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Episode Date: March 8, 2026Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Charles Olivera beating Max Holloway to win the BMF title, Caio Borralho won every round against Reinier de Ridder, and Men’s Ban...tamweight Raul Rosas defeated Rob Font by unanimous decision and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 02:20 - Olivera defeats Holloway21:19 - Borralho defeated de Ridder22:40 - Rosas Jr defeats Font27:08 - UFC 326 card30:30 - Garbrandt defeats Long35:18 - Ravens acquire Maxx Crosby (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Charles Olivera defeated Max Holloway be a unanimous decision.
The rematch was not the bond burner that many people expected.
It was a decade.
Olavera got hurt in the first fight, I think it was 2015, 2016.
But Olavera went from losing a lightweight title
to winning the BMF title the following year.
Olavera entered the fight as the underdog
then landed takedowns at Will, the crowd,
which has signed up for blood.
Both of these guys got dynamite in their hand
and both of them, when you...
I'm looking at the BMF on Joe.
I understand the objective is to win.
But when you say you're the badest mofo on a pen,
you're not letting them hands go.
That's not what we got tonight.
It started booing.
Olivera didn't change the course.
Every time Holloway get a couple of punches on him,
he'd get close.
He couldn't stop to take down.
Olivera take him down and basically stayed in the mounted,
the guard or the side guard for the remainder of the round.
And it was a unanimous decision.
It was a boring fight.
That's not what I expected.
I expected to see these things let go.
Yes.
And both landed a couple of punches,
but clearly Charles Olivera had enough.
He said, look, I'm coming to win.
the fight. Damn what y'all expect. I can sure you, Dana White is not happy. Before I let you go,
Ocho, thank you, Dana White. Thank you, UFC for getting us the tickets to come to the nice fight.
We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Can't thank you enough. Go ahead, Ocho.
Obviously, listen, I was expecting a really good fight. I heard Cormier say the fans that were booing,
they were casuals. How could you not appreciate the dominance that Olivera showed, obviously,
on the ground and grappling, being that's what he's best at.
If not the best, one of the best in UFC right now at the ground game,
you have two different fighting styles.
You have two fighters.
One is really good at fighting and grappling on the ground.
You have one that's a phenomenal striker,
one of the better strikers in the UFC and Max Holloway.
And he refused to give Max in any type of leverage,
any type of room to do just that.
I thought Max would have had a better game plan seeing at the round one,
okay, he's not going to allow me to strike.
I'm going to have to be on the move every time.
I'm going to have to be on my bicycle, not going straight back,
but unleashing max is a volume puncher.
Get a few punches out, either swing to the right or swing to the left.
But every time he comes straight back, all he does is he stayed close,
Olivera stayed close.
He would throw a kick and get him to react and then go low
and take him down to the ground and shoot him down to the ground.
Oh, he did it five rounds straight.
Five rounds straight.
Five rounds straight.
almost like every round.
God damn Max Holloway was on his back.
He was three minutes of the goddamn round.
And he couldn't get him off.
He had no answer to get him off.
He started the full guard,
then he went to the side guard.
It really didn't matter.
I think the thing is,
it's just like a lot of people thought that the BMF.
And you see when Holloway and guys,
they throw,
when Mosvedal had the belt,
throw hands.
That's what people were expected.
I understand.
Look, we understand the situation
where you're not the bad,
that belt means something.
It's a little different.
It's like we're in a three-point competition.
We're like, okay, the first to 20,
and we're supposed to be shooting threes
and you shoot layup.
I get it, you won the game,
but damn, that's not what the fans came to see.
That's not what the fans came to see.
Also, Unkey, but you have to understand,
as a fighter, what do I do best?
That's how I have to win.
That's like, that one guy-
I'm neutral- I would do best
while neutralizing what you do best.
Bingo.
And listen, he had a great game plan going into it.
I'm not going.
I cannot throw with you.
I cannot sit in the pocket.
I cannot sit at range and go blow for blow with Max.
That is his strength.
That's what he does extremely well.
What does he not do well?
Ground game.
I know I win there.
And Oliveris, obviously the bigger man.
He was huge.
He was huge.
It was much bigger than tonight.
I would have liked to see Max.
I know he wants to stand there.
He wants to show that he can sit there and exchange punches and then throwing volume.
But he needed a different game plan tonight,
especially after round one,
seeing what Olivera wanted to do as far as just taking them down
and swothering most of the punches.
And, I mean, listen, I'm sure those that are enthusiasts,
you know, they appreciate the fight and the dominance from Olivera
for those that were looking for a knockout
and wanted to see, you know, a war, you know?
Yeah, I think that's what they won.
And I think the mistake that Max Holloway made,
he fell into the trap that you know,
what Oliver is going to come through hands.
The BMS, we're the baddest, we're the baddest
mofos on the planet.
We're going to, hey, it ain't going to be no,
it's not going to go to the cards.
I don't want it to go to the cards.
Right, right.
I will let, we decide it.
Right.
And the thing is, I'm not so sure that he
practiced defending the takedown.
Right. Because it looked like he had no answer.
Now, he tried, like, rounds four
and rounds three and four,
he tried it for as long as he could.
But Olivera still,
boom.
Gotta be, hey, and he couldn't.
And now that's the thing.
Once they found out you can't start to take and you can't snuff out the takedown,
what are he going to do?
And you can't get him up?
Yeah, get on top of you.
And you can't get him up.
You can't get off the ground for four minutes.
And I mean, each round was like three and a half, four minutes.
Just ride, just ride, ride, ride, ride.
I'm like, damn.
And the funny thing.
And the lady sitting next to him was like, oh, get off him.
I'm like, ma'am, I don't think that's going to happen unless he can get him up off
And the funny thing about it, you have to understand.
Also, when someone's on top of you, you know, for that long,
you know how much energy you're exerting trying to get them up off you.
Yes.
And not only that, Chris Olivera beat Max Holloway at his game.
When they were standing up for the few times they did exchange,
hell, he landed 79% of his punches, his strikes leading up into the goddamn fourth round.
So he dominated not only standing up, striking,
but he dominated him on the ground too.
So Max really had no answer.
I would have hoped for a different game plan.
I'm sure it's going to be a trilogy.
I'm sure they got to fight.
They got to fight again.
Right.
You know?
But Danny goes to look here, man.
I ain't paying y'all no money to come down there and lay on the ground.
Hey, I come to see.
I come to turn the light out of the building.
That's why you get the prize.
You get fighter tonight and you get knockout tonight and they get $25,000.
Because that's what the fans want to see.
Man, hey, they will be.
Who your ass, hey, look, you could,
hey, you could give them three, two rounds.
Right.
Non-stop action, Ocho.
Yeah.
But I tell you what, get your ass in the clench.
It don't do nothing for like 10 seconds, 15 seconds.
Yeah.
Boo, boo.
I was like, well, damn.
Yeah.
They just gave you 10.
They just gave you 10 and a half minutes of non-stop action.
Yeah.
But those fans want to see blood.
They want to see knockouts.
They want to see somebody looking up at T-Mobile.
Somebody looking up at UFC.
That's what they want to, I'm just telling you.
Right.
I've been, I'm not going to say I'm Joe Rogan or Daniel Cromay,
but I've been to enough of those fights.
Right.
I know what the fans want to see.
And they want to see blood.
And what was that movie with Daniel Day Lewis?
There will be blood.
There will be blood.
That's what those fans want to see.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Um, but I thought, oh, look, Oliverer, they looked good.
I mean, I thought, I thought it was a, um,
I'm trying to think the guy got knocked out.
The brother got knocked out.
I was like, damn, bro.
Michael Johnson.
Yeah, Ocho.
He got, he got the fate with the right.
Mm-hmm.
That left came out of nowhere.
Boom.
Yep, I mean, listen, he did.
And, Roger Regan, hey.
Michael Johnson was doing really well up until that point, too.
He was.
No, he fell up at that point.
The Falcons was doing really well.
They were up 283.
They were doing really well until they worked.
Right.
And that's, and that is the thing about a fight.
You can be doing really well.
You can be leading round one, round five, round 10.
Yeah.
And then somebody throws a shot that you don't see.
Isn't.
And it's over.
You know what, at that level on,
when it comes to the lead,
when it comes to the best of the best,
obviously in the UFC and boxing as well,
everybody has a puncher chance.
Yes.
Everybody has a punching chance.
Them light ass gloves?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
You damn near, oh Joe, you damn near bare a knuckle, to be honest.
Yeah.
They're only four-hounds gloves.
Basically, yep.
So basically, you got an isotone on your hand.
That's basically, and so when you hear something like I said,
made a hit a boy in the jaw.
Yeah.
Just like the dude, that was one punch.
Rodriguez went straight down the pipe.
Bhop.
He was done.
Dude, hey, do switch to South Paul,
and as soon as we switched to side paw,
shock up.
It was a rap.
It was a rap.
And he was looking at he ain't even hit him again on Joe.
He could have.
Because you see a lot of times they hit him and they come with a big boom.
He's like, no, I'm good.
I'm going to let you live.
See another day.
But just know, I had something for you.
Yeah.
Hey, I mean, that's messed up.
And you got to be careful too.
All that switch switching stances, when you do that, if you're comfortable at one stance,
you know we're vulnerable.
If you're going to switch to South Paul
or you're doing unorthodox,
you've got to know where your weaknesses are.
And obviously switching like that, I know it's cool to be able to do it,
but you don't understand.
You had a disadvantage in certain areas.
And the thing is, if you're not used to,
first of all, there are very few men that by Orthodox
can jump into a South Paul stand.
You're not Bud Crawford.
Yeah.
They're very few.
Stand your orthodox and make that work.
So what you did, you left you made yourself vulnerable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm like, bro.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
But I was, I am not going to lie, Ocho, considering.
Because even the fight before that, that was action.
I mean, nobody got knocked out and got submitted, but there was action.
Yeah, they were going.
And I was like, oh, man, Olivera, Holloway.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
somebody.
Hey, you thought you're going to get something nice, huh?
Fireworks.
Hey, the doctor's coming in the ring and somebody going to put
ice on somebody back.
You're all right.
You know, you know where you are.
They're going to be asking a bunch of questions.
That's what I was expecting in the Holloway-Olovera fight.
Yeah.
We didn't get that.
No.
Congratulations, Olivera.
He won the fight.
I'm not, look,
when you go back, if you study fighting,
most great fighters came from very impoverished conditions.
You look at those Brazilian.
Yes. They come from the Fribella.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
You look at a guy like Connor McGregor, he's from the streets to get,
Ireland. You look at the Russians.
They ain't get no college scholarship.
They got a fight. And so when you come up having to fight,
you know how to fight.
Yes, sir.
I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but for the most part,
when you look at fighters, boxers, UFC, whatever the case may be,
look at their background.
Yeah.
I guarantee you, they ain't come from no silver spoon.
You know what's funny, huh?
And it's not just UFC.
You think about football.
Everyone has a story.
Everyone has the background.
Yes.
Most of them, depending on high percentage,
soccer players, you know?
I mean, basketball.
You know, that's our ticket out.
That is our way out.
Yeah.
Ain't too many.
Two car, three, car, four car, car, garage.
He was in the fight?
Yeah.
Very small.
No, no, no, no.
You ain't getting in that sport.
That ain't, that ain't no sport.
If you had a nice, cushy life.
Yeah.
That you get into.
Right.
Unless you just got the love fighting.
I don't love it that much.
Not with no four car garage.
I'm going up.
I don't love it that much.
A three car.
Hell, a single car garage.
Mm-hmm.
Somebody, hey, a garage.
Yeah.
Parked that damn car, I put it in a shade tree.
Yeah.
Get out walking a house.
There wasn't a garage.
Hey, you knew you ever been to Brazil?
You ever been to the,
Pabellas, you folks?
I have not been to the Pavellas.
Man.
It's...
I've seen, you know, obviously seen documentaries of it and see how it was.
And they tell the story how Michael Jackson wanted a film.
They don't really know about it.
They don't really care about us.
Yeah.
I think that was the name of the song.
Yeah.
And the government wouldn't, you couldn't get clearance.
He had to get permission.
He had to get permission from...
The Pavellas.
They come, we got it.
we got it.
Yeah.
Ain't nobody,
hey,
nobody was the safest man.
He was the safest man in Brazil.
Oh yeah.
Absolutely.
But like I said,
you look at you look at Kabidnam,
you look at the Dagestanian from Russia and you look at these,
hey, bro,
when you got a,
you got an empty stomach,
an empty back pocket and a broken heart,
you fight your ass off.
Yeah.
You fight your ass off.
But like I said,
I know I would have expected.
Oliver put on the clinic.
Oh, Joe, I know you want to see us throw for 500 yards,
but they can't stop to run.
Right.
There you go.
That's what I can tell them all the time.
Bro, I promise you, if y'all stop TD, we'll throw the ball.
Mm-hmm.
But if you don't stop TD, he's getting five, six, seven yards of care.
What's the incentive that we have to throw it?
Throw it.
When you can't stop, we can just turn around and hand it to him,
and he's getting 15, 20 yards of clip.
Yep.
So what's the incentive for us to drop back to throw it,
where your ball might get tilt,
somebody might miss a protection
and get John hit in the back of the head.
Now also tonight,
for those that are watching,
those that wanted to see fireworks,
the only way we would have gotten fireworks
if Max Holloway had a counter
for being taken down.
If you were able to stop being taken down,
then we can make it a fight
where we've got to stand up.
Now we got to throw,
but he had no answer for it.
Well, the thing is,
he's got to be able to,
snuff the takedown. Once he couldn't snuff that. So what was his counter?
He couldn't get, he couldn't get off the guy. He couldn't get off the back.
No. Was that, once, once Olivera got him on the mat. Yeah. He could not get up for the rest of the
fight. So if he took him down with three and a half minutes, he took him down with four minutes.
The fight stayed on the mat for the final three and a half four minutes. The whole time.
Yeah. Um, I'm sure that's not how he wanted it to end. I can assure you probably Max Holloway
would probably prefer to be knocked out
than to have it in like this.
Like this?
Probably so.
Either that or submitted.
But hell.
Yeah.
I thought he tried.
He tried.
I thought he had it in the first.
He couldn't get it deep enough.
Yeah, his defense was very good.
His defense on the ground was very good.
You know, he took a few shots on the ground,
but as far as being, you know, being able to maneuver
and using his hands really well to make sure he wasn't submitted,
he was, I mean, let's see, he did it really well.
And it's one for us to be saying what we wanted to see,
but actually being in there and having a fight
is two different things.
It's two different things, you know, when you're under fire.
So us saying this is what you should have done, you know, but...
Yes.
I mean...
It seems us to say because we ain't in there.
Because we...
Ocho, what do fans say when they lose a game?
You should have been running it.
You should have blitz.
You should have did this.
It's easy to say that after the fight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Give, uh, give Oliver's credit.
He, uh, the BMF.
Um, and so it's going to be interested to see what's next on his card.
I was just getting me to ask you that.
What's next?
So he's in the 155.
So that's what?
Lightweight.
What about, what about, what does, uh, Ilya fight at?
To pour.
Elia might be 155.
That'd be a good one.
No, hey, now he definitely got dynamite in his hands.
He definitely got down to mind his hands.
Yeah, that'd be a good one.
Long as he got, I mean, I'm sure I'm sure I don't know much about
Ilya's style and what he does.
I mean, is he good at, is he good at the ground game?
I know he can strike.
I ain't never seen him.
I think didn't I'll knock, hold on.
So somebody knocked Olivera out.
Who knocked him out?
Somebody knocked him out.
Was it Volko?
No, Ilya, Elia can fight.
He let them hands go.
I was hope,
you know what I was hoping for a guy?
I was hoping for a chat, don't you?
I was hoping for, you know,
Max Holloway and Oliverer,
because he said, if you call me to,
Olivera said,
if you call me to call me to go let these hands fly.
So I was hoping.
Well, hold on.
He called him to the center
with 20 seconds of going the goddamn fight.
He let him,
he let him get up,
obviously, when they got off the ground,
and he caught him, he caught him again.
Okay.
Oliverer caught him again.
Yeah, yeah.
Elya knocked out Olivera.
Oh, say they fought already.
Okay, okay.
I know somebody had knocked him out.
I mean, he, ooh, he got hands.
No, he really, really, really, really got hands.
Oh, yeah.
But I'm trying to think who is the fight that people want to see.
I mean, they introduced the card that's going to be at the White House that's going to fight.
Yeah, I saw that.
I don't know what it's called.
America 250 is to celebrate the animal.
of a, I'm not sure, I'm not sure what they're going to call this card.
I know it's the celebration of the America birthday of 250 years.
But it's going to be, it's going to be, you know, Gagian to Pore, fight.
That's the main event, right?
That's the main event.
Piazza and Sierra Gond fight.
So they got a nice card.
I was hoping to see John Jones on there.
Is it too late? It's too late. They don't set the card now.
Damn. They got it. They don't set the card. I think the thing is the plus,
the last thing you want to have happened is something, you know, they set Johnny and then Johnny
F the card up. Right, right.
I think Dana, I think Dana's like, you know what, let's go with the sure thing.
Yes, sir.
We know these guys are going to be where they're supposed to be and do it.
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Cairo Boehop, uh, Bollah.
Uh, won every round when he fought, uh, De Ritter tonight.
Now he wants DePlessy.
DePlessy, yo, he did call DePlesi out.
I couldn't understand.
I couldn't understand.
He thought, hey, a dude throw hard too, man.
He was bad.
That joke was throwing.
I was like, damn.
I mean, he was at me, every punch he throws.
He throws with the intent of knocking somebody out.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Every, I'd be like, every last one of them.
And he's like, he's a big dude because, uh, as we were leaving, he was in the hallway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, I mean, I understand he may wait at what, 185 and I eight, 186, but after refuel,
right, probably one 95 close to two.
Easy.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I, I mean, you look.
I think the thing is we kind of get spoiled because there's something about a knockout.
It's like boxing.
Now, if you go, if you give me, if you give me 10 rounds, 12 rounds of nonstop action,
action, yeah.
I can live with that.
Right.
But man, that's that.
Mm-hmm.
Don't punch is clenching and boxing.
Yeah, all that.
Yeah.
You clinch again and nah.
The man's battle weight.
Raw.
Rojas Jr. defeated Rob Font by unanimous decision.
The 21-year-old Rojas.
was dominant recording 60 takedown on his way to the biggest victory in his young career.
The matchup was a big step up in competition for the youngest fighter in the UFC has ever signed.
He's likely to be ranked, comeback Monday, and took another positive step toward his goal of breaking John Jones's record as the youngest champion in UFC history.
If I'm not mistaken, I think John was what, 21?
He looked good.
He looked good.
I mean, he just, like, bro.
I mean, he, but, but, but.
Rojas was big.
That man, tall at hell.
Yeah, very tall.
Hell, yeah.
He's a big-ass, a lightweight, a battle weight.
Damn.
I mean, he's tall, loch, pro font.
I was like, damn.
Oh, John Jones was 23 years, 243 days old.
But, hey, John is the truth, man.
Man, man.
He's the truth.
I would, I would love that.
That would have been,
been the White House card is already
stacked. It's already nice. Everybody's
just having John Jones a part of that
White House card, I think it would have
been special. But here's
the thing. Who was going to fight?
He wanted to fight Pieta
who's fighting
zero gone. Right.
I think the thing that they
wanted to have happened at an earlier
time was him fighting
what's the
what's the
guy that got her end up, he got an
got his eye giles job and I forget his name.
But that's the guy they wanted.
That's what that's, that's the fight that Dana wanted him half.
Oh, Tom Aspinall.
Tom Aspenall.
That's the fight that, you know.
But then when you look at it and you look at how he was fighting against
and John Joe's like, is that the guy that y'all thought could beat me?
Did y'all see how I ran through him?
Yeah.
And y'all thought that guy could beat me.
Um, Piazza, I mean, bro, a three division champ, something they've never had, but he'll, he big, man, dog.
I mean, he, I mean.
What, what's his name?
What's your name?
What's your name?
What, two something?
Well, I mean, 185, 205, and you can't be more than 265 as a heavyweight.
Okay.
So, I mean, for him to, uh, to get down to 185, he was killing himself to get down to 185.
because he's a big man.
He's a big man.
Would I be surprised that he walked around at 220?
Nope, I wouldn't.
I would not be surprised if he walked around at 220.
It's going to be in the rest of the fight.
God is getting better.
He's getting better.
Yeah.
You going to the White House card?
Man, you know, everything will be so damn expensive in DC, Ocho.
But hold on.
Wait a minute, man.
Not for you.
You just went to the fight tonight.
The fight at the hotel
The whole
The flight at the flights
I mean a flight to D.C.
That ain't nothing but but but you can get a flight
For like a hundred fifty dollars
Okay I don't know
They didn't get your ticket
So boom
That that knocks everything out
Them hotels man them hotels man
They wreck you over the colds
You never try to extend the stay
You ever been there before?
Mm-mm
Yeah extend the same got kitchen
refrigerator microwave
I want my kitchen.
I want my kitchen to be,
I want my kitchen to be downstairs
and to bring it up to my room.
That's what I want,
that's why I want my kitchen.
I'm just trying to get you places that's very,
that's inexpensive, you know,
quick,
or maybe an Airbnb.
You probably,
you get off cheaper with that.
No,
I don't want to be,
I don't want to sleep in nobody else's house.
I don't.
I don't.
Oh, oh yeah, lightweight drew Dover,
defeated Michael Johnson via KO punch, 153 a round two.
Gregory Rodriguez, defeated Bruno Fiatta, be a knockout,
one punch, 147, round one.
See, I would, I just think the thing is like,
the UFC has gotten people spoiled so much
because you know dynamite, good things normally happen,
Ocho.
Somebody normally goes to sleep.
Somebody get choked out, you know,
rear-necked, gear team,
arm bar, try something, submit, something happens that you like, damn, that must have been pretty
bad. You made somebody tap out, made somebody call you uncle, because I want to tap out of it. Say,
uncle, call me uncle. Yeah. And I'll let you go.
But also, you know what else people have to remember to? When it comes, better fighters,
when it comes to the fighters that are a little bit more skilled, a little bit more technical,
you know, the margin for error is very small. Yes. You can get slept or you can get submitted
so that most of the time
they're very careful on when they take their chances
and that they're safe.
I mean, tonight you saw it,
but in the last fight,
you know what?
I'm going to play it safe.
I'm going to do what he doesn't do well.
I'm going to take the ground,
and that's how I'm going to win the fight.
Whether people boo or not,
that was Oliver's plan.
Yes, that was.
And you want me to change it?
Make me change it.
But why change it when it's working?
But like I said,
He came to win.
I know what the BMF stand for.
You slug it out and guys that have held that belt.
They slugged it out and knocked somebody out.
That was not Charles Olivera's plan.
His plan was to take as little punishment as possible,
take it to the mat.
And knowing Holloway, that's not what Holloway is good at,
getting off his back and getting back to the center of the ring.
That wasn't what he was good at.
And it showed a night.
He was shut out.
I wouldn't have had him winning one round.
No.
Not one.
He got dominated for five rounds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I was like, and even the last round, he ended up getting guard,
and somehow what you call him, ended up taking it right back.
Yeah.
Even when they got back up, they got back up.
He took him, Oliver took him right back down.
Yeah.
Probably the most interesting fight of the preliminary card with Kobe Gabbhart
against Zhao Young, be a unanimous decision.
Guy Hart, he several low blows here in round three.
The second one literally vomited in a bucket
before the point was deducted from his opponent.
Zalong lost another point
when he landed the knee in the clench
below the belt soon after.
I mean,
but he was killing that man, man.
Man, wow!
And the thing you all sort of reacting on his face on show,
he's like, yeah, you did that, bro.
I'm sorry, you got it.
You got it.
You got it.
I'm talking about one of them,
he got to be more.
I'm talking about, you know,
normally they try to kick with the side
because you don't want to break a toe,
oh my goodness.
Yeah.
You know, they give you,
they give you five minutes.
And obviously you don't want to take that kind of
because people are like,
oh, you ain't take that long,
it didn't hurt that bad.
You ain't never been hit there.
Yeah.
If you have never been hitting your private.
Yeah.
Oh, it hurt.
It hurt now.
Let a kick.
What?
Man, stop playing.
It hurt.
Yeah, you feel like you look.
I can't.
You can breathe.
Somebody got a bag over your head.
And every time you try to take a breath,
they're doing another bag over your head.
Bad, that thing hurt so bad?
Yeah, it does.
But we have fun.
I have fun.
I had fun tonight.
Got an opportunity.
I was in the lounge.
I got there too early.
We got there too early.
I got to do a better job timing it.
You was there for a long time before the fights even started, huh?
No, no, no, no.
I got, I thought I was.
thought we'd getting, I was like, okay, we get there.
No, next time, I ain't leaving my
house till about seven.
Mm.
I want to see last, I don't see like last four fights.
That's it.
So you were, I mean, you was early like we was for the bud,
the bud and, uh, Canelo fight.
Yeah.
Not quite that early.
Not quite that early.
Yeah, we were, well, we were early that boy.
Yeah, man.
Never again, never no more.
As a matter of fact,
they might be, hey, I might be robin a,
bud might need them walk into the ring
and then you walk in. I'm going to be walking in
where they walk into the ring.
Oh, Joe, what did you do tonight?
Oh, man, well, you know, I'm back in Houston again.
What?
Man, I'm back in Houston again, man.
Listen, a certain individual, I don't want to say the names.
Chat, y'all stay with me real quick.
A certain individual called me, you know,
not panicking, but hoping I could do them a favor.
Okay.
So I say, well, cool.
I can do your favor.
So I asked what you need me to do?
He said, I need you to be an efficient to my wedding.
Did I say that right?
An official?
Efficient tent.
Efficient to my wedding.
I don't know what an efficient is.
Oficient.
Okay, there it is.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that, okay.
An officiant.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Yeah, so you're going to officiate the wedding.
Yeah, I was officiating the wedding.
So I said, of course I'll come down.
Just give me a flight, give me a room, and I'll be an efficient for your wedding.
I flew to Houston.
I landed today.
This was short notice.
Now, he hit me two days ago.
Right.
Boom.
One day goes back, I fly in a day.
I had a flight 9 o'clock this morning.
I landed when it got fitted for a tuxedo.
Had them size everything, you know, together, and whatever, whatever.
Boom.
I missed rehearsal on Friday.
So I had my script.
I had to memorize as much as I could.
Got it there,
Unk, you know?
And by the power's
invested in me, I
now announce you, you know, you may
kiss, you know,
Blige de Squazzay, and I did my first
wedding. So now
that people in the chat,
you're now open. As you can see
right there, chat, I'm
licensed. I'm an ordained
minister, and
I'm a brother of the clock.
as I like to call it.
I'm a brother of a cloth now.
So anybody, you know anybody getting married
and you need me to officinate your wedding?
Officiate.
Officiate?
Yes, the actual process of,
is a, you officiated.
Right, okay, officiate.
There it is.
But listen, anybody, anybody's looking for someone
to officiate their wedding,
their nuptials or whatever.
You want to renew your vows?
I can do that as well.
Also, I extend my services also for divorces as well.
You know, so I'm here.
You know how to reach me.
I'll have a link in my bio by tomorrow.
And, yeah, I'm excited.
Didn't they have, isn't the rodeo going on in Houston?
Yeah, yeah, rodeo going on.
Yeah, rodeo going on in now with you all?
Well, it's storming raining.
It's storming raining.
I ain't go there.
It's raining?
Yeah, it was raining bad.
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, rodeo and rain don't go together much.
No, that mud, yeah, yeah.
It was raining bad.
But, hey, I don't, hey,
but I can imagine,
they had some boots on, boosting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure they're out there.
I'm sure they're out there.
I'm sure they're out there.
Yeah, but I said, my baby with me,
so I wouldn't pay, I wouldn't pay no mind.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't blame you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, hey, right here, ton of vision, huh?
Yeah.
You know, like a horse in the Kentucky Derby.
I have my bladder.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I only see one way, straight ahead.
That's it.
That's all you do.
You know, that's thing.
Where's your eyes going, boy.
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The Ravens acquired Max Crosby from the Raiders in exchange for two first round picks, one in 2026, the other 14th pick in 2026, and a first round pick in 2026.
Crosby, 28, a five-time pro bowler will be a game changer for the Ravens.
He has 69.5 sacks since 2019 is more than double that anyone is produced for Baltimore over that span.
Namde Madabweek leads the Ravens with 30 sacks since 2019.
Ocho, do you believe this makes the Ravens contenders?
You know what?
I want to look back to, I don't have the stats in front.
me.
When it comes to the Baltimore Ravens defense, since Lamar has gotten there, they've had some
very good defenses.
They've had some very good defenses.
They've been normally ranked high with the addition of Matt Crosby.
He does improve them defensively.
Yes, he does.
Does it make them contenders?
I can't say because I think the onus in them being contenders is really based on what Lamar
Jackson does in the postseason.
I think because they've had great
defenses before, and offensively,
they sputtered when it mattered most, you know,
as it's collectively.
Yes.
Sometimes.
Don't mention that.
Let's not talk about that.
Let's focus on the defense.
Okay.
I want the chat jumping in there,
talk about we jumping over this right here.
Let's talk about the defense.
Right.
Crosby.
A lot of teams were stepping up.
You know, you hear first, some teams were off in the first and a second,
maybe a first or second,
and another pick, maybe the first this year and the second and a later round pick,
but it was the Ravens.
And the thing is, like, hold on.
We saw Micah went for two first rounders and a player.
Yes.
How do you want it, but don't you?
Yeah, but Micah's a little bit younger now.
Not a little bit, maybe a lot, a lot bit.
26 to 28.
Okay.
I mean, hey, that means a lot, especially when to come to business,
especially when to come to picks, especially when it comes to money.
Oh, you know how to own this thing.
Yes.
I do.
For us, oh, what's two years?
But to them, it's a lot.
Because they think about Miles, wear and tear, all this stuff.
But Max Crosby brings something that the Ravens need very badly.
I like him.
Especially on the defense at the end of the ball.
And now I feel bad for my quarterback.
Because my quarterback, he has to deal with, hold on that.
Twice a year, you've got to deal with Miles Garrett.
Twice a year, he has to deal with T.J.
J. Watt. Now you bring this animal, one of the better defensive players in the NFL,
one of the better defensive ends in the NFL to the goddamn Ravens. Now you got to deal with,
like, come on, man. Come on, man. I think the thing that I like so much about Max Crosby,
that he's a two-way player. He plays the run and he plays the pass. Yes. He kind of reminds me,
he doesn't rush the quarterback like this guy does, but I think he played the run better.
than this guy's done.
Right.
Jared Allen.
Remember Jared Allen?
Started with Kansas City and then he goes to Minnesota.
Minnesota?
Mr.
Calf rope him.
I don't know every sack.
It kind of reminds me of him.
Right.
But he plays the run.
Very well.
Better than Allen.
But he can't get out to the quarterback.
Allen was people don't,
Allen could just flat out of your quarterback.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm excited.
I'm excited for Ravens.
This is going to be good for them.
So, I don't know what you guys are doing.
Help me understand you guys.
Okay, you had Trey Hendris.
Somebody said, you know what?
They tried to make a trade for him last year.
You hold on to him.
Now you let him go for a day and say you get nothing.
Nothing for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What sense does that make, Ocho?
If you know, if you know you're not going to sign it back, Ocho, you got to let him go.
Right.
I've got to trade you and get something for you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
while there's value there.
Yes.
You let the man walk.
You let the man walk and his value wasn't going to get any higher.
He's coming off back to back 17 sacks and 17 and a half sacks season.
Back to back.
Back to back.
He's all pro.
So his value is not going to get any higher.
You know you're not about to get this man three, four years at $100 plus million.
That's not what you guys do, especially at the age of 30, 31.
That's not what you do, Cincinnati.
But you let it walk out the door and now you get,
nothing for it. Yeah. That's crazy. That's great. I don't understand. I've been and I don't want to
rush the judgment just yet. Draft is coming. All season acquisitions, you know, trades still are going
to be made. So I'm curious to see what moves. That ain't what y'all do, Ocho. Y'all, what the last
time the Bengals trades. Hey, um, listen, hey, number nine put that pressure on. I, it's not about
what we've never done. It's about what we need to do because number nine already sent that message.
is out loud and clear last year.
Loud, loud and clear.
I know, but I tell you what,
you know the Brown,
Katie Blackburn as well as anybody.
They do what the hell they want to do.
They do. They do.
But they never had is they never had a quarterback
that's this young who comes from winning
everywhere he's been.
He's done one thing and he's won.
And he wants to be sure that winning is,
the same exact thing that they want to do in Cincinnati.
No, they want to make money.
You need to continue to make certain moves that,
that aligns exactly with what Joe Burrow believes in.
The Bengals want to make money.
Yeah.
I think, I think, look, let me ask, my thing is, if I can make money by spending
as little as possible, I choose that.
Yeah.
You got to spend money to be competitive.
Yeah, you do.
You just do.
You do.
Because guess what?
The other teams around you are spending money.
And it's already hard to get people, you've got to pay.
To get someone to come to you in free agency, you've got to overpay.
Because to get them to leave that situation that they're currently in where they've built up,
they've probably ingratiated themselves in the community.
The wife is probably there.
The kids are there.
So things are, you know, you're already ingratiated yourself in that surrounding.
So to get me to leave that and to uproot my family, you're going to have to pay a premium.
And if for agency, everybody knows you're going to have to overpay.
You just do.
That's why, why you think a beer costs $40 at a damn game?
Where else you're going to get it from?
You can't run to the local cornerstone or the package shopping get it.
Yeah, you're right.
You want a beer to watch the game.
Okay.
We'll pay $40.
Damn.
So in free agency, these guys know, well, if you want me to come, you got to pay.
Because guess what?
If you don't, right down the rural wheel.
Yeah, absolutely.
We need hell bad though, aren't.
You do.
Over the last five years, Ocho Baltimore has blown an NFL worse, 16 leads in the final five minutes of game.
That's five more than any other team last season.
the Ravens failed to hold two double-digit leads in the fourth quarter.
Remember, Buffalo and New England?
Yes.
Now, one, look, that one against New England when Derek Henry's running the football
and all of a sudden, you know, we got a system in place.
You know, Derek, it was the other.
They took him out.
Stop handing the ball all to him.
I don't know what that was about.
Still don't make any sense to me.
makes no sense to me at all.
But hey, what do we know, Ocho?
What do we know?
And then lo and behold, they go out there
and then they play Green Bay.
And they just hand the ball to him
and he just run wild.
Went crazy.
The second leading rusher.
Think about this.
The second leading Russia.
Wow.
When you try to, that's what you do, Ocho.
You go double tight.
And you say, guess what?
In the four minute drill,
not getting the ball back.
All right,
this is why we got you.
And you go put a scat back in there
and you got a 250 pounds
to a bulldozer?
Yeah.
That nobody, hold on,
a 250 pound bulldozer
that nobody wants to tackle.
No.
Once he gets those pads going north,
man, it's hell to deal with.
Don't nobody want none of that.
It's, uh,
I don't get it.
Like I said,
everything is not for me to get chatted.
And I'm sure,
but I think the thing is chat.
I don't think you guys,
got it either. I don't want to hear nothing because I'm trying to win a game.
Right.
Sometimes when you're trying to win a game, you're like, okay, I know how it's supposed to go.
I know if you're supposed to be your time up, but your time will come next week, but it ain't
going to come now.
Right.
Because Derek Henry is going to get this ball.
That's who's going to get the ball.
And that's what, that's why, that's why we tore his contract up and gave him more coming
off the first season that he had here.
He had over 1,900 yards.
And so, and he came back this year and almost had 1,600.
So Derek Henry had had plenty of trail.
on the tire.
I ain't worried about, look here.
I don't care if you don't play
but another year.
I'm going to run Derek Henry
and he's going to keep the clock moving.
Y'all not getting the ball back, Patriots,
and if you do get it back,
you're going to have so little time
you ain't going to be able to do itish with it.
So hopefully they don't run into that problem again.
But I like the move.
I like this move that the Ravens says,
look, they're making a commitment to Lamar.
They're going to give him big time money.
He'll be the highest paid quarterback in the NFL.
I don't think they're done.
No.
The Ravens, if you go back and study the Ravens,
they normally have success.
When they go get a player,
if you look at free agency,
now this is a trade,
so this might be peep and chat,
you might stay with me,
you might look at this a little different.
Right.
But if you go back and study them,
99, they'll get, what, 90,
I think it's 98, 99,
they'll get Michael McQuarrie and Rod Wilson.
In 2000, they go get me,
and Sam Adams.
You see you get Derek Mason, you get Anquan Bowden,
you get Steve Smith, you see the success that they have.
If the Ravens come get you,
they've done their homework and they know.
And the thing that I love that I love most about them,
be who you are.
We don't need you to come here.
We already know what we get.
Right.
Be that.
You talkish, talkish.
If you quiet, stay quiet.
All I want you to do is play hard.
That's it.
Yeah.
That's it.
And you know, everyone that they've won and gotten has had success.
Everyone they've gotten.
And listen, going to get Max, they're going to have success.
Roquan, remember they made the trade for Roe?
Yeah.
They, they, they, I said they need to impact players.
You got one at each level.
Now, obviously, Nate Wiggins, he's going to improve from last year.
I shall hope so.
He's going to improve from last year on.
I believe in him.
I like Young Bull.
He's nice.
You got Roquan and now you have an impact player on your line.
So you got, oh, I didn't even mention Kyle Hamilton.
I didn't even mention Kyle Hamilton the best, the best safety in the game right now.
So you kind of set defensively with leaders at each level.
Well, if Metabwee can come back and play at the level that we're used to seeing him play at,
and you got Crosby, I still like, hey, I'm going to boast.
I'm going to try to get me a corner.
I don't know what's going to happen with Marlon Humphrey.
I don't know if he's aligned for a restructure.
I don't know if he's aligned to like get released.
I don't know what's going to.
But they need corners.
They need corners.
And I hope you're right.
I just hope you're right that Nate Wiggins is going to get better.
Yeah.
Because all I know, there are two corners, a top five in yards allowed.
Well, hell, Unk, if you got them having a cover for 20 seconds,
shoot, me and you would be in the top five of y'allelow, too.
You know?
So they got some help.
They got some help because Max, Max, don't give, Max got a mold on him, boy.
Oh, yeah, man.
Energizer, buddy.
Oh, yeah.
But I think I, if I'm the Ravens, look, and I know, look,
I know Eric DeCost is running this, but don't think,
Ozzy still don't have a presence in that building because he does.
but when you look, they need a receiver.
I told you who.
And you better go get a right guard too.
Yeah, I told you who going there.
Who?
Steph going to end up in Baltimore.
Man.
Listen, when I, listen, we was on the show.
I don't know, a few episodes ago.
I said Max Crosby was coming to the Ravens.
Like, every time I say a player is going somewhere, it happens.
I'm going here.
And people might not like it.
AJ Brown is going to end up with the New England Patriots.
I'm telling you head of time.
I just don't, look, I like Steph, but don't show, they need more.
They don't need another possession receiver.
They need a stud.
Go get you a stud.
Hold on, all the studs are taken.
No disrespect.
All the studs are taken.
What stud can you go and get?
That's going to come in and change everything right away.
I think there's some receipts
available that'll give them more bang for their buck than
Stefan. That's all I'm saying.
Oh, you know Stefan just coming off
a thousand-yard season, huh?
No, I don't think he had quite a thousand, but...
Oh, he had a thousand, huh?
He had a thousand?
Yeah.
I just don't know, Ocho.
I just think you could do better.
Okay, okay.
I'm just thinking I'm looking at the landscape of what's available.
You said a stud.
All the studs are.
number ones.
They're not available.
Who's going to come in there and just instantly be it?
Yeah, 85 catches 1,013 yards and four touchdowns.
Yeah.
You know, over there in the wing, it's by committee.
Every week is a different receiver.
You never know who it's going to be.
Well, I think the thing is, I mean,
I think the Patriots are trying to get a first round pick for AJ.
And I don't know, I don't know if they're going to be able to get that.
They're going to probably have to get settled for a second.
What you think are?
AJ is worthy of a first round pick on.
AJ Brown and what he's going to bring to your team
and how he's going to help them offensively.
And what he can do.
He can stretch the field with need be.
He can run short routes.
He can run intermediate routes.
He's hell to deal with.
You have a great running game.
He's worth that first round pick.
That's just me.
You got to have a stud.
You can't do it what you have right now.
I think the thing is that, okay, where, who?
New England?
Because, okay, they got, so that be,
AJ would be one, and then you got Booty.
Boutte.
Is Matt Collins?
Mac Hollins.
But.
Douglas.
Douglas.
That'd be, that'd be a nice.
makes your squad, man.
How old is AJ?
Oh, that's a good question.
I'm not sure.
Because you know, Ocho, you start pushing that 30,
the price start dropping quick.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They don't play about that.
They don't, man.
Play about that.
They're like, man, like, I'm like, damn, 30?
Mm-hmm.
Guys will play.
Guys take better care of themselves now.
They're more condition.
Guys, I mean, you might have to readjust that.
You might have to look at it's like 33, 30, 30, 30.
Oh, Cho.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he's 28.
He's 28.
28.
Okay.
Well, now, he's good, did she?
Yeah, he good.
Here's Max Crosby's goodbye to the Raiders.
Ever since I've been here, man, I've had one goal and one mission.
That's become the best version of myself and help bring a championship back to the Raider organization.
And I feel like I left, you know, everything I had on the table for this team.
I've given my heart and soul
and I feel like
I let you all down, man.
Ever since day one,
I've wanted to create
and build a winner with the Raiders.
I like that.
When you think about the Las Vegas Raiders,
I mean, they are Mac Crosby.
Max Crosby is their identity.
He has been since he showed up.
He always has been.
And he said it just right.
He left it all out on the field.
He gave everything he has.
with his play.
Forget the words that he just said.
He showed it with his play,
week in and week out.
But again, it's a team game.
Yes.
So he can't do it by himself.
No.
He is the perfect raider.
He was the perfect raider.
Al would have loved him.
Oh, yeah.
He's definitely Al's type of a guy.
But they don't have anything.
Now, it's being reported that they have a hundred plus million dollars in cap space.
Oh, yeah.
And two first round picks this year.
Remember, they traded Jacobi Myers.
So I don't know what they got from Jacksonville,
what they get a third or a fourth for Jacobi Myers.
Okay, I can't remember exactly.
But they can make some good moves.
Whatever move they got to be the right moves, not just any moves.
It got to be franchise changing, altering moves.
Yeah, guys, we know Max wanted out.
It's being reported.
But everybody talking about y'all just keep trying to put word.
The man said he, what's he supposed to say?
But insiders that had spoken to Max Crosby said he said he was done.
Yeah.
But like, like, oh, he said this.
He said that what is he supposed to say when he's currently still on the roster?
The last thing I'm going to have y'all do is to try to avoid my contract or to try to get me for conduct detrimental to the team.
Of course I'm going to say all the right things.
Privately, I've let it be known.
I want to be dealt.
Yeah.
I want a chance.
I mean, it played it perfectly.
I've had a conversation with Max.
Clearly we want him here, but we want those two first round peaks for him, though.
Absolutely.
So I don't have a problem with it.
If you want to win, now they could turn the thing around quickly.
Calat, our lot is Houston, Texans.
It's not that you have those picks.
Who do you select with those picks?
Yes.
Well, if you get you a C.J. Stroud or you get you a Will Anderson Jr.,
you get you a Nico Collins.
You start drafting guys like that.
It won't take you long.
At all.
It won't take you alone.
Now, you mess around and get you a Trey Lance?
Yeah. Hey, we know where the first pick is going.
They're not trading back out of that.
They're not giving that somebody else.
It's going to be.
What does they got?
So they got one and 14.
Mendoza.
And I got the next rob.
If there's somebody that you love, Ocho.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, you got all those picks, man, lay.
Get good.
Yeah.
You need some receivers.
He going to need somebody to throw the ball to.
He'll need somebody to throw the damn ball to.
Well, you know, you know what I've said.
But.
Right.
Who I wanted to go to Vegas.
I don't want to...
Oh, Pete?
Yeah, I don't want to piss all my cowboy fans.
You know, I love y'all.
But, you know, you know, I have a question.
Hey, chat, do you see any scenario, right?
Think about this.
It could be crazy.
Could you see any scenario?
Pick going to the Raiders.
Maybe CD going to the Raiders?
Or just those.
to not being together in Dallas.
Do you see any scenario where that can happen?
No.
Chat, what do you think?
I think Jerry loved.
I think Jerry loves CD.
Right, right.
Yeah, he loved you.
He was recommended.
CD, CD wanted one number,
Di Andre Hopkins.
He wanted 10.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was a D. Hop fan.
It was Jared said,
nah, no, no, we really want you to have 88.
Right, right.
Because that what that signifies Drew Pearson
and Desryrd, Irving.
Yes.
And now you.
Yeah. I just, I just, you know how this business is.
You know how this business is. So I've been thinking about
scenarios that can happen. And most of the time, they'll pull,
they'll pull the wool over your eyes and do something strange that it might
not make sense to us, but it makes sense to them because they're thinking long term.
Yeah. Not now.
Oh, Joe, the biggest reaction of the trade came from Jamar Chase.
Let's listen to what Chase had to say.
Joe just fucking text me.
Ravens traded for Max Crosby.
No fucking shit.
No fucking shit.
No fucking shit, brother.
I'm fucking highly pissed right now.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Fucking.
How do we let this nigga go to the fucking division, bro?
Oh my God, bro.
why the fuck that we let this nigga go to the division, bro?
Oh, my God.
And in his, and Jamar Chase's reaction alone
let you know who Crosby is.
Yeah.
Respect he has some other players.
Oh, Joe, you remember we had another show at the Super Bowl?
Yeah.
And he said, Jeffrey Simmons and Max Crosby, yeah.
He said, if we get both four of one of them,
give us, let us get one.
of them. We like both of them, but if we get one of them. Yeah, it makes a difference.
I don't know if Simmons is available. I don't think so, but you never know, Ocho.
Hey. But the question is, what y'all willing to give up for it? I mean, eh, you're going to have to
give him a first-ride pick. He wanted, he's the best, he's tackling football. Yeah. I mean,
is that he? Oh, you think you about to get, what you think you might to get it? Yeah.
For a copybooking an apple? No, is that of him and Chris Jones?
Yeah.
But, you know, the Titans are building something special over there.
So I doubt he is their identity, similar to how Matt Crosby was with the Las Vegas Raiders.
The Tennessee Titan, Jeffrey Simmons is the Tennessee Titans.
He's that leader.
He's that captain.
He's that face of that franchise.
Even though they have a quarterback that they just drafted in Cam Ward, you know, with the first pick.
When you think Tennessee Titans, the first thing you think is Jeffrey Simmons.
Yeah.
So I just don't see him going anywhere.
he said it multiple times, but you never know.
You don't.
You don't.
Somebody might make them an offer they can't refuse.
Yeah, and that's the only time that happened.
Yeah.
But people just not let you just have their best players.
No, absolutely.
You would have to give us some compensation.
Draft picks, high, first rounders.
Yes.
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