Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho REACT to Packers beating Commanders in TNF, Sterling gets his HOF ring!

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Thursday Night Football featuring Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders vs. Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers. Later, they preview the biggest stories heading into Week 2 of the NFL season! 03:30 - Packers beat Commanders19:25 - Sterling Sharpe Joins34:30 - Browns' Grant Delpit says 'not hard' to tackle Derrick Henry47:05 - Malik Nabers on sideline demeanor50:25 - Dan Campbell on Ben Johnson’s trick plays (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, what did you make in this ballgame? Jordan Love was 19 to 31, 2-92, two touchdowns. Two touchdowns, no interceptions. Jane Daniels was 24 of 42, 200 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions. But he was hounded all night long. They pressured him relentlessly, and they took him down four times. The commanders were unable to get a running game going, Ocho. They had 19 rush attempts, 51 yards.

took the running game away and they unleashed the hounds on jane daniels and they win the ball game 2718 what did you like about what you saw from the pack listen from the packers everything obviously michael parisner was the story jordan love and those receivers were the story they were what we heard about leading up to this game but to me the back end the back end defensively for the packers Xavier mckenny brother nixon on the one side they were to me the most surprising which popped out on film which is why which is one of the reason that is why I think the Packers are going to go very far this year, not only into the playoffs, but make that running an NFC to contend for that Super Bowl championship.

Unk, this is the, what, the Packers haven't started 2 and 0 since, well, I think 2020, if I'm not mistaken, and they look phenomenal, not just on offense and Jordan Loveless. The receivers did exactly what we expect him to do. I'm hoping Jayden Reed is okay. I think his collarbone, he might have fractured his collarbone. You can tell the way he feels. fail and they put that weight on it. Yep.

You already know. But everybody else stepped up. Everybody else stepped up offensively. Your love did his thing. Josh Jacobs did his thing. But that back in, that back in for the Packers, obviously not having to. The poses and the threats that the Washington commanders did have were nullified. They were nullified because their back in played extremely well.

Unk. They sit on, they sit in on routes, sitting on plays. normally that another team, you're not sitting on them. Well, they know they don't have to play. They don't have to cover long because they know the pressure is going to come. So they know with Rashon Gary. They know what Van Ness. They know what Michael Parsons.

They know with those guys, Wyatt and all those guys, it's going to generate a pass rush and we don't have to hold up long. Right. So, hey, until they show us they can hold up and there's a chance we get a double move. Right. Okay. But we're sitting on everything. Hey, we're going to stand back here and we don't believe you have time to run by us.

Right. So if you run by us, hey, the coach, you're going to say that's on me. So you'll have to back up, going to play them have to play them a little bit more honestly. But when you got that kind of relentless pressure and the only thing that really saved them a lot tonight because Jaden Daniel does have legs because they were coming. He did not have a whole lot of time to throw the football. And once you neutralize that run, now you've made the commander's one-dimensional. Once you make a team to one-dimensional, now they're at your mercy because guess what?

We already know you can't run it when you want to. We control the terms of disagreement And the terms is you're going to have to throw We know you have to throw And we're coming to get you Yeah There were two plays With a defensive back

Brother Nixon for the Green Bay Packers That stuck out to me on film He was playing off at 7 He did his three-step read He's not even looking at it He's not even looking at receiver Receiver's coming off full speed His eyes locked it on Jaden Dales

Yeah Three steps went Those eyes shifted back to the receiver and he stayed so fundamentally sound. He didn't panic and his pedal never came out of his pedal. Dude tried to run a stop route. Man, he broke on that. It almost got picked going the other way.

Then came back later on in the game and said, okay, we see what you're trying to do. We're going to study you now since you're so aggressive and you're jumping everything short. They tried to pump him. He stabbed just a little bit just to throw the time. timing off a little bit, speed turn, got right back in the hip side, not the ball down. Those two plays of me stuck out tremendously for me because I understand how difficult it is

to transition like that as a DB and having that eye discipline and being technically sound and savvy, being patient to be able to do what I saw tonight in those two plays. It's easy to do in practice, but seeing them execute it in a game, knowing that the pressure is going to get there, man. hands down. That back in to me for the Packers stuck out on film. Back-to-back weeks. Last week, they allowed 246 yards to the Detroit Lions, fewer than 250 yards to the Washington Commanders. That's back-to-back weeks. That's the first two games of the season since 1995. Michael Parsons generated a team high eight pressures.

He had a half a sack on 37 pass rush attempts in his second game with the Packers. Six of Parsons pressures came in the second half. Look, he's in there. guy. You know, and I understand they got a lot of edge guys. And so you're going to have sometimes guys are going to have to line up inside and it's all congested in there, but he needs to be in space. Yeah. He can use that quickness. He can use that ability to move and bend those edges. I saw the thing that was showing, kind of showing like DT at a 40 degree angle, Michael Parsons at a 42 degree angle, both can bend the edges. But I think that's the, that's the thing is, Ocho, you're right. That back end looked really good.

But when you get that kind of push up front, you ain't got a hole up long. Right. You ain't got the whole up long. Kraft had an unbelievable job at the tight end position. He had 124 yards. The most since Richard Rogers in Week 13, 2015 against Detroit. That was the miracle in Motown, the Hare of Mary game, Jo. They've been losing the whole game.

And then Aaron Rogers rolls and Richard Rogers plus the hell Mary. But defensively, there's nothing not to like. Look, George Love, he was late on one throw. He should have another touchdown early in the ball game. He was just late. Oh, to Matthew Golden, the one of Matthew Golden. That was 86, and it allowed the DVD to recover. Yep.

I don't know why he put that much air in front of those jokes. He looked like he tried to touch it instead of just let it go. Just let it go. Ain't nobody over there, brother. Just go ahead and throw that. And then he had another when he put too much on it because Golden had split the seams. Yeah. And he probably had a probably, he probably should.

should have used a little a shorter club. Yeah. He had too much club. You know what? Just in comparison, Matthew Golden runs a 4-4, right? And I look at that play.

I look at that play. And this is where I say, where I think Tyreek is so special. I don't mean to bring up Tyreek. But a play like that, a ball like that, where Tyreek is in that position, where he split that safety in that corner, he makes that catch.

Yeah, but that's the deal between, I mean, run right up under that ball. But that's the difference between 4-2 and 4-4, though. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're right. He's going to run up under that. Right. But there's a good chance if he doesn't, if he, if he hitches, Tyree's going to outrun it.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So the thing is maybe in a situation like that, you can't, you know, you can't take the hit. You just got to basically when you just let it go. Yeah. Because Tyree, with a free release. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

It's not run that. Free. Nah. I mean, because the thing is you got to make, you got to make, you got to. to make Tyree drop step you got to make him do something you just let the man have a free release like he's running a hundred meters just free go he's gone well you ask you you really ask him for trouble uh yeah but i you had to be really impressed with the packers look i'm not overly concerned against watching that was a buzz saw that was a short week uh uh uh and that's no excuse

but when if you can't run the football against the team that can generate that kind of pressure you're going to be in for a long night yeah because you got to slow you got to give them something else to think about Ocho. Right now, they're not thinking about anything. They're not running about Eckler. They're not worried about Merritt, uh, Koski Merritt. They're not worried about any of those guys because what you've shown is that you can't run the football against our front four. Right. So now we'll, we'll worry about to run. Hey, y'all have of that. Right. A linebacker, y'all hell of that. We go and hunting. Yeah. They did a great job of keeping Jay and Daniels in the pocket. They did a great job of when he escaped the pocket because they got guys that can run. They got guys

that can hunt, hey, and the coach turned loose, hey, these dogs gone hunting, and they did a great job of tracking Jay and Daniels tonight. 24, 42, 200 yards, two touchdowns. He didn't turn it over, but he was under constant pressure. Michael Parsons had eight pressures alone. They sat them four times, so they probably pressured him another, you know, probably 12, 13 times tonight. That's exactly what I'm going to ask you.

Do you see the presence, the presence of Michael Parsons, that defense obviously obviously listen they were really good even if he wasn't there but his addition to that and speeding up everything else for whoever they're playing offensively being destructive throwing off the timing helping that back in where the dvies right now but they um they're looking like uh they looking like hall of famous out there now yeah looking like hall of famous where it seems as if they're making all the plays but if you don't understand the game you're looking from the outside looking in, you'd be like, oh, my goodness, boy, these boys back there's an old world.

Oh, world. You're right, but that, but you can do that, Ocho. Yeah. You look at the secondary when you had, uh, Reggie, when Reggie was in Philly. You look at those guys, all those guys that were, because you had Reggie, you had Clyde Simmons, you had, uh, uh, uh, Jake Rested Soul, Jerome Brown. Yeah. Look at what you had. So, EA didn't have to hold up long. No. They didn't have to hold up long.

Yeah. So, the ball's going to come out. quick you got reggie you got reggie on one side you got j you got clad on another side you got j buggy and who eric allen was on one side right yeah you remember who was on other side of eric allen or do you remember it was uh the defense let me see if i can remember they were uh reggie clide jerome brown by i think byron evans Seth Joyner, EA, Muddy Waters. I don't, I can't, off the top of my head, Ocho. I can't, I can't remember at all.

All I can see Eric Allen with that 21 on, clear as day. Clear as day. I can't remember who was on the other side, Ocho. Yeah. But they were, they had a very, they had a very good defense. Man, you look, EA, he was in, he was in New Orleans also, played in New Orleans. Well, it must be on the back end, because I don't remember that. I know you don't.

No, he finished up. If I'm not mistaken, I think he finished up with the Raiders. You remember him with the Raiders? I remember him with the Raiders. I remember that. And I definitely remember the Eagles. I think he went from Philly to New Orleans, New Orleans to the Raiders. Okay.

Can you check that? Eric Allen. I think he went from Philly to New Orleans. and then New Orleans to a yeah and if I'm not mistaken he was uh when they had the the don't the Dome Patrol right when they had Paps Willings Ricky Jack uh Vaughn Johnson and they had Sam Mills the field or the field my middle lineback of Sam Mills yeah yeah yeah I think I think he was there with them so he's always had a pass rush in front of that's why he was sitting on everything and he had the record before deron bland broke it with those six with those five return touchdowns

because he a was sitting on everything um but they were they were they were they were loaded they were they were very good team now he was an outstanding defensive back had great skills uh he could take the ball you know he could take the ball away and you know the thing he had great he had great feet he was small small small you know but he realized he didn't have to hold up long yeah but a lot of those guys had uh i think ricky jack had already gone if i'm not sure i think uh swill might have still been there i think sam mills at that point in time had already gone to uh carolina um so but they were they had a they he had a he cut his teeth over in in philly that's where you know most of people remember him from but he had an outstanding career joy love finished nine of fifteen a hundred

to 75 yards both touchdown came against the commander's blitz on throws of 10 plus air yards against the blitz love was six of eight for 144 yards and a touchdown his 14.5 air yards per attempt is a career high mark. Ocho, did you like what you saw from Jordan Love? Yeah, absolutely, because the whole point of blitzing is to throw the timing off and get to you before you can get the ball out. Jordan Love is doing exactly what veteran quarterbacks do and understand, okay, based on what I see, based on tendencies, based on watching film, I already know what's coming.

One of John Love makes points. He communicates with that officer line and they see what's coming, no matter how much you bluffing and rotating and doing all that shenanigans, or we know what you're getting ready to do. And when a quarterback knows it ahead of time, you get the kind of night you got from him

when it comes to passing the ball when they're blitzing. I'm not sure what percentage that the commander did blitz, but I guarantee you 98% of the time that they did, joy and luck completed that pass yeah well you're right oh cho you try to throw the timing off but those receivers so quick did you see that touchdown by doms or the goal line

yes hey I'm I'm sure listen I'm not a defensive back on I'm not a defense of back but I love defensive back play what he did was stick to the outside why you even going for the first move you got to have patience like sally made keep your heels on the goal line and don't go nowhere what you what's you moving for he didn't even make a move

And all the time did was stab outside and come in. And because when you study Green Bay, what did Devante Adams? What right did Devante Adams catch so much? But it got that phase stop and that speed out. And yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, you're right, you right, you're right. Hey, how many times we don't see Devonty Adams run that two yard out for a touchdown?

Yeah. You better go for it. Right, you're right. Because here's the thing, Ocho, if that man run that speed out and you're not closed, like bro what you waiting on why why you plan to see me right well that's a really that's a really hard and that's why i say oh joe if you up there if you if you if you up there ohcho are you going to press or not because if you up in a press position you got to get your hands on the guy would you got free release you let a guy free release you right yeah especially down there because

you get oh cho the man ain't got but two three yards go for a touchdown so he completed he in the end zone. You're right. You're right. Listen, I never understood with DBs. There's one DB that I've seen that's been able to do it because he's so disciplined. And his outer movement is so good where he can be up and press and not touch you at all because he can stay in front you the whole time and that Denzel Ward. Obviously, you have other other players that are good that do it a little differently, but they love to use their hands to maintain a leverage throughout the route and stay on top of you. But listen, you got to, if you're going to get up there and press, put your hands on them and throw the timing off. Right. But put your hands, because it throws the timing off right

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Yep. We got a very special guest joining us tonight. Packers Hall of Famer. He received his Hall of Fame ring tonight. My brother, we became the first two brothers to be inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And he takes a few moments of his time. I mean, I think that's him. I mean, I can't see a whole lot, but I think that's him.

I'd be your phone muted your phone muted your phone can somebody tell Jamie that his phone is muted he's going to get it he working on it he working on it no it just see he like me

he can't work technology either No, we can't hear you, bro. All right, how about now? Yeah. There you go. Oh, grab my jacket, please. How about now? Can you hear me now?

Yeah, oh, you just got at the car, so you at the hotel now? Yeah, I just got, I just got to the hotel. Yeah. Are you in Green Bay or are you in Appleton? I'm in Green Bay. bro, I just left the game. Oh, okay. I just left the game.

So you get your ring. So now this is the final piece. You got the, you got the, you got the, you got the call when we were in, came down to Atlanta. You get fitted. You go to, you know, all that stuff. The Super Bowl, you get fitted. And then all the build up to it, you get the, the ceremony, the induction in August. And now this is the final piece in front of those stands that you cut your teeth and you made a name.

and you made the sharp family the first sharp and you made us proud so now after you've had all this opportunity you had the better parts of seven months to absorb this what did this moment finally mean has it finally hit you now really you know the thing is it's one of those things is the line of what has to happen kind of thing you know how you know how it goes we we went through this we went through this when you went through it you know we went through the whole we went through the whole we went through the whole you know, this is what we have to do. This is where you have to be. This is what you're going to get. So it's just another step in the process, man. And I just look at it that way. I don't look at it as, you know, my career ended in 1994.

You know, my football was done in 1994. And this is just an extenuation of, you know, being able to come back and stand in front of the fans that I played in front of, to let them know that I appreciate them, you know, to get a ring that is 10 times too big to wear every day to do anything with

but you know it was a good time I got I got Susan some here they're right there there they go right there there's hey there they go right is that hold on is that soothing or the Berman right here there she go right here

they're going to Bermber right there hey Berm yeah man Hey, Suez. Yeah, but see, we were doing, you know, it was good. We got a chance to come back and do that and just be here. I mean, you got to think about it, man. I don't know.

When were the last time Susan was back in Green Bay? Oh, I was a high group, small baby. 2004? Yeah, 2004. Yeah, 2004. Yeah. It's been a while. It has.

And you hadn't been back since what you went into the ring. You went to the Ring of Honor, right? So you've only been back a couple times. I hosted the first show for NFL Network after they won the Super Bowl in 2011. Okay, so I came back when they played the, they had the first game on Thursday night. And I was at NFL Network then. So I hosted then. So, yeah, since 2011, I came back for your, for your podcast,

the first time I've been back since 2011. Wow. We can tell, we can tell you just got on the elevator, too. Yeah, I know. We got, we got, we got, we got eyes everywhere. We all hear your conversation. That's the whole point. The point is, and, bro, hey, games over,

on festivities over, bro. It's time to go to bed now. We are on my way back up to the room. You know, y'all leave first day, first thing in the morning because y'all got to go from, you y'all fly direct or you got to go to Chicago? I got to go to Chicago.

Oh, okay. But no, it was a great night, man. We got a chance to enjoy some friends we haven't seen in a while. I got parents, Ron Holstrom. Of course, Hover family, Leroyd Butler was here. Olympia and Dan Jansson was here.

So it was a good time you know it was a good it was a good time for it was a good time for us man so we we enjoyed that we did that and now we back at the room getting ready to get our stuff packed and get out here i mean what what does it mean because a lot of those a lot of those people that were in attendance tonight they didn't get an opportunity to personally see some did but not a lot of those people didn't get an opportunity to see you uh see you personally see your career what does it mean to you, what did it feel like to have 70,000 fans

or really, because they love their Packer player. 80,000 fans. 80,000 to be able to let them know that, you know, I know that I'm playing what I said tonight, Shan, I got to say in front of

Grands and Great Grans. So it was pretty cool to be able to talk to grants and great grants about what it meant for me to be, you know, for, I understood, you know, because, and you know, when I first got to Green Bay, they weren't very good. No.

They were not very good. And when I left Green Bay, they were a lot better. And the wonderful thing about our fans is they're not fair weather, Brad, whether it's minus 300 degrees or if it's 86, they show up. Oh, Chuck, they show up. I mean, Ocho, my brother's first NFL game, I thought I'd killed him because he froze to death. That's how cold it was.

And so, but the thing was, is he was there, the fans were there also. So it's tremendous to be able to let them know. Because, you know, when I left the game, the fans didn't know I wasn't coming back. Right. They didn't know. You know, all they knew was, oh, he had a neck injury.

he didn't get to play into two playoff games and so he is you know we're building something they didn't know that that was my last game had no idea

so and and I don't know if you guys got a chance to say goodbye and you know I got a chance to say hello because I was the seventh pick in the first round but I never got a chance

to say goodbye not that I needed one but you know if you say hello you really kind of feel like you want a chance to say goodbye. And to die it, I got a chance to do that. That's awesome. No, I retired. You remember in 2004, you know, CBS gave me the call.

And they asked me to sit at the table and I realize and, you know, you're like, look, man, you get too old to play football. You don't get too old to talk. And there's no guarantee that this position will be available next year where you really want to retire because you want to go back and get year 15. There's nothing you can do that's going to change people. of you. You got the championships. You got all the records. Hey, go ahead and take this job. And it was an easy, an easy decision for me. Now I just called Mike and said, Mike, I appreciate the opportunity

that I would really love to come back. But this opportunity that I have that's before me right now is just too good to pass up. I had a thing. I got my teammates came back and I was like, hey, thank you guys for everything. But I'm out of the dough. Right. Yeah. And that's it. But, but, you know, when you play, we're all. at different stages or parts or reasons for playing this game. I played football because I wanted to. You know, I played

football to impress my brother. And when it was over for me, and I said just to the media tonight, the only two people that were happier that my career ended were the two doctors that told me I should never play a game.

I was okay with my career ending. You know, I was okay with moving on. I was okay with using my college degree to be able to see what was out there, what was next. I was looking forward to what was, I was looking forward to what was next. And so being able to do that, man, I was, I was happy about being able to do next. I was really prepared for being able to do next. And I was in a neck brace and didn't know what was going to be next.

I didn't know what was going to be next. Right. So, man, congratulations, man. Thank you, man. Thanks for taking time out. I know you got a lot going on. I know you got to get packed and you're ready to get up out of there. No, man, no. Hey, hey, I want to do one thing for your, is she over here?

Yeah, don't worry. Oh, she's not there yet? She should be. She's talking about it. Hold on, man, because I want to introduce your audience. You know how I am. I don't do, I don't do, what's the word I'm looking for? I don't do recognition very well.

I don't, I never have. I'm more of a behind the scene, somebody else gets the recognition, but I would love the opportunity if you will allow me two minutes if she's here. I want to introduce you to the architect on why I came back to Greenback. I have not been on Lambeau's field. since the day I stood on that field watching the playoff game

the last playoff game so I have not been back but I want to see if she oh she's here hold on she's here hold on okay so bro this is Kathy

hey I better agree I'm at the Hall of Fame I would not I would I would not be here if it wasn't for her um

you know me bro I'm not nostalgic I'm not that kind of guy that needs my ego stroked or oh well let me come back and be recognized but the reason I came back to Green Bay on this night to get my ring because I told

the Hall of Fame is just sent it to the house the reason I came back is for her because she has been she's wonderful at what she does she is very passionate about what she does and you know what she got me through this he said she would

she was the reason that the party went so well The party went so well Then you were there You know what that looked like And how that was This is Kathy She made this work

And I just want to give her Her flowers while I can In front of your audience Thank you Ocho And let her know That I really appreciate her She's a member of the family now So we can talk to her

Any way we want Because she's a member of the family But Kathy Thank you Thank you for She's the reason I came back And it was a good night. We had a good time.

We're going to have one more drink, and we're going to bed. All right. Kathy, thank you for the great job that you did at the Hall of Fame. It was unbelievable. I speak for everybody that was in attendance, especially my family. It was very well put together. Thank you for handling everything to get him and the family to and from Lambow to receive his ring. I personally can't thank you enough, but about half of the Sharp family,

thank you for all you've done for my brother in this whole entire process. Well, thank you. thank you it's our pleasure really all right man all right man y'all lay it down like y'all supposed to we'll talk later thank you all right bro all right yep um you put me on some podcast yeah uh i know he doesn't um oh thanks all thanks all right man log off i know he doesn't um my brother's gonna have a uh a full surgery on his eye, his right eye. He had a, he found out he had a detached retina and he almost lost the eye and he's had several surgeries on the eye trying to get it corrected. And this is one of the reasons that they had it so early. He drove to Canton. And he really didn't, he really

didn't want to come because the pressure the doctor says, you know, you keep risking it going up into that pressurized situation with the eye. So he's going to have his fourth surgery on his I later this month and hopefully they get it corrected and it's a process that he has to spend about 14 hours a day face down for six weeks.

He has to sleep in that position so he bought one of those cradle tables like a massage therapist so he spends the bulk of his day face down. It might be more than that. I think it's somewhere between 14 and 20 hours a day face down for six weeks. And so

I want to take the time now to hopefully that thing, it goes well this time and we won't have to have another surgery on the eye and he gets to keep the eye. So Nightcap family say a prayer for him as he's about to go on, you know, go through another surgery and hopefully this time they get it corrected. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero.

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Not hard. He responded to Delpit later that day saying he was aware of Delpit comment. He had a quote. We'll see on Sunday. Yeah, I like it. I like Delpit coming out publicly like that. Obviously, you look at so many players that play against the Ravens, that played against the Titan when Derek Henry was there, that turned away from contact, that shot away from

contact, that chose to allow him to run by him and they rather attack him from the side and make a business decision instead of attacking them head on. Delpit is one of the few. I mean, there might be maybe one or two other safeties that really just don't care, Unk, they don't care nothing about their bodies, and they're going to go in there and stick their face in there, and it's man on man. It's money on himano. Delpit kind of setting the tone for the defense, coming out with comments like that,

obviously, giving the Ravens bullet the board material, but them having the personnel to be able to back that up, now they got to do just that. got to back it up catch his ass going left and right catch him going east and west once you allow him to get north going north you already know what time it is but that's the problem what time it is you do realize now Derek Henry going to go out of his way to see if you bought that you know I said oh yeah you know he's going to go out of his way and we go see we're going to see if it's not as hard as you said it is oh yeah absolutely because there ain't a whole lot of safeties that's looking to tackle Derek Henry head on, especially if he know you coming.

See, it's either to sneak up on somebody or you hit somebody, you know, he's trying to stiff from somebody and you catch him. Now he knows, oh, Grant, what's his number, y'all? Okay. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I got it. Listen, I got it.

I'll take it from here. I like it. Hey, what, whoever, hey, don't block him. Zay, don't worry about him. Hey, get somebody else. Hey, you take Denzel Ward because I don't want him to try to have it to chase me down. Right. I'll take care of the safety because you know, Ocho, in a situation like that, a lot of times, we can't block everybody.

There's one person free. It's kind of like the punt returner. Oh, yeah. Part returner, we're going to have everybody else blocked up. You got the punter. You got to block him. I take everything else. I take everything else.

They hear everybody say, hey, don't even worry about Greg Delpit. Mm-hmm. I got that. I like it. But look, this is an old, look. There's no love loss between these two teams. No. Baltimore is seething.

They know they let a game, but so is Cleveland. Cleveland say we had the Bengals dead and the right. We missed a P.A.T. and a field goal. Yeah. Lamar Jackson and that Baltimore, Raven said, hold on, wait a minute. Maybe we had a 15 point lead under four minutes to go. Oh, we're about to go ahead and try to do something bad to y'all. Miles Garrison, y'all ain't about to do nothing bad to nobody.

Not if I got something to say about it But I tell you what Number 77 Better do a better job Than what he did again In Buffalo Hey that was bad That was bad

That was bad He looked like he was lost On some place Hell I thought he was like They're doing the macaron Just because he didn't have Anybody in front of him Obviously if nobody's in front of him

Obviously if nobody's in front of you Help your partner out Look to your right Help your partner out He's going He's sitting there turning in circles Not touching nobody Nope

Like what are we doing head up inside most dangerous man that's how it would block normally to your inside which is you got a guy head up that's you yeah you got a guy inside out that's you yeah other than that if ain't nobody there you take the most dangerous man like you said ohcho hey help somebody out yeah absolutely you know you know what i do like to from from grant on with we don't get this enough we don't get this enough in today's NFL we don't get players coming out and not saying anything malicious, but posing a competitive challenge to their opponent. I like it because now for me, there are a lot of games that's being played at one o'clock, huh?

There are a lot of games going to be being played at one o'clock. But you know which one I want to tune into? Simply because of the back and forth between those two, I want to see the Browns and I want to see the Ravens because I want to see what's going to happen when the Ravens are on offense and they have to run the ball and is Grant Delpit going to come to the party when the door is open that's all I want to see that's all I want to see

amongst the other things that those teams have to offer offensively and defensively everybody can be watching 22 versus what what number Dale Pitt where

he were one got no Greg Newsom zero right whatever it is I want to see I can't wait I can't I'm gonna be front and center

matter of fact I'm gonna be at the sports book and I'm gonna tell them in the sports book I want the Ravens Brown's game on the big screen I wanted him he's nine oh nine okay okay okay okay yeah yeah uh my thing you go cho is like look I don't have a guy because here's the thing there are no ramifications if because if he lose they're going to say well what did you want him to

say no I wanted you to do what you said you was going to do yes sir no don't talk about oh it was a game and you know I ain't backing out no no no no you said that man ain't hard to tackle. Now, I'm going to need you to drop some lumber. I need you drop anchor and make Derek Henry feel you. Yeah. I ain't talking about those side and jumping on his back and the whole, but no, you said he's not hard to tackle. I want to see if he's not, I don't, I don't want to see. I ain't talking about Miles Garrett. I'm not talking about nobody else. I'm talking about you. You said that. So now you wrote checks. Everybody else got a cash. Now, I don't know how much money y'all got of the defense in this account but all I know is that you wrote a check

that y'all ass going to have to cash yeah I like it I like it that's that's all I know and and most of the time when a player comes out and speaks out as you look at you look at me most of the time for my officer player when I did all that talking for 11 11 12 years however long I played I knew one thing not only do I have to back it up but I put pressure on myself I took the pressure off the rest of my teammates so all they had to do is go out there and do their job because I had 10 other people trying to knock my head off absolutely I don't play on the defense side of the ball now if you play on defense and you come out you're talking like that oh you ain't got no choice but to show up because now all eyes are on you right all the pressure is on

you now you got to fulfill everything you said man right about hey I can't wait way we know there's no love loss between these two teams they're in the same division they've been in the same division like I said the Ravens were the old Browns now the Browns have their own team that just goes to show you what to think about it now the NFL

made Art Modell leave the Cleveland Brown colors and the records in Cleveland. No other team in the history of moving has ever had to do that. The Cardinals did not leave They're in St. Louis.

They took them. The Raiders, they moved from Oakland to L.A., L.A., back to Oakland, Oakland, to Vegas. They're still silver and black, and they still got their records. The Rams have moved. They were in St. Louis. So were the Cardinals. Nobody. Even the Houston, the Houston Orlis, they moved to Tennessee.

They didn't have to leave that. The Colts were in Baltimore. Yeah. They left in 1984 in the middle of the night. They didn't tell anybody. Got it, yeah. Only Art Modell had to leave his colors and the records, and they got a new team. Yeah.

So there's no love, especially between the city and Mr. Modell, but a lot of the people that was there doing that process, the Ravens have been in Baltimore now since 1996. Since 1996, so damn it in 30 years. Well, it's 30 years. Mm-hmm. What's the hostility for? Right.

Look, I play, you know, look, obviously I played two years with the Ravens and we played the Browns. We beat them, beat the hell out of them the first two years. They beat us the second year there. But I'm going to see, I'm with you. I'm going to make sure I'm watching, you know, I'm going to make sure I have my box on and have my look by uh my uh my uh my computer because i'll be watching because i want to see now you best believe now i'm gonna say ocho mm-hmm i saw somebody with an alligator uh alligator my with a hummingbird ass because somebody would do it a lot of talking yeah

and he ain't have a lot of bricks in his back pocket so we go we go see this ocho this hey let's start they got some great games on sunday They got the Eagles. We got the Super Bowl rematch. Super Bowl rematch. But I'm going to play very close attention to that game. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Listen, for me, the number one game that watched for me,

despite the Super Bowl rematch is the Ravens and the Brown, simply because of the trash talk and the exchange the trash talk. If the goddamn Chiefs happen to start 0-1-2, well, hey, it might be time to hit the panic button. But again, if you have 15 at the helm, what you do in September really doesn't matter because by the time

you get to the back end of the season when it matters most the Chiefs are going to be in the race so regardless of who wins this early Super Bowl rematch in week two eh ain't really mean

it ain't really meaning nothing so we're going to find out Cleveland doing a lot of talking we're going to find out if they're going to be able to back it up the question also Ocho the Ravens

what if they fall to O and 2 well hey I think the Ravens fall in the O-N-2 and the Chiefs fall in the O-N-2 there's no reason to hit the panic button, huh? There's no reason. Because who are the quarterbacks?

Patrick Mahomes? Who's the quarterback for Stevens? Lamar Jackson. That's a hole that they can dig themselves out of. But also, what you got to look at? Look at the quarterbacks in the division with them, Joe Burrell and Aaron Rogers. That's not the normal cast of characters

that you normally see with a team. Because, okay, now, go to Patrick Mahon's division. You got Justin Herbert. You got Bo Knicks. Yeah. So you got guys now that can get great quarterback play. So this notion that, oh, it's a no brainer. No, no, no.

Now, mind you, you've already lost to the Chief, I mean, to the Chargers. Yes. And next week, you're on the road to the Giants. So it's not like the Chief's got an easy schedule. Because when you win the division, you got your, you know, you got your team that you're going to play outside of it. You got your division cross-matchups. Maybe it's, I think Kansas City might play the NFC East or something like that.

But then you also get division winners from other divisions. So ain't no cupcakes. No, no. Hey, you, hey, that's one thing about the NFL. They make you earn it year after year. Oh, yeah. Ocho, after Sunday's loss to the commanders, Malik Neighbors, explained a fiery sideline exchange with head coach Brian Dayball as an attempt to

people up because he felt like the team's energy was not where it needed to be. I was trying to get the offense going. I was trying to tell people get rolling. The lights were on. The game was on. It's time to play. I feel like we just got pushed over and everybody was just talking about attitude and stuff like that. It's just I got that NBF.

Nasty B face. You know what I'm saying? That's just what it is. That's just my face. I don't know. I don't know what all you. talk to me about to talk to me i look the same way every time i don't know it's just how i am but i guess i have to smile more he said that he spoke to coach day ball about just the sideline

demeanor since the game and knows he has to be more conscious of it and the future because of how many eyes are on him during the game most definitely you know they they will misconscrew that they will misconscrew uh your passion you know at that position especially playing receiver now when you have a when you have a quarterback that does the same thing like that and he shows that passion and enthusiasm for the game to get his teammates going and you're you're having confrontation and what they think is confrontation from the outside looking in and it's just you reacting to the low what's the word the low excitement of your team and trying to get everybody going on trying to get the fellas to get the going when things aren't going well maybe things

are going well not going well offensively or things aren't going well defensively and hyping everybody up around you sometimes it works but when you're when you're when you're a skill position is frowned upon it's frowned upon you have to carry yourself a certain way because the mannerisms in which you do they call it disgruntled if a quarterback does it they call it passion it's the same act but they word it differently depending on who you are in what position you do play yeah yeah because of and especially playing that goddamn new york correct got to be they get label you get labeled disgrunt you get labeled they use the term malcontent they you know I'm saying you a diva

yeah well why can't I have passion why can't I want to win right oh I'm selfish right right I mean listen huh we've seen one man passion is another man's selfishness another man's diva the funny thing about it is we've seen Tom Brady do it on the sideline I'm talking about go the hell off

yes we see a lot of quarterbacks do it yeah I'm not we've seen Peyton Manning do it I mean go the hell off I'm talking about screaming at his offensive lineman. You remember that clip, chat, if y'all remember the clip with Jeff Saturday and Peyton Manning going. Yes, I did. Oh, my goodness. That happens all the time.

It happens all the time. But when Des Bryan does it, oh, it's an issue. Oh, it's a problem. When Steve Smith does it, it's a problem. When Steve does it, it was a problem. But anytime it's a quarterback that does the exact same thing in a passionate manner, it's definitive, it's definitively described different. Correct.

And it's always been that way, always. And it always will. So we're not going to change it by discussing it here tonight. People are going to look at it one way. It all depends on who's doing it. Yeah. So that's where we are on that. One thing that Ben Johnson became known for as an offensive coordinator in Detroit

was the trick plays. But Dan Campbell said trick plays are the least of his concern as he gets ready for Johnson's offense. you practice one or two things you do every for every opponent but i don't really care about trick plays let's just handle the meat potatoes of an offense and the defense and uh what we think they're going to hang their hat on let's stop that first let's worry about that let's make sure we're all on point and we'll handle the other stuff they may hit us with one that's that's all right that happens get back to the huddle let's get on to the next plate oh cho you give the bear the bears a chance

to beat Detroit in Detroit? Absolutely. Absolutely. I think they have a chance in general simply because Ben Johnson knows the lines very well. He knows the deficiencies in which they have defensively. He knows what he can attack and what he can attack.

He knows what plays the call to play to the strengths of Caleb Williams and he knows Caleb Williams' weaknesses as well. Again, collectively as a team offensively, they're going to have to play well. they're going to have to play well and Caleb has to make all the right decisions when it comes to throwing the football

he got to make all the right decisions and be a little bit more accurate because you're not going to get very many chances the chances that you do have you have to maximize on all opportunities we have opportunity for big catches big plays and touchdowns you do and then he let one slip

he had a he had DJ more I think and he overshot him he should have put that ball in there because they kind of blew the coverage and he kind of sailed it on him. Yeah, that's what you're saying. When you get opportunities like that, you get when you get opportunity, when someone makes a mistake, you got to make them, you got to make them pay. Because guess what happens? If a guy misses a block, if there's an unblocked defensive lineman, he's going to hit your quarterback in the back and he's going

to make him fumble the ball. Yes, sir. So you've got to make them pay the ultimate price when they make a mistake. You've got to hit your head on the goal post. You can't say, damn. I missed that up. No, you can't miss that because they're not going to miss that opportunity. I guarantee you, they get a free rusher. They're going to make your quarterback turn it over. And it's really, that's the gist of it. And you mess around and make a mistake on the other side of the ball. They're going to make you pay for it.

So you need to make guys pay for the mistakes that they make. So if they don't have, if you have an unblocked lineman, take the ball away. If they blow an assignment and the safety in the corner get mixed up about who's supposed to roll you've got to make them pay. Yes. That's what you got to do. And I don't think the Bears did that because they had some opportunities the other night against Minnesota and Caleb Williams didn't make them pay.

But when they got their opportunities, Minnesota made them pay. And so that's what has to happen this week on the road. You're playing in a hostile environment. Yeah, they're familiar with each other. Obviously, Dan Campbell was the head coach. So he knows his tent. He knows Ben Johns and Tendencies. Now, the thing is the de-coordinator.

Now, I don't know. he might have been brought up because obviously AG is the head coach of the jet. Yeah. But they kind of know, they kind of know what, what, what being likes to run. Because guess what? In training camp, you script. Okay, I want to see, I want to see this defense against this formation. Hmm.

I want to see, I want to see this formation against this defense. Yeah. Excuse me. So you sit plays up. You're familiar with each other, even though the DC wasn't in the DC role when Ben was there. So, but I, you know, look, Caleb is on the clock. Caleb has to play better. Now, because guess what?

They're not going to blame Ben Johnson. No, it's going to the quarterback. And listen, there was a graphic. I'm not sure what the graphic was, but in their first two seasons, well, and then you look at the numbers in comparison when Mitch Rubiksy was there and Caleb Williams, a numbers look very similar. They look very similar. They do?

They look very similar. So I'm excited for that. game, I think the winner in this game is whichever team could get the other to be one dimensional. The bear's got to be able to run the ball to be able to execute what they want to do offensively. And the same thing goes for the Lions. The Lions in their first game, they weren't really able to establish run like they normally would with Montgomery and Gibbs.

So this is the game where they need to establish run so it can open up their offense. So their offer the play call that can be able to do more and open up the playbook. Yeah. You're right. I mean, both teams, because Green Bay did a great job of shutting down the run and then guess what? Putting pressure on Jerry golf. Yeah. That's what the bear is going to try to do. Bear is going to try to put pressure on golf because he's not mobile. And he's not a guy that really makes plays outside of the pocket. He makes plays on script. Great play call. He can execute it.

But now when you got to get us script, rolling out of the pocket, throwing on the move, that's not what he's, that's not what he's good at. No. And so the bear's going to try to make him uncomfortable. Dennis Allen has done a great job. He's one of the better defensive coordinators in this league. And so we're going to find out somebody's going to O&2. Yeah, yeah, no matter what. Nobody's going to O&2. Just like Saturday, just like Saturday, both fighters,

Canella and Boar got a zero. Somebody going to have an L. We don't know who, but who's ever. Well, Canela already got one lost. Remember he lost a lot. I mean, oh, okay, my bad, man. He has two, actually. He lost it.

They're Mayweb and Boval. Okay, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I just drew a blank trying to, trying to do the comparison with these two teams. But we're going to find out. Caleb just got to make the plays. But I think the biggest thing for Caleb is that is he going to be a guy that to make plays from the pocket.

Yeah. And he seems to like he's better outside of the pocket, making plays on the move. Yeah. And it's hard to win a championship. like that most guys look that's auxiliary your meat and potatoes need to be throwing the ball from the pocket right he can do both

though huh he can do he can do both we're going to find out we're going to find out hey this is Matt Jones I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL cover zero we're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different

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