Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Addison cryptic message, CeeDee responds to Aikman, Russ dismisses Payton

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from week 8 of the NFL season including Minnesota VIkings WR Jordan Addison posting a cryptic message about wanting out of Minnesota, Dallas Cowboys WR CeeDee Lamb taking Troy Aikman’s negative comments as constructive criticism, Pittsburgh Steelers QB Russell Wilson leaving Sean Payton and his time in Denver off of his list of “great” coaches he has played for and much more!03:18 - Texans beat the Colts09:55 - A DB is a safety12:55 - What did Jordan Addison mean?18:13 - CeeDee Lamb responds to Troy Aikman’s criticism22:06 - Can Derrick Henry break the record?26:32 - Quincy Williams gets fined by the NFL29:45 - Russell Wilson leaves out Payton35:30 - Cooper Kupp on the trading block?42:00 - Jerry’s world is an amusement park(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I think we heard Anthony Richardson talked about it after the game tired ain't gonna lie. That was a lot of running right there that I did. So I just told Shane, I needed a break right here. He just took what? You just wanna play, huh? Ocho, you can't, you can't. Ocho, everything, you don't have to verbalize everything.

Right, right, right, right. Guys need to understand that. Bro, you think you being stand up, bro. You the face of the franchise. You can't come out. You too tired to turn around and hand the ball off? Hey, you know what? I thought he came out and he probably,

he didn't say nothing. I thought it was that left ankle. Oh, okay. Say that again. You can't say I'm tired, Ocho. I don't think he wanted to say he was hurt. I think it was that left ankle. So you think saying I was tired

was better than saying I was hurt? You know how that go. Once you got an injury, you know what they wanna do. They wanna take your helmet. They don't wanna let you back in the game. Ocho, Ocho, the man said I was tired. Yeah. We've seen Lamar, we've seen quarterbacks run 30, 40, 50 yards and come back in and

hand you mean to tell me this man, this man is 21, 22 years of age. And you too tired to turn around and hand the ball off. Oh Joe, that's not a good look, man. That's a horrible look. Yeah, it wasn't a good answer. It wasn't a good answer. I'm sure he he learned from it though. He learned from it. You have to be careful what you say and obviously, he's not as media savvy as other quarterbacks would be especially in that scenario in a situation like that but I still think it

was that ankle. I really think it was that ankle. I really think it was that ankle. That's why he came out. He had learned from it though. Lord have mercy. Sometimes guys just don't even say nothing. Just don't say nothing. Man. The Broncos beat the breaks off the Panthers. They don't even count. They're playing the Panthers. That don't count. We beat y'all too. You don't get no points for that.

You don't get no points for that game at all. Bo Nicks had 220 passing yards in the first half of Sunday's win, more than he's had all but one game this season. DB, JC Horn called out Sean Payton post game, try to run up the score. No, no, no, no. You let me coach the team. My job is to coach my team. Your coach's job is to coach your team. Because what I do, Ocho, when I beat you bad, I do your favor.

I let everybody knows you're not good enough. Your offense, your defense, your special teams. Cause see, if I make it a close game, you're gonna go into the locker room and say, guys, we're close. We're really close. That's a good football team and we almost had them. No, I beat the hell out you.

I let you know you're not close. You're not close in any aspect of it. So don't worry about my team. Why you want me to worry about my team? Sean Payton was brutally honest post game about playing the Panthers. That's not a good offense we played. It's just the truth.

We expected that. We're going to see a lot better teams. The Broncos are three and five, oh, five and three at Baltimore and Kansas City the next two weeks. Now, you know what? You hyping up your Broncos so much, you're doing all this hoorah and hoopla.

You're so happy about beating the Panthers. Well, hell, you finna lose the next two games. Don't worry about it. Y'all lost y'all last two. you finna lose the next two games. Don't worry about it. Y'all done lost y'all last two. You finna lose the next two games. But we play really good teams that we lost to. There's a difference. The Patriots good?

You talk about way at the beginning of the season. Did y'all lose or win against the Patriots? It's a simple yes or no. Yeah. But y'all finna in the next two though. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why you wish you were having us? I'm not wishing bad on you, I'm just being real.

I'm just being real. Oh, now all of a sudden you wanna be real. I been asking you to be real early, you wanna be real now. Hey, Chaupe said I was just brutally honest, post-gag, he said that's not a good outfit. You see, any other coach would have said that, they would have jumped on him.

If a player had said that, they would have jumped on him. But Sean Payton says it and tell the truth about the elephant in the room, it's crickets. They not good. I mean, we know that, you're not supposed to say it though as a coach. I mean, hey, the thing is, that kind of started our rivalry in Pittsburgh. I said that the first game we played Pittsburgh in 03 River Stadium,

and we shut them out my first year in Baltimore. And I said, that might be the worst team, worst Steelers team I've seen in my life. Coach Kyle was saying he shot back and said, Hey, you tell him to worry about his own team and we'll worry about our team. So that kind of started the stealer Ravens rivalry. Cause that's when we know we started getting into it. I started, you know, uh, Plexico and I went back and forth. Earl Holmes got their Plex Broncos are five and three. Got the reflex Broncos are five and three Another team my co-host is three and five five and three

Three five I bet one thing I Got another I got a side bet on top of the other bit that double or nothing No, I'm a bit I bet the Bengals finish with a better record than the Broncos. I tell you what I'm betting right now. I bet that. I ain't betting you no more. You know what I'm gonna bet? You know what I'm gonna bet? I'm gonna bet the look on your face when y'all don't make the playoffs.

Y'all ain't making the playoffs either. Earl Little Jr. That's Earl Little from making the playoffs either. Earl Little Jr. That's Earl Little from Play the Steelers. That's the brown Earl Little? Yeah. I think so. Oh, that's live.

God damn Earl. Hey Earl, if you watching, boy, I love you, boy. He was a DB, wasn't he? Now Earl played safety, boy. Man, Earl used to be. You do realize DB is safety, right? Yeah, now we know DB. Listen, let's come on now. DB is DB, defensive backs. Air is a be be be So what is that classified as? A free safety.

DB, defensive back. No, when I say defensive backs, okay, cornerback. Yeah. Any secondary is considered a defensive back. Safety, free safety, strong safety, cornerback, all of those are considered defensive backs. I don't like that, but I like it. I'm going to let you have that one. I'm going to let you but I like it. I'm gonna let you have that one. I'm gonna let you have that one.

I'm gonna let you have it. He didn't wanna change. Hey, chat, y'all see him, he just wanna argue. Just wanna say the argument. I ain't, no, I'm just, you got it. I'm gonna let you have it, baby. I'm gonna let you have it. I'm gonna let you have it.

Chat, what do y'all call a defensive, what do y'all call, what is defensive back? Is safety included as a DB? When someone says DB, the first thing you think about is a cornerback though. I think about a corner safety. That's the only thing it can be. When someone says DB, the first thing for a football person, a football mind like myself,

I think a cornerback. That's it. Now, if we talk about safety, someone says a safety, a free safety. They don't say DB. So if I say backer so if I say backer, so you what you thinking about? You're thinking about Mike, Will? If you think, if you say backer, I'm thinking about this.

I'm thinking about the Mike. So what is TJ Watt? What is Michael Parsons? D-N, D-N. Michael Parsons? TJ Watt is a linebacker. They play a free four. His hand is in the ground man he's a DN

he's a 34 backer I understand what you're saying I understand that the terminology you're talking about but once you touch the ground you are a DN even if you're in a three four yeah you being you being a little too, no, if you want to three, the D in the three, four is what JJ Watt played, which is a five technique. Well, okay, all right. So a seven technique, okay, you got seven. Seven, nine. A seven and a nine.

Nine, yeah. Okay, you got a cowboy front. Right. You got a wide nine. Well, we can call it a wide nine, we can call it a cowboy, because he's kind of outside out. We can go seven front, which is head up, you go five, which is shade, on the tackle shoulder.

That's what we call, that's what we. You're trying, you complicate, you're complicating things. It don't have to be that complicated. L. Cho, a cryptic, Jordan Addison, social media post prompt speculation, he wants to be traded. The second year receiver posted a photo of himself in a uniform with Instagram with the caption free three. For the current generation that knows that certain things will be interpreted.

Listen, when we say free anything, we already know what that means. That means you're in solitude. That means you locked up in some type of institution of some sort. And when you say he lucky with two DUI's he absolutely right. He not locked up. I mean I lead into that. I wouldn't even try to leave. I know you didn't. But he needs to think about that because Minnesota's took by him with that on his resume See, I mean about that situation. I Don't I don't like when players unhappy man I don't like when players aren't unhappy and they in they in they say stuff like that on because you never understand

What can happen because you go to a situation? That's really not that's really not for you That's really not for you. That's really not for you. If you have if you have an issue with getting the ball you go talk to the office coordinator talk to your head coach. No talk to your quarterback. So you want him so you so in other words you want to target the target but at least make me feel like I'm a part of the program at least make me feel like I'm a part of the offense. You know, he started a season. He wasn't there to start of the season, right? He just wants some production.

Um, he just wants some production. That's all I just want to touch the ball. Oh Joe, the guy in his second year. It's oh Joe. He's only been there like three games. Damn. So he thought he was supposed to have like 40 targets in 32. You got to understand how you feel.

You know, I'm here. I wasn't here at the start of the season, but I'm here now. to have like 40 targets in 32 catches. You got to understand how you feel, you know? I'm here. I wasn't here at the start of the season, but I'm here now. I would like to help us continue to win. And plus, and they're doing a lot of this with no Hawkinson. So what you think it's going to look like when they got Jefferson and Hawkinson? And listen, the fact that Hawkinson isn't there, that means some of the targets should be there.

Now, so you just, you kind of, kind of proving him, proving what he's saying right. And the only time you say free anything, especially if you're a football player or basketball, is because your lack of targets, your lack of opportunities, and you know, I say lack of production. Man, he man, he get, man, they, bro, bro, sit down. You're not Jerry Rice Rice you're not Randy

now if you one of those guys if you owe if you are Tyree or you chase you one of those top five guys you're number two you he's a number two I don't know what he could be somewhere else I know what he is in Minnesota yeah yeah I had to see it like that the man just want to be part of the office, baby. That's all. He's part of it. They give like six targets a day. Cardio is cardio.

You don't want to do this. Oh, no. How many targets you think you how many targets you think you're going to get? How many times you think you're going to get when you've got a guy like Jetta who has more receiving yards more catches in This time frame. Yeah than any other receiver in history. So how many targets you think you're gonna get? I don't know boy. That's tough That's tough you under but you understand the situation Especially you have to break it

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As a leader, I take it in. We got to work. I use it as a building block. If you say our routes are lazy, I'm going to go out there every week and show you my routes. Personally, I take that as constructive criticism as well as he should. If we can control it, let's go work at it and get better at it. I'm a hard worker. So anything you say that I'm not doing, I'm going to show you that I'm doing.

That's a very mature answer. I like that. Very, very, very mature answer. Now, is that what he really, what he's really thinking? Probably not. But what he said publicly is the perfect answer to the criticism that a legend from your organization who has won multiple Super Bowls, great response. Three. Great response. And the thing is, is that you have to understand Troy is a quarterback.

And the thing is, is that you have to understand Troy is a quarterback. Troy used to get on Mike ass, Michael Irvin. What he's saying is that like, bro, if I don't consistently know where you are, that's why people looking at us like we crazy. You and I've had the conversation as long as CD and DAC been playing together. They shouldn't have these misfiresires like they have Ocho. They have they have midspires like guys that ain't never played together. You know what I think that's due to that also.

Every year, yeah, yeah, missing training every year. Those repetitions that you need in training camp, mini camp. OTAs all that helps All that helps in building that chemistry because it resets itself after every year. It ain't, oh, I'm not gonna go to training, I'm not at training camp, I'm not at OTAs, or I'm not at Minicamp, but then come in season, you think everything is just gonna be

right like that, like that. They don't do it like that. No, but that's your opportunity to work on stuff though, Ocho, it's just like, you don't like that. No, but that's your opportunity to work on stuff though, Ocho. It's just like, you don't like, man, you know what? I had my best year and I don't work anymore. You work hard to have a better year. So you get back to try to even build even a better report.

Each year, each year you want to expand. Hey, hey, we good at this. Let's see if we can get a little better at that. Okay, we got good at this and that. Let's see if we can get good at something else. That's how you build. That's how you get better. And so now everything back shoulder fade, end cut, speed out, all that stuff. But, you know, it's like I said, I don't watch film. I used to watch film when I first started it up and uh, and box

Yeah, I used to watch tape because I wanted to see at long But I just I had to stop because in my head I'm too critical. Oh Joe I'm like bro. What what the hell is this that lazy ass route? Right, you can't bro you rounded the route off. That's why the DB came to knock it down And then you you put the plane go he knew you was breaking out that's why he jetted it so I'm glad I'm glad CD. I hope CD takes it like okay, you played the quarterback. You know, what's expected of us in Dallas Criticism comes along with the job, especially a guy that played like he plays,

like he said, Troy is looking at it from a quarterback. He's looking at it from Dak. Everybody's saying Dak bad, but damn, these guys running these lazy ass rounds. He don't know where they're going to be. Because the round, hey, that ball, I'm going to put here. That quarterback back would hit O Joe with his three or five. Yeah. And I can't be.

I can't be back there jacking the ball off. Is people worried about you? Coming. I got the head off. Yes. Eric Dickinson set the NFL Russian record 21 05 in 1984. That's after he came off his rookie season. He ran for 18-08.

Over the last past 40 seasons, no one has been able to top that mark, but something could change. Heading into week eight, Derrick Henry's on pace to break the record. And although plenty of players have gotten off the hard start, the first half of the season before fading,

Lamar thinks Henry might be able to break the record. He says Henry has a good chance to top Ed's number. It's there. I feel like he has a great chance of achieving it. I think he can do it. I believe he can do it through seven weeks. Henry rushed for 873 yards. He's on pace to run for 2120, which would be 15 yards more than ED's record. So Henry doesn't have a huge margin for error going forward. Possibility. What you think?

Of him doing it is really, really good. It's really, really good. Very good. Oh, there's nothing. The Ravens almost seem like a cheat code when you watch him play against everybody they play. Lamar is running the ball. He's throwing the ball.

Derek Henry is running the ball. He's catching balls out the backfield. That's what that's not even part of his repertoire. That's a big, that's a big word for him. But I can't spell it. But I mean, they look really, really good, obviously, like it's damn, they're scary. So if I were to say the two best teams in NFL offensively, I'm going Detroit and I'm going goddamn Ravens. And the Ravens are getting it done on the ground

before they even put the ball in the air. And this is the past, this is the past happy league now. Definitely got to get it. But my question is at what expense does Jerry Hayward break that record? TD could we could have got TD record because there are games in which TD when he ran for 2008 Ocho TD was done at the half. He'd be the rush for 150 and might wouldn't let it play anymore or be rushed for 169 and at the third quarter and like he was done for the fourth quarter.

So he sat out probably equivalent. If you look at what you go back and look at when he didn't play anymore, he probably set out the equivalent of probably three games because Mike saw the bigger picture. Yeah, I get you that record. We don't win the Super Bowl. What the hell? Because at the end of the day, we wanted to be special. You needed to repeat in order for you to be one of these teams that people talk about recurrently. You got to do it

back to back. So do I think he can do it? Yeah, I do. I do because there's going to be a situation where they're going to need him to run the air out of the ball. And he's more than capable of doing that. And I think they have a team that takes pride and kind of like when TD, TD needs like 170 something yards to get that record,

don't joke. Man, I was like, man, hey, I'm like, throw it, throw it, throw it. Bad, please. Hey, them linemen wanted it. They like, hey, they like, oh, we gonna get this, we gonna get that record. We gonna get you that record.

The surprise thing and knowing that in the record, but it's the fact that we're the reason why he was able to get that record. So it means just as much to them as it does to him winning that record. And he gets an extra game. Right. 17 instead of 16.

What was so amazing, OJ went for 2003 and 14. In Buffalo. That boy was toting that rock, boy. Oh, the electric company. That's what they call the offensive line, the electric company. Roller McKenzie, Joe DeLamalier, they were moving people out. They were moving them up out of there.

Actually, Joe Ferguson, if I'm not mistaken, Joe Ferguson was the quarterback. Joe Ferguson was the quarterback, we played, by rookie year, we played Indy. Joe Ferguson was the quarterback in Indy in 1990. And I think OJ broke that record in what, 73? And he was the quarterback. He was the quarter. He was the quarterback for OJ. He was the quarterback in India.

That's dope. Yeah, we know what happened with with but hey, that uh, he was a hell of a running back. Everybody was 32. Everybody the NFL find jets linebacker Quincy Williams, $45,020 for unnecessary roughness use of helmet on the hit to steal his Jalen Warren last week. Quincy tweeted, how am I supposed to make this tackle? My shoulder ain't that far from his head.

He lowered his helmet to make contact with me. I will not get ran over flag football two-hand touch. I agree. I've got to agree because my instincts Ocho when I can't go down and I know I'm coming I'm going to play. I mean that's football in general. I'm not sure I don't know what they expect players to do especially as fast as they're moving on that field. They're trying to change the game and the way players, um, play on instinct and you react in, in, in, in real time, what's going to happen is if you try to change up some of the things you do to protect yourself

while making a tackle, somebody is going to get hurt. You can, yeah, exactly. Cause you can't hesitate. I can't hesitate as a tackler. I can't hesitate as a receiver because my instinct, I know that hit coming. I'm going to brace every time. So I'm going to bring my head into the strike zone because I'm aiming, he's aiming like, okay, I've been a white. He's aiming for this.

I'm going to do the people. I'm not sure who the people are in charge. I'm not sure if the competition committee has anything to do with this. If you watch film, if you know the game of football, if you're a football guy and have been around it for a very long time, you understand the difficulty and you find in a player when there's only one only one way to make that tackle. It's all to do with there's nothing else. There is no alternative. There is no alternative outside of you just stay high and he run right through you and run your own. No, exactly. Exactly. But you know, a lot of times guys get hit for hitting receivers, somebody he defenceless.

No, that mofo got on him and shoulder pass. He ain't defenseless. What he had to do was doing out here. And when you go to catch a pass and you know, contact's coming, you brace for it. So you drop your head down into the strike zone. He might be trying to hit you in your waist, but you gonna brace for that lick. You ain't gonna like, okay, he gonna hit me in my waist.

No, he ain't gonna get sawed in half. You wanna try to absorb that blow as much as you possibly can. It's just physics. It's just, it is what it is. And I get it. It's the quarterback fault. You just, it is what it is. I, and I get it. Right. It's the quarterback phone.

You threw that F to our pass. Hell, I'll be wanting to throw it back to him sometime. No, you take it. Let's switch positions. I'm gonna go out there, I'm gonna throw you one of these. You catch it, you tell me how you should have called it. But I agree with you, Quincy, bro. I, hey, I don't know how you put a dollar fine but

that's a lot where hey this is hold on the guy right it Oh Joe this running back so that every total not in particular because the running back came I'm like, who runs through that whole chest? Like you ED, the ED ran through the whole, like that. Yeah, but I'm saying, but for the most part, Ocho, when you see contact coming, you prepare your place for it. You don't, you gonna get hurt. Russell had one glaring omission on his list of great coaches he's played for. When talking to Yahoo Sports

about getting his mojo back this season, Russ spoke highly of his time in Pittsburgh and his career in Seattle, but he left off talking positively about Broncos and played under Peyton Manning. I'm in a good place here. Excuse me, Sean. Who does it? Manny Broncos and play it under pay Sean paid.

The shop paid. I'm in a good place here inton. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Under Sean Payton. I'm in a good place here in Pittsburgh. I'm excited and I'm happy where my feet are. Just focus where you are right now. I look at it as a tremendous honor and I don't look at it as a bad thing. I get to play for Pete Carroll. I get to play for Mike Tomlin, two all-time greats.

What are you supposed to say? The man benched him. The man put all the blame, everything that transpired his first year in Denver, he placed it at the feet of Russ. What Russ was saying? You never chastise a player in front of your team, especially your quarterback. You don't do it on the sideline in the middle of a game,

hoping to get a reaction out of him. You know he wasn't gonna push Sean Payton on that list. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I mean, I don't, I mean, at some point in time, I understand Russell's a God fearing man, but a human also. See, sometimes people take the human element out of it.

Oh, just be the bigger person. Well, damn, if I gotta always keep being the bigger person, Ocho, I'm hanging around too many small people. Because goddamn, I can't always be the bigger man. So y'all, oh, let everybody just say whatever they want. Oh, you know, Shana, it's just words. So just let everybody just say whatever they want. Oh, you know, Shannon, it's just words. So just let everybody just say whatever.

Yeah. Treat you however. Nah, man. I ain't got no problem. I ain't got no problem with Russ. I don't have a problem with Russ didn't say. He didn't say anything. I don't have a problem with what he didn't say. Yeah, he say anything. I don't have a problem with what he didn't say

I mean, I've been fortunate. Oh Joe. I've been for the most part. I've had Got along with all my head coach. I never had a problem with any head coach, but I wasn't a quarterback So I have a different level of expectation. I really have no problem with no position coach I ain't really have no problem with no position coach. I'm big on respect though, Joe. I'm big on that. Especially when there's an interaction and there has to be an interaction between us. Especially on an ongoing basis because of that, what, you don't say it to me and I won't say it to you.

That's kind of hard when you the position coach or you the officer coordinator or you're in a position where we're gonna have to coexist. That's kind of hard. You know what I'm saying? You know, you build a relationship. They get somebody to one party get mad. Don't say it's to me.

Whoa. So how you expect that to work? You're in the kitchen, I'm in the kitchen. You're in the bathroom, I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom.

I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. I'm in the bathroom. Hey, now I want to look at you now on purpose. What you looking at you. That's funny. No, but I got no problem with rough didn't say, Hey man treated like stir fry.

So hell nah, I ain't got nothing good to say. I got nothing to see. I ain't say, hey, man treated like stir fry. So hell nah, I ain't got nothing good to say. I ain't got nothing, see, I ain't say nothing bad, but you can deduce by it in saying that, me not saying anything, you can deduce what I really think. And my mama said, if I ain't got nothing to say, good to say about somebody don't say nothing at all. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker.

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It's just like that in the real world. If you get somebody that's younger, okay, somebody's been there 10, 15 years, you get somebody that's younger, that's been there 10-15 years you get somebody that's younger that's on a cheaper salary that can do the job just as well if not better we're just starting to see it and get the same production there's really no loyalty you talk about loyalty and sports and a whole lot of loyalty and jobs either yeah it never has been never has been that's the way this is this is is a dirty business. It always has been a dirty business, but for some reason, fans are always fooled into believing that it's a fair game for the players. And the first thing they bring up is,

well, the players make millions of dollars, but they always ignore the business side of things. Again, I'll state it again. Cooper Cup didn't have a great game tonight, but Puka Nakua did. He picked up where he left off. Matthew Stafford, if I'm not mistaken, coming into this game, he only had three touchdown passes in the past, whatever weeks it might've been.

And tonight with a healthy Cooper cup and a healthy Puka Nakua has four tonight. The deep, the offense looked completely different. So with, with, with Cooperup being on the trade block, with them going from, what, the two and five, and that what, two and four to now three and four? If I'm not mistaken, with that being their record now, I think that's off. Cause now you have to think last year,

they went on an eight game stretch of winning seven of the last eight. So who's to say that they can't do that now now that everybody is back healthy So I think and they obviously last year they made the playoffs and finishing 10 and 10 and 7 if I'm not mistaken And made the playoffs so they might they might can go on to run now and do the same thing Especially from an offense standpoint as good as their plan The question is if somebody willing to give me the high draft pick that I seek for Cooper Cup, then I do the deal.

Because let me ask you- Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay absolutely will. They have nothing. They have nothing. They don't. Let me clear this. Chris Godwin is out, Mike Evans is out. It's always next man up.

But the next man up is not going to give you the production that your Mike Evans, your Chris Godden will would having a cup to come in in the offense that I'm sure he's familiar with because much doesn't change from team to team outside of the language and the plays that are called that that's pretty that's pretty much it. And I think this guy think that guy was with SeanVeigh. So that might be the same offense. Bingo. And so they might pretty much use the same language. And the thing is, Ocho, when they say next man up,

you might be talking about one man. You don't really talk about two. You don't hope you got, well, I got another guy that plays behind Chris Garwood that could be the next man. I got a guy that plays behind Mike Evans that could be the next man. Most teams don't have two guys that are gonna be the next man. I got a guy that plays behind Mike Evans, that could be the next man. Most teams don't have two guys that are gonna be the next man.

You might have one, you might find have a diamond in the rough where somebody goes out and the guy can come in and give you very similar production. But the likelihood of you having two, three guys, like we see some of these teams, and that's why Kansas City made the deal. I mean, you're out Rashid Rice, you're without Hollywood Brown,

and you get, you know, Pacheco, not Kareem Hunt is coming in and did an unbelievable job. But the likelihood of you having multiple guys that can be next man up and give you kind of production that the guys that you were counting on to give you that production is not very likely. So my question, the thing that I have for the Rams is that what are the likelihood, Ocho?

Let's just say for the sake of argument, if we were to keep Cooper Cup, is what's our chance? Can we win it all? Because once you've won it all, the only question is, can you win it all again? You know what? I say it all the time.

And for those of you that are in the chat, football doesn't start. Football season doesn't start. Football season doesn't start. Meaningful football. Let me add that to it. Meaningful football doesn't start until after Thanksgiving. Until after Thanksgiving. And with them being three and four now, to me, how the Rams organization and Sean McVey are looking on the inside, hell, if we went on a run and won seven of our last eight last year, it made the playoffs at 10 and seven.

Who to say we can't do it now? And go on a run and go on a tear. You know the thing, you know what I'm saying? I think it's possible. And because the 49ers are not what they were, you see Seattle, you're right there with them. You see the Cardinals, you're right there with them. And so maybe that changes your outlook also.

Now, if you were like where the 49ers were, what they were six and one, maybe 71 at this point last year, you're like, ah, no, we're not catching them. And so now, because there's a chance you can win the division, there's a chance you will get a home, if you win the division, obviously you get a home game.

So maybe that changes the thought process. But normally, when somebody's on the trade block they don't pull them off especially if I can get what I what I want to get Kansas City walked away because they wanted a long they wanted a high draft pick and they wanted to ramp to put some of that salary bill right like nah nah let we go hold on it hey we, we still got what? 12 days, November the 5th, which is election Tuesday. So we're gonna hold, we're gonna hold on and we'll see what, we'll see what shakes out. Maybe, I hate saying this, but you know what, Ocho?

Maybe somebody else that think they got a good chance to make the playoffs or make a deep run, a receiver gets Nick. Add him to their roster. Yeah, and so. Yeah, I mean, I mean, just, just looking at it, the only thing that makes sense to me, obviously, Tampa Bay, who has a winning record and probably wants to still continue to give Baker

an outlet, somewhat of a security blanket, and someone he can actually get the ball to. I mean, you just have to do something like that. I'm sure Baker has spoke to management and spoke to the people upstairs. Obviously, the head coach in the office of the coordinator about getting another target in there so that often can still have some type of consistency and rhythm with a receiver that he can count on consistently down in and down out.

Listen, it might happen, but again, if you take Cooper Cup out of that offense who who was double tonight I think then Pugunakua now gets that attention but Sean McBabe's offense is so creative and so is so creative and being able to to find ways to get Pugunakua open um I think they would be fine if they were to trade Koopa Cup. Oh Cho, life at the Cowboys practice facility is undergoing a lot of scrutiny this week. Big old profile on Jerry Jones and life at the Cowboys facility in general dropped on ESPN. The article focuses on how the Cowboys fans

are allowed to tour the team facility with a level of access that doesn't exist anywhere in football. These tours come at the expense of the players and happiness and comfort. Several former Cowboys told ESPN that the tourists, one of Jerry's, one of the biggest distractions of working in Jerry's world and contradictory

to the Jones stated goals of ending the 29 year Super Bowl drought. The article of course comes with more than a couple of tone deaf Jerry Coates quotes, it's gold when those players go through our complex out there see the fans. I ain't never seen nobody at work got excited because normally it happens on your day off. It doesn't normally they don't normally have tours during the week Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Normally Ocho normally I don't know how it is,

I can only speak two places. I've been in Denver, I've been in Baltimore. Normally it's Tuesday, or they'll come as we're starting to trick a lot of there on a Saturday. But normally not when it's a normal work day. You're not having that. Jerry says, you know, the fan, the player, they love that, they loves it.

I've never heard any complaint. Really, Jerry? Hey, boss, let me tell you, I got a problem with you. I don't like the way you do, but come on, Jerry. But again, you know, Jerry is the greatest salesman of all time. I've never heard any complaints about the tours from staff. I've never heard any complaint of the tours from staff. I've never heard any complaint of the tours

from staff members or players, not one time, but the most important thing is it wouldn't make any... Thank you. Think about what he said. He said he's never heard a complaint about the tours from staff members or a player, not one time, but the most important thing is it wouldn't make a difference anyway, period period because overall they're swimming against the stream

If you search the article the word zoo, it comes up three separate times These tours apparently generate a close to ten million dollars annually, which is why I keep saying Why does Jerry care if he wins a Super Bowl when he's gonna generate 300 to 400 to 500? Regardless every year Why does he care? Every year Hell is getting 300 million just from the TV deal now you see this is separate from the TV deal He has a deal with local radio station. He has a deal with local radio TV station AT&T has the naming rights. That's probably 20 million a year.

All the other rights, the stuff that you see up in the stadium. He has his own individual merchandise deal. So he prints his own T-shirts. Somebody makes a great catch. Somebody makes a great run. Zeke jumping over somebody, Zeke eating. Jerry prints those shirts, boom.

They out just like that. So what's the incentive to win? Oh, Joe, if you can make, let's just say for the sake of argument, you and I kinda cut different, I gotta go to work. But most people, you say, you know what? Whatever your salary is, we're gonna double it and triple it and you ain't got to go to work.

I gotta do something. But a lot of people say, hold on, you gonna pay me to do nothing? See, Jerry don't make money. See, it doesn't bother Jerry if he doesn't win. He gave y'all that, see, got to keep the fans. Now I can't tell the fans how I really feel. It's like he said, even if the players complain, even if staff members complain,

it's not gonna make a difference. So that's the problem. Jerry, nobody gonna tell you the truth. I heard Dak say, nah, it don't bother me. Jack, that's not, you know, he, you know, he can't say what he wants to say. Stop it. Got to be exactly. I get it. No choice. Especially him. If you there, you got to be PC. That's why a lot of these guys,

excuse me, they're no longer there. It's an issue. Well, I ain't trying. I ain't trying. I ain't trying to say I'm dead at work. It's not a zoo. It's an issue. Bro, I ain't trying to see, I'm there to work. It's not a zoo. It's not an amusement park. Jerry's World is an amusement park. Oh, it is for them. It is for him. But normally that's a place of work. We're going to work. Let's hold on. How many times do you hear players say,

let's keep the main thing, the main thing. But the main thing, the main thing to them is these tours and the money that it generates. Because I saw it had a package and we played $30, you can play $50 or $70 or $90. It's just all the time. So you mean to tell me you couldn't do this on a Saturday, you can't do this on a Monday,

you gotta do this on a work day, because yeah, they're like, oh, I get a chance to see, I got a chance to see, I saw the back of Dax head, or I saw this guy. Because he's doing it when the players are actually there, then you can ask, your asking price could be a little bit more, because now you have access to be able to have visual contact,

or maybe even speak to the players. So it's different. So basically, Jerry's World Jerry's world is no different than Jurassic Park when they had the tour, got their movie. Yes. Same concept. The volume.

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