survival is adaptability. And because the players were that way, the coaches were that way, ownership was that way. And so they don't see this like, bro, and when Terry, Terry won four Super Bowls in six years.

Four. And so he's like, this method is tried and true. The less distractions you present for the team, the better off you're going to be. All this talking and all, but that's how they do it. Because look, some people can party and can hang out, come in at two or three in the morning, get two or three hours sleep and function just fine. That wasn't what I could do. I need to be sleep by 10, 10 30.

I mean, it is what it is. And some guys can hang out and drink and come in and you thought they got the bed at 7 30. And they might've not got the bed to 7 30 that morning. Yeah. Yeah, that's them big boys. Yeah, but that's... But who knows? Aaron said, and we're just taking him at his word, if Terry got to know him on a deeper

level, gave him a chance, who knows, they might hit it off. He might actually like me. Yeah. Because I do think Aaron is a deep thinker. I think sometimes he does overthink things. But hey, man the old guy, man Ocho, you know how it is man. When them old people get set, they set in their ways, Ocho ain't no change. They're not changing. They're not evolving. They think everything works based on how they had success? Well, it worked for me, it should work for you, so you should be doing it this specific way. They're not evolving, they're nothing, they're

not good with technology, the whole nine yards. It's hard when you're only looking through your lens. That's a good one. See, Terry only sees things through his lens. And so, it's tough. It's tough on Joe when you criticize somebody and all of a sudden they come play for the organization that you play for. Now, what works in Terry's favor is that Terry is not really around. He's not like Resty Soul.

Franco used to be around all the time. Mel Blunt is around all the time. Terry, Terry works on him. Terry is not around. And unless Fox have the Super Bowl, he's not gonna be around. So, like I said, I've been around Terry, you know, worked at Fox for years and met Terry.

He's a country guy that, I think, what does he have now? He used to have cattle. I think he got horses now. And you know he gonna tell it like it is no matter who it is too, huh? Hey, he gonna tell you just like I almost said the R word. You're gonna get it to you wrong. Pause. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he is.

And so, you know, his family, like I said, I know in the beginning, but if I'm not mistaken, I think Terry has, I think he raises quarter horses now. I know one point in time he had cattle, he had beef cattle. He was in the cattle business. I don't know if he still has it. He had, you know, big ranch, you know, he had, you know, probably, I don't know. Hey, like speaking of quarter,

10,000 acres. Well, you ever rode quarter horse before? Nah, man, we had a pony. Growing up, we had a pony named Ringo. I had a cousin had a horse named Lady, who was an Appaloosa, you know, white with the black spots on it. But nah, nah.

You know, I ride horses, you know, I'm out there in Davey out there in Miami, I ride horses consistently when I have time, obviously. I got a damn quarter horse, man. They ride, they ride like real, you can feel every goddamn thing. It's like mood of nothing, man. They look at, look, he looking to run, don't you?

He look for you to ride. If you want something to ride or you want something to ride, say to ride or to work, you need to get a saddle horse. Saddle horse? You need to get a horse that's specific. What does a fairbred mean to do? Fairbreds mean to run. Well listen, running is fine, it's just the ride is rough. Now I can't remember Filipino,

Pili, I can't remember the name of the kind of horses they have in the Dominican Republic. They're not that big, but it feels like you're riding on clouds. They go off, okay, it feels like you, I thought it's so smooth and so easy to catch a rhythm. Them goddamn quarter horses, man, you, every goddamn, even if you try, you know, I thought it's so smooth and so easy to, to catch a rhythm. Them goddamn quarter horses, man, you, every goddamn, even if you try, you know, I've been riding for years now, I can't even catch no, I'm like, I can't even. You try to go with it, it's still rough.

Yeah. I can't remember the kind of horses they have in the Dominican Republic. Starts with a P, Philip, something. Might have been a Filipino. Yeah. Felicia, no. I mean, I just like, you know, just, Might have been a Filipino. Yeah. Feliciano. I mean, I just like, you know, just,

just looking at the horse, the muscular structure, and you looking at an animal that's a thousand pounds, that ankle bone is the size of a human. And that's why they have so many leg problems. A horse, you look at a horse, an animal that's a thousand pounds and its ankles are not much bigger than a human. That's why they break so easy. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. That's why you have the problem that you have. And a lot of times what they do when you're breaking,

you put him down because you're asking him to try to put that weight, to redistribute that weight. him to try to put that weight to redistribute that weight. It's sad. That's what it is. But no, but look, I wish Terry and Aaron can get somewhere and the conversation, we never hear about it. We never hear about it because I don't think we need to hear about it. I don't think we need to know about it. But I think there are some things that Terry would probably want to share with Aaron and Aaron would want to share with Terry and they could they could move the ball forward. But but that's something that we shouldn't we don't have to know. Yeah, I'm sure. Listen, I'm sure Aaron's

gonna find a way to get it to have a conversation with him as for his number or Terry gonna find a way to reach out to him. And just because you're playing for my organization, I didn't mean what I said like that. But they're gonna talk and you know Aaron Rodgers, he shares everything. He shares everything. So at some point during the season, it's gonna come out that we had a conversation.

If he's not part of the team, Terry's still gonna let his ass happen on TV. For sure. So you're gonna let him happen. And also Terry doesn't live in Pittsburgh. I think Terry lives in Oklahoma, near the Texas board or something like that. So he's not like one of these great players,

14 players that live in the city in which they played. A lot of time, players that were great, they still live there because, oh Joe, I can cash in, autograph signing and appearances and speaking engagements and things of that nature. The team activities, stuff like that. They can take advantage of that. But Terry, Terry left.

I don't think Terry only lived in Pittsburgh probably during the season. And once the season was over, Terry took off. Yeah. Shamar Stewart and the Cincinnati Big League reached an agreement. Four years fully guaranteed a little less than $19 million. That includes 10.4 million signing bonus.

Every 2025 first round pick is not signed. Stewart spoke after practice saying, there was never me versus anybody. We just didn't see eye to eye at that point. And at the end of the day, I'm happy to be a bingo. I'm happy that I got drafted here. We have a long relationship ahead of us. There's no bad blood. It's just how things go sometimes. I like it. Listen, it's business. It's been, I want to say congratulations to Shamar Stewart and his

representation, Mike Brown, Katie, Troy, Duke, everyone else getting this deal done. Shamar Stewart is now a camp. He didn't miss that, he missed what? One or two days, what? He missed two? He missed a couple of days. He didn't do any of the OTAs and things like that. Right, right, right. The team installs.

He has a lot of catching up to do. I'm hoping, I'm sure he was working, I'm sure he was working out wherever he was. Obviously at Texas A&M, but it's different. It's different when you're in the construction environment with your own team and your players, you can work out as long as you want. You know, after that second or third day,

you're gonna be sore as hell, no matter what you do. It's sore, because they're people, you don't have people pulling and pushing on you the way it happens in that structured environment. So I'm hoping he does well, stays healthy, stays healthy despite the days he missed. And that's the key. And hope, I hope he goes out there and shows off.

Cause now all eyes on him on eyes on him because of the holdout, whatever, whatever, whatever was going on, all eyes on him and based on what type of production you're going to put up for what you were putting the fans through. That's how they see it. But let's do this. You got us waiting, whatever it may be, even though it was business, all eyes on you now. You just got to show up. Show up and show out. That's it. That's it. You're absolutely right. Um you get in

football shape playing football. Yeah. I don't care how much you run on your own. It don't matter. You need to play football to get in football shape. You need to put those pads on, put that helmet on. And like you say, Ocho, have people pushing, pulling, tugging on you. You work, you need to do that in a practice or a football type atmosphere.

Running, look, I understand that running sprints give you a nice foundation. Yeah, that's about it. But it ain't the same. No, at all. It's not the same. And like you and I think Oh Joe, he got a little bit more money. He had to give up something. They had to give up something. I think at the end of the day, that's that's probably how negotiation should work. I give a little, you give a little. We both feel like we got had. Hey, we good. Cause sometimes those two negotiations can make it awkward. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? I feel like I gave up too much. You feel like you gave up too much and now we got bad blood. It's just been the song. It's just been, it's at the end of the day. I know a game that you love to play as a kid, you just get to a point in life when you get so good at it.

People pay you for it. People pay for what you love to do. Right. Damn. And the old adage, never do something for free that somebody will pay you for. That's a good one. And Jamar's doing like,

hey, y'all gonna pay me for football, let me try to get as much as I can. And rightfully so. I mean, most services probably started out as free. It is somebody say, I'll pay you to do that. You will? Cause Ocho, what he would say, man, Hey, I love the game so much.

I play it for free. And I'm gonna coach told me one time, Ocho say, that's what I love about Shadow Shark. This guy, he would play the game for free. I said, yeah, but I'm gonna need them other 45 more folks to play for free too. Cause I ain't gonna be the only one to play for free. Just so, just so we clear. Yeah, I play for free. Cause I ain't gonna be the only one to play for free. Just so we clear.

Yeah, I'll play for free. But I ain't gonna be the only one that ain't get no check. If everybody ain't get the check, yeah, I'm here. But I'm happy for Youngfella. Like you said, I don't think he missed a couple of, no more than a couple of days of camp. Hopefully he's a, see, I couldn't learn like that. I'm a visual learner days of camp. Hopefully he's a, see I couldn't learn like that.

I'm a visual learner, Ocho. I need you to draw and I need to go through it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I need to go through it. Put my body like, okay, this is what it gonna be. Okay, this coverage, okay, you know, something for Sean.

This guy's a little faster than this guy. So he gonna clear it out a little faster than this guy so he gonna clear it out a little better I'm gonna be able to get I just need to be there I gotta see it I ain't a guy you just draw it up says okay go do yeah I bet that I need to do draw it up and now let me go out there and do it executed yeah I got to do it also coach when you draw Yeah. I got to do that. And then also, Coach, when you draw it up, I know how you drew it, but every time you draw something up, it's not going to look that way on the field because there's somebody in front of you trying to stop me.

Yeah, the man knows that you drew up. They didn't move. They stayed exactly where you put them at. They ain't nobody draw. Ain't nobody did nothing. Yeah. Oh man. When I got out there, guy tried to kill me. Grabbed my face mask, my shoulder, he's holding my pants. I was like, what the hell? Pulling, tugging on you? Yes. Yeah. Yes.

And so it is like, well, I was like, man, my clock had to go off. I think about the time John took the ball, he took three steps. You know, that is Bruce Smith. That's Reggie. That's DT. I mean, how much time you think,

how much time you think, I'm sorry I didn't go, well, you know, you got to get to depth. I say, yeah, if I'd have got the extra, if I'd have went an extra three yards, John would have got hit in the back of his head. Extra hard. So them extra two yards saved John an extra hard hit.

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Tua looks to rebuild a relationship with Tyreek Hill after the Ricks week 18 outburst. Yeah. Let's take a listen to what Tua had to say. You guys aren't the only people that heard that. You know, a lot of people that follow football, that follow the Miami Dolphins, that follow Tyreek, that are fans of his,

everyone has seen that. So, when you say something like that, you don't just come back from that with, hey, my bad, you gotta work that relationship up, you gotta build everything up again. And yeah, it's still a work in progress, not just for me, but for everybody. But like I said, he's working on himself,

he's working on the things that he says he wants to get better with and do better on. So that's the first step to me. And so I commend him for doing that. Not one lie told. Yeah, not at all. Can you refresh the people that are watching, the people that are listening, what he's referring to, though, because he said something but the people might need context if they don't remember what Tyreak said at the end of the season.

Well I can't give you verbatim but I think he said something that he might be looking to get out of here because he liked winning and you know he got to do what's in the best interest for him, things of that nature. He said a lot of stuff. They did. And he did. But I think also I love what Tua said. Obviously publicly Tua's gonna have his receivers back but also hold his receiver accountable. I think he should. Everything he said. Also for me as a football player, a former player,

understanding the frustrations that a receiver would have who'd had a down season for the first time, who's not used to having a lackluster season like that, the frustrations build up, the inconsistency, all right, I'm not used to this, so what's the first thing you do? You vent about not actually wanting to be in that situation anymore, and seeing that,

whatever method Tyra could try to do, and trying to maybe find a way to get out of Miami, and find somewhere else to go, maybe back to Kansas City, or wherever it may be, it didn't work out that way, so what I have to do and trying to maybe find a way to get out of Miami and find somewhere else to go, maybe back to Kansas City or wherever it may be. It didn't work out that way. So what I have to do now, I can't take what I said back. All I can do is work on myself, apologize to my teammates, apologize to my quarterback and my coaches. And there's one way to make them forget about everything is to do what you do best. Catching touchdowns, catching passes and working your ass off. And that's three things that he already does,

which is why he's one of the best at what he does now in the game. I think he's gonna be fine. Sometimes when you're angry, Ocho. And I get it, and I hate that. I really do. I hate when guys get angry and they don't speak to the media. Because when you score 50, there's never a time

when somebody dropped 50 in the NBA they didn't speak to the media. Because when you score 50, there's never a time when somebody dropped 50 in the NBA, they didn't speak to the media. There's never a time when somebody had 150, 200, two, three touchdowns, they didn't speak to the media. But the moment you get a little frustrated, you don't wanna speak to the media. But in certain situations, if it's a situation where you're so upset and the words that come out of your mouth

might do irreparable harm go ahead and talk to them say hey I can't do it I can't speak right now but what did you what did you what's it what's you're saying when emotions are high logic is logic is low and that's why I said you know what and I get up I don't I want you to That's why I said, you know what, and I get up, I don't, I want you to, good, bad or indifferent. Cause you make the same money. It ain't like, you know what, I had a bad game, Ocho. So Ocho had a bad game. Ocho only had four for 50 yards.

Well, Ocho, we gonna give you four for 50 yards money. Ocho had 10 for 260. Okay, now Ocho, we gonna give you 10 for 260 money. You make the same either way. But we are human Yeah, there was there were times man I spoke to the media after the game I'm see that Cuz I know we had some guys that didn't play like they were supposed to and sometimes I was one of those guys. Oh same

Same. I listen I can remember my games where I played bad on I'm talking about vividly Buffalo I can remember my games where I played bad. I'm talking about vividly. Yes. Buffalo. And I ain't got no problem telling the media. I gotta do better. Yeah. John's job is to throw it. My job is to catch it.

Yeah. Well, if he's throwing it, I ain't catching it. I ain't doing my job. So I'm letting him and the team down. Yeah. I like the fact that Tua acknowledged what he said, cause a lot of times, ah man, we know how our guys are, and so forth and so on, that's our brother.

He didn't do that. That lets me know that what he said, not only bothered him, but it bothered other people in the room, and they had a conversation with Ty. They've talked to Tyreek about this. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. They've talked to Tyreek about this, and I like. Absolutely. They've talked to Tyreek about this.

And I like that Ocho, cause you know, sometimes, uh, Ocho, they try to gloss it over. Man, you know, it ain't that big of a deal. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And there's only one person that can get away with saying that. And that was the quarterback. That's the only one. That's the only person because it all, all falls back on quarterback not being there. Okay. My numbers aren't what they used to be. And anything that Tyreek says at the end of the season, who they gonna point the finger at?

Quarterback. Yeah. And so, but Tyreek knows what he has to do. I looked at Tyreek body this year compared to what it was last year. He looks 10, 15 pounds lighter. I told you, I told you what it looked like at the goddamn workout.

Why that workout? I work out. Oh my God. He look, look, the thing is, Ocho, he's already so explosive. Even if he leaves a step, he's still faster than anybody else in the league. Hey, completely.

And it's crazy. And you know what, the fact he didn't lose a step because he just ran a goddamn 10-1 last month. What are we, what? And he's not even training to run track. How you, you not even track training and you ran a 10-1. Imagine if he was in track shape or had track technique or got track coaching.

That 10-1 dropped down to 9899. Yeah, he might, he definitely get get this he probably get the 10 easy. Come on man he's gonna be all right though he's gonna be all right. Yeah he's gonna be all right. But he just like look you gotta realize where he came from see they never had these problems in Kansas City so Tyreek ain't used to this. Tyreek used to, my homeboy be in there. And so he used to like knowing, okay, now granted, now his first couple of years in Miami, he's number one, he gonna get all the balls, blah, blah, blah. Now, in Kansas City, you know, he had to split that

with Kelsey, maybe Sammy Watkins, or maybe someone else. But he knew he's gonna get X and he knew Mahomes was going to be there. It's hard, no matter how great you are. Look, only DeAndre Hopkins can just go through quarterbacks and still put up Pro Bowl All-Pro numbers. You know who else did it? Goddamn Andre Johnson.

Yeah, yeah. He had a quarterback carousel as well and for some reason, production didn't even matter regardless of who got that on it. Yep. So, um I'm I'm happy, uh that he said Tyreek is working but like you said, it takes time. Hey, hey, see, Ocho, he could've lied. Oh yeah, we done moved past that and moved on and said nah, nah.

Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, nope. Listen, Tyreek gonna make everybody forget about his week one. Guarantee you, because you know, I know what Mike McDaniels gonna do. I know what he gonna call, they come out the gate, week one. They dialing up 10. But see, that's where you need leadership. Because look at the situation that we dealt

with in Baltimore in 2000. The offense went five weeks and we didn't score a touchdown. It could have split us at the seams. And the thing that really helped me, Ray, Woody, two guys on defense, one guy on offense, we were really close. We did everything together. On the road, we was in each other's room, laughing, talking, we went out. We always went out together.

We went to get something to eat. We did that together. And I just remember telling them them I said, you guys y'all y'all y'all are doing unbelievable. Y'all having a great season historically great season. I said, but the thing I loved about football is they don't take great units to the football. They take teams. Yes. So, I don't care. I don't care what y'all do if we don't start doing our part,

but when we start doing our part, don't you guys let that. We'll get what we have to get fixed. Y'all just stay the course. And me being able to relay that to Woody, to be able to relay that to Ron, excuse me, to Ray, and to let them know that, hey, and then you know, to Array, and to let them know that hey, and then you know to tell Brian, bro. I ain't tell you nothing you don't know,

but it ain't getting done. Yeah. Hey, you know what we gonna do? When I think about that 2000 team y'all had, that defense was so good, y'all did so good. Y'all didn't have to be as great as they did. All you had to do was all Y'all didn't have to be

as great as they did. All you had. No. All y'all. Well, that would have been unfair. That would have been unfair. All y'all had to do, just meet him halfway. Just meet him halfway. Give us, give us ten points. We'll take care of the

rest. Hey, if we got, if we gotta, if we gotta tend up the lead. Oh, it was over. Unless, Unless we fumbled and you got a scoop and score and you got a pick-six. With Marvin Lewis, we started playing and Marvin would say, Shay, give us 10. Yeah. I said, 10 what?

We ain't about to get, 10 what? Marvin said, I remember we playing, we started playing, Marvin say, hey, give us 10. We got to the playoffs. Marvin say, give us seven. I say, Marvin, do you realize what you saying? I said, Marvin, this team's in the playoffs. He said, you should give us seven

and give it to us early. We played the Raiders. And that, we had a great, so Marvin was the DC. Jack Del Rio was the linebacker's coach. Rex Ryan was the D-line coach. I think, who was our DB coach? I forget his name, but he ended up going to be DC somewhere. But we were loaded. We playing the Raiders in the championship game.

They said, give us seven, it's over. I remember. Raid, Shug say, Shane, y'all give us seven early at the half, it's over. I said, Raid, they like the number one scoring team in football. What you mean give us, say Shane, give us seven and a half. I said, well, I'm good for seven. Big play, Shane, big play, Shane, good for seven.

I got that. Hey, I got that touchdown. I came to the sideline. Like Smokey Mama told him, make it work. Yeah. This ain't enough, Smokey said, it ain't enough, it ain't enough. She say, make it enough.

Hey, was it running back Napoleon Kaufman back then or no? No, it was Charlie Garner. Okay, I forgot about Charlie. I forgot about Charlie. Charlie Garner. I don't think Nappy was there then. He was nice, he was nice too. Oh, he had speed.

Yeah, he was nice. Now you let him get outside now, he gonna cause some problems for you. Yeah, he had us about 201 year at the Broncos. But I think that's the biggest thing. I think that's where veteran presence comes in, especially guys that are, that's not really concerned about numbers or,

you trying to win. At a certain point in time, bro, what? Man, I don't care how much money you make, man. When you losing, it sucks. It was bad. Man, you bad, you hate, I like, damn. It was bad. And people in chat, you're not thinking about a check.

You're like, man, I'm out here in this heat. I'm out here in this cold. I'm out here, you know, my body's aching, I'm hurting, and we losing. Hey, hold on now. You got to think about this now. I was in Cincinnati 11 years, what, 10? You know how many winning scenes I had in Cincinnati?

How many? Maybe what, two, one? And I might be able to to check me on that. There's a reason I chose to have so much fun. There's a reason. How do I block out the losing part? Now I don't know. Make sure I'm doing everything.

You better man than me. Hey, make sure I'm doing everything I can. That's all I can do. I know that 2005 season, that was a winter season. We might've had two winter seasons, maybe. In your career or in Cincinnati? Cincinnati. Shit, Cincinnati is my career, what you mean?

You played in New England, you got a year out there. That don't count, man. That's on your resume. And guess what, if you go to the hall, they gonna put that on your plate. I ain't going to the hall, I put my own jacket on. That's okay, you go to the hall, they gonna put that on your plane. I ain't going to the hall. I put my own jacket on. That's okay.

But if you were to, they go put it. Everybody, I guarantee you, go to Wikipedia and see if they got New England in there. Go to, pull up, hey chat, pull up Ocho in Wikipedia and see if they mention anything about New England. They will. I bet they don't. I bet they do.

I don't even know how to get on Wikipedia. Don't worry about it. I'm finna get on there for you. I'm finna get on there for you. You might need to have him take that spouse thing off there, but that's neither here nor there right now. What does it say? I ain't off there, but that's neither here nor there right now What it say I say nothing but I'm saying oh He played football is Santa Monica

Cossar Orgasm, that's me. Oregon State. That's me August a beaver any play for Cincinnati Bengals and the New England Patriots during his tenure playing in the NFL Oh long mate. What about then you put I played in Montreal, too from Cincinnati Bengals and the New England Patriots during his tenure playing in the NFL. Hold on. What about, I played in Montreal too. Nope, they didn't put that up there. But I played in Mexico too. They didn't put that? Oh, they did.

They said Cincinnati Bengals from 2001 to 2010, the Patriots 2011, they got an asterisk by Miami, but. Majora Allen West in 2014, and Del Madre in 2017. See, see, you know what? I have the greatest career of any NFL player ever, because I played in the States, I played in Canada, and I played in Mexico. Who else could say that? Yeah, yeah.

What are we talking about? Different, different. He was a member of the Bingo's 40th anniversary and 50th anniversary teams. That's me. That's me. See? Hey, I was good.

Cause you know how good you gotta be to play in the States? you can play in the NFL, play in Canada. And Canada, listen, I told you about my experience in Canada, ain't no way in hell some of them fellas should be dying in Canada. I think people look at the pay or the difference and think, oh, Canada's sweet. Man, man, Canada's sweet. Shh. Man, man, please.

What was that? Cam Lake, didn't they have a, Miami had a guy that came out of Canada. Cameron Way. Cameron Way, okay. Yep. See, that's just, that's just one, there are a few examples of people that played in Canada. Warren Moon, Doug Flutie.

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