Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Aikman rips Cowboys, Jerry Jones Meltdown, Kawhi out indefinitely

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson breakdown Troy Aikman’s comments ripping Dallas Cowboys WR CeeDee Lamb and the rest of the Cowboys receivers for a disappointing start to the season. Later, Unc and Ocho are in disbelief over Jerry Jones meltdown in an interview with a Dallas radio host, Kawhi Leonard out indefinitely for the Clippers and much more!03:18 - Troy Aikman disappointed in Cowboys season12:58 - Jerry Jones22:00 - Kirby Joseph on game plan for Cowboys27:27 - Justin Fields demotion for Russ Wilson31:17 - Kawhi Sidelined for start of season37:34 - LeBron preseason over41:14 - Q and Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I've always thought that beyond this year, I think CD's got to improve in his route running. And as a quarterback, if you're not certain where the guys are going to be consistently, it's hard to play that position. I see guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage. Sometimes they run. Usually if they do, it's because they're anticipating they're going to get the football on that position. I see guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage. Sometimes they run. If they do, it's because they're anticipating they're going to get the football on that play. But if they're not, they don't. And it's all tied together. So I'm not impressed with that part of the game. Troy also talked about CD missing many count. I'm an old school guy. I just believe practice matters. So

do I. I believe that having the team together matters. So do I. So if I knew I was going to be signing him anyway, I would have had to sign so he'd be working out with my quarterback and doing things that they should be doing. Ocho. You see, this is what I like, Ocho. I like when Troy, see, I like when white quarterbacks say that, because they don't get labored as haters or jealous. Right? See when you and I see that We were if I said the exact same thing which I think oh you're a hater you jealous you bringing the black man Now what you're gonna say by Troy? I'm listening

Jump in the comments. What does it matter? You're gonna say what you're gonna say to me. He jealous. He a hater He envious cuz that's what I'll do to when black. We try to offer critique for what we see. Haven't played the game. Y'all kill us. Y'all beat us up. Now, what are you going to say about Troy? Boy, don't you? Yeah. But CD was never.

Oh, Joe, I never looked at CD as a route runner. CD is a guy that's tremendous run after the catch. Right. He's not a route runner. He's not technically sound like Jetta. He's not technically sound like Jenna He's not technically sound like Devante. He's not a rock runner. He's not like Tory Holt. He's not like Makena McCartney He's not like Jimmy Smith. He's not like you Ocho. That's not what he is. Yeah, and that's okay But what I do agree with Troy is that bro? Even when you not get the ball,

you gotta bust your butt off the ball. You got to come off. Yeah. But yeah, I don't like the fact him singling out CD, him singling out that. I mean, I hear a lot of CDs, there's CD that, CD, CD. But hell, the goddamn defense is atrocious. The defense ain't much better. The defense is atrocious. I feel much better. The defense is atrocious and then everything is magnified now.

Everything is magnified now because you're losing. So now when you're losing everything is magnified. So now they're nitpicking every little goddamn thing. But you know that going in. Oh Joe what's going to happen? You start to lose. They say you lose because you sat on your helmet. You start to lose because the locker room dirty. All type of stuff. I told them, Jerry talk about when we don't need him at practice. Yes you do. Yes you do. You see I said you see I dumbed that sound. Now you know you're gonna sign it or we gonna get it. We knew we'd go sign it. Why would you? What do you mean he doesn't get anything at practice? Do you see the connection or the non connection that he and Dak has had for the first six games? The Wi-Fi is off a little bit.

The Wi-Fi is off a little bit. You get that you no matter what y'all did the previous year, you have to get in the lab, you got to get in the lab and rebuild that chemistry all up again. You got to unplug in the lab and rebuild that chemistry all up again. You got to unplug your rattle. Plug it back in and restart. Yeah, every season you got to do it and you can't do it in the off season when you just by yourself. No, you need to run with the environment. What people put in and tug it and pushing on you, you that's when you that's when you get it done.

That's why, okay. And if you knew you was gonna sign him, why wait, why play the game? You did the same thing with goddamn Zeke. You did the same thing with Zeke. Are you serious about winning, that you need all your players together? You need them all together.

Winning counts and winning matters. Mini camp, training camp camp all season workouts. Come on man. But, but here's the thing though. Um, Oh Joe is that we know Troy Troy got Mike's ass. Yeah. He expected he demanded excellent for Mike. Right.

So this is not, but I just believe you got the whole guys accountable. It is an absolute must. Yes, sir. Now, I'm not telling you what somebody told you, told me to say. I'm telling you, having been in situation, the standard is the standard. And we don't change that standard because of who you are. We play to the standard and whatever and whatever happens after that, we live with it. Mm hmm. But we're not going to come in.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. When we hit that field. Yeah. We had an expectation. Yes, sir. I don't know how everybody else did it, but when we hit that field in Denver. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, y'all was aware of oil machine, but.

Y'all was aware of oil machine. There was an expectation that we had. Right. We played to a standard. We know what was expect. We knew what was expected of us. From each and individual each and every one of us. John had to play to. We had a standard here.

But John needed to play to his standard. Right. 84 need to play to his standard. So did 30. So did 87 and 80. Everybody played to the standard. And then whatever happens after that, we live with it. Right. But it was people think you get good in the games. You win the games Monday through Friday. Monday. Yeah. Yeah. Everything is tied together. Anybody that tells you that is not don't play the game

and they've never played the game. That's when you win the game. It's what you do in the meetings. How attentive are you in practice? Yeah, I know practice. Yeah, I need you need it. I just I just don't get these guys. I just I just don't I just don't get I just don't get them.

And listen, we talk about we talk about Troy, talk about CD, talk about that. And, um, have you seen the goddamn schedule for the Cowboys? The next three games? Hell, the next five in a row? Yeah, absolutely. Boy, it can, it can get, it can get ugly. It can get real ugly. I'm not sure what the, I'm not sure when the Marcus Lawrence comes back.

I'm not sure how long he's out. I'm not sure how long Michael Parsons is out, but it can get real ugly. I'm not sure when the Marcus Lawrence comes back. I'm not sure how long he's out. I'm not sure how long Michael Parsons is out, but it can get ugly real fast. Yes. For a team that's been 12 and five the past three seasons? Well, Michael's missed what? Michael's missed a game. He's missed a game.

So they own a bye week. So three weeks, it all depends on how bad how ankle sprain is. Right. For him to come back, I don't know D-Law's injury. I don't know his injury, so I don't want to speak to like he's going to be out another week or he's going to come back. So I really don't know. But I know Michael has a high ankle sprain.

And I think by the time by the time the bides over, it'll be three weeks. So is it a four to six weeks? Is it, you know, do they, if I'm him, are you going to try to now look, you're there struggling. Yeah. You try to get your best players back as soon as possible. Yeah. But just know. My numbers dip, you know, I came back and I wasn't really healthy, right? Well, they can't they won't be able to use that against him, though.

I mean, they can, but I doubt they would. He's a type of one of those things. No. Yeah. He's one of them players you really can't play with like that. You can't you can't play with him like that. Shit, I could have had him back. I could have had Michael Parsons back right after about two days after he sprained his ankle, the high ankle sprain.

With my remedy. But don't nobody listen to me. Hell, I could have healed Kawhi Leonard. You know, he wouldn't miss no damn time. I got some boys need. No, no, no. I got some for him. No, oh, Joe, you ain't got no for Kawhi. I'm telling you, he bone on bone, Joe, I got some for him. No, oh, Joe, you ain't got enough of a guy. I'm going to tell you he bone on bone, oh, Joe.

Huh? He bone on bone. I know how to listen. I know how to put a little lieutenant up in there. If you could oil it up a little bit, if you could. There'd be a lot of career. Brandon Roy would want to see what I want to see you like 10 years ago. I tell you no lie when that thing like this old Joe. He might get he might have a knee replacement before the time

before the time he 40. Hey, I had that thing looking like W put a little WD 40 in there and be like he brand new. He wouldn't know what he'd oh, he didn't finish the season last year. He's starting to see the heat out indefinitely He hadn't played as he hadn't played a full season and a long he got hurt What was that after the only time he put that was half a season because remember in the bubble, right? Right. Remember they went on a three four five month hiatus

Mm-hmm, and then he fit but after that Oh Joe he got hurt in the playoffs and he hadn't been yet. And even when even on on on loan management, you're still not able to play, oh, Joe. Mm hmm. Huh? We go get that. We got to get back to Jerry while attending the NFL meetings in Atlanta. Jerry explained to the athletic Diana Rossini why he reacted the way he did on one of five point three. Oh. I don't know.

I don't know that I would go as far as calling it the volume connotation of yelling. OK, but the facts are if I'm going to be grilled by Trump, by the tribunal, I don't need to be by the guys that I'm paying. Oh, so he came home. If you pay somebody a salary, can you fire them, Ocho? Yes, sir. So let me repeat that, because a lot of times people like, well, Jack, but the facts are that if I'm going to be grilled by the tribunal,

I don't need it to be by guys that I'm paying. I can take it from the fans. I can take it from other people. I take a lot of pride in how fair and how much I try to work with the media. We're brothers and sisters, but I was a little frustrated there that day. Little, okay.

We got in there as of accounting or decision made in the office. Okay, that might as well be going back to decision I made in 2010. My point is that that's from my perspective. There's no question. I'm sure that they would have liked have me grill like fans are thinking. What are you going to do about this?

And what are you going to do about that? I get it. I get all of that. And I really go. I was really I and really will go along with it. No, you wouldn't. Jerry went on to explain how his frustration stem from the individual asking the questions, not necessarily the topic itself. The wrong ones were doing the questioning.

Now those had been real fan sitting there. If they've been people that I, that I knew they would have been talking about football people, I might have a different answer. Hey, listen, there's a good chance that guy might not be working there. I, I, if I was a dude, I would have a different answer. Hey, listen. There's a good chance that guy might not be working there. I, if I was a dude, I would have left. I would have left. Okay, you need that job, man. Huh?

That man need that job. And that man can get another radio job somewhere in Dallas. Trust me, he can. So, let me ask you a question. So you think you could walk out on a job, that Jerry Jones, and you gonna go get another job. Now, I want you to, before you answer that, I want you to think long and hard.

Now. I hear what you're talking about. I hear what you're talking about. I think just based on circumstance and other radio stations know what happened. Man, they're high that boy. Jerry wants some fucking yes men, cause he paying them.

That's all it is. He wants some, he want't. I want. Yes. If I'm paying you, make sure you don't ask me the tough questions and make sure you're on my side at all times. Oh, yes, man. I would like it's like dudes with an entourage. Yeah, you know, the do you know, the golden goose who making the money? You never want to tell him, you know, that ain't a idea, boy. You know what? You shouldn't be doing that.

You know what you was drinking? Give me your keys. Let me drive. But you don't want to say none because you don't want to get your check cut off. You don't want to get cut off. Oh, man. Jerry Dallas. Yeah. In Dallas. Tell him to hire me. In Dallas, if Jerry Jones goes to any anything

It says don't hire him that guy's not getting hired. Okay, I see what you're saying The Cowboys the Cowboys are Dallas Ocho the man tried to get Roger Goodale. Yeah Roger Goodale. Yeah. What the hell you think he gonna do to a guy making a hundred to between a hundred thousand and four hundred thousand dollars? Yeah I got you. I got you. That's what Power, Ocho. Yeah Power. What? Listen, it reveals who a person truly is. It reveals who a person truly is. You got that kind of money. You're gonna flex your power. You're gonna flex of money. You gonna flex your power. You gonna flex your muscles. You wanna be attached.

You wanna be attached to the Cowboys, Ocho. You wanna be attached. You wanna be the flagship station. I hate you. You wanna be able to talk to Jerry. At what cost? At what cost? At what cost? You can't even look yourself in the goddamn mirror and really be yourself

You really can't ask the question You need to ask you can't ask the questions that the people that's listening to the radio station Want you to ask because you got to pay in a piece to the man Pay you the money right? Yeah, yeah, got me. Got me fucked up. Tell him I had me. I asked him the questions. No, you won't. Cause we just not starting to get you to do the right thing

by back cap. I know you effing with Jerry. Yeah, I'm yeah. I'm asking. I asked him. No, you're not. There, see, you have to be careful. That's why I say, let me have a bit. You gotta be careful. And if we I say, let me have a bit. You got to be careful.

NFL run everything, bro. Yeah. Oh, listen, I got the main man. I got the main man on speed there. I'm good. Just between you and I, the most powerful man in the NFL, he lives in Dallas. I'm just going to throw that out there for you, okay?

Okay. I don't like the way he's trying to scare me because he don't want me to- I ain't trying to scare you. But you know I will keep it factual with you. Yeah. That's it. Yeah.

Steven Jones, so I had to make sure he got something to say this week. When asked if he sees any significant coaching or personal changes during the bye week, he said no I don't we got the right kind of guys on the right on the coaching staff And I think we have the right kind of players. I feel like we got the right group here I don't necessarily know that raising hell is the answer here

So I know changes right they know changes yeah Okay, shoot out shit what changes they gonna make right now? Anyway, ain't really where you gonna go. I mean, if you're going to make changes, there has to be a direction in which you're going to go and when you make the change, what coach you're going to go get, what players can you go get? No, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think Jerry would make a coaching change in season, right,

because Zim is on the staff. Yeah, Zim defense getting trials. So how do you promote him? Ryan Schottenheimer has never been a head coach. His office is not like they're lighting it up. So if I were to. Remove Mike McCarthy from his duties, where am I going with this, Ocha? Right, right.

I got you. I got you. I got you. So but, you know, look, that's what power does. I mean, power has you moving and thinking. Oh, you asked me that question. Oh, get him up off of there. He go talk about it with the guy. The guy that's you made the question before.

Yes, he was upset because he get the doors. he getting a day. They breaking it off up in it They breaking it up up in the car Break it up up in it Do it. Oh Joe is one thing if you know you lose about field goal here something. Oh, yo They can't blown out of the building. Yeah, they getting trounced. Their building. They getting trounced.

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Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Kirby Joseph went on the Alba Ronson Brown podcast and talked about the Lions defensive scheme to play the game plan when they won 47-9 over Cowboys. The game plan was really take CD Lamb away. We know he's their playmaker. Once we took him out the game, we really wasn't worried about anyone else. Told you that.

I ain't worried about nobody else. Told you that. I worry about nobody else. Nobody else can beat me. There's nobody else on the Cowboys roster running back, wire receiver or tight end other than CD that can beat me. Right. Well, that's the one I'm going to double his ass as much as possible. Because guess what I'm going to do? What I'm going to try to do, Ocho, is I'm going to try to limit his catches early because I'm going to get in his head.

Yeah. And then he will get frustrated. And then when that comes to him, like he did earlier, he will drop it. Now I got I got worried about it no more. I ain't worried. I'm not definitely not worried about any of the mothers receivers or running backs. I ain't worried about none of them. Oh, hey, what about what about the hop to the Cowboys?

You know, like that. Oh, hey, what about what about the hop to the Cowboys? You don't like that? No, this man would not. Oh, Joe. I'm trying to think when was the last time the last time I think the Cowboys made an emcees and trade, they saw they traded for the singing cowboy, Roy Williams. They gave up two number ones.

That's what kind of scared Jerry away from doing trades and free agency. Because remember they gave up two number ones for Joey Galloway? They gave up two number ones for Roy Williams and it didn't work out for him. So it kind of scared Jerry away. From doing it. Okay, okay. I got you. I mean he had success early. He traded for Charles Haley. He traded for Prime and it worked out. But lately his trades haven't been very good. Now I think Amari Cooper was, they got what they had, what they paid. I mean, I think Amari was a good trade for him. But that's not how Jerry operates.

Well. I like, look, I like the harm to the chiefs. Yeah, I like that one too. That was my first option. But listen to what dude said on on the podcast. I mean, well, hell, that's a blatant. I'm not saying it disrespectful. It just the landscape of the Cowboys offense. There is no other viable threat that poses a threat outside of CD

Lamb. And we're going into a game saying, hell, we stop 88. We got to worry about nobody else because there is no run game. Come on, man. What about the other players? They my fault. It is what it is. I'm just telling what I'm telling what our game plan was. Yeah, we went into the game saying we're going to take CD away because we don't believe the other receivers can beat us, right? So I mean there's been deep guys. Okay, we're gonna slide a protection, right? We don't believe they have another player on the defensive side of football that can generate a pass for us. We're going to stop

X right. That's it. Okay, and if somebody else can be consistently beat one on ones, okay, we got to live with that. Oh, yeah Right, but I tell you what your best player is not gonna beat us, right? Well, I hope I hope the Cowboys offensive players, especially at the receiver position. I hope they heard that Hope they heard that Oh Joe. Yes sir. That's just like somebody a girl said you short. I heard it. Don't mean I'm a girl to be six foot five. Just got it heard. Don't mean they all of a sudden they gonna be good. You are what you are. Oh Joe. That's bullies and boy material. That might be the motivating factor to change a season around the two and three step up. Give them your opinion so they can write it down.

Hell take a picture of it. So in other words, defense will say y'all suck outside of CD. Y'all suck. That's what they say. Hey, they know what they need to do. You got to buy what you got a week. Wait, who, who they, who they think that they got the Eagles, right? No,

Who they think that they got the Eagles, right? No. Who they got the 49ers? Woo! They got the 49ers, the commanders, the Eagles. Oh my God. Oh, they got a gauntlet. The next five games is a gauntlet. Hey, that's nasty.

Oh, they got the Niners, Falcons, Eagles, Texans, and the commanders. Startcons, Texas, Eagles, Texans, and the commanders. Start with the 49ers. Then the Falcons. Boy. I don't know what you want me to tell you, Ocho. Yeah, hey, listen. I mean, I'm just speaking for me.

I'm not sure if they're wired mentally like me, but being able to hear something like that to me would be motivating. Oh, that's what you think? Oh, that's how you feel about us? No. Okay, bet. Ojo, but you look at it from your point of view, but you the starter.

Right. Because if they would like that guess what they would be the feature there's a reason you to be side bro come on bro ain't nobody come to see you Otis look at man play the tambourine and then hit that chorus. Okay, that's what I need you to do You ain't got no acapella. You ain't got no solo part for this Mike That's a good one. That's a good one Justin field potential demotion and favor Russell Wilson comes as a surprise to most everyone except feels

Pittsburgh has given Russell Wilson first team reps as he gears up for the possibility of his first start as a stealer He'll was brutally honest Hold on Feels were brutally honest and is a self-assessment Thursday when speaking to reporters I don't think I play good enough if I'm being real with you If I'm being real with myself, I think I could have played I don't I think if I did play well enough I don't think there would be any sort of who should be playing or who should not.

Coach O? Yeah. What you got? Another PC answer, obviously from the quarterback and you expect him to say some of the things he did say. He said everything a quarterback is supposed to say in this position. He played well.

He started off three and two. Your team is four and two. You played exceptionally well now There's a chance you could have been six and oh, but you're not you're above 500 It's okay, it's okay. I need to be very careful here Ocho. Yeah, but you need to be very very careful here It's too late now. It's too late because I said it I said it from the start Russell Wilson it would be his job to lose. But he got hurt. He had a calf injury. Now he's healthy. So now you put you put the person back

in who was going to be the starter at the beginning of the season regardless and you let him play ball. All I'm gonna say is this. It's his job to lose. It's his job to lose still. I'm gonna say this. Yes sir. He better beat the Jets. He better win against the Jets. Right. That's all I'm gonna say. Hey, the Jets ain't no slaps now.

I know the record don't show what it should show. I also know that those guys that have been playing I know the record don't show what it should show. I also know that those guys that have been playing, that's been on the offense and defense. Fighting for fields, right. Yeah, I know what you mean. I know you're going with it. I know exactly what you want. The question is, and we didn't see enough, but when people say you can't, yes you can.

Mike Shanahan told us, like, look, you can lose your job if you get injured. If you get injured and the guy comes in and he's playing better than you before you got injured, it's his job. Now we didn't see Russ play in the regular season so we don't know what he looks like in meaningful play. But boy Mike Tomlin need to be very careful with this situation. This is a powder keg. Yes sir. It's a powder keg Ocho. Yeah I know what you mean. I'm sure he had that I'm sure he had that talk with Russ. He pulled him aside. Listen it's your job but it's also your

job to lose. I don't know how you go back to Justin Fields. Oh. I don't. Boy at 4 and 2 if things start getting dicey. Boy Mike Tomlin will make a switch now. Ocho I don't know how you go back. You take the man out you said what's his record? He's 4 and 2. He's 4 and 2. Yeah. You take him out you lose three games and you put him back in? Yes sir. The save of that season listen is the reason Mike Tomlin has had a winning season for the past 17 years, he gonna make sure that continues. This is a business. No, just because you're not losing doesn't mean you're winning.

Oh, that was a good one. Hey, hey, hey. Let's leave that low, we gonna move on. No, no, you need to raise that, we gonna move on. Hey, that was smooth, that was real smooth. Kawhi Leonard is expected to be sidelined for an indefinite period of time to start the NBA season as he rehabilitates the inflammation in his right knee.

Kevin O'Connor pointed out, the Western Conference is so stacked, there's a strong chance that now the Clippers missed the play-in, which would give the Thunder a lottery pick, which means the Thunder could end up with Cooper flag. Just saying. Damn.

I w what I don't understand. I need somebody in somebody chat, maybe some basketball, basketball aficionado giving wise injury history. Why would you give him that deal and not Paul George? Oh, that's it. Makes no sense. It makes no sense. Oh, that's a good one.

It makes no sense. You can't convince me. And I remember there were guys I catch. I remember the first night Kenny, this is you. Kenny Smith on the first night that Kenny, this is you. Kenny Smith on the first night that the Lakers played Clippers, he said Kawhi Leonard made LeBron James look unathletic. He was paid based off what he had done previously before getting to the Clippers. Wile Leonard has never been a better player than LeBron James.

Oh, I would say that I'm based on the never I'm speaking on you take a why at his absolute apex. Right. And he's never been better than LeBron. Never. Who said he was Kenny? There was no no no no Kenny. No, I think the thing is is that.

Is that he was just if you just look at one game one game in. From our game, right? Anybody can make it those are professionals Anybody can make anybody look bad. Mm hmm. But if you look at the totality of it. Now. I mean, everybody talk about, do y'all understand? I mean, y'all think about like what LeBron was doing. Kawhi goes to the Toronto Raptors and yet they won the title. I'm not so sure that would have happened if Kevin Durant didn't blow out his Achilles.

We'll never know. That's neither here nor there. But do y'all remember how LeBron ran the East? Ran the East. Yeah. Man, I just don't know. I mean, I don't know. Look, Lawrence Franks is a great general manager I'm sure when you make a deal like this you have to run it up to Steve Barmer Right the wealthiest owner and NBA worth 125 billion. They know where in hell. Well, you were while he worth more than Jerry Man if that man look here if that man had Jerry Jones money, you'd have to commit into an asylum

Well, he that man had Jerry Jones money, you'd have to commit him to an asylum. Well, he sure don't act like Jerry. Very fun, energetic, charismatic. He gets, oh yeah. They name, I mean, I gave them the name the baby dinosaurs, but they used to call it Lebronto. That's what they call Toronto, Lebronto. Because he ran Toronto. Okay. But ain't no way, Ocho.

I'm not doing that. I'm not. Look, I get it. Right. Why is not healthy? I wish it was something he could do for his knee. It's nothing. But the way, with the way technology is the fact that they haven't been able to help and find a solution or something to do, even if it

is bone on bone as advanced advances, we've gotten to this point with medicine and, and, and doctors and treatments and all types of stuff, people going to Germany, you know, all that. I don't understand it. I don't understand it. Well, right now they haven't learned how to grow tendons and ligaments in a Petri dish. Yeah, we know how to get to the God damn moon,

but we can't forget, don't get me started. Well, maybe they need to send his ass to the moon and maybe they get they got some stuff up there that you can come back down here and play what don't y'all mean I mean think about it yes he's getting older yeah you don't get healthy as you get your joints don't get healthier as they get older. Right. Mm hmm. Well, right now they lost that trade. Yeah, because they gave up Shagel just and you look at the roster that the thunder has put together with those draft picks nasty. Now, hey, you think Shakers is better than me at basketball?

Yeah. The Clippers signed Kawhi to a three year, $153 million contract extension in January. When they decided to bet a few months of sustained help would continue when the literally years of evidence suggests otherwise. So he's making 53 million a year. Yeah. Oh Joe, this is a, you have a five year sample size. Right. Of Kauai in

letters and knees failing it. That's not a one month. That's not a six month. That's not a one or two year. You have a five-year sample size And you gave him 51 million and you're trying to lowball Paul George, hmm Damn it's a dirty game. I mean, that makes it seem like it's a fluke. This is not a fluke injury, Ocho. This is not a bump in the road. This is not, I mean, this is what it is. LeBron preseason is finished. The next time he takes the court

will be the regular season opener, October 22nd versus the Timberwolves. Laker coach JJ Reddick said his star was sitting out for rest, or as he put it, DMP. Oh, take it back to the pop books. Meaning the Lakers never quite got a dress rehearsal with the real rotation before the regular season open start. Uh, I'm gonna be at that game on Tuesday. Me and my daughter.

Hold on. Hey, you gotta work. Where the game at? In, uh, at LA. Oh shoot. I'll be there. Man stop. You ain't fit to be nowhere. You got to work on Wednesday. I do. No, I'm gonna catch a problem. I'm gonna go to the game and I'm gonna fly private that night. You ain't

flying them private. Stop. I got some coupons. Nah, trail way of the Greyhound or the Air with your spirit, your airline of choice. That's fine's fine they don't fly pride long as I get the point a to point B you not though not without you know stop it off you have to make you have to make two full layovers for spirit to go from California to New York you got to stop at Dallas you gotta start with Mississippi you got to stop at Atlanta and then you make it on in hey they, they got a flight, they got a flight, they got a red eye, Philly, Philly, I mean from LA to Philly, gotta get me in on time.

I see you, I see you at the Lickit game. I gotta see, I gotta see you, Pops and Roddy. That's gonna be a good one. Yeah, I gotta say I saw that. Cause you know, everybody, Griffey Jr. Senior playing together. Oh, yeah. I probably won't get an opportunity to go see another, uh, Laker game

because of my schedule, but I got to see this one. I mean, he know what he was doing. He said I'm gonna put this thing on Tuesday. I'm gonna give you a chance to go see it, huh? I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again, and we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes.

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We're gonna find out Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to dudes on dudes on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, BB King, Miriam Makeba. I shook up the world. James Brown said, said love. And Makeba said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event.

What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that,

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women's basketball just because of one single game every great player needs a foil and hear them why I'll go down to history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here that much. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.

I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.

This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsoredHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. All right, Ojo, now it's time for Q and A. Q and A. Hey, bro, I feel good tonight, bro.

I got an A. Them mid them midday nap be paying off. Man, I had to catch a flight. I flew to LA. I flew to New York on Tuesday, caught a flight back this morning out to LA tomorrow. Right. Then back to LA again, then black back to New York. Well, listen, I'm not even gonna listen I'm not even gonna I'm not even

gonna save my schedule. Man first of all ain't no way in hell I'll take no red-eye on spirit. Why? What's the problem? I mean I'm not sure if you looked at the rankings but spirit is the number one safest You're not y'all about to go to bankruptcy whoo Donald Trump went in the bankruptcy 50 cent went into bankruptcy. Listen, it's not flying. They didn't they fly no planes. It's a business move. They not really bankrupt. I Ain't doing it. I got you.

I'm not. Donated 500 bucks and he said, who wins rock, paper, scissors between me and Ocho? I do. We'll play right now. Ocho, you ready? Come on. Remember, wait, wait, let me. do we play right now. Oh Joe. You ready? Come on.

Remember, wait, wait, wait. One, two, three, hit. Okay. Well, you know how you do. You go one, two, one, two, three here. See, there you go. See, you see what he doing? He Paul. Okay.

Oh Joe on the count of three. Right. One, two of three. Right. One, two, three. Either you slow or the signal slow. What do y'all slow? Chad, y'all see Ocho? What you talk about?

Listen, listen. Chad, y'all see Ocho? I'm the rock hitter to the champ. What you talking I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. You waited. You waited. You waited until I put mine. Then put up the scissors. I waited for you. Hey, see, you can't never do

nothing. Blackfoot, we can't never have nothing. Why you gotta cheat? Why you gotta cheat, man? Did y'all see me? I did scissors. He came behind me knowing I did scissors and did paper. All right, one more, one more, one more, one more. Nope, nope. Okay. Man, this young man, he can't even cheat right.

All right. How you know the man? You already know the man. So, okay, if he got rock, I'm gonna do paper. If he got scissors, I'ma do rock. This man see me got scissors up there, he's like, give me paper. You cheated.

I cheated. Kemper Nowood Jr. said, Unc, my question is, is when are the Broncos going to retire? You're 84, so no one else can wear it. You know, Kemper, that's a good question. I don't know, you know what? I need to talk to the Walton Pena family.

I think if you went to go to the Hall of Fame, I think you should have your jersey retired. Especially, I did spend 12 or about 14 years there, kept winning two Super Bowls. Hell, I think me, them, Warder. Shit. Me, them, uh, uh, uh, water. Shit. I ain't.

Me, them, water, TD, champ, hell, all of us. They ain't gonna have no jerseys left to wear. Oh, well. You can wear it. You go into the hall of fame, you can get it. Nelson said, who are your top five Broncos all time? Well, you got to start with seven is one. I would go TD, Von Miller,

John, TD, Von, John T.D. Vaughn. Hell, I know he only played four years there, but hell, you can't leave Peyton out. And then. I must say, there's a tie between me and champ Bailey for five. That's a good one. I Would take Peyton out and put champ I Mean it's kind of like I mean look and he played He played for the Broncos bad. I mean he wanted MVP. He went to two Super Bowls

He was a two-time first team all-pro. He broke the record with touchdown passes in the game. I mean, a season, he broke the record with touch, passing yards in the season. So. I mean, Vaughn basically single-handed won a Superbowl. Oh yeah. So, I mean, we got what? They'll be a hundred sacks for the Broncos. Mm hmm. I mean, I think he's the premier defensive player in Bronco history. And, you know, we've had some, you know, we had a tombstone Jackson.

We had Randy Gratishaw. You had Mac. You had Dennis Smith. You had Atwater. We've had some pretty good defensive players, but I think Vaughn is the best one. Your boy go crazy, saying, hey, Alex Highsmith will be back on the other side of what this week against the Jazz.

How do you think it will affect considering how Tyron Smith is playing? What? He better play better than what he been playing. That's for damn sure. And even he bring, I think his name is Hebron. He ain't no slouch. He bringing pressure on the other side.

And you know you got TJ and then you got Cam Hayworth. Boy. Yeah, Ty gonna have to play better. He definitely gonna have his game up on you. News 864, we got us one with Dalton Connect. He was on fire tonight, especially in overtime. Lakers are sick. Oh, NFL Network, damn. They got John One, they got TD Two, they got me three, they got Champ Four, Peyton Five, Rossville Six,

Atwater Seven, Gratishear Eight, Mac Nine, Vaughn Ten. I don't know about that, but hey. at water seven, Gratishev eight, Met nine, Vaughn ten. I don't know about that, but hey. That's a good little list. Look, I put it like this here. I know this, this is what I do know. When I go back, the fans give me love. That's all you could ask for. That's it.

They give me, they show me love. They always have. They knew I played my ass off for him I gave it everything I possibly could you know They know when they left that game 84 played well I was 81 for two years, but 84 everybody knows man He played his ass off for and so that's that's that's really all I care about. I played for my My coaches trust my teammates, respect,

and for the fans appreciation. That was it. That's all I played for respect, trust, and appreciation. And at the end of the day, I think my teammates respected me. I think the coaches trusted me and I know the fans appreciating me, same thing when I went to Baltimore. That's, that's it. All that other stuff that Kate, it was nice to make a Pro Bowl, all Pro.

It was all that stuff is nice, Ocho. I'm not gonna lie, it's nice. But at the end of the day, guys and coaches that are around me every single day, and the fans that pay their hard earned money to see 84 and 82 do what I was brought there to do. Right. That's it for me.

to do what I was brought there to do. Right. That's it for me. Nate Harper said, Uncle Nocho, what's your favorite Super Bowl all time other than the ones you played in? Got my nightcap merch today and I love it. Favorite Super Bowl. My favorite one, on Madden.

Man, you know, the Super Bowls, man, like the last like 10, 15 years, they've been really good. Yeah. You remember the Steelers and the Steelers and the Cardinals? Cardinals. Go down to the white. Really good. The Falcons, even though the Falcons lost 28-3, that was a really good game over time. I thought the game to overtime. That was the first overtime Super Bowl, wasn't it? Yes, the 49ers and our Chiefs, that was- Yes.

What, the, uh, yeah, pass back with the first overtime game. Yeah, yeah, it was a very good Super Bowl. The Steelers and the Cowboys used to have some good Super Bow back in the 70s. I think what was that 70? 74, 75, then 178, 79. I think that's 78 Super Bowl. What was the one 70? What was the one that he played at Tulane Stadium? When they had like, I think they had like 15 Hall of Famers on the field at one time,

which was the most Hall of Famers on the field at one given time. The Steelers? With the Steelers and they played the Cowboys? With like 14? So what was 78? What was the 78 Super Bowl? Wasn't the 78 Super Bowl with the Cowboys and the Steelers? Because 79 was with the Rams and the Steelers. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, you go back and look at that. Look at look at the talent that they had on the field with that one. Randy White and you had you know, you had obviously you had me Joe and male blood and Lambert and Bradshaw. You have one stalwart had Mike Webster, you had Franco Harris. Orange Bowl, that was the one that. Orange Bowl, OK. Super 13. I don't let you say, I don't think we're

going to see that many Hall of Famers on one team again. Uh-uh, not like that. Well, because if you think about it, the Steelers had like nine on one team and they drafted them. That's crazy. Let that sink in. And what was that 70?

Was that 74? They took Swan in the first round. It took Starworth. No, they took. No, they took star. They took Swan in the first. They took Lambert in the second. They took Starworth in the third, and it took Mike Webster in the fourth.

So their first four picks was Hall of Famers. And then if I'm not mistaken, they drafted Donnie Johnny Shell was a free agent. Your draft class got five Hall of Famers in it. That'll never be done again. Unheard of. Which one? John's Buffalo. Oh, yeah yeah, 1990 that was in Tampa.

In Tampa. That's when the wide, that was wide right? Yeah. Thurman Thomas. They let Thurman Thomas run to keep, yeah. Yeah. That's when the oldest Sanders was the MVP. And was it Scott Norwood that missed that field goal?

Yeah. I mean, let's just think of the five, Ocho, your draft class, and you got five Hall of Famers. On the same team. Yes, that's your draft class. No, that's crazy. Not the whole draft class, your draft class. Whole draft class. No, that's crazy. Not the whole draft class, your draft class. Whole draft class.

But Bill Nunn was the, what you call him, was the GM at the time. Right. Bill Nunn Jr. was a Duttleman, Radio Raheem, and to do the right thing, that was his dad that picked those players. OK. Yeah, that was his dad that picked those players. Okay. Yeah, I Used to be a Steelers fan my mom loved the Steelers I took I think I took my third member

I was in third grade. My brother was six. We took our school pitches and Steelers Jersey, Franco Harris You remember the Steelers used to have sleeves the Steelers were the only one that had the sleeve to come down here They had to cut off. They Steelers were the only one that had the sleeve to come down here. They didn't have the cutoff. They had this. They had the half sleeves. Steelers made them hot ass jerseys. Leota Rose, hey Nightcap, Uncle Nojo, I've had a lot of trial and error trying to reach my goals.

Can you guys give me some advice, tips on how to maintain and progress in my fitness journey? Well, they come to fitness, boy, they ain't nothing but discipline now. Finally, time to get up. I don't know your schedule, but ain't nothing but discipline. That's all it comes down to. Discipline and want to, you gotta wanna do it

cause you're gonna have days you don't wanna do it. Hell, it was days I didn't wanna get up for practice, but it's just something I got to do because there was a there was an end goal in mind. Yes. Keep that end goal in mind, but it all comes down to discipline and don't make no excuses. Don't make no excuses. You feel better about yourself when you see the results though. It is.

That was that that's that's what drove. That's what got me. Oh, that's what really got me in hooked on fitness Yeah, when I started working out and I saw the results I saw a hundred and eighty five pounds skinny kid go to 205. Yeah about five months. Yeah And I'm done. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like me But you know, but your boy I was an underarm a mannequin, you know, you go in the digs and you see the mannequins. Yeah. Yeah.

I look like I look like I look like a sculpture to that look like Alexander the Great traded like a Trump tax return. Yeah. Yeah, Ocho. Yeah, hell no. Waze was gone like a Clinton email. Disappeared. Just like that. Like a Clinton email. Low-eater, that's what it is. Your desire to reach that fitness goal has to be greater than your desire not to, or to eat that snack, or to not go workout your desire not to or to eat that snack

or to not go workout or not to do that extra cardio I mean what is it that you're actually trying to accomplish and how bad do you want to accomplish because when we want to do something we do what we want to do we really do it ain't no shortcuts either no no no no no it ain't no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there's not. But you just have to have a single it's one day at a time. It's one it is it is literally one day at a time. One day at a time.

And you know, hey, I mean, honey, rice, my dad,, I get to, I get two cheat meals a week, not, not cheat days. I get meals. Right. So I get out of the meals. I try to eat. He got me eating, try to eat five times a day, but good luck with that. It's all I could do to get four down, damn the five, but I get two cheat meals.

My cheat meals normally consist of two burgers with sweet potato fries. And then like on a Sunday I'll do breakfast. I'll get like a French toast. I get French toast. I get pancakes and egg whites and turkey bacon or chicken sausage. That's it.

Other than that, it's Tupperware. It's broccoli, carrots, chicken, turkey. Broccoli, carrots, chicken, turkey. Broccoli, carrots, chicken, turkey. Turkey. Ocho, you know greatness is boring? Oh yeah. You know it's monotonous? It is. As Tom Brady. Because he did the same thing over and over for 23 years Greatness is boring It's the monotony of it And you do something over and over not until you get it right you do it over and over until you can't get it wrong

That's it. And you know, Hey, even me, I got to do a better job. I got to get back on, you know, it's like, it's just cause I'm, I'm like, I'm traveling, I'm already dying with medallion, right? But there ain't no excuse. There ain't, there is no excuse. None zero. And I ain't no excuse there ain't there is no excuse none zero and I ain't gonna give you one but I'm gonna get my fat ass in shape too I've got I've tired of being this I've tired of being this big yeah big for no reason man everybody's coming man I went to the mid joy with that Olympia, man, man, you need to get on stage. What stage?

My old ass down. I'm cheering. I'm cheering for Samsung. I'm cheering for Andrew Jack. I'm cheering for all the guys. Right? No part of those stage man. Now I'm gonna get this thing off. you. I'm gonna peel up. Watch. So when I come to your wedding, I'm gonna be in that thing. I'm coming in that thing with them white linen pants on.

You gonna be peeled up? I'm telling you, I'm coming in with I ain't got no shirt on, Ocho. Hey now, you gotta have your shirt on now. You can have it unbuttoned, but you gotta have it on. Ocho, let me live. I'm gonna let you live, but you gotta come to the wedding correct now.

You know, security, I don't want security to have to escort you out now. Bad look here. The wedding, hey, do you want the wedding to go off without a hitch? Yeah. Oh my God. Oh.

I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what folks, we're teammates again. And we're gonna welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're gonna highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past,

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The referee, the coach, the expert. My next season is all about fans and what the rise of sports betting is doing to them, to the teams, and even to my family. I'm heading to Las Vegas and New Jersey and beyond to understand America's newest form of legalized gambling. Listen to Against the Rules on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, BB King, Miriam Makeba. I shook up the world.

James Brown said, said love. And Makeba said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important as anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation.

The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment. I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch and I'm exhausted. But turns out the end is near right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question.

This podcast is for people like me who need a little perspective and insight. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out like Ezra Klein, Van Jones, Jen Psaki, Ested Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, even though these days fun and politics seems like an oxymoron. But we'll do that thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee, Roy Wood Jr., and Charlamagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Power to the podcast for the people. So whether you're obsessed with the news or just trying to figure out what's going on, this season of Next Question is for you. Check out our new season of

Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down to history. People are talking about women's basketball

just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.

She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.

This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. All right, I'm gonna have to unbutton all the way down. Only one button is gonna be black. I'm gonna have without only one button. Don't be blind. I'm having them linen.

You know, you know, you don't have a little way. You don't have a little way. And then you know what I'm saying? Don't you? And put that, put that oil over, you know, so that baby glistening, the water be beat up for your boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I Like it Lord have mercy I like it, but I'm fooling with you. Oh Joe. I'm ready Architect nice TV said hey, oh Joe One place a friendly bad fam you Jackson State game this weekend. Bet, bet it. Bet it. What you wanna bet?

Make a lie to yourself. Bet a hundred dollars. Bet a hundred dollars, boy. Send me a DM too. Send me a DM. You got something, you gonna bet it, Ocho? I just bet him a hundred. Oh, okay. Bet him a hundred.

Well, you know, fam for the wack, man. Come on, man. You know, Jackson state ain't got nothing for fam, you man. Stop playing, bro. Jesus loves Kobe said, Uncle, no joke, Ken, you just wish my brother, Brennan Tate a happy birthday. He's a great guy.

And you know, he loved to hear from you guys since he loves ball. Excuse me, Brennan, happy birthday, bro. Wanna wish you a happy birthday. Hope you had a great day. I don't know if it's today or if it's tomorrow, but whatever the case may be, hopefully you have a joyous and a very celebratory birthday.

Enjoy with family, friends, and loved ones, and enjoy your day and many more to come. Thanks for supporting Nightcap. Yes, sir. Hey, Dr. Frank, you're better than said, Congrats on winning best hip hop platinum award from B.E.T. Hip Hop. Oh, you don't see we were the war, you know, we were the B.E.T.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, I think about I'm going to build me a trophy room. I'll be a trophy room. Have to build me a trophy room. You gotta put them all up there. We about to get some more too. After we win these Signal Awards. Yeah, when you finish? Thanks Doc.

Yeah man, I mean it's great. I mean obviously I'm the face and everybody knows Club Shae Shae, but there's so many people from CJ to the graphics people, to the editors, to everybody that does such a great job. Savannah, that that coordinates a lot, man, there's a lot that goes into it. And I'm just thankful that I have I believe that I have the best staff at Shae Shae Media, because everybody that works at Shae Shae Media,

especially that work close to me, they know more than I do. So I let them do their thing. I let Ash at Nightcap. She does her thing. She know I trust her wholeheartedly, but she know if it don't go well, she will have to make that call. CJ is the same thing. I let CJ, whatever, whatever you think we should do, whatever you think we can do

to keep advancing club Sheae Shae, bro, you have my blessing. You don't have to run it by anybody else. You are, hey, if anybody asks you, you've already cleared it with me. Dash, if anybody asks you, you've already cleared it with me. Take off with it.

But I want them to feel empowered. I want them to feel that whatever the the case may be whatever is gonna help Shea Shea medium nightcap club Shae Shae 520 bubble dog We get ready to do a deal. Obviously we get ready to do. Can we take real? We can't say nothing Maybe So, yeah. But I mean, man, just I mean, never in and in 24, the way 24 started off.

I mean, you. Couldn't imagine it. No, you know, because the thing, oh, Joe, they say the only difference between truth and fiction is that fiction has to make sense. This is true. You can't you can't. Some things are beyond explanation. You don't have answers for.

God showed favor. He heard prayers that you didn't even think he was listening to. And when he has something for you, can no one else stop it? And cat coming on. And like I said, I mean him, he's great. Like I said, you know, and I said you know and I talked to him I talked to cat and there was one thing about him he go if he don't pick up the

phone right within 10 minutes if he ain't like on set he gonna call back you need what you need. You need something? Nah, I don't need anything. I'm just, bro, I just, hey, just want to talk. Just, hey, how you doing? I say, what do you need? What can I do for you? Yeah. And his answer is, he's like, I didn't do this to get something in return. That was my, that was God's blessing you through me. I said, bro, let me do something.

Say, nope. He said, because if I were to accept something, that mean I did it for the wrong reason. I was doing it expecting something. Right, right, right. He said, but I told you it was gonna put you in a hole. He said it. I mean, Jordan heard it.

I mean, he said it. He said, this is gonna put you in a hole. He said it. I mean Jordan heard it. I mean he said he said it He said this gonna put you in a whole new dimension. I Mean when people say stuff like boy, hey boy, you go though. You won't be something. You know, you know, you like take a grain of salt Man that man said this is gonna put you in a whole new dimension. I Couldn't even imagine. Right. And, and as we, the pastor used to say in our church, if I had a thousand tongues, I couldn't thank him enough.

Because they did it launch club. Shaysha. It helped catapult a nightcap into a stratosphere. We could have only dreamed of Ocho and And if we had dreamed it we probably would have needed to wake up because he's like man that's a shame But there ain't no way that could happen. Not that good not like that right that fast Yeah, here we are The award the the theolades, the attention,

the what comes along with this is definitely been a blessing. I mean, 24, you know, I get a new deal from ESPN, you get deals from, you were DraftKings and you went, what's the, inside the NFL? Hold on, I got another one too, huh? What you got? I got another one with Apple.

Apple? Yeah, I don't even know if I'm allowed to say it yet, but I didn't jump the gun, but fuck it, oh well. So, I mean, everything that we've got, Nightcap has continued to grow, So I mean everything that we've got nightcap is Continued to grow club shake shake to continue to grow Roll it ESPN growing your role inside the NFL. You got all these gigs all these things. Everything is just happening So ain't number favor, baby. That's it. Hey, ain't no favor and you know, we just

Just give credit to the man above yeah But uh, it's a huge honor to win, uh this bet award. I mean obviously we grew up watching bet Um and to win this award Is a huge honor and so I thank BET and anybody that voted. Thank you. It's greatly greatly appreciated. So what else you got tonight? Who that? You. I think I'm gonna what's your car? No I ain't gonna sleep in. I'm gonna go work out. I'm gonna hit this bed.? I think I'm not going to sleep in. So I'm going to go work out. I'm going to hit this bed.

I hit the gym at 6 a.m. I got to work out. I got to pack and get ready for tomorrow. Catch this flight. Are we staying overnight or are we coming right back? What time? Four o'clock? Four o'clock?

Oh. Yeah, but I thank you guys because look, Ocha and I do what we do. Ash does what she does. The team at Shea Shea Media, the graphics, Jordan does a great job of capturing content, doing what he does. CJ and his staff, they do what they do,

but you guys make it all possible. You guys watch, you guys listen, you guys share, you guys talk about. None of this is possible without you. And I mean, I just, I couldn't even I couldn't even I couldn't imagine this that What well that 16 17 months ago when I left FS one June of 23

so 17 months Somebody would have told me 17 months ago say Shannon. This is kind of where your life is This is where you're gonna be heading and then have this and come on with a lot more projects in the work and you know that's you know a lot of time a lot of things like okay Shannon do you want to you want to take these meetings or do you want to go work out? And I have to take the meetings, Hojo.

Yeah. Because these execs, they want to sit down and look Shannon Sharp in his eye and see how serious he is about doing said projects. Right. And then, you know, Ash and I, or CJ and I I, we gotta go and take these meetings. So, something gotta get left behind is my work, it's my workout. Right. But what's happening is that the fans,

the people that watch us, they can't deny us, Ocho. They can't deny us. No matter what they think about you, no matter what they think about you no matter what they think about us no matter what oh this and that and you know try to manifest dissension between you and I it's undeniable it's undeniable and we're just getting started oh yeah we just get started. Oh Joe scratch the surface yet You know now if you could just stop eating

Be a lot better Stop what nice a nun? I can't you cuz you were mumbling. Stop. Stop being moody. Yeah, that's what I said. Other than that, you know, thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. The Broncos take down the Saints 33-10. They sacked Rattler six times. Bo Nicks was clean. They get 35 rushes, 225 yards, two touchdowns on the ground, both of those by Javante Williams as they roll over the Saints 33-10. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. That's 85, that's from Liberty, he's from Liberty City. He's a bingo ring of fame honoree, a pro bowler,

an all-pro, that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. You can call him Ocho. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. And remember, you matter. Thank you for mattering and thank you for helping us matter. Make sure you go check out Chez Balaportier. Our goal is to be in between 14 and 16 states by the end of the year. If we're currently not

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That's the way that's the game we're gonna follow okay, Georgia, Texas, that's the game we coming on after But it's gonna be some good games this weekend. So thank you for joining us. I'm Unk, he's Ocho. See you Saturday after Georgia. Thanks. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes.

We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age-old question, what kind of dudes are these dudes? We're gonna find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liars Poker. On the latest season of my podcast Against the Rules, I'm exploring

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let's get political. I'm Carrie champion and this is season 4 of naked sports up first I explore the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball and on this new season we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps or wherever you

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