Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Notre Dame-Miami, Dak SURPRISED by Micah trade
Episode Date: September 1, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Notre Dame taking on Miami to conclude Week 1 of the College Football season, Dak Prescott breaking his silence on the Dallas Cowboys trade of Mica...h Parsons to the Green Bay Packers, and much more!05:20 - Miami-Notre Dame34:30 - USC Gamecocks- VT36:35 - FSU QB mocks Bama38:55 - Nico Lamaleava walks away from Tennessee Vols42:15 - Micah Parsons (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oh, Joe, Miami Hurricane.
Take down the number six fighting Irish of Notre Dame,
2724.
This is Miami's first win against the top 10 team
since beating Notre Dame in 2017.
Carson Beck, the guy they paid $4 million for,
threw two touchdown passes.
He was 20 or 30, 205 yards,
two touchdowns, clean game, no interceptions.
Irish may have found their quarterback, C.J. Carr,
but tonight's performance will leave Mark and Freeman
with plenty of other questions to answer.
Oh, yeah.
Carr had was 19 of 30, 221, two touchdowns,
one interception.
Do you was in control of this game, Ocho?
I thought they were like going to put it away,
24 to 14.
And the next day you know,
you turn around and the score is 24 24 but give the you credit they put the drive together late in the
ball game got a field goal and then turn it over to the defense and the defense did what they
supposed to do oh joe what did you like um what did you like about what you saw from the you
listen you look very good obviously i was really i was really worried about the quarterback position
how was carson beck going to look how is his was is his resurgence away from georgia
how is you going to look in a university of miam uniform and keeping us i'm
No, excuse me, let me not say us.
Keeping University of Miami program where it needs to be where Cam Moore left him.
They were in good hands.
Yep.
So now, based on what I saw today, they're still in good hands.
Small semicides, weather a little bit.
I thought that our game were going to run away with the game.
Uncle, it was 217.
Yep.
But Mr. Freeman and Carr, and that often found a way to get themselves back in the game
and make it a little bit more interesting.
It's a little more interesting.
It didn't have to be that close.
But for some reason, coaches always have a way of calling a conservative game
to allow the other team to get back in.
Well, I think the thing is a joke.
It's a third record that towards the end.
You don't want to do anything reckless.
I understand because here's the thing.
Think about 283.
Kyle Shanahan called a game like he'd always been calling it.
Now people say, why you ain't running the ball?
Why do they get conservative?
You get conservative and lose.
People are like, well, why do you get conservative?
You stay aggressive and you lose.
People call you a bonehead.
It's a very fine line that you have to walk.
And if you do something and you turn the ball over,
I called a game, but I didn't call no turnovers.
So you can't put that on me.
You know, somebody misses a block.
Somebody misses an assignment or something like that,
Ochoa, drop pass on third down.
Now you're getting off the field.
I've always felt it's easy to play from behind than it is with a lead
because you throw caution to the win when you're behind.
What do I got to lose, Ocho?
I'm already down.
I'm down 14 points.
I'm down 17, 21 points.
I don't have a damn thing to lose.
Everybody's already written me off.
So I can throw caution to the wind.
I can run a triple reverse.
I can on side kick you.
I can do whatever because there is no expectation at that point in time
because I'm down by double-digit scores.
And so I understand to a certain extent.
But I thought Miami tonight, I thought they made plays.
I thought the one-hand touchdown, grab,
Ocho, with the guy, thought he had an interception.
And that's what you have to have.
If you're going to get to where you want to go,
you're going to have to have guys to make plays on both sides of the ball.
I love what Bain Jr. did at the defensive end.
He thought he had it one time.
He got the ball away on second down.
Van's going to come out.
I'm going to get you again and got him again.
But as a quarterback, you know you can't take a sack in that situation.
You got no timeouts.
And all your receivers are way downfield.
So by the time you get them back,
tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
And also, and also, as a quarterback, he's a young quarterback, very good to.
cars very good he surprised me he surprised me tonight you also have to know in that situation
the deepest ends they got the ears peering back yeah they're coming they're coming back yeah they come
they come in right away so you got to do you got to do your you got to do your your two tackles
some justice and being able to maneuver in that pocket right away understanding that them boys
coming straight up here right away uh other than that margars freeman and that notre day team
they're going to be all right they are going to be all right university miami them boys look good
I know right now outside tonight, Unk, even with the rain going on,
boy, it's a good old time.
They don't look like the hurricanes of the early 2000s.
They got that level of talent.
Yeah, exactly.
But they look good.
They look good.
Yeah.
Ain't no Andre Johnson running around there.
Oh, no, you know, no Clinton Porterson, no Frank Gordon,
no Willis McGahey, no shockies, you know, who else was on that team?
When you look at that Antreira Roe,
Ed Reed
John Taylor
You know
William Bryant
And you do those two linebackers
Belma
And so
But I like what I saw
Miami head coach
Mario Cristobold said on
Cain's win
Come on look around
I played in this rivalry
Look at the way
Hard Rock is rocking
Miami Hurricane football
And he played
Hey
They're right
I mean they were
They were rocking
You know
They had a lot of
their former stars, their former great players there.
That's always great to see.
I like that tradition that a lot of these teams have
where they're great players, their former players,
come back, especially if they're able to.
You see Homecoming Week when guys have biweeks.
You see them standing on the sideline at Ohio State.
You see them standing on the sideline at Michigan and Alabama and all that stuff.
It was always great to see that.
I remember when I was in Savannah State and the guys would come back,
it made me feel good.
I really never got an opportunity to get back, Ocho,
because, you know, during our by week,
I think I went to one homecoming,
but for the most part, I didn't, you know,
it wasn't homecoming or they're playing an away game.
But it's always great to see it.
And as you said, Ocho, Miami Hurricane football looked good.
Carson Blake Bank played really well,
20 or 30, 20, 20, 305, two touchdowns, clean game.
He didn't turn it over.
But there's still a lot of football to go.
I don't know if it's Clemson on their schedule
Florida State
that's the ACC
Let me tell you something
It's been a very long time
Chat everybody in the chat
It's been a very long time
Since we got two
Really good teams
With a UM and Florida State meeting up
Yeah
Now that's going to be
Now that is going to be a goddamn game
But what Florida State put on film yesterday
And what UN put on film tonight
Man stop playing man
And obviously, listen, you're only going to get better as the season goes on,
especially from an offensive standpoint.
Right.
Because the offense always starts a little slower.
Yep.
They're a little behind an eight ball as opposed to defense,
who, again, all they have to do is just read and react.
Once they get themselves into a rhythm, man, please.
C.J. Daniels didn't catch a touchdown pass last season at LSU,
but he scored his first touchdown since 2023 with a one-handed grab in the rain.
And, you know, I thought the ball security was fairly well.
I mean, considering the inclination.
climate weather seemed like the turd gave a little bit you know you below sea level so once
things get saturated the turf is going to give if i'm not mistaken oh cho i think they had a black
college football i think howard played somebody on that in that same stadium yesterday you mean
somebody howard played the illustrious the one and the only then y'all get beat you of all time
they played fam you didn't y'all get beat huh didn't y'all get beat oh it was 10 to 9
It was 10 to 9.
So which team had 10?
All I didn't know, who had 10?
Who?
Who had 10?
Oh, Howard.
Oh, so who had the 9?
The greatest HBCU of all the time, family.
So they lost.
Can I tell you something?
Yes.
Yes, you can tell me something.
Florida A and then March in 100.
They won the halftime show.
So technically, we won't see them go.
the human jukebox?
Southern?
Yeah, I'm bad.
See, I can't even say
nothing bad because I love Southern.
I can't even say nothing bad.
And they turned up.
Hey, they showed out for us
at the Super Bowl.
They did.
They showed out for us.
I love Southern,
especially what they did for us.
Down in New Orleans,
I love you to death,
but you know, my allegiance,
my life,
if I cut myself right now,
why I bleed,
orange and green.
You bleed orange and brown.
Oregon State Beavers.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I bleed, I bleed.
Oregon State.
You have to understand.
Remember how bad I was in high school coming out of high school?
No, I'm going to see.
I'm going to see.
I'm going to Google.
Oh,
I was supposed to be at FMU.
I was supposed to be at FMU.
I'm telling you, listen, hey, young, let me tell you something real quick.
Hey, chat, let me give you a small example, right?
When I was in high school, I wanted to be like a receiver that played for Miami Edison
High School.
Y'all could Google this, Google this.
I looked up to these boys.
boys. His name was Jacquay Nunley. Somebody, I don't know. If I have anybody in the chat that's
from Miami, you might remember Jacquay Nunley. Went to Miami Edison, played receiver from
Mama's sake. I think he might award number three. He went to FAMU. Me as a high, me coming
out of high school, oh shoot, I want to be like Jacquay Nunley, but I want to go to FAMU. So that
was part of my love for family right there. Outside of my grandma and my mama and my mama always
having me at the classic
every year as a little kid
I went to the Florida
classic Unks in 1984
my mom and my grandma
went to Cookman
they went to Cookman
but I just
that orange and green
where they came out
they were Marge and Unk
I was like
oh I got to go there
I'm a great
but they said you went to the beavers
well unk
I had to go to the only place
I can get in
I had to go to the only place
that would accept me
yeah
to go to the place
that was willing to give me a one for one
with no eligibility left.
Thank you to Dennis Erickson
who remembered me from the little camps
when he was with the hurricanes.
That's why he gave me a shot.
After you went to Samo,
you could have went to Famu.
After you went to Sammo, you could have went back to Famu.
I was already on the West Coast.
I didn't want to navigate and come all the way back here
because I had to get out of Florida
to really get to my destination.
Exactly. That's why it worked out when you weren't supposed to go to FAMU.
Right, right, right, right.
You're still better in Miami and you go home to FAMU.
Yeah, but listen, the funny thing about it is when I get some time, right now I have, like, I got like 273 jobs.
Yes.
But when football season ends, I'm enrolling myself back in school at FAMU to finish everything and get my degree.
I got, I ain't even got my degree yet.
I just got a whole bunch of jobs with no degree.
So I'm looking to get my master.
Well, how close are you, too, getting your degree?
Hey, boy, listen, don't let me tell you, don't let me lie to you.
Oh, that mercy.
So you father, so in other words, you spent two a couple of years in college
and you fall away from getting a degree than you win when you win.
But, hey, hey, listen, God is good.
But you're going to take online classes?
Take online classes.
I'm going to school.
Your big rough ass ain't going to be sitting up in no classroom.
Who not?
I don't, fam, Tallahassee, right down the street.
I know what FMU is
But I'm saying, but listen
I would have the time to go to class
And get that HBCU experience
Because once football season ends
All the jobs I'm doing
It comes down to a halt a little bit
And I got a little bit room to maneuver
So I want that experience
And then also not only am I going to enroll
And go back to school
I'm also enjoying the band
Because you know how much I love the band
You know I play saxophone
I can play drum
I play tuba
And then Shelby Chipman
Shelby Chipman who's the band
The band director at FamU
Boom, ready.
I can probably see if I can try and be the drum major or something.
Okay.
Yeah, listen, I'm taking my second half.
This is my second half of life, I got to do something with it.
I got a small window opportunity.
Ain't no telling when I'm gone.
Ain't no telling.
I'm on the other side of the mountain.
Once you hit your fit, once you open your 50s, you're on the other side of the mountain.
So I'm going downhill now, so I'm trying to get everything out of the way
and check everything on my bucket list.
It all depends on how much you did coming up on the other side of the mountain.
It would determine how long it's going to take you to get down on the other side of the mountain.
You know, that's a good question.
I don't mean to be, what's the word I'm looking for?
I don't mean to sound ignorant.
Yeah.
But I've been out out of school so long.
Yes.
How in hell do I find out how many more credits I need for one to get a diploma to graduate?
Well, you have to get your thing from Oregon State.
Transcript?
Yes.
Get your transcripts.
Yeah.
You think they still got all that?
Yeah, hell, yeah, they still got it.
Okay, okay.
Let's hope you got some credits.
I know I got something.
I don't know, Ocho, because I think you made you the eligibility.
You were going to, I think you, I don't think you was trying to, I don't think you
tried to get no degree.
I think you were just trying to stay eligible.
Hey, that's it.
That's it.
I probably was.
I probably was.
Listen, the funny thing about it on, is I'm one of the, I'm one of the,
the smartest, sharpest pupils in the classroom.
I just had a problem not wanting to go to class.
Yeah.
I think the thing is, do you have a problem now, Ocho,
is that you be in your age and your mind,
turn your mind off about those jobs that you got.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So now, because you got to focus,
I mean, I don't know, like you said you want to go to class,
to sit in that classroom, and you sitting there,
because I remember when I went back at Ocho,
I was 20.
I was 22.
And I'm sitting in the classroom, and I'm like,
I got more money
and everybody in here
make more money
to the teacher
I say man
I got to get up out of here
I say ain't no way
there's no way
Ocho I could have waited
and I'm always impressed
by guys that do it
that wait three
four five years
and then go back to school
now if you're going to do it
online away
okay that's fine
but to go sit in those classrooms
I couldn't do it
you see why you can't do it
you understand why you can't do it
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You've had that experience.
You've been to ASPCU.
I have.
I do it.
I've always wanted.
My dream was to go to Florida A&M.
That was my dream.
I never got to relive that.
You know, so I had the cars I was dealt, I did the best I could with them.
But now I have the opportunity, you know it.
I can finish off that childhood dream.
No matter how old I am, you got to understand.
But going to class, I think on, I mean, going to class, actually going to school,
if I'm not mistaken, a class ain't about an hour long.
It all depends.
I mean, it all depends.
We were on the quarter system, Mocho.
So you're right.
We only went to a class for like 50 minutes, but it was five days a week.
If you're on the semester system, you might only have to go to class once to twice a week.
So it all depends.
And then, you know, you might have class.
You might have labs.
I mean, it's been 30 plus years.
I mean, I graduated in 91.
So it's so long.
I couldn't even tell you.
I just know how my attention span is.
Is that to be able to turn.
Yeah.
I said, man, me and meetings,
me and meetings don't get along.
Me and meetings don't get along, man.
That's the difference.
The difference with me, you have to understand.
I can sit there and you'll be like, man, what you doing?
I can sit there and play Madden for nine hours straight
and one chair and not move.
Not move.
I can put FIFA for eight, nine hours straight.
I can stream for seven, six hours straight without movement.
So imagine me going to school and being excited
because it's an experience I'd never got to do before.
What about the class?
What about the curriculum?
Are you going to be excited about every class that you take?
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely, because I understand what the end goal is.
And, no way to get to the end goal, I got to put the work in.
They ain't finished just hand me no damn diploma.
I'm trying to walk across the, I'm trying to walk across the stage,
throwing them fangs.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
That's the best part about it, to walk across the stage and have your family scream
your name and everything like that.
Family?
Boy, y'all is my family.
My mama gone, my grandma gone?
But I'm saying you got Chonsie, you got the kid.
I mean, the kids going to be there, yeah.
Okay, listen, going to be the nightcap family.
It's going to be you and Ash and George and everybody else.
Okay.
Okay.
I'll show up.
All my kids, you know.
Let me know how many of your graduate class.
I'm going to come where they get to Johnson so I can be a little late.
Hey, listen, I'm going to come.
You know how they do the new graduation.
I'm coming out.
Hey, B.C.
Hey, one, boy, shoot.
My daughter's done graduated, man.
And my daughter then graduated from Prayerview A&M, man.
Yeah.
And I ain't graduated yet.
How didn't beat me?
My oldest daughter graduated.
My son then graduated from Arizona State.
I'm the one with no diploma.
My kids doing better than me.
Yeah.
But that's what you want.
You want your kids to do better than you.
That's the whole purpose of why you did what you did.
So they wouldn't have to go through.
So they wouldn't have the struggle.
Now, look, I don't want to absorb all my kids from struggle.
Because sometimes people are like, no, no, no, no.
You want your kids to struggle somewhat because you want them to understand.
life is not a bed of roses so you want some struggle but you don't want them to have to go through
what you went through when basically your entire life was a struggle but some struggle for a kid
bills bill calluses and help them or navigate this thing called life because at some point in time
there will be a struggle yes there will be some hard
hardship, there will be some adversity, and you don't want them to have such a smooth ride
that they don't know how to handle or navigate that obstacle or that roadblock that's
been placed in front of them. But yeah, you want your kids, and you did, you did what you had
to do to make sure you put your kids in a better situation than what you came up in.
It's a funny thing about it. And one thing I won't do up here and get up to a panel,
like the reason for my kid's success and the reason they're doing so well in life at their age now
at their big age right now is because of me because they'll oh wait oh it's not oh uncle it's not
those i have kids from yeah they do a hell of a job and they still doing a hell of a job
that's why that's why i can't wait and this goes for everyone and they they're probably
see this they probably not reading the chat but when i win this powerball right you laugh i'm not
even playing. I'm fin to win the powerball, right?
You're going that 1.1 billion?
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to spit it in three halves.
Half going to those I have kids from for a job well motherfucking done.
Okay.
One half going to nightcap, because we can do some wild stuff.
Lord, have mercy.
Oh, Joe, I'm not, look, out of skydive, I'm good.
I'm going to let you do that.
I'm going to be on the ground, film it.
Listen, and the other half going to the nightcap followers.
See the subscribers.
Yeah.
So 1.8, whatever it is, we're going to break down a huge portion of all in them.
for always supporting.
Right.
That's how I know God going to bless me
because, you know, I'm going to do what I'm supposed to do with the money.
I'm going to do good, giving back.
Well, we got to get, we got to give, you got to get a percent to the church.
We got to find some churches that's doing the right thing
that's helping people in the community.
Because you got, you got a tide.
Okay.
Oh, well, we're going to start with new birth.
We're going to start with new birth.
You're going to have been to New Birth.
What about New Birth?
Remember, I told you I grew up in New Birth.
Hold on.
You're talking about New Birth and Latonia?
I'm talking about New Birth.
in the Opelaca.
Oh, okay.
I thought you...
Yeah, I'm 135th.
My bad.
Pastor.
Hey, Reverend Victor Curry.
Okay.
Pass the, yeah.
Come on now.
Talk to me.
I thought you were talking about new birth in a...
It's another one?
Yes.
Yes.
Where at?
In Atlanta.
I think it's in La Thoree.
They got a congregation.
I think they got a congregation about 20,000.
What?
A what?
Yeah, about 20,000.
I think it's about that big.
A church?
Anybody go, anybody who, who, who, uh, who go to new birth to?
in this chat. Hold on.
A church with 20,000 people?
Oh, yeah. That's like a college
stadium. I mean, a small college stadium.
I think Pastor Jamal Bryant
is the pastor now.
Oh. Okay. I think that
yeah, he took him from Bishop Eddie Long
who passed away. I think he had cancer
some years ago. I think Jamal Bryant
is the head pastor now, if I'm not mistaken. I think
chat, don't quote me, but I think
he is the pastor at new birth.
God, hey, a 20,000 congregate?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's it called him?
Creflodala, I think his first Christian something.
Joel Olstein.
I mean, yeah, they got a lot of the,
I mean, they have two services, Ocho.
Yeah, they call megachurches.
Joe Osteen in Atlanta, too?
In Houston.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, but these mega churches, yeah, yeah.
It's not the churches that you and I grew up
that we were hoping to have a hundred people in there or something like that, you know what I'm saying?
Right, right.
And, you know, Fourth Sunday or the anniversary, church anniversary or something like that,
you might get an overflow crowd.
But, yeah, man, these churches now, Ocho, they, you know, look, I, you know, I read my Bible.
I read these, these little pamphlets, man, I just don't believe in the prosperity aspect of it.
I don't.
I don't believe in church members suffering while the pastor.
just living great.
I don't believe in that
prosperity. I don't. I understand you
tied. You give what you can.
But when you start telling me, I must do
this, just count me, I'm just
going to go in. I do what
I might not necessarily tied to the church
every month, but I give, I
do this charity,
that charity. I make sure I do
what I can, what I feel out of the goodness
of my heart. I just don't tell people
about it because I don't think that's something you
should advertise. But I'm proud of you.
I hope you do go back in, uh, um, um, um, the life church in Oklahoma has 85,000 members.
Man, come on, come on, come on, man.
Weekly attendance.
So, so how many, how many, how many, uh, wait, 8,500, 800, 8,000 weekly, weekly attendees.
Because some churches, some churches, you have two churches, two services on Sunday,
and then you might have another service or a couple of services during the week.
So that's where, uh,
go ahead how do you get that many people 85 000 people that's more people that the that that paycourt
stadium the bangles fit in the stadium what do we talk about mhm baby hey you you talk about the
bible oh cho you know you know in the south people believe in that bible they look that's why
they look down certain certain aspects of sexuality and things like that they frowned upon that
But, you know, look, we're not, we don't need to get in that.
But, hey, uh, uh, uh,
Joe Austin has 45,000 members, uh, weekly, uh, weekly attendees.
Uh, Crefloddala, he has a big, what's his, uh, church name?
Faith, Chris, Chris, Chris, something.
Put Creflow dollar.
Type that in there.
Hey, one thing about it.
I love the word.
I love, I love, I love, C-R-E-F-L-O.
you heard me
15th
you heard me
I say I love
some of these churches
some of the things
I'm hearing about them
yeah
huge congregations
but I go to church
for two things
I go to church for two things
I go to hear that word
yes
they got to hit a choir
yeah I don't want
I want that old traditional
good gospel
that old
hey
man listen
what a friend we have
in Jesus
that that old
You hear me?
Hey, his eye is on the sparrow.
I need that old school traditional gospel.
Like I'm listening to Reverend James Cleveland.
Like that kind of thing.
Yeah.
The Mississippi Mass Choir.
The Body Cloud of Joy.
Now we're talking.
Shirley Caesar.
Come on, nah.
Hey, hey, oh, I'm going to take you back real quick.
The Ken spirituals.
Yeah.
Man, stop playing.
That's the kind of gospel I'm looking for.
Now, I don't know if I can find that in the kind of churches we have today.
Yeah. I mean, that was
All I want to do is when they sing
Before the prayer and after the prayer
When they start singing, we had a lady that would come to our church
She wasn't a member. I'd never forget her name was
Miss Margie Bird
Man, that lady could sing
Yeah, hey, Chad, if you're from Glenville
Reesville or from the surrounding kind of classy
You know who Miss Margie Bird was
Lord, that woman had a voice
Yeah, hey, nothing like you see that woman
walk in like
Hmm
And it didn't fail
Ms. Margie, you want to do a solo?
Lord, that woman get up there, Lord.
Hey, listen, I had the, ooh, boy you got, listen.
Ms. Maul get on that piano?
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Hey, I had the opportunity, young, obviously, growing up with being able to see, I'm, uh, Miss Mosey Berks.
I don't know who you know.
I don't know who that is.
Listen, Mississippi Mads Pire, she's led many, she's led many of, of, um, oh, but you got me about to tear up.
damn it. Hold on. Let me get some
tissue. Shit.
Those are the days, man.
Look.
Those were the days, chat.
I remember those days being a little boy, my feet
couldn't even touch the floor. Just sitting there
and, you know, the old man
prayer, they have on them of them rib socks
with those Stacey Adams. Shined to
the gill.
we miss those days i miss them hey yeah hey boy you got we could talk about them old day
boy you got me tearing up boy godlie boy no day don't you know the days hey
boy i had the opportunity i'm sorry i'm sorry chat excuse me for that i had the opportunity
of seeing mosey bergs who led the mississippi mass choir many of times and in chat you might
know the song uncle you definitely don't know this song one of favorites this morning when i rose
This morning when I rose and I had no doubt, man, chat.
If you don't know.
We got to find, you know what, Ocho, we got to find a gospel concert.
We'll have to, we'll have to step up in there.
Come on now.
Come on now.
You know, you know, I'm saying?
Ocho, I ain't going to be able to use them in 2025.
But, you know, you know what I'm saying?
But, you know, I got them.
And so just in case, you know, they wide, you know what I'm saying?
They wide leg, Ocho.
You know,
When they're wild legs?
Yeah.
That's sharp, man.
That's sharp, man.
Peak lapels?
Yeah.
Bad look here.
So clean, fly light on me.
I cut his throat.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I like it.
I like it.
Matter of fact,
I just,
every time I talk about gospel,
I hear something about gospel,
we get to talk about the church.
Mm-hmm.
You tell me anything
when you come to dogs or animals,
I get to getting emotional
for no reason at all.
Man, I do to something
earlier today.
I thought
that goddamn
Kiki Wyatt
Unk
Mm-hmm.
I retweeted
like I didn't tweet
that much of the day
so if it's still
on the timeline
right now
and she was singing
and I just put
the goat at the top of
and I listened to it
man that lady
that man something special
She got a voice huh
and she got a voice
boy
she's so rangy
she ate she was in there
she was playing
she was in that plan
she was in that plan
like this is what I do
let's transition back to Miami Hurricanes 2025 schedule
Ocho they beat Notre Dame in 2724
next week they're at home against Bethune Cookman
then they're at home against South Florida
then they're at home against Florida
then October 4th they're on the road against Florida State
home against Louisville home against Stanford
at SMU home against Syracuse
home against NC State
on the road against Virginia Tech
on the road against Pittsburgh
Hold on, hold on, just a second
Something is at a neutral site
What game played?
FSU last, right?
No, no, no, no.
FSU is October 4th.
Hey, they got a good chance to run the table.
But you said they got the answer.
I don't really see it either.
Oh, yeah, they got a chance.
You know, they got South Florida, Florida, Florida State.
Most of the Florida State game
ain't going to be easy now. Oh, no.
Not based on what I saw yesterday,
especially from that Florida State
defense. Yep. They look
good, boy. Oh, Joe, the number
13 South Carolina game Cops beat
Votech, 24 to 11. The game
caught open the season with a win over
his coach Shane Beamers, Alma
his dad coached there for almost
30 years.
Frank Beamer, right?
Isn't that his dad name? Right.
Carolina looked good.
Carolina looked really good.
That big receiver they got, Nick,
what's his name?
Hold on.
Man, they got a receiver, Ocho, like 6'4, about 2.30.
He can fly.
Carolina, South Carolina.
Yeah, man.
He ran, he run 10, 10, 100 meters, 20-20,
into 200 meters.
Yeah.
Oh, man, he looked good.
He caught a bomb.
Caught a bomb.
Oh, here it is right here.
um but i like carolina i like the way they got out the field i like them uniforms uh the quarterback
lenora sellers sellers yeah yeah he played he played well today and uh he has that ability
he's a true dual threat he has a nice lively arm um can obviously can run out can get outside
get out the pocket and make plays i thought they i thought they did a great job of uh and mike
Shulah's calling the plays. Mike Hula called
plays in the NFL. And so
Sellers was 12 of 19,
209, one touchdown, clean
game, no interceptions.
They had 37 carries for a buck
19, one touchdown.
But the
defense played well
for Carolina defense game to play well.
Very very well. A safety and three field
goals, you can live with that. You can live
with that.
Mm-hmm.
But I like
I like those, I like those uniforms.
Carolina got some nice uniform, yeah.
You like the all-black?
I like that all-black.
I like that all-black.
All-black.
All-all-black.
You ain't like Virginia Tech all-or orange, no?
Yeah.
Maybe they had Mike Vick out there running around
and I'm about liked them.
Okay, okay, okay.
Florida State, quarterback Tommy Costellanos
mocks Alabama with merch
after opening up, said,
proud of FSU game, Costalano stated.
They don't have Nick Sabin to save them.
I just don't see them stopping me.
Costellano not only backed up
beating Baltimore 31-17, but now
it's profiting office.
He's selling on Shirt's website,
Tonning Alabama merch, Nick, can't save them.
What's the pettiest thing you've ever done
after backing up your trash talk on the field, Locho?
Hey, that's a funny thing.
Wait, excuse my ignorance.
As a collegiate kid, are you allowed to sell merch like that
and profit from it outside of NIL?
You can do that?
Yeah, I guess so.
Oh, that's dope.
I like that.
For one, the fact that Castellanos said that before week one
against the game like Alabama, and then went out there and backed it up.
And did it.
Man, please.
He did.
Alumni and all of them students probably bought all that stuff up, right?
Oh, of course.
Of course.
It's only up from here.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's only up from here.
All right, just keep winning.
Hey, keep winning.
And your pocket's going to get fat and fatter, young man.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
He was 9 to 14, a buck,
52, 16 rushes and 78 yards, but he was the quarterback of note.
His team won.
He played really, really well.
He didn't have stats to blow you away.
The most impressive stat that a quarterback can have is a win.
Because at the end of the day, that's how we measure.
That's how we're supposed to measure quarterback.
And he's won more, and he beat Alabama, and we know what Florida State has been over the last
couple of years.
There are a lot of people that was calling for their head coach's job.
but the alumni and the
they stayed
the booster and the president
they stayed true
so they were believing this guy
because they had just went what
didn't they go to the up eight
no they had lost their quarterback
they didn't make the college football playoff
they lost the quarterback
but came back and
here they are
open the season with a big time win
they weren't ranked but they will be
when the rankings come out on Tuesday
yeah absolutely
But that's what you have to do, Ocho.
You have to go out there.
He said what he said, and he went out there and backed it out.
He backed it up, and he's right.
Coach Saving couldn't save him.
Kaelin DeBoer, you got to get on, you got to get in on the action, bro.
It's time to go.
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And they lost 43 to team.
He finished with 11 completions on 22 pass attempts, 50%, 1,336 pass of yards, one touchdown, one interception.
Hey, sometimes you've got to be careful.
Yes.
Sometimes you've got to be careful.
Now, this is just not a message for him.
This is message in life in general.
Sometimes you're in situations, sometimes you're in situations where you want more
and you think the grass is green on the other side when you got stability right there on your backyard.
Mm-hmm.
You got comfortability right there in your.
backyard.
And Tennessee is a no state, not to cut you off with your, but if I'm not mistaken, I think
Tennessee is a no state income tax.
Yeah, come on now.
You got, you got to understand that.
Then you're trying to be greedy.
Your play on the field is going to take care of itself.
If you want more money in NIL, it's going to, you take care of that in between the lines
with your play.
They will have no problem bumping you up.
They let you go for a reason.
They let you go seek out what you're looking for, which is more elsewhere.
And then you go somewhere where you make.
you make less and they tax you more
and they tax more
and you lost your first game
against Utah
come on man
that's a life lesson in itself too
so that's a life lesson in itself
so
a million dollars so you at
36% tax rate
so every million dollars you get
630,000
so he could have made 1.260
now he's making 600,000
so he left 600,000 on the table
that's money in his pocket
come on you got you got to do better
understand the situation you win
because California is a
I think a 13%
yeah 13% state income tax
so you figure 36%
plus 13 that's 49%
then you got FICA and then you got
all these other because hey California
hit you over your head
oh they're coming to get there
boy California hit you over your head
they get there. Well, they get all that.
All that.
They need to use that goddamn money.
They expand the goddamn four or five.
They make it $200.
They're victim traffic.
Well, if that's the case, they need to make it to $18.
No, they don't need to expand nothing.
They need to, look, I mean, California, they'd be taxing.
They got what, probably the fourth or fifth largest GDP of anywhere in the world.
And we talk about a state.
We're talking about the United States.
We talk about a state within the United States.
That's how much money that they make.
It's just that you can't take care of every single person.
Yeah.
You know, and Cali try to, they try to take care of every single person.
I think they waste a lot of money.
Oh, Joe, Michael Parsons was reportedly viewed by some Cowboys teammates that's egotistical and self-centered.
Oh, man.
Hold on.
Sports Illustrated Albert Breer reports, Martin Lamb,
and Prescott are very popular in the locker room.
That's Zach Martin, C.D. Lamb,
that's not the case with Parsons,
who has rankled teammates in different ways
seen by some as egotistical and self-centered.
His podcast, which we knew, Ocho,
has created issues too,
and they go all the way up to the quarterback,
Dak Prescott.
We said that we would start hearing negative comments about Michael.
Ocho, what did I tell you?
We just had this conversation.
I said, oh, Ocho, now pretty soon,
you're going to start hearing negative comments
about Michael Cepin, that longer room.
I think it's coming, Ocho.
I know it's coming.
But I always felt because here's the thing, Ocho.
You do a podcast.
You lose, the first day they're going to say,
if you get your ass out of the podcast
and practice and study your play, you win games.
In order for your podcast,
you've got to be interested, you've got to be entertaining.
So you've got to take shots at other people.
And, you know, I think there was a situation.
Wasn't they talking about quarterbacks?
And he didn't have DAC in his top five or something like that?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I remember that.
So, yeah, I get it.
I don't have a problem.
I think the thing is, Ocho, a lot of people want to get on the media,
going to get in the media space, and they're trying to create that medium now.
But you have to be careful.
You really have to be careful.
I tell guys, look, if CBS or Fox or NBC calls,
you and they ask you go do it on your biweek right go to your local news station talk sports talk
to the you know the guy that does sport that's what i did when i was in Denver i had a local
radio show but when they called me hey i would go do do highlights do something but this podcast
i mean you you have to be careful and plus and i'm going to turn it over to you oh joe everybody
is not going to be like in a locker room i don't care how great you are they're going to
be some people that you're going to rub the wrong way.
You don't talk too much.
You standoffish.
You don't talk enough.
You don't ingratiate yourself to the locker room.
So everybody is not going to be beloved.
That's okay.
That's okay.
But I knew this podcast would cause an issue.
Go ahead, on Joe.
It shouldn't have.
There's no reason it should cause the issue.
Anything Micah decides to do outside of the game of football when he's not playing,
when he's not in meetings, when he's not playing a game, you know, it's all for it.
I'm all for it.
If you know, Michael, if you.
You met him personally.
You understand he's a very playful, fun-loving guy.
He's not, he's a likable person.
He's not in a type of place that you could, you can not like, you know, or one of those
people who come to work and is strictly business, he doesn't associate with you.
No, he's friendly.
So again, when things like this come out, of course, those who might not like him
or those who probably don't do their goddamn job on Sundays at 1 o'clock.
I bet I bet I bet you that.
Those who don't like them are the ones who don't show up like he showed up the past four
years and doing what he's supposed to do and being one of the few who's had 12 sacks in the last
four years at his position. I guarantee you that. Let's pull up the stats for the people or the
person that's in that locker room that claims they don't like them. And I guarantee you it doesn't
live up to the standard at their position that he lives up to it is. I bet you that. It's always
a hate and a shit. I'm sorry. It's always someone that's not frowned upon someone else who's doing
something outside of the building, but they handles their business inside of the
building, especially in between the lines.
That's it.
It is.
But I'm not, look, I'm not surprised.
I'm sure there are a lot of people that like me in Denver.
Some didn't.
Some people like me in Baltimore.
Some didn't.
I guess some a little more now than others, but hey, that's not either here nor
that.
Oh, Joe, you know, Cincinnati.
Hey, that threw me for a loop.
That threw me for a loop.
I mean, I know, I know, I don't.
But I'm just, yeah.
It threw a lot of people for a loop, Ocho.
But I looked.
It's over with now.
And let's go to that right here.
So because it's just add, just add some layers to her.
Just a week ago, Dack said he was confident
Parsons would be on the field for the Cowboys matchup week one.
Well, Dak has a new tune since Michael got dealt.
I definitely think he was going to get a trick.
I definitely didn't think he was going to get.
to trade did you traded but just the way their negotiations went down obviously to the
some extent some extent hell y'all were asking me questions remember i said that's how it becomes
a distraction because you're not asking me about the game you're asking me about my contract
hell y'all y'all y'all was asking me question it seemed like it had gotten personal
which we said that it had become personal uh and so that's why i wasn't surprised
yeah i told you it jerry's ego now yeah it came out the day that deron bland got a contract
extension but did you but did you know well deserve well deserve but they had been working with
his representative since offseason jake ferguson got a deal they had been working with his
representative all offseason they're trying to get tyler smith done they're working with his
representative you see here ocho you see how jerry's ego jerry's ego wouldn't let him work with
Micah, Aja, because I'm going to show you I do what I want to do.
And if you want to do a deal here, you're going to do it my way.
So if you work with all of those guys' representative, he worked with C.D.'s representative,
he worked with DAG's representative.
I just listed three guys represented that he worked with.
But for some reason, he was unwilling to work with Michael's representative.
Yeah.
He took that friendship in those conversations to heart.
He took those friendship, those conversations in that friend.
friendship, the heart. And Micah, Micah split that right down the middle. Listen, I play for
your team. You sign my checks, but when it comes to conducting business, you're going to have
to talk to my representation, even after whatever handshake, whatever words might have been exchanged.
That's not the way contracts work. That's not the business works. You were trying to undermine
Michael Parsons. You were trying to pay him not what he's worth, obviously, because he mentioned
about what he was offering, but the offering that he was paying Michael to make him the highest paid,
was before T.J.Y.
Got paid.
Mm-hmm.
It was before Miles Gary got paid.
And plus, he said, I'm going to make you the highest pay, but you added, you added years.
You added a year to it.
Yeah.
Trying to be slick.
Try to be slick.
Miles Garrett.
Miles Garrett got four years 160.
No, bro.
I'm not, I'm not going to let you do that.
I shook your hand, but I told you, call my agent, call my representative.
You won't call the representative.
representative back?
No.
You try, no, no, no, no, no.
They told you, no, we don't, you want to do a five year plus the option.
That's six years.
Most agents want to keep that thing four plus the one because I want another bite at this.
Now, because once Michael contract, once his, that 30, 136 guaranteed money.
So within the first three years, he's not going to have any more guaranteed money, the back end, Ocho.
So now, and plus, that means his, uh, his, uh, his,
his cap number is going to be extremely high because I get to pro rate that 120 over a five-year
period.
So I try to try to div it up equally.
But at the back end, those last couple years, Ocho, that thing going to be high to drive here.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So now I come back to the table.
Well, you know, hey, you know, six years.
No, Michael says, hey, I'm 26.
I can get another bite of this apple at 30.
y'all have to see your boy at 30
Fadi come on now
But that's what I'm looking
I'm like hold on
What you mean they talk to
They talk to the Ron Bland's representative
What do you mean they talk to Jake Ferguson representative
What do you mean they're looking to talk to Tyler Smith representative?
Right
Micah just asked to talk to my representative
No we had a deal
No we didn't
I shook your head and told you
Call my agent
Right
he knew what the agent was going to say
oh he no
wait the supposedly
the best agent in the game oh you know
exactly what he was going to say
you knew exactly you can't pull
a fast one on the agent
pull a fast one on the player
yeah because he's looking at Michael's looking at
Ocho he's looking at that man 200 million
Ocho oh no no no no no no see
it looked good
it looked good but the agent
the agent got a magnifying glass
let me peel back some of these layers to this
20 million you talking about.
You know?
They got light on, Ocho.
I got light.
You know what I was dark in the room?
Motech.
I can't your feet.
I need it.
Yeah.
You know what you're going to be
restaurant, Ocho?
And they hand you to me and you,
I pull out my phone
and I quick put that light on.
And, oh,
who do you need to be pricing.
Damn.
Hey, it never,
it never, ever seems what they say it is.
Never.
That's why you need representation.
That's it.
I'm not, oh, Joe, I'm not saying.
We've seen guys,
we've seen Lamar and his mom,
and with the help with an NFLPA lawyer
do the contract themselves.
But they made it abundantly clear.
We're not hiring representation.
We'll do something hourly.
We'll get an NFLPA.
We saw Bobby Wagner do that.
We saw Sherm do his own contract.
Okay, if the guy says I'm doing my own contract,
I got no problem with that.
The owner, the general manager,
can work directly with the player.
You see Shee Gildges.
Now, it's a lot easier in basketball
because you either get in the max
or damn near close to a max deal.
So She says,
I'm not going to hand over.
three, four percent when I already know
I'm going to get the max.
Right. Got it. Got it.
But in the NFL,
hey, Lamar said I feel I can go out
alone. That 3% I can keep that
in my pocket. And when you're dealing with that kind of money,
it's 3% don't seem like much. When you
start dealing $100, $300,000, $300 million,
3% is a damn lot of money.
A lot of money. So with that
being said, he knew Michael
had representation. Now,
he worked with everybody else's
representation. Now, if that's what I have,
What I read was correct.
It said they've been working with De Ron Blan's representation all offseason.
Same thing with Jake Ferguson, and they're working with Tyler Smith, trying to get something done now.
We know they work with Dak Prescott.
He's the highest pay.
He didn't do a deal directly with that.
He worked with Todd France.
Who's the CD's agent?
He worked with that.
But for some reason, I just need to know why was he so unwilling to work with David Mugoletta?
I just need somebody to explain that to me.
I also probably understand maybe he didn't want to pay Michael all along.
Maybe he didn't want to pay Mike all along understanding that he had other deals coming
off the table like the Ron Bland or whatever he can get ready to do with Jake Ferguson
or whoever else they might pay before the CAA.
Okay.
Okay, they would CAA.
Yeah, but here's the thing, Ocho, if that's the case, if you needed to stop the run,
if you didn't like the way Michael was hurt, if you don't think Michael, so why would you negotiate,
so why would you want to do a deal with the guy if he's not what you think he is or he's not
the player so why would you even enter why would you even try to work a deal with it why not
just go ahead and trade it why not get a draft pick this year because he was lying to itself
oh he was lying to us trying to make us believe that he's the reason yes we're trying to believe
like okay now he's gone well we let him go because hey we need to get better stopping the run
child please yeah you hadn't been able to stop the run for four years
So what you got all those defensive tackles for?
You see, the problem that I have is that your defense was not built to stop the run.
Your offense was.
And Shannon, what do you, and the people, I know chat you're asking me to say, well, Shannon, what do you mean by that?
His offense was bid to get the lead.
And so now his defense pinned the ears back.
They're an undersized defense.
And as long as you can keep the game close or you can get the lead, you can pound their ass.
Pause.
You can run the, because I know what y'all go, I know y'all go, y'all about to say
some crazy stuff.
So in other words,
you can run the ball on them
because they're built
to play with the lead
and get pressure.
Now, guess what?
They ain't got no lead.
They have to stand up in there.
And a lot of those guys
ain't got a whole lot of bricks
in their back pocket.
So when you build your team
a certain way,
well, you build your team
with speed,
you need to be able to use it.
And if you got a team
that want to run the football,
speed don't help you.
No.
Mm-mm.
At all.
So that's one of the thing.
And look, and people like, well,
would that could have, no, if I'm back, I ain't doing nothing.
I'm getting all my money.
Oh, absolutely.
My job, my job.
You tell us in a player.
Ocho, what they tell us?
He's a player.
Well, if I'm a player, my job ain't tried to figure out the cap.
You figure out the cap.
You don't pay me extra to work on the cap.
You pay me a salary to do what I do on the foot.
football field.
All that other stuff, it ain't my job to worry about the cab.
Well, you know they got a cap and you can only do so.
I ain't got nothing to do with me.
You know what else?
You know what else works in favor, especially in quarterback positions, especially in
DAC's position.
There have been other quarterbacks that have been in great situations with the timing
of when it's time for them to get paid.
There's nowhere else for that team to go.
Right.
There's nowhere else for that team to go to get someone that's competent enough to come
in, come in and be quarterback number one.
So you ain't got no choice but to pay.
these young fellas, what they owe at the time.
You got no choice because there's no other option.
Right.
And plus, I'm not, first of all, I don't trust Jerry.
Jerry ain't built nothing in 30 years.
So why would I, why am I going to leave him money on the take?
Why am I going to, first of all, this is my really first big bite at the Apple.
Why am I going to give a guy that's worth $15 billion?
Why am I going to give him a discount?
Absolutely not.
Chat, let's just say for the sake of argument, you work for a company.
And that company is worth $20 billion.
and they say, you know what?
Charlene, we want to get
Pam in HR, but it's going to cost us
to go take $15,000 of your money.
Well, Charlene ain't going to be in HR
because you ain't taking a dime of mine.
So, no, you don't give no billionaire, no discount.
You're a millionaire.
Now, if the next contract,
that wants to be generous enough,
that's different.
That's on him.
But I feel no obligation
to cut you a slack so you can
No, no, no, no, that ain't got nothing to do with me?
Not that first one.
No, sir.
Because what Jerry say?
When CBS, I don't know if you watched this, CBS had had the broadcast right.
A lot of the other owners, CBS was losing money.
A lot of the other owners wanted to keep CBS as the broadcast partner.
Jerry said, no, we're not cutting them a deal.
We're not going to do it.
But see, Jerry refute.
Go ask CBS.
Yes, go ask NBC, go as Fox, go ask Amazon, go as Netflix.
Did y'all get a deal with these NFL rights?
They didn't get a deal, but they expect players.
Well, shut up there as a cap, what do they got to do with me?
Ain't no cap on my bank account.
My bank account says there's much money that'll pour you and we can take it.
That ain't got nothing to do with me.
because teams will make as much money as they can.
Now, it's going to something very interesting, Ocho.
Now, you watch with these next contract.
Watch around 28.
Because these things come do, they come and do,
Ocho, about 20, so 20, 20, 20, about 10 years.
Watch around 28 when they start doing it.
What?
You're going to say, hey, we want some of this.
Netflix is going to say, hey, man, live programming.
We want some of this.
Amazon said, who, ooh, man.
Oh, man, I see what we do it.
Hey, I see what we do it with these Thursday night games.
I see we do with these Black Friday games.
Woo.
Just imagine we get a whole package.
So that 430, that 432, going to probably be $6.50.
Come 20, 28, 20 to 9.
Yeah, I'm going to get me a little piece of that too.
Hey, so, I, man, please.
Yeah, we're going to get me a little piece of that.
I need to hollet Jeff.
I got a, I got an interview with Jeff Bezos for a position.
over at Amazon.
So I'm excited to see how that's going to go.
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