Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Wizards DRAFT AJ Dybansta + Cam Boozer RESPONDS to Not Being 1st OVERALL Pick + AJ Dybansta says He AND Trae Young WILL Work + Warriors Owner AND GM at ODDS Over DRAFT Pick + Lakers TURNING Into FOREIGN Team

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Wizards drafting AJ Dybansta, Carlos Boozer on not being 1st overall and AJ says him and Trae Young will work. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction04:25 - NBA 2026 Draft28:30 - Cam Boozer asked about not being in the 1st overall pick conversation51:50 - AJ Dybansta on how he and Trae Young can work together56:40 - Warriors owner and GM disagreed on what to do with their pick1:05:35 - Lakers take 6’6 guard from Spain (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Number two, Cameron Boozer, the six foot eight, freshman of Duke goes number four, number three. And Caleb Wilson, the Chicago Bulls, Caleb Wilson goes to Chicago Bull, a six foot nine freshman also. AJ DeBonsor, we watched him play. He's unbelievable handling the ball, something that he spoke about that he wanted to be the number of an overall draft pick. Hey, remember, Cooper Flagg was really supposed to be in this draft, Joe and Ocho. He reclassified. Yeah, he wouldn't have been the number one.

pick, I'll tell you that. You don't think so? No. All I'm saying is he reclassified. He was supposed to be in this draft. He reclassified. That's all I'm saying. I don't know what would or wouldn't happen. That's better long Joe expertise. But when you look at AJ DeBons, a 6'9 guy, he's going to

what seems to be a pretty decent team. He got Trey Young that recently resigned. We don't know what's going to happen with AD. It's being reported. His agent is looking for a contract extension. He may or may not receive or he may get extension and then be traded.

We don't know, but let's talk about DeBonza and going to the Washington Wither, Joe. What do you like about this move? Man, hey, listen, I love this move, Uncle Ocho, because he's a rookie coming in playing with, you know, two arguably, not arguably, but Hall of Famers and Anthony Davis

and Trey Young. Two guys who can make his, who can really bring out his full game. You know what I mean? It won't be a whole lot of pressure on him to come in and average no 25. you know what I mean even though the Wizards

haven't been in the postseason in the past few years I'm telling y'all I think they can make the biggest jump in the Eastern Conference if Trey and AD obviously if they can stay healthy I think they got a great chance

they got guys who can score the rock who can shoot the rock who can play make who can defend and I just think AJ is a total package bro we've been talking about this for a past few months now hell the past year everybody knew that man was going to go one I don't give a damn who had the number one pick

that man was going one. So great fit. I'm happy for him. I can't wait to see these young dudes in action. Okay, Ocho, you know, the Summer League, I'm going to be down there in Vegas for the Summer League. We'll let your boy know it. I'll be, hey.

Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Y'all ain't going to leave me. I'm coming, too. Hey, don't leave me, but I'm coming. Hey, you're always talking about you going to do something. You ain't coming because the Summer League going to be going to Ocho while the World Cup. Yeah.

The World Cup. Wait, hold on, Joe, when's the summer league? What's the date? It's all, it starts in July, July, like July, 8th, 9th, I'll wait to about like the 20th or something like that. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I'm going to swing through there. Remember that by the time it gets to July,

remember, it ain't going to be that many games, man. So, so if anything, you know, I'm going to come out there, cheer with y'all, check out some of the young bucks or something they could do. Hey, chat, y'all hear these old two country bombs here. Talk about July. What? It's July.

Oh, man, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. I already know, you know, Joe, Joe, I mean, he deep off in Arkansas. But, you know, y'all know Joe country. I'm talking about like corn calm in the outhouse country.

Yeah. I go, that Joe. I'm excited. You know, watch the little bit. Look, I tried to catch, obviously, I tried to catch the BYU games when they're on television. Yeah. Watching him because, you know, his projections. I was at ESPN when he came on and declared where it was going.

I'm like, BYU, then it dawned him, hey, BYU got money too. They got people that got money, N-I-L. What? He went to a prep school lot there. So it kind of was a natural fit. He's very familiar with that area, very familiar. And, hey, he's like, you know what? They have, I think Danny Aange went the highest.

But Danny Aege was also an outstanding baseball player, got drafted, if I'm not mistaken, by the Blue Jays. It's like, look, me going to. to Duke, me going to North Carolina. What makes me any different than anybody else that's going there and end up going number one overall? Absolutely. He wanted to be a lot of times you see guys now

want to be unique, Ocho and Joe. They're like, I want to make my own legacy. Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, all these teams. They're usually, they got legacies. Yeah. BYU ain't really got a whole they got Danny Aange, they got Jimmer for Dent, they got

another guy from BYU, Danny Ains, Jimmer for Dent, Sean Bradley, I think. So it ain't a whole lot of, as far as legacy-wise, with that program. He said, I go there, I'm automatically a Mount Rushmore player. You know, and not too many players, especially when you're that young, had that kind of confidence.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter where I go to school. The show is going to come to me. Wherever I go, that's what I'm going to put bust in to see that. Obviously, the bonds are understanding he's that type of player. We really didn't matter what school I went to. They was coming to see me regardless. Well, listen, listen.

I wish you to witness of battle state. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, he still would have went number one. He still would have went number one, Ojo, you're absolutely right. Hey, all that's cute and fine and dandy, but damn it, the bag that BYU was paying, and it wasn't many teams willing to pay that.

You know, it's reported that he got $7 to $8,000 or $8 to $9 million, you know, just for that one year. Yeah. So, hey, hey, y'all paying for me to come to prep school down here? I'm in Utah prep. Hold on, hold on. Now y'all gonna pay for me to go on to BYU. What?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought, hey, look, I ain't gonna lie. I thought the jazz was gonna try to jump through a few hoops tonight to be able to draft him. But, hey, man, if Washington made the right pick. Okay, oh, Joe, I promise you. He liked that, bro. And, guys, I think his contract is $69 million for the four years.

So, you know, he's a nice little rookie bag. Yeah, yeah, that night a little rookie bag. Nice, nice. And, you know, you know, the story about his father, I think his father's from, The Congo. Yeah. And because tonight, hell, I, I just, obviously I know AJ are initials, but I really didn't know his name.

And he just, like, he wanted, he wanted to commission to introduce his name in honor of his father because he's a junior. Yeah. I thought that, I thought that was, that was very, very, very special to see these young men and to thank all the family, the village that behind them, that help push and guide them in the direction that they are and be able to reach this achievement. Because this is a, I mean, these kids are 18, 19, 20 years of age and they've been dreaming of this moment their entire lives.

Yep, man. It's right here in front of you. And obviously you realize I did not get here by myself. Yeah. This is an opportunity to thank my mom, to thank my sister or my grandma or my mom, excuse me, my father. It's nice, you know what, it's really nice to see some fathers get some sit on stage. Because you know his mom, happy Mother's Day, happy birthday, mom, happy, you know, and

like, oh, what day, die. You throw us a time. We go on about our business. Yeah, well, watching the draft, I was, obviously watching the World Cup and watching the draft at the same time. There are a lot of two-parent household kids that got drafted this season. I saw that. You saw that old Joe. A lot of two-parent household, you know, kids getting drafted. Yeah, there's no shot. They make a scene like we don't, we ain't never got no two parents in the house.

Right, right. A bunch of two parents. Right. Hey. On another note, too, real quick. Real quick, Uncle Joe. Let DeBanzas, as great as he is, as great as he was in college and understanding how good he's going to be, probably in Washington, depending on how he fits in. Now, coming out to East, can he really make a difference, you know, in that East and get the, and get the withers to maybe say the play in or maybe get them to a seed and having to deal with, obviously, you got the Knicks, you know, you got, you got the heat, you know, who now have Yonnes and probably going to have Clay, wait, can I say that?

Am I let? Oh, man, come on, man, come on. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. Listen, Ocho, I understand what you're saying. I think he is a guy. Look, there's been a handful of rookies who come into the league and right away take their team to the postseason. I think he can be in their group. You know what I mean?

I think he got that type of talent. Not only does he have that type of talent, but it's the guys around him. He has proven guys around him. And I think that's the difference, Joe and Ocho, is that he's not going to be asked to do what a lot of other rookies has been asked to do. He has all-MBA players. He has all-star players already on that roster. We know Trey is a 20-10 guy. We know AD as a 20 and 10 guy

can give you three blocks, can anchor your defense. He just needs to come in and be AJ DeBanza. We're not asking you to give us 25 to 30 a night. We just, hey, give us a solid 16 to 20. Can you give us a solid 16 to 20? Yeah. Efficient. Can you do that?

If he could do, and also they got SAR, SAR's going to need to step up and be a little bit better because everybody keeps talking about Bronny, brawny, brawny, and he's gone under the radar and hadn't been doing a whole lot since he arrived there. He's going to need to do a little bit more, Joe, as the second pick in the entire draft.

He's going to need to step up now. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. And I think this year will be that year for Saur. Okay, Ocho, he can kind of play the background now. Versus, you know, when he first got there, they had him play in lead, lead singer, hell. He wasn't ready for that.

You know what I mean? But now he'll have a plet of guys who he can learn from who he can playoff that will make his game a lot easier because I think what's underrated about AJ is that not only did he lead the Division 1 NCAA and scoring, but he did it at an efficient rate at like 52, 53%. And when you got a guy, so he ain't no guy just coming out hosting up shots.

Like he has great footwork. He's not jacking up shot. Yeah, you're right, Joe. He know how to get to his spots. He plays the right way. He's an underrated passer. He can defend with that long, that 6-9 frame, them 7-1 wing span. I just think he's going to fit right in. and I think the Wizards will make one of the biggest jumps in the Eastern Conference.

Yeah, see, they were trying to make Sarah Lee Singer. He need to be on the symbols for the tambourine. Hey, yeah, hey, hey, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to let you do the drums. We're not going to let you do the horns. We're not doing anything. You should be wearing the back. So if you mess up a key, hey, don't nobody know it.

Yeah, man, yeah, yeah. But he's got to improve. But I think with those three, they're that big three, with the Bonza, trade, and AD. This is contingent on AD being there. We don't know what their game plan is, but I would like to think

they're probably tired of having a building that's half empty. Yeah. At least with AD you're probably going to, you know, you can win some games and get the fans to come back. Oh, oh.

Oh, Joe, them people come to see AJ DeBonsker, bro. Yeah, yeah. Listen, if I'm in D.C., I have season tickets. I'll be trying to get my hand on them tickets, bro. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, You think he polarizing like that to put rust in the shit like that? Ocho, that boy nice, man.

And his frame, listen, and his frame is so prototypical for today's game at 6-9 who can do everything. Shoot the three. Get to the midi. Dunk, get to, get by you. Finish at the rim above the rim. We got nice postwork, great footwork. Like, his feel for the game is unteachable. You know what I mean?

Some guys just really have a knack or feel for the game that makes the game. and it comes easy to him. And I think he's one of these guys, bro. I think the game is in great hands with AJ. I think the Wizards, you know, took the right, took the right pick. Yeah. And I'm looking forward to seeing the Wizards play this year, bro, because you got to understand now, Tray just signed for $212 million.

You know what I mean? He didn't got his bag. Trey, congrats, bro. Trey didn't got his bag. So now he's going to be coming out trying to prove, you know, that he is who he say he is. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm trying to get another one.

Because, how, Trey, T, T, how, Trey, 27, 28. Hell, I get me another bag. I'll be 32 and get another bag. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, you always want to go for a little dessert now. You hear me?

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got to, hey. They still pay it. Yeah, you know, your rookie contract, that's your appetizer.

Then, you know, you get to get that bag. That's your full-course meal. Now, you go for a little dessert after that you want to. You know what I mean? Yeah. That rookie contract, Joe, I'm going to get everything that I really wanted. the nice sports car, the really expensive watch, get mom and dad a house, get me a crib.

Okay, that's that. Because once I start getting to that $2,000, that $200, that $300, I ain't touching that. Yeah. That money will never be spent. Yeah. I would have gotten every, can think about it, you're making $69 million.

Let's just say for the sake of argument, they're going to, I'm going to take, your age is going to get here 3% to 5%. Yeah. Uncle Sam's going to take 50% of that. So now you at $30,000. So basically you at $30 million. Let's just say for the sake of argument we're having the conversation here, 27 million. After Uncle Sam take his cut, your agent take his cut, you invest.

I got, I'm going to take, you know what, I'm going to take seven million. Now, maybe you got a shoe deal with the, I don't know who he signed with is Adidas, Puma, Skechers, and one Nike. I don't know. But that might be a situation. You know what? I ain't going to even touch my rookie money. Hello. I'm going to do this shoe contract money.

Hello. I'm going to do this card signing money. As I go. As a car deal, I might get mom and dad a car, but I'm going to get this car as I represent this dealership. I'm going to drive dad, Ocho and Joe. Yep. I don't need no car.

Yep. That's how I go. But I'm going to make sure mom and dad taking care of. Oh, yeah. I'm going to kick you a little something too. Hey, I think he got two sisters. What y'all want? Hey, don't do too flashy.

Can't do two flashy now? Not too flashy. Get y'all a nice, get y'all a nice, what? What's a nice, what's a nice woman car? Oh, Joe. Joe. Hey, hold on,

the new kids, the new kids and maybe a Mercedes C series. Yeah, the Mercedes is hard, bro. I ain't gonna lie to you. I like them, I like them Genesis.

Y'all see them Genesis, the new Genesis they got? Yeah, but that's for grown folk, though, especially, hey, the Genesis to Dan.

Okay, okay. You're right. Yeah, that's a grown folk. You know. Yeah, I like,

but, yeah, you know, hey, make sure they straight. Yeah. And then, hey,

shut that thing down. Yeah. And, and, and never and do not i mean do not lose sight of how you got here bro don't do not listen do not do not fall in love with the things that you know that it brings that it brings yes you got to stay in love with the grind bro because a lot of time it'll bring things you don't need hello i was going to do that that's what it's going to do that for sure yeah yeah it's it's going to test you it's

going to touch your discipline oh time you got to learn the hard way yeah give the devil a ride enough eventually he'll drive hello now Hello. Eventually he going to drive. I don't care. I don't care who you are. If you give the devil a ride enough, eventually he will drive. Now, where the hell is my pen and paper?

Yeah. So, AJ, congratulations, bro. Like I said, I saw your father, you and your father when you came into ESPN. Congratulations, an unbelievable story, an unbelievable journey. But the journey now starts. Oh, yeah. He thought the journey, he thought he was on the journey to get here. Now the journey starts.

You can't exhale. No. No, sir. No, sir. Now, how do I improve getting here? Now, how do I get better? Yeah. Getting here was the easy part.

It's staying here that was get hard. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Hey, hey, and what I love about it, man, I love how his dad is helping him navigate this whole entire situation. I've seen something to where, you know, they don't have an agent. You know what I mean? They kind of dealing with it. Oh, we already slide it in.

Oh, you get 10% more to, you get 10 to 12% more than what the class class got. Okay. Yeah. So I'm going to get you 4% to do that. Hello. That's what I, and that's exactly what he said. So he said he's here to help his son. And I think from a child standpoint, bro, that's what you want, man.

You want your father to be there to help you navigate through this new situation, this new era that you're entering. And I think it's, I enjoy seeing it. Maybe because when I was a kid, I wish I would have had something like, that, you feel me? Yes. You know, so, so I see how genuine it is. And man, he's like, he's in great hands. He just got to keep working, bro. You got to just drive and want to be the best and you can't exhale, although you made it. Like, Oxy, the hard part now starts because now to stick is, it's just as hard as making it. Yeah. You got that number one pick on your own. Target.

As you target, you know, you got to live up to that. You got to live up to that. You got to. You You got to and continue to get better year and year out. I'm excited to see him. I'm excited to see him. Getting married is easy. Staying married is the hard part. Hello. Hey, statistically, for some reason, the numbers keep going up.

Getting married and the number keep going up and getting the boys. Yeah. I don't understand. I don't care what the number say. I'm getting married. We all going to do that, don't you? Hey, I don't think the marriages might look a little different. Right.

Because, you know, because I'm a FaceTime. a guy. Yes, sir, yes, sir. Yeah. Take your time. Take your time. It might be a situation where you and I, we're in the same house, but we don't sleep in the same bed every night. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think, I don't think nothing wrong with that. Wait a minute, Joe. Wait a minute. Well, my grandfather and I ain't never see my grandfather and grandmother sleep in the same bed. That's back in the day, now. It's 20, 26. I'm not sure the women today and going to let

that fly now. Hold on. Who is that? Is that Shirley Ralph? Her and her husband just moved together. They lived in separate cities for 20 plus years. Well, you go, John. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, that work in your, that work in your household? Listen, listen, Ocho, abstinence makes the heart grow fonder, okay? Ooh, wait a minute, that ain't going to work, Joe. That is not going to work.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes, you hear what, you hear what I'm talking about sometimes, man, it's better for us to get away from each other a little bit. So when we do come back and we, you know, we're excited again. Yes, yes, all, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, you know what? See, here the problem is, it's because society is,

We sleep here. Hey, we do this and we do that. And everybody gets, you got to do what works best for you. Right, right, right. Hey, you know, that's for you in your situation. It might be best that you go get mad at the courthouse. Right. Everybody talking about this destination wedding.

Yeah. Everybody talking about X, Y, and Z. Man, I need to have, she need to have 10 bribes made. I need to have six groomsmen. Yeah. Nah, I need to have my brother, my mom, my sister, my kids, standing beside me. I need that she going to have her people standing up four or five people.

even stand about that's good. Yeah. Why don't have a whole bunch of people that, man, I don't know what they got mad for it. They ain't gonna last long, talking is at my place. Yeah. I don't spend 100,000. Fair.

The home boy had to wear it. Everybody got crock shoes made, custom tucks. Yeah. Man, lasted long as to skip in the military. Oh. You know, skipping, they go to the military. How long they were married, huh? Not long as a snowballing the microwave.

Hey, listen. I like that idea, you know, the whole having space, but you got to have a woman that really understand that because they'll take that the wrong way. They would, they, Joe. That's the whole point. Before we get back, we understand this, Ocho. Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, she might have her own, she might have her own place too. Right. Right. You know, you know, Ocho. You know, I put a little seed away. Ohcho, prolly one of them little clingy dudes. He liked to be laid out of them. He is all up of Cambodia.

California can't go nowhere. Oh, no, no, I, excuse me, Uncle Joe. I'm the complete opposite. I'm not really clinging, you know. I give you your freedom. I give you your space, you know, to let you do your thing. I'd like to think you'd be able to do, you know, the same for me. I'm outside of that.

I just don't think the, as far as going as if we're married and actually having our own spaces in general, I don't know if that will fly because most women today, they want everything that traditional, you know, everything that, that the format and the way they say it's supposed to be. Obviously, you're supposed to do what works for you and ain't too many too fond of that, man. Hey, hold on, what they say, conversation rules of nation. Hey, man, you got to break, you got to break it down for, Ocho. Okay, okay, let her let her know what it is, man. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

I'm gonna break it down, Joe. I'm gonna break it down, Joe. Yeah, let her know what's going on. Look, yeah. Hold on, Joe. Hold on, hold on, hey, hold on, now when you break it down, right, and say, listen, we can be together, but at times, how do I explain? You know what?

At times, you know what? I want my space. Yeah, yeah. That gets you cussed out. No. No, I believe this is what you and I going through, this is going to be a lifetime. Yes, sir. But there are going to be times that I'm going to need two or three days to myself.

Ooh. Nothing personal. What does that look like for you? Right. See, that's the problem. Everybody's been living a life for someone else. See, the thing is, is that people get into marriage

and judge their marriage by somebody else married. Hello. Remember, I've told you, be careful judging your success with someone else's ruler. Your marriage might not look like mine. Mine might not look like he is. His might not look like theirs.

That's why I'm saying, you know, I laugh and joke, we're like, ooh, ah, but somebody, look, people swing in there, and people like, hey, I want to see my husband have sex with somebody else. I want to see my wife. That works for them.

That ain't me. I don't know. How in the hell? Hey, he's just on. I'll be able to see, Harry the thing. You don't know that Joe got that hammer. He didn't go to the hammer out of.

You got, oh, what? I don't know. What have I done got myself in? No, sir. Yes, no. But see, if that works for you, and there are people that have situations like that, you know, you know what?

I'm going to put that in the book. I'm going to put that in my book. I got a book coming out, y'all. Uh-oh. I can tell some stories. Write the book? Yeah, I got a book coming out. I'm going to be in it.

Wait to the story that you all see come out in this book. Hey, okay, okay, okay. Put me in that thing, what? Hey, I imagine. I imagine. But I think that's the thing, is that a marriage is different for you. There are certain cultures that you do in marriage.

Okay, that's for that culture. Right. That works for them. I can't be looking at, man. Man, you know such and such. you know, high school coach, the rival school, he was telling him, his runners would tell him, he said, the guy, he said his coach,

let him drink a beer before he run. He said, but damn hell, son, you want me to buy you a beer? That worked for him. That ain't been to go over here. What works for your relationship? If going on vacate, if some, you know, hey, we need to go out once a week. Somebody going to be cool with going out once every other week.

Somebody going to be cold out going once a other week. Somebody going to be cold out going once a week. Come on. Somebody going to, hey, we can take a vacation once a year. Somebody's going to say, we need to take a vacation every, every quarter. Yeah. What, what, what can you guys agree on? And then make that work for y'all.

And don't worry about society. See, society got us all messed up to begin with. Yeah. That's the problem. Yeah, hey, trying to do everything about a book joke. I already know it. Step by step. Boy, shit, boring as hell.

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That was me. The day we found out that you and the whole crew was at Hit Factory, the mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyling, and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping and then suddenly I hear a voice, hey, open the gate, let him in. The gate slowly went, come, come, come, come, come. They all, they're watching this and they watch me walk into there. And that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life. Listen, and laugh but not least with MC Jen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Was asked before the draft about not being the first overall pick conversation.

For me, not being in that conversation, I don't really understand it. And I think many years down the line, people are going to look back and say, that I should have been. What do you think? I think this could potentially, we are always talking potential here. This could potentially be, you know, one of them drafts, fellas,

to where maybe you do get a few Hall of Famers out of here. But I think potentially, bro, this has a chance to be a great draft because I think me personally, although I think I thought AJ should have win one, probably outside of A-Cuff being one of my, I don't really like that A-Cuff went to Sacramento. I'm going to be honest with you and Ocho.

Well, you hadn't talked about that that you didn't want him to go to Sacramento. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's throwing for another day, though. You know, but Caleb, with his frame being able to play on the perimeter, a great defensive player, has a great feel for the game. And he keep receipts, bro. He keep receipts.

He stayed it throughout college. When he played against all these dudes, he beat them all. He beat, he beat, hell, I think, A.J. Darren Peterson and Cameron Boozer. Well, him and Cam was on the same AAU team, if I was reading correctly. I know, but Cam went to Duke and he went to North Carolina. So, you know, that little rival, I think when they played against each other, I think Caleb got the best of them.

But I just think potentially, bro, he won't. I think the first seven to eight picks didn't surprise me. I mean, I guess when you're a bad team or bad franchise, Uncle Ocho, hell, to get. get better. You got to start someday. Yeah, you got to. Yeah, I'm saying that with A-Cuff because the boy got so, so much potential, bro, and I just want to see him in a great, I just want to see him in a great position. Hopefully the Kings can do right. You know, they can make a change, but y'all know the West is the West, bro. Like, yeah, if you're a bottom, if you're a bottom

feeder in the West and you're playing San Antonio, OKC, hell, just pack your bag, man. And it's, you know what, and I hate this, it's easy to look. back and say what you should have done. Because everybody looked back at 96, what Kobe should have been the number of an overall pick. Well, you say that 20 years after the fact. But coming out of college, you watched AI in college. Yeah.

And you watch him work out. And you saw Kobe in high school. And you thought Kobe at that point in time was going to be a better ball player than AI. Y'all really, if somebody's going to really say that, come on now. It's easy to say that now. Yeah. It's easy to say that now. Yeah.

You know, you know what the end of result was going to be. Well, I, thank you. Yeah, and I think in that instance or in that sense, Uncle Ocho, Kobe had a lot that he had to play for because this was in Philly, a place where he grew up at, he played these guys in the finals. They booing him. Come on, man, can y'all imagine going home and they booing you, bro? You know what I mean?

They boot him in the All-Star game. Yeah, they booed him in the All-Star game. And I think that rival between him and AI, he really, really took that personal, bro. Yeah. Right. And so Kobe went to the right situation. He got a chance to develop. They just didn't feed him to the woods.

He had an opportunity to play alongside the most dominant guy in the game at that time. Maybe the most dominant guy ever. He played alongside that guy. And he got an opportunity to coach that put him in a system that was conducive to his skill set. Did he work? Absolutely. Did he get better and better and better because he wanted to prove people? He wanted to prove himself right more than he wanted to prove people wrong.

Right. And you look at it and what happened. But if he goes, does he work his hard? Because he's like, man, I should have been higher. I should have been back. I should have went over a raid. I should have went in front of him all around. I couldn't have went in front of this one. I should have went in front of that one.

Who knows? I mean, Tom Brady. Tom Brady was pissed because he's like, hold on. How many damn quarterbacks y'all going to take NFL? Right. So you mean to tell me I'm the 18th or the 20th best quarterback? Spurgeon, when go before me? All these guys, all these guys.

Y'all believe all these guys were better to me. I did play at Michigan. I did just beat Alabama. I think they beat them in the Orange Bowl. And sometimes that's what you need to light a fire up. Yeah. That's what you need. That's what I needed.

Bro, because first of all, Ocho, you know what we come from. Everybody, oh, yeah, I know Ocho, but everybody wasn't, man, Ochoo ain't on. Yeah, he was good at high school. Man, y'all think Ocho gonna be like that in college? Y'all think O'Chall going to turn up like that? Man, y'all think Joe. So y'all think Joe just going to go and do what he did in Arkansas,

what he did in the high school. Okay. And if he goes to the league, man, he ain't going to make no All-Star team. Man, man, man, man. Oh, he isn't going to be like that. Man. You, everybody, even though they grew up with you,

they watched you, everybody ain't happy for you. That's a bad, boy. Hey. Hey. Hey, I know, I know they want to have a bit. about me, John, Uncle, Joe, because I did mine, I did it loud. Yeah. Loud, Joe, a loud and flamboyant.

But they were right there, Joe, they saw you. It's not like all of a sudden, like, man, I don't know how he did. You saw. Yeah. You saw everything that I was doing. You saw what I was going through. You saw my situation. My situation wasn't much different than yours.

It could have been a little worse. It might have been a little better. But it wasn't vastly different than yours. I chose athletics to go to school, get my work. Ocho, you and I didn't get our work too much. Well, hell, me, that's why we worked. So me, you know Joe got our damn work at school. But I think that, but you chose to drink.

You chose to smoke weed. You chose to do all that other stuff that wasn't conducive for you being a great athlete or moving on. So you can't get mad at my situation. success because you didn't have it because see you mad about stuff about a reward you didn't get for the work you didn't put in hello that's a good hello why you're mad at me what man you go man you go home yeah man I'm finished man okay I didn't I didn't judge you when you want to go smoke weed when you want to go drink when you go to trace tail when you didn't

want to come to school I didn't judge you hey now all of a sudden I I want to go home and be my grandma. I don't want to go, I don't want to go hang with y'all tonight. Nah, now I'm bad. Yeah. Oh, now,

oh, you think you better than us home? No. Whoa, whoa, what did that come from? Who ever said, who ever said I thought I was better? Y'all, if y'all knew how I was living, y'all know I wouldn't think that I was better than no. Do I think I can do what I do better than what you can do?

Absolutely. Absolutely. I can't do a whole lot. But what I can do. do, I can do extremely well. Right. Barterport used to say, boy, you don't need to do a lot, but do what you do better than anybody else can do it.

If you do that, you'll have a job. But I never understood. People that don't really know you, I get it. It's easy for you to be envious or resentful because you didn't see what they went through to get to where they got there. But somebody that grew up around you, Joe, we grew up in the sandboxed together. Yeah.

We was jumping, coming out the back of the swing, we're on the playground, and we jumping out the back of the swing, we did that. We're on the seesaw. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We go and seesaw. And did I jump off real quick and you hit your ass on the bottom. We did that.

Yeah. Hey, hey, you see me kiss my first girlfriend, boy at the bullet club. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, see, we mad at you, Joe, because I was here girl, too. You kissed her. I know what I know what I'm mad about. You see what I said?

Oh, Joe's trying to speak. He's trying to sneak down with Ian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. But I think, look, Cameron Boozer probably had the greatest start. Why?

He had a dad that was an NBA player. Yeah. He got a front row seat to watch an NBA All-Star every single day. He could give him information that, look, not just as a father, but as an NBA player. Yeah. This is what it's like. This is the grind. This is what you need to get good at. This is what you need to work on.

This is how you can carry. This is how you present yourself. This is how you be a leader. Obviously, he has to put his own spin on it. But he had a head start. You know, sometimes people start on third base and thought they hit a hang on. Bro, you already on third stop. It can backfire too, though, Ocho. You know, to where they can have all this successful to them,

to where you go into countless NBA games night after night. And it becomes the norm for you, you know what I mean? And you don't understand the hard work that goes into this, bro. You know what I mean? It can happen like that, too. You know, so I commend these guys who are NBA guys and their sons make it. Because they love it. It is tough, bro.

It's a grind. It's a real, you really have to love it. He had, but think about it. His dad, he coming home, they got an eight-car garage. Yeah. Yeah. The cars mainly got passports. They're foreign.

They speak a language. They speak a language. Yeah. And for him to say, you know what, Dad, that's nice. And I appreciate the life that you afforded my and my brother. But I got to get this on my own.

I want this for me. Yeah. I want this for me. Yeah. Do you understand what it takes for your dad to be that and says, you know what? That's really nice.

and I appreciate what you've done for this family. But I want that for my family. Yeah. One day I want to have what you and mom got. I want to have a wife. I want to have kids. And I want my kids to look up to me like I look up to you. But I also want them to say, you know what?

My grandpa played in the league. My dad played in the league. Let me go see if I can get that. You got a dog in you, boy. Yep. You see a lot of this maybe in like football. You know, you have generations, the Matthews, or you hit this in baseball with the baseball.

the booms, the dad played and the sons played. I think the granddad might have played. Cal Ripkin, Jr. But it's special, man. It's special when you have that kind of lifestyle. And people say, well, it's easy. Yeah, it's easy to sit on your ass too. Yeah.

Because think about what you try to do. Yeah. When somebody got, you don't want to go out there and work. That man said, you know what? Let me get this on my own. I appreciate it. You're going to give me the opportunity. You're going to put me in a situation where you're going to get me a trainer.

You're going to get me a coach. And I ain't got to do nothing. But show up, Joe, and try to work hard and get better. That's all I got to do. Hello. I'm telling you. Hey, hey, you just got to, hey, as a rookie, bro, you want to come in. You want to be a sponge.

Soak up all the information you can suck up from these vets, meaning ask questions. You know what I mean? Yes. I'm talking about put the work in. bro, that's how you gain your respect. You know what I mean? And then once you take practices, you know, and then you can go out in the games and dominate.

I'm talking about you. That's how you gain respect, bro. You got to come in and put the work in. You know, you know what's funny, too, when we think about it. We talk about some of the early picks, Unk. You talk about some of those, Jolla, that have that factor that you can't coach. They just got it.

It's already in them. Especially you think about Boozer. Them boys want to be successful, though. You got to think about how, the type of work they had to put in to get the way they are now, to be picked as early as they've gotten picked. That's just half the story. The new journey starts now.

So I know they wouldn't fall by the wayside of being comfortable. Okay, now that I've made it, you know, I'm going to sit back and chill. No, I got to keep going. I got to keep pushing. Hey. Think about it. The NBA ain't got a 450 players, Ocho. Every year.

They bring 30 in. So what does that mean? If they only got 450, what does that mean if they bring 30 in? 30 got to do what? Go out. They got to go. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, look, look. Hey, look at this draft. Okay. Hey, even when you look at the draft, the first eight picks was all freshmen. Mm-hmm. They were all freshmen. You know what I mean?

Like this, hey, man, some talent in this draft, bro. I was thoroughly impressed. Joe, but you know, they look at it now, Joe. If you're not a freshman or a sophomore or a sophomore, you don't come out, they question, how good are you?

If you're that good, why are you still in college as a junior? Why are you still in, college as a senior. You ain't got no, if you what you, if you what you say you are, why you're still in college? Hey, yeah, y'all,

hey, look, look, look, we on this racetrack. College ain't nothing but the pit stop. I'm just for a short period of time. I'm out. Hey, I ain't gonna be here long. Hello. Hey, Uncle Joe, people be having a nerd ask boy, but what class you took in Oregon State?

Shit. How many classes you've been to you was at Oregon State? I went to my marketing class. All right. Hey, I went to my... What you mentioned? What you made you in?

Eligibility. Hey, Joe. That's the only way I can stick a rival for you. Joe, I got to make sure I'm eligible. Hey, hey. I tell you, y'all, I'm with you, boy. I tell you, man, they loaded me over like 24 hours. I said, man, I mean, y'all got me in class all damn day.

One once I found out I could drop them classes and I ain't need but 12, 12 hours to be eligible. Yeah. I took it down to 14. That way if I have a little sleep. you know, I still get by. Right. Joe, I went to one class, Joe. My finance class.

Boy, I ain't missed that. I ain't missed that for nothing. No, so. Hey, once I gave, how many math classes I need to take for this degree? Oh, you just need to take two. Okay.

What's the easiest two math classes I can take? That's all I got for you. Yeah. I'm not been to do no algebra. I'm not going to do no trigonometry. I'm not going to do no upper level, upper level mathematics. That's not what I'm going to do.

As a matter of fact, and speaking of this, I want you all to be honest with me real quick. Think about everything. Think about the curriculum and everything that we learn, whether it's high school, whether it's college. How much of this stuff we learn in school have y'all yet to use in today's life? I ain't going to lie, bro.

Everything you learned, what have we had to use in today's life? Well, the things I learned, Ocho, was on the court, you know, just, I'm just keeping it. You want me to keep it 100? I'm trying to keep it 100 with you. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Coach Nolan Richardson, he humbled me at an early age.

He taught me discipline. Yeah, he taught me how to compete. He taught me how to work hard. I ain't going to like T. That's what I learned. I learned. And I use it to the T. Yeah.

I use a lot of the stuff, Ocho, and the lessons. Yes. Being going to an HBCU, knowing the history of HBCUs. So when I talk about certain situations, I can follow back. Well, where did you learn that?

I went to an HBCU. Yes, so. About the military being segregated. Think about it. We fighting a war, Ocho. I'm fighting for this country. They fighting for this country. But we fight it segregated.

The blacks are fighting together. The whites are fighting together, but we fighting for the same country. The military then becomes integrated until 1948ed until 1948. Truman did that. proud of that no

y'all do realize that when they captured POWs prisoners of war they fed them before they fed the black soldiers let that I'm gonna say you again Ocho they fed the people that they were fighting

against before they fed the people they were fighting with that looked like you and I a lot of the time the lot of the entertainers, they still have entertainers that go around. A lot of the entertainers say, nah, we're not going unless y'all

let the black sit up. Black, they'd go to the back. Huh? So it was things like that when I was on undisputed that I could speak about that people like, how he knew that? Because they don't

teach you that at a PWI. They teach you his story H-I-S-T-O-R-Y not history H-I-S-T-O-R-Y similar

very very different that's what I learned I remember Haines Walton Norman Elmore say when Shannon when you leave here we want you to be the best representation the best representation

of SSU. I never missed Haynes Walton class. Brilliant. Brilliant. Come to class, all they have in his pocket

was a piece of chalk. Start right. He's writing on the board. I love this. He tells us the books and the bookstore that we got to buy that we need to read

because this is the curriculum he's going to be teaching from. He's just writing on the board. I was like, well, how do he know all of this? God damn. I know the man brilliant. He's a doctor.

after P.A.D. Book written by Haynes Wall. God, be it. Norman Elmore, you talk about man could write. A man could tell a story. Yes, sir. He told a story of McDougal. I don't know if y'all noticed. Oh, my goodness.

And the way he could, I never forget. One day it was cold. And, you know, back then Savannah State, it's obviously much better now. But we had them old, old, old heaters. And it was cold one day. And it was about four. And normally you give the professor,

you give anybody 10 minutes. They didn't show up in 10 minutes. Out of there. Yeah. So it was about nine and a half. Everybody looking at their watch. And as their tit struck 10, everybody getting up to leave.

He would always come in. Anybody who went to Savannah State, he probably got there. He probably started teaching, say, 80-ish, maybe a little earlier, he ended up passing. But he would always come. I'm talking about books. I'm talking about he carrying books like this here.

So we're going, so everybody walking up, I'm sitting down. I ain't got nothing else to do. I'm sitting down. Man, he'd come around that corner. He said, get back in the class. He came in, he put those books down on the table. He said, I can teach you more in 10 minutes that any professor can teach you in a day here

and sit down and get this lesson. Norman Elmore, Haynes Walton, but I had the thing that I tell people, and I talk to a lot of people that go to it that went to HBCUs and they felt that the instructor really cared about them. Haynes Walton, Gaynell Hewitt,

Joyce McLemore, Joanne Green, Norman Elmore, all the, Dr. Bain, all of those people. I sincerely, cared. Steve Smith, Simpson, I sincerely, genuinely felt they cared about me. Steve Smith, he was my, uh, uh, he was my history professor. And he's like, oh, Mr.

Sharp, I see you had a brilliant game. But do you know about the imperialism? Oh, brilliant times. Yeah, come on, cut your boys and flat. You just told me you heard I got you saw. I got you heard or you saw I got down, but they made sure I got my lesson. Yeah. Every Friday, joke, never fail. Had me a briefcase,

had me a collar shirt and slacks. What? Yeah. And so I'm going to be something. I know I'm going to be something. I know it. You was in that decked out, huh? Yes.

We have classes. We have a class. We had a class. They let them put on trials. Oh, boy, you, hey. I was Johnny, I ain't know who Johnny Crocker Roe. I was Johnny Cochran, Willie Gary, Jerry Spent. I was all with F. Lee Bailey.

I was, any famous law you could think of, Roy Black. I was there way back then. Oh, you were a criminal justice major. I was a criminal justice major. Hey, man, do you know that's what I majored in? Yeah. An IR Radio Experience, weekend gold tickets to Ilsoni. One, two, three.

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Talking about as a kid, do you remember that we met even way before that? Let me think. Did you walk up to the gate? That was me, Dee. That was me. The day we found out that you and the whole crew was at Hit Factory, the mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyling, and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping, and then suddenly I hear a voice, hey, open the gate, let him in. The gate slowly went, come, come, come, come.

They all, they're watching this, and they watch me walk into there, and that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life. Listen and laugh but not least with MC Jen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Yeah, see, I grew up watching Matlock. You know, I used to watch Matlock and, you know. Madlock, Ironside, yes.

All of them, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, come on. Hey, hey, I knew you was like, hey, look, I know it's cancer season too now for my cancers out there. You know, y'all spay on the chat with the council. Hey, baby. Hey, it's

council season. We had, we had completely different opposite. We were completely different sides of the spectrum. I majored in finance and my minor was goddamn, was theater and drama. Yeah. Yeah. Drama. That's what I hear. Hey, hey, Joe,

hey, Uncle Joe, now you know I'm good in front of that camera when I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm not. We got to let you live, though. See, we can't give you a script. We got to let you add live. I know. I'm good. I'm good with a script too, though. If you give me a script. We're going to give you an outline on how close we want you to stay to the script.

Right. We got to let you. We got to let you be you. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or it's going to come off as rehearsed and it's going to come off as it not being me. Yeah, I got to use my own word. Yeah, hey, hey, he that guy, he that guy, yeah, you put him in the game.

You just let him go. Yeah, just let him do a thing. Yeah. What you want me to do? Whatever, because just go get on. Just go get on me. Hey, man, what are all you running? Hey, don't worry about it.

Hey, just when you get open, throw it. Hey, he's going to be open. That's it. AJ DeBarns on how he thinks he and Trey Young can find a good balance together as ball-dominant players. I think we can definitely find the balance. I can play off the ball. Obviously, not a lot of people have seen that. But I played off the ball at Polyphic Prep with Tyron Stokes and those guys with Team USA.

I'm not the number one option. I have to pave my way. I'm walking in with some vets on the team. I have to earn my spot. love what you're saying. Yeah, I do too. I do too. But I think their games complement each other.

I think they can play great off one another. Both can create. Both can ISO. Both can create a shot not only for themselves but for guys around them. And with that being said, bro, when you got two playmakers, scores, guys who make guys around them better, I just think it's a perfect match. He can guard those guys that Trey may have trouble guarding. Yes.

You put AJ on them guys with that. length, you know, being able to move the way he moves, I just think it's a great compliment to one another. And if A.D. stays in Washington, and he comes in any kind of shape, Uncle Ocho, to where he want to say, I'm going to get back to that ADI used to be 25 and 12. Hey, man, I think AJ has came into a right situation where he can really learn from these two vets and still, you know,

be a rookie of the year. I really think that. The Clippers took Keaton Wigler, the Brooklyn Nets, took Michael Brown Jr. I guess it's Michael McHale. McHale Brown Jr. Darius A-Cuff with 7 to Sacramento, Kingston Fleming, went number eight to the Hawks. You like the Hawks pick? Out of Houston.

I don't know if you're an Ocho senior play, but he bought 6, 4, 6,65, got great length, great athlete, has a great mid-range game. He can score that ball. He lock up, play defense. If you go to Houston, bro, you got to have some dog in you. Those guys defend at a high level. They play both ends of the floor. Fleming's going to be great.

He's going to be a great piece to mix in with JJ and the guys here with the Hawks, man. I look forward to watching him play. And I think he's just going to be a great plug-in piece. He's going to be a great plug-in piece. A guy who they've been looking for who can score the rock, take some pressure out, JJ, CJ, and these guys. I think perfect match, bro, perfect match. Because you guys start three guards.

You guys start JJ. You guys start DJ. CJ and Alexander. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So those guys still going to start. But Flemmons, he'll definitely get his opportunities, bro. I ain't going to lie.

I thought they probably was going to go big, but they ended up getting the other big boy out of, and where he come from? The Edge of Ford guy. They took him 23. St. John's, big guy. He's about Pout Four. He got some dog in him.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he got some dog in him. He got some dog in him. So I think the Hawks got two great picks in that first round. That'll be able to plug and play right away. Okay, Ocho, yeah, yeah, Ocho. I know you're happy about your heat.

I know you happy about your heat, but y'all got some thing. Hey, Joe, let me tell you something about me, Joe. ain't no need for me to be happy, Joe. I don't know, listen, I don't know, you've been on here for a good little time now, right? Have you noticed any time I predict something, even though I do it in a playful manner and y'all don't believe me

because my story sounds exaggerated or sounds not believable? Do you understand? I've been right, I've been right, I've been right. But you've been lucky as hell too, boy. I'm talking about it. See, Joe, Joe, we can't continue to call everything luck, Joe. At what point are you going to say,

you know what, Ocho? You know what? I doubt is you, but boy, you know what? the hell you're talking about, Joe? When you're going to say that? Why I got to be luck, Joe? Yeah. You know black folk.

I don't let that's going to happen, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. Black folk, we don't get too. We don't get that much luck now, Joe. Come on now. Listen, listen, Ocho, I think, hey, look, I hate to see my young boy, Kellell where, you know, he's from the career. He's from Lerra.

Yeah. I hate to see him in their trade. But I love to see Bobby Porter's from the crib go over the South Beach, too. I know Bobby Lai. Hey, hey, Bobby, like, hey, y'all going to take Yon and damn it. Yanna, damn it, take me too, because I want to go to South Beach. Hold on. Joe, when we had Bobby on the show, what did I tell Bobby?

Who did I tell? I told Bobby, Bobby, guess who's coming to Miami? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bobby laughed at me. Yeah. He's like, nah, and I don't want to tell him right there, but shit, Bobby, you coming too. And I couldn't disclose that information. Then my sources wouldn't talk to me no more.

Yeah, okay. So, hey, it is, it is. I'm going to see, I don't know. Bobby might be here now. I'm going to take Bobby the Tussies tomorrow. All right. All right. The Golden State Warriors with the 11-11 pick

took Michigan forward. Yaxel Lindenberg. They won the National Championship. A war room camera for the Warriors called owner Joe Lakeham and Jim Mike Dunleavey appeared to disagree on what to do with the pick. Lindenberg on playing with Curry.

It's a full-circure moment for me. In 2016, I'm a big Kyrie guy, so I used to hate Steph Curry. Damn. Well, he said that in his sense. the interview? Yep. I think the thing, the biggest thing is like Lakeham and Dunleaving. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, look, we got Steph Curry. We only have Steph Curry for a finite period of time. Right. What are the best pieces that we can put around him? Because we don't

have anything to trade. Yeah. The problem is that you should be happy. Because guess what? You got Kevin Durant and you didn't have to trade pieces to get him, but also you lost him too. Yeah. And you think you couldn't get pieces for him. Yeah. You didn't. You didn't. You didn't. didn't give up pieces or you didn't get anything for him. So that's, hey, boom, boom. Now, as guys start to get older, what do you have to give up? What assets do you have to put around Steph as he starts to get old?

He's still a phenomenal player. Yes. Draymond, Jimmy Butler is coming back off an injury. What pieces can I put around them? Excuse me, Chad. To seriously, seriously, make us a contender. No. Today ain't close.

They're not beating San Antonio. They're not beating the Thunder. They're not going to beat the war. They're not going to be the Nuggets or Minnesota. No, no. So we're at best case, they got to be filled. Now, if Houston, we don't know what Houston's going to do. We don't know what the lake is going to do.

But if you notice, the last several years, they've been in the play in. And in the last seven years, they hadn't gotten out. A lot of those years, they hadn't gotten out. Yeah. They need too many pieces, Uncle Joe. Who are you talking about? Warrior. Golden State.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I think, I think, yeah. I think Lyndonberg is just, I think he'll be a plug and play guy right away, Ocho, because of which I got to understand now, you got Moses Moody who probably going to miss all of this year's coming up because of his Twentella. Yeah. We don't know what Jimmy Butler's situation going to look like, so he probably going to be out

at least the first six months, if not more. I'm saying the first of the year maybe all-star game Joe maybe maybe ACL I mean yeah depending on where they're in the stand as hell he may take the whole year you know what I mean so there will be opportunity for this young man to come right

right in and play he's been in college for quite some time he's been through the rigorous parts of it he's a more of a veteran guy in college you know what I mean and he's not a guy who's going to come in bro and be trying to do things outside of himself you know that's

what the warriors want. They want guys who can plug, who they can plug into their systems and who can play pretty much right away. Right. You know, and play great in their system. So I think that was probably the biggest griping grown they had with Caminga. Camingo, like, damn, man, I got a bag out here. Yeah, man, I ain't trying to play like y'all. Hey, Brad, look here. Hey, look here. I know y'all hired the cashier who a whole security guy, but I'm trying to be the CEO-O. I'm trying to be the bank manager. Right, right. Y'all hired me for the wrong job. And look, they got Pazimski, and I love Santos. The Santos kid can play.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You can play. Yeah. Yeah. But I just, even, even with that, I don't know if that's enough. Yeah, no. Not, not, not, not the way this roster is currently constructed.

And then you got to keep Steph healthy for at least 70 games for you to have a chance. It's just big. And right now, it's just hard. He runs so much. The pace is so fast. and little tickey-tack injuries just put him down for weeks, two weeks. He had a knee, he had a hamstring. He had something.

Ankle. Yeah. And not only that, hell, you playing in the Western Conference, man, the Western Conference, their first six, seven Cs, man, they're going to be locked up for quite some time. And I just don't see OKC breaking the top six, you know, like you say. You mean, yeah, the Warriors. I think they're going always be in the down at the bottom in the playing, man.

It's two challenging because you're going to have too many key guys missing this season and you're going to probably have to rely on more young guys. And, I mean, I don't see it, bro. The Thunder took a seven to three guy, Mara from the University of Michigan. What does that mean, Joe? Hey, you got the, hey. Are they going to have, hey, is that another guy that can bang? Is he for Wendy?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hey, we've seen what we was up against. Hey, so now, are we keeping three bigs? So that means we got Chet, we got Marr and we got Hartstein. Or is that a situation where we move on from Hartnstein? What's going on, Joe? I think that's what potentially may happen. I think you may end up, you know, moving on from Hardinstein

and this kid, Marr, who's 7-2-7-3, you know, who can move, he can pass, he can score the ball. Hey, hey, man, at this point, you already know, You got to have, when you play San Antonio, especially in that Western Conference. Yeah. And you know you may see them in the postseason. Damage, you better have your answer. You better have an answer.

You need at least two bigs. Hey, you remember when everybody had to try to deal with Shaq, they had at least three biggs. Yeah. You got 18 files for your big ass Shat. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, but do you want to let, he's going to file your number one saying.

He's going to file him out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you really want to let Hardinstein go? Do you really want to let your muscle go? Let you enforce go. Just because another play.

player seven two. Well, I think the thing is Ocho is that I think the club has an option. How much is that option? Yeah. Because they're trying to get out of that second apron. Now, by moving Wiggins, we went from 212 to 152. Right. I still would like to get even lower than that.

Yeah. Preferably, I like to get up under $100 million. Yeah. Think about it. Ocho, we lost in the Western Conference finals, and I got to pay $152 million, and I didn't get the title. Right. So all things being equal, I like to be up under 100 million.

Could I get that down to 80? Yeah, and had these rookie salaries mixed in, you know, to the point it don't hurt us as much. But yeah, I think Hartstein may be the next one. Because you got, you can, I mean, to carry all three of those guys, that's going to be, that's going to be hard to see, bro. That's asking them awful lot. You know.

Youcon center of Yukon forward he goes 29 Joshua Jefferson from Iowa State he goes 28 to Brooklyn Hey hey shout out to my guy 18 little Christian Anderson man Hey he went to Texas Tech He's from he from Atlanta he played over here with me in these lifetime leagues Since he was a little kid Look at him and his daddy

and man, just to see his growth and maturity as a player at Texas Tech, he was, I mean, hell, he did everything I thought it would. The boy just flat out, he can play, bro. He can play. He made it to the league. Man, congratulations, bro. Hey, look, let me tell y'all something. So the lifetime from my house, Uncle Ocho,

it's probably a broad low over two miles. I'm driving down. You go to the one at the Phillips. Sandy Springs. Oh, you're on Sandy Springs. Okay, you go right there inside the perimeter. That one in films. That's the club over there.

It's jump. Yeah. It's jump. Yeah. Yeah, they're building another. They build on another one. I think in perimeter. They build another one.

And they got an equinox coming, Joe. You know that? Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that. I know. It's getting real right here. We got to get some stock in one of these gym right here. Hey, look, check me out.

Check me out, though. I'm driving down Roswell one day. I see the little Christian Anderson. He has, he on Roswell Road. He's running. You know, getting a jogging. And it's him. Yeah.

His little brother just, I think he just signed with Georgia I seen his little brother just did something with Georgia Tech, but he can play. His sister run track. They run from the house all the way to the gym. That's like probably three miles for them. I stopped one. They're like, hey, man, what time? Man, our dad make our dad make us run to the gym and run home.

Like, when I see stuff like that, bro, like, I just shake my head because you know greatness upon him. You know what I mean? Like, this man work hard, bro. This man ain't work hard, man. He can hoop. He can hoop. That's awesome.

Uh, anybody, uh, the, uh, the Lakers selected, uh, Sergio D. La Rea. Who there is? Valencia. That must be, uh, six foot six guard, uh, out of Valencia, uh, for Spain. He's from Spain. Lencia. And there must be Luca home boy, son. You know, they, hey, they're trying to take the Lakers into a foreign team. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I, well, I think that, look, we're going to see Joe, uh, in July,

for agency start, we'll see, trade that pick, move, what can we get? I think that's the fun time. Trades happen, because the trades happen more so in basketball than they do football. I mean, obviously, we've had some big moves this offseason with Miles Garrett, and we saw the bombshell that happened right before the season with Michael Parsons last year. But normally we don't get a whole lot of stuff like this happening in the NFL. It mainly happens in basketball. all. But I think the NBA season is going to be free agency. We don't see some

wheeling and dealing. Look, look, obviously the Janus, that thing sits shockwaves. Man, but I don't think the NBA is done. I mean, it shouldn't have, I'm going to have. Oh, man, here we go. You guys months, months ahead of time. But it's still, he got traded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even, I mean, look, we were talking, we talked about it about with Miles Garrett when they did an show, they're doing that for, they're like, no, somebody else going to pay that money. Right. We're trying to get our best, we're trying to get

our little 29 million right now. We give you 29 million and we trade you. No, no, no, no. Hey, let's push this thing back to 15 days into the season. Let somebody else take care of it. Yeah. Boom, gone. It still shocked us because that's by I was Garrett. Yeah. I got it. The defensive player

of the year, the reigning defensive player of the year. Now you let him link up with the reigning MVP. And the guy that led the league in receiving. And the guy that led the league in touchdown. I'm catching. And a guy that was a top 10 running back and Kyle Ruees.

Dang. Hey. Yeah, yeah, we're surprised by that. Hey, listen, the question is, Ocho, is Yon is going to take somewhat of a haircut to be able to keep what's his name who were free? Norman Powell.

Yeah, yeah. Is he going to do that or he's going to take the whole shabang? He's going to take the whole shabang. What? He ain't, oh, no. He ain't going to do the Brunson deal. Like, so you can see how. No, hell now.

Joe, 113? No state tax over here. No state tax. That's what I'm saying. Hey. State tax. So a no state tax on 113, Joe. Hey, what's up?

Hey, I ain't, I'm going to say it. I told you first. Now, here we go again. Oh, shit. Now, Pat Riley, Mickey Erison. Now, they got something else. They got something else up their sleeve, now. Something else like what?

Somebody else coming in They got something else up their sleeve now Because I can tell you Hey, I don't know if he's gonna fit If it's who I think you're talking about Nah, it's probably not who you think But I'm just saying he got something up his sleeve So, okay, we got yonness

But we still got to be able to compete in the east Huh? We don't want to just make the plan We want to be seated I told him that yesterday I told him that last night Yeah Y'all gonna be seated

than the playing. Nah, we ain't doing, we ain't doing no playing this year. You say, hey, hey, you're saying the heat should be a top four team in the Eastern conference. At least top five, top five. I mean, when we talk about some of the team coming out of the East, it needs to be the Celtics, the Knicks, the Heat, in that order. In that order until they pool.

What are you going to do with the Pistons? The who? The who. Say it again? Oh, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what you, hey, what you're going to do about the Hawks? The only team that beat the champs twice, who was up on the M in the series. What's you going to do by my hawks? Hey, can't do, did you just hit the order I just said?

You ain't say, what I'm saying, you probably forgot about the hawks. I'm trying to. Oh, no, I didn't forget about the hawks. The hawks probably fifth or six and, you know, fifth or six. They down there, they're down at the bottom. Got a little bit, part of this. Hey, let Pat Riley pull this one more, this one more trick out of his hat. He got one more?

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