Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Aaron Rodgers annoyed, Brady fires back, Russell Wilson’s shakey future

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders discuss New York Jets QB Aaron Rodgers butting heads with HC Robert Saleh, Tom Brady firing back at Bucs QB Baker Mayfield, Pittsburgh Steelers QB Russell Wilson’s future as a starter in the NFL could be in jeopardy and much more!03:18 - Vikings go 4-0 with win over Packers06:47 - Aaron Rodgers and Robert Saleh drama11:52 - Kliff Kingsbury great play caller and QB coach14:30 - Younghoe Koo’s game winning FG18:43 - Bengals get first win of the season21:55 - Russell Wilson’s future as a starter34:00 - Bears beat Rams36:04 - Raiders beat Browns40:42 - CJ Stroud lifts Texans46:00 - Q and Ayeee(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Green Bay Packers turned the turnovers, halted the comeback attempt. The Vikings dominated early, but had to hang on. Minnesota scored touchdowns on four of its first five positions. Sam Donald for three touchdowns, but the Vikings seem to leave. Let their foot off the gas. We see a lot of that. Have a 28, 22 lead with more than 10 minutes left.

Love through for 202 yards and three touchdowns in the final 15 minutes. Set career high and passing yards. Three eighty nine touchdown passes with four completions. Thirty two. But he wore far jersey to the game and just like far three turtles Hey Stop it went far through three turnovers. He had about six touchdowns though Brett Brett though your pick keep on going and smile at you You know, I played with him as a rookie in Atlanta. Brett was one of a kind, still is.

Loving life. He didn't care. That's what Buckhead was jumping time. Yeah, but he didn't, he didn't, he didn't, what you say. Buckhead was jumping back there. It ain't popping like that no more. No, Magic City would jump back there, but he was Buckhead. But anyway, that's what he got to point.

Magic City still popping. And Magic City still popping. Oh no. No, I ain't been to the Strip during the 30 years. I was 17 for me, but I No, I ain't been to the strip during the 30 years. I was 17 for me, but I went. I ain't been to the strip during 30 years. How long have you been, Jay? Yesterday?

I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I can't tell you the last time I been to the strip club. Because I ain't, I ain't trying to spend no money. When you come in there, you know what I don't like? I don't mean to get off track, huh? And y'all chat, y'all stay with me now. When you go to the strip club and you purposely, you stand in the back because you don't want to spend no money but they still come stand next to

you and try to ask for it when they come off stage if i'm on the tip you i'll walk up there but they make me feel uncomfortable so i go get the wings you know mad you're gonna take care of you know man you didn't stop though you ain't going to go over the wings you went there for the guys you like a whole lot of stuff for what I feel. I thought you said you were done. You said you was done. My man. My man. No, you walk into

that one. You walked in that one. Man, see, this is why, this is why we can't have nice stuff. Y'all see what I go through? See what I go through, Jack? This is why I can't call it. This is why I can't call it, because this is what he want to do. He want to join all the time. But you know, guess what?

It's going to be two cats you know going to be there. And we all joking. I'm going to be here every time. We going to be there. No matter what, we going to be there. Good or bad, I'm going to be here. We going to tell you the truth. You know that.

But dad, but if the shoe was on the mother foot. Oh, oh, I would just, I would just say, man, what you want? You want me to come over there clean clean up for a week or so? Because you're going to be relentless. You will be relentless, though. And you know, you already know the chance to the chat. No, yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad it wasn't me because I couldn't afford to do that like that.

I couldn't afford to do it either. Neither you, you, you, you, you, you want a position of power? You want to visit the power? Prime, you want a position of power. You in a position of power. Prime, you in a position of power. That's a lie. Listen, I ain't got no more room for error, boy. I ain't got no room for error. It's not a...

The thing that used to be an error is not an error anymore. It's just judgment. That's all it is. It's judgment. Used to be an error. Now it's judgment. Right. Yeah. The Jets lose to be an arrow. Now it's judgment. Right. Yeah. The Jets lose to the Broncos. Aaron Rodgers annoyed at Salah's comments on offensive cadence. Let's take a listen to what Aaron had to say.

Uh oh. Thank you. That's one way to do it. The other way is hold them accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue. We've had one false start Morgan had one false start I believe until this so You know, it's been a weapon we use it every day in practice You know, we rarely have a false start and to have I don't know five today. It seemed like four or five Yeah, it's it seems like an outlier. I don't know if we need to make mass changes based on You know kind of an outlier game. Oh, that's not good.

Here comes a star play and say something different time that glad one me could I be on the crow. They did. Oh, boy. Send them around. They'll be honest and the rubbers. I'll be on the cross. That was me. Hey, man, they got to get on the side. I don't want to comment on Hey man. They gotta get on the same page.

I don't even wanna comment on that. They gotta get on the same page. When? They need to be on the same page. Hold on, Uncle. When has Rodgers ever been on the same page? He marched to the beat of his own drum, bro. Y'all know that.

I know he marched to the beat of his own drum, but you can't be calling out your head coach out there. You can't do your coach like that. He's always done that. What? You can't do that. He's always done it. When has he not't do that. He's always done it. When has he not done it?

And see, that's what happens when you're great like that. You got MVPs, you won a Super Bowl. Ain't nobody gonna say anything, oh. Hold on, let's get this straight, big fella. Everybody on this thing was great now. Yeah. Ain't no, we ain't liking greatness on this call. No, no, but I'm saying, but you don't,

the time, you know how, when it comes to the quarterbacks the more the more the more hardware you have the greater you are the greater people are willing to sweep what you say what you do under the you got to forget who's saying it. Now you change the quarterback that makes a statement like that, they ain't sweeping nothing for us. No, no, no. And Rodney, get away from that. That's my point.

Thank you. Stay with me now. That's my point. Yeah, but when does it stop? When does it stop? Never. Oh, never? No, no, no.

One thing about it, everybody in this game has a shot clock. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They'll tolerate you. Everybody's game has a shot clock. Guess what happens? It happens to everybody. They'll tolerate you until they can replace you.

That's right. Did you not see what happened in Green Bay with the quarterback before Aaron Rodgers? Did you not see what happened to Aaron Rodgers? They will tolerate you. Go back and look. AB situation in Pittsburgh. They will tolerate you until they can replace you. And when they replace you, they done. It happens.

AB Shannon ain't talking about you because you know AB is back, Shannon. I just wanted to know if she's trying to say you. AB, AB relentless on this one. That's my dog. I love you dog, that was Shannon. Shannon said he saw me. He ain't wanna talk about you.

He belong. The one thing I've learned about you, what you told me is that, hey, block that noise out. You know who you are. Somebody saying this about you or calling you this, you know that's not who you are. So why does somebody that you don't even have no dealings with saying something about you, bother you?

Be like, bro. But see, it's the attraction. It's the attraction. Most people are attracted to hate. I'm attracted to love. Show me you love me, I got you. I'm attracted to love too. Listen, I'm attracted to love too,

but I need a little bit of hate. Prime, I need a little bit of hate. I need a little bit of balance. Like on Twitter. You probably got ping pong pedals on your bed and you ain't got no ping pong tape. You probably want to be spanked more than that. I got a whole dungeon. I got a whole dungeon. I don't want to hear that. I'm just telling you about me. You got the swing set. It ain't for the baby. Yeah I got the swing set. You want to hear that. I'm just telling you about me. You got the swing set. It ain't for the baby. Yeah, I got a swing set. You want to see it?

I got a swing set right here. No, I do not want to see it though. I don't want to see it. Hey, listen. Wait, you know what, chat? For those of you, you saw the movie Fifty Shades of Grey? That was my script. They took the feel.

I sent in footage. I was supposed to be Christian Grey. I was supposed to play that part. They took my script and the footage. I sent in visual reference to show them what I could, you know, what I had and what I could do and what I do at home in my little dungeon. And then when they made a movie out of it, I sued and all.

The sad thing about it, sad thing about it, it's a little truth to that, what you're saying. Yeah. See, that's the thing that they don't understand. It's a little, to every good joke, truth to it. Right, absolutely. Listen, one thing about it, my last name ain't heart and I don't understand. It's a little, to every good joke, it's a little truth to it. It's a little truth to it.

Listen, I know, all right, listen, one thing about it, my last name ain't heart and I don't tell no jokes. I lie for you before I lie to you. Well, y'all, ay, I'm clean as they come. Ty, you know me, I'm clean as they come, Ty. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha. Sound a little dirty to me, couple of weeks ago. Sound a little dirty to me, couple of weeks ago.

Sound a little dirty to me. Oh Lord have mercy. The commander's getting the dub in Arizona. Jayden Daniels looked like the real deal time. He's been sensational. You know what? Cliff Kingsbury. Will somebody say Cliff Kingsbury?

That is the engineer behind this ship. He was doing the same thing and it didn't work out in Arizona. Okay, Cliff Kingsbury is a brilliant. Let's get that straight. Brilliant. Look at what he did. He had he had Johnny Manziel when Johnny won the Heisman. He had him in Texas and he used to go see. He had Pat Mahone. He had Mahone boy.

You saw the one thing ain't no denying his ability to coach quarterback and his ability to call plays. Now, there's no, there's no questioning that. You look what he did that Kyler, Kyler was rookie of the year, playing extremely well. Kyler got hurt his knee. You know, it takes a quarterback a while, especially a quarterback like Kyler because he's so reliant on his legs,

has an unbelievable arm, can make all the throws. But now he's kind of got his, he got his legs back under him. But Cliff Kingsbury and what he's doing with Jayden Daniels, 26 of 32, one touchdown interception They ran the ball for over 200 yards. They totally dominated Arizona They stopped it you run the ball over 200 yards. You can't stop it Mm-hmm, and you 26 for 30 you can't complete 82 percent of it passes through the first four games Which is an NFL work record by a long shot first First four games through a four game stretch.

And I'm proud of it. I love it. I love it. So I don't man. I didn't think I didn't think Washington, because I'm always Larry of jumping out there, especially when you start the rookie quarterback time, because a lot of times you don't know. I mean, he had 55 college starts. Fifty five, not 25, because a lot of times these guys come in, they red shirt, they play a year or two, and they go straight to the NFL.

They got 13, 14 starts. This young man has 55 starts. And that's probably why he looks as poised as he does back there in that pocket. Yeah. Yes, yes. But the commander's. He's resilient too.

He's resilient, because they was hating on him at Arizona State. Yeah. And he's resilient. He stood up to it. When a band took he took the husband and give him the last year. He took it. Yeah. He went and took it. And he's still going and I love it. Absolutely love the young man. Commanders lead the NFC East with a three and one record, two and one away, 42-14 over the Cardinals. Young Hoku kicks the Falcons to a win over the Saints. Who you say? Who was his name?

Young Way? Who? Young Way Hoku? Ho-who? No, you ain't what you say, though. I say Young Hoku. You told my son that. No, you can't. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho.

Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Ho. Young way or young hoe? Young way cool. You see what I'm saying? Don't try to change that dog. You gotta stop. Hold on. Look how it's spelled. How does it spell? Hey Joe. Okay. How'd it spell young?

How'd they spell it young? They don't spell it young like we spell it. I think they spell it Y-U-E-N-G. So how you know how to spell that and you know how to spell the other one? No, I know. She, oh Ash, spell it with O. Young, old, cool. But see, but it's a young way. You said, you said young ho. That's what he said. Hold on, hold on, listen to me. Hold on, okay. Okay, what is this spell?

Y-O-U-N-G-H-O-E. What is that spell? Young Ho. That ain't nobody's name. That ain't nobody's name. That is nobody's name. That is nobody's real name. That is nobody's name. That is nobody's real name. And you gon' say.

That ain't nobody's name. That is not nobody's name spelt like that. You know that ain't nobody's name spelt like that. That is his name. That's pronounced Young Way. But it's spelled. Why you say Young Way? No, she put it on there. Young way. But if you

go look at it, it's YON GHOE. GHOE don't make that sound. Good. Good. Good. Good. See, you always try to get what I do. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying to get what I Oh, I thought you were talking about two weeks ago. I ain't even talking about it. I didn't know what you were talking about. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Say, ZB, pause it, Edmo.

You got my stomach hurting, man. Edmo, who picked our all game committee, 30 yard passing appearance penalty, set up the Falcons for Young Way kick he kicked a 58 yard This is the second big Which they scored zero Offensive touchdowns two or more defensive or special team touchdowns the last time it happened week 9 1977 and a win over Detroit Wow, I Think Lehman Bennett was the head coach back there. They had a good defense, but they had a good defense back then 1977 and a win over Detroit. Wow.

I think Lehman Bennett was the head coach back then. They had a good defense, but they had a good defense back then. You know, hey. Man, we were bad at porn. Man, you crazy. Yeah, he's talking. That's not the way I was in Atlanta.

You know, they had Buddy Curry. They were 10 years old. You were in Atlanta. Cotton Dog. They had Billy White shoes. Yeah. They had Steve Barkowski. You know shoes take that serious, right?

He really want white shoes. Oh, absolutely. If you see it, I've never seen him without white shoes. White dress shoes. That's what I'm saying. We don't understand, Billy White shoes take that serious. Go ahead, Chet. What you got a thing up for, Chet?

You ain't a jerk. He probably going to the bathroom. I ain't never seen a man poop that much. He's like an old man. He must be took Metamucilus and prune juice or something. He stay in the bathroom. Y'all got me in tears. I had to go get me a paper towel.

Joe Burrow and the Bengals get their first win over the Panthers. Oh Joe, your Bengals playoff prediction is still alive. Joe Burrow put together another solid day, completing 22 of 31, 232, two touchdowns, one pick, and the team's rushing attack. Chase Brown, Zach Moss combined for 131 yards, two touchdowns on 30 attempts. Ocho, your team, what you thinking? Listen, listen, the Bengals look good today.

Obviously we did play the Panthers. The Panthers, listen, I said some things about them before they played the Raiders. Obviously Andy Dalton is in there now. They look decent. Deontay Johnson had a good game. Xavier Leggett, you got to show up for your quarterback. Baby, you gotta hold on to some of those balls.

Mingo, y'all gotta do, listen, y'all gotta show up. My Bengals, we won a game, but again, people will say, oh, mingo. Y'all got to do, listen, y'all, y'all got to show up. My bangles, we won a game. But again, people will say, oh, you won a game, but you played the goddamn Panthers. That's no disrespect to them. Do disrespect. We need to win. We needed this game.

We need this game to get some continuity, to find some rhythm. Jamar Chase, boy, you look good, boy. Yeah, that's a grown man, ain't it? Listen, this is why- That's a grown man. You pay, you pay a receiver like that because, this is what you pay. You pay a receiver like that because you get the results you get today. You take it. No, no, no. But again, he showed you today why he should be paid to keep doing your thing.

Yeah. But I mean, that's probably don't take care of him in the end of the season. Yeah. In this day and age of the bag for a guy to be playing and he hadn't got his bag and everybody else has that. That says a lot about his character, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he bought the leapfrog. He bought the pole vault over, over Justin Jefferson. That thing will be 36, 37 next year.

Hey, yeah. Yeah. What y'all think about the couple cats in college? It's not a couple everybody experienced it. Now is the whole thing of guys getting to that fourth game and they want to get in the portal just like the gentleman from when the college you were yeah you and LB yeah yeah oh man look yeah all I would say is this is getting it right a young man he took their words that Ellie I got a hundred

five for you you come here okay. Okay. He gives there. They've only given him 300, bro, run me my money. But see, we always got to stand down south. Money out of sight calls a fight. I'm gonna need to get that. Now you're gonna have to give me 50,000 of it at a time. When I show up, I need to, at least I got to get half the money. But you know what, this bad thing about it, man,

is really turning into a real business. It is. Oh yeah. And it's taking away the realness and the truthfulness of it. Like, like you, I knew a lot of people was gonna go through something because I know what we go through. And you know, we, we can't do nothing up under the curtains. You know that behind the curtains, whatever, because we have a few guys that want to come

in and they want to talk to you about getting a red shirt and someone was actually playing and I know everyone else was experiencing the same thing. If we're experiencing that and that's tough, man, that's tough because now, you know, you granted then next thing, you know, the guy jumps in the portal on you and you try to look out for him and you said, Oh, so you blame me. Yeah. And you got to be careful with that kind of stuff, man, cause it's everything now.

Everything is everything now. It's totally different game, college game that y'all played, man. It's very different game. And people like, they upset at the kid. No, no, you don't quit on your team. Now run me my money. Okay, tell your boss, your boss,

I'm gonna pay you a hundred thousand. And when you show up to work and you work for like three weeks and you ain't got no check. I was like, Hey, no, you got to do for the team now. No, that young man was promised something. He was promised a hundred thousand. Now the mistake that he made time is that he didn't get, he didn't get it in writing. Because he trusted he's 18, 19 years of age. He's trusting that adults would do the right thing. He's learning a valuable lesson at a very young age. People lie. And they'll tell you what you want to hear to get you

where they want you to be. And then, oh, no, I don't blame him. I'd have left to run me my money or I'm leaving. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker. On every season of my podcast, Against the Rules, I take a broad look at various characters in American life. The referee, the coach, the expert.

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I mean, the guy hoodwinked everyone. He was very ambiguous and sketchy, quite honestly, about what the company did and how it made so much money overnight. What prosecutors allege in the indictment is that most of that $12,000 goes directly to Santos's personal bank account. I would go down these rabbit holes and start thinking about like what is the nature of truth? You know, like what can I actually like tell the reader is real about this guy's story? My phone is literally blowing up inquiries about saying,

is George going to jail? What's going on? And I'm like, why are you doing this? Like, why? Listen to deep cover George Santos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection

of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down to history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.

I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.

What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese,

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packer star Kabir Vajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. Hey, GB, explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite.

I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning in a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron, and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked, voila, you got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiral on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know who I have a problem with in this situation? I have a problem with the agent. Not the kid. The kid has been a kid. He's doing what he's told to do because he's just trying to play ball. He trusted someone to handle his business to have his contract at the collegial level and he did and they didn't.

So I don't want to hear nothing from the agent at this point. When I should have been here to lock from you in week one, week two, before we played the last two scrimmages something because that's just not right. But this is where we are in college football. Wow. The Colts beat the Steelers Anthony Richardson suffered a hip injury. Joe Flacco finished a perfect 12 for 12 on short passes, zero to nine yards in the air, 109 yards, two touchdowns and Sunday's win. Justin Fields is just the third quarterback

in Steelers franchise history to have 300 plus passing yards plus 50 rushing yards in a single game. He joined the Hall of Famer, Bobby Lane and Cordell Stewart. Bobby Lane is the Hall of Famer, not Stu Beef. That, the man is playing some good football. So what did they miss in Chicago? Because he's playing sound football.

Coaching. Isn't him and Arthur Smith, that relationship, that maturation that they have, where he's playing to Justin Phil strengths, not asking him to put a cape on like they were asking him to do in Chicago. They were asking him to put that cape on and be Superman and save the day that that wasn't him. But is it fair to a kid like now, once you're gone, they go out and get several pieces that can help you.

Yeah, that's not right. They they they draft the wide, Roma doomsday. They trade for Keenan Allen. They go get running back. Yeah, they surrounded him with pieces that they never gave Justin Fields. And then they wonder what he had. Well, you didn't give him the talent. Look at what y'all gave Kayla Williams. At the gate, he got three quality receivers, quality tight end. Now he had cold command was there,

but I just think a lot of it is coaching. You get these quarterbacks, damn the head coach, who's gonna be coaching him time? Who's gonna be his offensive coordinator? Who's gonna be the guy that's continuously and constantly in his ear? That's what's important. That's right.

That's right. You get these defensive minded head coaches and that's not a, I'm one both ways, but that position, you need somebody that can communicate, that can get on his wavelength and telekinesis, whatever he needs, they're pattern reading each other. I'm thinking just what you're thinking. You're thinking what I'm thinking.

He didn't have that. Right. And that's tough. He's gone real well. Listen, three weeks, no turnovers. And I think he might've had a turnover today, but- Yeah, he had one. It's hard.

How y'all think he's gonna play out with Russ? Oh, Russ ain't gonna see the field. Not long, unless something happens to Justin Fields. Look, I know what I got with Russ. I've seen 11 years body of work. Justin Fields, I believe at me, that's me personally, I'm just saying, I think Russ is healthy enough to play.

Because how about, my thing is, Ty, you're not healthy enough to start, but you're healthy enough to dress up. Hey, hey, I told him, I don't got nothing to do with it. He just like having his uniform on and being a part of the team. I'm not doing that. I'm serious. I'm not that kind of coach. I'm not putting the uniform on you and I can't use your in it. Yes. You can't dress up like a police and you can't stop nobody. I love Russ. I just I just want rush Russ to end right. You know, I really want I like everybody to have a nice

landing man a nice safe landing. And I just want my brother to end right because I got love for him. And I just feel like he deserves one more chance especially with the quarterbacking around the NFL right now. They deserve one more shot. Thank you. They can use them in the most. So how does it play out guys? Because you know, he's making a ton of money right now.

No, Barclay's paying a ton of money. The Steelers only pay him a billion dollars. I know, but what I'm saying is that's up next year. So where does it go? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I know what he's gonna say. I don't know if a big payday is on the horizon.

I don't know. I'm not saying a big payday, but what I'm saying is I precluded by saying I want him to have a great landing. Does he get his great landing or is he off the television or whatever? I think he'll get a great landing next year. I'm trying to think where he's going.

I think Justin Fields would probably be the foreseeable future, the quarterback for the Steelers. And Russell Wilson gets another shot somewhere else that needs a quarterback, needs that veteran presence. Someone that knows what it takes to win, someone that's obviously a Super Bowl champion. He gets that opportunity next year. With their plenty.

Okay, now let's add the business in there. I like what you're saying, Chad. Because you know, you can always take that. You always take that lane. I know you. You break down. You always take that lane. I know you. You're a great guy. You always take that lane. But what is that worth?

Is it like when you've been making studies? It's hard to make between one and five. It's hard to go down to five or six, dog. Or nine. Like it's hard. It's hard. Yeah. Can I tell you something real quick?

Yeah. Mm hmm. There's a place out west, right, that could use a quarterback. They don't have a quarterback. They don't have a stable quarterback. Who? They got an owner by the name of Mark Davis.

Yeah, they're gonna probably have a high-round draft pick too. We good, we good though. Oh, you good? We good, leave that alone. Leave that alone. Okay. Okay.

Okay. I appreciate that. Oh, Okay. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. And that's the thing, Ocho. You see a lot of these teams, they're letting these young guys play. Now I think that's a blessing and a curse is that when they remove everything and say, okay, go play. And these guys don't get some of know, some of the veteran leadership,

the understanding, some of the knowledge that they can partake now, because I got to find out by that third year, because the guys that's coming in this year, the guys that's going to come in in 2025 draft. In 2028, you have to cut them a check for 300 million. It's just that simple. You can do a set 65, $70 billion is going to be the going rate.

I can't be wishing. Watch. I can't be waiting. Can he play? And I make that kind of financial commitment because you're going to have to probably guarantee him about 120 to 150 of the 300 million old Joe. But the least the problem is if you got these young players coming into the draft and if you're

getting them early and you don't have the motherfucking tools and pieces around them, chances are they're not going to pan out how you want them to pan out because they don't have anything to operate with to begin with. I agree. You got them coming into the organization, you need them to be your savior. That's not going to work. Yeah, but I had never seen nobody say I learned a lot by watching the game. You learned by playing.

I learned that. I learned that. I mean, I think my first couple games in Atlanta, you know, they were working me in because I was just fresh off a baseball field at the corner position. And I like, hey, man, I learned a little bit. Fine. You put them young quarterbacks in there, you throw them boys to the fire, you throw them boys to the sharks, especially when they're not mentally built for that.

Then you get mentally built for that. You're 100% correct. They got to be mentally built. First of all, why are you taking them that high and they're mentally built for that? Well, you'd never know. You put them in a situation where they don't got nothing around them. Look what just happened. I ain't even finna say it.

I'm not even finna say it, but you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Conf confidence is gone Go gone Yep Nerism body language the way you talk Homework on these cats before you get them see a lot of times too as well

You got a cat this is what happens You got a cat to play two years of high school started because he started with a junior senior They go to college play two years and started when juniors, he got four years and you throw them out there. What you think gonna happen? Yeah. What you think gonna happen when they start rolling coverage and they are giving you complex defenses and you sitting up there ain't never seen that before in your life, man. And you got nobody talking to you and thinking about now you you call it a play that takes you 35 seconds to even call it there and play. I don't know where they do that at no more like what why does it have to be because they

want it don't have because they want the offense to seem like it's so unique they got a thing it ain't man we got plays called the baby little way she knew and everybody know what to do but you know they want to have you got kid, you got a kid that can learn a whole rap song. And it just came out. And that. But if you start putting a complex in a place because that's his culture, that's his nature. You got to let him work within that.

But I never agreed with these plays that takes you 40 seconds to even recite. That don't even make sense. I agree. I agree. You need to have all these offenses in college football running tempo and they getting off during the 80s, 90 snaps.

Cause they just holding up a phrase or they're holding up a picture or something and they know what that means. Everybody know what to do. The Bears get up. Everybody know what to do. Go Bears get a- Everybody know what to do. Go ahead, you wanna say something? No, I was thinking about holding up a picture or something.

And I know you know exactly what to do. The Bears get a win on this depleted Ram. The Andre Swift knifed through the Rams defense to a tune of 93 rushing yards on 16 carries. Swift also led the Bears in receiving with 72 yards on seven catches. Swift generated more than 165 total yards more than he had in weeks one through three combined.

Players reportedly asked OC for offense to be more aggressive. DJ Moore has now caught a touchdown from three number one overall draft picks, Caleb Williams, Baker Mayfield and Cam Newton. Wow. Can the bears, can the bears turn this thing around? Me? What, what, what's going on? What is the, what are the bears need time?

If, if, if, if, uh, Virginia McCasky and, uh, pace, they want to come to you and say, coach, what you think we need? You know, pace, they want to come to you and say, coach, what you think we need? You know, when you've experienced a lot of losing in historically in an organization, you got to go in and get that thing from the root man and make some significant changes because people seem to think it's just the guys on the field that are losing. It's the whole darn organization that's losing and it's a losing mentality.

And if you don't get that mess about your building, it's gonna be a problem. It's gonna be consistently there. You can't just flip a couple people, a few people, and it's gone. No, that's not the answer. You gonna have to group that thing. You gonna have to get that thing from the roots.

Wow. And they've been losing for quite a while. Yeah, the fruit of it is the losing. But what's the tree? The root of it is why are we losing. What's the tree? What's bearing that fruit? Something has, fruit has to come from somewhere.

They just don't fall out the sky at any time. Yeah, you already know it. Listen, when it come to organizations, even though the roots, when it come to trees, is at the bottom, when it come to organization, it start at the top. But that's what the root is. That's the sign.

That's the sign, you know, helping that grow. Yeah. Bring it in. The Raiders get a win without both Max Crosby, Ankle and Devontae Adams hamstring. The Cleveland Browns dropped a one in three by losing yet another winnable game. The Browns allowed 99 yards rushing on 20 on 20 missed apples. Time for the most of any defense in the game this season.

Jets week one at this point. This is very this is going to be very tough. And I. What the Browns will to do with Deshaun, Brian? We've had three years and we keep saying, you just need a little time, you need a little time. But he don't look like the Deshaun. It's going to be a tough one. I do think that they have ways to get out of a deal.

This is what I heard. It's not what I know factually. I've heard that. So I'm pretty sure they already start thinking of that before the season even commenced. And it's gonna be a tough one for them. They're going to go in another direction if they continue this.

Yeah, I just. Does it look fixable? I haven't watched him play. Well, I didn't. He doesn't look. He doesn't look. It doesn't look the same time. He just doesn't.

He doesn't look the same. And I mean, I wish I wish I wish I could say, you know what? If he had, I mean, look, he had in Joku and he had, and I get it being off a year because his last year in Houston. He didn't play. So that's a year off. I don't, you get better by playing football, not just practicing football. You need to play. Okay. Then he gets suspended for 11 games.

He plays the five games. Okay. Then he comes back next year, the following year, he gets hurt like what? Week two, week three, and he misses a whole nother season. You, it's hard when you're professional, forget the profession, to take that kind of time off. Dr. Eletroch, Dr. Andrews, doctors, they don't take no two or three years off

from doing surgery time, they do surgeries every day. Multiple surgeries to sharpen and to hold that craft, that skill. What the Sean is has played what five games, seven games in three years. I just don't. But that's another that's another organization that you look at and say, well, like, come on now, what's going on here? Yeah, it's another one of those organizations, you know, it's funny and it

That's one way to say that but then you also look at how flacco look and what he was able to do in that five six game When she and that offense look different, they look completely different last year Once he was at the helm. It's like well hell if Joe Flacco can come in here and do it and all the receivers You know, they're catching balls and you you know, doing all this stuff, Mark Cooper balling, then Deshaun should be able to do it. So I'm thinking about it. Are they calling it a different game? Like you got to think about all those, right? Are they calling a different game? Hold on. Wait a minute now. So if you have Joe Flacco, who's the backup quarterback, to me, I would think the goddamn playbook is, it's, it's,

it's open, but it ain't open like it's open for Deshaun Watson, who's the backup quarterback to me, I would think the goddamn playbook is, it's, it's open, but it ain't open like it's open for Deshaun Watson, who's the actual starter. You got a plethora of players. It may be calling a different game. You think so? It may be calling it. Yeah, it may be a different, a different, it may be. That happens. Yeah, but they're two different quarterbacks. We can't call the same game that we're calling for our backup quarterback as we call for Shidori. It's a whole different game. When we say it like that.

Deshaun is mobile. Deshaun is athletic. Joe Flacco is prototypical, Statue of Liberty. He ain't going nowhere. I will play cover five. I ain't worried about it. Where he going? Where can he?

He ain't seen it all though. But he ain't seen it all. Yeah, yeah. it. Where he going? Where could he? He ain't seen it all though. But he ain't seen it all. What coverage has he seen? No one's out of study. No one's out of study. I mean, you know, he's old school, man. Old school kids, they know this stuff.

And he's played in big time games. He's won a Super Bowl. I mean, you look at his playoff resume, it's very impressive. It's very impressive. He was a drop touchdown away from going to probably two subo that Lee Evans, remember time?

He hit Lee Evans right in the bread basket. And then the kicker missed a kick that could have possibly set the game to overtime. Joe Flacco post season, Joe Flacco, if he had played like that in the regular season, he'd be the Hall of Famer. That's right. I mean, he'd be.

I just want Deshaun to do so well. I really do, man. I want our guys to be successful. Because he's a very likable guy, very likable. CJ Stroud leads his second career, fourth quarter comeback. Good teams win despite not playing their best. Stroud may plays in the final possession, capping it off with a one yard lob to Arique's brother,

Arico Ogumbawale. Ogumbawale. You did that one right, but you couldn't get the other one right. Stroud generated 345 fans a yardage, two touchdowns as they come back and win against the Jacksonville Jaguars. What was that score? 20 to 24.

Hey Ty, we gotta do something about Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence missed too many easy throws, Ocho. I mean, he got guys wide open. He rattled. It don't look good. It don't look good at Jacksonville right now. Rattled, he ratt guys wide open. He ride, he ride. It don't look good. It don't look good in Jacksonville right now. Rattle, he rattled a little bit. I feel somebody look good in Jacksonville.

Uh-uh. Jacksonville, how far Jacksonville for four miles? Oh, that's a good way. It's a long way, that's a long way, man. It's a long way. I ain't going back to four miles no way. I love my four miles, but my mama didn't. It's a long way. It's a long way, man. It's a long way. I ain't going back to Fort Meyers no way. I love my Fort Meyers, but my mama didn't here. They downstairs right here.

Trevor Lawrence was 18 and 33, 169 to touchdowns. He was only sacked once. They ran the ball 24, 158, but he just, I mean, too many throws. He got Brian Thomas for a touchdown. He's, I'm like, bro, you gotta hit some of these. You're two, first of all. Yeah. If you only get inside once

That means there's not a tremendous amount of pressure on you or you're getting the ball out of there pretty quickly You you gotta hit you you completion percentage should be much higher 18. He's 18 or 33 That's not good. Yeah, and they ran the ball. They run the ball for what? Five yards over six, six yards a carry. You're running the ball for six yards a carry. You only get sack once. Why is your completion percentage? You need to be in the 70% time. What's their record?

What's their record? One and three. They're O-ing for it. They O-ing for it. Don't tell me that. Yeah, owing four. Travis? But CJ Stry was 27-40, 345, two touchdowns, zero interceptions, clean game. They ran the ball over 100 yards.

Nico Collins 12 for a buck 51 in the touchdown. Stefan Diggs five for 69. He did have a rush touchdown. Ogunbawale also had a touchdown. Dalton Schultz had a key third down conversion. Metchi, but man, what you call him? It's CJ just got, he just has it, man. He just has it, Ty. He just has it, Ty.

I love that kid, man. I love what he stands for. I love his presence. I love his command and offense. You know what? Some guys just go to better situations, man. We just gotta be honest. Some of you guys just go to better situations,

and it's tough. It's tough on those guys that don't, because they get the blame, and their career is a, it's during the set to be over and it's not even their fault, man. And they may never get another chance to be that star. Cause you think about it. He went there.

They had, they got Nico Collins, they had tank Dale, uh, Noah Brown was there. Uh, Dalton Schultz, very solid tight end. They ran the ball Pierce last year. They kind of upgraded that position with Mixon and the guy that came in, who was that? Cam Akers. So they've had, CJ has had players around him to help him succeed.

You see, they play some defense though, dog. They play some defense, man. They played some defense last year, tremendously. And guess what they did? They went out, they had Stingley, they locked him up. They get the guy from Minnesota. They brought him over. You know, they take Will Anderson Jr., high draft pick.

Yes, sir. So they, man, they look legit. They're gonna be a problem. They're a young team and I love them. They're gonna have to put this thing together. Cause you know, CJ. Well, first of all, that, that, that, that, first of all, that division is not tough.

Let's just get that straight. But they have the best quarterback in that division. Normally the best quarterback is gonna win the division. That's right. They could take that division every year. Yep. And they went and got him digs. So they had Nico Collins, they got Tank Dale,

they got Dalton Cho. They say, guess what? We gonna get you another weapon. We go get Stephane Diggs. You know what? We gonna upgrade our running game. We gonna get Joe Mixon and Cam Akers. Wow.

So, and they got a solid offensive line. They got Tuncil, who's one of the hot D, go get Joe Mixon and Cam Akers. Wow. And they got a solid offensive line. They got Tuncil, who's one of the hot, if not the highest paid left tackle. They solid there. They can run the football well enough, but they put the ball in CJ hands and say, CJ, do what you do, son. He protected it as in college though.

I mean, he's not turning the ball over at all. No. So I love how he protects the ball. I love what he brings to the game. Now it's time for our favorite segment, Ocho. It's time for Q and A. We got graphics two times. Check this out.

Look at our graphics. Hey, y'all came up since last time. Hey, you'all became, y'all became ups. Hey, you want to back porch because I hear a cricket or something in the backdrop. I am on the back. I figured you hit him down. He had a cricket. Cricket. Cricket. Cricket.

Cricket. Night. Hey, that's your phone with them crickets. He ain't no cricket that night. Whoa. Whoa. Hey, that's your phone with them crickets or that's outside? That's outside. No, I'm outside. I'm sitting on the patio. For real? Yeah, it's beautiful out here, man.

Vivian. Oh, them TVs. Them TVs on the wall. Oh, OK. OK. OK. OK. OK.

It kid me. I like big TVs. This question is for you, Coach Prime. She's like, Coach Prime, when are you gonna shave? This week. You gonna shave it off? By the time they see me next time, I'll be young again. I'll be young again.

Philosophical truth and wisdom. Shannon, you have to be able to take a joke, fam. Damn, they think you got sensitive? Y'all think you got sensitive? He was good. Cause you was sweating now. You did go to the water pretty quick. Look.

Yeah, I didn't go to the water now. No, this tea. Time, they don't, see. People don't understand our relationship. So they don't get it, it's like when I said what I said, oh, I guess he and Prime ain't friends no more, he talking about his tea, I said, guys, y'all that shit. Yeah, you're supposed to, I want you to tell the truth.

I don't want no lie, you're supposed to tell the truth. And we never lie to each other. Even when I'm wrong. No, no. But see the thing about it, they don't understand you're not personal. You're talking about real stuff that really transpires. It's not personal. Now when you start talking about me, it's personal. And that's what I'm saying. I'm talking about the product on the field.

That's right. I said, he... I ain't tripping. let me ask you a question. What y'all think he tell him in the meeting? If we can't run the football, we can't protect the quarterback, we can't stop the run, we can't attack their quarterback,

how do you expect us to win? If those are the two, those are the two foundation pieces of any team, you need to be able to run the ball, protect your quarterback. You need to be able to stop the run and attack the other team's quarterback. If you can't do those things, you can't win. Yeah, you know, some people are like, you just come out there and want to throw the ball 100 times. You don't want to run. Like that's not the game plan.

I promise you, that's not the game plan. Not mine. Get a ball to your running back. Let him just run through the hard high defense. Yeah, we wanna do that. As General I said, the first Nightcap episode I watched was Coach Prime episode, and having missed Nightcap says, my favorite member was Unc said, I generally make him, oh Lord have mercy.

Good to see you again, Coach Prime. Yeah, we seen that. I remember that, you remember that, you know what I'm saying? We don't remember that. Wait, what you saying? Yeah, we seen that. I remember that. You remember that? We don't know that. Wait, what you saying? Yeah, I remember that.

I mean, hey, look, the one thing, the one thing me and coach, me and me and time gonna do. Now, we gonna be down. I'm ten toes down. He ate but we we in there together though. We don't we in there together. I know

he's gonna get it in. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? That's why I do what I do. That's exactly why I do what I do. We all 20, we too short of 20 to all 20, but we good, now we go good though. We go, hey, that's what we do. Oh Lord Jesus. Man, look.

You ain't no good, man. You ain't no good, man. We should have had time. We, you and I talked about, we was before our time. You remember I used to come on NFL Network. You hit me up, you say, hey, you say, I need you. I say, tell me what you need. He said, I need you, hey, all I need is one Sunday.

I need Sunday, 18 weeks. This was what, this is what he and I talked about doing. We were before our time though. I'm gonna tell you what, I'm gonna tell you who else. Chad was too. He came on that with me a couple times too. Oh yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right. And we had fun.

I mean, we was just before our time. Because we could have been producing our own stuff, doing it the way we wanted to do. Because I know Chad don't need no script. Don't give him nothing. Let him be who he is. Let me go and they want him to read this. Leave this man alone man. Let him be who he is. That's what we love. Bad. Yeah. Ocho, I don't know what you saw. Yeah, we've been through our time. But hey, I sure act the fool on that show. Hey, he out. Hey, I need you to be you. He's like, just like you and I be joking.

Bring that to the show. I said, okay, say no more to you. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. Are you showing that to me? We had some, oh God, we had some problems on there. Man, I can't be on TV.

You know, LTV's on there, so LTV just sitting up there. And LTV, like, these fools are crazy. They are ignorant on here, man. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says, High Coach Brian, what's the biggest lesson you've learned as a coach that you wish you had known during your playing days? And how do you apply that lesson to your coaching today?

Oh, biggest lesson I've learned as a coach that I've known in my playing days. Ooh, these kids are different. These kids are different these days. It kids are different. These kids are different these days. It's totally different. You can't expect what you would give. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Right now, stay right there.

They're right there. I got to I got to write that down. Yeah. You can't expect what you would give. I'm going to use this way. I'm going to use this in my next argument. That's tough. That's why I can't be no coach. Tyron got, he has patience.

And that's the one, that's the number one thing you have to have in surplus. Because like you said, look, time, you know, we go out there, we practice all week. We go over Saturday morning, we talk about the first 15. We have Saturday night meetings, we go over the first 15. The first, and I'd be dang if we don't get out there and the first, somebody jump off side, somebody fall start, somebody fall to side.

I'm like, bro, we've been practicing this. We've been going over these plays here for three days. How you mess it up? And they say my bad. And this is the thing to get my bad, my bad. We know. Oh, you want me to take the blame on that one when you jumped outside?

No, I'm good. Right. And you can't be critical like we used to be because they can't handle that either. Nope. It's a whole different, oh, it's a whole different game I did, man. But you don't play, here's the thing though,

you don't first anyway. Yeah, but I can make you feel like I do. Ah! I can make you feel like I do. That's my kids. Anthony Blaylock, can you ask Coach Prime how is he preparing for life after Shadoor? Oh, first of all, you try to get,

I know my son like a book, so I know all his ways and the things that makes him who he is. And when you're recruiting, you look for those attributes. Like you can't find another Travis Hunter, but you could get close. You could find those attributes that he had. He may not be a two way player. You may have to get two guys to be that one guy, but try to find those attributes that he has.

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Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ty, I remember, help me understand this, and I'm not just talking about college players, I'm talking about more of the NFL players. The NFL players used to say, we want guys that have played the game, played the game at a high level to critique us. Okay? Because what they said, you never played the game, so you don't have critique us. Okay, because what they're saying, you never played the game so you don't have the right. Okay, fine. Now you get a guy like myself, you get a guy like Ocho, you get a guy like Cam, and we offer what I believe is fair but harsh criticism. Now we get labeled as haters. I'm gonna tell you something, and this is profound. You have a unique personality which we adore and you could do that and you are one of the greatest and you could do that. Chad and I, we can't do that

and I don't know why but there's something inside me, there's definitely something inside him because Chad ain't been talking about nobody especially the season, he ain't gonna do it. And I don't really talk about Conor's, I don't do it because, you know, I'm big brother. I'm the OG. So if I talk about him as a rap, we, that friendship is over. So I was always so cognizant of how they felt that I could never, I could talk abouton of how they felt that I could

never. I could talk about a receive all day but I could never talk about a D.D. man. I I just couldn't say man, this guy ain't it. He can kill the I I couldn't do it. If Jan ain't gonna nail it, he ain't gonna do it. He he's not gonna do

it. He's not gonna do it. He's a nice guy. He's got better. He's gotten better though. I've I've I've gotten better. I've I've gotten better with being critical with without having to be as harsh as I should. So, I've gotten better with being critical without having to be as harsh as I should. So I've gotten better. But you know me very well.

And I told you, I struggle with that. A lot of people, a lot of people get on my case, you know, prime about, oh, you can't be on this, you can't be on this show because you're not critical of people. And you won't say the things that need to be said. But prime, you know, I am when it comes to talking about people. It's just hard for me to do that. That's not your nature. you know I am when it comes to talking about people it's just hard for me to do you see the thing about Chad a clown but he's not gonna clown you yeah he ain't Chad ain't built like that he has no hate no animosity none of that nothing that ain't in

his heart that's not how he's built that's not how you Shannon will kill you and look at you and walk away And let a match and throw it on you to finish you off I'm gonna sit up there patch you down get all the smoke But you know what time it is thank you up and people like oh that you hate no, bro All I'm doing is making my experience of playing in the NFL and what I see and I don't watch the kind of film that I did when I was at CBS Because but there's a reason why God they say I'm hating don't nobody say well that ain't what happened Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. They don't never say that. Oh Joe. They say I'm hate They say I'm wrong. They say I'm hating. They ain't say I'm wrong. They say I'm hating.

The only way they see, the reason they say that is the tone. Yeah. That's it. Is it? But see, the thing about you at the place in your life, you ain't got time for that. I ain't got time to be trying to make you feel good

by me telling you the truth. That's who you are. I ain't gonna make you feel good by me telling you the truth. You, that's who you are. I ain't going to make you feel good about me telling you the truth. You better handle this truth. This is what it is. That's how it is. Bay said, Hey good people, Congrats prime on becoming a pop pop. Congratulations.

Oh show. Oh show on the bingo's first win. Congratulations. Shannon on cat Williams interview has surpassed 77 million views. Could you please ask cat closed the portal? He opened I'm done with 2024. I could not have imagined that when I sat down with that interview time that...

God did. So you gotta understand what you've been through in your life and your journey. Come on, man. Don't you deserve it? I think I've earned it. Don't you deserve it? But I think the thing is,

you know what helped me the most is that a lot of what was going on with me is that you was right there and you and I was talking about it. And you like, bro, you think God brought you this far to bring you this far? He's like, you favor. He's like, while they talking,

you're still building, building you still accumulating You still producing great content. Don't worry about what they say worry about what you know, okay? The people that love you will continue to love you the people that support you will continue to support you you'll find out who was I Told I was I just had a had just had a podcast club, Shay Shay. Ocho, my grandfather used to say, boy, the devil will never show up as the devil because if he did, you wouldn't do the deal with him.

You see this? Ocho, stop, Ocho, stop, Ocho, stop. Come on now, bring that to me one more time. The devil will never show up as the devil because if he showed up as the devil, you wouldn't do the deal. You see, The devil will never show up as the devil because if he showed up as the devil, you wouldn't do the deal. You see, the enemy will never show up as the enemy because if he did, you wouldn't allow him in your circle.

So therefore he couldn't get close to you or she couldn't get close to you. You have to learn, some things you have to learn. The one thing I can honestly say is that everything that I've gone through and I've talked the time is I like a Lot of times I'll be going through stuff and he would pick up the phone and call me He didn't give me an opportunity cuz he know I was leaving and he said yeah, he said look

Yeah, they're jokes, but there's a little truth in the joke that they tell it He said but hey, yeah, let it go off your back It'll pay it'll it'll be it'll percolate for a day or two, a week or two, but just don't respond. Just let it go. But that's what was like, like out after cat, is that what, I mean,

nobody had a problem with anything I said, anything that I did until a cat came along. And then all of a sudden, it's another level. John is different levels to this thing, man. Like when you start to affect and infect people lives, that stuff is real. Like you, you, you have a true voice amongst our people right now. And it's a mighty voice. You got to take that series and the devil ain't playing with that.

He's trying to destroy your character. So people won't believe you or trust you or find all of you. That's what they do. That's the, that's the, that's the wiles of the enemy. Everybody you know, like us, okay. Oh, you know what I mean by us? Try to attack our character, man.

So our people won't believe in us, but they won't look up to us or out for us that they're trying to destroy us. That's the tank. Or they give you enough resources to let you kill your own character. Well they ain't gave me enough of that yet. I'm sure I'm sure trying to get I ain't gonna kill my character but they they're gonna give me enough money that I tell. I tell you what, I'm gonna leave the Sharp family. We ain't gonna kill them, but you take a shot at it. I'm gonna leave the Sharp family a lot better than what I came into,

and I'm gonna leave my community in Savannah State and a lot of other things a lot better than it was. I promise you that. So, my day coming. My day coming. Dee Talis says, DJ, Florida State quarterback says, how FSU has fallen from undefeated season

to his abysmal season. Say he still loves football. Ocho and time. When you see a guy, he left Clemson, he left Oregon State, he's at Florida State now. Is that a red flag to you when a guy has, this is his third university and say what, three years? Is that a red flag to you, Coach?

No, not anymore because of how today's football in the portal works. So it is really not anymore. It used to be once upon a time, two schools was it. That was too many. So it really not anymore. It used to be once upon a time two schools was it that was too many So it's not anymore You just got to really examine and ask why you got to ask those two questions when you have a guy on a recruiting trip Okay, I know you're in a port would let me know why because I already talked to them I already talked to your old school. They told me why I want to hear your wife

You know why you in this portal? So this stuff is complex, man. And you got to really get some deep down interviews with these kids to find out what's really going on with them. Because sometimes they didn't leave the way you thought they left. I think some of them keep running. They keep running from competition. That's true. They don't want to compete. That's a lot like that. How you go from Oregon, the Clemson, the FSU, so me based on what you look like this year, now it makes it makes me believe you running away from competing. Yeah but the thing about it every stop this gentleman has made he's been a starter. So he's won the job. So he's won the job. So he's he's won the job.

But is he is he winning the job based on winning the job and holding on to the job to do everything. You put the wrong thing in water. They don't taste like tea. Okay, just understand that. Hey, just understand that. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, you got some coming right now. Hey, you know. Wrong thing in water.

Yeah, don't expect tea. Because boiling water can have two different effects, Ocho. It'll soften the potato, but it'll harden the egg. Come on. Ocho, I'm done. I ain't giving you no more, Ocho, I'm done. There you go, there you go. I'm done.

Time out, time out, Ocho. Let's go, we no more Ocho. I'm done. I'm done. Time out. Time out Ocho. Let's go. We gonna keep it moving. Hey, boy. Where you got that from? He got that from the... That time out was the time out. That day was it. What is that? You just about to say that on the head. You say, that head.

You see, we were doing so good. We were doing so good. You were doing so good. You know, hey. Hey, that were doing so good. We were doing so good. We were doing so good. You know, hey. Hey, that was a good one. Bad. Hey, hey, give me that, give me that, give me that boiled water line one more time.

What is it? Hey, it'll soften the potato or harden the egg. Boiling water, it's boiling water. Two different effects. Harden one, soften the other. That's right. That's a good one. That's a word right there, boy.

It's a word. He got a word right there. There you go. See, there you go. Man, I was damn serious that time. No, you weren't. No, no, no, no. When it comes to me, you ain't never serious.

No, I'm always serious, man. No. Don't let it fool you. Chad, don't let it fool you. This is him. This is the Coach Fry. Not the one that you'll see with his arms folded. He got the bike turned up. That ain't him.

Hey, y'all know what? Us three need to take a trip. We need to go on a vacation together and film everything. That will be fun. Hold on. Now, that's gonna be funny. Hold on, where we going? Where we going? We going to Columbia. Oh, Lord.

Columbia? I want to go to Houston. I want to go to Houston. Let's go to Houston. I want to go to Houston. There ain't no trip. There ain't no trip. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Prime.

Boy, Houston, the trip, boy. I know Houston the trip. Dallas is, too. No, no, no, no going like, I'm sorry. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

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hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, in Columbia. Yeah, yeah. But what we spending it on? We find something. We just gonna get us a place on the ocean and have just have a great week, man. I'm gonna bring us cigars then. I'll watch out. But look, I promise you, if, when he was at Jackson State, if we'd have had a reality show, I wouldn't even wanna do TV no more. Oh. Oh. We wouldn't have to.

It'd have been over, it'd have been over. It's the same thing right now. I guarantee you, we go somewhere for a week, the three of us, is gonna be interesting. Oh yeah. Oh, it's gonna be, it's gonna be, hey. It's gonna be interesting. Bam.

We're looking like three different ways. Absolutely. We're looking like three different ways. Completely. Completely. Yeah. But we come to the same conclusion at the end of the night. You're like, we're looking at three different ways.

Man, look here. Man, it was an unbelievable show. The champ wanted to know when is our coach coming back? Hold on, how many? He'll be back, he'll be back in probably. Yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back. He'll be back.

Hey, you got any job openings? Yeah, but you ain't gonna do nothing. You ain't gonna do nothing. Hold're gonna do right. Hold on. I'm just trying. I'm trying to diversify my portfolio. You know, I got about 37 jobs right now. I know. I know.

I'm proud of you. I got a lot of them. You're really good at this because you're a really good teacher. You're a really good teacher. Right. But can you teach what you did? No.

Yeah. Yeah. I come out. Matter of fact, in the kind of teacher I am, I don't do it by by with words. I put the cleats on and actually show. So I come out. Yeah, I show. I come out there.

I route Travis ass up and then I lock him up. Yeah. But what about get mad? Did you rather try to put my cleats on? You can't do no way toes now. You know what I'm saying? I knew you were going to say that. I put my cleats on. You can't do no A toes, man. See what I'm saying? I knew you was gonna

say that. I set you up for that. I ain't think he's gonna take the bait. Y'all ain't no good. Y'all, you know what? I'm back. I'm going. I'm going. Y'all ain't. Man, look here. I ain't going. I'm bound out right now. I ain't going nowhere with y'all two.

I don't want no part of that. I will stay right here in the States. I'm gonna let y'all two have that. Hey, y'all FaceTime me. It's the only time I'll lie to y'all to FaceTime me. I don't want no part of that. Bad, look here, bad. Yeah, I know.

He hung up. He hung up. Man. Oh shit. He be back. He hung up. We get it back in a couple of weeks. We get it back in a couple of weeks. We don't want to overwhelm, overrun, overstep our welcome.

You know, we gave them a couple of times of the year, so. Holy shit. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again.

We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We're going to get them again. We don't wanna over, we don't wanna over, overrun, overstep our welcome, you know.

We gave them a couple of times of the year, so. Oh, shit. We're gonna get them again. We definitely gonna have them back on. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Guys, thank you for joining us for a very episode, very special episode. Coach Prime, the CU Buffs, they're four and one, right?

They're four and one. Big victory yesterday over UCF. I'm very proud, very excited for him. And when he hit me this morning, say, I'm coming on, so I passed the information on to Ash. And so guys, it's always a joy to have one of the great NFL players coaching at Colorado with his second year, got them playing extremely well

time I really appreciate you coming on night Calvadocho and I it's a it's indeed an honor and a pleasure to have you all man and hopefully you guys enjoyed it and know what a wonderful treat that it is because he doesn't do a whole lot of these and for him and we I was like okay bro you just want to say me say no I want to do the whole show. He's like, Hey, I want to be up on the screen when you guys are talking. I want them to see me. I don't want no thing, but I want to do the whole show. So time.

I really appreciate that. Oh, Joe. And I really, really appreciate that. Thank you for joining us for another episode of nightcap. I am your favorite off Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, the Liberty city is on the route runner. Extraordinary the bingo ring of fame, honoree, the pro City is on, the route runner extraordinaire, the bingo ring of fame honoree, the pro bowler, the all pro, that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson, just call him Ocho. Guys, make sure you

go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. And remember every subscriber counts and we thank you for counting so much. Thank you for helping us matter because of you, the wars that you see behind us. We could not have done it without you. Thank you. Chez Balaporte, we have it in stock. Hopefully by the end of the year we'll be in 14 to 16 states. If we're currently not in a state or city near you, you can order it and we'll ship it directly to your door. Thank you for your support for Chez Balaporte. Please go follow my media company page on all platforms. That's Chez Chez Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled

out. Unc and Ocho Tees are back. I repeat, Unc and Ocho Tees are back in stock. And if you ordered merch in the last three weeks, it started shipping out last week. Again, thank you, Coach Pr, for joining us. We greatly appreciate that. Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson lead the Baltimore Ravens over the Buffalo Bills 35-10. We spoke to Coach Prime. Colorado beat UCF 48-21.

What are some other scores here we wanna read? Chiefs beat the charge of 17 10, possibly lose Rishi rice for the entire season. What they fear is an ACL injury. The Bucks beat the Eagles. Baker had a huge game. Green Bay lose 29 to 31 over the, they lose to the Minnesota Vikings.

Jets lose to the Broncos, uh, the commanders do a demolition job on the Cardinals and the, uh, basically the Falcons walk it off. Uh, they kick a 58 yard field goal as they beat their division rival, New Orleans saints and the Bengals get their first win. Oh, Joe, with a win over the Carolina Panthers. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm off, he's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow after Monday Night Football. The Volume.

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