Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: USA's EPIC comeback vs. Serbia + Gabby Thomas interview

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson are joined by 200-meter gold medalist Gabby Thomas! Unc and Ocho ask her about USA's rivalry with Jamaica and whether or not she wants to join the 4x400 squad. Also, Unc and Ocho react to LeBron James, Steph Curry and Team USA advancing to the gold medal match vs. France after an electric comeback victory over Nikola Jokic and Serbia, Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone breaking her own 400-meter hurdle world record, Grant Holloway winning the 110-meter hurdles, Noah Lyles finishing third in the 200 meters despite testing positive for COVID-19.03:40 - Show Starts05:10 - USA Basketball beats Serbia to advance to Gold Medal game18:54 - Sydney Mclaughlin breaks WR in 400m Hurdles31:10 - Grant Holloway wins 110m Gold37:08 - Tebogo wins Gold in the 200m45:48 - Gabby Thomas Intv(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Guys, we told you what we're going to try to do. We make sure we're going to try to have current and former athletes to break down some of the Olympics. And ladies, do we have a great interview for you later today uh gabby thomas stopped by but first ocho i've been trying to tell you i said ocho serbia is going to be their

toughest task i say what happens if they hit 23s they were on pace. They hit 15. That was 15 to 30. Going into the board quarter, they went over nine. And the U.S. team, man, they tightened it down. There was a reason. Only three guys received an invitation without trying out. LeBron James, Steph Curry, and Kevin Durant. The committee said, if you guys want to play, you can be on the team. No questions asked, no trials, no anything.

And if you look at that fourth quarter, you look at what LeBron did. Steph Curry was sensational, was great, was amazing. Chef Steph, whatever you want to call him, for the entirety of the game. Kevin Durant. And then you got Joel Embiid, who had his best game by far. Crazy. Crazy work. Now, the U.S. will face France in the gold medal round.

They trail by as many as 17, trail by as many as 13 points, entering into the fourth quarter. Ocho, I know you was like, damn. We're right again. Listen, I was watching. I was watching. I was watching the beginning and I'm watching the game.

I'm like, I remember Unk saying, well, in order for Serbia to have a chance to win, they got to be efficient. They got to hit their threes and hit their shots. And I'm watching the game.

I'm like, ain't no way in hell based on what I saw in the first half. They not finna be able to keep up this volume of shooting and making all these shots. If I'm not mistaken, it looked like they went, might have been 9 for 9,

7 for 7, maybe 5, whatever it might have been. And Curry kept answering back. I was like, I'm looking like, man, USA boy, y'all scaring me now. Y'all scaring me because I've been talking trash. I've been talking trash. And it got to a point now, I don't mean to skip from the first quarter all the way to the end of the game.

It got to the point I seen people rumbling. Why Jason Tatum not in? Why Jason Tatum not playing? And B balling. Curry balling. LeBron doing what he's doing. Would not be denied. And all of a sudden, I'm like, ain't no way in hell these boys listen to Steve Curry.

Steve Curry ain't running them plays. these boys listen to steve kerr steve kerr ain't running them plays man a boy playing au ball okay i tell you i swear for god i guarantee you if you talk to katie you talk to steph or you talk to lebron them boys started doing their own thing towards the end and say you know what we got to win this them boys were playing au ball where they buckled hot man hot man get the ball where they buckled. Hot man get the ball. Where they buckled down. Well, Steph Curry was pretty much hot, and he needed this game. Because Steph hadn't shot the ball well, and he definitely hadn't shot the three ball well. So they really needed him to play like he played today in today's game.

LeBron has been LeBron. LeBron has been incredibly efficient. He's shooting over 60% from the floor. He's doing a great job of facilitating. We know he's a great passer of the ball, and he's doing a great job of facilitating we know he's a great passer of the ball and he's doing an outstanding job of rebounding the ball Kevin Durant is Kevin Durant he had that one game where it was

he got hot made all his threes and the game was still closer than I thought it should have been Kevin Durant is Kevin Durant but Joel Embiid in the fourth quarter he was sensational and you look at the way they played Ocho Durant, but Joel Embiid in the fourth quarter, he was sensational. You look at the way they played Ocho,

you look at Kevin Durant get down on the defensive stance. You look at Devin Booker get down on the defensive stance. LeBron James says, hey, let me bang with you for a little while, Embiid. You take a guy, hey, he ain't no threat outside, but let me bang with him. Hey, we'll switch off here and there, but for the most part, let me bang.

Steph in a defensive stance. They knew this was going to be the upset of upsets. This is not 2004 where they sent a young LeBron, a young D. Wade, a team that was hodgepodge. A lot of pieces, talented players, but

pieces that didn't fit. You cannot lose with LeBron with Steph with KD with all the Joel Embiid all these guys man Ocho they clamped it down what did they score in the fourth quarter the

US outscored them 32 to 15 in the fourth quarter and they needed it that was too close for comfort The US outscored them 32-15 in the fourth quarter. And they needed it. Hey, that was too close for comfort. Yeah. That was too close for comfort. And Serbia came out, man.

They came out looking so good, man. I don't know how to pronounce young boy's last name, right? Who was making fun of, who went to Mello when he hit the three. Bogdanovich. Bogdan Bogdanovich. Boy, listen, them boys from behind that R, well, them boys were looking good.

But I'm like, man, them Serbians ain't come to play. So I'm nervous. I've been talking trash on here. I got people sending me, you know what, if USA lose,

I'm going to blame Ocho. He jinxed us. I'm like, come on, man. What I got to do with that? Everybody else cheering for us, too. But that was a good game. It just, that scare is, don't do that. But that's what

happens, Ocho. I mean, you're talking about one game. Team get hot from behind the three. You fall behind. The basket gets bigger. The ball gets smaller. It goes into the bag. bay like all of a sudden you're looking around like damn damn yeah damn i said so when you look at it from a match-up standpoint serbia i think they matched up very well with us obviously i mean the way they played

obviously shot they shot great for mid-range they shot great from from you know from three how does france match up do you see france as an easier matchup as opposed to serbia well here's the thing wimby is the neutralizer because wimby you can stand in you can stand in the lane as long as you want to ain't no ain't no three seconds you can go attend the ball you can knock the ball off the rim and so he can do a lot of that i think the thing is that and they haven't been playing rudy gobert whole lot. I think he only played five minutes, maybe another game. The game before that, he played three minutes. He's a liability on defense.

He's a liability. I mean, offense. He's a liability. But hey, that's neither here nor there. And at this juncture, damn your feelings. We're trying to win gold. So I understand, Rudy Gobertbert you are what three four time defensive player of the year you got this big contract i understand jason tatum you signed the biggest

contract in nba history you just won a championship uh you on the cover of 2k you just on the cover you know sports illustrated um we're trying to win now. So, you got a long playing while to get over your feelings. We're trying to win this gold. And that's what it comes down to. And Steve Kerr with the guys that,

here are the guys that have been in more big moments than anybody. Especially the big three. Now, Book has played in the NBA Finals. Joel Embiid has never been there.

But, you needed that presence because like you said, there's no three seconds. So, what did Joel Embiid has never been there. But you needed that presence because, like you said, there's no three seconds. So what did Joel Embiid do? Go bank his butt down that side? I said, hey, do what you do in the NBA. I do in the NBA. Go down inside and make him foul you. Or lay the ball up in the basket.

That's what he did. Book didn't have the shot going outside. He was only 2-4. He only took four shots. I mean, the U.S. shot 57% from the floor. They shot 50% from the 3. Has Steph Curry

not been Steph Curry in the first half because he... And in the beginning? Oh, it wouldn't have been. They would have lost. He kept them attacked. Because they could always see the tail light. They were never able to run and hide. And so now, and I was like, dang, they get to 6 and next thing you know it's 15 it's 13 15 yeah but i believe the play of the game

ocho they were down which one like 10 uh-huh kevin durant hit a three and then they get a flagrant on yokich running over ad and pushing him into Kevin Durant. Now we got three and then Book comes ahead of three. So that's a six point swing right there. Yeah. Now you're right back in love again. And, you know, LeBron, I think LeBron, you know, dipped his shoulder, got a fade away. He drove the basket. Kevin Durant, you know. But Steph

was the one that, when Steph came off that screen and he shot it, the three, and I'm like, damn, it popped up. I was like, oh. Get in there. And when it got in there, I was like, okay, we got to leave a little breathing room. But LeBron came down, he found

Kevin Durant, and Kevin Durant hit a little, room. But LeBron came down. He found Kevin Durant. And Kevin Durant hit a little what? Like a 15-foot jumper, Ocho? They gave him some breathing room. And then they found Steph. And then Steph, that was the end of it. That was all she wrote. That was all she wrote.

But they needed, I mean, you need your... Ocho, you do know this was going to be... If Steph Curry, LeBBron and Kevin Durant is not on this team, you do know the U.S. is not winning gold oh yeah you can see it well, hold on, how about this

now that you say that, think about how even without the experience let's say you take Steph, you take Brown you take KD out, and you replace him with some of the bench three of your best players on the bench you don't think they win gold still you know LeBron James played 32 minutes Steph Curry played 33 minutes Kevin Durant off the bench played 24 minutes yes sir nobody else off the bench played more than 13 that's Ant-Man Derek White played

seven AD played 10 Bam played 10 Holiday 20. So they're big guns. LeBron James, 32 minutes. Joel Embiid, 27 minutes. Devin Booker, 24 minutes. Steph Curry, 33 minutes. Kevin Durant, 24 minutes. But do you understand what I was asking? I was hypothetically speaking.

If they weren't, if they weren't here, and you were to take KD, Steph, and LeBron out, let's say they weren't here. Is there anybody take Katie, Steph, and LeBron out, let's say they weren't here. Is there anybody from the bench that can fill in for the production that they have or that they bring to the table? No. Because ain't nobody shooting the three. Who's going to shoot the three to keep them attached?

Because now, if Steph Curry's not hot in the first half, that's a 25, 30-point lead. The game's over. He kept them attached. He kept it a 13-point, a 15-point lead. The game's over. He kept him attached. He kept it a 13 point, a 15 point lead. That thing was teetering. About to go to 25-30. Quick.

Yes. Yes. No. Quick. I was just curious. I was just curious. Everybody's so efficient. Steph shot the most. He shot 19 shots. 14 of them were threes. He was 9 so efficient. Steph shot the most. He shot 19 shots. 14 of them were threes.

He was 9 of 14. They needed every shot. They needed every shot. He was hitting them things. Hey, hold on. Did you see the one at the corner? Oh, yeah, when he turned around? When he shot it by the bench, and he turned around before the ball even went in? I already know it's good.

Yes, sir. yes sir so I mean they only had 10 turnovers they didn't turn them I mean LeBron had two Embiid had three Holiday had one Curry had two

and Ant-Man had two so they didn't have a whole lot of turnovers they had what 25 assists 10 turnovers. They had, what, 25 assists, 10 turnovers. You can live with that. Yeah, but off those turnovers, how many were points? Well, but that's the thing. Because a lot of times, Ocho, what happens, if you turn the ball over, you don't even give you a chance.

You don't even get the ball a shot up. And now you allow the other team to run out on you. Right. But congratulations to the men's team they win a thriller over serbia fight their way into the gold medal uh game against france the u.s win 95 91 outscored the serbians uh 32 15 holding the 0 and 9 from the three-point line and i believe that was the difference in the ball game great Great fault, hard fault victory. This is what you want to be in these close games like this

because the last thing you want to do is be in the gold medal match and haven't had anything close. They know now. How you deal with adversity. How you respond to adversity and they responded real well.

They will not underestimate French. The French team. Because they're in France. So you know that thing's going to be ruckus. Rally. Oh, yeah. But they don't have no shooters like Serbia got. Nah, they got no shooters.

They got Wimby. They got Ford. They got a couple of guys that can put the ball in the... But Ocho, they've played together for so long. So long, yeah. They know each other. That's the advantage. I mean, think about it.

This team been together less than a month. Yeah. Yeah, I know what you can do, but I've got to figure out where you want the ball, where you need the ball. How do we get... Hey, they know back cuts and picks and things like that. And sometimes I think the U.S. overpassed the the ball trying to do too much but hey right currency i'm riding my guns

say what y'all want to say yeah we'll discuss we'll discuss this later but i love i love i love the way the u.s team played ocho and uh they win this ball game shoot 57 from the floor 50 from the three they need to do a better job from the floor, 50% from the three. They need to do a better job from the free throw line because they only shot 64% from the free throw line. But they hold off a valued effort. The third one of this. Oh, they were hurt. You could tell.

You could tell. Because they wanted to brag. They wanted to go on and be on their network and say, we beat the big, bad Americans. But you would have to wait another four years for that to happen. Yeah. And when that four years come, they still ain't gonna win. They still ain't gonna win.

So, congratulations USD. Ocho, Sidney, McLaughlin, Leveroni, wins gold in the 400 hurdles with a new world record. It's the sixth time she's broken the world record since 2021. a new world record. It's the sixth time she's broken the world record since 2021. A new

world record, 50.37. She's the first woman to ever repeat as the Olympic champ in the 400-meter hurdles. Only Glenn Davis No, you don't know who that is, Ochoa, but anyway. I was there with Glenn Rand. Go ahead.

What consecutive goals in the men's side. 1956 in Melbourne, 1960 in Rome. And then you had Edwin Moses, the great Morehouse grad. He won in 76 in Montreal. We boarded Moscow in 80. In 84. And then in 84 in LA, he won. And then I think he won a bronze medal, too, in Seoul, didn't he?

I think he got two golds and a bronze. But he was going to be heavy favorite. But you never know. Hey, the favorites don't always win. But if I'm not mistaken, Ash, I think he got a bronze. He might have got a bronze in Seoul. Okay. I didn't know.

I didn't know. I asked somebody. You knew. You knew he got a. I didn't know, Ash. I didn't know. I didn't know. I't know I asked somebody you knew you knew he got him I didn't know I didn't know I thought he did though but he's regarded

as the greatest hurdler because Ocho this joker went 10 years and never got beat over 110 races and never lost

the finals right so I'm trying to think who finally beat it. Was it Andre Phillips or Kevin Young? They didn't

track, they didn't cover track like we do now. You know, you go on Peacock and they got the Diamond League. But the only thing that they, the only thing that you,

huh? Yeah. Andre Phillips. Ocho, I don't, Ocho, I'm sorry, Ocho. I'm sorry, Ocho. I didn't mean to say Andre Phillips was the one that broke his streak. I'm sorry, Ocho I'm sorry Ocho I didn't mean to say Andre Phillips was the one

that broke his streak I'm sorry Ocho but anyway they didn't cover it like they do now Ocho the Olympics was always covered heavily even the world championship wasn't covered like we cover them now and so you know you had to like pick and choose I mean you might read you might get a glimpse

and obviously the American athletes you know especially like Ed, Carl Lewis, people that did things like that. They talked about it. But for the most part, it didn't get covered. But I'm not surprised by this. I've been trying to tell people they keep trying to make this arrival. It's not a rival. has never beaten Sidney McLaughlin-Lobroni because, Ocho, when you

look at it, name something that she does better than see it. She doesn't have the strength. Sidney is a sub 49, 400 meter runner. She don't have the foot speed either. She doesn't have the foot speed. Sidney in the indoor season, she

runs 60 meter hurdles. She'll run the shorter hurdles, the 60 meter hurdles. She'll run that. She'll run that. She'll run the shorter hurdles, the hundred meter hurdles. So she's working on technique. So you don't have the, you don't have the sprint.

You don't have the foot speed. You don't have the technique. So how do you beat her? But today you don't, the moment they needed it for Ocho. I heard a press conference. She said, I can't explain it. It was a bad day,

but the lactic acid at 300 meters in, when I got to about 300 meters, so 100 meters into the race, Ocho, she said I felt the lactic acid already build up. That's pressure. That's nerves. That's nerves. Yeah, that's nerves.

You got to stay relaxed. You got to stay relaxed. Again, I'm not sure if she's one that's not used to the big moment, but see it as used to those big moments. She's used to it. At the end of the day, it's still just a race where you can block out the point, the fact that I'm representing my country. You can block out the fact that I'm at the biggest stage. Block out the fact that I'm at the Olympics.. Block out the fact that I'm at the Olympics. It's just another race.

And that's the hard part to do. Yeah, you can say that. That's what people say about the Super Bowl. It's just another. So why are there 70,000 people already in the stands? It is two hours before the game. It ain't like that. Why are all these people on the sidelines? Why is Denzel Washington, why are all these famous

people standing on the sidelines when it's not like that before oh yeah and you know what we've never gone on the road for a week before i've been on the location for a week we normally go in that saturday to get there around 3 30 4 o'clock oh show and we back after we've been here a week right man said laid down a blistering time dog um unbelievable we're gonna talk about and we talked to mike about this i look no bobby curse i don't know him personally but i know a lot of a lot of the guys that he trained i know how he thinks bobby wants he wants his athletes to leave legacies and could it be a possibility she do both at the at the at the next worlds in 20 uh 20 in 25 uh what you want the 400 hurdles and the 400 or does she bypass it say okay i'm gonna do the

worlds i'm gonna run the hurdle i'm gonna try to get this thing even lower, maybe even 50.10 or maybe even sub 50. And then for 28, I'm going to contest the open four. She's only 24 years of age. So even at 28, she'll still be in her prime. And if she stays healthy and you know Bobby Kersey, Bobby Kersey, you got Bobby Kersey who trains. You got John Smith, his crew trains. Tanya Buford Bailey, who trains a lot of females out. Dennis Mitchell, who trains you got john smith his crew trains tanya buford bailey who trains a lot of females out dennis mitchell who trains this group but knowing bobby the way that i've known him and

studied his athletes bobby likes a challenge bobby's like when you talk about my athletes you talk about what they did what they've done nobody else has ever done it and you know when we talked to michael michael says nobody had ever even thought about doing it on the men's side until i did it nobody's even come i mean the kahunas that you gotta have to even put ocho the four and the two in the same olympics that's crazy we've seen guys and gals drop down their 400 meters shereka jackson she was a 400 meters she got a bronze medal in the world's one year we seeika Jackson. She was a 400 meter. She got a bronze medal in the world's one year. We see

Fred Curley. He was a 400 meter guy. He dropped down. But to do both? That's why that's double. It's really hard. Anna Cockrell, she got

the silver. In the six years since signing an eye-popping seven-figure deal with New Balance in 2018, she's racked up 10 major championships. That's Sydney, McLaughlin, Lebroni. She's won four U.S. championships, three Worlds, now three Olympic goals. She will run

on the women's four-by-four. So, well, hey, she about to get another one. And I told you. Femke, oh, Femke. That's crazy. Did you see that blistering leg? Bro, I saw Femke got tied up at the mix last year

when that girl tied up. Yeah. Y'all actually thought that she was, if they got the baton at the same time, y'all actually thought Femke Boll could run with Sid? I mean, I don't think anybody thought that, but they keep trying to make it a rivalry because they need somebody because Sid continues to dominate. She continues to dominate year in and year out at every competition, at every event. So they're trying to create a narrative that that is a rival of hers because obviously she's good, but it's just not that.

And I don't think there's anyone who's going to challenge it unless someone just comes out of nowhere that we don't know about yet. That's a young, what's the word? A young prodigy. Prodigy. Prodigy, you're right. But here's the thing, though. We've never seen anybody that have this kind of combination. Oh, no.

The raw foot speed, the strength, and the technique. And the endurance to that as well. But you see what she did? She started running fours. Yeah. Bobby would make, hey, you're going to run to 100. You're going to run to 200 to work on your foot speed. No, you know what? We're going to put you to 60 hurdles. You're going to run to 200 to work on your foot speed.

No, you know what? We're going to put you to 60 hurdles. Bobby will make his, he will make him put his athletes in situations where they're uncomfortable. So now when the moment arrived, normally that's one thing you can say about Bobby curse is athlete. Normally they perform very well unless they're injured. And a lot of times they're even Nick Bobby ain't fooling with him.

He, that's, that's, that's a rarity for Bob. If you're, if his athletes are, he don't care if it're even Nick, Bobby ain't fooling with him. That's a rarity for Bobby. If his athletes are Nick, he don't care. If it's the world, he don't care how big. He says it's not worth the risk. I'm not doing that. So I have the utmost respect. Quincy Watts, he's another trainer. He trains Michael Norman.

He trains Rob Benjamin. So I think Fred Curley is in that group out there too. I don't know if he directly worked with Fred. But you look at Sia, obviously unprecedented. Now remember, Ocho, she didn't even contest the Worlds last year. That's why Femme Cabal won that World Championship.

Sia didn't contest it. She will have no World Title if Sia contests that Sid is about to be four four world championships two Olympic goals broke the world record six

it's my record I broke it right it's mine it's gonna be three goals but go ahead oh yeah she gonna run a leg

she's definitely gonna run a leg on there but I'm impressed by this she's very very impressive remember she made the Olympic team, what, 17? Yeah. But you can see. That's crazy. That's crazy. And congratulations, Sid.

We got a little something coming for your weight. Damn. Man, my pockets. How much I'm down now, Ash? How much we down? Hey, listen. Hey, let me tell you what God said, man. Don't forget what it said in the Bible. What?

God loves a cheerful giver. Whatever thee giveth, thee come back tenfoldeth. Hey, don't forget that. Is that what he said? I don't know what he said. Yeah. Whatever. God loves a cheerful giver

alright and what we doing now we paying our tithes and you know what happens when you pay your tithes he allows the cup to runneth over after that

so don't worry about it whatever you whatever we done had to pay well for these three weeks these Olympics we gonna get back tenfold well

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drop every Tuesday. Grad Holloway wins the gold in the 110-meter hurdle hurdles holloway is the first american to win 100 meter hurdle gold since aries merit the world record holder with 12.80 in london in 2012 he's followed by american daniel roberts in second taking the silver freddie crinded and ranked fourth in the world couldn't complete the podium sweep he finished sixth he was nursing an abductor injury and you know he even jogged over the

heath and said I'm going to take my chances so he kind of got injured in between the trials and leading coming in Rasheed Broadbale of Jamaica took the bronze who was that Noah Lyles won by what? 5,000th of a second?

Daniel Roberts beat Broadbale by 3,000th of a second. Holloway led from start to finish. You know he's got a tremendous start. And he wins in a time of 12.99. Liu Shang of China still holds the Olympic record. So congratulations, Grant Holloway. I think he's a little upset.

I think he wants more sponsorships. Uh, he says, I don't have a watch deal. I don't know who goes into track and field. Track and field is not a, it's not a sport like football. It's not a sport like basketball.

Baseball is not one of these major sports. So unless you're Usain Bolt, you know, there have only been a handful of, I'm talking about America. Now, I don't know what the international, I don't know what they get. I don't know what Carson Warhol make and I don't know, but I'm just talking about both.

And I know Carl Lewis, what he got paid. Carl Lewis was kind of like Usain, got the big dollars to go to the meat, show up at the meat, Michael Johnson, but you saying is a different animal. So unless you're you saying,

the likelihood of those big, big dollars coming. Yeah. But I think it is possible though. It's possible to get the big dollars and run track, but you have to be, you have to be a personality. You run track but you have to be you have to be a personality you have to you have to you have to force yourself or or be able to force the people to want to see what's going to happen you have to have some type of uh some type of uh personality about yourself that it

makes those companies want to pay because they know when you get ready when you get ready to run the visibility of their product is going to be seen on you. Right. You get what I'm trying to say?

But you have to so you can't just you can't just be someone that that wins all the time because that does nothing. But when you add the personality and like this type of aura

where everyone has to gravitate towards you, even a little bit of trash talk, I think it's kind of frowned upon when it comes to track though. Once you add that personality to anything that you do and you're good at it, sky's the limit.

Sponsors like who they like. Sia doesn't say a word. You watch Sia, she's stone-faced when she walks on the limit. Sky's the limit after that. Sponsors like who they like. Sia doesn't say a word. You watch Sia, she's stone-faced when she walks on the track. Yes. You're right, it's different. Carl Lewis didn't do anything. Michael Johnson didn't do anything. Sponsors like who they like, Ocho.

We can't, Ocho, we can't. We think we do a great job at what we do. I think we do. I think we create great content. I think we create great content. I think we have great graphics. We spend a lot of money on graphics and editors and social media. There ain't no lack. But I can't get mad

if sponsors want to spend with Joe Rogan and not us. I can't get mad because they want to spend with New Heights and not us. Or Bussing with the Boys or Who's Your Daddy? We just got a career content and then Hope sponsors like, okay, wow, they got a big following.

People know who Nightcap is. They know Club Shea Shea. They like Unc. They like Ocho. We think there's a way that we can come together and make something happen. I mean, but if you got in the track and field, think you was going to make LeBron James money?

Or you was going to make Patrick Mahomes money? You saying it was anomaly. You saying won three Olympic... First of all, there hadn't been a whole lot of men to repeat the double. He tripled the double. He tripled the double. He broke the world record. He broke the world

record again. He broke the world record in the 200. He lowered it again. He ran time. They said at some point in time, the human body can't run that fast. He went sub 9-7. He went sub 9-6. He went... Yeah, but you got to understand,

not only was he winning, he was a huge personality that everybody wanted to watch. When you add that other dynamic to outside of just winning, I don't care if you was a goddamn steeplechase or what's the walk, what's the one they do this?

Racewalking. Yeah, if you was a race the one that you're walking? Yeah. If you even use a race walk, if you, if you're a race walker and you got some type of personality and you add that dynamic to you winning. Oh, they coming.

They coming. Oh, Joe. But think about it. His last name is boat. He's faster. Oh, Joe.

Yeah. He just made sense. Yeah. Hey, everything, everything aligned and you run track. Your last name is Bolt and you run track and you're fast. What are we going to do

with that, Ocho? Yeah, you're right. You're right. The old saying, we say, boy, that boy faster than lightning. This man's name, his actual name is Usain Bolt. Lightning Bolt. Right. Yeah.

Everything. Sometimes the stars align. Align. Yeah. They were. They were. Ocho. I think I'm pronouncing this right.

Let's see. Ocho I think I'm pronouncing this right Let's see Tobogo wins gold in the 200 meters final with a time of 1946 I believe

had he not celebrated that is a sub-19-4 run he's celebrated he's the first Botswanan to win Olympic to win gold

in Olympics history he's the first Botswanan to win gold in Olympics history? He's the first Botswanan? Wow. Kenny Benerik took silver. Noah Lyles took bronze. Tobogo, he lost his mom about three, four months ago. If you look at the side of his shoe, I think it had 12, 23, 80. That was the day.

That was the birth date of his mom. So she couldn't have been more than 44, 43. Maybe she hadn't had a birthday yet. So she was 43 years of age. LeSele is 21, if I'm not mistaken. So she was fairly young. And it meant a lot to him. What gave me pause that Noah could pull this off

is that I saw this young man run low 44 in the open four. So that tells me he's strong. I don't know if y'all missed it, but he missed the podium. He ran 9.8, so he has the speed. And if you go back and study, was a time i think noah lyles ran like a 1950 he ran 1957 1954 56 something like that so okay he's been running 400 meters building up his strength he has the foot speed. He ran 9.8, 9.83, 9.84, something like that. So he has the foot speed. Now he has the strength to carry that, and he's running.

Mom was pushing him, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, she had her hands in his back. She said, I got you today, son. Yeah. Oh, man. Hey. He ran a beautiful race.

Listen, from start to finish, every phase, every transition that happens when you come out of those blocks, he did to a T. He did it to a T. He got out beautifully. And the fact that he had such a lead by the time they got to about 110, 120 time they got about a hundred and... By the time they got to about 110, 120 meters, it was a wrap. You can tell. It was a wrap. Nobody was catching them.

He had Kenny Benerick. Kenny Benerick he run sub-19.6. He had him in front of him. So I got something to look at. I just thought that was a lot of distance. Coming off the curve. I thought that was a lot of distance for Noah because you got to spend a lot of energy. Because Tobago is not a slowpoke.

And he has endurance. He has strength to hold it. Yeah. Matter of fact, when I think about it, when I watch the race on, and I'm not going to use the excuse about Noah being sick or having COVID.

Forget all that. I think maybe it affected him, but he had so much come out of him when he ran that 100. If he was the witness to 100 today, I think he would have had to come out them damn blocks and catch the stagger. Coming off the curve, they would have had to be even. I think they would have had to be even and not him having to come off the curve and then think down the straightaway, okay, you know what? I'm going to catch people like I do in the 100

on the ladder back half. When you can't, because you done gave them too much goddamn ground coming off the curve. You're not running against nobody slow. You're running against somebody that can maintain their speed as they go. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Noah Lyles is healthy. And Tobogo is running like he did today.

Well, they're both going to be in the low 19 threes. Yes, sir. They're both going to be in the 19 threes. We're going to see something extremely special i'm just because like i said i understand you know covid i guess it affects your lungs and your ability to to oxygenate bring in oxygen get out you know carbon dioxide i don't i'm not did you did you did you have i've never had it no I've never had it. No, I never had it either. But, I mean, those that I know that are around me, I asked them during that time how it made you feel. It made you feel weak.

Yeah. It made you feel weak. You had to drink a lot of fluids. So understanding that he had the symptoms of COVID and then you were able to come out there and run and steal bronze, knowing what it does to the body. Right. I mean, listen. Commendable steal. knowing what it does to the body I mean

commendable still commendable still to get bronze knowing that you just tested positive for COVID two days before that I mean no excuse but it is what it is but we've all had upper respiratory and you know what it's like when you have an upper respiratory it's hard

trying to play football I've tried to play football with those man it ain't easy and I can just imagine trying to... You can barely breathe. And I'm in Denver, which exactly... That altitude is even worse. But let's give

C.L.A. Tobogo his flowers. He won. I think they got a silver medal a couple years ago with Rhodesia. Maybe that was 2012. Was that 2012? When Rhodesia broke the world record of 800 from Kenya. And I think they have a young Botswana that got the silver. I like it.

They had 12 athletes. They got nothing in Beijing. They got a silver. This is Botswana Olympics. Oh, they got an 800-meter runner. Oh, he got a silver this is Botswana Olympics oh they got a 800 meter runner oh he got a silver okay London

okay hey Mo my daughter say she watching hey baby hey Mo how you doing yeah Mo you raced me too you beat your daddy you can make you some money too

so Ocho they've won a grand total of three medals they've got a silver, a bronze and now they've got Botswana but what events though I know well obviously they just won the 200 meters if I'm not mistaken I think

they got a silver in the London game in the 800 meters. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. I like it. And he was young, too. 21. Oh, in the London games? Oh, yeah, yeah.

That was what you called him, right? He was Botswana. Yeah. McQuala. McQuala. They have another 400-meter guy that's really good. I don't think he meddled in anything like that. Right.

Yeah. The 4x4. Yeah. They have a nice relay team. But Tobogo ain't to be played with. He like that. No, he he's really really like that so yeah i understand um you've uh um this was an upset because no allows what he's a three-time was the three of the favorites he was a three-time defending world champ uh he was running some of his best.

We've seen him run down Kenny Benerick. At the trials, we've seen him run down Arian Knighton. We've seen him beat Tobogo head-to-head. But today, it just wasn't meant to be. Let's see Tobogo, gold in the 200, Kenny Benerick, silver, Noah Lyles, bronze. Arian Knighton missed the podium again with the guy to fourth. He just missed the podium.

Noah Lyles revealed after the race he tested positive for COVID, telling NBC he was feeling really, really horrible, but he never considered dropping out of the field. He's trying to win sports' first Olympic double in the 100 and 200 since Usain Bolt did it three times in a row in Beijing, London, and Rio. The first American since Carl to do it in 1984. Ain't a whole lot of men

that's done it. Ain't a whole lot of women that's done it. Right. It's difficult. That's a difficult feat, man. You know how much energy you are exerting when you have to win one race, then to come back and do it again, then you got to qualify. That's eight.

Well, that's a lot on the body, man. It is. It is. It absolutely... Let's see, Lane. Okay, Ocho, now it's time for our... We had a very special guest this morning on. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen We had a very special guest this morning Oh yeah Ladies and gentlemen, you're going to love this

She is unbelievable Trust me I've seen some of her interviews But to get an opportunity for Ocho and I To interview her, she's unbelievable Here as I sit down with America's 200 meter champ Gold medalist

Legend already I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready oh Joe we have a very special guest joining us the reigning 200 meter Olympic champ she's a member of the winning world championship 4x1

she ran a blistering third leg they qualified this morning with the fastest time even though they had a little hiccup between TT and herself with the exchange. They're going to correct that. Going to win another gold medal. We're going to talk about her

possibly running a leg on the 4x4. Welcome us, ladies and gentlemen, Gabby Thomas. Gabby! Thanks, guys. I forgot to mention she also has an undergrad degree Gabby Thomas. Gabby! Yay! Thanks, guys. Let's go. I forgot to mention,

she also has an undergrad degree in neurobiology, and she has a master's degree in epidemiology. Is that correct? That's right. And she's currently employed in Austin, where she serves

underprivileged women. Is that correct also? Yeah, yeah. I volunteer at a healthcare clinic where I provide healthcare services to people who don't have health insurance. Ooh, that's dope. Okay.

I have a question. What are you doing, as much as you're doing, especially when it comes to academics, how do you manage balancing your academics? I mean, hold on. How do you manage balancing your athletics with your academic pursuits and neurology and sleep? How do you say it? How do you say, balance your athletics with your academic pursuits and neurology and sleep? How do you say it?

How do you say it? Epidemiology. Yeah. How do you balance the two? Well, I think because I started out as an NCAA athlete. You know, all collegiate athletes, it's hard. It's hard to balance it. But you kind of figure it out and you make it work.

And so I was juggling a difficult major and track and field. And while when I was running in college, track and field wasn't quite at the level that I'm running at now, we were still very committed to it. We were training really elite D1 athletes. We were going to LSU or we went to Oregon and stuff like that. So I kind of got the ropes in, in college. And then the transition from college to pro was just, it was easier. Wow.

Let me ask, let me ask you this. How much pressure, because you got the bronze at, um, at the last Olympics, you got the silver. If I'm not mistaken at the past worlds,

you're the face of this big ad with Toyota. You're the face of this. Now, Sharika Jackson, she steps out. That's even because there was pressure on you to do better than what you did at the last Olympic. Now, Sharika has withdrawn. Now, there's a ton of pressure. We had Justin Gallen, who's a world champion and an Olympic champ.

We had Michael Johnson, a world champ and an Olympic champ. He says, sometimes the things that can weight an individual and an Olympic champ. We had Michael Johnson, a world champ and an Olympic champ. He says sometimes the things that can weight an individual and an athlete down is expectations. How much, what type of burden were the expectations? You are the face of this Toyota ad. Okay, Gabby, you're out there.

Okay, we see you. You better bring home gold. I know. Everyone kept texting me talking about, oh, I see you on toyota everywhere like before trials even before i even made the olympic team you know they were showing my face on the everywhere so i hadn't even become like the olympian yet so there was definitely a lot of pressure and for me in 2021 like coming from harvard and not having any you know medals or

having made any usa team it was just a lot of fun for me. Like I was going out there and running and no one had any expectations. So I was having a great time. I was like, all right, let's go. Let's go wind up next to Alison Felix. Let's go see what happens. It'll be great. And then as soon as I made the Olympic team, it changed.

And then as soon as I got a bronze medal, it changed. Now, suddenly people are talking about, okay, if you don't medal now, that's an L, right? If you don't make this team next year, you know, that's a big L. And so it immediately changed my mindset. And then even going into this year, yeah, I'm going in as a favorite. And there, I mean, I was telling people before I even stepped up to the line for my prelim, I have never felt this type of pressure before in my entire life. I mean, you walk, you walk out there and you're just, you're by yourself. Like you don't have a team to take that loss with you. If you, someone messes up, there's no, there's no redo. There's no next play. There's none of that.

It's like, all right, you're going to go out there by yourself in front of 80,000 people. And then, you know, the millions of people watching at home. And if you don't get it right in this one moment, especially in the short sprints, it's over. So it's definitely a lot of pressure. But for me, I practice, like I meditate, I practice like focus. So if you can dissociate in that moment, you know, that separates the good athletes from the great athletes. If you're over there on the line, thinking about how many people are watching you, you're going to mess up. And you can see it in people's faces when they line up to the line.

You can see, you can tell. When you're watching an athlete, you look in their eyes and you can see like, okay, this person has figured it out. They're about to knock this race out and someone who's scared and they're like, all right, this is going to be, they're going to have to fight for this.

Before you go to the line, before you line up, before you go into the blocks, do you envision the race and play it out in your head before you actually run? Because when I think from a football standpoint, I would look at the first 15 plays are always scripted, right?

And so before we go into a game, I envision what the route will look like regardless of who's in front of me and how I'm going to execute it. Do you do that as a runner right before a big event with that kind of pressure on you? A hundred percent. I had envisioned that race a hundred times,

at least before I ran it over the last week. I envisioned every single, like I envisioned the walkout, getting into the blocks, the first couple of steps. I envisioned like the middle end, who's outside of me. I ran it through my head so many times

to the point where I could have ran that race with my eyes closed. That's how perfectly I wanted to feel comfortable in that race. Now, when I actually won, like that was a different story. I couldn't have envisioned, you know, how that was going to feel, what I was going to do, but every single step, what I was going to do, I had already pictured in my head, in my head, I had already won. Like I was already the Olympic champion. And so I had to go out with that mindset. Gabby, I watched you in this race. And what surprised me is that you had a tune-up race before

a pre-olympic race and you raised jillian alfred you raised dina asher smith uh nita was also in that race and you did not get out in that race like you did in the olympic final what did you learn because you gave up too much of a cushion you're like i ain't making that mistake i'm not making that mistake again no that race really that was a wake-up call for me so first of all i want to start off by saying so that was the london diamond league race it is very difficult a lot of our races are overseas and when you train in the united states that is very difficult so for me you know the time I knew going into that, that girls, those girls have been in Europe. So I had to get off a plane lineup and I knew I'm like, all right, I'm a little jet lagged right now. So it's going to be tough, but we're going to make this happen. And so that's what jet lag looks like.

You, you, you feel like you're ready. You might feel ready. You're fit, you're fast, whatever. But that 1% difference is everything. So when I got off that curve in that race, and I realized how far behind I was, I was, I mean, I panicked. I was like, oh, shoot, like I might actually lose this race. And you don't want to go into the Olympics having a loss under your belt. It's just not good for your confidence.

So everything I could to win that race. But the thing is, it just gave me confidence because I knew I could win anyway. So I knew I could win even if I was 30 meters behind the. So I knew I could win even if I was 30 meters behind the field. I was like, I'm going to figure out a way to win. I knew I could win if I came off the turn in front, you know, in the mix or dead last. So it gave me that confidence going into the Olympics. And it really just became a question of, you know, how am I going to win

this race? Am I going to, am I going to get out well, or am I just going to fight for it? And so it was less of a question of if I'm going to win, it was more so like, how am I going to get out well or am I just going to fight for it? And so it was less of a question of if I'm going to win. It was more so like, how am I going to win? The thing that I like most about you is that you didn't panic because a lot of times we see people in races, like you said, you got off a plane, you're jet lagged and you're like,

well, I don't have it today, but I'm okay. Or they panic in the race and it makes the situation, exacerbates the situation. You relax and says, I believe I still have my training and the foundation in which I put forth. I believe I still can catch these, these women.

And in the last 20 meters, I'm like, where did she come from? Exactly. Exactly. And that's the, you have to go into the race with confidence and trust in the training and trust in everything that you've done. And that's what I did. The worst thing you with confidence and trust in the training and trust in everything that you've done.

And that's what I did. The worst thing you can do is panic and tense up in a sprint. I mean, every little thousandth of a second counts. And if you're stressed out, running, panicked, you know, that's it. Yeah. Gabby, have you thought about it? I don't know. And there are some speculation that said this might be Sid's last 400 meter, 400 hurdle race. And she might be looking to go to the open 400. There have only been a handful of people. Valerie Briscoe Hooks did it. She won the two and the four in the 84 Olympics. Marie-José Perrette did it in 96, along with Michael Johnson.

A lot of people don't realize that. but in that same Olympics that Mike doubled, the French woman, she doubled. Is that something that you've thought about going up to the 200 and maybe challenging, asking the Federation to say, you know what, can y'all stagger this a little bit to give me a little bit more time to recover? Or maybe the one-two, or maybe the two-four.

Have you thought about something like that? You know, I have thought about it. And even, you know, for our Olympic trials this year, I really was going to double. I was going to do the 400 and the 200. Ultimately we decided that this was my year for the 200 and that we were going to focus on that alone. So I dropped out at the last minute, but I've definitely considered it. I think for now, it's just been like, all right, let's make this happen. Let's get an Olympic gold under my belt so I can, I can get that title and keep it. But I think in the future's just been like, all right, let's make this happen. Let's get Olympic gold under my belt so I can, I can get that title and keep it. But I think in the future, absolutely.

I'm going to have to prove to the world and to myself that I have what it takes to double, you know, Michael Johnson had already set the precedent like everyone that we knew, you know, he was going to go out and double and make some noise in both events. So you need someone who's really going to show up in both events and be a gold medal contender. And I definitely do see myself in the future being that in the 400. But right now we got, I mean, like you said, we have a steep, steep pool of 400 meter runners. I mean, even Sydney,

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Are you in the pool for the 4x4? Would you like to run a leg on that? Because we saw Allison Felix. We've seen Abby Steiner do it. And you can run sub 50. And that's saying something. Absolutely. Oh, you want a leg? Absolutely. I want a leg. Absolutely. I ran my quarter

this year. I went to World Relays this year. I ran that leg for Team USA. I got us qualified. So I absolutely, I'm in the pool. We've had some practices. We don't know the relay order yet. You know, it's always going to be a surprise for Team USA because it's going to be whoever is ready on that day.

So we got to see how the quarter millers look in their finals. We got to see how people are looking in practice. We got to see how I look in this 4x1 tomorrow. So we're going to see how everyone looks and then the relay coach decides who's on it, but I absolutely want a spot. Absolutely. I like it. I'm more curious. I like the fact that something that you were able to do, something that I was very horrible at is the fact that you were able to balance academics and still excel at your craft. I was horrible at it. As someone who also went to Harvard, right? One semester, just one semester. Did you have an

advantage based on your academic pursuits and neurobiology and sleep? Epidemiology. Epidemiology, right? Does that give you an influence and different perspective on health and fitness? Because when it comes to health, I eat McDonald's. I still do to this day. Throughout the entirety of my career, I ate McDonald's. Does it give you an advantage, you know, in different perspective on health and fitness? I think so. I think in college I had a very good and deep understanding of the importance of sleep and the importance of my health and how that affected my recovery. of the importance of sleep and the importance of my health and how that affected my recovery. Right. And, you know, as an athlete, recovery is at least half the battle.

And in track and field, I would say it's definitely the majority of the battle. Right. And so having that actual understanding of what's going on and what happens when you only get six hours of sleep a night, you know, instead of nine or 10. Right. Like that definitely did make a difference. I had an appreciation for it. And when you actually understand why you're doing something you're doing, you definitely are more committed to it.

So I was committed to that discipline. And that discipline is what got me to where I am today, because I was never like the most talented athlete. That's why I didn't go to one of those, you know, really crazy track schools, but I was very disciplined and I did everything correct. I did everything right.

And it got me here. And I think it's because I had that education and I had that background and that foundation. That's dope. Go ahead, Ocho. Yeah. And just for the people that listen, if you listen to her answer, there's one word that she said three times. One word. And if we all had this, we would all excel in whatever it is that we do.

And the key words she kept saying over and over was discipline. And that's what we all struggle with. Yeah. I read that Alison Felix is one of your biggest inspirations. And you kind of mind your stride patterns. She's a long strider, elongated strider. So is yourself. So have you had an opportunity to talk to Alison since you won the gold?

Oh, I haven't gotten to talk to her since I've won the gold. But I see what she had to say about my race. And it's such an honor. Just the fact that she's watching me just has me so excited. And like, I don't know, the little girl in me is like screaming because she, you know, she, she believed in me for like the race. I saw her walk through my race on video and talking about, Oh, he looks so great. Just walking up to the line. And then I got out strong and hard and then held on. She's like, no, one's catching me. And I was just like, this is such an honor. I was so excited, but I spoke to her before the Olympics and, you know, she gave me

advice and she told me to just keep doing exactly what I've been doing. Enjoy the moment. You know, everything that I've done to get to this point means I'm moving in the right direction. And so I just need to trust in my training, um, because she's been through this and she was like, I know what it's like to be the favorite. She knows what it's like to go through the pressure. And so to hear that coming from her, I was like, all right, you know what? You're right.

I got this. You're going to keep doing what I'm going to do. Your coach, Tanya Buford Bailey. Um, she was a 400 meter hurdle guy, a hurdler. I remember that race between her and Kim Batten when they was separated and

they both went under the world record. Um, so what is your training like? Because obviously you train in, I think you train in Austin or take some part of take it hot wherever wherever part of texas is hell hot and so what has she been able to help you with guide you with to help gabby thomas get to the pinnacle coach bailey is the best he is the best coach mentor she's such a mom figure and she was an elite athlete herself like she has olympic medals so i mean i trained like a 400 meter runner because

you know she was a 400 meter runner and she loves having us run but mainly like she understands what it's like to be on the circuit like she understands what it's like to be an elite track runner she gets that it is a doggy dog world. So having her in my ear when I'm going to races, when I'm lining up before the Olympics, telling me, you know what? You just got to do what you got to do. You got to figure out how to win.

And she taught me just how to win races. And we can go and talk about this form stuff all day long. We can talk about... You could do that. But at the end of the day, you have to figure out how to win races and win when it matters. And that's what, that's what she knows how to do. And she knows how to coach me how to do that because she's been through it. Right. That's a good thing. Winning when it matters most. So before the race, I'm just curious,

I, I'm, I'm not very superstitious, but do you have any pre-race rituals or superstitions you might have before race? Absolutely not. I don't do any of that superstition so i don't believe in it because because it doesn't matter i you know it's like something goes wrong for the race it doesn't matter like if i forget a spike or it doesn't none of that matters like you just have to go out there and figure out how to win if my nail color is not the certain color that none of it matters you know and like we just don't i don't do it that way my coach doesn't do it that way either um she just told me to go out there and be a killer that's the last thing she said to me you've had one of the best seat in the house over the last five or six years this u.s versus jamaica

not only on the men's side but on the women you. They have Shelly Ann. They have Elaine Thompson-Hara. They have Sharika Jackson. And before, they had Stewart. And they had so many great runners in yourself and Alison Felix and this one and that one. So what's that rivalry like? Do you feel it's a rivalry? Do you know what's at stake when the green, black, and gold step to the line and you got the stars and stripes?

Absolutely. I grew up watching this rivalry. It's so fun to watch. Jamaica has some heavy hitters. For me, unfortunately, coming into professional track, I came in when they were just at that top. I was running against Elaine. I was

just in those races. It was very intimidating for me me but you respect them so much i think that right now we are in such an amazing era of american women sprinting like the we are really crushing the game um but you know it's a back and forth it's a give and take it's a push and pull it's a back and forth like you know when one of us drops a crazy time the jamaicans don't want to see that they're gonna they're gonna snatch it right back and vice versa and i think that's really cool because we're really bringing women sprinting to new heights like we're just such a good product right now because of that rivalry and even you know having sharika out this year it it's really unfortunate to not have your reigning world champion in in the

race um but it's just part of that give and take, you know, this is not her year, just like it wasn't my year last year. And she will be back and we will go at it. You know, she'll get back healthy. It's really hard to be really fast for a long time and stay healthy. As y'all know, like this is, it's really hard on your body to be at the top of the game for a while. It takes a lot of management, a lot of planning. And thankfully my coach and I had planned this year perfectly.

But I know she'll be back. So, you know, we can't stay complacent with it because that's the sport. It's Jamaica versus USA. I forgot about the great 200-meter run of Veronica Campbell-Brown, who her and Allison used to go back and forth before Elaine Thompson-Hara and Sharika Jackson got to it. The mayor of your hometown in Northampton, Massachusetts, say they will honor you with a Gabby Thomas date.

You grow up as a little girl and you look at yourself now, I think you're 27 years of age. Could you have imagined your life, say you're five, six years old back then, and you look at your life now, could you have imagined this, Gabby? Absolutely not. I really could not. And you know, I, I had dreams of like being a doctor, being an actress, but you know, little kids, they'd say that stuff, but I couldn't have never imagined that I would be chasing dreams like this and actually achieving them. But, you know, I grew up in, my mom was such a hard worker and she went after her dreams and she always told me like, you have a light, you were going to shine so bright and you were so special. And when you have a parent that instills that in you, you know, you start

to believe it deep, like in your core. And so I did, even though I didn't know what that would look like, I didn't know what I would go on to accomplish. Like I just innately knew that. And so I still carry that. And so I want, you know, my future children and any young girl who's watching me to believe that, too. If you genuinely can believe that and think, OK, I can do something special. I am made for this. You can do it. You just really have to believe it. And so I think that, you know, my career, my my trajectory has just been, you know, a showcase of that. That's awesome. I have another question. Listen, we know Gabby Thomas, the academic scholar.

We know Gabby Thomas. The job's not finished over in Paris right now, but we know Gabby Thomas, the track superstar. Are there any hobbies or interests you do outside of track and field that we don't know about that you enjoy? Other than volunteering,

yeah, I have a dog. I love my dog. That's actually my baby. He's a pug. And I mean, I just love spending time with him. We go on walks. We go to the park.

We go to the lake. Austin is such an outdoorsy town or, you know, kind of small city. And so I just like to be outside, you know, hang out with my friends. I really have a very, very normal life, like a very simple, difficult, simple life outside of track and school and whatnot.

Yeah. But can I ask you this? What's the biggest difference between running professionally and running collegially? Because you're not running for books now. Now you're running. This is how you pay bills. This is how you get that car. This is how you keep a roof over your head. Right. That's exactly right. I mean, okay. The biggest actual main difference is like the recovery. You have to rest. So for me, I think that was the hardest transition. It's saying no to your friends to do things all the time. Like you can't go to these dinners. You can't go to these parties. And that's the commitment you have to make to get to this moment, to be a gold medalist. That's the hardest pill to swallow.

I think because it's easy to say, but in practice, it's very hard. And also dealing with pressure. Like I said before, when you're in college, you're running so many races. You have a team that'll just kind of be there for you. And if you lose, it's not the end of the world. But if you lose on a pro level, it really can be the end of the world. So it's like, that's paying your bills. You're going to have to go figure something else out if you lose races. And so it's like, whoever can deal with that. If you can't deal with it, you're You're going to have to go figure something else out if you lose races. And so it's like,

whoever can deal with that, if you can't deal with it, you're just not going to have a career. But if you can, then, then you will. Can you handicap the 200 meters? Uh,

we got no allows who's the American record holder. He's the three-time world champ. Uh, we got to Bogo and to Bogo is nothing to sneeze at. He's run nine, eight, two and a hundred meters. He's run 1950 in the 200 meters.'s run 9.82 in the 100 meters. He's run 19.50 in the 200 meters.

And he went low 44 in the 400 meters. So he has the speed and he has the strength to really stand toe-to-toe. We got Kenny Benerick. We got Arian Knighton. You can't count out Tyson DeGrasse from Canada. Handicap the 200 meters for us. Oh, I am so excited for this race. Look, you

said it best. I mean, to Bogo, you cannot count him out. He has shown incredible fitness this season, and he has stayed committed. I mean, his 400 strength looks incredible. Arian is just a young prodigy. He's incredible. Kenny shows up, and Kenny is very talented. He's

looked really good through the semis. I don't want to be biased, but Noah really inspired me with that 100. He showed us that he will figure out how to win, and I love to see that. That's the best thing about athletes. You figure out how to win.

This is his bread and butter. Noah looks amazing. He looks amazing he looks amazing i cannot imagine losing a race but i mean we're gonna have to see they all look so good because it comes down to that moment who can handle that moment who can who can be exactly their best self in the moment because it doesn't matter exactly race tomorrow and somebody else might win race next week on the circuit and somebody else might win. But today. Exactly. They're all capable of having that gold

medal. Every single one of them in that final can have a gold medal in the Olympic 200. When you look back when it's all said and done, what legacy do you hope to leave both on the track and off the track?

I hope to leave a legacy of giving back to your community for one. I think that is one of the best things you can do. And that's kind of what I was raised on is how can you give back to society in a meaningful way, a legacy of showing that if you work hard, you will be successful and be kind to people. I mean, those three things right there and, and you're hard, you will be successful and be kind to people. I mean, those three things right there and you're good. You will be successful.

I want the younger generation to see that. Are there any more world records that the Americans can get? Will you guys challenge that 40.82 that the women ran in Beijing? Is that possible? Can we see Sid and Femme Cabal lower that 50.65 in the 400 meter hurdles for the women?

Will we see Carson Warhol, Rob Benjamin? You have Alison Dos Santos. We have Samba from Qatar. Will we see anybody go up on the world record in any of the remaining sprints? American. I think so. I think I think definitely. I think y'all are going to have to open up your wallets a little bit because I do think we're going to see a couple of directors coming out. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're spending our money, Gabby. I hate to say it, but I do think

the 4x1 girls, we can definitely challenge the world record. The previous world record team, they spoke to us just last week about it, and I think we are very capable. And the hurdles, yeah, it's a wrap it's a wrap tonight I don't know if it's going to be Shemka or Sydney but

I think it'll definitely go down somebody's going to have to run low if Shemka beats Sid she's going to have to go low 50 maybe even sub 50 Sydney is in great I'm talking about in great form she's in great shape.

She's a flawless. I mean, she can run. She can run the one. She can run the hurdle for the women and be good. Her technique is so flawless. She has tremendous strength coming into it. That 2207, that's still like what the eighth or ninth best time run at 200 meters. She's run 48, 75 at 400 meters. She probably if you're ready to work at it get a start right she might be sub 11 at 100 meters in order for and i know film kids unbelievable she ran a blistering sub 48 split on the anchor leg we've seen her win the world indoor at 49 17 but see it as a different if she this is an upset i don't care what anybody tells you. If Femme Cabal beats Sidney McLaughlin-Leveroni

in the 400 meters hurdle, this is a huge upset. Ain't happening. Ain't happening. Ain't happening, Captain. No, sir. One thing Sid gonna do, like you said, it's all about moments. And whenever that moment arises,

she shows up good the cape always shows up to the case yeah she has that's one thing bobby the one thing if you go back and study bobby curse's history his runners at big meets they perform if then if they if they line up they run they they run well and so that's not the short change. Femke, because she's been unbelievable. I actually kind of want to see that thing come down in the 400 meters, the 4x4. I want to see it in Femke to get the baton at the same time. And let's see what happens.

Let's see what it's really about. Matter of fact, you know what? My daughter, she's a freshman at University of Kentucky. She runs track at University of Kentucky. If there's anything that you can tell me that I can pass on to my baby to make sure she stays inspired and stays disciplined

is there anything you can tell me that I can pass on to her so she continues to strive for greatness oh man as a collegiate track athlete I would tell her to just really focus on enjoying the process like I think what really makes a track athlete great is that they're enjoying the environment that they're in and that they're just taking in every moment of the process and focusing on getting better. Don't focus on every time. Don't focus on every single race because

you get so many races. Just focus on the overall journey and getting better. And track and field, success is never going to be a straight line. It's always going to have ups and downs. So she just needs to ride it out and enjoy it. And she'll do great. All right. We got you. Got you.

Got you. Thank you. Gabby, us at Nightcap want to say how proud we are of you. I know our fans are very, very proud of you. So because of your huge, big win, Ocho and I will be gifting you $25,000. We have your information, and we're going to get that to you ASAP. So when you get back to the stage side, you definitely have a package courtesy of the back cap. But one thing, wait a minute, but you got to buy McDonald's just once.

You got it. It's a deal. Gabby, congratulations. I'm so happy for you. I'm so proud of you. Good luck in the 4x1 and the 4x4. Tell the ladies good luck. Congratulations. And we'll see you down the road. Wait, wait, wait. And tell Quincy Wilson we're going to race when he gets home, too.

We'll do. We'll do. Well, get some rest. Thank you. Thank you for taking time out of your schedule. I understand you're very busy. Thank you for taking time out of your schedule. I understand you're very busy. Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule. Gabby, giving us a few moments of your time. I'm sure the Nightcap audience, our subscribers, are going to greatly appreciate this interview.

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