Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Wemby out for season, KD All-Star weekend thoughts, LeBron sits out ASG

Episode Date: February 22, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NBA stories of the week. Topics include San Antonio Spurs Victor Wembanyama being ruled out for the season with a life-threatening blood clot, Phoenix Suns Kevin Durant says All-Star Weekend should be canceled and they should let the players rest, Los Angeles Lakers LeBron James sits out of the All-Star game for the first time ever and much more!03:52 - Lakers under pressure with Luka10:16 - Victor Wembanyama out for the season19:00 - Adam Silver gets called out by GM27:26 - Steve Kerr isn’t mad at Kevin Durant for rejecting trade to Golden State36:47 - Mavs wanted Luka to use injury time for conditioning52:00 - Victor Wembanyama is a super max eligible player54:44 - Kevin Durant expresses thoughts on the All-Star Break58:52 - LeBron James sits out All-Star Game(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, absolutely not. Listen, they need a superstar. They need LeBron only have what? Maybe one, maybe two years left. There has to be a superstar to put butts in those seats. And who is that? That is Luka Donjic. That is exactly what he's going to do. At some point, once he gets in shape, once he gets in rhythm, once he gets his legs and feet up underneath him, we're gonna get to see the same Luger that we saw in Dallas. Averaging 29, averaging 30, doing what he normally does every night,

and he is the future for the LA Lakers. And absolutely, at some point, they're gonna start building around him as the star. Well, they're gonna to have to pay him. But when do they pay him? When does that happen? Well, I was reading the other day, Ocho. They said that Luca can sign a two-year deal. So what is this year? Eight for Luca. Asher this year, eight for Luca. He signed a two-year deal that gets him to year 10. Now he'd be in line and he makes the all NBA team, uh, first team, one of those two years in the contract. Now he being like and he makes the all NBA team our first team one of those two years in the contract.

Now he's eligible for a super net max and now he can get that $400 million contract. Is that how it goes? Ash hold on let me see here. Is it year seven? So he, okay. So size of two-year extension Ocho this is your seven next year it decided to your extension so three years he can sign that'll be ten years get him to ten and now he's eligible for a supermax this is very this is very

important because here's the thing Ocho you now, you traded the guy that you really thought was gonna be the succession plan to LeBron, AD. You bring in a guy that's five years younger and say now, instead of having maybe four or five years with AD, we could possibly have 10 to 12 years with Luca. Now, you've already traded AD. You lose Luca, now what? Well, I don't think you're gonna lose him. You know, you're not

you're not gonna lose him. Obviously, he knows he's gonna be the centerpiece and be the focus. But there's a lot of other teams he can go and be the centerpiece. He can do a lot of other teams. He can go and be the centerpiece. You know, he not leaving LA on come on now, you know better than that. Listen to his they didn't think. Leave Orlando. They didn't think Leq was going to leave Orlando. They didn't

think LeBron was going to leave Cleveland. Did you think LeBron was going to leave Miami? Did you think LeBron was going to leave Cleveland a second time? No you didn't. He promised him something. He promised him something. He gave him what he wanted and then he went on about his business. Did you think LeBron James was going to leave Cleveland? Remember he was born an hour north of Cleveland in Akron. He left. Yeah. Nobody saw it coming.

Nobody. Right. I'm trying to think. You don't just up and leave a franchise like that. Especially not an organization like the Los Angeles Lakers. Not when you're the main focal piece of everything. You are going to be the face of the Lakers. You understand that.

He understand that. They traded for you for a reason. He wasn't Wilt. He wasn't Kareem. He wasn't Shaq. He wasn't Bob McAdoo. He wasn't LeBron. He didn't Shaq. He wasn't Bob McAdoo. He wasn't LeBron. He didn't request to go there. He didn't make it. That's my destination of choice.

Hold on, Uncle. Come on now. Let's be sensible, right? You're already in Dallas. You're in a great place. They shock you with a trade. You go to a historic franchise, a winning franchise, like the LA Lakers, with the Kobe Bryant's in play, with the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's in play. Where they're going to worship you. Where there has to be a star. You are that star.

And you think when the time comes, he'd rather go somewhere else? Where else is there to go? Where else would Luca go? So let me ask you a question if Luca went somewhere else he wouldn't be the star? He wouldn't be the center of attention? Yeah he would still be the star but what better place is it than LA? Ain't nothing better than that no disrespect to other places though. For you that's not for him does Luca strike you as a guy that's in awe of that kind of stuff? Remember the European players are different.

You look at Nikola Jokic. He's like, when can I go home? We got the parade. Oh man, I can't go back and get to my horses. They don't see, see you're looking at it through the lens of an American playing for the Lakers. So you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't think Luka values the franchise and what, and what it brings and what it brings to him? The brand of plan for the LA Dodgers?

The brand of plan for the New York Yankees? Or the brand of plan for the LA Dodgers? You don't think he understands that? And Miguel Soto left the Yankees and went to the Mets. That's right around the corner. That ain't them the Yankees. He's not the Yankees. So look, I'm not saying that he is,

but I'm not saying it's not a foregone conclusion that he will resign. That's all I'm saying. And I agree that it's not a foregone conclusion that he's gonna sign. But I think it's very incumbent upon the Lakers that they're hoping and praying. And I'm sure they promised him the heavens and the earth

because if they lose him, it's over. Because remember, they ain't got no draft picks. They just traded a 31 and I think they got what, a 27? They just traded, what, they traded 31st or the 29th? But they got one top lottery lottery, unprotected pick. So they listen, I listen, I'm you'd have been around the game a very long time, very long time. And you know, Juan Soto, not somebody else. So Juan Soto, Juan Soto, even even though even though even if he European players don't have that same feel for playing for historic franchises like the Lakers.

You know Goodwill, he ain't going nowhere. Okay, we'll see. The Spurs have announced they're shutting down Victor Wimby-yami. Victor Wimby-yami, excuse me. Down for the remainder of the season with a deep vein thrombosis. The San Antonio Express News reported that the Spurs are optimistic that Wimby will be ready for next season and that they are not as serious as the issue with Chris Bosh dealt with. If this is an isolated incident, the Spurs believe that it will be closer to what Brandon

Ingram dealt with six years ago. Remember Ocho in 2019? Ingram was diagnosed with a deep venous thrombosis in his right arm. That ended his 2018-19 season, but he went on to win 2019-2020 most improved player. He has not dealt with clotting issues since. Also, Ocho, since he's being shut down, he going to be ineligible for winning defensive player of the year because he won't meet the mandatory minimum of at least 65 games.

Right? What you thinking? I have I have a question on how they able to diagnose how much the severity of the of the issue is and they're they're saying it's not comparable to what Chris Bosh had. They hope is more in line to what Brandon Ingram dealt with and not with Chris Bosh. Remember, Chris Bosh tried to play again,

and it reoccurred. Because normally when you have blood clots, Ocho, you have to take blood thinners. That's something that you stay on for the remainder of your life. So there's a problem because of the cut, because the clots, you take blood thinners, you don't get clotting.

So what does that mean? You get a nick, you get a cut, you could bleed out. So there's always that scare. Also probably I think you'll have a greater chance of a heart attack or something of that nature. My grandmother was on blood thinners because she dealt with clotting and she ended up having a leg amputated

just above the knee. But like I said, Ocho, she was on blood thinners for the rest of her life. And that's normally, if I'm not mistaken, Serena Williams dealt with blood clots also. So it also depends on the severity of where they are. You start getting them in your lungs and boy, you got something to deal with. Any place of a blood clot, Ocho, could be a very dangerous situation.

But they're saying their hope is more in line with what Brandon Ingram dealt with. He missed the remainder of the season. He was able to come back when most improved, hadn't had an issue with it since. Not like Chris Bosh, what eventually led to his early retirement. Now, one of the things I do want to ask you, being that obviously I'm not a health expert, I don't really know the background when it comes to things like this. Is this something that's hereditary? Does it just happen that regardless of age? Well clearly he's 21. Chris Mars was probably what 30? Yeah 30.

My grandmother was in her 60s. So what decipher whether it happens regardless of age? Is it diet, nutrition? I mean when you think about somebody like Wimbum Yama, you think he somebody like Wimbumyama, you think he eats healthy, he always has. I saw some earlier on Twitter today, someone be slick at the mouth and say,

I guarantee you he probably got the vaccine. I'm not saying, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm not sure if that has any type of effect, you know, on whether you get blood clots or not. I've listened up. You've heard stories that it does. It's called it's caused people to to have blood clots that didn't have before have to get the vaccine.

You know, you think it's something that's probably in the family DNA. Other people have probably had clots that were, you know, part of the family and it just it trickles down to everyone else. Without me knowing anything, Ocho, it's really hard to say. You know, it says that blood clots are solid masses that form within the bloodstream when platelets and fibrin, a protein stick together, which cause the clot.

You need some clotting because, hey, you get cut, you want your blood to clot, you start from bleeding. Sometimes you take blood thinner, it thins your blood, there's nothing there to clot it, okay, boom. That's another issue you could have. Obviously you get blood clots, you have a heart attack, you have strokes. It leads to a number of other underlining conditions.

So Ocho, without really knowing, I mean, that would be something that you'd have to have a health experts to be able to, so what in cardiothoracic medicine or something like that to be able to give you a more of a detail to look what what what do they think led to it? Is this something that is hereditary? Oh, I really couldn't tell you. I mean, here what seemingly is a 21 year old healthier male. Yes, sir. And boom, like I said, Chris Voss was probably 30

when he got it. My grandmother was in her late 16, early 70s when she got it. So I don't really know the rhyme or reason. Serena Williams got it. She was in her 20s. And I think if I'm not mistaken, y'all can correct me if I'm wrong,

I think Serena might have had it in her lungs, had one in her lung or something. Maybe it was a calf, I'm not sure. But people get them in a variety, sometimes they get them in their vines, sometimes they get them in their arm, they get them in their lungs. I really don't know, Ochoa.

It's really, really hard to understand. Some things are hereditary. I'm not necessarily certain that blood clots are something Some things are hereditary. I'm not necessarily certain that blood clots are something that aren't hereditary. Right, and that's tough. That's tough for him. That's tough for the Spurs. That's tough for the fans, obviously, in San Antonio.

Hopefully, I'm hoping for a speedy recovery for him. And he's able to come back strong next year and continue to dominate in the way he has so far since he's entered the league. A phenomenal talent, very good and prayers to him and his family as well. Yeah I think I think Serena because I think it happened at Wimbledon I think she stepped on a glass a piece of glass or something she was celebrating a victory I think I couldn't like I said it's probably been 20 years ago so I'm just going off the top of my head made even longer. I think it

was like 20 something years ago and she ended up getting a blood clot if I'm not mistaken in her lungs. I think I think that's what happened. Oh Joe. Like I said. Yes. I asked you said yes that's what happened. I think she stepped on a piece of glass ended up getting a cut ending up developing a blood clot in her lung, which was very, very, very, very serious. So hopefully, like you said, Ocho, thoughts and prayers go out to a speedy recovery for Wimby, 21 years old, such a bright, bright future in front of him.

So hopefully this is only a temporary setback for a major comeback. But you really, like I said, they're hoping one thing, you didn't know. I can assure you when Chris Bosh developed his, no one thought that this was going to force his early retirement. An anonymous NBA GM called out Adam Silver. Adam Silver is obsessed with tournaments. Play in, end season, not All-Star. They've not proven to benefit our league. Ochoa, what you think? The head guy saying that the tournaments trying to create excitement, trying to create viewers

globally as well, and it's not benefiting the league, it's not benefiting the players. How's it not? The end season tournament, isn't the end season tournament allowing the players to make extra money and benefit them by having it being played in season? Well, I guess they're trying to drum up support because here's the thing, old Joe, look, you extra money and benefit them by having it being played in season? Well, I guess you're trying to drum up support because here's the thing, Ochoa, look, you got 11, you got 11, what, 77 billion over the next seven, 11 years. And so we got it because here the thing is kind of like soccer. You know soccer got all the tournaments. They got you the cold play the this one and the that one. Yes champion so

Yes. Yes, so I think that's what you know Adam commission is trying to get a play off that The play in tournament, I mean People didn't like that people thought look and I remember one time when the threepoint competition was thought as gimmick I mean the three-point shot they're like man there's a gimmick now look they they everything is a gimmick until you get used to it the forward pass was a gimmick right yeah for a bad like what do you do that's a gimmick no day gonna be now can you imagine a game of football without the forward pass? What's up, everybody?

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He's trying to do anything he possibly can to get eyeballs to the television To watch these games and so to play in tournament. I mean to play in tournaments are always good You know teams like look Normally one through eight you made the tournament, you know where you are, but now eight through ten You got to play, what? No, seven, no, yeah, no, seven, no, what is it? Seven play 10 and eight and nine play, and then that winner, those two winners play each other.

And that's the, so whoever wins, they're the seventh seed, and then the next two is the, is the winner is the eighth seed. But I get what commission's trying to do. I get what I really do, Ocho. You gotta try something. I mean, you got this kind of money at stake. You gotta try something. I mean, the only thing that I can deal with, the only thing I don't like is the All-Star. Sorry, yeah. The format is not what it should be. And the GM that's complaining, the GM that's complaining about what Adam Silver is doing. Why don't the GMs have ideas as well?

Why don't they have ideas to continue to grow the game? Why don't they have ideas that they wouldn't buy Silver to say, listen, I think we can do this. The players will benefit from it. Us as owners will benefit from it. And those that are watching, they'll enjoy it, instead of saying, or non-Masaurus complaining about what Silver is actually doing. Well, rest is so David Stern, you're like, look, y'all going to either play, or we're

going to claw back some of this money. Which one you want? It's really that simple. You shouldn't have to beg guys to play hard, Ocho, if you making $150, $200, $300 million. I don't really think it's asking too much. I really don't. Now I could be wrong, chat, and y'all might be totally disagree. Oh, the season too long and yada yada yada. I get all that. The season isn't any longer than what it was the last 50 years.

How long have they been playing 82 games forever? Ever day. So this notion about all the games, no, it's not. No, it's not. These guys should be in better shape because they have, they know better. They got better training. They got better nutrition. They got better supplementation. They got around the clock physios and trainers and yada, yada, yada. They got chefs that prepare their food and cook whatever.

So there is no excuse to play hard, to ask you to play hard. You make it 300 million on Joe? Damn. Man, listen. I gotta coach you. Let get it. I don't even need 300. Why don't you give me one? Give me 150. I won't play hard. Cause you know what Ocho? I remember working hard without making $5 a day. Come on man talk to me. You never lose that. I remember working hard making 10, making 16, catching a thousand chickens, making a dollar a thousand, catch 16,000 chickens, make $16.

I worked hard for that little bit of money? What the hell you think I do for 10 million, 20 million, 30, let alone for 100? If you think about it, I think if players, when they make that kind of money if they understood and never forgot where you came from Before you had that kind of money and what you did to get to where you are I think sometimes they lose sight of that. Oh, I Really do you know money money a change in that it changed sometimes change you for the better sometime. It changed you for the worse. I

Think sometimes money makes you more what you already are. What are you? If at your core, what are you when you don't have it? Because now when you get it, it exacerbates what you already are. That's a good one there, boy. That's a good one there, boy. That's why people, you know, they had even, bro, if you got an eating problem and you on a college budget,

what happens if I give you 10, 15, $20 million, don't you? Hey. What, that, that, ooh. Yeah, money, no, money, oh, he changed when he got, no, he wasn't. He was always that. He just needed the money for y'all to see him and his true self. That's all that was.

He changed. He's always been this, he or she, I'm not gonna say he or, just, yes, he or she. Women as well, Women as well. Now, sometimes they ain't got to be money. Sometimes it could be attention. Well, you know what happened when you get that? You never had it before.

And you start getting it from everywhere. You get your big head. You know, you start feeling yourself. You know, you start overvaluing the boy. So, yeah, I get, I get what Adam is trying to do. Adam is trying to grow the game, try to cause, you know, your soccer have these in season tournaments and all this stuff. Uh, we saw, uh, what hockey just had to, uh, what is that called?

The nation? The nation's four? Four nations or something what they call it was Finland, Sweden, Sweden, Canada and the U.S. See? But one thing hockey hockey they be playing hard. Oh they be playing. Once you touch that ice, you strap up. You strap up. They, they, they, they, listen, you know what time it is. I think, Oh Joe, I think, I think a lot, I think the difference, Adam, Adam and the players, he views the player as players as partners.

It's during the end of that partner. I'm partner, I'm partner the player as players, partners. They still really need that partner. I'm partner. I'm partner with the owner. We partners, your employees, just like the NFL, the partners are the broadcast network and the NFL, the employees players, players, and they don't let you, they don't let you forget it as such. And if you do forget, they will remind you. They remind you.

They remind you. Yeah. Yeah. They definitely remind you Joe Steve Carrot told ESPN he wasn't mad at Katie for rejecting the trade to go to state. I don't blame Kevin one bit for not wanting rerun things here. It took so much ish for like, oh, you're jumping on the bandwagon and he's finals MVP two years in a row and it's still, and he still gets criticized.

So why would he want to face all the BS again? And he responded to a comment. That's not the reason why I didn't want to come back. I just didn't want to get traded midway through the season. Do you believe KD? Um, a little bit, a little bit, a little bit of me believes him. Obviously, um, I think even though it was midway through the season, I think through the experiment in Phoenix, I don't think it's worked.

I think it's failed. Obviously thinking of the, oh, you don't think it's an absolute failure. Brooklyn was an absolute failure. That was too. And I think, I mean, for KD, I would, I don't wanna, I hate calling it ring chasing, but I would have went to the better situation, obviously going back over there with Draymond Green and stuff

and trying to run it back and trying to run it back again. And I think the missing piece for them to get them over the hump and probably give them the opportunity in the West would be KD going back because what's going to happen right now in Phoenix? Where you going if you think nothing at all nothing nothing at all, but I think you want to stay there If you know KD know personally and you watch him from afar, you know his story. He loves the game of basketball

He loves the game of basketball If he's gonna be behind the eight ball, he will do he gonna scratch Carl and do everything he can to have success Down there in Arizona and leave out the right way behind the eight ball, he's gonna scratch, crawl, and do everything he can to have success down there in Arizona and leave out the right way. I think the thing, why KD was so successful, he didn't have to worry about anything for a ball. You see, in Brooklyn, he had to be a leader. You see, in Phoenix, he has to be a leader.

Steph took care of that, Draymond took care of that, Clay took care of that. So now he just gets to do what he really wants to do. Which is, ooh. I don't gotta, we have no pep talk. I ain't gotta say pick this dish up. I ain't gotta do none of that. I come in, I do what I do, I go home and chill.

That's what he wants to do. Got no problem with that. A part of me does believe that he didn't want to get traded during the season and say he wanted to ride this out with his boys. Ride out what? I mean, what do you think is going to be? They started it off. They thought it was going to work. They thought the trio with Bill, Devin Booker and him would work some magic out there in the West.

It hasn't worked itself out. But I just think the fact that he's bounced around from Brooklyn, you know went to Golden State He didn't want to continue that same trend and be like here we go again, you know at some point Hey, what's gonna happen? They go probably when you relationships on you get tired of moving on man You get tired of moving on and sometimes you like, you know what? I'm just stick this one out I know it ain't working about but I'm gonna stick it out and do it everything I can until it's time to leave. And I can tell you when he's leaving,

in the goddamn summer. Okay, so what'd you do? All you did was lay there inevitable. You was miserable for another three, four months. Cause they not going nowhere, they not doing anything. They don't have any defense. They're just like the Lakers. They got no defense. They got all those scores. I mean, you got two guys that really is the same guy. Booker's more athletic now. I think he's a better player.

I don't think he is. I know he's a better player than Bradley Beal. But that said, you got all that scoring. Where your defense at? Now, they get high. You high you got on a given not even any any of those guys Can go get 30 or 40 now They've relegated Bradley Beal to the bench because they're hoping he would wave with no trade clause and then they can trade him and get Jimmy Butler, but he's like nah, I put that in there for a reason And if you put that in there for a reason, I want to go anywhere I am I not going anywhere. So whether you want me or not, you know what I'm saying? Don't tell you, hey, sometimes it's cheaper to keep it.

That's crazy how players, you see the leverage NBA players have when it comes to stuff like that? He has a no trade, he don't have no leverage. He got a no trade clause. He and LeBron James, one of the two players that have no trade. So if he didn't have that, he's like, that's what's going on. I know that's why I said leverage.

That's all I meant. But you mean to titter at me? You don't want me because I'm not as plain as well as you thought I should. I'm trying to do everything I can. Obviously injuries are hampered me, performing to what we're used to seeing me play like. And I just got here and you trying to get me

to uproot my family? Man, child, please. Put this no trade clause in there. It's in there for a reason. There's a reason why. in there for a reason. There's a reason why because there's a chance they got to be coming off the bench. They got to be coming off the bench. Yeah. That'd be like you. They like, man, we want to move. You're like, nah, I ain't going. Okay. All right, yo, you just like, you do your third receiver.

Third who? You're the third. You. Third who? You're the third receiver now. You might be talking about men. Third receiver. You got a no trade, and they want to trade you, you don't want to go. Okay, you're the third receiver. I guess you go in there, I guess you go in there,

get your little three, four targets on Sunday, and come on home. Oh, hey. Hey, that's a lot of cardio, boy. That's a lot of cardio. Damn. I never looked at it like that. But when you're making that kind of money,

oh, you want me to play what? Wait a minute, let me look at this, how much I make it and that's all you want me to do. OK, then. I mean, the competitive will be. I mean, that's. Yeah. But I'm not going to do anything to jeopardize. Right, that money, right?

Oh, yeah, most of yeah. I mean Bradley Beard probably making 45, 50 million dollars a year. So okay, this all y'all want me to do is get y'all 28 minutes a night, 30 minutes a night. And there ain't really no strain on me because I'm coming off the bench. I mean, look, he's going to get me coming off the bench. A lot of times you coming in there, you know, that's the second you're going against the second unit. So I guess they say you can get your points that way. Cause you know, the ball's going to go to KD first. Those are your first two options. Bradley Beale has never been a third option. He's always been, he was, he was one, two,

when he had John Wall, when John Wall left, it was him, you know, uh, I guess he had, I think he had Russ, he, no, he had Russ for a year or two, but he was the first scoring option, even though Russ had the ball in his hand. So he's never been like this. It never been a situation where he's not used to being able to get as many shots as he want. He's third option.

No matter how you look at it, oh, that's it. He wanted the best third option at the end of the day, you still third option. You know what, even has a starter. And I'm thinking about if I was a starter as a number one, let's say I was the number one in Cincinnati. Same scenario. I go to New England.

And I'm the third or I'm the fourth guy, because the options in front of me are better at that time in that specific system. That does something to your psyche. You know that, right? It does something to your.. You know that, right? It does something to your psyche. I would take your word for it. I mean, I wouldn't know like that. I wouldn't know third option, Ocho. But I take your word for it.

I believe you. You know, some system. I got this. What you want me to do? How you want me to? I can't empathize for a situation I have a bit. I have empathy for you. So you know what I'm gonna do, Ocho?

You know empathy? Empathy requires you to divorce your ego, separate your ego, and see yourself in a similar situation. So you know what, Ocho? Yeah, I know. I'm a third of the aisle, man. That's a moving guy, man. Pretend you're Bradley Beer right now.

I go from somewhere where I'm able to play freely. Now I'm coming off a bench where I can't take a high volume of shots, so now I'm messed up up here. Not only am I messed up up here, when I do get on the court, sometimes I might hesitate because I'm not in rhythm. That means my shot efficiency and shot selection has to be that much better. It does something to you. True.

Well, look, I'm going to tell you I, I think when I got back to Denver, Rod was clearly the number one. Easy Ed was coming off a severe leg injury. So, you know, it was basically me and Ed fighting for two, three. Oh, so you have been in that position where you were the three. No, I was always, I finished, no, I've never finished when I was on the team.

I'd never finished. No, once I became what I became, I'd never finished worse than second. I understand that. But when you say you talking from a statistical standpoint, but I'm just saying you were the, you were the three, no matter what. How you, I was not the three. I was two. Rod Smith and McCaffrey were the ones. Were the one and two. And Rod was one, I was two, and I was two A,

and Rod A was two B. I don't know what you talking about. It sounds good. It sounds good. Hey, they know y'all better, you better check it. You better check it. Hop, hey, you tell me the time you've seen a third receiver get 214 in the game. What happened when somebody hurt?

I mean, what third receiver you know? Just saying. Okay, let's get right into it. The Athletic dropped an article today about the MAF wanting Luca to use the injury time off to improve conditioning. According to the article, in November Luca missed five games with what the Mavericks announced was a right wrist sprain. That injury classification was not entirely true, being reported.

In reality, Luca was supposed to use the time off to improve his conditioning. Team sources said it was the one of the straws that broke the proverbial camel's back because he decided not to use the time off for conditioning. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. That's what we reported. This will be Lucas first season playing fewer than 60 games. Now here's the kicker where everybody's like, well, hold on, wait a minute.

On the other side, AD is six years older and has failed to compete in 60 games for of the last six seasons. Well, something ain't making no sense, huh? Something is not making any sense because you're trading for somebody and you trade your better player that's played over 60 games for most of his career outside of one and you're bringing somebody that hasn't played in over 60 games four out of five of the last

season. So something may make this. That's why that's why I think and I still think today whatever the true reason is that they traded Luka it hasn't been said yet. I believe two things can be true. I believe they had grown frustration. We're trying to tell Luka about his conditioning. I also believe they didn't want to pay him $450 million.

Hey, hey, even though I just started watching basketball, what you make, when you name the top three players in the NBA right now, is Luca one of the three? When he that is best, yes. I don't need to hear no more. Hey, hey, but let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of argument, let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of argument, um, coach Belichick, he resigned. Tom Brady is in year, year five.

He'd already won three suit bowls, but he resides. Uh, Andy Reed after last year said, you know what? I'm good. You don't think people would go like, well, hold on. Why you still got a guy that's in his prime? What's really going on? And I think the thing for me, my, my attention, my, I got like, hold on.

You mean to tell me Rick Carlisle has a guy that's 23 years of age and he don't want to contract the extension? He'd rather go coach Indiana And it don't make no sense that would recall out because even if you do go to Indiana Even if you do go to Indiana, you still don't have a player like what you got over here in Dallas I'll stress that that not as a coach As a coach, you notice you whether it be football for Andy Reed, he had done the,

Donovan McNabb. He's never had, we never had a Patrick Mahomes. Yes. Players like this come around every so often, especially one as special as Luca. You don't leave and go somewhere else because of problems with conditioning, things that can actually be fixed, especially when the product itself, when it touches the court, it gives you that kind of goddamn production But they don't but see you said it can be fixed they were wanting him to fix it and he wasn't fixing it

That's the thing. Oh Joe what happens where if the team if the team says oh Joe We want you to be here on camp We want you a at some point in time, they're gonna get tired of telling you. Now, let's just fast forward right quick to Aaron Rodgers. What did Aaron Rodgers say this year? He said at the beginning of season, if we don't get this thing right,

we're all gonna be out of here. Joe Douglas is gone, Robert Sala is gone, Nathaniel Hacken is gone, Aaron Rodgers is gone. They're looking at it like, hold on, if we don't get this thing right with Luca, can I ask you a question? We all going to be up out of here. When it comes to the game of basketball, you know, basketball, when it comes to the,

any sport, it's all about what? Your superstars, and they have to do what? Consistently outside of updating your resume, you have to perform. You have to perform at any point in Lucas career. Have this number decrease? No, what we are, what we what we what what are we talking about? Look, can you imagine then too fat, too slow? The number remained the same.

Here's the thing. I The number remained the same. It has been consistent. I get that. But everybody, see, everybody keeps saying, do this, do this. That's easy to say when it's not your 450 million. See, it's easy to say, I would do this. It's not your money. People leave a restaurant and don't go back when they don't get good service on a $60 tab. What you gonna do when you got 400 million and that money is fully guaranteed? Because a lot of times if you get a bad meal on show, they'll say, you know what? Mr. Mr. Johnson,

we're gonna take this off. This one's on us. When you sign a $400 million contract, players ain't give you ass-ish back. But the one thing players are players are played based on performance on the hardwood on the hardwood. His performance has always been, he is always the cream of the crop. He's always been a list in almost every statistical category. So you're not going to, okay. You can't say it because they actually did it. You're not gonna tell me, me, that's why I'm not a GM.

That's why I'm not in that position. That's not why I'm sitting in that seat, in that high seat making judgment calls on who I should keep and who I should play. Because there ain't no way in hell I'm trading Luka and nothing when it comes to producing on the court is going wrong, whether he's fat, whether he's skinny, whether he's out of shape. Because if you're doing what you're doing while you're out of shape, imagine if I could get the

right people with you or convince you to get in shape. Man. He had the right people. You do realize that when they hire a superstar, when you get a superstar, they bring your people on. They let you bring your people on, right? Okay. You do realize that. It ain't like football yeah Tom Brady had a very unique circumstance where he got had his guy right there with him but most football teams don't do that NBA teams allow you to do that you know what I can't say Mike Massey Mike Macias travel with LeBron he always has Randy Mims travel with LeBron, always has. So you said the right people, hell he got the people that he wanted in the rally.

He's in the right place now, but with some of that. Sure. Well, I hope he looks at LeBron like, well damn, this man played like this since year 22. LeBron ain't gonna let him take no shortcuts. Not over there. Absolutely not. Not only are you able to watch, but you're able to see someone that's done it for 20

some odd years at the highest level and is actually the NBA's all time leading score. Lucas looking at that, LeBron is talking to him. You know, they're going to have that talk. I know he had that talk before because all the rumblings through the media. I would love that conversation. I would love insight on how you've been able to do it this goddamn long. How about I do, you know what, how about I change up a routine? How about I tighten up on my discipline and my structure and the way I do things

and my approach to the game? Well, if I'm already great and I'm somewhat lazy in a sense in my approach to preparing for the game and I'm playing extremely well, what happens if I tighten up the mother f***** almost curse. What happened if I tighten up the bolts and approach the game of basketball the way LeBron does? Ain't no telling what I can achieve and I'm already great right now. But everybody doesn't have that mindset. Oh Joe, I think LeBron came in. I think he had a couple of goals.

He wanted to be considered the best player to ever play the game. He wanted to play as long as he possibly could. So he took the steps very early on. If you hear people talk about when LeBron was in high school, you hear people talk about LeBron when he first got there, how everything is so routine is so regimented from his rest time to his nap to his stretching, getting to the arena so many guys hours early, getting his work, getting his lift in, getting his shots up, everything for 22 years.

Structure, structure, structure, structure, discipline, discipline, discipline, discipline. Everybody doesn't want that, don't you? Right, but this is another one. Ron didn't have a goddamn choice. Understand coming out of high school, the odds were stacked against him. All the pressure was on him. The expectations were out the roof.

So he had no choice but to approach the game of basketball being the chosen one coming out of high school. Hell, they spent 10th grade, I think you said it yourself. 10th grade, he could have came and played in the NBA right then and now. He could have came and played in the NBA right then and now. I think a situation, when you look at Luca, Luca had been a professional since he was 16. He had a lot of expectations placed on him.

People thought he was going to be good. I didn't think he was going to be this good because everybody said, no, he can play. I was like, he played he played and he said when he said it's easier to score in the NBA than it is in Europe I say this kid out his damn mind and lo and behold he ain't making me out to be a liar he never averaged the point amount of points he's averaged over Europe as he's doing here. He's averaged 29 points a game for his career. He's averaged, has the second highest playoff score in average. But I enjoy it.

Over in Europe where he was playing, I can't, I can't remember the way. I don't remember exactly where. Do you think they played better defense? You think that's what it is? Are the, are the dimensions of the court a little smaller? There has to be some type of difference. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that the game is not as free flowing as it is here.

I mean, you run plays, they don't let you do a whole lot of ISO over there. So, you know, it's kind of like Coach Smith, Dean Smith, Coach Smith, when he's at North Carolina. The only guy that can keep Michael Jordan under 20 points a game was Coach Smith because of his obvious, didn't allow him to get loose. Nobody saw Michael being able to do what he did in the NBA based on what he did in

college. Same thing with Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis was a defensive player at Kentucky. I didn't see, I didn't see this kind of offense from him. Now he was a sensational defensive player. I'm surprised he doesn't have a defensive player of the year already considering the way he can slide, the way he can challenge at multiple positions, guard multiple positions, tremendous in the pick and roll, weak side help. I'm surprised he doesn't have one already. But it's his offense that's been most impressive. He went to major, mainly a put back dunk, law player, till now he has a mid-range. Now he can take it all the way out to three. player to not he has a mid-range now he can take it all the way out to three Luca you look at that look you like well yeah he get some points he can lay a

18 19 points a game but look at you play it again well he come over here and play against grown me and the average 34 game. Hey, then tell me if I'm wrong. So when I watch Luca play all his damn moves look like it's in slow motion or am I tripping? Not only do his moves look like it's in slow motion. Or am I tripping? Not only do his moves look like it's in slow motion, they work every goddamn time. He has no quick twitch fibers like a Kyrie or, I'm trying to think, or who else is really explosive? Russell Westbrook, obviously he's a bigger man.

Like Jarman Rand. Jarman Rand, no he's a bigger man. Like Jarman. Jarman Rand, no, he don't have that explosive like those guys. No, he doesn't. And the moves that he does have, they work every time and I swear, maybe it's cause I'm watching from TV, it look like it's in slow motion. Yeah, yeah, he is.

And that's why you can't time him up. Because while you done jump, he ain't left the ground yet. And when you on your way up, when you on your way down, he on his way up. So now he gonna get an M1 or he gonna get you to filing so he could he plays at his pace he's not going to allow you to speed him up and make him play at your pace he's really good uh he can get off any shot he's a lot bigger than you think yeah what's up everybody I'm Trevon Edwards co-host of the new podcast G-O-T-E, greatest of their era with Steph Curry. You don't want to miss our first episode that's out

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It's a lot bigger body than you think and it's stronger than you think because you're looking at it and you're like, I don't see not one definition. The only definition I see is that if you got a dictionary in your hand, definition is in there. That's the only definition I see is that if you got a dictionary in your hand, definition is in there. That's the only definition I see. But it's the same thing with Yoke. When you look at Yoke, you don't see no definition, but he give you 30, 20, 20, 18. Every time I watch them play, why he always look tired the whole game.

It looks like he breathing hard the whole game, but everybody take a shot. Yeah. Move me, babe. Yeah. It's working. But look, I think the thing is that's a lot. I mean, look, we're going to see when I'm trying to thank the next guy that's available. That's really good.

That can get this kind of money. You said you said I'm Shay. Shay can't get a supermax like this because he got traded. Remember? See Ant-Man got Ant-Man has been drafted to Timberwolves. Ant-Man or Wimby? Wimby. Wimby. Wimby definitely finna get it.

He definitely finna. Well, Ant-Man ain't no reason he should get it too. I know the wolves ain't finna pull no slick stuff over there. They ain't got no choice but to give it to him. Wimby Yammer becomes a super max eligible player, meaning his rookie extension-based salary will be 30% of the salary cap instead of 25. When he enters his eighth year, he will be 35% max eligible

as opposed to the traditional 30%. So whatever the cap is, he's entitled to 35% of that. Damn. So he's available for 20, 30% of it, of his rookie extension. Hey, hey. That's what, so he's gonna be worth 35% of that. No, he's worth 30% of that.

He's worth every penny. Hey, Wimby is everything advertised. Right. Everything advertised. Every bit of it. So whatever penny he get, he's earning every bit of it. Watching Ant-Man play, every penny he's gonna get, he's worth every bit of it. Watching Ant-Man play. Every penny he's gonna get, he's worth every bit.

Yeah, Wimby is definitely going to be the first $400 million player. And speaking of, remember I told you I was gonna start investing in going to the basketball game so I can be better suited. Jason Taylor about to hit that. He just bought pain. I be thinking about looking what you,

Jason Taylor just got, he just got three what 320 He 26 But that's what but what about those next four years It's 455 he'll be 31 so. So what's his next contract go be? His next contract might be a, he might hit that 400. He just got 320. It's hard to see a scenario. He's going to be 31. Oh Joe for him not to get another supermax. That's nasty. That's nasty work. That's nasty, but that's nasty work. Yeah. Why? That that that nasty work. Why? It's, it's, uh, it's good.

Yeah, it's great money. You got to understand you, you want, you, you wanted the best in the world. You wanted to 1% us now. And, you know, I, and that's what I meant to tell you, right? Before we go on. Well, I just, I just got course side tickets. Uh, the Timberwolvesves play the Heat March 7th. Yeah, March 7th or March 6th, something like that.

Whatever it was. I'm sitting right next to the bench. I'm sitting right next to Bam, right? I'm a church at Anthony Edwards the whole game. The whole game, the same way Spike Lee do. And I want to make sure I'm better suited to talk about basketball so I can sound like Tim Legger. So I can sound like Doris Burke or George Zedano. And when I come on here and you wonder

what the hell happened to me and why I'm talking about the game the way I am, as if I played it all my life, you know why. Okay, Ocho, so you know the discourse about the NBA wouldn't be complete without KD chiming in. KD, this is what he tweeted. I think it's more fun to complain about the NBA wouldn't be complete without KD chiming in. KD, this is what he tweeted. I think it's more fun to complain about the NBA than actually watch it.

Crazy, cancel All-Star weekend. Let's just give everybody a break since we're so miserable around this time. Oh Joe, what you got? I understand KD's frustrations. I wouldn't even call it frustration. I think he's more so, listen, it's All-Star break. We ain't trying to hurt ourselves.

We've tried to create different formats to appease you as fans, to appease the viewers, and it's not working. Well, you know what? How about we just cancel all of this because no matter what we do, we can't make y'all happy. We failed at it. Adam Silver has failed.

The players have failed. We don't wanna play because I think, for one, as much as the players make, in anything that you do, whether it be in the corporate world, whether it be in sports, anytime money is involved and it's incentivized, it makes you want to do whatever it is a little bit harder. Even though they make so much. That's why that was my suggestion yesterday. Have some type of format where it's incentivized where they can make a huge chunk of change even though they make millions during the regular season Because outside of that they already have a few money. So trying to get into play at the All-Star game ain't gonna happen That's why they shooting 103

and throwing 200 alley-oops Look He obviously Katie was being sarcastic. He's tired of hearing the criticism about the All-Star game and the All-Star game format and about not playing hard and things of that nature. KD is one of the ones he hear what people saying and is his product and he's proud of the type of game that he plays, but everybody is not proud of the type of performance that a lot of the guys give at the All-Star game. And, you know, they voice their displeasure.

It'd have been interesting to see, I would have loved to have seen, had Twitter been around in the 90s, early 2000s, what would have been said. I think now, because you have social media, Ocho, and we don't have to wait. We don't have to just get our information because we can go online. If we got a problem with something, how could I, if I didn't like something, how could I say it, Ocho? I can say it, but

at the barbershop now I can get online. I can get on play up. I can get on play up profile. Uh, his, his, uh, timeline. You suck. And honestly, honestly, I think it's a great thing. I think it's a great thing. I think it's a great thing for fans. It gives everybody a voice, gives everybody reason, whether right or wrong, whether right or wrong. And for those, and for players, especially athletes, elite athletes, like a KD, LeBron as well, sometimes they engage back.

I think for people that are fans of certain players or just fan of whatever sports you play, just knowing that you can, even if they don't respond, knowing that you can ask someone that you like or dislike and send a message, whether they see it or not, I think that's one of the greatest feelings in the world. I think it is. I really think it is. I really think it is. I mean, obviously, it happened.

I agree. I agree. No, I'm saying I agree with you. You know, some guys, some guys don't pay any attention. Katie is one of those guys that he's going to respond if he thinks you've been this. I mean, he don't respond to all things, but he responds to enough of them. He's one of the guys that probably respond more than anybody. Maybe any professional athlete that I know. And not just any athlete.

We talk about one of the best to ever play the game. You got one of the best to ever play the game that's great right now, that takes his time out to engage with people, whether it's negative or positive. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a great thing. And I wish more players were like that. And most of them that have accounts,

they have other people running their account. You know, all they do is post, you know, stuff that is promoting things that they are doing, you know, sponsors and endorsements and stuff like that, or whatever, clothing or, you know, whatever it may be. But people like KD and LeBron at times. They actually took they turd back and forth LeBron sits out the all-star game. This is his first time missing an all-star game in his career You're 22. He's a 21 time starter player because of lingering discomfort in his left foot and ankle

Do you agree LeBron accepted knowing he probably wouldn't play? Absolutely, but I'll get up been there 20 times before that. Had nothing, had nothing. Okay. He's earned the right to be able to sit out in the all-star game, but they're not going to be playing serious anyway. It's okay. Exactly.

Sit out, now let Norman Powell get an all-star game selection. Just like Yonis. Yonis knew he had a little slight injury. He pulled out, now Trey Young is a four time all star selection. That's the problem that I got. You're right. He earned it right. But he didn't cut, he didn't get it until Saturday. You know, you're not going to play. Why you block somebody else from playing? That's just like, just like you, Ocho, you know, you're not going to play in the

Pro Bowl. Some of your first first alternate but you go on that now hold on now what if LeBron even though he wasn't playing wanted to be there and be part of the team he was there did you not see the uniform? Okay I see what you mean he should have pulled out completely in general for now to me he could they I should have listened to me. He could, they obviously, they still gonna let him come. He's still the biggest, biggest name in basketball. Sure. They gonna love the love to have him come.

Let him walk, get introduced in year 21 and year 22, a 21 time starter NBA starting for LeBron James. Give him that. Let the fans see that. LeBron James. Give him that. Let the fans see that. LeBron, come on, man. Norman Powell deserved it. I thought Norman, he didn't deserve it. He earned the right to be there

with the way he's played in the first half of the season. Now, I ain't breaking news to the chat. Y'all know I'm the biggest fan of LeBron's biggest supporter. Being that, but I disagree. I wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly, and stringently disagree with the decision to make this announcement the day of the All-Star game.

He knew he wasn't gonna play. Y'all think LeBron just made this decision today? Really? Nobody thinks that. And honestly, I can't even be mad at him because we talk, this is LeBron. I mean, this is LeBron. If there's one person that, you know what,

if I'm not gonna play, I've earned every right to decide Sunday morning or decide Saturday morning. No, LeBron James is not bigger than a game of basketball. I didn't say he was bigger than a game of basketball. So you're talking about he's learned the right? No, he hasn't. No, LeBron James is not bigger than a game of basketball. I didn't say he was bigger than a game of basketball. So you're talking about he's learned it right? No, he hasn't. No, he hasn't. No. Oh, no, no. I vehemently disagree with you on that.

If LeBron James, the all time leading scorer in the NBA decides, you know what, at the All-Star game this Sunday, you know, I don't want to play. He should be able To you see no see night. No, no, I'm not saying he doesn't have that right I'm saying he doesn't have the right to do that Sunday the day of the game make that decision on Thursday When you tell you telling me telling it Leave Shaq team

Now Shaq team only has seven players. They're down a man. Seven players, five players, four players. They ain't even playing for real. They might want to play one on one. You just said it yourself. They just shoot three. They might just play horse.

OK, so he can't do he can do that. OK, do what Yon is did. Yon says, I'm not going to play. And guess what? Trey got to come. Norman Powell would have got a question to come. What if what if it was a lingering issue and it didn't flare up until he got there?

Man, stop it, Ocho. I'm just asking the question. That's a possibility. It did. So let me ask you, it lingered. So what did he do to cause it to flare up? You know shit be acting up now when you hit your 40s now. What did he do to cause it to linger? Did he play basketball in between Wednesday night? He just played Wednesday. Wednesday. Wednesday. He played Wednesday, remember?

So Thursday was off, Friday he was off, Saturday he was off. Sunday he makes an announcement that he's not going to play an All-Star game. So I'm just trying to figure out what did he do in between Wednesday after the game and today that caused the- That's a good question. That's a good question. I will text him and ask him, but, you know, I kind of, I agree and disagree with you, honestly,

because it is LeBron and the fact that he's made the All-Star for his 20, 21st year, if I'm not mistaken. 21 straight stars. You know, and he wanted to actually be there, even if he didn't play. And I think that's why he didn't pull out. Ocho, he could have Yannis is there. You keep Yannis.

We talk about LeBron. LeBron doesn't want to do what Yannis is doing. You said he wanted to be there. He could have come and do exactly what he did. Nothing. Well, I, I, I, listen, I, I, I agree with you to an extent. And there's another side of me that doesn't agree with you. So I, I, I get what you're saying.

And just as what Ron's got to do. I'm just trying to figure. That's all I'm, Ocho. Yes, sir. That's what I'm saying. You know, I don't want to play. But don't show, Ocho, you know good will. If you've been sick for three days,

why don't you show up on the people job and then go walk into work? I ain't gonna be able to come to work today. You could have called in and do that. So we could have had somebody come in and fill up your job. Now you leaving, we ain't got nobody to fill the spot. Why did you come tell, Ocho, why did you come tell me you not gonna be able to work today? You can come and do that.

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