Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: 464-pound NFL prospect Desmond Watson joins; TJ Houshmandzadeh joins; NFL fining for Nose gesture

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap NFL stories of the week. Including Desmond Watson weighing 464 pounds at NFL combine, TJ Houshmandzadeh makes HOF case for Ocho & much more!04:20 - Desmond Watson comes in at 464 pounds08:10 - TJ Houshmandzadeh joins the show44:00 - Nose gesture now finable in NFL(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Watson had his pro day workout. He benched 225 36 times. That's more than any player mustered at this year's combine. And he ran the 40 in under 6 seconds, a five nine three and he had a 25 inch vertical Aaron Gibson No, Aaron Gibson only weighed 405 From Wisconsin. Oh, no, no, I'm Troy Hey kid, can you do me a favor real quick on yes for me because I can't see I can't visually see him

So I'm listening to the numbers you're giving me. Is he bigger than Sam Adams? Is he bigger than what Sam Adams was or bigger than Gilbert Brown? Yeah, hell yeah. He outweighed him down to about a hundred. What? He's 464, Ocho. But what you think Gilbert Brown was?

Like 365, 370 to the top What can't can he can he move he ran five nine three? I? Mean move in the position that he actually plays hey, hey, think about it. He'll D tackle He ain't going for a gap to be gap. Oh, he clawed he clawing up space. Okay. Okay. Hey Hey, somebody in the AFC East me drives mean NFC East stopped the uh, the push push. Yeah. Over the center. Yeah. Look here, you got the guard, you got the guard in the center. Well listen. Listen Cincinnati, Cincinnati we need help on defense and obviously we could start at the defense, we could start right there on that defensive line. Bring him on down there, clog that,

clog that thing up. If I'm not mistaken, I think at one point in time he was almost 500 pounds. What did he lose? Did he lose like 40, 50 pounds? That Desmond Watson. I think I think I heard him talking about that. He was like almost 500, like really close to 500 at one point in time. Oh, they go, Hey, listen, depending on where you go, they

gonna get that weight up off of them. They gonna get some of it up off of them. Hey, at some point, hey, Ocho, I mean, you might get him down. You ain't getting him under 400. Yeah. I mean, listen, get him a little lower. Yeah. Get him a little. You Get him a little more. Yeah, get him a little.

You put him on that Zypick. That's the only way you're going to get him. Hey, Zypick, semaglutide, tri-zephytide. That's our age. That age. And the 464 age. Now I see the age. And at 464, he can't play in the league if he tried this diet. I've seen somebody over 400 pounds and they got tried this diet and they was under 200.

Crap. And the hall boy, he's about 4'10". That pipe had him drawn up, he was under 200, by 175. Hey man, you shut up, man. Hey, man. I'll be honest with you, Ocho. Oh, Zemp. But I hope my boy get an opportunity to play.

I think somebody gonna give him an opportunity. Yeah. Yeah, listen, I'll be turning to him. Hey man, we don't... We cut the name on everything. Hey, man, he on that zip it. Hey, I just... Listen, I love the numbers. I hear the numbers.

It sounds, you know, staggering. It sounds intimidating. But I need to see what you look like when you turn the film on. Are you... Are you disruptive? Yeah. You know? TJ ain't no better than I am than working at technology.

Hell. Steve. Hey. What'd you say? Can you hear us? Yeah, I can hear y'all. You can hear us. Now don't pretend like you can hear us all alone.

Hell. No, I couldn't. I ain't no what the hell, man. He was so quiet. What's that? Hey, look. Hey, T, look, I'm swoleole. Hey I see you got your low ass back in that weight room. You need to get on that shark plan boys. What's been up?

You gotta get on that Shannon shark plan. Shit we little motherfucking trinkets. I'm on the Shannon shark plan. Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, TJ, let me ask you this. When you first met Hooch, I mean, when you first met Ocho, what was your impression of this dude? Man, so we met in college. Chad was just, he was just real chill, real, real chill.

Chad don't really talk no shit till it's like the competition start. Other than that, Chad chilling. And then when the competition start that's when all the shit. So, you know, I thought Chad was hella quiet. And then we went to practice. I said, oh shit. It was just a different fool. Man, straight up who is this fool exactly? Oh, them some good days, man. Them some good days. Ah, them some good days. T.J.

Man, I've been knowing Chad since we was teenagers, basically. Yeah. That's crazy. How many years has it been? Listen, my man, I'm not advanced, man. You're 46. If you were a teenager, that'd be 28. Damn.

Chad, that's damn near 30 years, bro. Golly, boy. Hey, you know what near 30 years, bro. God, leave, boy. Hey, you know what's crazy though, Chad? I was just telling somebody this. No, we still look the same, boy. God don't bless us with that. Hey, hey, you know what they say? The black of the juice is sweeter than the berry.

Hey, I'm glad. I'm glad. Or God said, that's my son. He hit us with that. Yeah, he did. He did. T.J., well, he blessed you to's my son. He asked what they did He's a when he blessed you to keep your hair. He didn't bless. Oh Joe with that. Oh wait, hey TG Can you tell I can go a fool said in here now? Chad he always had a bald head. He ain't never had no he'll grow some hair here and there Radic is preradiate. I know I don't matter fact TG hold your hair. It's kind of like my sex life sporadic

No, don't don't do that, you know that I got no spark Oh, I'll cut me out of my deal. I Can't I can't get no spark. Oh, he already told Hey, I got a I got by three boxes full Lodge a boy you you always in LA you come LA you hey matter of fact I'm gonna be in LA on the 30th We've got understand these are prescribed for me based on the questions I had to ask before I ordered them so they're prescribed to you now I'm not sure if you would be able to use mine, because mine is like putting 93 in your car. You hear me?

Yeah, he got the hot gas gas. Oh, uh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen. Hey. Huh? I know Chad. I know Chad.

I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, come on, ladies. He didn't know I had that. Y'all got my head hurting already. Hey. Hey, you think the Bengals re-signed, they re-signed T. hurting already. You think the Bengals re-signed, they re-signed T.

We knew they were going to re-sign Chase. That was a no brainer. You're talking about one of the top, the top three receivers in the league. And I'm not sure he's two or three. You make the case, it's easy to say he or Jetta based on the last three years, they're one, one, eight, one, whatever the case you want to go. Are you surprised that the Bengals were able to get a deal done with what up with T? No, not at all. Who else earned it them two dudes earned it when you go outside of trade Hendrickson Nobody else on the team has earned that money. We knew they was gonna pay Jamar. They always gonna pay their best receiver in the quarterback.

They always gonna do that. What shocked me, T, when he fired David Mulligeta, he basically told the Bengals, I wanna stay in Cincinnati. I fired my agent because I wanna stay here. Y'all gonna make that happen. He took a pay cut to stand. He really did. And so, no, it didn't surprise me, but shit, who else earned it?

Nobody else on that team earned it outside of Trey Hendricks. And so you got to pay somebody. The Eagles paying everybody. The big ones. This is what you got to think about when you think about the Eagles and with Lurie and young Bullers over there doing. Yeah. Yeah.

But the Roseman, they paying everybody a little bit early. They catching them early, but they not paying top dollar, AXI, for the players at their Pacific position. But the Bengals, we waiting on the back end. We waiting on the back end and forcing the players to bet on themselves. So they could have had Jamar at what, 35, 36? Yeah, they could have had two years ago, two years ago.

And they know this is the truth because I told them. They could have had T. Higgins five years, a hundred million. They said that was too much. And I know this because I told them this. But the Eagles, they pay an agent, AJ Brown got paid at the top. Devontae Nittany get paid at the top. Jalen AJ Brown got paid at the top. Devontae, they didn't get paid at the top. Jalen Hurst got paid at the top. What organization you know?

Sign a dude to a deal. He ball out and they say, you know what, man, you outplayed your deal. We're going to give you another deal after one year. The way they just did Saquon Barkley. Game 20 mil. Look, I'm praying if I'm a rookie coming out that I get drafted. Absolutely. Right, right, right, right.

Right, right. Ben, but then also you got to understand how special Saquon Barkley is. This is just not your average running back or athlete. He was special in New York and they wasn't paying. Yeah. Chad, you know being special, when you under that contract, then you know the money. I mean, but also, you got to understand the importance and value that he brought to that team in general Some of the pressures that he took off jalen hurst throughout that season what he was able to do for them offensively actually getting him over the hump

And getting to that super bowl run. So I understand it's especially Everything he's been through the storyline in general. That's one of the greatest stories right now Giants we're gonna tag you because we don't really, we don't really value the position anymore. Going- Answer dumb. They should have got a Super Bowl, the Giants should have got a Super Bowl ring

for how dumb they are, letting St. Juan go to kill him. They should have been given a Super Bowl ring, they dumb. Hey, so listen, knowing the Bengals and understanding what we need, the way we looked last year, how we finish, understanding what we need to do offensively, obviously we need to start fast. But on the defensive side of the ball, what do you think we need to do come draft? What do we need most? We got to be able to stop the run.

I believe Jenkins is to be a second year. If anything like his daddy, he going to be better. So your pops was a hell of a defensive tackle. He's going to be better. Just, just as bloodlines and a year of experience. We just gonna have to draft well on defense. Yeah. We gotta be able to draft. Well, like we drive miles Murphy out of Clemson in the first round. He got to start playing like that. Now, if this going into his third year, he ain't playing like a first round draft. He got to play like that.

We need Cam Taylor Britt to play how he played in 2023. Jay Turner was playing well, then he got hurt. And so they can do it. It's just they cannot miss. We can't miss with draft picks on the defensive side of the ball. When you're going to play the offense, you got to draft and develop on the defensive side of the ball. When you're gonna pay the offense, you got a draft and develop on the defensive side of the ball. That's gonna be the key. We got to make sure we get three starters out of this draft on defense. Wait, wait, wait. Three starters that can come in and start right now?

Right now. Right. Your first round pick, your second round pick, and somebody else that just surprised the gym. What do you see from the Eagles? What do they get? Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter, Brother Mikel, Dejaun. You see what they did? Blanket shit. Yeah. You see? All on. Nicole B. Deen, Nolan Smith, Juul. All on this thing. All on this. Because we're paying all the money fifty five fifty plus million for herds We got thirty three thirty four me thirty three million tied up in AJ. We got 28 million tied up in and and and Devante and we paid our entire office of mine Lane Johnson Dickerson my lot So we got to get that the car for the side of the show because we can't pay top dollar. That's why they let those guys leave.

Think about the guys that left, went to New England. One guy went to Arizona because we can't pay him. Now Jaylon Carter, whoo! Oh yeah, he gonna even hit it. He about to get 41, 42 million. Yeah. Go ahead and give it to him now before you have to pay it 50 million. Yeah.

Hey T, think about how bad our defense was, right? And obviously they paid T, they paid Burl, we paid Chase. What do you think about Trey Henderson? Do we pay Trey Henderson market value? Or is he gonna give him a home team discount? Nope, he not. We pay him market value, Chad, but what was market value? What's what's market value?

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founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. This is what I'll say. I'm a pain, but I'm not making him one of the highest paid defensive players. I'm not doing it. How you not going to do that? Number one, number one, this is where you we call this hustling backwards. I know now I'm trying to get money I'm not gonna hold out and lose money you do that. We just like was now He not gonna hold out So I'm doing my solid. I'm getting he's supposed to make 17 million dollars. I believe this year

If the Bengals would be fair, they bump him up to 28 the third doing with solid I'm giving he's supposed to make $17 million I believe this year. If the Bengals would be fair, they bump him up to 28 to 30. The 30 would be the max that I would give him. If it was the Bengals, we got to understand he a hell of a player. He had five sacks against the Raiders, five sacks against the Raiders. And so he showed up big time the last game against that race with him being 31 you can't give this man a four-year extension at 35 plus a year I'd give him 28 to 30 million. I believe the Bengals about how much are you gonna give him guaranteed?

How much are you gonna give him fully guaranteed? Because that's what I'm looking at. I'm damn them big-ass numbers if they just paper See now Shannon you talk now now nothing that it's talking like that age you're right you're like looking at damn them big ass numbers if they just paper. So you're not Shannon, you talk now. Now you're talking like that age, right? Like, hey, I say I say about a I'm going to give me 45 guaranteed. Who? Forty five. I don't know if you're going to take that.

They take on that. No, no, no. This is the thing though. Because if you look at T Higgins contract, if I'm guaranteed 30 in the first year, just say 35 in the first year, 35 in the first year if you trade Hendrickson. And then I give you a $10 million roster bonus in the off season. I'm not releasing you. Your base salary for that second season is pretty much guaranteed. It's just not part of the fully guaranteed part of the contract.

So now your base salary is somewhere along 15 million. That's $60 million in two years you go make. And it ain't fully guaranteed, but 15 of it is as long as you got that $10 million roster bonus, they not going to give you 10 million in off season. And really, they say, yeah, did y'all see what they did to Aaron Rodgers? Did y'all see what they did to Russell Wilson? They will release you. Even if you got 30 plus, Russell had 36 million guaranteed.

They said, nah, we good. You think what Russell Wilson did to himself when he was playing? I think TJ, for me, I think he might be content if you fully guarantee the first two years at about $60 million because you said that $30 million level, you're not trying to put him at, you're not trying to put him at 34 million. You're not trying to put him at Miles Garrett,

which is 40 million. So I think two years at 60 million, the last three years are gonna be vulnerable But he's gonna probably he's gonna want something a big number to make a big splash, right? You're gonna probably have to give him a 60 million fully guaranteed Hey, this is the year man. We got to do something We we got to do something. We got a plan of preseason because the last few years we Start off low every regular season that they can't kill this bruh

The first game of the season last year was is chase gonna play is he go? Oh shit? He gonna play he acted and it moves to the Patriots and that now is a game that would have got y'all in the playoffs Yeah, but you know what we're talking about Trey Hendrickson, but we saw Pratt your outstanding linebacker that let him in tackles Now you lost Hubbard who retired. Uh, uh, uh, Hendrickson is upset because his contract, Pratt said, y'all ain't got no money for me because y'all just played Burl, y'all played T, y'all played, uh, uh, uh, uh, Chase. Y'all ain't got no money for me and y'all need to pay Hendrickson.

Y'all need to let me go. You can't keep losing any good defensive player of TJ and expect you to think you gonna win. You can't, Shannen, but I hate hate doing this man. I hate doing this. What? What? No we was players man. We was players. But if you played on that defense and you not Trey Hendrickson what you want? What you want? What did you do during the season that says you deserve more money? I want more than seven million.

Then you should have played like I want more than seven million. Then you should have played like you want. Damn, damn. Hey, but see you talking about me, Mojo. Look at TJ. TJ cutting them up. I'm saying outside of Trey Hendrickson, who on that defense could literally say, I deserve a pen raise. Trey Hendrickson was the only one that showed up each and every game when he was needed.

Now, Jermaine Pratt has some games, but he even has some plays where, ah, we needed that play. Ah, we needed that play. I mean, if you start a line, if you start in any position in the league, we all know this and you get enough opportunity, you're going to make enough plays. But what about the plays you don't make? When I look, go ahead, go ahead. I would get ready to say, obviously,

you and I have been playing together since college, and obviously, I've viewed, and I've always said it before, I think Chase is probably, to me, the greatest banger receiver, so we have a darned no strife. Probably, you think? I know. Chance, stop, stop, bro. Wait, let me finish, let me finish. No you know, so we have a dog. No, probably you think Chance wait, let me finish. No, no, no, no, no, that's not true. That's the courtesy of downtown Freddie Brown

No, then that man right there with them. Lokes on is huh? Like I've never I've never won a triple crown. Oh Listen listen Because you had me. Listen, though. And Chad know this, Shannon. He know what I'm about to say. Man, Chad's supposed to be in the Hall of Fame, man. They fucking this boy over.

Oh, I put on my own jacket, though. No, no, no, no, no, no. Chad, Chad, you joking. You know I'm serious about this because I tell you this all the time. Chad is the greatest receiver in Bingo's history. Now, Jamar Chase is on his way to trying to equal or pass Chad. But where we sit right now, man, Chad is here. It's Chad.

It's Chad. It's AJ Green. It's Isaac Curtis. That's what it is to me. Now, Jamar Chase is on his way to getting near. But come on, Chad, you can't do it to you. You know, I tell you this all the time. Shani, you want a Hall of Fame. Let me give you my Hall of Fame criteria because for some odd reason, I think my criteria is the best and nobody listens to it. For a period of five years, were you a top five player

at your position? If you got to think about it, you're not a Hall of five years, were you a top five player at your position? If you got to think about it, you're not a Hall of Fame. I agree. So now you go to 2002, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. That's seven years. Seven of those years, Chad was top three in the league for five of them. He led the AFC five years in a row. How this man can't even be a finalist?

Like that makes no sense. He was leading the AFC in a year, he didn't lead it. I did. I did? So you tell me how he ain't in the, how he not even a finalist, but you got dudes that weren't even top five at their position, they get me. I was a villain. The villain, they never letting the villain in.

No. They never, they listen. I understood that. Why do you think I donned the jacket in the first place? Because I understood the politics that came behind it. I don't like the business side of football. Remember we talked about that the other day? When I talked about contracts, the reason why I played the game like a little kid having fun and entertaining. Now the flip side of things, okay, I know how y'all gonna play me. I choose, I chose not to conform. I'm playing the game the way I felt it should be played. So regardless of what my numbers would be, T, I understand what you're saying.

And I told you this before. You earned it. You earned it. You earned it. But you got to play by their rules rules if you don't play by their rules They're not letting you in there. You know how I feel about it. You know, I can give to you know What they play by that rules now all the stuff that you was doing thank you You can do now you only get fine for it. They owe you back. Yeah

Here's the thing though, Joe You had no off-field issues. Now what happened was the thing that's going against you, and you still don't have this, is that they wanted to keep T.O. out so bad. They changed it. They said anything that you did on the sidelines or in the locker room could be used against you. Where before they said even off-field activities couldn't be held against the player. That's how bad they wanted to keep T.Oio from being the first ballon on the table. Yeah. That was criminal that Tio.

And then they had the nerve not to let him in the first year. The second year? No. The first year, and I think even though, and y'all know how I feel about.O. I said he's the second greatest receiver to me. Some people push back and say it's Randy, but we know, I think you and I, I think T.J. and I are more aligned. I think Jerry's the greatest receiver and it ain't close. That's my impression. Now T.J., you might say Randy, you might say T.O. But for me, I think those three are the top three receivers

as we sit here and discuss it today. Now, Chase and Jettle and somebody down the line might have something to say about, but I sure hope I'm alive when I can see the receiver that say, hey, he right there with Jerry. I want to be allowed to see that receiver. That ain't gonna never happen. Yeah.

Then Jerry Rice was getting a thousand yards in year 20, bro. 40 years old got 1200 yards. Yeah, that's that's that's never gonna happen. We will never see somebody do what Jerry Rice has done, but Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, they on their way, but they got to make sure that they don't hit any bumps in the road because Odell Beko was on his way as well. And he hit those bumps in the road. He could Beckel was on his way as well and he hit those bumps in the road he could never recover from that and I just feel like Chad is the best bingo receiver in the history of the team. He knows that, I know that. Now Chase is on his way. I just I tell Chad this all the time because he never gonna say nothing about it,

man. It's just a crime that he can't be a hall of fame finalist when his game on the field, he heard that shit bro. And that's one thing about Chad. Like when you talk about work hard, what did you do? This dude is going to run himself to the death. Like we, Shannon, we was in year nine and we was taking all the scout team reps like we were still every time, every practice, Thursday, Friday, we did all the offensive reps, all the scout team reps. I left the Bengals and went to other teams.

Those dudes is like, bro, I'm a have it. I just always have done it. And so people don't realize like, Chad, where I come from, we similar paths. We both went Juco. We both had like, ain't no way they making it to the league. Oh shit, they made it. And to be successful. I mean, that right there within itself, pat yourself on the back. But yeah, Chad should be in the Hall of Fame man Any chance I get I'm gonna say that because I know I know who the best receivers were and

I'm not gonna put nobody down but some of these dudes they not better to him and them dudes even know they not better than You know, I have seen you step up to help our rookie Jermaine Burton We saw the struggles a lot of it played out publicly. Oh Ocho say he's gonna he's gonna try to intervene this year. We got two great bingo receivers that's trying to help the younger generation like bro, there's a lot there's a professional aspect of it, which is what you do. You're an NFL that means you're professional. And then there's a pro PRO, which is the way you go about handling your business. We need to get you to become a role You know with Jermaine

Like I was talking to him a lot during the prior to the season starting because you know He was having problems prior to the season And we ingles knew that I was close with him So they were they was reaching out to me before anything ever became public Certain games he wasn't even gonna be active then they was reaching out to me before anything ever became public. Certain games, he wasn't even going to be active then. They were, they were letting me know the night before. And so I'm giving Maine a call like, bro. What's going on?

What are you doing? I'm going to just see if he don't tell me what's going on before I got to ask him what's going on in. He had all the talent in the world, but at some point, I can't want you to be what you don't want to be. Okay. What I tell my kids, I can't want it more than you want it for yourself. He gonna have to figure that out. And I just, I just talked to him today.

I just talked to him today. I just talked to him today. I just talked to him today. And to me, it ain't about anything physical on the field. He gotta make sure mentally and off the field, he ready to go. Because the league gonna move on. He got one more strike. They gonna move on without him.

It don't matter who you are, man. It's NFL that's staying, gonna keep rolling. Which you are without you. You gonna hop on the train and roll with us? or you gonna get your ass rolled over and get left behind It's cool. I hope he figured out man cuz he's so talented he comes from a background where he can really change his family's fortune and I'm gonna do all I can Chad know me I'm gonna talk

So I'm gonna help I'm gonna help him as much as I can but ultimately I can't want it more than you want it. Yeah man listen I don't know brother Burton like that. Obviously when I go to the stadium, when I do have my times and chances where I'm at the field, you know I don't want to do that, be that father figure, I don't want to be that guy because when I was playing and people come in I wasn't trying to hear that stuff from them. So I just talk strictly football. That's no good. Yeah, I just talk strictly. But when you out here, when you out here, you're going to pull up to the training.

That's that's what you're going to do. You're going to pull up. I'm a bring my police to. Yeah, I don't know if you. I can't tell the teacher to let it go, TJ. Hey, what? Hey, hey, man, it's just different, Chad. Hey, hey, right man, this is different, Chad. Hey, hey, right now, like, I'm lightweight hurt myself thinking I could. Hey man, hey, your mind say I got this.

As soon as you get on that field, boy, your body be like, boy, you better sit your ass right on there. I mean, I mean, I mean. Hey, there's a reason why we hung the cleats up on TJ. Hey, we, we can, we looked apart, but I don't know if we are the part. It's that it's that lateral. And I keep trying to tell Ocho. Yes, Ocho.

Could you run straight ahead? Yes. But that that that that that that that that that See, Chad might be the only I'll get you now. Chad lateral movement was That was out of this world. That's one thing Chad was so quick. Even if he lose quickness, he bought what everybody else is now see I told you Even though he might be what because his quickness is because he's so light see you, you and I like to play through contact. Light, 205.

We wanted somebody to kill me on the road. That is light. TJ, so we can snatch a pool or rip through the ass. Him at 185, hit lateral quickness right there. Bet they gonna shove his ass up under the bitch. Hold on, hold on. Hey, Shani, you're probably giving Chad about five pounds. Chad probably about 180.

I know, I'm 205. Chad, you are damn loud. What the hell is this? Hey Chad, you got a big bicep, you got a big chest, you got big calves. He got a leg, for all your weight is it? The weight is from waist down. That's what a weight is, old chump. You know what promise they? Promise they.

The horses ain't got no big legs either. Exactly. Yeah, fairbred. Fairbred. Look at how skinny their ankles are. Now, Clivesdale got the big ass legs that ain't moving nothing. They pulling stuff. Plow horse and a race horse.

But look at that. Hey, T.J., who you got? Because we know we got this fight coming up this year. Ocho versus James Harrison. Yeah. Listen man, Chad my dog bro. Hey T, hey T, don't say nothing wrong. Don't say nothing wrong. Hey, what kind of fight is this?

MMA. MMA, is it just MMA? Nah, Chad don't do the MMA bro. I love you guys. You got it on my me your mate. Is it just by your mate? Nah. Chad, don't do the MMA, bro. I love you. Chad, you on my side? Chad, listen to what I'm saying. Are you on my side or not? I need to see your eyes, bro. Take the looks off. Chad, boxing, I got you. MMA, man, that love, James Harrison gonna grab you and me at the same time. Boy, you know how strong James Harrison is? I don't see another boss strength, boy. You know how strong?

Yeah. Hold on. Hey, if he can wrestle you, dude. If he can grab you, dude. He's not gonna be able to grab me, T. He's not gonna be able to grab me, T. I'm from the play with him, T. Listen to me. I'm from the toy with him. I'm finna play with him T, listen to me. I'm finna toy with him. I'm finna toy with him in the octagon.

Listen, I'ma hit him at will when I want to T. I'm finna be jammin' him in jail. I'm finna get jammed. Hey I'm finna bounce around, I'ma move around T. Hey watch out young man. Watch out. Hey listen, I'ma tell you, let me listen to me. I got a cheese.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Heart Women Sports. Hey man, this is the old pride fight, no weight class. Yeah. Back in the day, back in the 60s. Now the boxing thing, because he got all that muscle, he gonna be tired. What you think he gonna be an octagon T? Cause he gonna shoot and take you down. He can't shoot. You can't shoot.

I'm finna keep my distance. I gotta get closer than I can throw a pass. How you get that point Jojo? Easy. What you mean? I'm a gazelle punching. Hey, hey man, I just hope James Harrison, man. James, if you watching, have mercy on my boy.

Hey James, if you watching, you got a punchable face. Say TJ, what you done started? Tell you, hey, what month is the fight? Whatever month you want it to be. I was hoping somewhere around August or September. I thought we were doing a Super Bowl. You wanted to be in a Super Bowl in San Francisco next year. Yeah, so all the former current players can be there to see him get his ass whooped. Well, what about our show?

We can do it tonight. He said you ain't gonna be able to show. That's what he said. That'd be perfect too. We had a fight before the show. Not the same day, I'm saying like a few days before. Oh Lord have mercy. You gotta remember Super Bowl is a seven day event.

Seven day week. I know. So we can schedule it. I bet you ain't heard from him because I told him to send a contract. So we'll have a fight that Friday night and we'll do our show that Thursday night. Bingo. Yeah.

Hey, just pay him off back in the 40s and 50s, man. Just pay him off. Hey, pay him to take a dime like Harlem Night. Hey, pay him to take a dime, man. Hey, listen, I'm not doing it like Harlem Nights. Hey, Pam will take a dime, man. Hey, listen, I'm not doing it. I got too much pride, T. I got to show the world we got to learn to stand up the bullies.

We got to learn to stand up the people that's bigger than us and stop looking at people that have size and strength and allowing that to intimidate us. Oh, you know I ain't scared. Remember it's not the story, not a story of David and Goliath, right? Same thing. That's what it's going to be. You have to play.

It's going to play out in real life. That's all I got to say. You know, I'm with you. I just, I'm advising you make sure it's just hands only. Just, Hey, I got it. I got, I got the quickest feet in the world. You know they used to call me Luke Kane back in high school. Remember, Mortal Kombat, Luke Kane.

Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. That was me. That man get his hands on you on show? Hey, that's the same thing as to say on Sundays. If they get their hands on me, and only one person was able to do it. Revis. You just got, you know, you was, I see when Revis did that, you was one foot in,

one foot out. You went all the way in. You went all the way in. Well, I sure hope he all the way in when he fight James. Oh, I definitely am. Or he'll be, he'll be, he'll be on both feet out. Hey, I've been working on my wrestling techniques too. Oh Lord. See I definitely am. Or he'll be he'll be on both feet out. Hey I've been working on my wrestling techniques too. Oh lord see what you said TJ. Everybody talking about he gonna wrestle.

No I'm talking about in the third round he gonna be tired. You better go. You ain't gonna get to the third one. You better go get with one of them Gracies and get on some Jiu-Jitsu so that when he when he grabs you. Wait a minute. Hold on minute. Hold on, I'm a black belt, TJ, what you talking about? Nah, that's Hermes, that ain't no Jiu-Jitsu belt. Hey, you better go get one of them graces, somebody teach you some Jiu-Jitsu when he grabs you, you got it, that's your best bet. Pay John Jones to teach you.

You go to Albuquerque, New Mexico, that's where John, that's where he trained out of, go to new Albuquerque, New Mexico. That's what John that's what uh, uh, He trained out of go to Mexico for like a uh a month Yeah, I i'm ready man. Yeah, the fact that y'all don't believe me that that kind of hurt man Chad that meant hey wrestling. That's all the big dudes do hey, that's all they don't do Wrestling fighting. I don't may may don't matter with anything combat sports He's going to be tired in 20 seconds because the first thing you'll do is ah Done gassed Okay

You know, I don't take much energy to grab somebody that can't get away do realize that man played in a fail So he did he rushed the quarterback, but you know when they were going on on no-uddle. He was still rushing the quarterback. Okay, I'm just this late I tell you what I didn't done enough talking tonight. I can show you better than I can tell you. Okay. All right TJ bad. Thanks for joining us man. We got to get you to come back on on the reg, bro Man, y'all gotta holla at your boy. Hey boost mobile, man. Let me get that shirt man. I see they both got the Boy, hey, boost mobile, man. Let me get that shirt, man. I see they both got the boots on with them back. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he full rules report sent to the NFL teams this week, this is now 15 yard penalty. It's being considered a violent gesture.

So every time you got a CD and all the guys like to... What are we? You know what? I'm not even gonna upset myself. I'm not even gonna upset myself because whatever the competition committee, whoever is responsible for this and making the rules, still, they all about control. Taking away our NFL. NFL stands for no fun league. And they continue to strike and continue to find ways to take fun away from the game

and allow players not to be them individual selves. But, you know, attendance was down, right? If if I'm not mistaken but y'all go ahead and do it your way. Hey Ocho they give me 60 million dollars I'll go out there in a tuxedo. Hey Ocho you think about that money Ocho you made good money. Ocho those jokers making six seven times what you made. Oh, yeah Thank you. You think about what you made and not? 66 exit. Yeah

Okay, hey, oh Joe. I'm having everything. I'm having a thing. Oh nice and deal took my shirt is So nice. I I want a problem. I want a problem little bit. I tell thing, if I was playing in today's era, all the stuff I was doing back then, I'd still be doing it in Africa. You still do it? Oh man, plus something. I ain't gonna get no penalty. I ain't gonna do nothing to get my team a penalty. But you don't.

I never got my team no penalty. I never- I'm gonna talk some- I'm gonna talk ish now. Oh yeah. But then now you can't say the n-word. Oh Joe Yeah, I know can you imagine if we was playing during the social media era? How many times we don't say the n-word on that field? Oh, yeah, you heard me. You heard me Can you imagine if we were in the social media era? Oh Lord man, listen

Boy Man, listen. No. Boy. Oh Lord. Not me, I got in trouble for tweeting on the sideline when we played Philly. I got in trouble for tweeting on the sideline in the middle of a preseason game. That was the beginning of social media era for me in 2009.

Can you imagine? Man, listen, I'll score a touchdown and go live on Instagram. Oh, who? I told you. Because you don't know, Joe. I did, I did. But see, I did the celebration while pretending like I had a phone. Joe Horn actually went and hid a phone. Pull the phone and pulled the phone out.

I said pretty soon somebody go, hey, I ain't gonna lie one time. I'm gonna say, look, I'm gonna a lot one time. I'm gonna say look I'm gonna send a hundred thousand. I'm gonna call Uber Eats. Uber Eats gonna bring me a pizza on the sideline. I would say look here, I'm gonna tell my agent, my furniture people, I'm gonna send a hundred thousand to the side because I know I'm gonna get fined. Uber Eats gonna bring me a pizza. Hey, that's the good one right there. Listen, today's game I will push the envelope.

I really, they allow everybody to celebrate. They allow group celebrations. But everybody doing the same stuff. Nothing is authentic. Nothing is organic. They're doing stuff they see on TV. They're doing stuff they see on TikTok. Right.

You get that. Oh, the NFL is all about fan engagement, right? Well, this is what y'all want. You want the fans to enjoy the game and have fun? No, we tell y'all what it is how to engage the fans. Don't you try to come up with something. Oh, no, no. I'm coming up with something.

I'm going to push the envelope. Don't let me score in the north and south end zone. Don't let me be playing away. Man, I'm pulling the fan out of the end zone, man. We're going to sit there and do the kid and play. Then I'm going to put it right back in the stand. Can you imagine? Man, you will pulling the fan out of the end zone, man. We're going to sit down and do the kid and play. Then we'll put it right back in the stand. Can you imagine? Man, you will get the fan fold out. You know, the fans can't step on the field.

That is a memory. I promise you, if I was playing today, whatever game I score, I'm telling you, I will pull a fan out the stands in the north or south end zone, pull them down and do the kid and play. That will be iconic because it's something that's never been done before. Everybody's doing stuff. Now that you can celebrate, they just repeat the same stuff over and over. Somebody has to push the envelope and make it fun.

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