Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho REACT to Chargers-Raiders, Bucs beat Texans + Melissa Jefferson-Wooden joins

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Monday Night Football featuring Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers vs. Geno Smith and the Las Vegas Raiders, Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers taking down CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans & Unc & Ocho are joined by 100m World Champion Melissa Jefferson-Wooden. 07:50 - Chargers beat Raiders19:00 - Bucs beat Texans29:15 - Upset at World T&F in Tokyo31:25 - Melissa Jefferson-Wooden joins the show (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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platforms. That's Shay-Shay Media and my clothing company. 84 with 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. Melissa Jefferson Wooden joins us in a little bit. But Ocho, the game that just went off. The Chargers. Oh, you want to go with this from? Oh, before we get started, Ocho, look what came to me. What we got?

What we got, baby? Not one. Not two. Okay, okay. But we stack we stacking them up, ain't we? Yeah. But what's that? I thought you was Vegas.

I didn't know you was in Paris. Ain't a week. Now. Hey, well, we went in the war. But we went in the wars, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, but I'm confused. I mean, you got three, so I got, I got three, too?

Unfortunately, Ocho, until I get that bread, hey, hey, and you still got this one right here. Ooh, ooh, hey, um. And y'all got, y'all got my address in Miami, huh? Nah, we sent it to the other place. The place that you were staying before. That's the address that we got. I'm not there no more, what you're doing? Well, you better go over there and knock on the door and beg and say,

I can I get that. I ain't going to do none of that. Now, that's not going to happen. Now, what we need to do is we need the, we need the, I give you the right address and you can send me, send me two of them. Oh, Joe, we already sent it out. No. You didn't tell us no changing no address.

It's me. Well, that address been changed damn near yet, nah. But what that got, but did you, did you share that with us? I shared it with you. I shared it with you. I shared it with you was the first one I told. you were the first one I told you see

based on this man that threw me as a bulljive that's a whole lot of hard work over there you got you got sitting over there I need a I got to be able to show my kids

you know what I've accomplished tell them to watch the nightcap and they can see if they watch the nightcap I got to find some place where this to go you ain't even got no room No, I don't have no room. Go ahead and send that to your boy, man.

Hey, I'm sorry, club, Shayshay, you got to go a little closer back. Bear with it, chat. Hey, why are you taking my stuff out of the box? Hey, you heard me? Until you take my $5900 out your account, they're going to stay in the box. Hey, Unk, don't make me do something to you, man. What? Like, pay me my money?

Hey, go ahead and shit. Hey, go ahead and all of... In two years, chat. One, two, three. Oh, let's close. Okay, here is it right here. Right. So, in two years...

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. In two years. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Hey, well, if you got eight webbies in there, that mean four and belong to me, huh? Huh?

Yeah, you know what? I mean, Ocho, I don't really know. I wish I was something I could tell you, Ocho. But right now, presently, I'm not going to be able to tell you. Hey, hey, listen. I ain't going to even hold you. Hey, um, listen, I love you like a little. Chad, what y'all think I should do?

What y'all think I should do? The man owe me $59.00 for two years. He refuses to pay me my money, although he buying houses with swimming pools, he's spending $12,000 on jackets. Tell me, chat, chat, I'm going to let you guys decide. Whatever you decide, I'll let you guys decide. Whatever you guys decide, if you say, oh, send Ocho his stuff, I'm going to send it. If you guys say, nah, that may have been over you, 5900, he's playing in your face. He buying all these places, doing all this stuff, and he ain't gave you your money.

So whatever you guys decide, I'm going to let y'all do. I'm just what I'm going to do. Chat, y'all don't get unhurt now. All right, the charges beat the Vegas Raiders, 20 to 9. Justin Herbert was 19 of 27, 242 yards, two touchdowns, no turnovers, unless they gave that last fumble that they fumbled. But I don't think, oh, they give it. They did give it to him. They gave him two.

He lost one. But they did a great job. Gino Smith was Texas toast tonight. He was terrible. Gino was bad tonight. But they did a great job of pressure to Moccho. They didn't let him set his feet. And when he had time,

he overshot some guys. He missed some throws that I'm sure that he's going to look at film tomorrow and wish he had back. But that's the game of football that we play. Quentin Johnson gave three for 71 on a touchdown. Cheaton Allen was 5 or 61, four touchdown. down and Lam O'Conkey was doing what he normally does is move to change.

And so the charges look really good. Now, there was a big blow. It looked like a bicep injury to Killeo Mac. He left early. He had it in a sling, Ocho, but if you notice, his bicep was ramp. So that's what makes me think it's a bicep injury, but I'm not sure. I don't know if they reported, because obviously chat, you guys know I don't listen to the sound. So if somebody want to jump in the chat and said what it is, what they reported.

I don't know if they reported. they probably said he left the game and was not going to return. But it makes me think that it's a bicep injury because it wasn't a sling and he had his bicep rap. But Ocho, you're watching this game and you look at the charges, the way they're throwing the football and the way they can get up the opposing teams quarterback. What are you liking about what you're seeing about the charges this year? Obviously, offensively, they do what they do offensively.

Justin Herbert looked like Justin Herbert, especially picking up where he left off from week one, but the charge of defense, huh? The charge of defense was all over. place. Gino Smith time to be able to set in the pocket defensively. They play very well in the back end. They look really, really good as well. I'm excited.

I'm excited for the AFC West to see what the charges do. Not now early in the season. We only in week two. I want to see if they can do this in December when it really count. They can do this in January when it really counts where it matters most. All the moments that they have in right now doesn't hurt being really well. I'm glad to see the resurgence of Quentin, Johnson. I'm glad to see Young Bull finally playing well, playing with confidence, making plays.

He looks awesome. So being able to see them in person tonight was awesome. Gino Smith, again, having a run life, really not having the time in the pocket to be able to throw the ball. Week one, they look really good. They look phenomenal. He threw the ball all over the place. Tonight, not so well. Yeah, I mean, 24. Well, neither team really could run the football, Ocho. That's the only thing that I like, okay, at some point in time, charges, you're going to have to run the football to alleviate some pressure on Justin Herbert. You just can't just let them tee off. But because the Raiders really couldn't run the football, they just teed off. They were just

teeing off on, on, on, on, um, Gino, but Gino made some poor throws. I mean, that one he threw down the middle leg. Come on, Ocho, you see, you see, uh, what's three name? I can't forget. Durbin Jane, Durbin Jane. Yeah, Darwin Jane. You see him running. He running with him. Why would you throw that? why would you throw that he i mean he put he threw that was twice he threw one of the double coverage earlier and he got and he got picked but he didn't play well tonight i'm not break chad i'm not breaking any news to you guys you know you watch the game you know gino did not play well tonight he played really well as ocher said he uh played really well opening week on

the road in fonsborough against the patrons 362 yards but tonight oh he was some slow he was You know it's very difficult too. When you have a week one performance like that, it's hard to string them back to back to back together like that. Oh, I want it up there. It's really hard to string them back together like that back to back, especially when you play a great defense like the Chargers. That got, Henley?

He going to want to come back. Because he talked to us, look at he had 12, he had 10 tackles, seven solo, a sack, and two tackles for losses. Hey, Hen, if you want to dial in, you want to talk to right quick, you know, The line open for you any time, bro. Tremendous game tonight. He was all over the place, don't. He was.

He was hunting. Ashting Jind is finding out what it's like in the NFL. Oh, it's a different ball game. Oh, hey, listen, let me tell you something. Let me take something. All those runs, all those runs that's supposed to be between the A and the B gap and trying to bounce them out and think you're going to outrun people. Uh-uh.

That's not happening. You better hit that hole. No. And do everything you can. And hope you get to the second level. Take that two or three game or it's going to turn into a one or two loss because you bounce that. Listen, everybody is just as fast, if not faster, if not stronger. Think about it.

Nightcap effect, we had Henley on. Look what he did. We had Bud on. Look what he did. Melissa Jefferson, she was on. Look what she did. Now, I don't, hey, I'm just saying, that's just three. now if you want if you want something to be

come on hey we had a Ryan Cougloon look at the numbers I just say it Hey it's not a coincidence it's common sense No it ain't a coincidence

It's common sense That's all That's all Too many occurrences It's not a coincidence Come on that Y'all see what it is Y'all see exactly what it is

But like, like I said, I like, I like what I'm seeing from the charges. Justin Herbert, look, the one thing we know about Jim Harbaugh, you can say what you want to say about him. He can coach his ass off. And it gets progressively better. And then normally there's a little tapering off. You go back and look at what he did at Stanford. Bill, Bill, Bill, boom.

He goes to San Francisco. Bill, Bill, Bill, and then, you know, loses quarterback and things start to happen. You know, they fire him and they had a budding, the front office and Jim. whatever the case may be. He can coach. Every team that he's ever coached has gotten better once he's arrived. You go back and look at San Diego, you look at Stanford, you look at the 49ers, you look at Michigan.

They hadn't won a championship, I don't know, maybe since 48. Gerald Ford might have been, excuse me, President Ford might have been on the roster by the time. I mean, as great as we think of coach Jim Bechler, he didn't win a national championship. Oh, let me take that back. They won in 97, the 97 team with Brian. Greasy. They didn't win. So, but we think of Michigan, we think, but man, they get just loaded with those championships. No, it had been over 20 years since they had won a championship and, and Jim and, you know, people were calling for his head. Old khaki pants wasn't getting

it done, no joke. He started off a bottle and then he was just losing and losing, but he stayed afloat by kicking the Ohio State's ass. So, you know, you can buy yourself some time if you beat your rival, your biggest rival. It's kind of like Auburn and Alabama. You one beats the other, You'll buy you a little time. Absolutely. But Harbock and coach, and he has a quarterback that can make every throw on the field. But eventually they're going to have to run the football. I do not believe that you can just become reliant on the passing game.

That would be the one to knock. The one knock. Even if they won the game tonight, they have to be able to establish run at some point to make things easier and take the pressure off of Justin Herbert. So he doesn't have to football. Yes. And keep the defense. And whoever they're playing, you've got to be able to keep them honest.

No fumble, too. No fumble. Was that a Marion Hampton fumble the night? Yes. You got a hold on. And then they were on fourth down. I don't even know if they called that a fumblelocho on fourth down because it was going to, you know, you don't get us a change of possession anyway because it was fourth down.

And he tried to do like a jet suite and, you know, 12 took his eye off the ball and then the ball's on the ground, something like that. But if you look at them defensively, they had two, three, four, five, six. They had six tackle for losses, three sacks. They did a great job getting out the Gino. They did a great job of collapsing the pocket, corralling Austin Genti. The charges, I don't think I'm going out on limb. I think the charges are for real.

I think they're one of the three or four best teams in the AFC right now. It's going to be very, very interesting how this thing. I know it's early, Ocho. It's only two weeks into the first, the NFL season, but they look good. They look really, really good. And that quarterback, he's what they've advertised. And I understand that he's going to need to do it in the, playoffs in the big moments because we saw him in last year against the uh the Texans and he

was horrible and we saw him have a 24 27 nothing lead against Jacksonville and they got walked so he has those two horrible else on his resume but he's going to be in some big games with that coach with that team they're going to be in some big games and it's going to be up to him to to to carry his part and I think he's more than capable of doing that but I really love what I'm seeing from this defense it's going to be interesting to see How this thing with Cleo Mac? You know, some people say, do we have an idea of what they say Cleo Matt? I thought it was something wrong with his elbow.

Elbow, dislocated elbow? When I was in the stadium, obviously, it goes up on the Jumbotron, players out, and then it tells you a description on what it was. They say it elbow, so I'm not sure. Okay. Yeah, yeah, sublaceted dislocated. Dislocated elbow? I know the feeling.

I, yeah, I've dislocated my elbow. I dislocated my right elbow. So it hurt like a mocha. How long is that out? I missed five weeks. Well, no, let me take that back. I missed, I heard it in the beginning of the second quarter. So I missed that game in four weeks, a month.

Okay. Played with a brace for the rest of the year. Hmm. Ah, ah, yeah. That's how mine look. Yep. I, you know, tried to brace myself on the ground. And somebody came from behind?

No, the ground. And, you know, I got it pinned. Yeah, I couldn't get it out. It hurt. Boy, it hurt like a mofo. But I think there'll be, I think, you know, the charges will be okay. But it's not something that's season ending. He'll be back.

He'll have to play with a brace. You know, JJ Y played with the brace his whole career. He dislocated, yeah, he dislocated his and played rid of brace on for the rest of his career. I couldn't, I mean, it's hard to catch when you a, when you catch the ball, Ochoo, it's kind of hard to play with that thing. I mean, I had to play because I played with it for the rest of the year, and they didn't want anything to happen. But I know once that season was over and I got into an offseason, I wouldn't come in back with that thing on. I know a lot of defensive linemen and some offensive linemen once they do it because they're doing a lot of this. You can only bend your arms so much. Remember gronk played with one too?

Yeah, yeah. Yep. So it's a congratulations charges. You moved to two and oh and you sit alone on the top, the AFC West. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL cover zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going. to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? It looks like something that should not be sold. Oh my. So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the draw. Yeah,

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The earlier game, the Bucks beat the Texans 2019 for the second straight week. Baker Mayfield engineered a fourth quarter drive to win the game, trailing by five points with barely more than two minutes left to play. Baker led a buck's on 11, play 80-yard drive. Last week, Baker engineered a late road win with a touchdown pass to a mecca, Bucca, to beat the Falcons. Ocho, Tampa. Hey, Tampa looking good, huh?

Tampa, Tampa looking real good. They look very good. Listen, you know who else we had on the show? Oh, Labonte David. And look what happened. He dropped that interception, though. He's though he's supposed to get to the house. I mean, C.J. hit him dead in his hand.

He played. He's on defense for a reason. It's no way from being able to catch. But do you know what I like about the books, Ocho? They can run the ball. Hey, that guy. Right and Bucky Irving. Nice, boy.

Yeah, I see. I see, I see Bucky. he broke off to the right side and I see him hit that Peter Warwick dead leg on somebody. I'm like, wait a minute. Okay. Soapsey like that. Baker 25 or 38,

215, 2-15, two touchdowns. They pressured him for, but on fourth down, no, so they had him dead to right, and he got up out of there, picked up a big first down. You can't run by him. To a lower, I think that's the,

uh, uh, uh, to a low low. Toto, he's from the University of Alabama, the linebacker. He runs by him. Got him dead right. They got the perfect play call. They got the perfect blitz call. They crashed him, and he ran by him.

Baker jumps out to win. It's so funny. And when you think about quarterbacks that are dual threats, you don't really view Baker as a Josh Allen or view him as a Lamar Jackson, but he can hurt you. If you're not disciplined, if you don't come into control,

if you don't come to balance, When you have him dead to write, like you said, and you just aggressively just try to make the tackle, you'll do exactly that. Come right out of the back though. He had 33 yards rushing. Bucky Irving has 17 for 71. Richard White has 10 for 65.

Baker had three for 33. 30 rush attempts, 169 yards. 25 and 38, 215. Two touchdowns. He did get sacked four times. But, uh, They took care of the ball and they got pressure on C.J. Stroud. CJ's got to make some of those throws that he, that he missed, Ocho.

You got to make some of those. You got to make some of those. It is what it is. You got to make them. You got to get the Ocho. You can't kick your field goal. That'll get you beat every time, huh? At some point, you got to score touchdowns.

You got to score touchdown. You got to you. You do. And would it, Mike. Mike Evans finished with. Mike Evans had five catcher, 56 yards on 11 targets.

Look, you know, had Stingley chasing, had him, Stingley follow him around the whole day. That was nice. Stingley did a really good job. Stingley did a really good job tonight, obviously showing why he's one of the top corners in the NFL, and he traveled with Mike Evans,

the entirety of the game. I had, I had to leave in a, I think maybe maybe the end of the third just to get over to the. race the game so I didn't have to fight no traffic so I missed it back into the game to get to the rate no I mean look that's what that's what that's what you pay stinging the big bucks that he's one of the better corners and you says okay look we're going to play we're going to take you take him and then we'll play coverage everywhere else it gives you an opportunity to free up some things that's what

you when you have one of those guys it allows you to be really exotic defensively because you feel you got a guy that can shut down their best receiver you do that much more defensively when you have a like that. You can focus a defense coordinator can focus elsewhere and do other things and expand the playbook defense because, you know what, I ain't got to worry about this side. So I could do other things with everybody else to confuse the quarterbacks. Yeah.

And all the great ones have been able to do that when, you know, Rod Wilson, when that is a pick, the Steelers and Prime and Ania's and Darrell Green and Charles Woodson, Revers. When you got those top guys, you can get really exotic defensively. because you know they're going to be able to more time than not. Look, those great receivers, they get paid too. Now they're going to win some, but more times than not, you feel your guy's going to be able to hold his own.

And so we now, we can take somebody, you know, we can double, you know, take somebody else away. We can bring an extra guy because we feel we got a guy that can hold up where you really want to go with the football. But I thought Tampa looked good. Look, we think it's, you know, Tampa is the class of the NFC South with a little, with a little, maybe a little scare from Atlanta. but we don't think the Saints

and Carolina is going to put up much resistance. So we're looking at it as a two-horse race between the Falcons and Tampa Bay. I don't think we're going to, you know, there's a whole lot of like, nah, man, though. Hey, it's only two weeks into the season. I noticed, I heard nobody, Carolina, say, oh, it's only

two weeks in the season. I ain't heard nobody from New Orleans. It's only two weeks in the season. You know, you know what it is. It is what it is. But Baker, Baker has been playing, look, Baker has a home. He has people that believe in him.

He has an organization that wants him. They let him lead in the way he knows how to lead. They let him be him. The problem sometimes with organizations, though, Joe, well, this is the way Tom did it. He's not Tom. Well, this is the way such and such did it. Well, he's not that. You have to let a person be who he is.

That's the one thing I can honestly say about the Ravens. You have your own identity. Just play like a Raven. Whatever you do. You want to be quiet, be quiet. You want to be boisterous, be boisterous. You want to have, you want to joke and tell. Be whoever.

They don't try to make you confined to anything. All they ask you is to play hard. That's it. And that's it. And I think the thing is, look, he was not going to the Rams. What did you call him? He won a Super Bowl.

They were not going to place Matthew Stafford with Baker Mayfield. So let's just say that the Cleveland and the Carolina situation didn't work out. He got hurt, he tried to play through it. It didn't work out. You know, you hear stories. They wanted a grown-up in the room. Okay, whatever the case may be. Carolina, ain't nobody went in with Carolina until you get more talent around him.

And so he went somewhere. They had talent. They had Mike Emmons. They got Chris Godwin. They did a great job, a light. Jason Light has done a great job of drafting. Bucky Irvin, did a great job of White. He did a great job of drafting.

some of those guys. And so now you see the fruits of it is like, okay, they still got a good team. There was a little drop off. Obviously, you don't have the Super Bowl expectations that they do, but from the outside, you don't have the same expectations that you have with Tom Brady. Tom Brady automatically come with Super Bowl expectations. That, he's Tom Brady. But Tampa, hey, Tampa going to beat a tap. A, Tampa going to have something to say about it now. Because defensively, they can get out for you. They can get after they do a great job of Todd Bowles, do a great job of dialing up different schemes. He can pressure you when it needs to.

Vita Vail do a great job of stopping the run, but they can pressure your quarterback. So it's going to be very interesting to see how this thing shapes up. Let's see when we get by the week eight, week 10, oh, we'll go start seeing some things like, okay, because I think Green Bay is going to be a major player here. I think Green Bay is going to be a major player when it's all said done. I don't think the Eagles, look, the Eagles got to get their passing game going.

It's going to happen, no choice. It's taking some time. The funny thing about it is it's taking some time, but they haven't played an offense just yet. That's a juggernaut. They can put them under the gun. They can put them under the gun and force them into doing something else outside of what they already do.

Yeah, I agree with you. Somebody's going to have to put some points on the board and they don't have no choice but to throw it. Now you've got to find a way to try to get the ball to AJ. Excuse me, get the ball to AJ. You're going to have to find a way to get the ball to Devonte. You're going to have to find a way to get the ball to Dodson. And right now, nobody's made them do that.

They throw the ball on their terms. And then they get it in short, you know, second and short, the third and short or fourth and short and then you get to the tush push but if you're going to let them jump the count because the guards are moving people are moving before the city you saw the motion to that yeah yeah i mean i've seen it in the real time and it's the same thing with the offensive tacklers you remember there was a push they hey we want you to cause the count because guys were jumping i mean how many times did they call the uh kansas city right tackle juan how many times did they call him bro he was jumping the damn damn that he was jumping the damn

every time they crack down on it they're going to have to crack down because if you let the guards move and can root people out before the center snaps the ball well you've created an even bigger advantage it used to be you couldn't aid the runner you couldn't push him but they say now you can and they're going to jump the snap count and you're going to let them aid the runner I don't know how you stop it's so funny I'm not sure if the rescue you even see it in real in real time because the timing of it when you slow it down obviously yes we can see it at home when you when you play it back in slow motion but in real time i don't think the rest can tell oh cho we had an upset at the uh world championship tracking field in tokyo jamaican oblique

seville clocked the track he ran a personal best of 977 in the hundred meter finals at the world athletic championship in tokyo chene thompson took silver 982 no allows got bronze at 989, Seville finished dead last in the Olympics at the 100 meters last year. Yeah, Ocho is the pressure for law, not allows to stay on top. Is it getting to it? I want to think it's getting to them, but obviously, you know, it's one race. It's one race. So at that moment, it's all about those moments.

How well do you execute your game plan and what you need to do in that moment where it matters most? And yeah, he hadn't had a whole lot of races, oh, Joe. He's been nicked. I think he's probably only had. He's had less than five races and 100 meters. I think he's had even fewer in the 200. Now, he surprised a lot of people by winning the gold in, at the, where was the Paris?

In the 100 meters, he's a 200 meter specialist. So I'm going to give him a little grace. Seville and Kishane, they rained really well. But I think Noah, he got to get some more races on this belt. Now, I think he'll be better served in the 200 because that's his baby. That's his baby. And so we'll see because, you know, he's running out. He's got the world leading time in the 200 at 1963.

Kungu, Kenny, was right behind him in 1967. And then you got Tobogo, the Botswana. I think he ran like 1976, you know, a couple of months ago. So I'm going to give him some grace. That's not to take anything away from Seville and Cachain Thompson. Hey, Seville, but Seville has been running well all year. So has, so has, uh, uh, Shane. Both of those that guys have been running well.

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And she did. At the World Track and Field Championships in Tokyo, just a few days ago, she ran 1061, which is the fourth fastest time. never run by a woman. We got a flojo who ran 1049 at the USA's in Indy. And in 2021, I don't know what was in the water because you got Elaine Thompson Herron run 1054 in Eugene and then you had Shelly Ann Frazier Price, the pocket rocket, run 1060 in Luzon.

And here she is. We had a conversation, MJ. I say, I think if you, with these ladies in, with the right wing, I say, I believe you can go 10, I believe you can go. go sub 106. You had a negative head win. I believe that you get a plus, you get a plus one. You get a plus one, five.

You go in 10, you go in sub 10 six. Do you believe that? Congratulations. Tell us how you, before we get into that, how you feeling? I'm feeling good. Thank you, I told you I was coming back. You told you, hey, you say, when you win that gold medal,

that ass and when you win the gold medal, make sure you come back and tell us about it. Oh, yeah. And your Wi-Fi is perfect. in Tokyo, it's so efficient over here. Everything is great. The Wi-Fi's good. I know it's good because I brought my game,

and I can play Cardo. So you're going to, so obviously, is your coach over there with you? So tell me your strategies. So obviously, it's survive and advanced. You're trying to be as efficient as you're possible. I'm not trying to expend any more than I have to to advance and get through the rounds.

And so that's what I'm trying to do. And once I get to the finals, I'm going to drop the hammer. Is that kind of your strategy, survive in advance, doing as little as possible? Yep. That's the name of the game when it comes to these championships and the rounds is to just conserve as much energy as possible. And then when you get to that last round,

it's just about who can put together the perfect race at the perfect time. And I just kind of look at it as I'm going to just lay it all out. Because, I mean, I've been working for this very moment. So there's no need to be trying to hold anything back, just let it rip. do you believe if you get a positive tail win you could have gone 10 sub 106 absolutely i thought i was going to run 105 if i'm being honest i knew it really hold oh hello 1058 1055 or or lower than that if i'm being completely honest i thought that i had a chance to run anywhere between 1052

and 1055 with the right tail well that well now you're talking about the right tail where you're probably going to need probably about a 1.5 and a 1.5 will probably got you what you wanted probably at 1055 maybe a

little lower but I felt that with the women in this in this race you look at Julian and Alfred the St. Lucian you look at Tia Clayton so you had the women to Loo is always dangerous from the ivory coast she's dangerous. Dina Asher Smith, she's dangerous.

Your training partner, you carry, she's run 1065. There's not a whole lot of women that's run sub 107. She's won. So you had the women in the race. You had the track. You just needed a little bit more favorable conditions. And I believe you go sub 106. Yep, for sure.

And I say that too. And then even looking back at the race, like, obviously it was one of the best races of my life. It was the fastest I've ever ran. But I look at the race and I say, still see areas where I could have improved on. Like, I probably could have been a tad bit more explosive coming out the blocks or, you know, just running through, well, I ran through my transition very well.

I feel like the weakest part of my race the other night was probably the start. And that's just because I like to be able to create the separation. Like my coach drills into my head, like, you know, when we get in certain races, obviously the game plan changes. But for races like these and this moments, you're the big. biggest advantage that I can have for myself is to put it away in the first 30 meters. I feel like going back at it, like if I could do it all over again, I would probably be that much more aggressive at the start.

And then you take, you take my start, make it a little bit more aggressive with how the rest of the race went for me, then I probably wouldn't have needed a win. I probably wouldn't have needed a tail win to rent a money. Matter of fact, I don't know, boy, that finish, hey, Tia Clayton pulled up. She's like, where you, MJ said, where are you going? Let me get up out of hell. Where you going? You ain't been to get this.

That's me. Hey, MJ, when it comes, when it comes, the race and always having a game plan when you're going against women that are, that are great at those that you win against today or, well, what time? It's 1.30. It's 1.30 out there, huh? It's, yeah, it's like 2.30. It's like 2.30 in afternoon here on Wednesday. No, Tuesday. You always have a game plan going to a race like that.

What part of the race is your strength would you say? I would like to say my strength in my race is my start. Start, yes. But sometimes I have a tendency. Like I think I've been so focused on trying to make the other part of my races better. It's almost kind of like I find comfort in knowing not being complacent or pride for or anything like that. but like my start is kind of like the part of the race where I don't necessarily have to worry about.

It just, with my start, it just, it has more so to do with how aggressive I am, attacking the front side angle and things like that. But I really try my hardest to focus on the other parts of the race. So like the transition, acceleration, to keep it up with my frequency. Like I've always had the frequency, but in the past,

I just wasn't strong enough to be able to meet or let it get the, let it get the best of me, if that makes sense. So, like, my legs could be moving this fast, but then if my arms ain't doing that, like, if I can't keep up with the amount of turnover and frequency that I have, then that's when things start to go wrong in the race. So I feel like this year, just in that race alone, like, I feel like, I feel like my acceleration and my transition was probably, like, the best I've ever had. Yeah.

When you look at a race and training, I'm sure your coach is drilling your head. There's two ways to increase speed. stride length and stride frequency. How far are you out and how quickly do you pick them up and put them down? You look at you, same boat. He's the perfect sprinter. You talk about a guy that had a stride length and he had the stride frequency and he's taking him probably 40 steps to run 100 meters.

So when you said, I'm a starter. But for some reason, was it in the back of your mind? Did you know, did you see that a Tobogo had false started? Is that in the back of your mind like, look, I am not going to blow this. I still believe, even with these women in this race, you got Toulou and you got Alfred and you got Clayton and you got Shariqa, and you got Shari. They're in this race, but in the condition that I'm in right now,

they can't beat me. The only way, the only person that can beat Melissa Jefferson Wooden is if I false start. If I don't fall start, they can't see me. They can't get nothing to tailpipes today. And it's true because I think it's crazy because I did the same thing at U.S. trials, like, I feel like this year, my best start was probably when I ran at Prefontein and Eugene, so like maybe about a couple weeks out before U.S. trials, but even like

going through the rounds at U.S. trials, I was very, I was very, like, I played it safe with all of my starts through the rounds. But it was just, I think, I think, like, I agree with you. I think that I know what I have in a tank. I don't want to put myself in a predicament to mess that up. So I'd rather play it safe than to, you know, have that one time where I think like, oh, no, this is the one and then it'd be, it's a little bit too, too much. So, yeah. Is it a situation, MJ, that maybe you get a Diamond League meet where you don't have to run the rounds?

It's one time. It's one crack. You know, I go over there a couple of days earlier. I get acclimated. I don't have to get off a plane and I'm running in three hours, something like, like that where I go over there and I get acclimated for a couple of days and I only got one race. Is it a situation like that where you feel you can put something together because we're asking you would do an awful lot. And I understand this three, you know, to put rounds together and then run fast at the end.

Because even though you're trying to be as efficient as possible, you're still moving at a pretty good rate. You're still burning gas, so to speak. And so do you think a 10-5, it was possible? but what do you think about if you just get that one race so you know what this is it yeah i think i think without a i think without a doubt it would have happened because then it would have just been like one and done like this is it you only get empty the tank yep empty the tank that's literally it when you when you think about it no american woman and we've had some fast only one american woman is ever one faster than you're 1061 carmeletta good friend hey she run 1064 we got she carry it 10604 we got she carry it

1065. We got Marion Jones at 1065. So you're in a very elite company. I believe in the next year of year, maybe two, you're going to join, join, you know, Elaine and Flojo. That 10-4-10-5 is group. Have you thought about it? When you wrote your goals down coming into this year, was 10-5 on that paper? So 10-5, this year writing down my goals, 10-5 wasn't on the paper. 106 definitely was, though. Okay. I had, I wrote down 1068, and then when I ran 1065 at trials, it was kind of just like, oh, well, excuse you, what you're talking about, actually, to my own self. So, but then it's just like a testament to the work that I put in, and me knowing that, like, you know, I'm a very firm believer in my faith, and I know that the journey that I'm on,

the journey that I'm walking, like God, it's, I'm right. where I'm supposed to be, where I'm supposed to be. And so I can't put a limit on what I think that I can accomplish. If I say that I believe in him wholeheartedly to the fullest extent in that he's literally guided myself, then there's no possible way that I could put, you know, a limit on what I do. So, and the same thing goes for the 200. Like, I ran 20, I had written down 219.

That was my end goal for the 200 for me this year. And I ran 2199 in a rain. and 68 degree weather. So I'm like, okay, Melissa, like, what are you actually talking about? Like, what do you actually think you know? Right. So those are not favorable conditions, cold and rain. The last thing, a sprinter wants to see.

Now, a distance runner, he okay with the cool. Yeah, he's like, let's have a day. He wants it. They want it to be cool. But as a sprinter, the way you're bound tight, you want it nice and, you know, 75, I do 705. Yeah. Give me a little nice little tailwind, but you don't want win.

but you don't want windy, you don't want rain, you slip it and all that other stuff. So now, and I'm looking at this race, and I'm looking at the women that's in this race yourself and Julian Afford has run 1070, you know, Sharika Jackson run 1065, Shelly Ann has run 1060. Toulou had to run 1070, I think 1075. She's run a monster time.

So you got everything that you could possibly hope for. You're like, you know what? You're looking around, you're like, yeah. You're like, yeah, he's like, yeah. I mean, this is a barbecue chicken, um, upstale. Yeah, I mean, well, you feeling good. So how did you feel going into, how did you feel coming into the championship? Because you had run, you were the favorite.

You had run all the times. And I kept like, well, damn, you put, you had, you know what? What I knew, Melissa, when you put back to back 10-6s, I said, there ain't about a whole lot, there ain't been a whole lot of women that can back up 10-6 with another 10-6. When you back that up, I said, if she don't fall start, ain't nobody beat, her. Is that when you knew you was ready to run fast? Really fast. I think I knew after I ran Philly's Grand Slam that this was going to be like that. I feel like that's when it started before them, but it was really like, okay, no, I feel like it was, I put the stamp on it. Like,

no, this is your year to become a world champion. It was after that meet. And then going into trial or going into prefontaine you know it was the rematch of the Olympic podium um very much so it almost looked pretty identical to the um the finals that we had last year in Paris so it was kind of like all right they beat you that time don't let them beat you again and going into the race a couple of days ago I remember we were in the call room and then we were they were about to walk us out for the final and I sat there and I just said told myself, and I was like, Melissa, tonight is your night, but it's not going to be given to you. You're going to have to take it. Like, don't just think that it's just going

to come to you. And then I looked around in all the women that I was getting ready to race against, they had all beaten me before. And I said, well, they won't get me twice. And I was the last thing I told her, so before I got to the line, I was the last thing I said before I got to the line. And then after the gun went off, it was just like, well, here we go. I don't, I can honestly say, and I follow track and field, and everybody knows. I'm a big track and field fan. I don't know if I've ever seen anybody finish as strong as you did. I mean, because when Tiel Clayton challenged you,

it's almost like race horses. Because a lot of times talking to Bob Bafford and some famous trainers, they say they'll tell their jockey, let the horse pull up next to him. That horse knows he's in a competition against this other horse. He just needs to somebody pulls up to his bumper. And he knows he's there. Now he gets another gear. Melissa, when Tiel Clayton pulled up,

I was like, okay. Oh, I said, oh, ooh. And then you're like, what, where are you, do you at, where are you going? I ain't, I ain't even hit this turbo. I ain't dropped this nitrous on you yet. Boo, boo. Boo. I said, well, damn.

Did you, did you know, did you, have you seen, have you rewatched the race? Did you see that you got another gear? Did you see that for your own self? I did. So, crazy enough, I did see it. When I heard the gun go off, I remember me getting out and I was just like, okay, you got a clear the pack. You got to clear the pack. And then I got to the middle of the race and then it kind of went blank for a second. And then the closer we got to the line, I was just like,

don't do that thing you do where you like roll your shoulders, get all crazy. I just went through the line. And then after I ran through the line, it was kind of like, oh, I think I won, but I need to know, I need to see with my own eyes that I actually won. So I didn't really feel myself hit that other guilt. It was just about really like just trying to, trying to stay clear of everybody else. Are you nervous before races? I think about football games and right before kickoff, the music is playing. And before they kick the ball off, I got butterflies in my stomach. My stomach is tight. I'm nervous until I actually have contact or I catch a touch a ball. Like it's almost, I don't want to use the word scared, but nervous. Before a race like

that, before you go in the blocks, are your nerves okay? How do you calm yourself down? the biggest thing I do is just listen to music and I kind of get a sense of that too like leading of so I was here about maybe a week before we started actually competing because we had relay camp and everything so I think that was probably the longest week of my life because it was just like okay Melissa you know you're ready to run there's no need to be anxious like just let the days go by and then the time difference here was crazy so the first couple of days it was like no matter how late I tried to go to sleep. I was still waking up at 4 or 5 a.m.

And then it was like, I finally got to the point to where I was waking up at 6. So I'm like, okay, that's a little bit of progress. But then it was just still like trying to get to the line. So I think if anything, like I don't be really, really nervous. I just be, I just have like a lot of, I'd be anxious in a sense. But I'm also like you too. Like I'll, the minute I get to the warm up area and I start warming up, I'm like, okay, let's do this. Like I'm ready now.

Yeah. You're in your, you're in your element. Mm-hmm. Yes, exactly. In my element. We're safe. I'm looking at this relay. Now, I don't know who's going to be on the relay.

I'm sure you and Shakari, because you guys made the finals. Mm-hmm. You're the fastest woman in the world. I don't know if we've seen a situation where the fastest woman in the world run lead off because you're such an outstanding starter. And so I don't know what you want to share because the relays are going to probably come after the 200, so you'll probably have some other women that's going to, you know, qualify. Have you guys decided on a race order?

Yeah, so it's pretty, I would say it's pretty much set in stone. I think what's going to end up happening is that, this is just as of today, obviously. I know that I will be leading it off and then my train, basically I'll be on through, it'll be my training partners on the, um, yep. So me to TT to Kayla White to Shikari is the last I've heard of. Last I've heard of. Anything. You're not in trouble yet.

We're about to get to go. This is like unofficial. Okay. So if something changes, just say I'd, I, I, okay, that's what I'm saying. Disclayor. So. Think about that, Ocho. We got the fastest woman in the world running lead off.

Hey, the stagher already caught. I don't know who you all. I don't know who. Hey, we're probably going to get lane five. but six, seven, and eight, nine, y'all these status chairs. Y'all buy what just eight. I'm going to get that.

I'm switching to that order because you're not going to make me look bad and how this stagger walk down on me. Because what's the head is caught, what's behind, stage behind? That's what coach used to tell her, son, what is the head is caught? What's behind stayed behind? Because you already know she's going to eat up that stagger because ain't nobody else got their best runners on the first leg. Most people put their horses, they put them at the second

or they put them at the third. Occasionally they'll sprinkle the ankle leg, but you could be so far behind it doesn't matter unless you're you saying. But it ain't nobody got no you saying. We got you saying, and she's running first leg for America. Y'all me. Hey, hey, you didn't hit him.

Hey, hit him with that piece out. Hey, just get the baton around the track. That's all you got to do. We got the fastest four women. Let me take that back. We got the fastest six women. you take anybody six women that's currently going to be in this relay we got the fastest six get the sticks around the track that's all we got to do yep that's all we got to do we got this

we got this because we got it to a great start we won the gold and the women's uh discus we won the uh uh crowzer won the shot his first his first his first meet all year he's all year three-time Olympic gold, three-time world champion, only the second man to win three consecutive world championship. Oh, we'd be doing, hey, what the hell? We don't know when an other goal or something, didn't we? Oh, we're going to win the gold. Hey, we're going to get this goal into a hundred-meter hurdles, too.

Cordell-Tench. I'm going on a record. Cordell is going to get the goal. Oh, really? I'm going with Cordell. Yeah. You go with Cordell? Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, for sure. he's been running great he's really been he's the only one that's gone under 13 every a lot of guys 13 flat 1301 13 05 13 10 hey he can cover some ground so I'm going with cordel go with cordel you know I'm saying cordial but I mean so have so when you win the goal and you go back to your room could you rest or were you just so excited like you're just looking at that like that goal like damn so what's crazy is after after we do media and then um the other things i waited we got back to hotel room and then i actually had a chance to like meet up with my family and everything so um my

parents and i have aunts uncles and cousins out here too so i had a pretty good crowd of people to come all the way over here to support me wow that's awesome so i spent some time with them and that was good and then by the time i think i got to bed maybe around 3 a.m but i was actually proud of myself. I slept for six hours and I feel like that's a win. Really? Yeah, because last year after Paris, I slept for all of like three and then woke up the next morning was on my phone just checking everything.

So who's DM'd you and said congratulations to have? Is there any like celebs or other athletes or entertainers that's congratulated you? Okay, so I have I have one. I have to make sure I say his last name right. But his name is

Daniel I believe it's Daniel. Oh, cool you. Daniel LaBelle. Daniel LaBelle. So he, um, who is he? He's really big on social media.

He posts like different videos and it'd be like a little funny stuff. He'd be like, um, I believe one time he raced against speed. Okay. But yeah, I just like his videos. It's like, uh, he has like 8.1.8.1 million followers. And I saw he, he, he messaged me. He was like, congratulations. Congratulations. And I was like, like, oh my God. Thank you.

We got to get your followers up too. We got to get you up into the three and four million. Yeah. Hey, Chad, y'all do it as a favor. Go follow. Give them your tag. Give them your handle. How do they find you on Twitter? Okay. So on Twitter, my name is at Melissa, M-E-L-S-S-A-J-A-J-A-N-A-E-21. Okay. And then on Instagram. Oh, yeah, on IG, it's at underscore underscore Melissa J 19th.

Wow. Were you always fast Melissa? I mean, growing up in South Carolina, could you, I mean, I don't know if you have siblings, but were you the, were you the fastest girl in the neighborhood? Were you the fastest could you outrun the boys? Some of them I could. It was definitely like that. But I was like always fast on like the level that I was.

So I went to a smaller school, my high school, I'm from the country, so my high school was like, we went back and forth between 1A and 2A. And in South Carolina, you know, that's like real small. My graduating class was probably like, my husband would laugh heavy, but it's probably like 80 kids. Yeah, well, I'm happy with 60. Okay, so yeah.

So about 80 kids in my graduating class and then coastal Carolina, you know, obviously is a smaller D1 school. Does she have to clears? Yep, shons up. And then, so that was like a small. smaller D1 school too. So it's pretty much like I've lived the underdog life of just, you know, being fast at the level that I am and being in that area. Then it wasn't until like 2022 where everything like one knee just literally changed everything. That's because that's what I was, that's what I

wanted to ask you because you said I was fast for for where I was. It wasn't like when you go look at Shakara, she's at a big at a, where they got 3,000 kids and she runs what she runs and she goes to in a freshman year she wins the NCAAs or you see Gabby Thomas how she burst on the scene or you see Sydney McLaughlin that wasn't the case for you when did you realize you could be a pro or was that what that was that always your goal to be a professional track and field runner I didn't I didn't think that I could be a crazy enough I knew that one day I would go to the Olympics I didn't know when but I just knew that I could because of a coach that I had in high school my freshman year

school. I think it was my, that was my second year doing high school track. And then when I got to college and I had the coach there, that's when I was like, you know, I think I want to do, this is what I want to do for a living. And I was, I got to college the fall of 2019. So that's when it really just was like, okay, I know this is what I want to do. I don't know how I'm going to get there, but I'm going to just trust the people around me to help me get me to where I'm supposed to be. So, and that's kind of how I went about it. Yeah, but I'm looking, you know, when you're true to do something and it's just you because track and feel is a really lonely is it is you versus you is you and your thoughts is you and your training is you and your nutrition so everything is it's

dependent on you and ain't a whole lot of money in track and feel i mean you can count it probably on like one hand maybe a usane that made a bunch of money or simone bowles or michael felds uh Michael Johnson, Carl Lewis, it's not, you know, flush with money. Right. Especially for the women. And so why, why, I mean, obviously you go to college, you're like, okay, I'm going to get a degree. But why track and field? You just had something deep down inside of you say, you know what?

I can make a living doing this. Yeah. And then I say it all the time. Like, I just, like, this is what I was, this is what I'm here to do. Like, I'm here to run. I'm here. Yes. This is my gift that I'm supposed to be sharing with the world.

And so the minute I got an understanding of that and realized, like, obviously the higher I go in the sport, the more sacrifice we're going to have to make, the more I'm going to be disciplined. And like you say, like, obviously there's nowhere near as much money in our sport than there is in like football or basketball. But it's also just the resources that you do have, the money that you do have, being smart with that and investing in yourself in order to make sure that you're becoming. the best athlete that you could possibly be. Like, I feel, and I feel like it was so easy for me because I grew up always not having the resources that everybody else had, never needed for anything. I've always, I've always had what I needed,

but when it came to, like, you know, sports or the schools that I went to and things like that, we never had the same resources as the bigger school. So it was just like, okay, Melissa, control the things that are in your control, and then the things that are out of your control, leave that to whoever it's supposed to be to. and everything else will work itself out.

Listen, I'm looking at you. You're a thin young lady. So obviously you had to get stronger. You had to get, and I know women don't want to hear this, but you know exactly what I'm talking about. You had to get bigger. You had to get stronger. You were not strong enough to carry that.

You needed to be able to propel yourself down the track. So women don't beat up. She had a shot, call the woman big, say she did get bigger. But you don't understand what I'm talking. But you needed to grow. You needed to feel. that frame out and you're still a you're still a thin young lady but you're probably what 15 pounds heavy than what you were probably in high school college if that if that so what's

crazy is i think um weight wise well and that i was because i got leader so yeah i'm i'm around the same way i was but i'm definitely i have more of the muscle mass that i'm supposed to have but i've definitely leaned out this year because I started working with the chef and everything and just like really paying attention to what I hear that oh chole wow wow oh cho she started working with a chef and now she didn't wait a minute wait a minute she said she's working with a chef she didn't say what she was eating you she ain't eating boojib you don't look like that eating bulljad McDonald's you like McDonald's too I love big dog.

But, but sorry, Ocho, I will say, I have not been eating fast food. The last time I had fast food was before my wedding in February. And I said I wouldn't have any fast food until after I do all the things I want to eat. See, that's okay. That's okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't try to change. Don't try to change. You heard what she said, right?

Did you hear what she said? Did you hear what she said? She hasn't had it since February. That's okay because she was preparing for tonight or yesterday for that matter. It's okay. No, she ain't going to have no fast food until she get back to the state. But guess what? She said, you know what?

You see, she said, you know what, Ocho? You know what? Let me cut this fast food out and let me see just how great I can be. That ain't got nothing to do with it. Listen, she was fast while she was eating it. So she fast or not. not eating it. No, you're mad.

You're mad because you. She just told you. She hasn't had fast food since her wedding. That was, she said February. She's been fast all her life. She wasn't this fast. What?

She wasn't this fast. Last year and a year before that. No, she wasn't. No, she was. She ran 10-6 back-to-back eating McDonald's. So what you're saying? No, she, didn't she just tell you she hadn't had

McDonald's since February? She ran those times. in June in July. She had chicken and McNuggets. I saw it. But so now you now you shift your focus to the 200. There has not been a whole lot of women to win the world championship in the 102. Is that has that crossed your mind? You start putting yourself in very very elite company. Oh yeah. Now the goal this year is it is I won't say was because it ain't done yet. The goal this year is to win everything. Like I set up, yep, I set out that goal at the beginning of the year when I talked with my coaches and I said, well,

you know, obviously at first, like for the 200, because I'm a very realistic person too. And I fought back and forth with me running the 200 for a long time. But now I'm starting to embrace it. So I'm like, okay, if you stop playing around, then you can actually win the whole thing. So it went from that to just tell my coaches, like, I want to be able to take the 200 more serious to know I'm not only going to be like a contender. Like I want to be at the forefront, you know, like I want to be able to say, like, I came away with the gold medal and the 200. And I know that the only other woman to do so at a world championships is Shelly Ann Frazier Price. Shelly Ann, who happens to be the greatest. She's the greatest sprinter. She is back to back, eight and 12. She won the gold medal. And then you got you, and then she got five world championships.

in the 100, and she won to 200. So you're absolutely right. That's why many labor heard, the greatest woman sprinter in the history of the sport. And it's hard. Look, it's hard to deny it. I know Elaine has won back-to-back hundredth and two-hundredths, less of heart.

But when you look at the totality and the longevity, she won a world championship in the hundred and thirty-five. I was in that race, by the way. And it lasts. I remember there. Man, Melissa, we're happy. Nightcap, the family is very happy, very pleased. Congratulations.

Thank you. Thank you for taking time out of your schedule to come on and talk to us. But, yay, this is not the end. So what's next? After the world championships is over, your season's over, now you go eat some McDonald's or you go get some oxtails or you go get some shrimp at two. Oh, you're from low country.

You're down Georgetown near Charleston. So you're going to eat some, some, some, oh. Rice, neck bones. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about? Yeah, see, she's down to them geese. She's down there in Georgia.

She weighed out. See, hey, also, she'll tell you, they got up, when they brought us, they got off the boat down there close to where she at. Mm-hmm. Man, congratulations. I know everybody in South Carolina is very proud of you. We're proud.

Thank you. We're extremely proud of what you've been able to do. you've been able to do. But don't be satisfied. Be greedy. Oh, yeah. Be greedy. This is what I tell people. They say, but man, they say, Shannon, if you cheat on the test, man, you don't want to get them all right. I say, if I'm going to cheat, I'm getting 100. You there now. Don't be satisfied. Well, I got one goal. I'm happy if I win the silver to the broad. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Double gold. Do something that very few and we don't know how. Think about it. In the history of the world championships, the world championship started in

1983. I don't know if you know this. In 1983 in hells, I know. Only Shelly Ann has been able to back it up with the 100 and the two. So you get an opportunity to do something that hadn't been in 40 years of world championships. Who. To be special. Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations. We're going to be pulling for you. We're going to be watching. Hey, when you get that 200 gold, come on back. Okay. Come on back. Come on back. All right. All right. We'll see you. Melissa Jefferson Wooden, the Olympic, the World Championship 100-meter gold medalist. Oh, wait.

Fastest time ever run. Show us the battle. Yeah, I was just about to say that. You should have had the medal on the whole. I'm sorry. There you go. There you go. Oh, it's not.

Yeah, there we go. There we go. We can see it back it up from the camera so to focus. Back it up a little bit, Melissa. Oh, okay. Hold on. There. Let me just turn.

Right there, right there you go. There you go. That's nice. Yeah, got it last night. Round of applause. Melissa Jefferson Wood. Congratulations. Stay healthy.

Hey, get all of them. 200, 400, 4 by 1. They might need a leg. They might need a leg on the 4x4, but I told them to hold off. Please hold off. If they want to win, they don't put me in there, not this year. I need some time.

I need to stop. Well, congratulations. Go and join the rest of the evening with your family and your husband. Tell everybody at Nightcap, we said hello, and we look forward to talking to you very, very soon. Thank you. Thank you so much. Melissa Jefferson Wooden.

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