Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Anthony Edwards says they’ve done nothing yet, Caleb Williams tried to avoid being drafted by the Bears!

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & former champion Shawn “Matrix” Marion react to Anthony Edwards says they’ve done nothing yet, a potential trade of Alpren Sengun for Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Caleb Williams tried to avoid being drafted by the bears & much more!01:47 - Antman says the Wolves havent done anything yet05:24 - Rockets in the market to trade Shingun for Giannis09:47 - Caleb Williams29:28 - Colts social team only posting throws of Jones40:12 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We just got here. We haven't done anything yet. Who do you think coming out of the West? Man, listen. Listen, Denver, OKC, OK pulled this out. That OKC and Minnesota series gonna be ridiculous. I think it go seven games. That's gonna be nice.

I think it can go seven. It's gonna be, it's gonna be, so the X factor for that series will be, oh, what's her name? I'm freaking. Jayden Daniels? No, left-handed, left-handed. I just talked, oh, shit, brain. I just talk. Oh, shit. Brain freeze, brain freeze.

Julie, Julie. Oh, Mike Carlin? Julie's Randall. Oh, Julie's Randall. Julie's Randall's going to be the X-Factor in that series, because I'm going to say the two seven-footers will cancel out each other with Nas Reid and Rudy Goldberg. I think Chet and Harden Stein, I think it's I think they can I think they

can counsel each other. You can give you can give Chet a little nod a little bit. I think over a nod just slightly maybe. But I'm putting Chet I'm putting Chet on go bear. I'm letting Hardenstein who's a little bigger body, a little bigger body. I'm going to let him but Chet can't bang with Julius. No, no, but do like tonight to like Yeah, I mean but you put the bomb to afford too much for the other guys. So they ain't gonna be on the guard amount in Peru Yeah, definitely I think the wolves and and and and and uh, okay, you say you know it may go cancel each other out

Yeah, and then we're gonna have to see Jalen Williams, Jay McDaniels, how those guys, how those guys, how do they perform? Conley and Brown, how do they perform? It's gonna be interesting. Well, we already picking that OKC gonna beat them, but I mean Denver, I'm pretty sure that Gordon ain't hurt.

If he hurt now, I mean. Yeah, all bets are on for me too. I agree with that. If he's hurt, all bets are off for me too. I agree with that He's heard all bets off. Yeah, but different top though different could be different can fuck around pull this shit up They pulled they pulled this off It's gonna be tough for somebody beat them too. They can be it's gonna be tough I mean listen, yeah, they got I mean like I said before I think Kurt I think Murray and Joker are two two special special guys and

They do they got closer most teams only most teams in the league now only got one closer And they got yeah, they got two guys that can finish you off. Yep Is that man the next face of the NBA? I mean if he wants it, I think he can be I Mean, I think I mean but I'm interested you said if he wants it if he wants it, but I think I mean, I think, I mean, but. You said something interesting, you said if he wants it. If he wants it, but I think, I mean, right now, usually the face of the NBA is who's always on all the commercials. Who's on all the commercials right now? Jace Tate.

Yeah. So, he's in that spot already. I mean, it is what it is, but you know, Ant-Man, listen, he's a savage, you know? And he got a great personality, and I just love his work ethic and I love this mentality man I do too I think it's uh I love guys who don't who just won he won't he don't he ain't ducking nobody and I love that you

know saying like man whoever's in front of me let's go let's let's go we made the best man win that day well I, I think Ant-Man is in his pair of commercials too. Oh yeah. Yeah. I definitely think those two are in the lion's share of the commercials move going on. Yeah, but, uh, Thetem is in more of the NBA commercials.

Huh? Thetem is in more of the NBA commercials. Yeah. We'll get you out of here with this one. The Rockets are reportedly open to trading Afrin Sangoon For a deal for Yanis the prospect of adding Yanis and the blockbuster deal viewed as intriguing within the Rockets organization It's gonna take more than Shungoom to get it Is it? I mean, hell yeah to get Yanis. What's the salaries?

What Yanis he's about to end a three year deal, 175. It starts next year, three years, 175. What's the goon made? What's the goon made? I don't know what his salary is. Bad Shungoon probably made 30 mil. No, he didn't get paid. He got paid, didn't he?

30 mil is getting paid. Matrix, damn. Yeah, yeah. You're making feedback. He's working for minimum wage. He got more than that. No, no. 37.

Okay. Okay. He got 37, almost 40. I mean, so they're going to throw no, I'm 37. Okay. Okay. You got 37 almost 40 I mean, so they can throw somebody else in that deal. Oh, exactly. I wouldn't be surprised they would throw Jalen green in that deal. I Told Ocho that Ocho look they be like I have seven hair. Oh, hey. Yeah You like you like you think they'll keep Thompson over green? Hell yeah! Damn.

Hell yeah. I would. I love Jaylen. You're a 3 and D guy. I love Jaylen but yeah. I mean I like look I think I think Jaylen Green is amazing. I mean you see game two he dropped 38. But he's too inconsistent. And what I need now in order to win a championship or to his consistency.

And I think Armand Thompson gives me more consistency. So yes, I do think they would part with Jalen Green. I think Jalen Green can be a farce. Once he get that consistency down, I think he's going to be okay because he's a hell of an offensive player. He can shoot the three, he can play above the rim. Need to work on his middie, but okay. He can get to the hole. But Armand Thompson right now, Ocho, I think, I think Shungun and Green and some draft picks. Yeah. Dang it. I'm really listening. I'm just saying, listen, I really thought

Young Bull was the future, you know, just'm just saying, listen, I really thought Young Bull was the future, just maybe not in the league, but the future for the Houston Rockets, and taking that next step and evolving to being one of the better players. Yeah, but you gotta look at it from this standpoint. You're talking about getting young, and you said 30 years old,

and you know what I'm saying, and you know what I'm saying, you gotta try to capitalize on the window he got of being in his prime to win another championship. So if you can get, if you can make that happen and get him down there and you can find some of the pieces to put around him and like keep that veteran band fleet

down there and Thomas and a couple of other, man listen, I like Uncle Jeffy down there too. Uncle Jeff down there, man. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeff good for a roster. Saw another veteran guy down there if he gonna stick around and man, I'm telling you, they can make something happen out there.

They was really good this year, man. Listen, I'm a man. They did a great job down there, you know what I'm saying? And I was happy to see them do that. I was optimistic. They probably could have job down there, you know what I'm saying? And I was happy to see them do that. I was optimistic they can pull, they probably could have beat Golden State, but they just wasn't, they weren't disciplined enough. And they ain't had no closer.

They don't have a closer. Nope. They have no closer. They're by committee. They're by committee team. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right, Matrix, we're gonna, tell the people what they can find yet on social media.

IGX. Matrix 31, I think is on everything. Okay. That's what's up. What's your media? IGX? Matrix 31, I think is on everything. Okay. That's what's up. So, hey, make sure y'all go follow Matrix 31 on IG, Facebook, X, what, TikTok, whatever they got. I don't even do TikTok, bro. I got one, but I don't even do it really though. Yeah. You ain't got no TikTok?

I do, but I don't do it, man. I'll be, I don't. Oh, you got Snapchat? Hey. I do got Snapchat, but don't be calling me on Snapchat. So, hey, y'all make sure y'all go, y'all go make sure y'all go follow Sean Mary in the Matrix. Hey, Matrix, thanks for joining us,

give us a little bit of your time tonight, we appreciate it. Check back in with us when you get some free time, bro. Will do, will do, appreciate you guys, man. Always love. Have a good one, man. Keep it up. Love. That was Sean Mary, a four time All-Star,

two time All-MBA champion with the Dallas Mavericks. One of the great two-way players, three and D guy turned himself, had a very unorthodox shot, but he went in. So it doesn't matter how pretty the shot is, does it go in. I've seen some pretty guys that miss all the time. Oh Joe, in the book, American Kings, a biography of the quarterback, author, ESPN's reporter,

Seth Wickersham describes how Caleb Williams was so concerned about being drafted by the Bears that he and his family weigh in circumventing the entire NFL draft. They spoke to lawyers to find a way around the league's CDA and considered signing in the US UFL. Chicago is the place where quarterbacks go to die. Carl Williams, who's his dad, said ahead of the draft according to the book. In addition, none of the Bears coaches last season told Caleb Williams to watch film or give him zero help. No one tells me what to watch. I just turn it on.

Ocho? Yeah. What do you break about that revelation? I mean, it's obviously, I mean, you look at what has happened to all the quarterbacks who have been a part of the Bears organization and you could understand why Caleb Williams and his father felt that way. Yes. Look that way for a reason, you know, look how they treated everybody that's come through that organization that has played the position and the quarterbacks that did have success, they had success simply because the defenses in Chicago at the time were amazing. Really good. So all you had to do was just facilitate and don't turn the ball over and defense will take care of everything else.

Yes. I think Caleb Williams is in a great situation now, Unc, especially with the supporting cast they have around him. That addition of Ben Johnson and the rest of the coaches on that staff. I think this is going to be the Bears' best year yet, and they're going to surprise a lot of people. Every football season, the main guns are always in contention. Your Eagles, your Bills, your Ravens, Bengals if we start off to a fast start, your Chiefs, your Lions,

and for some reason, I don't know why, and you can quote me on this, and that goes for everybody else in the chat. The Bears will be in contention in one of those teams buying for a playoff spot and challenging for Lombardi simply because of not just the quarterback play, but with a great understanding of what Ben Johnson and his offensive creativity can do for a skill set,

for the skill set that Caleb William has. And I'm going out on a limb and I'm saying that because I saw what he did in Detroit with Jared Golf. Yeah, and he has a more athletic. I'm not surprised by this. Carl Williams, who's Caleb Williams' father, it is his job to protect his son and put him in the best possible situation.

I don't have any problem with that because he said, look, you look at all the quarterbacks, Mitchell Trubisky, you look at Justin Fields, you look at Rex Grossman, you look at, uh, uh, Justin Fields, you look at, uh, Rex Grossman, you look at all the quarterbacks they've had. They, they have, they haven't had any luck with the quarterbacks. No, no. It is what it is.

I mean, and so he's well within his right to make sure that he's trying to put him son, his son is going to the best situation that gives him the best chance to succeed now, um, about the, what do you think about the watching film, not giving the coaches, not giving them any direction? I don't know, that's tough right there, especially at that position. Before you touch the field, the only way to prepare is by watching film

on your opponents and knowing what you're gonna see, you know, day to day, week to week. So it's hard for me to believe that, that there's no instruction in that area, especially for the most important position on the field, who has to know everything that's going on, especially your opponent.

So that's, I don't know, that's a little tricky, Unc. I think maybe they thought you were a quarterback playing in the top five program. You got that word you were the USC. Maybe they just took for granted, because a lot of times they take for granted, like, bro, you played a big time program, bro, we ain't gotta go over that.

We can go ahead and skip that step and start getting to something else. Now, I just wanna say this for us, for me. The way we got tape cut-ups, Ocho, it was first and third, third and one to three, third and three to five, third and long. But we had cut-ups. Cover one, cover two, cover three, cover four, two man, cover six, you know, whatever the case may be.

So it was broken down, so we watching it. And so we see this is what they do in cover three. This is the front they give us. This is the coverage they play behind set front. Yeah. I don't know. And like I said, I think maybe it was a situation they thought he already knew how to watch film.

Everybody, I didn't know how to watch film because we really didn't have to watch film, Ocho. Hell, if HBCU playing man coverage, hell, what the hell you think you gonna get? It wasn't about the disguise or nothing. There wasn't no cover too. It wasn't no single high. It wasn't no six kick.

It wasn't no 88. It wasn't no box pose. It wasn't none of that. It was man. I would have expected to of that. Right. It was man. Mm-hmm. I would have expected to be man. Right. So I need to be, so bro, what he doing? Why he ain't, oh Joe, I'm a little asking, why he ain't got me man?

What he doing? Right, right, right. But nah, it's cover two. What the hell is cover two? Mm-hmm. So they had to break me all the way down in order to build me back up. And nobody made me feel stupid that I didn't know that. No, I went to a program.

I went to an HBCU, Ocho. We didn't have receiver codes, tight end codes. No, we have all that. Yeah. No. And that's one of the things that I really enjoyed, Unc, that it's not glorified on my end because of my style of playing, the way I play the game,

but I was a student of the game, huh? Yeah. That's a part of it, that people didn't even realize I wasn't able to go out there and do what I did by not studying like a goddamn third, you know? Because it's overshadowed by the fun and the entertainment and the celebrations and the flamboyancy and all the shit talking.

But dude, uh, but when it was time to watch film, oh my goodness, I needed to know everything. I needed to know everything. I needed to know what they, Travis was our person who broke down our film for me. He was our camera guy, our video guy in the department. I had him break down all the clips of the previous four games of the individual.

You know I got the number one corner every goddamn game. Traps. I need everything on first, second, and third down, right? On these down the distances. In our area, before we get across the 50, and when we cross the 50, what they like to do? What coverage am I gonna get? Is he gonna bump?

Is he gonna play, man, I'm looking at everything. Is he a shade inside? Is he head up? Does he like outside leverage? Know what a safety company, I'm talking about everything. I can tell you, I can tell you based on down and distance, I can tell you what they gonna run when I'm coming out the huddle.

Yeah. And I know it and I knew it. That's why I had such a confidence in my approach to the game, because I studied like a goddamn, like a nerd. That's the only reason where that confidence came from. It wasn't about my talent or my skill or, you know, me running around and just, I know what you're doing before you even do it. At the snap of the ball.

Mm-hmm. And that just, oh my God, man. Now, towards the end of my career, when my body wasn't able to react, you know, the way it was when I was in my prime, being able to study film and knowing what was happening before it happened gave me a little bit of an edge When I might have lost a step a little bit. Yeah right

Yeah, and I think that's the thing you look at down a distance I mean we going over what they like to do and down a distance what they like to do in red zone What did I like to do back? They got you backed up? This is the coverage They like to play but that was always on the tape. Yeah. And so I'm looking and then so, like I said, I could, guys, I'm not trying to belittle anybody. I'm just saying, maybe they thought this is something that he already knew. And so they didn't give him the instructions that he need.

Me, I'm looking at it from the way we had it in Denver, it was broken down. You plug, hey, third and one to three, cover one. Every You plug A. 31 to three, cover one. 31 to three, cover two. 31 to three, quarters. 31 to three, six. Two man, okay. 35, 30 long, back duck, midfield, red zone.

When they play eight, okay, nickel. Wehmm. Hey, and you know what? When they play, hey, okay, nickel. We go, hey, this is the cover. Hey, they're not going to play a handful of cover. They're not going to get all that get too exotic. They like things that they like to do a couple of things to try to catch you off guard. But when they're in nickel defense,

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It was because you study coverages and you study things that teams like to do but they had the personnel the goddamn Ravens and the goddamn Steelers during the 2000s. Yeah they got exotic. Man they doing all type of exotic shit. That's Rich Ryan. That's Rich Ryan, that's Reg Ryan, especially. Uncle, where your camera go? I'm off, I'm off. Yeah, I can't see you. I'm gonna wait till you come back. Okay, well anyway, anyway, chat, listen, the goddamn Ravens and the Steelers from the 2000, that 2000 era, all that cover too, and 50,

they had all type of exotic stuff that just it was like it was confusing So no matter how much film you watch there was no telling what you gonna get on game day I come out the goddamn huddle, you know my split tight I'm looking at I'm looking at the safety. What a goddamn safety yet. Hey, I'm looking goddamn Troy Pallimallo in the goddamn a gap And the goddamn a gap so I'm high I'm thinking I'm looking at Carson I'm hitting Carson over there Yeah, because I'm thinking it just me. I Taylor one one Man, um, I'm looking inside at the snap of the ball. I look back up I'm running my route this goddamn Troy and got way back to the to the goddamn third at the snap of the ball. I look back up, I'm running my route. This goddamn Troy done got way back to the goddamn third

at the snap of the ball. Yep. What is you doing? That damn Ed Reed. Yeah. He playing safety. He all the way in the back like it's part return. Yep.

What you doing? It's third down. So Ed is doing the opposite of what most safeties do. They sit there, and they backpedal back. Ed playing the game the opposite way, he start back and come forward. Yep. What?

Ed? I love playing the Raiders and the Chiefs, because you ain't getting my man coverage. Well, the Raiders, man to man. Chiefs, man to man. Cheese, man to man. And they right in your face. Dale Carter and James Hasty right here. And they had, they had

Alvin Lewis and Kevin Ross. And with the Raiders, they had James, they had Washington and they had T-Mac, Terry McDaniel. Yeah. Right there. They right there. And they had T-Mac, Terry McDaniel. Right there. They right there. You know what you're getting.

Every time. Hey, my company says real simple this week, guys. You got to beat man coverage. Now, if you can't beat man coverage, you either coaching or selling cars. Now, my coaching staff filled up. I can't hire you. John, you hired anybody? You got new salespeople you need to hire?

Nope, coach, I'm good. Okay, you're gonna be without a job. Yeah. Wickersham also said the Williams family thought of publicly attacking the Bears and the city of Chicago to try to force a trade. Concerned that the team would refuse a trade to him regardless and cause a worse situation, Caleb told Wickersham, I wasn't ready to nuke the city. I can do it for this team. I'm going to be the... I, I wasn't ready to nuke the city.

I can do it for this team. I'm going to the Bears. I like it. I like it. I like it too. I know a lot of people might say what I just said. You know, it's laughable. It's a joke.

They're a shit franchise. They might not like Caleb Williams for whatever reason, but I'm telling you, you got a quarterback like that and you get an offensive coordinator with that kind of creativity, understanding the strengths and the weaknesses of the supporting cast that Kayla Williams has around him. Man, I think the sky's in the...

Look at the additions that he got. They fortified that offensive line. Yes. They drafted another offensive weapon at the tight end position. You got Roman Madunze. You took number one overall. You just re-did DJ Moore. So you've got weapons out to Ying Yang.

You fortified it so he should not be getting attacked from the defensive perspective like he had, like he got last year. So would that be, I think they got Joe, they got Joe Tooney. I didn't sign a guy from the Rams. Didn't they get the offensive lineman from the Rams? But they fortified their offensive line. Now look, he's going to have to do a better job of not holding, getting rid of the football.

Sometimes you got to know when the journey's over, throw it away, live to see another day. Don't take your team out of field goal range and don't make it third and long. Some things it's going to be in his hands. I think he has a better understanding of that. Having played the game, uh, um, got a year up on his belt, Ocho things are slow down for him this year. I know he's going to put the work in.

I've talked to the young man, uh, um, uh, and I know he's going to put the work in. And so, uh, I'm excited. That's a very tough division, Ocho. Yeah. Hey, you got green. I mean, think about it. Green Bay went to the playoffs last year. Minnesota went to the playoffs last year.

Detroit went to the playoffs last year. Yeah. And listen, chat, quote me and remember this. Whatever day it is, it's Friday, Friday, May 16th. I guarantee you the Bears look like a totally- It's day Thursday. It is? Oh, well, it depends on where you are. Okay, I'm in LA but my

computer's late. It's Thursday still. Thursday, yeah, but I'm telling you the Bears, every year there's a team. Every year. Yeah, there's a couple teams that pop up, you know, you didn't think they were gonna be in the playoffs and they end up being there. Yes, now I hit a time and I'm rarely wrong when I have my takes, even though they might sound terrible at times but for some reason they always they turn into fruition. Who do they sign offensive linemen? And that goddamn Jalen Johnson. Yeah Jonah Jackson yeah so they fortified their offensive linemen Ocho. They spent big money. Yeah they got a center from the Falcons they got offensive linemen from the Rams and they got Joe Tooney, who's a Pro Bowl player, who's been an All-Pro.

So they've done what they should do to make sure the offense flows smoothly. I think Caleb Williams takes another step. He gets better. I think they take off, but they don't have a choice because they're in one of the toughest divisions in football. They're in one of the toughest divisions. It might be the toughest division considering they had three teams represent the NFC in the playoffs. Where are their four teams represented in the playoffs? Yeah they are. I mean they had what a

15 and 2 team or 15 and 1 or 15 and 2 team they had a what, a 15 and two team, a 15 and one or a 15 and two team. They had a 14 and two, a 14 and three team. And they had what, a 10 and seven or 11 and 16. So probably gonna take you 10 wins, 11 wins, just to make the playoffs, don't you? Yeah. And I believe they have the talent. I mean, like I said, I think that they did

what they need to do offensively to make sure, because at the end of the day you ain't doing nothing Okay, I'll get your defense is if y'all face of trash. You ain't going nowhere, bro You're not you wasting your time. And so they like look we got the number one overall draft pick Let's cut down on some of these sacks. He was I think he was the most sad quarterback in the NFL So if you can take 20 sacks off of that number Get his completion percentage up. I think he was 62%.

Get that up around 66, 67. Yeah. I think they'll be fine. Because I like what the Bears have done. I like the hire of Ben Johnson. I love the addition of the tight end from Michigan. Although I thought Warren, the guy from Penn State was better in my estimation, he was better than me.

Um, if I had to, if I had to grade them, that's what I would do. But Hey, they went with who they thought was going to be the best in their situation. I don't have a problem with that. But, um, I mean, you hear rumblings behind the scenes that, you know, he's thinking about Chicago. It might not be the place for him considering they haven't developed the quarterback an extended period of time. Hell, I don't know if they've ever developed a quarterback.

You have to go back. Wait, wait, wait. Like I said, they had Rex Grossman. What's the guy, the guy from Purdue? Uh, ended up going to the Broncos. Kyle Lorton. May I remember Kyle? Yeah.

Yeah. Uh, uh, uh, so look, um, it was reported that he wanted to go to Minnesota because he and O'Connell hit it off. He said, man, I really love to play. Uh, maybe he saw, maybe he saw a Jetta over there. Parkinson. Addison. Woo! That probably didn't hurt either. But I think he did in a great situation. Look, you were in Chicago.

You were in Chicago, they gonna love you. That's an old school team, they love they Bears. They've been around in this thing for 100 plus years. They love the Bears, They love the Bears players. That was a football town. I mean, they love the Cubbies too now. So I think the Bears, the Bears, all right, the Cubbies, they got, the Cubbies got what was that?

2016? When did they win the championship? 2016? After a hundred plus years? They're like, okay. All right, Bears. Y'all haven't won since 85, 40 years. Come on now. What y'all haven't won since 85, 40 years, come on now.

What y'all got for us? Oh, Joe, a fan pointed out the Colts' social media account has only posted thrills of Daniel Jones and none of Anthony Richardson. Have the Colts already decided they're going with Daniel Jones? I don't think so. I don't think so.

I doubt it. I doubt it. Obviously, when it comes to a quarterback competition between Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, I think that's one that Anthony Richardson would win. Obviously right now what they're doing right now I don't think it's a testament to who would be the starter even if there is a quarterback competition I really think that Anthony Richardson would win that out, obviously having the edge, knowing the offense. Man, you ain't paying no guy no $14 million

to sit on the bench. What other, back up quarterback, you know, making $14 million. Okay, so you think that- Or the 31 other teams. Hold on, you think they just gonna throw him in there, huh? Based on- No, I'm just saying, I think there's a quarterback,

I think there's a quarterback competition. You said you don't think there's a quarterback competition. I think there's a quarterback competition. why else would they get that man 14 million I know one thing Anthony Rich is as a head start on that quarterback competition because he knows the offense yes I agree he knows offense so if you will if you allow him to beat you out I think it's more politics because they're paying Daniel Jones 14 14 goddamn million And I think they'll just get you number three overall. I put I put 38 million dollars in your pocket, guaranteed.

I can't teach a whole damn contract. What you mean? There's politics. It's politics that Anthony Richardson hadn't gotten better in the things that he was doing wasn't conducive for you being a starting quarterback and being good. And you think Daniel Jones is the answer? Because we saw him. What's the question? Huh?

What's the question? You said Daniel Jones answer. I didn't know what the question. Did he go to Duke? Yes. Is his name Daniel Jones? Yes. I mean, you can't just say, do I think Daniel Jones the answer?

I need to know the question. I'm just, I'm just running down everything you question. I'm just running down everything you said. I'm just running down everything you said that anything Anthony Richardson didn't do. Yes. You're saying, well hell, what you think going to happen when God damn Daniel Jones is there? It's going to be all of a sudden he's going to go from what he was last year and all of a sudden just be what Tom Brady this year? No, absolutely not. No, I think the thing is, but what does that say?

He thinks Daniel Jones is who he is. In your third year, did they bring another receiver in and have him compete with you? Oh, no, because by the time I hit my second year, I had arrived. OK, thank you. That's all I need to say there. That was not only the Colts gaffe

they've made in the last 24 hours. The Colts ended up deleting their schedule release video that is done by Minecraft style and included a dolphin wearing a tan Tyreke Hill jersey being pulled over by the Coast Guard. Remember what happened in the opening day? An apology, the Coats said, we've removed our schedule release video because it exceeded our rights with Microsoft and included an insensitive clip involving Dolph's receiver Tyreke Hill. We sincerely apologize to Microsoft and Tyreke. That wasn't fucking insensitive.

Tyreke ain't one of them goddamn, uh, Oh my God, why did you do that? He loved it. He said you should have left it up at Coase. This was funny. Yeah, it was funny. It was that, that, I mean, people people have to understand you make jokes about certain individuals You you have to know who you're doing it to right? Someone's not direct is going to laugh at that He's not one of those overly sensitive people and obviously I'm assuming the people at the Colts don't know it and maybe other people

Would get upset for Tyreek Tyreek wouldn't care. It was funny. You damn Tyreek Microsoft Tyreke wouldn't care. It was funny. Damn Tyreke, Microsoft. They tie your ass up with rights. They got more money than the whole NFL. All the NFL. You don't want to be messing with them, Mocho. There's certain things you can do like, oh, I don't even care. And there's certain things, when it comes to big companies like this,

that's sitting on $3, $4, $ three four five six hundred a billion dollars in cash Don't fool with them. Oh joy. They need more to take it down. I'm sorry Okay, I see you. Hey, I'll show you just apologize and keep it moving the movement. Yeah, they keep it moving Hey some of some of the the schedule releases in the creativity from some of the teams. I really enjoyed and the creativity from some of the teams. I really enjoyed. I really enjoyed. And that's why we have to be super, super cautious. I told Ash, we're not showing another video.

We make sure, we ask, can we show this on our platform? Make sure we get it and then we gonna screenshot it. Because the last thing we want somebody to do is say, yeah, you can do it and then erase it. And we ain't got no, we ain't give them no permission. Nah, you screenshot that ass. But that got our ass burnt. We had a 90 day, you know, we in probing in hell.

And then the dude took all the money, the revenue that we got from the video. That whole episode. Right, he probably, he done ran through that now. He ain't got no more of that left. Oh Joe, you remember the guy that DM'd you last week, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

What about him? He got upset. Like bro, you gave us permission to show the thing. You gave us permission to show it. Oh. I sent, I sent an ass a message and I I you know, I was a man at whatever because I believe it was the issue. I was like, um, what was the issue? I mean, man, we yet what's your location? So you could tell me what you're talking about in person. I asked three times, you know, I mean, if you feel like listen, I had this, I didn't say anything bad. I ain't

say anything bad. I just that's what I think. But I think the thing is, you know, he from Miami, you from Miami. He took it away, but, you know, I was like, bro, so you just bypass what I said. So you only heard what Ocho said. Yeah, but I didn't say nothing bad. I just said that takes too long for me. I like to get in and out, you know?

But he missed the point where I said, before you said that, Ocho, I said, man, yeah, that's $300 worth even for the haircut, the facial, I said, before you said that, Ocho, I said, man, yeah, that's $300 worth even. For the haircut, the facial, the shave, the trim. Yeah, that's $300. So he bypassed it. But again, Ocho, we talked about that, remember? Yeah.

The way we're wired, we only hear the negative. Right. He bypassed the positive, and I went longer with the positive than you did saying that it'd take too long. I went way longer, but that's what he heard Yeah, but with a man you doing a great job. You provide a great service. I'm gonna go get the server I'm gonna go get it. You ain't got no damn etiquette. You're only 150. Nah, I'm gonna get me through matter of fact Let him shave your head with that straight razor

No, could I get bumps? I get bumps. That thing look like a nisse and crunch No, because I get bumps. I get bumps. That thing look like a Nessie Crunch. Nessie Crunch. It would. Hey, I don't know where it's at. I'm going to ask the patient. I'm going to get that treatment. I'm going to record it too. Bad, we had a dude on our team.

I ain't going to call his name. He shaved with one of them disposable razors. Oh no. Under here? He stuck his face in an ant bed ah No, okay. We call it bump daddy. Yeah. Hey, it's me one time It took me one time to do it. I forgot I forgot um, I think was 2007 the barber I was in a rush. So he said well, let me use this on you and he used the oh, yeah

Oh the metric. Oh my god, it took by two days, it took by two days that all this up under here, man, looked like a damn Nestle crunch. It took forever to go away. I don't, hey, I don't do that. No, I do shave with a razor. I put that blue steel on my face and I don't bump. Yeah, I'm scared of that.

That right there, oh no. Yeah. Oh no, man. Man, you be busting blackheads for months. Pfft. He-he-he. Ah! He-he-he. Nah.

Hey, Javontae Davis versus Lamont Roach rematch is set for August 16th. Oh, yeah. In Las Vegas. You excited, Ocho? You coming to the fight, Ocho? Nah, I'm going to watch it on TV. I don't like going to the fight because I can't see the fight

develop being at the fight. Even if you sit ringside, to me, as a person who loves bossing itself in the sweet science, I like watching it develop round by round. Well, I'm telling you this. When Bud and Canelo fight, I'm going to that fight. You're going? I'm gonna watch it develop ringside.

Yeah, it's in September. But Vegas is on the list, but they listed like LA, they listed a couple of other places like Dallas. Listen, a fight like that has to be in Vegas. It should. It has to be in Vegas at MGM or hell, a fight like that, they need to have it at the goddamn, what's the thing, uh, uh, with the big ball. Oh, the spear?

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All right, Ocho, we're gonna get you out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Oh, yeah. Hey, Ocho. Yeah, what's up? Hey. Oh yeah. Hey, uh. Yeah, what's up? Like, it's 10 o'clock in LA right now, right? Yes.

So, my son graduated tomorrow morning at 8 a.m. Yes. You think, you should I just get on the road right now and drive to Arizona, or should I just catch that flight in the morning at 5 a.m.? Catch that flight. Okay. at 5 a.m. Kiss that flight Okay, that's a six-hour drive Six hours, yeah

Okay, the drive Arizona Yeah, I mean it's a 40-minute flight. How the hell is the six-hour drive? That would be three hours. Okay Tell you car ain't going 600 miles an hour. That's how. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. That's why it's the time.

Yes, absolutely. Six Foot Aquarius said, uh, in that 2005 Eagles playoff run, they won two playoff games without Tio. Do you think it was a good idea to bring him back for the Super Bowl? Yes. As a matter of fact, he's the only one that played to a standard. You think anybody else off physically look good? You see they won two playoff games. Let me ask you a question.

How many games do you think they would have won if they didn't have Teo on the team? So you forget about those 15 touchdowns that Teo had that thousand yards that he had before he got hurt and the first team all Pro selection. So if Tio's not on that team, are y'all even in the position to be in the playoffs? No question Smack at halftime, what's up? I'm gonnachoa. I got another one. Start, bench, cut. Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, or T.O. God damn. Ochoa, this is O.U., Ochoa.

I'll let you out. This is your expertise here. Come on, come on, man. No, this is you. I ain't got nothing to say. I'm on my phone. Damn, what a, hey, listen, that's a good one, man. It's like, listen.

Well, go ahead and give us an O.U. So you say it's a good one, that gives us a good answer. All right, that's a good one man. It's like. Well go ahead and give it to you, I need it. So you say it's a good one, that gives a good answer. All right, I'm starting T.O., I'm starting T.O., moss on the bench, and I gotta cut Calvin. God dog! Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, they're my boys too, man.

God damn, that's a tough one. That is. And in the chat, y'all could probably disagree. They might probably switch, they might probably switch, have Tio starting to have, I mean, have Randy starting to have Tio on the bench. But we talk about two of the greatest of all time. Obviously Calvin Johnson is right there in the realm of who and what they are. He didn't play as long.

But that's tough, man. That's tough. So this is what Tio's, this is what Ocho said. He's starting Tio, he's benching Moss, he's cutting Calvin Johnson. Yeah that's tough man. That's tough. Nope I ain't got nothing to add to that. Sir K said my guys call me crazy but I think this would be Mike T's first losing season because I don't think Mason Rudolph would take us Steelers fans to the promised land Why Steelers so stubborn about finding a quarterback?

We talking about Mason Rudolph not gonna be starting a quarterback and he's starting quarterback for the Steelers He's purposely doing what he's always doing because teams are allowing him But not teams the Steelers are allowing him to wait until him to wait until he decides to come in. He's going to be there. He knows what he's doing. He knows he doesn't want to retire. So, I mean, that's what it's going to be. Okay. I think the mistake that they made, me personally looking at it, is that they didn't get a quarterback soon enough. They should have got a quarterback and let him sit a year or two behind Ben. And they didn't want

to piss Ben off huh? They didn't want to piss Ben off and that's why they're in the position they're in now. You see guess what? You see what happened? You see what Green Bay did? Oh yeah. Oh yeah and Aaron was pissed. They got a quarterback with Brett Favre and they had they got a football. They got Caleb, they got love, Jordan love, when Aaron Rodgers was there. And guess what? They got prosperity. Yeah. Yeah.

You worried about somebody. So when that guy gone, you didn't piss him off, but he at home, he glad you miserable. I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers glad that it would have been happy, you know. But I'm saying you spared his feelings, but you suffering. What about your feelings now when you get in your eyes beat in every year? Not your B is, Uncle Nocho loved the show.

Is James Harden the best score with the worst playoff resume? That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. I mean, we've never seen a scorer like him in the regular season, uh, and, and, and lay some, lay some, lay some duds. It's not that he always does, but it seems like the bigger the game, the game sixes, the game sevens, when you really need that guy to answer the bell.

And that seems where he falters. Cause then we've seen him have some good game one-twos, but the game six or seven, no joke, like, rubber needs to meet the road. This is do or die. We gotta have a must have that he hasn't been the James Harden that we expected that we expect to see,

or that guy that we've seen in the regular season. Cowboy Gio say, no don't know, Joe, question. If Prime DeRose never get hurt, does Steph Curry still run the league? Y'all think the best DeRose y'all ever saw, y'all think he's better than Steph? Let's take a minute, it's MVP season, because that was the best we ever saw DeRose.

Y'all think he better than Steph? And they have two completely different playing styles anyway in what they do. Yes, but even in the different playing styles, y'all think D-Rose is absolutely... Go ahead, O'Kell. Go ahead. He plays above the rim, huh? Yes. D-Roe plays above the rim. Very exciting player. Very exciting. But I don't think it's completely different.

But even if you take D-Rose at his absolute best, which is his MVP season, he averaged 25 points a game, do y'all think he's better than Steph? I mean, really, I'm just saying it's not a rhetorical question, it's a serious question. Chad? No! It's not a rhetorical question, it's a serious question. Chad? No. Yes.

Uh, uh, uh, King Govon said, uh, 11 of 40 from three for OKC. At what point, if you're a coach, do you tell your players to stop shooting threes? Yoke it's MVP, hashtag Yokich MVP. I just, when I look at, when I look at OKC, I don't look at them as a three-point shooting team. I look at Boston as a three-point shooting team. I look at Golden State, some of the other teams.

I mean, everybody shoots, and look, to say somebody's not, that's not true. Everybody's a three-point shooting team, because I think a lot of teams shoot more threes than they damn should. But if you just go by averages, I mean, everybody's shooting on, I mean, they're getting up about 43 the game, well, maybe 50 between the two teams. But I thought, I think shooting for the three and not being aggressive because they normally shoot 25 free throws a game. Shade normally, shade normally gets to the free throw line. How many times does Shay get to the free throw line tonight?

He got 11. So he's about average. He's like 11, 11 to 12, 11 to 15. Sometimes he gets to the free throw line 16, 17 times, but about 11 times about average. But only three guys shot free throws tonight. And one of them was a bitch of a role player. He came off the bench.

Jalen Williams was one for two. Chad Hong was came up the bench Jalen Williams was one for two Chad Hong was one for three Jalen Williams 0 for Hardenstein 0 for Lou Dorek 0 for so three of you guys are you starting line up didn't shoot a free throw which tell me that sadly goes in great but if it don't whoo. Cameron Norwood Jr. said, uh, my question is what team is the best fit for Yonis when he leaves Milwaukee, not including Dallas or Miami? Oh, well, shit, you just talk, you just eliminate the best fit.

Yep. I think Houston would be a good fit. But the question is, does he really want to end the West? Don't mess with the West. Because Shungun and possibly Jalen Green and Draft Picks pair him with Armand Thompson, Van Fleet, Dillon Brooks. You can switch everything. You got defenders. I would bring, I would bring what you call them back, Stephen Adams.

But the question is who has the players and the draft capital? Because that's what they're going to want. I want draft capital and I want players. Shungun is probably the best player you gonna get. We'll see how that thing plays out. I mean, three, four years ago, we didn't think this was possible, but especially after they won the title, but you know, they fire bud, they break it up,

and here we are. Zach Solerio, I'm calling it. Lakers 26 NBA champions. I like that. No chill wheel, Uncle No Chill. What sport do you think would have the best talking back moments? Huh? Talking back moments?

I don't know. What do you mean? I mean, football, baseball, basketball. Anytime you, I mean, it's hard. I mean, how you What do you mean? I mean, football, baseball, anytime you, I mean, it's hard. I mean, how you talk trash in baseball? I guess you could. You gotta park on your punk ass. I like to see pitches and batters go at it.

I mean, I think it's kinda hard cause look, the guy can throw that pitcher, hit you over your ribs, hit you in your ass, hit you upside your head, your arm, wrist, so you know, you know, I don't really wanna talk in trash to the picture. Hey listen, back flip, back flip. After you hit the home run and watch what happens,

you come back to that place next time. Yeah. I'm on. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you for joining us. I am your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host Liberty City's own. Pro Bowler All Pro, that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson.

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