Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Warriors beat Rockets on the road In G7, Pacers shock Cavs on the road in Game 1!

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to the Stephen Curry & the Golden State Warriors going on the road to beat Jalen green & the Houston Rockets in game 7 to advance to the 2nd round, the Indiana Pacers go on the road to beat Cleveland Cavaliers in game 1 & we look at the preview of Golden State Warriors vs the Minnesota Timberwolves!01:46 - Introduction04:00 - Rockets v Warriors28:27 - Pacers v Cavs46:51 - Spida55:47 - Ant-Man on the Warriors(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Volume Hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome to another episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us. As the Golden State Warriors warriors the number 7 seed take down the number 2 seed Houston Rockets by a score of 103 to 89 they go on the road just like they did last time They went won a championship. They went on the road beat Sacramento and Sacramento Steph Curry had 53 it wasn't step this time It was bloody hill, but he got great contributions from Draymond, Jimmy Butler,

and Steph caught fire in the fourth quarter and they win going away 103 to 89. Y'all know me, I am your favorite uncle, Shad and Shark. My partner and co-host, the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree, a pro-buller, an all-pro, that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson, aka Pepe. And also join us to talk about all things basketball from University of Arkansas, Atlanta's own. Number seven, Iso Joe Johnson. Joe, thanks for joining us again. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button.

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He got 16, six, well 16, six and five from Draymond. And he got 22, 10 and seven from Steph. But Buddy Hill was what put him over the top. And you know, when you go on the road, Joe, and you get another that chips in and he does more than what you expect. You're probably gonna win that game unless the star you know one of your big guns just totally missed fire but they got 33 and you see Buddy had it going early 12 of 15, 9 of 11, 33

big points he's plus 17 and then Steph caught fire in that second half, Maylan the fourth he had 22, 10 and seven. Jimmy Butler with Jimmy Butler, 28 and seven. And Draymond was 16, six and five. What did you like about what you saw from Golden State, Joe? Man, Golden State, they showed their championship pedigree on the old show. This was about game seven on the road,

playing in a hostile environment, understanding what's their state. And Steph pretty much, he struggled pretty much the first half, but I thought Draymond got him off to a decent start because he had two threes in that first quarter and got him a layup, so they kind of got him going. I feel like any points you get from him for real, I'm like, that's like a bonus. It's a bonus. I was thinking like, okay, Draymond,

I might win this game for him tonight. If he gets about 22 points, I say, he might win this game for him tonight. But as the time goes, Buddy Hill, man, he changed the whole game. The man didn't even score last game, Ojo. Yeah. The man-

He got great cardio in. The man was at home in in Golden State didn't score He come on the road be 22 points in the first half, bro Man, those are the type of guys that we talked about the others that got a win you games and he stepped up to tonight in This game seven and I'm in a must-win situation and game his best performance Yeah, yeah, he scored as Joe Yeah. Yeah. He scored as Joe said Ocho he scored zero points the last game. The game before that he only had four points. So he hadn't been he hadn't done much he didn't do much in games five and six.

He tied the record for the most three-pointers in a game style in NBA history. Buddy Hill three-point field goals in the first half he had six. The Rockets had two. I Thought the Rockets I didn't like their body language early on in a game seven. They're gonna let you play Yeah, they let you play in the playoffs to begin with They're definitely gonna let you play and you look at shingles body language when they didn't throw in the ball He's sluping his shoulders. I didn't like the body language from the jump. Yeah, missing shots and he had some very makeable shots I mean he's point blank right point blank range and he was misfiring Yeah, so that's you bro. You can't get mad cuz you look you make it seem like you got magic Johnson on your team

And he gonna see you every time you pop open. It's not like that Fred Fred You know, he got caught fire a little bit in the first and second half mainly the fourth quarter But he didn't really do a whole lot. He, when they win, he's like 24, 25, you know what I'm saying? Joe, he's getting that three point ball going early, but they got eight points from Dillon Brooks. They got eight points from Jaylen Green. Jaylen Green is too talented to have games like this. And he's been doing this and I know I'm going to let you chime in this.

And I know you like him because he's immensely talented. But Joe, far too many games in these games. And they had seven games. I saw far too many fours and eights from Draelyn Green. Go ahead, Ojo. Hey, listen, I enjoyed the game. I think the Rockets did a very good job of trapping Steph, playing consistent defense on him, which is why I think he struggled a little bit in the first half. Obviously, if you look at the points, he finished with 22, but he kind of struggled the first half of the game. You need a game like this from Buddy is why I think he struggled a little bit in the first half. Obviously if you look at the points he finished with 22 but he kind of struggled the first the first half of the game. He needed a game like this from Buddy Hill. I think Buddy Hill actually saved the day.

Listen the Warriors big three they combined for 58 points, 24 rebounds, 20 assists and they did a little bit of everything. Draymond did what he did. He knew Jimmy Butler was going to show up but for Steph to have a game like he did I thought he was going to come out and go for 40 or 50 tonight. That's what I thought he was going to do based on his performance last time. But Buddy Hill, say today, like you said, he was 9-11 from behind in the arc. He had 33. And I think he's the reason they won game seven. Obviously the Rockets didn't help themselves with the way they played and their body language. They had a decent output and performance from most of their players, but it wasn't enough.

I think a game like tonight, you would have needed Jalen Green to step up and be the player that I think, and other people know he can be, but such low output offensively, it's not gonna win you many game sevens. Hey, they would, go ahead, Joe, but to kind of piggyback on what y'all saying

about Jalen Green, man, it's like when you watch the games, it's like if it's not a three-pointer, it's something that's forced at the basket, right? Yeah. Where's the middies at? Where's the mid-range game at? Like, we have to have that, man. I know analytics have kind of took it out the game, but in the playoff, the game slows down. There's not as many possessions only that you have during the regular season,

so you have to value those possessions, that you have during the regular season. So you have to value those possessions and you want to get great shots every time down the floor. So I think for me, it's just like him getting in the lab, man, and really working on his mid-post, you know, his mid-range game to the point to where you can give him the ball and he can get you a bucket or he can raise up and shoot that mini bro like you can't just live and die from the three right then think okay my three ball ain't working let me force something to the cup cuz now you're all out of rhythm I think you gotta have a mid-range game it's just a lost art in today's game yeah if you look at what Golden State was prepared for that trap

if you notice they hit them they hit they, they hit the mid, they swung the ball, wide over three to Buddy Hill. Or they come to pick and roll, and then you got Buddy Hill wide open for the three. You got Jimmy Butler, you got this guy. So they were prepared this time. I thought, for me, I thought they went to the big lineup a little bit too soon.

They went with Shungoon and Adams a little bit too soon. And they were ready for it this time around. It didn't surprise them. And that's what happens. Yeah, they went with Shungoon and Adams a little bit too soon. Yeah, and they were ready for it this time around It didn't surprise them right and and that's what you did. That's what happens. It's kind of like go up Who's that the Clippers? You remember Clippers went they inserted Nicholas Matoona? Yeah, and it called the it called the Nuggets off guard when they tried to go to another switch lineup Nuggets say we got some for y'all at this time around Run it back

Right. Oh, okay. We got something for you I thought think about it Run it back. Oh, okay. We got something for you. I thought, think about it. They go on the road in a hostile environment and they only turn the ball over seven times. So they value the ball because you know, you have to value every possession matters. Because as Joe said,

you're not gonna get as many as you normally, it's not gonna be as up and down. So you would have to get a lot of your points in the half court set. Cause teams are not gonna let you run out and get 50, you know, 50 transition, you know, 34 transition points. It's not going to happen.

I thought Golden State did a great job of swinging the ball. You look at Draymond has five assists. Jimmy Butler has seven assists. Steph has seven assists. Okay. So everybody's making an extra pass. Everybody's doing what they're supposed to do. Okay, I can live with that.

Because they didn't get anything from the bench, and it's not like Houston got a whole lot from their bench. Go to state bench gave them three points. Kavon Looney had a field goal and a free throw. But Jabari Smith, Easton, and Steven Adams, they only gave you 11 points. That's not enough. Especially when you get the output that you got from Buddy Hill.

Steph Curry and Jimmy, they gave you 72 points. Yeah. No, I mean, they gave you 75 points. Yes. Well, your starters don't get nowhere near that, so now your bench is going to have to come in and give you production. Yeah. I think the only guy for me that I was really impressed with the night from the Rockets

was Armand Thompson. It looked like he came to play until he tweaked that calf and he kind of wasn't the same guy on that, you know, got had that layup and he got fouled. But he was 24, nine, three assists, three steal on a block. But the rest of the guys, I didn't like their body language from the jump, Joe. Oh Joe, I didn't like their body language.

I saw a lot of this, a lot of that. And that's not what you need in a game seven. You need everybody to be upbeat. Bro, what you thought? You gonna make your first 14 shots? Right, right, right. It's tough, man, it's tough. I love Thompson, I love his game.

I love the energy and effort that he played with throughout this whole entire series, attacking, and the defense that he played on Steph Curry. But for me, man, I think Steph was probably the biggest key tonight. If y'all really watch that first half, watch how he gave himself up and was setting picks for Buddy Hill. And Buddy Hill was getting wide open shots. They kind of got rhythm. So that's why I said that championship pedigree, it came through in game seven for them It's unfortunate for the Rockets they're a young team But I think this is this is probably good for them to kind of go through this. Okay, oh Joe, you know

I'm yeah, you know, they gotta get they gotta get a guy I know you they got you they gotta get a guy Joe that they can give the ball to they don't have anybody Yeah, they can give the ball to say go get me a buddy. That's why I'm telling That's why I'm saying Jaylin Green has to develop into that guy. Uncle Ojo. That's who. See I told you. You gotta be him. See I told you. I told you uncle I said that the other night. I said Jalen Green based on what I've seen the potential that he has. Young Bull getting the lab and can add some more to the toolbox. He gonna be alright. Well I know a guy that can do that right now. Kevin Durant. Yeah. Go get him.

If you got draft capital, I'll package, hey, I'll package to have Shungoon and to have Thompson and to have KD. I'm good, I'll package Jalen Green. I'll let Jalen Green go. Yeah, Uncle, you ain't even let the man develop yet. Joe, what would you do, Joe? Nah, right now, you talking about winning? Yeah, I'm doing that too. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. You know back in the day, uh, then they, okay, you got a three, a projection.

Yeah. Here's our pie chart and hit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, Ocho. I'm saying that because if we looking at it from that standpoint, right? No, I want guys who can affect the game if they not score and you still got Dillon Brooks who gonna affect the game He don't have to score a lot, but you know I have be he gonna have some decent nights and then you got Thompson who you know, basically whatever he you know He's gonna he's gonna be a project and I think the sky's the limit for him as far as potential and what he could be. You know what I mean? And you talking about adding KD to that? Yeah, yeah. Add KD with Shungoon. You got a guy that's down on the block that can rebound. He can run your offense.

KD, he plays without the ball. But in a tough situation, you can give him the ball. You can put his back to the basket and you give him the ball, you can put it back to the basket, and you can give him the ball, and he can shoot that turnaround. They don't have a guy right now. They're by committee. And there are a lot of teams like that. There is nothing wrong with that. But when you run up against a team,

and they have that guy, then they can go give him the ball, and say, okay, go get me a bucket. I just, like I said, I think that's what the Rockets need. I mean, this was a two seed. I mean, but I think the Warriors were favorite. The Warriors were favorite to win this series. They're the seventh seed. The Rockets are the two seed.

And there's why guys that have been in game seven, Draymond, Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry. So they know what it's like to be in that moment. These guys, these guys are young. They don't know what that pressure's like. Even though you're at home, you don't understand. It's the finality of this. And. And that moment you look at the, how free they were and how they well they played. And then you look at the guys,

I thought they were tight and it showed in their body language early because when you tight, you get frustrated at least thing. Man, throw me the ball. We just two minutes at the game. We got 46 more minutes to go. I'm going to get it to you. And unless you know how important this game was, Steph Curry played 46 minutes. Yeah. Jimmy Butler played 45 minutes.

Dreymon played 40 minutes. Bozemsky played 40 minutes. Steph don't normally play no 46 minutes. They understood the moment. They understood the moment and they took advantage of a young team, a young, inexperienced team, and they knew it from the jump. They were... Yes. And they came out and showed why in game one. And, you know, they had their struggles, but I can't understand how the Rockets play so great like that in game six.

And game five and six, and then they lose. I'm like... I just knew they was going to come out with the energy and effort and like, okay, we got a chance. Yeah, they look completely different. You know what happens sometimes, Joe? I think teams fall in love with this game, and we got it on our home court. You relax. Okay. But hey, because the longer that visiting team can keep that crowd suppressed, the harder it is for you to use momentum to get back into the ball game. We saw that with Indiana with the Knicks last year. Yeah.

Yeah. So you better, you better, you better, you better, give the fans something to cheer about. Keep them on their feet. You fall, you end up dropping down by 13, you drop down by 14, 15. What I'm cheering for, you make a basket. You still 12. Yeah

Right, right. I've been there. I know the feeling I'm talking about Steph Curry. Yeah, my bad. Go ahead. Go ahead Oh, yeah I will say Steph Curry and Dreymon are the first pair of teammates in NBA history with 10 5-5 and two blocks in the same game 7 Steph and the Warriors eliminated Rockets again Houston has failed to beat Golden State in the playoffs for the fifth time since 2015. The Warriors eliminated the Rockets in 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, and 2025. They closed out the last three of those in Houston. In game 7 in 2018, they closed them out.

In game 6 in 2019 2019 game 7 in 2025 a decade straight of owning a franchise a city and a fan base and You know, we talked you were known here last night some of those game 7s And little game 6 is who's on that team mojo We talked about last night. Remember how he didn't show up last night for the Calipers? Oh, you talking about the beard? Oh, oh yeah, yeah, the beard, yeah. Yeah, but listen, listen, he didn't have a good game scoring, but young Bull was facilitating

that thing like a shit, man. They need more than that, because the only guy you're going gonna get points from is Kawhi that you can count on. Hell, what about that game six? He facilitated and scored. He gave you a level to six and he still gave you 24 points. I think especially last night's game for the Clevers, I think James has to come in with a mindset. Instead of getting everybody else acclimated, allowing them to get find their rhythm. He got to be aggressive. He got to be, he got to be aggressive. But being a point guard, obviously for your first order of business is to

get everybody else going. And then, you know what? I can get mine on my own when I need to. He's not one of those, he's, but see, you're thinking of a prototypical point guard. He's a scoring point guard. That's what a true point guard to get everybody involved, don't average 37 in a game in a four season. You don't have 35 straight games of 30 plus points if you ain't a prototypical Maggie Johnson, John Stockton, Jason Kidd type point guard. That's not what James Harden is.

That's not what he's ever been. He's one of the greatest ISO players that we've seen in this game. His game is predicated on scoring. Yes, he can get triple doubles. He has a 60 point triple double. Yes, but James Hard can put the ball in the basket as good as anybody.

And that's what they needed from him last night and they didn't get it. And so that's what got them to get opportunity to go back to the Nuggets because he and Kwak gave you scores and he facilitated. Plus you pictured putting normal Powell in there that got he played sensational in game six. But I think the thing is, but we've seen far too many games, Ocho. Like this from James in a game seven. Remember what happened in Philly? When the Celtics came in and they had like nine points?

You put the, oh you, oh. In 2023 as a member of the 76ers, game seven loss, he had played 41, he had five, he had nine points, seven assists, six rebounds, five turnovers in 41 minutes on 3-11. 2024, the Clippers, he finished with 16.7 rebounds on 5-16. Shooting, 43 minutes and a loss to the Dallas Mavericks

in game six in the first round. The Brooklyn Nets, 20-21, he was 5-17 from the field. 2-12 from the three in the game seven loss. He did have 22 points, but it took him 17 shots to get it. He had 14 points six 2015 and that loss is that the one he said the NBA record for turnovers He had 12 turnovers on two of 11 shooting from the floor 14 points sick. Yeah, I guess the warrior NBA record. Oh Joe in turnovers. Yeah

2017 Rockets finished with the game 7-0 That's when they didn't play though. Although that's what That's when they didn't play, oh, that's when they didn't play Kawhi. Kawhi didn't play in that game. Remember Kawhi was hurt and he didn't play. And they got beat by like 30. Hard had 10.7 to six turnovers on two of 11 shooting. And that's the thing, don't deny it, he's an MVP. He's a 75, one of the 75 greatest players

to ever play in NBA. But it's moments like this, Ocho, that really separate. You go back and look at the greats and it's moments like this. The Jordans, the Cobies, the Shacks, the LeBron, the Birds, the Magics. This, this, game seven, all the chips. Hey, I'm going all in, Ocho. What you got? I'm going all in too.

All right? Yeah. Card's going money hunting. Hey, he seemed, it seemed to me that he got worn down. Even when you, even when you're running them numbers down, it's like, you know, in a series, you know, the opposing team, their job is obviously to oppose their will. And if your best player or one of your best players, you want to try to wear him down throughout the series,

are you going to really stop him? Not really. You just trying to hope to contain him. And it seems like James, when he gets to those late game sevens, grueling series, like even other night, he looked out of gas. He looked like he didn't have that pump. He didn't have that burst because I was thinking, yeah other night, he looked out of gas. He looked like he didn't have that pop. He didn't have that burst. Because I was thinking, yeah, man, the Clippers need James to come through

with about 25, 30 points a night for them to win. And it just never, it seemed like he never had the energy to really just, to really put a step on the game like we know he can, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think he was aggressive enough either. Because you know, when James Harden, that his absolute best James Harden is getting it To the rim. Yeah, he's getting to the rim and he's getting filed. Yeah, he didn't get there nearly enough It's like

You know, they take him out the game when he runs picking roles It's like he'll give it up and he just be chilling like, you know, like yeah and then and then he tried to get back in But it's like he can never get involved or get himself engaged enough to really put his stamp on the game. And I was watching, I seen him, you know, I seen him multiple times just trying, but it just seemed like it wasn't there. Yeah, I think the thing is for, for James is the most important thing for James is to get James going, get James going first. And then you can, cause now once you get James going, when they come, can, hey, because not once you get James going when they come,

now you can give it up and you're giving Norman Powell easy shots. Not other guys. Zubox are getting easy shots. But when you try to get everybody else going, now it's hard. Now you're out of rhythm. And you don't have the rhythm that you need in order to get to your flow game, finish at the rim, and shoot that step back three. So if you don't, look, who am I to tell James Harden? He's the MVP. He's the guy that's been the, the all NBA selection of 10, 11 time, uh, all star. Yeah. But yesterday when they need, when what they needed James Harden, they need a game six James Harden.

Yeah. That's what they needed. They needed, needed somebody to go along with Kawhi and they didn't have that yesterday. You know, there has been a debate you know um D Wade or James Harden. It's hard for me to pick Harden over D Wade because I've seen D Wade and all you got to do is go back and look at that uh that first championship. Yeah. Those four games that D Wade played it's hard for you to say anybody has played better in a four game stretch in NBA finals history. Right, right.

Don't make a look at O.G.A. Boat. I mean he averaged 36 for the series. He was special man. He was special. He was his own one. Yeah. I mean the funny thing, you know, comparison, I always say this comparison is a thief of

joy, especially when it's coming to comparing players. And the first thing obviously D Wade, that stretch he had in that series, I was able to see that live. I went to a few of those games. I was there myself also. But the first thing, you know, D-Wade got three rings too now. D-Wade got three rings. So really doing a comparison,

I don't think it takes away from James Harden's greatness. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's still great. Yeah, absolutely. But just when it matters most for him, for, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's still great. Yeah, absolutely, but just when it matters most for him for some reason in those game sevens, he just hadn't showed up and it's something that's happened time and time again.

And that there must be something to it about, obviously like Joe said, maybe he's worn down when it gets late into the series like that and he's not really the James Harden we used to see him. Yeah, I think, cause in the playoffs, I'll get Ocho, y'all know, man, listen, that's some tough basketball, y'all see the injuries, you see how physical the game is.

Yeah. Off ball, even if you ain't got the ball, it's bumping, grinding, like it's taxing on the body, you know, that's every other night in the NBA. So I think after a while you take enough of them, you know, it's bound to wear you down a little bit. Yeah. -♪ MUSIC PLAYING. -♪

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I agreed, you. I just... I knew this game seven for the Clippers, I knew it was gonna be predicated on James Harden, because I know what I'm gonna get from Kawhi. Kawhi's gonna give me somewhere between 22 and 28. Probably gonna give us about seven rebounds, probably about five or six. because I know what I'm going to get from Kawhi. Kawhi's going to give me somewhere between 22 and 28. Probably going to give us about seven rebounds, probably about five or six.

So I already know what I'm going to get from him. Now, who's going to be the other guy and the third guy? Because you normally need like two guys for sure and possibly a third guy. When you go on the road for game seven, you see that you got with the Golden State Warriors, you get Buddy give you 33 and you get Jimmy give you what he gave you and then you get Steph. Yeah, that's how you have to do it. So I was counting on Kawhi and James and then okay, where you gonna get other points from? Is it gonna be Norman Powell? Who's gonna chip in? Is it gonna be Zubats give us one of those games? Where he give us 20 and 14?

Who's gonna be the third option? Well, there was no third option yesterday. It was just one option and that wasn't nearly enough. The Indiana Pacers go on the road. Woof! And they beat the number one seed, 121 to 112. And again, it's by committee, because you know why? They had six guys in double figures.

Pascal Siakam, 17 points. Aaron Neesmith, 17 points. Miles Turner, 13 and 11. Nimhar, 23. Halliburton, 22 and 13. And Matheran, 11. That's how Indiana, see Indiana, look, make amiss, Indiana trying to push tempo.

I don't care if they say we'll take it out of there and run, or you would get it off the glass and run But we trying to run. Yeah straight try it's gonna be high pace and Cleveland man, this is a tough matchup for Cleveland. Okay, Ocho Garland they did their all-star guard ain't it's not playing in the lineup I know Donovan had what 33 tonight, but he took 30 shots to get Inefficient that's not good enough and one from 11 from three. Yeah, it's gonna be hard for them to win But I thought they scored enough. I just don't they can't stop in the air

Indiana when you look at them heart and they Smith the two guys in the star lineup who are very great complementary pieces to Hallenberg Turner's, and Pascals Siakam They were huge tonight. They played they both played big they both were super efficient and they gritty players Bro, they gritty players to where you know, they gonna get the job done on both ends of the floor Oh Joe, they gonna make seconds. They gonna sit out in that chair They gonna guard and they gonna cause. And I thought tonight those two alone pretty much won them the game.

Yeah, most definitely. Listen, Indiana shot impressive, especially from behind the arc joke. And them boy was 53% from three. That goddamn Nimhar, he was five or six from three. And the goddamn, the Cav struggle from, you know, from a three point range, they were number 24%. Yeah, that boy Nimhar was making big. Oh yeah, he was letting it fly.

He was five or six. Meese Smith was four or six. Big shots though, big shots. They were. Yeah. Some big shots down the stretch. And you think about it, they had a big lead, and then Cleveland culled it, and Cleveland got the lead, took the lead by like three.

They didn't pan it. Because a lot of times, you know, you have a big lead like that, you're on the road, Joe, and the home team come back, you pan it like, aw, we let one, they say, no, nope, nope. Mim Hart hit a big three. He comes back down and hit another big three. Like I said, the pacers are by committee.

They might not have a guy that with 40, but they're gonna have a bunch of teams. They have a bunch of, you know, hey, they're gonna have a bunch of teams going on. 17, 17, 13, that's how they beat you. They're gonna push pace. Halliburton looking to get the ball ahead quick. Because they give it to him, and they say,

you know, he's got the ball ahead to see how come he laying it up. Or OB topping. Because they got guys that can run the floor Yeah, how long how long gonna run the floor? Yeah, these myths are gonna run the floor Turner who's a big will run the floor Yeah, and so when you got guys that will run the floor Halliburton is gonna find you. Mm-hmm. Hey 13 assists with one turnover. Yeah, how long how long how long you think Garland out? 13 assists with one turnover. Yeah.

How long you think Garland out? Hell, he been out for a minute. Yeah. No chance of him coming back. I still think- I don't know if they can win this series without Garland. Because they have to get that big, big, big- Because where else are you gonna get the score from?

Where is you gonna get the score from? That's exactly what I was gonna say. Now, I thought Mobley played well. Yeah, Mobley was balling, especially on defense. But I need more than 13 shots. See, I need five of those shots that Mitchell took. I need those to go to every Mowgli. I mean, 13, you got 33. I mean, you look at the stat line and say, oh, man, he did have 33. Right. He took him 30 shots. Right. Yeah. Yeah. With 30 shots, well, you both, you need to have 42, 45.

Yeah. No, but no more. Times your own kid coming off the bench, he got up 20 shots off the bench But you know in his defense without Garland out there they need somebody else to no apply pressure He's had some big games throughout the season. Oh every Mobley. Yeah, he got a we got to be more assertive You got to search yourself a little more, but I'm gonna tell you Indiana with with mattering Yeah, but it back with TJ McCollum coming off the bench I like yeah, the energy that they bring when they come into the game So I do think this is gonna be a tough tough series for Cleveland

I'm saying Indiana they they got a great chance of winning this 20 shots in 29 minutes We've got 20 shots in 29 minutes I hear everybody tone is changing because when I am when I when I asked y'all before by this series Both of y'all picked the Cavs to win it. I thought Garland was gonna be playing old Joe. Okay. Okay I know Garland was out. I know all that So on who you got you I mean they based on what you saw tonight from the paces you still got I don't know. I don't know if they can win an old show without Garland. Okay.

I mean you gonna be down one all-star and beat a team like this? Yeah. I'm just making sure. Because they're not dependent on any one guy. Right. So you don't know who's gonna be your leading scorer from night to night. So who do I kill? Do I get Halliburton?

Do I get Millhardt? Do I get Turner? Turner could easily have 23-25 points. Neesmeyer, Siakam. So it's so hard. Yeah, we want a guy that can close, 25 points. Neesville, Siakam. So it's so hard. Yeah, we want a guy that can close, but in a series like this, one team is down there all stark,

and we seem to be clicking on all cylinders as we started. It's gonna be awful hard to overcome. And, you know, Hunter, I would like to see Hunter get up more shots. Bro, you got eight, he ain't get up with eight shots. He was in the running for six, he should have been in the running for six man of the year. I agree with you on that. I need Hunter to be way more aggressive. Like, you know, he's

the one guy I think who can make a huge difference in a series, you know, just by his mindset alone. He got to turn it on a little bit, especially if Garland ain't gonna be around. Donovan Moakley, they gonna need that third guy and he needs to be that guy who can step up and really get him over the top. Halliburton is the snake though, he's the head. When he's putting pressure on you, getting that ball, he's pushing.

He's pushing the pace and those guys are getting out running lane. They gonna get some easy buckets They're gonna get the ball in the paint because he's gonna push tempo. So you are there celebrate you doing this? Hey, hey Joe, you're doing this right here. Are you doing you doing all this right there? They laid the ball up on the Right. You're right. Yeah, he's he's definitely had a snake if he's playing Well, they always got a great chance of winning You know, I mean?

Like, I don't like if he, you know, the numbers. Sometimes he get two passes. Sometimes he like, nah, bro, nah, I need you in score mode. I think he's kind of learned that over the years playing these playoffs too. I think he understands, like, he has to assert himself more by getting in the paint, creating habits, shooting his floater, you know, diving his bigs, but he has to score in order for them to be effective. Now I ain't saying he gotta score big numbers like 30, 35,

but when he's playing efficient like this, he's always gonna manage the game and keep him in a great place because he's not a high turnover guy. He's gonna always take care of the rock and in the playoffs, that's what you need. You want a guy who's really gonna value the rock, especially in these, you know, these trying tough situations,

especially when coming down the stretch. Keep you out of your luggage. Yes, sir. Hey, in order for the cast, I'm saying if Garland doesn't play, if Garland doesn't play, obviously Mitchell has to do everything he can. Everything has to start with him. Mowgli has to contribute and the third guy whoever's going to be, he just got to go. Whoever needs to talk to them

they got to give him the green light to let him shoot. Let him shoot that wheel so he can get some points. The Cavs gonna have to adjust their perimeter defense to counter the Pacers three-point shooting. And you got to get back in transition. Because when you watch the Pacers play, I've been watching the Pacers all season long, it's like a four by one team. They're like four by one.

Boy, they down and back, down and back, down and back. What's the thing is, Ocho, you playing with two bigs, though. When you play, now the bigs, they gonna give you second chance opportunities. They can protect the paint. Every mobile defensive player of the year opportunities. They can protect the paint. Every mobile defensive player of the year. Jared Allen can protect the paint. But the thing is, when you miss it, you push.

Now them big guys, they're tailing on the back. And now you got nobody to protect the front end of the rim on the transition. Yeah. They need more from Struz and Merrill. Merrill, I mean, you know, you got seven to six points. That ain't nearly enough. That's not nearly enough. I get Ty Jerome, you know, you got 76 points. That ain't nearly enough. That's not nearly enough.

I get Ty Jerome, you know, I get him at six man, but 20 shots, and Mobley only got 13? Nah, no, we gotta get Hunter. We gotta get Hunter on the ball. Yeah, Hunter need to be 13. I wouldn't, you might even have to put him in the line up, in the starting lineup. I know they bring him off the bench

because they want that, you know, they want that pop off the bench. We put him in the starting lineup, in the starting line up. I know they bring him off the bench because they want that, you know, they want. They want that pop off the bench. We put him in the starting line up, where are we going to get points off the bench from now? Right, right, absolutely. But, hey man, listen, hold on, we got to, he got to get more touches.

Eight shots ain't enough on the old Joe. We got to find a package for him, for sure. Oh, I agree. I totally agree with you. Uh It's sound bite from Hallie after the game today is going viral being a point guard is like being a mom your job is to Take care of everybody. It is you It is it is yeah, that's the heart but hey, hey, but you know what? Hey, but moms got to eat too now Right, you know I'm saying

Mom prepared, but don't think mom ain't gonna play right? After after you know after after mama feed the kids. That's our time to eat Yeah, and listen, you know, that's basically basically that's that was basically hard to post to the game the game seven I'm a feeder. I'm a feeder everybody else and at some point I'm gonna see if I can get myself in rhythm. Right. Yeah, to what today, in today's game if you at the point guard position, you got to be able to score that thing, distribute it. You got to. You got to.

There's no room for you. Like if you can't score the ball and make plays, it's gonna be hard. Because you're a liability out there because they're gonna slump off you. There we go. Vicki, you can't let them play four on five. Yeah, nah. That's really why it's so hard for Ben Simmons to ever get back.

Because everybody knows that he can't do anything but assist and play defense, but it's not nearly enough to offset what the lack he gives you on the offensive end. Yeah. So that's why you can only play him seven, eight minutes a game, Ocho, because on the offensive end, he ain't give you nothing.

He ain't even looking at the basket. Nah, he not looking at the basket, but I can remove the basket. I think he, I can take the basket down and put it down there, he'll never know it. I think he better suit it at like the fourth position, maybe even the five position nowadays, because the guys are so small, and his rebounding ability and pushing the rock and making plays

With guys out of the round him who can shoot and score is best suited for him But yeah, I think he lost some confidence bro back. Oh, yeah, it's going I'm talking about yes still yes still, you know, he's had times where he's had point blank layups and he won't even shoot all night. And see, you said something, Joe, you said play him at the four, cause he can get the off his, he can get the rebound. He get the off his rebound instead of putting it back up, he looking to pass back out to somebody.

No, you shoot it. Yeah, hey, I, they gotta be, there's a way to instill that confidence back in Young Bull. It is, he gotta get himself around the right people. It's hard, though, Joe. I mean, we see, I don't, you know. It is. He got to get himself around the right people. It's hard, Ocho. I mean, we see, I don't... He got to be right. He got to be around the right people, huh?

When you told me, I'm thinking, I'm thinking Ben Simmons, 6'4", 6'5". You remember how surprised I was when you told me how tall he was? Yeah, he's 6'11". Man, you're supposed to be out there, man, dumbing these dudes. Man, 6'11"? Sometimes, Ocho, it gets between your ears. David Duvall had this happen to him. He developed the yips and he had to leave the tour.

Rick Ankeel, he was a pitcher, but he got the way he couldn't throw it across the plate and they had to move him to the outfield. Chuck Knoblok was a second baseman. He got the way he couldn't throw it to first base. He had to leave. I mean, sometimes, who was that? There was another golfer that had that problem.

And when it goes, it goes, it's gone, don't you? Because once it get in here, I don't care, I don't care, all the physical traits you want. If you ain't got it here, you can't play. Hey, think about this, right? Hey, Joe, think about this. Think about the mentality and approach to the game

And I'm not gonna use Kobe and Jordan I'm gonna use players in today's game think of Ben Simmons had Anthony Edwards mentality Think of Ben Simmons had that mentality like John Maran Just a just a bit of a bit of a Ben Simmons had Anthony Edwards mentality. Yeah, just think about it not personally I'm just saying his mentality when it comes to playing the game of basketball in general No, you can face it NBA Cuz he gonna shoot it. There's not there's not a shot the end can't don't think he can make right, right But the problem with being and I've said this

It's hard for me to see a scenario Joe Where he's put time in the lab because I watch a guy like Austinves, and I watch a guy go undrafted and average five points to not he's averaging 20 points in four years. I watch a guy and Ben Simmons has been rookie of the year and hasn't got any better. So that, something is not transferred. It's hard, Ocho, for you to put, to do something for a period of time and not get incrementally better.

I'm not gonna say that all of a sudden you like start out like this. And then all of a sudden you at all start or you you you're an all NBA player or you're an MVP. Yeah. But I got to see some improvement. Tell me the improvement that you saw from Ben. If you go back and look, his numbers have come down. He came down from his rookie year to when he won rookie when he won a rookie of the year to the other years. So something is a miss.

And I don't know what it is, but I'm telling you, I can teach you to do anything if you're not afraid of doing said thing. You see, I can teach you how to swim if you're not afraid of the water. See, Joe, if you're afraid of the water, I can never teach you how to swim because you're going to fight it. Right. See, Ben Simmons It's not that he can't shoot. He's afraid to shoot right so now. How do I still bro?

It's okay because the first time he air balls and lay on the road what they gonna do. Oh Joe. What are you gonna do Joe? He goes to the free throw line if I follow him he goes to the free throw line He air balls one what he gonna do go He gonna air ball. Now he done. Yeah You're so see He's afraid. Oh Joe some people afraid of having rejection Some people okay, you booze or what? Watch this one. Yeah He can't do that. That's all that's tall mentality right there, too

Yeah, not really not really caring about your surroundings being able to play in chaotic atmospheres Not really caring about your surroundings, being able to play in chaotic atmospheres. Like, I enjoy that. Joe, I'm not sure how you feel about being in chaotic atmospheres. I prefer, when I was, I'm just saying, when I played football, I prefer being awake. I like going to the black hole, huh?

I like going to the Steelers. I like going to the Ravens. I like the fans talking and chirping and talking trash and calling me Ocho Stinko. I like that. For some reason, that gives me like, yeah. I like so just to and chirping and talking trash and calling me Ocho Stinko. I like that Yeah, for some reason that gives me like yeah I like so just just the thought of you even explaining how Ben Simmons is reacting because of a fan

What I'm playing into that I need I need you talking that trash Joe you move that game. They lost the game seven. They lost to Atlanta Yeah, and they had to spend. And they had the trash can going downstream. Yeah. They had the trash can on fire and they had a picture of Ben Simmons, Ben Simmons' face was in it. Yeah.

And you know what? I said, go ahead, Joe. Because I've been in the lab with Ben, working out with him, I worked out with him before, and it's a mental block, man. That man can play, he can shoot the mid-range, he can shoot the three, but I watch him in open runs. When they have them runs and they be showing it,

oh, Joe, he coming out, he's shooting threes, he coming down, he pull up with the middie. He's doing all of the, I see it. Yeah, so that's why it's hard for us as fans when we watch him play. We see we see we see this in the summer We see you working on we see you doing that and it's just rhythm and timing and then when the NBA starts It's like hold on man. Who's this dude? Yeah, you know what I mean? Like he was You know how bad I wanted him to be able to help the Clippers like I felt he could have

Got the Clippers over the top if he just would be aggressive, you know what I mean, drive to the hole, but it's like he don't wanna get fouled, he don't wanna score for some reason, and I think he got the package on the outro, I think he can do it. Yeah, yeah. I think it is a mental block, whether he say or not, but that's kinda what it seems like,

as from a fan perspective when we watch it. We've all been in class with the kid that knows the answer, but sometimes he has a little speech impediment, or he has, you know, he might start fumbling getting it out, and he know the kid's gonna laugh at him. So he just sit there and won't say anything. Right, right. We seen it.

That's Ben. Bro, you the number one overall pick. The number one overall pick in the entire NBA draft. Yeah. Yeah. Kareem was number one. Magic was number one. LeBron was number one. Do we know some of the greats that Ben's Shaq was number one overall? Tim Duncan, David Roberts, and Elijah Wan. Got to be a special talent. He's a special talent.

So clearly you got the ability. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But it doesn't matter. Yeah. It's all right here. Hey, let him come on. Let him come hang out. Let him come hang down here with me for all season.

It's hard, Ocho. You probably should have got him his first to second year. At 10, 11 years in. Ain't nothing going on now, Ocho. It's been 10 years already. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, time. It's time.

Time is only constant. It moves whether you do or not. Hello. Hello. It's not waiting on, it's not waiting on anyone. Right. So it's, I don't know. In a loss today, Spider made some history. The most consecutive game was with 30 or more points.

Donovan Mitchell, eight, 2020 to 2025. Michael Jordan had seven, uh, 97 through 98. He had also had seven between 91 and 93. Michael Jordan had six from 89 to 90. Colby has six. Wilt has six. Alex English, English had five. I mean, Spada could put the ball in the basket.

Now. I mean, he can score that. Anything. And once he get cooking, he can shoot the three, he can get to the rim, he got a middie. I mean, he a three level score. Spada, we go to the free throw line. Got the whole package.

We watched him, excuse me, drop 57 in the bubble. Everybody thought, then him and Murray go back to back. Murray have 50, he have 50. And everybody said, ah, that's just a bubble. We see people doing strange things in the bubble. Yeah. Spada said, y'all really think that? Okay, let me show you.

Man, listen. You know, that's really me. I been there. Hey, Arga Ocho, I was with them as rookie in Utah when they drafted. I was out here there playing and I didn't see this. I'm not gonna tell you no playing and I didn't see this. I'm not going to tell you no lie. I did not see this.

But in talking to our assistant coaches at the time, because they going through summer league with him, he playing summer league. They was like, we are special talent. We got one. I had never seen him play in college. So in the pros, I didn't really know what he could do. And man, he was special, bro.

From the moment he got his opportunity, Quinn put him in the starting lineup, he took full advantage of it, and the man has been going ever since. I look for him to really put his stamp on this series, knowing and understanding that if he ain't got Garland in this series against the Pacers, he's gonna have to step up and be special, you know, throughout the

rest of these games, Ocho. Yeah. You know what I mean? He gonna have to, you know, he gonna have to go vintage. We're gonna need some 45s, maybe even get all of them in there. Like, that's what it's gonna take in order for them to win. Yeah, he could do it too, man. He could put the whole team on his back.

Yeah. He could put the whole team on his back. I've seen him do it a few times. Yeah. I think he got more scores now than what he had than when he was in Utah. Look, Go Bear was the guy that just rebounded the ball. Hey, rebound the ball and handed it to Donovan.

I mean, that's kind of what Jared Allen is basically that. You're not running play for Jared Allen. He's going, know, he's gonna hear law threat. He'll get it back He'll get an offensive rebounds and stuff it back, but I'm not running those set for it. Yeah, right Just like you didn't run sets for Rudy go bear So I think if I think for me if Evan Mobley and Hunter are a little bit more aggressive and get more I mean a hunter for eight shots Mobley Mobley and Hunter had one fewer shot than Ty Jerome.

Yeah. We can't have that, man. We gotta get, we gotta get Hunter to rock, man. We gotta eat. Yes, you got to. So what do you think, I mean, Donovan Mitchell, I mean, that's pretty impressive. Cause Michael Jordan's on here three times,

Kobe's on here, Will, I mean, we don't even say nothing about Will,'s on here three times Kobe's on here will I mean I mean we don't even say nothing about will cuz we'll got regular they go ever ever be broken. Yeah We'll got like five we got like five hundred thirty point game. Yeah, so he got regular they gonna be broken Yeah, you know not even don't get a lot of credit neither man, but he's been so he's been Mr. Consistent He has throughout his whole career. You know what I mean? He's playing the playoffs. He has, he is ranked number nine in Playoff Points history. Like, man, come on.

That man, hey, he, like I say, we gonna need him to step up and put up some big numbers throughout this series if they looking forward to advancing because what is the injury that Garland have? I don't even know the injury. It's his toe, isn't it? I'll see, well it's them lower extremities.

You know they gonna linger, oh Joe. I had turf toe before, I know what that's like. Where? Hey, I got, listen, hey, you know about my remedy, huh? For any lower extremities, I got the remedy for them. Listen, Garland, if you see this, I got some. You don't wanna hear about it, Joe. Hey, Garland, I got something, I have him right. I have I have me back for game two. What you got? Let me hear

Let me see what you got you show Yeah So for me any lower extremity any injuries I might have had during the season Spraying ankle high ankle sprain low ankle sprain grade 3, it doesn't matter, or grade one for that matter. So I would get urine from, if I didn't have enough for me, I get enough from my teammates as well. With great understanding that once you warm the urine up, right, and put enough where you could put your foot in it

and it comes above the ankle, it evaporates the toxins. Listen, listen to me now, stay with me now. The toxins in the urine takes all the swelling out as if you never even sprained the ankle. Now there's a study been done. And matter of fact, it was just on Twitter like two days ago. He doing the studying joke. No, I'm telling you, people in the chat can attest to this

that Jeff saw the guy explain it on what the urine can do for the body And and helping it heal at a magnificent rate that science really doesn't teach you It's a home route in my grandma taught me when I was younger. That's why I played 13 14 years It was no injury Joe. Listen, I did the NFL. I went to Canada. I did one year in Canada in Canada I played in Mexico. I done played all around the world. So and I'm still to this day, I've never been hurt. I mean, I had my heart broken before.

That's about it. Why'd you pee on that? I know, Joe, most people look at it and they'll be like, oh, no, I ain't doing that. But it works. I'm one of them people oh no, I ain't doing that but it works Now I'm one of them people. Oh, no, I ain't doing that. But it works. It worked for me and it can work for you I mean, so, you know, you still do it to this day to keep you going But I don't I don't need to do it now because I'm not really doing anything. I play soccer I play soccer, you know every every every so often with my Jamaican team in Fort Lauderdale, but outside of that

I mean, I'm good. I'm a a Joe. I'm like a coach. I'm out this one. I might be out two weeks. Listen, a Joe, I could have saved on. I could have saved on. He had all these injuries. You remember, remember the board game operation? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's on. He was always hurt.

So I'm going to say that them about it if I was on teammate Well back there they didn't they didn't call the high-angle sprain they just it was just an ankle sprain right, right So hey, I just shot it up and played didn't realize I was doing more damage. Yeah But you know coming in at a low round draft pick. Ohcho, I got to get it. Oh, you got to. Kidding me, I got to get it. If I was the first rounder, I'd have shot my ass down. Cause I know I'm, hey, I know I'm gonna be there. A seventh round draft pick?

Nah, bro, I got to get on out there. Absolutely. I got to get it. So, Donovan Mitchell, most consecutive game one with 30 points or more in NBA history. He now has surpassed Michael Jordan with eight. That's crazy. That's a lot.

An interview has surfaced of Ant-Man saying he wants to face the Warriors in the playoffs. And I want to go get the Warriors wherever they at. I want to get them. Reporter, why the Warriors? And because Drey Mons talks so much trash and that's pretty much the only reason. I like, see man, that's.

Hey, show what you expected. That's what I'm talking about, man. We need more of that. Something everybody likes to just play the game of basketball, but when you bring that entertainment value like that, that makes you want and hope that the Warriors and the Wolves have a series, it's because of somebody like that

that can talk it and they can walk it. It just makes it that much better. That's why I say I would love for him to be the face of the league. No disrespect to Jason Tatum, great player, NBA champion, NBA champion, all-star Olympic team. He has all these accolades, but it just doesn't add up to that aura and it factor that Ann has. Like that's, that's, man. Listen.

Buddy Raw, buddy Raw, man. Hey, hey, for the story, for the story, okay, Ocho, this one here is gonna go down in the books. See, the one team that was at home tonight cheering was the Timberwolves. They were cheering for the Warriors for a number of reasons. They play the Warriors, they get home court advantage. See, the Warriors come to them. But if the Rockets were the one, they would have had to go to Houston. You see what I'm saying? So Timberwolves got home court advantage. They know and understand, you know, the moment and what it presents. And like I say, N-Man got this hit list. He finna add, he got a couple more people he finna add to

this list. He finna add to it? He finna add to it. Hey, when they series start, Joe? It's just, it don't start, probably Tuesday. So look, think about this, Arkay Ocho. Their series gonna start Tuesday. You just coming out for seven game grueling series against the Rockets, probably gonna warrior down

a little bit, the Temple Woods, been at home, kind of resting, they got their feet up a little bit, but they gonna be ready. They probably gonna look a step or two faster than the Warriors on game one. Yeah. Yeah Now watch watch watch Rudy go bear go out there forget how to play basketball. I take him completely out of game Oh, no, this is gonna be WrestleMania. We just talking to be out By we get we get to go yeah, and if it'll be WrestleMania this musty TV We were just talking to Bianca Webb about a week or two ago. Oh man, this is gonna be recimated. This must be TV.

Rudy Gobert and Drake Mon Green. Oh yeah, y'all already know how this thing will go down. Yeah. In a span of 12 months, the Wolves have sent home Kevin Durant, Nicole Jokic, Luca Doncic, and LeBron James. Ant Man is looking to add Steph Curry to his list. Let me ask you a question. How many games? Who wins and in how many games? Ochoa, I'm. Let me ask you a question. How many games?

Who wins and in how many games? Ochoa, I'm gonna start with you. Who wins and how many games? Oh man, this is a good one. Listen, with Anthony Edwards playing the way he's playing, Rudy Garber, if he can have another game, maybe not 27 again, but he contribute on both ends of the court,

giving them second chance points, rebounding defensively. Everyone else contributing as well. I say it's gonna be another seven game series, and I got Ant-Man, I got Ant-Man pulling it off, adding another one to the hit list. What you got, Joe? I don't got no seven game series, I got this,

I got the T-Wolves winning this in about five six games on damn five six Yeah, what's wrong? Yeah, I only only only said the seven because Steph and Draymond and them boys I used to plan in this type of atmosphere So I'm saying they gonna stretch it all the way to seven But if you say five or six, you know better than me cuz you played I just be in the YMCA It's just this is my opinion. Oh, I would be Now, allow me the right to be wrong, all right? Right, right, right, right. But, what I'm saying, in my assessment, I'm thinking of, okay, seven game series.

Butler didn't look like, he didn't look like, he don't look like he moving good, even though he played a decent game tonight, he played a good game tonight. Him and Steph looked like they kind of hobbled and gimballed a little bit. And going into Playing against these T-Walls. They're gonna be ready man. They hungry they ready they sitting and waiting Yeah, it's gonna be like that but because my thing is Who's gonna do who who's guarding you Randall? Right. That's what I want to know

Because if you go big you put Kavon Looney in there to deal with Kavon. Now you mess up your space. Because if you put Looney in there and you have Draymond, you bang with Ju, Ju Randall is a load man. You got to be ready to bang with him. Yeah, it's going to be a tough one, Anki. It's going to be some nose and nose in this series, because Julius Randall. Well, I can definitely see Randall

and Dre by getting into it. You know what's gonna happen? I think one of the weapons for the Warriors, man, they gonna have to try to find a way to get Kaminga back into the fold, because they gonna need him in this series coming up, man. You know, and they kind of, he kind of showed today they kind of need, they needed him early, but I think they're gonna need him throughout this series. You know, he got, he got youth on his side.

Yeah. He's, he's played in big moments. He knows, he knows what the, he knows what, you know, he's capable of doing. I think they need his productivity, you know, especially coming up in this series. He hadn't played in a while. I know they threw him, they've been throwing him out there here and there, but they got to try to find some consistent minutes for him. I like the T-Wolves also, because I don't know when they go to the bench, Nas Reed, who's going to deal with him.

Right. Because not only can he shoot this free and stretch the floor, he can also go down and post. Yeah. So now you gotta think about it. That's Moody, that's Kaminga. That's trying to deal with a big, a big, a true big. Yeah.

And that's why I favor the T-Walls. Because of them big bodies that they have that they can throw at them, they big bodies can score and they can play me. So, and they guards sit down and they play deep McDaniel's It was he Alexander Walker Alexander Walters even yeah, those you know, those are some guys, you know I'm sure when you games throughout a series so I give the T-wolves the edge man I think it's gonna be a fun on the watch

Gary Payton or the second didn't play tonight. He was dealing with a illness He's gonna get a lot of minutes on Ant-Man They're gonna try to wear Ant-Man down. They'll probably have Kamingo deal with him. They have Moody deal with him. They'll have Gary Payton the second deal with him They'll they'll they're gonna try to throw difference because I don't think anybody can stop it You will try to get the ball out his hand wherever you can make somebody else beat you Lakers did that and McDaniels had a great series. Nas read, knocked down some big shots.

Obviously, Ju Ramble gave you what he gave you. Probably averaged 22 and eight for that series. This is gonna be a very, very interesting matchup. It's gonna be a chance. I'ma see how Finch is, what are you gonna do with Steph? How you gonna defend Steph? Because Buddy Hill's like, I'm gonna make y'all pay. Cause y'all make it seem like I can't shoot the three.

Y'all know I can shoot the three. But man, listen, if you don't scratch and gain six, how we expect for you to come out and give a third something and gain seven? Come on, man. Yeah. Come on, how we ain't nobody expect that. Like this man is dope.

He out of, hey, when you hit that shot with that at the end of the half? Yeah. I said, aw man. Yeah. I said, aw man. Hey, it's good, it's things good. You living right, huh? You living, yeah, I said, aw man.

Aw man. Aw man. Hey, for a guy who couldn't make a shot at game six to hit that, like yeah, that's a confidence builder. Hey, listen. So now you know. Yeah, I don't, all right. He had 23 in the first half. He didn't give you none in the confidence builder. So now you know. Yeah, I don't. He had 23 in the first half.

He didn't give you none in the third quarter. I don't think he scored any in the third quarter. Did he score in the third quarter? I think he got his 11 in the fourth. He said he done it. He said, I got y'all this lead. I spotted y'all. So okay, Steph and Jimmy, y'all care is home for me.

Yeah, it's home. I don't know how much the NBA is a copycat league as you watch a series and knowing you, you plan up the following team coming up next, like the NFL is, you see some work on another team and then you just copy that and do the same thing. Well, you know, you know how to slow Steph down, you know, maybe not stopping, but contain them

and just do the same thing the Rockets are doing defensively. The Wolves are capable of doing that. Yeah. They're capable of doing the same thing. I think the Rockets, the Wolves might have better defenders, individual defenders. Right. Jay McDaniels is a better individual defender. So you're saying... Individual defender, I don't think there's really nobody off the dribble that can stay with Steph

regardless, regardless of who it is. No, no, ain't nobody really dealing with nobody one on one. He's the best of the best. Okay, okay. Right, right. You just, you try to make it as tough as possible. So if he gives you 20, if he averages 27, you try to hold him to 23. Right. Or if he gets his 27, you try to make it as inefficient as possible. Possible, right.

But you go out there and say, oh yeah, oh, you average 27, you ain't get but 12 today. Okay, good luck with that. Yeah, okay. Good luck with that. Yeah. No, but I think I think I think T was got to defend this to To to you know wear him down throughout a series, you know, right long-range you guys, you know, yeah Who gonna be pesty pick him up right for it? You know, just don't give him nothing easy man I watch when I'll be watching the game. They take stuff out the game. They'd be playing for a four-to-four Yeah, man be standing in court. He His man don't even be looking at the ball.

But I got the T-Walls and made a young fella legacy continue. I think he's going to be special in this series. I do too. And is a big game performer. I think the best thing that happened to Ant was going to the Olympics and being around KD, being around LeBron, being around Steph Curry, like, okay, I'm where I belong.

Yep, amongstst the graves. Yes. And so how they approach it, how they get themselves prepared, how they go about their business. Now look, he's not going to, that's not what he is. He's not going to be as buttoned up as LeBron and stuff. But you just got to accept it for who he is. That's who he is.

Yeah. And that was, and you heard what you just said Yes, he doesn't have to be his button-up and he refused to be that he's authentic to himself Which is why he's so relatable to everyone else why everybody's gonna be a fan and that way you'd have some people that are Bring up stuff that has nothing to do with on the field and I mean on the field on the court Anthony Edwards but man, I mean on the field, on the court Anthony Edwards. But man, I love and appreciate anybody that remains true to themselves and who they are without conforming to how they think you should be as an NBA player.

Yeah. But no, I don't just necessarily think it's an NBA player because every player is not held to the same standard as LeBron and a Steph Curry. Everybody wasn't held to the standard like Jordan. Everybody wasn't held to the standard like Bird and Magic or Kobe. There's difference. But when they say, okay, when they talk about the NBA and they have these pictures up there and your face is front and center. When the NBA marketing campaign, they want you front and center. It's different now. You got to realize these guys, like those old guys, they got married. They, you know, they, now these guys don't show, they playing video games.

Jordan, they playing no video game. Magic bird. The old guys were playing on their video game, man. These guys now they, they playing card and they playing Fortnite. Okay. Somebody, somebody with a whole different team. Hey, man What's your name? What's your tag? All right, come on check this out. Yeah, it's a different time now And I think we have to change our way of thinking of what the face of the NBA is

Because the old faces those guys aren't like that anymore. No, no He may look whether whether he likes it or not, you know, when you chosen, you chosen, bro. You know? And then you can do about it. In the route that he's taking, whether he likes it or not, he complete this mission right here? Yeah. It's going to happen whether he likes it or not.

And that just comes with the game as part of it, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, look, when you chosen, Joe, you can't run from that. You remember Jonah? God told him, saying that you go, nah, he's like, nah, nah, let somebody else. So what he gonna do? He gonna get the boat and go.

Now, when I said, come here. Now, when he spit his ass back up on the shore, what'd he do? He went and did what Jesus asked him to do, didn't he, old Joe? You see, when you chosen, when that's your calling, you can't run from it. Hey, listen, you might not answer the phone.

It's your call, you might not answer the phone. Don't worry about it. He'll take care of the rest. Yeah, so you can't run from that. I understand, because he's like, man, look, I wanna go, I wanna be free, I wanna do what I wanna do without y'all looking over my shoulder and cameras everywhere I go, because I might might come out a little hole in the wall and you know

Basically the NBA supposed to be at the hole in the wall You know what I'm saying? Joe, you know what I'm saying Joe? Hey, I understand but when the universe pick you baby, they pick you. Yeah Is Ant-Man the best big game player in the NBA currently? Best big game player in the NBA currently? Best big game player in the game currently. Man, we've had some guys play some big games. Yeah, I think, I'll probably give him the nod. I think because he just accepts it, man.

He's a little different than some of the other superstars that we have in the league. And I think that's why people gravitate to the rawness of who he is and how he speaks his mind and how he cares himself and how he talks trash throughout the games. And oh yeah, I'm looking up to anybody. Yeah, I'm looking to play the Warriors.

It don't matter who you are. Hold on, y'all seen what Obama say? He say, look at this guy right here. He can play a little bit. He say, you better stand out, I'm the truth. You talking about stop playing with me. He said, look at this guy right here. He can play a little bit. He said, you better stand out. I'm the truth. Yeah. You talking about stop playing with me. So we love that.

We gravitate toward it. And we all want to see him do good, man, because he has the talent. And night in and night out, bro, he gives us something spectacular. You know what I mean? Because not only can he make the three, he can play above the rim.

You put your ass on the post tonight, you go up there if you want to. Yeah, I'm telling you, you're gonna be on his card. You're gonna be on his card. I think the underrated thing, I think his underrated attribute is his defense. Okay, old joke. Oh, yeah.

I'm saying on any level, whether it's blocking shots, whether it's locking down, playing his one-on-one defense, fighting over picks, like he showed me some of that Laker series, and I was like, yeah, our young fella taking the next step. And that's what it is, playing on both ends, being a two-way superstar. You know what I mean? Not just a two-way player, but he a two-way superstar, because he impacts the game on both ends of the floor. Just like in that last closeout game against the Lakers, he didn't play great offensively, but defensively, he was disruptive. He made plays offensively and he did enough for them to win. It didn't take for him to wow you on the stat sheet.

I think that's the best part when you can tell about a player, when you can find other ways to impact the game, even when you're not doing what you're known for, which is scoring. Can I impact the game with your, if I don't have 10 catches, how's my blocking? How's my decoy? Am I getting out of there making everybody think I'm about to? I'm about to get this rock when I know I'm just clearing for somebody else to run the shallow or to run that deep over, but I need to make sure I get that safety up out of there and pull that linebacker. Is that, is that, is that really? So you got to find other ways to impact the game. Cause sometimes guys only see their value if I'm catching passes, if I'm scoring

points. No, you got to find value in other things also. And that's when you become the greatness. Chad is evenly split on the series. 51% are taking the Warriors, 49% taking the T-Wings. Mm. Well, somebody gonna be wrong. Yeah. Even the 51 of the 49. The Volume.