Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Warriors SEND Clippers HOME + Shannon Gives Kawhi Leonard an “F” with Clippers

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the NBA Play-In Tournament featuring Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors taking on Kawhi Leonard and the Los Angeles Clippers. Later, they debate how they would rate Kawhi's tenure with the Clippers. Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP   Timeline:00:00 - Intro04:36 - Warriors beat Clippers31:56 - Rating Kawhi's Clipper Era (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The game that you just watched, the Warriors beat the Clippers by the score of 126 to 121. Stefan Curry and the Warriors survived and advanced. Steph scored 27 of his 35 points in the second half and with a go-ahead 30-foot three-point shot with 50-point four seconds remaining that gave them a three-point lead that they would not relinquish. The Clippers led for basically the entire of the game. Led by as many, I think it's 12 is one point I looked up and saw. but they were not able to hold it. Big shot after big shot. Like I said, Al Horford was tremendous tonight.

Big shot after big shot. Prozingas was big shot, rebound in the ball, put back dunks, doing a great job. But you know what it was. Steph Curry was Steph Curry. You know, last night, guys, when we say Steph Curry, excuse me, he's going to have more than 26 and a half point.

Everybody in the chat, man, he's been off. He's been off. You should have took the under. I'm not taking it under against that man. He's chef, Steph. the greatest shooter that we've ever seen. And you think he wasn't going to come to play? Yeah.

With all those picks and all that running, he's going to be, you know what I'm saying? I mean, he played 36 minutes. And you're like, well, damn, this man has been off all this time. How is he able to run like that and get shots up like he does? Because Joe, like you said, when shooting free throws, if you're tired, you clanking. This man shoot from 35 and making it after all that running. Joe, what did you like about with the Warriors? How were they able to win this game, considering they were,

down as much as double figures for the entirety of the game, but somehow find a way to stay close and pull it out in the late in the ball game. Man, Argon Ocho, just pedigree of a champion, man. Yeah. Those guys have seen pretty much everything, and they answered the bill. It didn't look good all game. I mean, I thought the clippers had the momentum pretty much the whole entire game until, you know, Steph seemed like he got his second win because it seemed like it took him a little while to kind

get started but once he got it going who we you could not turn them off and we always talk about you know these megastars having great games and they have to bring guys along with them you know our horfer came along for the ride poor zingas came along for the ride pod came along for the ride

they and draymond hell draymond i thought he was the probably the biggest difference especially in that fourth quarter uh the job that he did on kawai that's what you got to talk about kawai is probably going to be a first team all-n-bba selection What he did on Kauai,

Kauai was the night, what, eight of 17, 21 points, 1 of 6 from the 3. He did a tremendous job. Remember, they were about to get a 5 second. He stole the ball. Pott ended up getting an A and 1 because they goaltending. And then he stole the ball again, the next possession now.

Yeah. Drayman was defensively, they did an unbelievable job on Kauai tonight. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah, and you have to have guys, okay, Ocho, who ain't scared to take the challenge? You know what I mean? Yes.

And Draymond, he understands how great Kauai is, but he took the challenge tonight to sit down in their chair, be disruptive, deny him to basketball. And then when he did catch the basketball, I thought he played great defense. He got to steal late, picked his pocket. Man, look, the Warriors look, they look good. Once Steph kind of got it going, Al hit them three threes in a row.

I said, oh, whoa. Yeah, Al turned back to half the time. You see, hey, my boy, Al, he got it going there in that four quarter. It was fun to watch. Both teams played great. They both shot over 50% from the field, over 40% from three. I thought this was great championship caliber

playoff type basketball. But I tell you what, Joe, they mess around, if they had pieces and they could trade for Janus, the way they can shoot the basketball and the way Yonis would occupy so much lane time that you couldn't slump off, they'd be right back in the mix.

Go ahead with you. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead. One thing. One thing. The thing is, if you add Janice to that, because you're going to have to probably give up what, Draymond. Yeah, they don't want to give up that.

He's such an emotional leader, Uncle Ocho, and you see what he does defensively. It ain't a lot of guys, though, who want to do the dirty work in the league. I'm just going to keep it 100. Yeah. You're right. It's the dirty work, and he is the pulse, the heartbeat of that team. But, Joe, the screens, that behind the back pass,

you think about the past. Yeah. Steph had the ball. He gave it to Draymond. Draymond went behind his back. Steph, booed, boot, step away from Brooke Lopez, they're out of bounds from 30. They're not very many guys.

They have such a rapport. It's like Carson and Ocho. It's like me and Elway. It's like Mahomes and Kelsey. A quarterback and a receiver, they see things. They know things because they have that type of relationship. He doesn't have that relationship with anybody else. Yeah, guys can sit picks.

Alex six picks for him, Pod six picked for him, Santos six picks, but it's not like Draymond. Because Draymond knows everything. Draymond knows when he goes away, he'll be right, man. Don't worry about it. I'm a dribble right here because he's coming right back.

Yeah, that chemistry and continuity, man, you can't. It's hard to substitute for that because a lot of the times when Draymond has the ball, his man ain't going to be up on him close. No, no. You know what I mean? So he knows that he's so smart and cerebral that.

He's like, okay, boom. Whenever I got the ball, I'm just looking to set a pick. bro, you come off my side, you're going to be open. You can do as many loop to loops as you want to. I'm going to be waiting for you to come around the block. Yes. Yeah, they got chemistry and continuity that you can't teach, for real.

And they do a lot of dribble handoff. And then just when you think Draymond going to hand it off to Steph, guess what he'll do? He'll drive right to the basket and dunk it on your layer up. Because he got, because you know, you're like, okay, now I got a jump. I got a jump to get Steph. Yeah. Okay. Dreymontz said, no, I'm going to keep it this time.

Go ahead, Ocho. Hey, you know what? First off, I'm going to be honest. we talked about the game and the game coming up, I really thought the Clippers had this in hand. For one, Steph had missed so much time. I thought when he did come back, he would be rusty. He wouldn't be as efficient as he normally is. Obviously, the game starts playing.

I'm thinking, okay, well, goddamn, the Clibbon got Kawai. They got Garland. They should be able to handle a goddamn Warriors team that might be a little rusty, might be a little off, because Steph hasn't played. And obviously, listen, they fooled me. That goddamn Steph, obviously the Warriors being. a team that is familiar with situations like this in big games. And that goddamn, Steph Unk, them boys was down the whole goddamn game.

I don't know what happened. Now, when you talk about a second win, Joe and Uncle, you know, I'm thinking boxing. You know, you get to the round, round seven to eight. You get to the championship rounds and all of a sudden you catch that second win. And hell, it's due with that. And I think Steph Curry being familiar with situations like that, when we got to have it because if we don't have it, you know we're going?

Chef, yeah, you know he's taking it. Yeah. You say that second way, and anybody that's done cardio, you know sometimes you'd be 10, 15 minutes in and you feel like, ish. And then all of a sudden you get the 20 minutes in and you're like, God, what happened? Yeah.

Like somebody's scrapping on your back. Yeah, I don't know why that happened. I don't know either. I don't know either. I mean, sometimes I'm like that. I'm like, damn, boy, this thing feels. And I was like, okay, okay, let me get five more minutes. Let me get five more minutes.

And all of a sudden, my turnover starts to pick up. My breathing all of a sudden is more under control. And the next thing you know, I'm 30, 40 minutes in. I'm like, okay, now this is how I'm supposed to feel. Right. I don't give it down what you say. A team that shoot as many jump shots is the Golden State Warriors. You can't let them shoot 57%, Joe?

No, you can't. That's a jump shooting team. Yeah, they got a couple of layups. But look, they shot 41, 3 they made 19. You can't let them shoot that kind of percentage. No, they let them shoot 40. Hey, hey, you say, you say let. You couldn't stop them.

But I'm saying, if you let a team that's private, they ain't got no big. Who the hell they posted up? The guy's shooting the ball. At some point, shoot you off. I'm like, well, damn. I think, I think when you look at it, you know, Golden State has crafty guards.

Paz is crafty. Jeff Curry is very crafty. And they got, they was in the teeth of their defense the whole night. Okay, Ojo, you know, when you get in basketball, if you got guys who can get in the paint and touch that paint every time, get paint touches, and spray out for three or get easy, dump-offs. I feel like that's what Golden State done the whole night.

They outworked the clippers to me, you know what I mean? They play harder. They seem like they wanted it more, especially down the stretch. And Steph just put them on his back. obviously scoring the ball but just making the right plays as well Al stepping up big like I said knocking down them threes

man that was a huge win for them guys man considering everything that they didn't went through this whole entire season you know to now try and get healthy and try and make a playoff spot it's going to be tough if they do even get in that A spot though it's going to be tough

so hey uncle be tough hold on be tough or what it's going to be I'm saying if they make the A spot hell they're oh you like So you like them on O KC? Man, no. No, sir.

Oh, but you said they can get a game. I ain't even saying that. I'm saying it's going to be tough. What you said, it's going to be tough on them. Yeah, it's going to be tough on them. Oh, oh, okay. I'm dead corrected. Hey, they do all this fighting and wrestling right now,

and then you feel like to have the fighting wrestle on Friday. Yeah, by the time you play OKC, they've been rested for two weeks. Boy, they're going to, hey, they're going to run it. And that means they would have them on Sunday. Yeah. So we all three of us can agree that if they do get the A-C and have to face OKC, it's going to be a gentleman sweeping, right? Well, they got to go into Phoenix and beat Phoenix.

What will we think about that match-up, huh? I'm like Golden State. Look, we already know what Dylan Brooks going to try to do. He going to try to be physical with Steph. You're going to try to get in his head. He's going to be clapping. you're going to be doing all that other stuff. Man, look, when you're this many years in the league like Steph,

Steph doesn't seen it all. Yeah. From Lance Stevenson to all these other guys that's been alone, that's come along. At Bill, same way. Yeah, yeah. That don't bother, Steph. I don't know.

I ain't going to lie to y'all. You know, I enjoyed the performance tonight, but I ain't going to get ahead of myself with this game they got against Phoenix. Hey, hey, no, no, no. We got to give, you know, obviously get a voice from credit, but I thought Coaha looked great early. It seemed like he got tired. I don't think he played 40 minutes the whole season.

Okay, Ocho, I think he'll clip. Unless they quit overtime. I'm sure he'll clips 40 minutes tonight. I think they had a lot of doing. He played 40 on the head. Yeah, I think they had a lot to do with, I think they had a lot to do with him being a little fatigued down the stretch, if you just want me to be honest.

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Hey, that got to be the worst friend. T. Lou doesn't really, doesn't really have a choice. Yeah. Go ahead, don't Joe. And I'm going to say, I don't think, Joe, that got to be one of the worst feelings. You know, you have your superstars, obviously, go to the bench,

and you have a big lead, and then those that come in to replace the superstars, you hope to maintain that lead, but at least keep the goddamn float of ship and keep your team ahead to get your star to some rest, and damn, they close the goddamn gap, and you have no choice but to put the stars back in

because you ain't got no fucking death. Yeah, it's like when Kauai ain't in the game, okay, Ocho, it's like the clippers really don't have a rhyme of reason to what it is they're doing. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know garlic can get to his spots, but for the most part,

man I know it was a lot of Hey look I know they made a lot of shots But boy it was a show It was show a lot of ill-advised shots tonight That's what drives me crazy Joe I'm like bro

Come on So I'm sitting here watching I'm like even from I thought You know Brooke Lopez gave him Great Minutes he played well And that's my guy You know what I mean

But I think With his size So he probably should have done A little bit more damage you know in the post I mean him going one for six from three I just think man the three point guys just fall in love with three so much man

all you had to do is take a step of two in you can get an easier shot Kawhi one for six from three Derek Jones one from four Brooke Lopez one for six Chris Dunn one for two Darius Garland two for four yeah

they're from the three yeah they were perfect from the free throw line and you know what the thing is what I've always found amazing about the warriors about how good a rebounding team they are to be so undersized. Yeah. Yeah. You know why? Because shooting three,

you don't know where the ball will go off. And they've done quick jokers, go get it. That's the, I mean, you look at it. Oh, man, man, you should kill them on the, and all, every damn near, every year, they wanted the better rebounding teams. That's because they gain rebound, you know, as a unit. They ain't looking for one player to go get

15 boys, they all going to have about six to eight to nine rebounds. You know, even the guards. Yeah. And I think that definitely, that definitely helps them out a lot, especially in, like, transition when guards get the rebound, Uncun Ocho. That's like a fast break. You pushing it out, get on the break quick, and you know you got to find them shooters. So they always going to have space to be able to get in the pancreate and cause havoc.

And that's pretty much what they did tonight. Yeah. What you call them? And the turnovers, I mean, and Golden State was sloppy. Golda State had not had 20 turnovers. The Clippers only had 17, but it's when they had the turnovers. You saw Joe and Ocho, you saw they had like three or four really late in the ball game. They had back-to-back turnovers.

After Steph hit the three, guess what? They get a steal. Hey, now it's a five-point game. Now guess what? Co-Way and the ball up, Drayman's script him again. Yeah, yeah. Hey. So it's, and this is what I tell people, it's like, all turnovers aren't created equal.

Yeah. A quarterback throws an interception in the first quarter. It ain't the same if he threw an interception with two minutes left in the ball game in the fourth. Right. So you're like, well, but they only had 17. The other team had 20. Okay, that's 17. So how did they get to that number 17?

Look at the last three to four turnovers when they took place. Yeah, that was crucial. That was really the difference in the ball game. Yeah, those are crucial mistakes. You've got to be able to execute. You've got to be able to execute in those moments. And they were very uncharacteristic for the clip of suit because you're on there. I mean, especially Kauai, in those late game situations.

Yes. You know, that's why I can, I mean, I look at like the fatigue or, you know, we always talk about how the game is ramped up to another level when we get in the postseason and the playoffs. Yeah. And a lot could have had to do with, you know, Kauai, especially down the stretch with him being a little tired playing all. the minutes. I just feel like, man, Draymond done a hell of a job

on an Ocho on that four quarter. Getting tied. Oh, man, I'm talking about this. And maybe that's what it was, Joe. Maybe that's what, you know, because a lot of times you start to make mistakes when you get tired. The mind starts to drip.

You know, all of a sudden, you do uncharacteristic things. You see it. Yeah. Dremont, Dremont, still in there, shaking everybody in the arena. Is it?

He's still. Man, Trayb. Man, I'm going to have to go see a game. Because I hear the arena is very, very nice. You're talking about their new arena? Yes. The Warriors? No, no, no.

Oh, the clippers. Yeah, I heard it was nice too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. When you think about going? Ain't no going over this year, Ocho. I mean, we can go in October. November.

It's over for them. Ain't no more going, ain't no more going this year. Okay. And you know, man, you know, look, T. Lou my guy. Yeah. And I kind of wanted to see him. I kind of wanted to see him where I mean, but he got, he just can't, he just can't get no, he just can't.

I mean, Kauai, when they had great opportunities, Kauai get injured and boom. PG got injured. PG could never stay healthy. Kauai got injured and that was it because you pinned all your hopes you pinned all your hopes on those

two guys and those two guys were the least healthiest and they're your best players and it's just hard to overcome and because you've given up so much how do you build a team how do you build

how do you how do you build a team you got you're going to have to do something with Kau you're probably going to have to extend Kauai you probably get Kauai another three-year deal, $40, $45 million a year, Joe. Or do you go ahead and trade them or try to get some assets for it? Whoa, whoa, whoa, come on, Joe.

You don't want to set yourself back, man. Man, yeah. The problem is, the problem is I see what you're saying, Joe. But who's going to come, I mean, it's hard enough to get people to come to that arena because it's so high. So who are you going to trade them for that people want to, you know this is a superstar league, Joe? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I don't care what they, they're coming. to see no randoms. No, they ain't coming, but I ain't come to see no randoms, but if you go get you one of these young phenoms, you know what I mean? Like, Kauai got a lot of value to where he could help with championship caliber team.

Yes. You know what I mean? Most times, teams that aren't willing to get off, giving his history. Yeah. And given how many games he's going to potentially now this year he played, you know, once he got back, he played, Joe. Yeah. But his history. So what are we making on? We look

other guy that's what, 35, 34, 35 with his injury history, do we believe he'll be more or less healthy moving forward? He'll probably be less, but I think you have to have great maintenance as far as like, minutes restricting wise, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know, keep him in the low 30s, you know, to where he can, you know, finish out the season, finish out the season for you. think playing like playing tonight 40 plus minutes bro that's gonna be hard on the body when you ain't had to rev it up like that that's all i'd be saying yeah yeah but the thing is teams are

very reluctant to give up them young star players hey and joe when you think about it right you think about the think about the clifers let say you do let kawai go then when you get that production that he gives you every night when he's not hurt when he's not injured i understand you understand we got the phenom i ain't see no phenoms like that you know in the one hopefully I know you're hoping you get you a shake. Yeah. Because when they gave up PG and OKC, what did they say? Where are you going to get that production from?

Yeah. Remember, PG was just in the running for MVP. Yeah. PG average like 28 points a game. Hey, Joe. What's that? But the ones that out of the feet are, you know, they're going to be gone, huh? I mean, it just depends.

I think if you wait to after the draft, Maybe you can package something like that. I don't know, man. I'm just saying, like, he still got a lot of, you know, good basketball left in him. And I don't think the clip was going to where. I'm just going to be honest with you. I don't think, I don't think they are either. It wasn't Kauai.

It was Paul George. It was what they had to give up to get Paul George. That was the reason. Yeah. Think about what you gave up to get him. Think about what you gave up and you still gave, you gave away. and you gave up. You gave away potentially,

but he got a chance. There's a 98% chance he's going to be a two-time league MVP. There's a chance he'll be a two-time finals MVP. And you gave him up at the ripe age of 20, 22, tops. And then he wasn't able to stay healthy. If he could have stayed healthy when Kaua was out, you might have could have, okay.

But then guess what? Both of them are out. Now what do we do? both B-O-A-L both now what we do what we do now uh Joe well hey look that's why other guys got to step up

in these opportunities you're losing your two best players ain't no so let me ask you a question you believe Boston the number two seed if they lose jaylon brown and jaylin jayette well listen what about what about uh what about uh what about the lakers losing a R and Luca no they lost they lost them

after this all the situation So if they, let's just say Luke and AR miss 55 games. You think they to foresee? They don't know. That's what I'm saying. No. So you're saying some other guys got to step up. You're not losing your two best players.

I don't give it. I don't care who it is. You take any two best players off any team. They're not winning, they probably, Murray and Yokic, you take B.I. And you take Scotty Barnes. you take Kat and you take Brunson. Any two players you want.

You take the two best players off any team. You believe they're going to make the playoffs? No, no. Now they miss a significant amount of time to work. Right. And then think about what Kauai was missing. Remember Kaua missed the whole season. And he...

And did he low manager? Joe, he's missing 25, 30 games. Yeah. Hey, but they knew that coming into it. He'd been low... Excuse me. been low manager since he's been in San Antonio. He has?

Yeah. But I think the thing, and they were okay with the load manager, they just, I mean, if you think about it, they went in the game and he steal the ball, he's going for a layup and he tears ACL, Joe. Yeah, I know. I can't, Joe, I can't play for that. Oh. I mean, he had buzzet look.

Yeah. Well, listen, I still think it'll be a team out there who will take a chance on trying to get him. I don't know if they'll give up a, you know, like you said. I'm not giving up a whole lot for a guy with it. How old is Kauai? 35. Kauai was a rookie with LeBron in 2014.

So 34. Okay. Okay. Yeah. 34-year-old Joe with an injury history. Hey, but look how he played towards the end of the season. Look at the numbers. Yes.

Well, you do realize he missed it like the first 20th. game though, right? Yeah, I know. I'm saying I said when he came back, what he did. Hey, but statistically, this might be one, this might be one of his best season. It's not his best season, huh? It is his best season as far as scoring. I

think I read a stat where he's the first guy in year 14 or later to have a career best scoring year. Hey, it's funny how that work, huh? Yeah. Time and everything. And and the understanding. You might not be there. Yeah. So what I'm going to do? I'm going to

out here put up one of my best performances the rest of the season when I do come back just in case. I don't, me personally, I don't think they'll trade Kauai considering what they gave up to get him. I don't think he wants to go anywhere. I mean,

look, he wanted to come to L.A. And basically, he wanted to come to L.A. and they thought they had him with the Lakers, and then at the last minute, you know, they're like, okay, I kind of want, you know, L.A. is L. L.A. Yeah.

I'm still going to be close to San Diego. I think he has a place and I ain't going to say what the man has a place. But anyway, he closed by. You're like, clippers. I'm in L.A. Yeah. Let's see, okay, what you're willing to do? What y'all got for your boy?

Uncle Dennis went in there and said, you know, hey, boom, boom, boom, hey, you know, hey, what you got for your boy? Hey, allegedly, supposedly, you know, Uncle Dennis, you know, I need a little something, something too, you know, you know what I'm saying, Joe? Hey, you want to talk to him a boy Joe? Hey, let me get your girl number. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to hook that up.

You'll hook this up. You know, I got to get somebody to deal. Yeah, yeah. Okay, but, uh, man, it's, it's tough. And the clippers, man, I just, I just don't know. And they had that great opportunity. When they got, they had so much promise. You remember it was, they came out there with the Jersey's 213.

Yeah. Because, you know, I was two. And Paul George. Yeah. Yeah. the LA area code. You got, you know what I'm like, okay. Look how they got that thing going.

Hey, they didn't get it done, man. If they were on a championship, boy, they either been standing on top of L.A. If you win one championship, it was worth whatever you gave up to get it. You know? If you win one, the Rams did the right thing. You know why?

Because Matthew Stafford has already delivered them a championship. If he delivers him another one, great. But whatever you gave up to get him, it was worth it because you got a championship. And that guy is going to keep you in contention every single year because you got that guy. Kauai is the type of guy that can keep you in contention. Just need a couple of other pieces.

I mean, I like Darius Garland. He gets injured a lot. Yeah. I really like Mathrin. I really like his aggressive. He can play. Yeah, I had him picked. I thought this year in Indiana, I thought with Hallenberg being out,

I thought he would have been a potential all-star look, but obviously that didn't happen. He got traded to the clippers. Hey, he hit tonight too, didn't he? Yeah, he had 23, 7-11, 5 or 6 from the 3. I'm talking about on the prize piece. We had him over there. Yeah, yeah.

Bank Carroll let us down. Everybody covered by what? I'm a barge. What, Ben Carroll? I thought we hit, man. Hey, a matter of fact, speaking of who hit and who didn't, hey, Joe, didn't we make a little bet? On what?

You lost. I took Philly, partner. Huh? I took Philly if we bet it. Oh, no, I don't think we bet, then. Boy, that Ocho, man, he's something, man. I swear that you was supposed. I'm just making a show.

You told me you wrote it down on your phone or something. Yeah, we got the Nix, the Nix and the Hops. Okay, okay. Check this out. In 2020, he was eliminated in the second round. 2021, eliminating the conference finals. 2022, eliminating the play-in. 20-23, eliminating the first round.

24, first round. 25, first round. 26, playing. What grade you give him, Joe and Ocho? I'm going to give, for what, this year? Give him, give the Kauai Clippers an error grade. What do you give him? his clippers era.

I'll give him a B minus. B my ass. What you, what you're giving? I'm saying to. F. A F. He got eliminating the second round.

He made the conference finals once, the play in tournament, eliminating the first round, the first round, the first round, the play end. You said this season. I said give his clippers era a grade. He's been there.

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And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm not going to give it an F. I'm going to give it a C. I'm going to give him a C. I'm going to give him a C. A C! Yeah, he can't do it by itself. his play ain't been terrible hell he's just been hurt what damn I mean his counterparts have been hurt you want him to carry the whole wagon

by himself he can't carry Hey yeah I can't Okay when they was when they was in the bubble and they had that 3-1 lead That should give him a bad I left than a fee by itself Everybody was healthy Kuwa was healthy

PG was healthy Pat Bab was healthy Everybody was healthy 3-1 On Denver that right there alone should do a number only. Hold on.

So, um, let me get this right, then. So you giving Kauai a F. Based on his tenure? What grade could I give him? I mean, what, because I got to grade you

on what were the expectations versus what actually happened. Ooh. Well, based on expectations, depending on the team, everybody would get an F, then if that's the case. everybody look here they didn't move heaven and earth to get everybody okay okay okay everybody

wasn't a two-time finals MVP everybody wasn't a two-time defensive player of the year everybody isn't a top 75 player in the history of the in the history of the NBA he he have to be a guided see that's the thing people want to grade what everybody no you have to grade certain players differently everybody doesn't get graded I'm gonna treat them all fair but I ain't going to treat you all the same. Yeah. So let me ask you a question. Ocho,

does everybody get treated like Hawaii? Does everybody have privileges like Hawaii? No, absolutely not. So why we got to grade them to everybody the same then? A young boy has been a long wolf for a while out there. By himself now. Now, when you, when you're doing the grade? And the play in?

You got a fact in all the other. You lost the play in on your home court. Ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought it up. He ain't been to the car. I mean, they say, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26. So in seven years, he's only made it to the conference finals once. He's only gone, hey, he's only gone past the second round once.

He's only gotten to the second round once. Hold on how long he's been in L.A.? Seven years since 2020. Joe, you try, you're going to change a grade, Joe. he been to actually no he been there since 2019 because 2019 it when it happened you know

he won the championship in Toronto in June of 2019 he signed with he signed with the clippers in like July of 2019 and then led that season yeah y'all remember yeah they thought they thought why it was hot

bring them to L.A. Paul George they thought they were going to strike and get a chip out of them boys but it didn't happen? Look, if he had gotten a championship, you can't give him anything but of A. Right. So anything less than the championship is the F? Let's just say for the sake of argument. Go ahead. Go ahead, Ocho. Go ahead. I mean. I'm going. I know the expectations are high based on what you gave up for him. So anything less than a cherubish him, he gets the F. He got to, hold on. Even if he doesn't get your championship, can't. Can't. can we get there?

Can we play in a couple of finals a couple of times? We can't keep going out in the first he can eliminate in the playing. Hey, look, look, he got to get some help, well. I mean, I mean, don't get me wrong. I thought James played great.

He was an all-star. But, so we go, so we, I guess Ocho don't want to talk about that. So when they had James Hart and Paul, George, and Kauai. and they couldn't get out of the first round. Not what we do it. Let me take this every piece out so I can hear you.

Speaking to the microphone, a little louder. You ain't say nothing. You laugh. Hey, hold on. Did we forget about that? Joe? Did you forget about James Harder was there? I did.

Oh, okay. And so now, do you want to, do you want to regrade? Are you grading on the curb? Or what we do? No, that's what I'm giving them to see, man. I'm giving them to see. This man gave this man a seat with James Hard, top 75 player.

Yeah. Twylinner, top 75 player, an MVP. Wow. Y'all'll be ashamed of yourself. Hey, you couldn't have been no teacher, man. You couldn't have been no teacher because when it comes to grading papers, everybody in the goddamn class would have failed. Hey.

I'm going to give you what you earned. Hey, listen. I don't give you what you deserve. I can't say, you know what, I thought he was going to be one of my best students. You know what? me grade him on a curve. Even though we had a 30

question test and he got 22 of them wrong, let me go on and give him a C plus. That's what Joe doing. Joe passing everybody and can't nobody read and they can't nobody ahead. Also, Joe factor in the circumstances, Kauai

had to deal with. Not only injury, then not having anybody else to help. My thing is. So what was James Harden doing? What was James Harden doing? He did, he did, he did his part. He helped out. He pitched in.

He pitched in. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So, hold on. So, hold on. So James Harden pitched in. You said James Hardin did pitch in. Hold on. With James Hardin was there, James Hardin just left.

So in 25, they got eliminated the first round. In 24, they got eliminated the first round. In 23, they got eliminated the first round. If I'm not mistaken, James Hardin was there all them years. Yeah. When the James, as a matter of fact, give me James Hart because I don't want to miss speak. Hey, hey, them two man bands. over with, man.

Them two man bands, they over with. You ain't got a leash. Well, they had three because they have PG. Oh, so you're not saying PG ain't that? But PG, you know, he was dealing with a lot of injury. He didn't even really play that much for the clipper, for real. He went to the Clippers in 23. Okay.

This year. Yeah. So, so, so, so, uh, James got there in 23. First round. 24. First round. 25. First round. First round. He left trade deadline this year

playing tournament I'm just saying hey chat now y'all see how all these students get out here and they can't read the right but hey listen check this out though hold on hold on hold on considering

listen at this considering what the way the clipper started this year you ain't even had them making the play in you wouldn't you know you ain't think they were going to make no play in no no and and they got that hot streak where they won like 23 or 23 or 25 or 26 ball game

Slap got right back into the thick of it. Yeah. Hold on. You know what? And I like this. I like that we're doing this night. So let's do the grade too. Even though they still plan.

Excuse me. With Reeves and goddamn Luke out. Yeah. What's LeBron's grade going to be when they get eliminated? Would it still be the same? Are we going to factor? You want a grade? you want a grade,

you're on a grade LeBron's, uh, tenure at the Lakers? Yeah. They won a championship. Yes or no? Yep. Are you,

you count, you count in the bubble? I'm just, I'm just curious. They played it. Guess what? The Dodgers won the championship, and guess what they played in the bubble?

Fans weren't in the stadium. Guess who else? Everybody in 2020, guess why they won a championship? Was it a normal championship that they won, Joe? Baseball, basketball, basketball. football. So what about Tampa? Are we going to take away Tampa?

Because it was played under what circumstances, don't you? How many fans? How many fans showed about the Super Bowl? Normally, 75, 80,000? They had 7,000. So is it normal? I'm curious. How are we doing it? Just let me know. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let's wait. Let's wait. Let's wait. I like the grading scale.

I like the grading scale. So we're going to wait. You know, and that tenure. But you wait. Hold on. Hold on. This man just wait to say, okay, without Reeves and without. not Luca. You do realize LeBron was the third is the third option. He has to go back to the first option. I'm also factoring that Kauai was the main

option and had no help. In the playoffs, James Hart disappears. PG is not. Whoa. Whoa. He'd be by himself. Hey. What you think of like a little of it? Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead.

Make your point. And LeBron ain't no third option neither on. He just played that role because he had missed significant time. And when came back, they would click on all cylinders. You know that man ain't no third option, man. He's not normally. But what was he on this team this year, Joe?

He just played the role. He just played that. Look, he ain't able. What role is he playing now? Obviously, he's been thrusting in this role, but he's back at this comfortable position. He's back at the... Joe, whether you are a fool, if you play a fool, whether you want or not, what are you? Oh, Joe.

Man, that Joe will play... That's why you got to be careful who you're arguing with. Because if you argue with a fool and people walk up and hear you two argue, they don't know which one is the fool. They don't say one is a fool, the other is a bigger fool or a damn fool. But we just know we got two fools arguing. So I just try to figure out. I'm just trying to figure out where y'all be so leader.

That's why I'm glad. That's why I'm glad y'all ain't no teachers. Can we pass everybody? Uh-huh? Because we passed- Oh yeah, you already know Joe passing everybody Joe giving an open book test

every day Yeah, I ain't trying to flunk nobody I'm gonna be honest I want you to go on I don't want to see you I didn't flunk you You did that But not studying

By not doing your homework By not turning your assignments in I give the assignments You do the assignment I create it You don't turn it in The assignment is wrong I don't know what you expect me to do

Uncle see ain't bad though Yeah Did they bring a championship now? But considering the fact that when the man did play, the man put up numbers. Now, the team around him, were they good enough to win the title? Now, obviously not. But I can't say I ain't giving the man no elf.

I'm by this, okay, all I'm going to ask you is this, when they had a 3-1 lead and Kauai was healthy, PG was healthy, everybody was healthy. What you gave him on that one? Hey, man, they ran to a hell of a team. That hell Oh, hold on. That hell of a team

That'll go James them The team that beat them Go James, the gentleman swept them You're talking about that one? Yeah, a hell of a team. They were hell of a team. That them were a team. Yeah, they ran to a hell of a team, man.

Like them all folks here and say, well, I'll be a monkey's uncle. Look, It's tough because you're grading a, grading him against what he did based on what the expectations were when he arrived. Because

this was supposed to be a different Clippers team. This was, as a matter of fact, you heard it. The Clippers had taken over the Lakers. I remember the first night Kauai got there. There were people on television said Kauai Leonard made LeBron James look old. That this was Kauai Town.

You heard it? I ain't making it up. Hey, they had the Lakers number for a while now. Until LeBron said, you know what enough of this. And you remember what LeBron did to him? As a matter of fact, he did a number on Milwaukee. He put that thing on Yonnis on a Friday

and then came home that Sunday and took the game over. Yeah, I remember. I remember that. I remember that. And from that time, all, LeBron, they looked back. Yeah. I mean, he pulled up in his love. low rider, feet me, he got the crowd.

Yeah, they didn't think I saw that. On the rear view movie, he had a crown. He had LeBron cry, he dangling. You saw it too. Ocho saw it. Joe, you saw it. They're talking about Kaua Town. Yeah, yeah. I know about Chinatown, Korea,

I don't know about no, Chauai Town. Hey, they put, they put in the Lakers over their lap. I'm spanking them boys. Dang. Until it matter. Until it matters. Until LeBron said enough of this. And just like this year.

What did he do? You remember, you remember, y'all? What happened this year? What happened this year? Pull up your LeBron number last how they played. He had like 30-something, did a number on it, they were down. And the LeBron said, you know what? They got me people out here.

These people got me bent. Yeah, yeah. That better stop it. And think about it. also got a senior citizen in class trying to give and talk about what grade you're going to get the man 41

no we're not going to use that we're not we not we can we cannot use 41 as excuse he's still playing he's just going to do that all the time huh you use that all the time no no I don't I don't I don't

we just can't use that as I tell you hold on because he's still playing hold on he 23 I remember we didn't have no we didn't have couldn't give him number in year seven so at 34 so lebron jane's 34 he 41 now that was seven years ago yeah that put him

around 20 that'll put him around 2017 20 2016 2016 he would lead a team to a championship at 34 the first man in NBA history to lead every both teams and points rebounds and says stills and block shots Yeah. And had a triple double in game seven. You talked by the chosen one. You talked about the king, right? I'm saying at the same age, at the same age. Are we trying to compare what you talking about?

Hold on you trying to compare Kauai? Whoa. Hey, Joe, you're the league, were they not saying at a time that Kauai was better than LeBron? Did you hear that, too? Joe, did you hear that? At one point. At one point.

Who said that, Joe? At one point. What said that? But, hey, he got bob. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I got bogged down with them injuries, you know, that kind of, they, they, they weighed heavy on him. And, you know, LeBron ain't really had no real injuries like that. Nah, he got, he got, I think his foot, one, one year. Hold on, when did LeBron, hold on, LeBron got to, LeBron got to the Lakers.

They lost that championship in 2018, and LeBron ended up going to the Lakers in 2018. In the summer of 2018, LeBron went there. So 2019, they ended up getting AD. LeBron led the league of assists. 25, 10, and 7. Yeah. Yeah, he did that. And he was the oldest man when he first got to L.A.

First two years, he was the oldest guy to have 27, 8 and 8. Nobody else had ever done that after the age of 30. Big old, Jordan, Russ, everybody did it before 30 he did it after the age of 30 I don't even know why I brought that up that ain't even none of my business Hey look we already know he a bad man

We ain't we ain't even It ain't no discrepancies over here I already know And we talk about 41 Joe Yeah it's impressive It's impressive to still see him play At this high level That's why I'm excited to see

What he gonna do this weekend Well how about this here What do we give Kauai incomplete Incomplete? Incomplete Yeah let's see what he can't incomplete. If he stayed there a couple of years to get a championship, let's

just say it's incomplete. Hold on. If he's going to get a championship, it's not going to be in L.A. Huh? It's not going to be in L.A.? Whoa, whoa, unless he go to the Lakers. Oh. Wait,

but LeBron won't still be there, though. You don't know. Hey, look, LeBron knows more than likely if he wants to make big time money, he's going to prop. I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind, and now I've got my own show.

So if you're tired of lazy takes, if you want honest conversations, join us each week. Film Never Lies, available on all TSN platforms in the IHeart Radio app. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars, and now I guess also is the co-host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old.

I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game.

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No. I think LeBron knows that. when they didn't get when they didn't give him that extension because normally Joe they normally give me this okay we got another one plus one yeah when he had to play this when he played this when he played because normally when LeBron played the contract out he's looking to move what did he do in Cleveland the first time played the contract out he dipped what did he do in Miami played the contract out he dip what did he do the second time in Cleveland

play the contract out he dip every time in LA it was two plus one When he got to the plus one, he always signed an extension. This was the first time that it wasn't in his hand. So what's you thinking? So what's the move going to be this summer? It's hard for me to see him leave in L.A. because he's playing with his son. And I think a lot of people take that for granted.

Yeah, I mean, but I think that's an amazing feat. I enjoy watching them on the floor together, despite what everybody else may think. And Brony gets better, Joe. He is, man. Ronnie getting better. Yes. Confidence. You know what?

Confidence is something else, especially in professional sports. I know for sure in the NBA. It's everything. And once you gain that confidence to where you know you belong, Ocho, you start to become a different player, bro. Yeah.

Your approach to the game, the way you move on the court, it's just... Yeah, it's just right. The way you walk, the way you carry yourself. You know, I'm a bad man. Yeah, it's like confidence just ooves out of you.

You know what I mean? Yes. And I think Brony, Brunney, is definitely getting I think the absence with AR and Luca has kind of thrust JJ Redick to have to kind of play him, you know what I mean? And, you know, he's been decent in his minutes. And I think he'll continue to get better.

Yeah. If you notice, Joe, early in the year, he was getting no shot. He would drive the ball, kick it. Now he gets that ball, he's pulling up. You know what that is, though. And he's shooting it with confidence. Yeah. You know what Joe and Unk?

What's that? Based on LeBron's history, on what he's done in Cleveland, what he's done in Miami, what he's done when he went back to Cleveland, and then obviously being in LA this year, not doing that extension. And Joe, you mentioned the feat of being able to play, you know, with your son. Yeah. Now, he's done that already. He's done that already.

Now, there's one place and there's one player in an NBA that LeBron has always said he wanted to play with. Who? And that will probably be where he would be next year, right down the road, that far from L.A. And Golden State? Yeah. Yeah. Well, San Francisco a nice little hunt from L.A., but I get your point. I don't see that. I don't see that.

Huh? I don't see it. Man, they got a lot of money tied up in guys that's kind of hurt, Ocho. You know what I mean? I don't know how you think. Oh, you're talking about Jimmy and, you know, Moses. He got a nice, he got a nice. Moses, without Petal Tenton of He ain't coming. Hey, you remember Sean Livingston had that. You remember how long it took Sean Livingston to come back of Joe? Yeah, he was a gruesome though.

Yes. You saw Moody made that indentation in his knee? I was like, oh, man. Ooh. But, hey. That's a, that's a, they got to reattach that thing. Yeah. That's a, that's a gruesome injury to overcome.

Damn. That might be worse than it. Keyles. You're probably right. I think you probably right. What brother Livingston did? How it happened? He, uh, well, he tore everything in his needle.

Yeah. It was bad. You had to look it up. Ocho, I can't even. Ah, no, I can't see that. He didn't even talk about it, boy. It was in game? Yeah, yeah, it was in game.

Hey, um, but speaking of Brony, kind of jumping back on, uh, Brony, you know what I think has helped him? What's that? Not only is he getting minutes, but they kept sending him to the G League down there. He's been playing, and, you know, he's been thriving, and I think that kind of, you know, he's kind of asserted himself a little bit to where he's played with a lot more confidence when they do put him in the game for the Lakers.

So this is going to be a big series. Joe say, the rupture the Keeleys tendon is generally considered a worse than a Patel attendant injury, often being described as the hardest injury to overcome for an athlete, as discussed, while both caused a significant dysfunction, An Achilles tear often leads to more significant long-term loss of explosive speed, jumping ability, whereas Patela involves intense pain and severe knee instability. She just like, which is worse? Getting run over by a dump truck or a Mack truck. Because what happens is that because you're in that boot so long, you have atrophies.

Yeah. Now you're not able to get up. But on the Patella, Joe, hey, I got to deal with his knee tendonitis. Ain't nothing worse than that Patella, that Patella tendinitis, man. Boy, hey, listen, you're talking to somebody who knows. You got to, hey, you got to stay in there splint to keep your legs straight for two months, bro. I'm talking about two months. It's hard to take a shower.

It's hard to do any of that. Yeah. Yeah. You had to get mad because, you know, when you got injured, Ocho, I don't know if you had it, we had them big old, big old, big old, big old bands, leather thing, plastic things. Yeah. We put, tape it up so you don't get it wet,

you don't get the cast, so you don't get the, you know, whatever it is, you don't get it wet. But it's hard because like when you had the facility, you got all the showers to yourself. You got a,

now, Joe, you know, Joe got that big old space probably like this here with a shower. We got about four, five shower heads up in there. Joe, you know, you know what I'm saying? He probably coming off there like Lake Victoria.

With the, hey, hey, with that big shower here. Yeah, I got that big shower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they be Cascade, you know, they want to be be beating up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, Uncle Joe, as bad as that injury is and being worse than Achilles with the advancement of technology and as good as it is now when it comes to therapy and rehab, you think it's still the recovery time for that, it's still as bad as it used to be.

You see guys coming back, you see guys coming back from an Achilles, look at Tatum. He's back in 10 months. Hey, but them do doing around the clock work, though. Like, yes. You know, in hyperbaric chambers

and all that stuff. They're doing everything. They do it infrared and they do it all that stuff. They didn't have that therapy back then. Yeah, the guy at the YMCA, he's, uh, uh, oh, he's done.

Oh, he's done. Insurance only going to pay for two weeks, two months, two days after the week. He got 20 sessions. He go twice a week, he got 20 sessions. I'm just telling you. Yeah. Yeah.

If you're PT really good, you got some really good insurance, they might give you an extra six weeks. Yeah, yeah. Now, if you won it after that, you got to pay for it, probably somewhere between $800 and $1,200 a session. Yeah. Yeah, damn. Hey, them look two days after week ain't enough, though.

I'm going to keep it real. That's why if you ain't doing nothing on your own, bro, it's going to be hard for you to get back, meaning like it's kind of like guys who are only willing to get better when they go to practice. And if he's doing nothing on your own, you ain't gonna be that damn good. It's the same thing with PT.

If I'm only looking to strengthen my knee when I go to physical therapy, and shit, it's gonna take me forever to get back. Boy, I did that hip, Joe. I got home at 1.30, 2.30, I was walking in the yard. I was walking around the yard. I had my walker.

I mean, I was walking in the yard at first and everybody was stopping and talking. Like, man, I thought that was you. No, let me take my ass back inside. Hey, hold on. You were doped up, though? No, no, I ain't They just gave me the anesthesia So I don't take no pain

I don't do no pain pills man I don't have no major surgery You don't do no? Nope Mm-mm You just deal with it? Because they call constipation And I don't want to be dealing with that Even though I got that chocolate milk

And an apple remedy To go and get me right Yeah, the manabizes itself And hey you stopped up But yeah Ain't no way Boy I was so doked up onk over here I'm like you though

I got out the car on my own my lady like, boy, you need to because, you know, she was on me about that. You know what I mean? I like to walk around. I mean, I don't like to be bed bound. You know what I mean? Man, that's the worst thing in the world, bro. Yeah.

And probably about, probably like in 10 days, man, I was walking tired. I mean, I was walking a Tonka man. Man, look. He was off leash. I mean, I would, because I didn't want to run the risk of, you know, him jerking me. But I let him walk out.

walking around the neighborhood. Hey, every for a while, bring me that pain medicine. No, no, no, no, Joe. That's a bad. Like I said, I mean,

the pain medicine have you stopped up. So I wouldn't do it. But even though I got, like if I did take some chocolate, I'd get me like a glass or two of chocolate milk or some apple pills.

Yeah. I'd be hauled chilling clean. Uh, oh, you know, you create them new cars up and that water come out of the tailpipe? Yeah.

That's happy. Hey, nice and clean. Yeah, man, like somebody smashed the pumpkin in the toilet. Man, ain't no way. Boy, hey, that pain wake you up in the middle of the night because you ain't took the meds. Boy, hey, you rocking in it. I couldn't do it, Joe.

What? And then I ended up having an allergic reaction to the medicine that they did give me. I ended up having to go to UCLA medical. I don't remember you saying that. No, I ain't. Oh, man, I broke out with hives, Joe, man. My throat started closing up and I couldn't bring short as a breath. Yeah, not.

Now, hey, hey, treat me like I'm in the hospital. I don't, if I'm knocked out, sure, me. Wake me up every four hours so I can pop the E.P. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I ain't dealing with that pain. Yo, no, Joe, don't wake me up. It's like, Mr. Sharp, how you doing it? I said, I was doing fine until you brought your ass in here.

Yeah. They cut these lights on. Mr. Sharr, it's time to get you, man. Oh, man, come on, man. I said, ma'am, if you don't mind, I'm good. I don't want no pain, medicine. my vitals are fine. If that ain't no like, be-h, don't bring your ass back in here.

Come on, man, Joe. I mean, hey, I finally got me in a good old spot because, you know, you can't turn anywhere. Yeah, yeah. I'm just laying down like, oh, yeah, finally. Here they come and the door open up. Lay. Hey.

And I'll be, so I'll be on, swore. Hey, listen. Well, Mr. Sharp, we need to check your catheter. I say, I'm fine. You had a captain? No, I had a hernia surgery. And so they kept me overnight. Man, look here, Joe.

I had to get up, go to the, I tried to get up, go to the bathroom. Every time I stepped, that thing hurt so bad. I showed that nervous. I say, ma'am, I say, it's not you. So I just want to go ahead and put that out there. It's not you.

I say, but you call the doctor. I say, if he doesn't come here, first thing in the morning, If I'm not his first patient, I'm taking this catheter out on my own. Damn. Yes, sir. I wanted to.

I was going to do what he did. Take a deep breath and he pulled it out. Ooh. Yeah, oh, man. That thing hurt. Oh, I mean, I'm hurting not thinking about it. Damn. Oh, man.

Hey. I'm telling you, that's what my grandma's saying. My grandma's like, Miss, we go up there to see her because she had been in there. She had her been in there for like three days because they end up amputating the leg. She's like, hey, she's like, baby, prop me up so when they come here, I can fool them.

Let them think I'm okay. But she told me a little because they said, when Miss Porter, you lost a lot of blood, and so we need to give you a transfusion. Man, Joe, Ocho, my grandma said, I don't want nobody else's blood. She was just like, I don't want nobody. body of blood. They's like, but Miss Portie,

you really need it. She's like, she said, Libby, I don't want it. It's like, you live it. My sister was like, Granny, you need it. Man, they gave my grandma two pines of blood. My grandma started looking around. I started the water. She said, Libby, bring me the pan.

Everything they gave, but she threw it right back up. Amen. She said, Lib, I told you, I ain't want that. So they come in and said with Ms. Porte. My sister said, no. She don't want it. So they ain't give it to her no more.

OKC Thunder now receive a lottery. You do, Joe, do you know the Clippers are the gift that keep giving the OKC Thunder now receive a lottery pick since the Clippers fail to make the playoffs? So they get their lottery pick, O Joe. And you want to get his man to see. Well, that is his fault. That's Paul George's fault. But it is his fault.

You know why his fault, Joe? Because he's told them he's going to the Lakers. Yeah. What was told he's going to the Lakers if you don't get Paul George. So they had to give up and the clip and OKC knew. Yo, y'all really want him, huh? How bad you want him. Yeah.

Yeah, but that's not fair, huh? You know, you don't expect anybody to be hurt. He can't prevent getting hurt. But, hey, hey. the okay c thunder lucky war they got a Cp3 is trolling the clippers on IG come on CP

No CP ain't done that He didn't that If it's CP3 That was 23 minutes ago What What who Hey that's the

That's the Sunday school hands Hey Hey Hey they're like that job That's the They're saying CP though So I understand it Yeah

Hey There's There's more to that story that ever been told. And, you know, look here. I ain't no insider. So eventually one day it'll come out, but it ain't my story to tell. I stay in my lane. I'm a football guy.

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