Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Baker Mayfield MVP SEASON Loading + Tua Gets CAUGHT SNITCHING + Ravens IN BAD SHAPE + Flacco CAN’T HELP Bengals

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Baker Mayfield’s MVP Season campaign, Tua gets caught snitching on his head coach Mike McDaniel, Ravens season slipping away an...d Joe Flacco can’t save the Bengals! 0:00 - Anthony Richardson Hurt on his day off9:48 - Baker for MVP 17:35 - Tua Snitching35:00 - Ravens in bad shape 55:20 - Can't help Them! + Pats (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ocho, I don't know if you've ever heard of something like this, but it happened. During the Colts pregame warmup, Anthony Richardson, fractured his orbital bone when he had an issue with a rubber leg band. So you know how you're doing the stretch band and stuff like that? And I guess it's a snap. If I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, Chad, you can correct me. I think there was a situation where rest is so, Congressman Harry Reef. had a very similar situation using the exercise band it snapped popped him in the eye and i think
Starting point is 00:00:35 he lost the vision in the eye damn um then to make matters worse tradavia's war was warming up on the field he collided with drew ogletree suffered a concussion he missed the game hey have you seen something that's happened before no i've never seen nothing like that happened before now the band and the stretching and it pops I understand that I understand that now that could not that can happen because it's happened to me before
Starting point is 00:01:05 but not to where you know it I mean right the face but hey it depends on what band you're using you know they got the thick bands they have the thin band yeah how much
Starting point is 00:01:18 but they have the little you know the ones that they have a PT not those not those like weight lifting bands you know that we attach that we're attached to the barbells and stuff like that to get extra tension these are the bands that they you know open you know you be stretching to do it like that and you see what you see the guys like
Starting point is 00:01:37 loosening up with it i thought he broke his orbital bone yeah it's it's snap yeah i don't those little pt bands can't do that yeah well that's what did it okay damn that's that's unlucky man but but like to back about how how many times you know people have been using those distress after a while yeah um yeah uh yeah uh ohcho you know you know how you get the medicine balls ocho and you slam them down boom and some of them are bounced up to you and some of them you have to bend down yeah yeah man what you think you think them up yeah man we think class one day and this lady got one that he didn't realize it that it was going to bounce hit it right in the note she slammed it and stood over it made up face it i made that thing hit her to face
Starting point is 00:02:35 by four times by four or five times locho you're like oh oh joe oh joe i was a quarrel I was like this here. Because it's something like you see in the cartoons. Man, you know how the cartoons do it. That's how it was. But it was real life. I was like, oh my goodness. Oh, yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah, that's funny. Man, what's it called a... Anthony Richardson got buzz in love. Yeah. I mean, do you understand how unlucky that you have to be for something like that to happen? I mean,
Starting point is 00:03:29 you hear stuff like that happened, Mocho. You know, you read like such and such happening because I remember, like I said, I think Congressman Harry Reid had something very similar to happen,
Starting point is 00:03:41 but he was like elderly. He's probably like 80 years old, 80, 85 years old, maybe even older when that happened. But a young man, something happened like that man gosh I'm trying I'm trying listen I obviously I wasn't there I wasn't there to see it I'm just confused on what exercise you might have been doing what stretch you might have been doing for
Starting point is 00:04:00 that to be even be possible you know he might have been out yo you might have been that's right that's right okay and then you know like you said maybe it was one of those one of those bigger bands you know the funny thing about it is when it pops you don't know it's gonna pop and you don't have the quick to the quick quick twitch fibers to be able to react fast enough. Oh, no, no, no. That thing is that pop.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Is it right? Before it, you only real, you only react after it doesn't happen. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You just thought of that. Just thinking about that. Yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And man. So hopefully Anthony Richardson can, you know, I, you know, I'm telling, that's, that's pain. I fractured my orbital. So I know the pain. Man, it felt like a, you know. Well, the doctor said it was like if I was in a bar fight
Starting point is 00:04:57 and somebody kicked me in the eye. So I had a complete, I had a complete blowout of the orbital floor. Because your eye sits in my socket, the floor. My floor was completely gone. So my eye dropped like three and a half. So they have to go in there. So that's why it's really hard. You know, I'm constantly like my nose because I,
Starting point is 00:05:17 I got a plate. I got a carbon fiber plate. My eyes actually sitting on a carbon fiber plate. Hey, oh. But, hey, this is interesting. I like that. You know, most high-end,
Starting point is 00:05:29 most high-end vehicles have carbon fiber, you know, on the outside and kits and the inside. It's light, yeah. You got it in here? Okay, okay, okay. You're fast. Yeah. Oh, got that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Yeah. But the only thing is, man, and the thing was on your show, you know had I was congested my son should say man you ought to use a netty pot I said what's a netty pot it's like a netty pot where you pull pour water saline water salt water of one nostril and let it you know you tried it got infected the the bacteria got caught got caught in that mesh look like somebody somebody somebody punching in the eye I closed up
Starting point is 00:06:17 I ain't know what I oh Joe it got so in fact that I ended up I ended up I ended up like having all Mercer well then I was in a I was in I was in the hospital for like four days damn then they sent me home with a pick line I was getting a thousand I was getting a thousand over a thousand milligrams I was doing like two out bags of IV of just antibiotics bank of my son so a peak line so I got the thing the pole ride around and it going straight going straight into to try to get it up out of there. Cleared it up.
Starting point is 00:06:50 It took me like two weeks to get over it. Got another cold. Closed back up. Went to the doctor. He says, we're going to have to change this plate. He said, don't ever use, he said, don't ever use a netty pot again. He said, you got to be careful if I blow my nose.
Starting point is 00:07:05 My nose will start bleeding. Hold on. Hey, this is interesting to me. You, damn, you like Robocop. Yeah, I am. If you go through the metal detector, does that, does it go off or no? No, it doesn't go off, but I got the artificial hips
Starting point is 00:07:23 and they always, you know. Oh, you're like, you're like a cyborg. Okay, I like that. That's dope. All I know is that every time I go off and they said that little, what you call them? They showed a little red. Mr. Sharp, you, as you can see right there. I said, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:07:42 So they got a... Hey, my dog. Okay, I like that. Yeah, man. I had a bad, but hey, well, I was messed up, man. I was messed up. Daniel Jones finished 22 or 30, 212, 2 touchdowns, an interception. And he gets credit for a fourth quarter game winning drive
Starting point is 00:08:02 when he helped engineer a nine-play 66-yard drive that ended with a decisive touchdown with 432 remaining. Only two quarterbacks have led coach to five wins through six weeks since 2000. Peyton Manning and Daniel Jones. I don't know. When I talk about quarterbacks and I say situation matters, where you go, your environment, the weapons around you,
Starting point is 00:08:28 as some people say, oh, coaching matters. Well, listen, coaching only matters when you have players like this. The situation that Baker may feel in, the situation that Sam Donald is in again for the second time, Obviously the situation in Minnesota, now you see what he's doing over in Seattle. And now Daniel Jones, going for the New York Giants, which wasn't going well, and what he's doing now and goddamn Indy, it needs to be studied. It needs to be studied.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And it's so important, not going high in the draft. Forget what number you go, but going to the right situation. Where you go. It's all about where you go. It's more important where than high, how. And Daniel Jones is showing that. He's showing that. He's played unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Indiana Jones has been great. He's parlayed himself into a, he's going to get a big payday. Oh, Joe, if he can't get this up, he's going to get a giant normal playday. The funny thing about it is, is he's going to get a huge payday. Or the Colts are going, definitely going to be the team to keep him. Because now he's auditioning for everybody who might need a comeback as well. You know that, right? He's auditioning for other.
Starting point is 00:09:38 teams that might be in need of a quarterback. They're not letting him out the building. We got it. I'm just making sure. He definitely getting that bag. Ocho, the Bugs beat the 49ers, 30 to 19. Baker threw two touchdown passes and had a spectacular scramble. Fans serenaded him with MVP chance and many were still Hailing Baker as he left the stadium.
Starting point is 00:10:02 The injury riddled 49ers lost four-time all-pro linebacker on Fred Warner to a dislocated right ankle. Kyle Shanahan said the ankle was broken and dislocated and he'll need season-ending surgery. Baker, 17 of 23, 256, two touchdowns. Buka left the ball game. So he's playing without his four top receivers. Bucky Irvin is top running back and he's still doing that.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Right now, he's the MVP frontrunner. I know it's only six weeks into the season. It's his booth, huh? The MVP is his to lose, the way Baker Mayfield is playing right now. He's playing the best, the best football at the quarterback position with no Mike Evans, no Chris Godwood. Obviously, Bucky Ervin goes down. Ibuka goes out today with a hamstring injury, and he still doesn't miss a beat in the past year. And he played a couple of games without Tristan.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah, yeah, the awesome, awesome, one of the better left tackles in today's game as well. Hey, Baker Mayfield, again, situations matter. Oh, my goodness, he's playing good. It's better, Ocho, to let guys be themselves. I think that's why a lot of guys have success in Baltimore because they don't try to change you. Whoever you are, all we want you to do is play hard. If you like to talk, talk.
Starting point is 00:11:28 If you want to be quiet, hey, ain't nobody going to talk to you. Whatever you like to do, whoever you are, we want you to be more of that. And see, Baker, this is who Baker is. Tampa say, you leave. If you want a joke and you want to die, and you want a dad, you want a new wave. Did you see him after he had that scramble run, when he escaped the pocket,
Starting point is 00:11:48 went to the sideline, came back in. He got up. All I can think about was when he put that goddamn flag in the middle of the flag. He played the flag in the, you know, and, uh, yeah, man, that's your, okay, that's the Baker Mayfield. I'm going to love. You know,
Starting point is 00:12:05 the quarterback position, they have to carry themselves a certain way. They have to be almost political robots in a sense. He's one of the few that does not abide by that rule. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:16 He's a very emotional guy, but he can flat out throw the football. And it doesn't matter who's in there. He's going, hey, I'm going to get you the football. He's like, let's say, look, there are a couple of guys.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Sam Donald is in that discussion for MVP. Sam Donald is playing extremely well. obviously my home's going to be somewhere low for lagging around because I think my homes probably have how many touchdowns the interceptions does my homes have as but he's playing extremely well but shaking bake shaking bake shaking bake doing his thing man and and see you know somebody that believes in you somebody that wants you at the end of the day we all want to be wanting if you in a relationship you want you you want to know that your partner wants to be with you.
Starting point is 00:13:05 You want, I ain't saying you got to tell me every day. But they got to let you know. I'm glad you said that, huh? Now, I know we're talking football right now. And that resonated with me right now because sometimes we unsure because sometimes we have to ask, you know. And yeah, excuse me, miss, hi, do you want me? You sure? Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Okay, yeah, yeah, I think everything is okay. Yeah, yeah, I think everything is okay. Yeah. Appreciate that. I'm glad you just said that, man, because sometimes fellas at home, like, if just, you need to ask and make sure, you know, how the bucks want Baker Mayfield, does your woman at home and your girlfriend or whoever you're seeing, do they allow you to be yourself? So you can be your best version of you, you know, because when you're your best version of you, you get what you get with Baker Mayfield. So if you feel like you're in prison and you're not free, you know, to be able to blossom and bloom like yourself, you need to ask that question. Okay. you just want to, sometimes you just want to be appreciated. Sometimes I just, just tell me, say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me you appreciate me. I just, I appreciate you. You appreciate me? Oh, thank you. Yeah, she appreciate it. That's, that's, I, look, I ain't big, I, I, I'm big on affirmation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:26 That's my thing. And, and, and, and, and, and that's how I operate. And Baker, he just wanted to be. appreciate it. Let me look. I'm not going to put you in harm's way. Yeah, look, I'm not. But, but I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And you know, I think, look, those progressive commercials, I think the thing is with that, you know, I think progressive is based in Cleveland. He's the quarterback of the Browns. Now he's basically the only really commercials I see. Now, I don't know what they do is local, but the only really commercials that I see nationally is the Heisman House. him and he does a great job. Those guys, I mean, that's a family, that's a brotherhood.
Starting point is 00:15:06 There's only X amount of those guys, and they do a great job. But I think he's really focused, you know, he doesn't forget anything. Yeah. And, and, and, and, Cleave, you got rid of me. Can you imagine letting us, man, like he went to MVP? Like, y'all had MVP. Y'all had this. But y'all didn't believe in me.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Y'all said y'all wanted to grown up. I guess I grew up, huh? Hey. Now, the Carolina situation, Teper, I know he got mad at Steve Wilkes, but an interim coach, if not, doesn't have any say, that's Teper. Absolutely. He goes to the Rams, we know he wasn't going to be the Rams because Matthew Stafford he wasn't going to stay there, but he goes to Tampa and he gets into a situation
Starting point is 00:15:55 where you got Chris Godwin, you got Mike Evans, you got Cade Aughton, Jason Light has done a great job of drafting. You get Bucky Ervin, you get White, you get a Mechabuka. So he's done an unbelievable job. But give Baker credit. He didn't complain. He didn't hang his head. Oh, Paul Baker.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Oh, man, I can't believe Cleveland did that to me. He didn't do any of that. He didn't soak. He didn't cry. He just put, hey, put his boots on and he went to work. And I'm happy I'm happy for him. I've been one of like when he was in Cleveland, when he didn't play well, I said that. But I have no problem whatsoever. Giving a man, giving a man credit,
Starting point is 00:16:33 when credit is due. His credit is due. He planned his ass off. And you know what? Every dollar he's earning. Every sin. Oh, oh, oh, Baker fit to get, Baker fit to get him again. He did a three year. Oh, yeah, yeah. He did he in year two of a three. I mean, they, I mean, they come see him. Oh, Baker fit to get one of them over 50 million. Oh, yeah. Well, he's making 49. He didn't do it, make it 33. They gave three years by the 100 million.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Okay, okay. Oh, they definitely. Now, I mean more to that because y'all see them other guys? I do that. Come see me. I need that. Uh, we ask, Mahomes has 11 touchdowns to two interceptions.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Oh, Joe, the Chargers beat the Dolphins who have now lost four games this season in which they trail by one score in the final two. two minutes. After the game, Tua was asked how players can refrain from feeling sorry for themselves. Ocho, take a listen to our response. I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys and then what we're expecting out of the guys, right? We're expecting this. Are we getting that? Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up to player only meetings late. Guys not showing up to player only meeting. Like, there's a lot that goes into that. Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we
Starting point is 00:17:57 not have to make this mandatory. So it's a lot of, it's a lot of things of that nature that we've got to get cleaned up and it starts with the little things like that. To be clear, you're saying some players were late or missed. Late, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Obviously, you can say some of these things. I like that. To be in the quarterback, being a leader, having that C on the chest and addressing those things publicly. But you can't throw, you can't throw your players under the bus, you can't throw your players under the bus like that. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:18:32 You can't throw your players under the bus like that because even though you are the quarterback, they're not going to view that likely. They're not going to, they're not going to, they're not for to like that. Is that you, Ocho? Is that, I know, hold on, Chad, I want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly. This is not the Ocho that I say that he said he won't people to tell the truth. Well, hold on.
Starting point is 00:18:53 You got mad at me when I was happy that Cam Boar say, hey, we ask. You know, I mean, you said they can see it. I'm glad you. I was trying to get you to see the big picture, but you were in the forest and you didn't see the trees. This is why. Now, see, but it's different.
Starting point is 00:19:09 The context, the context in which they were playing, it's okay. He wasn't talking about nobody. He said, we collectively as a group, but that's almost like snitching. They're like, what you mean? Okay, that's in-house. You know what? I was late. Come and holl at your boy.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Come holl at me. Let me know. You know, I was late, whatever my, but you don't go tell the media. You don't, you don't do. Come on, now. I don't know how Mike McDaniels make it through the end of the season. He said this is a leadership. He said, do we make it mandatory or is it not mandatory? He's putting the onus on the coach. Right, but obviously when it comes, the players only meeting,
Starting point is 00:19:49 the coaches don't have anything to do with that. That is something that is, hey, listen, we don't have a meeting. We need to make sure everybody's on the same page. We need to make sure everybody on the pane. So let's meet at so-and-so time. Now, that's between coaches. I get it. Those that play to see on your chest.
Starting point is 00:20:08 What happened, Joe, is that when guys were showing up late for meetings that were mandatory that the coach had said when guys were showing up late for practice and the coach didn't nip it in the bud until they got too late. And so what was one or two turned to three to four, turning the five or six. Now, the story, the report was that there were two main culprits and neither one of those. One's on our and one is playing extremely well in Pittsburgh. But they were the main corporates, but they didn't say they were the only corporates. So, you know what?
Starting point is 00:20:44 Dan Bryant says, I want to know what part of this is he going to take accountability for? Two or three picks today. Two is third in the NFL with the most interception thrown by a quarterback. If you haven't said this privately first, then in the media, I don't respect it. And since we're on the topic of respect, I guarantee a lot of players don't respect Tua. Tua points the finger and literally has four pointing back at him. If you want to win, put yours in. See, hey, listen, you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:14 And see, he just said it. He just said it. You know, I understand. I've been in the locker room before. When it comes to the quarterback position, when things aren't going well, you take the praise. Take it on yourself. When things aren't going, when things aren't going, it's my fault. I got to do better.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I have to play better. When things are going well, you praise everybody else. Well, I was able to do this because my officer line, because my receivers are playing well, my running backs, they're running the ball really well. You can't do this because the reaction you're going to get from the players. Well, damn, that's, oh, you, oh, it's like that. Yeah, they say, hold on, two, a tag, a turnover.
Starting point is 00:21:51 That's how you feel. You got, you got to be careful. you got to be careful it's going to back I'm telling you right now ahead of time it's going to backfire I'm telling you I'm telling you it's already it's over it's over but I told Ocho I was telling you last I said oh J need to break this thing up well you can you like no no I don't get running oh Joe it's over when you say break it up break it I mean I understand the Tyreeks situation they should have got they should have got rid of those pieces before the season
Starting point is 00:22:23 before the season. Oh, Cho, think about it. The report came out this year. So that meant it had to have happened last year. Guess who knew that was happening, the head coach? When you find you've got to tell the general manager and the owner need to know what kids are why are we finding these players? Why are we taking $500, $500, $1,000?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Why are we deducted this money from this player's check? because it has to be clear by the NFL players association because now you got to tell the PA what's going on because the player might say they just took the so what did you do it's over the Brian Flores situation they didn't like Brian Flores because he held their ass accountable get your ass to meet you got one job oh Joe I could see you know hey I'm sorry I'm late my other job got rent you know such and such I had to drop the kids off oh too you got If you're a professional athlete, you got one job. I'm just talking about football, basketball or whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I'm just going to talk about hours for. Oh, you got one job. If you got a nine o'clock meeting, when did you realize that you had a nine o'clock meeting? Yeah. Oh, that's what time all the meetings are. When did you mean, when did you realize that? You know what, man, we got a 1130 walk through. When did you realize that?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Oh, we always have 11.30 walk through. When did you realize practice was going to be at one? o'clock. Oh, damn, we always have practice at one o'clock. Duh. So why are you late? I understand. Sometimes you have a fender bender. Sometimes the kid, you know, a little late. You know, kid had to go to the emergency room. Something happened, blah, blah, blah. I get that. But your kid, they have to go 10 times. You didn't have 10 fender benders. You didn't have a flat tire. So all these excuses, all that goes to the grand scheme. of thing of winning there is no like one recipe for for to ensure winning but I can give you
Starting point is 00:24:32 a lot of ingredients for losing oh yeah now I can't give you one key ingredient for winning but I can give you a lot of ones for losing oh that's that's crazy this is not a team this this should have he should have never said that that should have never got out about But look, we know this, Ocho, some players have great relationship with reporters, and they leak stuff. Sometimes coaches and general managers and so forth and so on, they leak things. But if you notice, when teams are winning, you know, there's nothing that gets out. Oh, when the dolphins, what year was that? What year was that?
Starting point is 00:25:11 What year was that? They was going crazy on all. Two years ago. Oh, my goodness. But, man, nothing. Okay. We can ignore that and scratch that to the wayside because it's not biting us in the butt just yet. It ain't bites us in the butt just yet
Starting point is 00:25:27 because we know what's going to happen when we get out on that field. Tyree. 17-100. Jalen water balling, mustard balling, A-chain balling, or we can't go no wrong. Jalen Ramsey picking balls off. I mean, we're good.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Now look what it's got to in just a short amount of time. But see, Ocho, what did I tell you? What don't you do, Ocho? What don't you do? What should you never do? Never accept anything in a win? You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:26:01 When they was winning, Mike McDaniel overlooked the lateness. He overlooked the tardiness. He overlooked all of that because he was winning. When he started to lose and started to become a problem, Players, Ocho, and that was the thing, and I tell you the same thing. Hold on. When we was winning, you never had a problem with me sitting on my helmet. Now we start to lose, get out that helmet.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Everything. What the hell they got to do with us losing because I'm saying, so the other team say, hey, man, a sharp sitting on his helmet. They're going to lose this week. What the hell they got to do with anything? But listen, losing magnifies everything. Losing magnifies everything. And the smallest of things that aren't being done the right way,
Starting point is 00:26:43 it's magnified. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I don't, I don't know what they need to do. I don't know what we need to do because I consider myself a dolphin fan and been a dolphin fan since 1968, again, Dade County, Liberty City born, Jackson Memorial Hospital, I was born in 308 a.m., January 9, 1968, I know my doctor's name, he slapped me, Dr. Flores. So I've been a
Starting point is 00:27:12 dolphin fan for a long time. I don't know what we need to do from this far. And you say they need to to, what? They're going to blow it up. What are you blowing up, huh? This is the NFL team.
Starting point is 00:27:23 You can't blow it up. Oh, they don't blow it up. They're going to change coaching staff. You've got to be careful. They might get a new general manager also. That's the start. Some of them players that's there. Mr. Greer got to go.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Sometimes the hair got to go at the hat. Wait, the who? They said, they said, Brian Flores was too hard. They said, well, let's get. So normally, Ocho, you normally just pendulum swing too far. If you notice, we're not going to talk politics. It swung President Obama. And then it swung who?
Starting point is 00:27:58 President Trump. Now, the next guy is going to probably be in the middle. The next guy or lady will probably be a little bit more in the middle. We'll see how that turns out. We got three more years before that happened. So that's what happened. And so Mike McDaniels was too far this way. Brian Flores was too far that way.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And I've always had great relationship with all my coaches. I really have. But I think I learned, I think in my professional career, I learned the most from Mike because of the accountability that he made, that he, that he, that he forced upon us. And I didn't, oh, hey, then I got it. I got it. And he told me, he said, Shannon, I can throw you 100 balls. I can throw you 100 balls.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I can die out of the scheme. You have that kind of ability. I can throw you 100 balls. Shannon, we're not going to win that way. I said, well, I want to win. I said, you ain't got to throw me, you ain't got to throw me 100, but can you get me 80? We win? You know, I'm saying, don't try a year.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I don't need 40 if we win, but can I get 80? No, but in all seriousness, he's like, look, I'm going to need you to block better. I'm going to need you to block, you know, I need effort. Yes, sir. Yes. Say no more. Say no more.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But I was big on the caliber of Ocho. You know, I was, I was a captain when I, when I, and I was always, and guys kind of listening to me. And I remember, you know, we have the, uh, uh, the players council. So if somebody had, somebody came later, missed this or miss this or miss that, Mike would ask us, he'd bring us in the room. We sit around the table and say, what you think should happen. So I was like, after a while, the dude just kept being late.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I say, well, suspending for a game. A game? Ocho, you know what I said? I say, I'm the oldest mofoil on the team. And I get here on time. I'm the most accomplished on the team. So I get here on time. So tell me why his time is more important than mine.
Starting point is 00:30:00 We got the same job. We live the same distance from this, from this facility. So why can't he get here? but I can. So he's telling me he'll give a damn about me and my time. So why should I give a damn about him and his playing? I got you. I see you going with it. I see you going with it.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I see you going with it. Hey, but you call him in there. You said that in-house, though. You said that in-house. Yes, I did. But I told him, I said, I don't know what Mike's going to do. But I recommend that Mike sit your ass out of game. Man, that fuck-do.
Starting point is 00:30:36 You do all that. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. I say, see, one day you're going to be in my chair where you're going to be the guy that everybody looks to. And one day you'll understand. I say, one day you're going to understand what I'm telling you because the guys are going to be that same way. About three, four years later, I come back.
Starting point is 00:31:00 He said, Shaw, you're right. He said, these mofos don't want to listen. All they want to do is be on their phone. They want to do all this. They don't want to practice. They don't want to come on time. They don't want to do ish. He said, man, he said, I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:31:13 He said, I got a lot more respect and understanding for what you was trying to get to. I said, I told you. Hey, I said, I told you. Hey, like, I mean, that's the, hey, I don't know, but I don't, I'm, I don't have to jump on you. Yeah. I, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Oh, too. I was like, I don't know. You don't know, shit on me. I'm like, no, hold on, hold on. I just bitch on. Oh, hold on. Chad, I just niche on it. I just told, I just told him what, what I recommended.
Starting point is 00:31:53 God, man, I ain't got time for that, man, I mean, hold on. I'm getting my old ass up. I mean, what was that? Probably was year 13, year 14. I'm getting up. He only in your, he only, he only year four or five. I mean, you're 13, 14. And I'm getting my ass up and getting there.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Oh, no. Listen, you, you, you've been doing it. You've been doing it consecutive years. So you, you, you're used to the program. Year four, year three, you know, you're not, you're not acclimated to the program just yet. Not just yet. I know you're still a professional, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:28 But here's the thing, Ocho, what I understood is that I knew he was that good of a player. And one day he was sitting in my chair. And I understand it. Yeah. And I didn't want to see and guys look at you because I saw a lot of guys and I was like, man, I can't wait. I get, I start making plays. And if I can make a pro, we'll make a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, an all pro. guys looking at that and they're going to say well man i can't wait so i can be late to practice or i can skip this or i can skip that i see you going with it that's no no no no no no no no no no we go we're going to do it we're going to do it right we're going to have fun i want to have fun
Starting point is 00:33:12 too hey sharp man we gambling sharp there we're going to have a good time but when it comes time to work we're gonna work oh Joe we be in training camp cool we come in there before we go to practice cool uh offensive coordinator he said uh the boss need you to get him going today okay okay how you did it how you did so now oh oh oh i'm gonna up the band on the day, boom, boom, boom. I start beating on, oh, sure, I'm beating on, I'm beat on the locker. Boom, blue, do, do. Boom, boom, boom. Oh, I'm going to strike up the band on y'all. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going crazy. She ain't going crazy today. Now, who's going to get this work? Crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Hey, boom. Hey, cool week. We're going to get that work in. We're going to have a good time, but we got to work. I'm not wasting my time. I ain't here to lose. I'm not putting all this time in. I didn't spend all this money in the off season. I don't eat the way I'd eat to come in here and be six and ten
Starting point is 00:34:25 to be five at a level. I'm coming to win. I'm trying to get to the playoff. I'm trying to win the division, get to the playoffs. I'm trying to get to a Super Bowl. That's all I'm trying to do. All that other is don't even matter to me.
Starting point is 00:34:35 We can be friends or we can, look, we can be friends or we can be friendly. They're two different things. I like that. And everybody, everybody on the 53-man roster, they do not get along. We all left one common goal. I like that.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I like that. I like that. We could be friends. We'd be friendly. I like that's a good one. Ocho, the Rams stuffed the Ravens, 17-3, dropping the Ravens to one and five. Since the 14-team playoff format started in 2020, only one team, Washington in 2020, started one-and-five and made the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:35:08 The Ravens have been outscored 98-333 in the football. past three weeks. Only glimmer of hope is Lamar Jackson could return from his hamstring injury after the week seven by. Baltimore committed three turnovers, including an interception and a fumble by Cooper Rush, who was benched in the fourth quarter for Tyler Huntley. The Ravens three points are the fewest home since 2002 when the Buccaneers shut out the buck when they were shut out by the Buccaneers 25 to nothing. I was going to say, I wasn't on that. I was looking at how I don't remember being a bucket. But anyway, Baltimore has long. It's past six games without Lamar and failed to score more than 17 points in each.
Starting point is 00:35:50 D-Hop, bad football gets you to one in five. So whatever you put out there, that's how football works. Can I tell you something? Go ahead. I expected the Rams to do this. I expected the Ram to do this, especially the way the Ravens look and where they're ranked statistically on defense. Can't stop the run. Can't stop the pass.
Starting point is 00:36:11 so I understood a high-volume passing team with staff who's going to come out there and do exactly what they did. Now, on the other thing, on the other side of things, as much as I want to make fun of you and your Ravens, I'm not. You know why I'm not? Because them being one in five lets me know how valuable Lamar Jackson is. Valuable that team is. Let's say Lamar Jackson doesn't play the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I say, what y'all go what? Maybe one in 16. You know, there's a possibility that may happen. There may be some games where, you know, Cooper Rush or Tyler Huntley come in and compete. No, Cooper Rush ain't in. And I told him at the beginning of the season. I mean, y'all remember Cooper Rush? I mean, Cooper Rush had your own food.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Jerry said he was in. Jerry said there was a good chance he could be the future star of the Cowboys. But, eat, that neither here nor there. It lets me know how valuable Lamar Jackson is. You mean to tell me that Lamar Jackson basically puts this team on his shoulders every week and goes out there and wins with this team? He's the reasons why we are able to go and compete week in and week out, even with the shortcomings when you get to the playoffs, he still gives us our best chance. So what I've seen from the Ravens so far when Lamar went out, even when he was in, they still had a chance. But with him being out, you don't stand a chance to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:36 No, because the offense is Lamar centric. So it's going to be hard to win when you built your offense around the guy and that guy's not in there. Like you said, they weren't winning very many games with Lamar in there this year. Cooper Rush, 11 of 19, 72 yards. The man threw the ball 72, 19 times had 72 yards. So they were 26 here. There was 21 of 34 collectively for 117 yards. And also not just talking about the quarterback too.
Starting point is 00:38:06 The other players on offense, to raise your level of play because you don't have eight back there because you don't have eight back there you have to bring your level of play up to par to hide the weakness quarterback yes zay baby zay or you that boy you have to take over in situations like this when you get to i when i see that they're trying to make the plays trying to do extra trying to add that that spark to that offense you know it's just everybody bateman everybody has to it has to be elective effort okay we don't have our quarterback that means all of us we got to play damn near perfect you have to especially it's the NFL especially with three
Starting point is 00:38:49 turnovers yeah you're not going to recover on because with them turnovers they're getting points all them turnovers they're not because they're not they're not good enough of overcome that yeah that's the problem oh cho people saying I snitch I didn't snitch we had the meeting because Mike called the meeting. Mike knew he wasn't in the meeting. I told him what I recommended. Because I didn't want him to like, man, hey, for me to be talking to him
Starting point is 00:39:21 and all the while, I recommended that Mike suspended his ass for a game. So I told it. Right. Yeah, it wasn't a snitch. I snitched on myself if you want to say something because normally whatever happened in that meeting, it stayed in the meeting.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah. I just wanted him to know. That was my recommendation. People are holding you accountable to street guidelines. And this ain't the street life. This ain't this is photo. Ohcho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Ocho. If I go tell you what I told somebody, how is that snitching? I told you what I told them. Yeah. Normally a snitch don't come back and tell somebody, oh, bad. You know I told such a such on you. They don't do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:04 It was a meeting. We had a meeting. What was going to be the point? punishment. Clearly finding him wasn't getting the message through. He kept doing the same thing. He kept doing the same thing. This is what I recommended. Now, he didn't take my recommendation, but I told him, I see, this is what I recommended. Hey, you would have told me that if I was on your team, you would have told me? I was told anybody. I would have probably dropped you on the spot. I would
Starting point is 00:40:32 have had to whoop you. Okay, well, hey, we got to fight every day. Guess what? You'd have missed that next game, I guarantee you. And you wouldn't even you wouldn't have been suspended. I would have missing that game? Well, we'd have told that locker room up. I guarantee we didn't tell that locker room up.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Oh, we're going to tell that locker room up for show. Damn, we're going to tell the locker room up, for show. whatever. Derek Henry had one of his best days on your 24 carries a buck 22 and you only get three points. You ran the ball really well.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I mean, think about it. You had more rush yards than past yards. That's bad. And like I said, I think they got a buy week. So he'll get an extra week off. Lamar get an extra week off.
Starting point is 00:41:33 So he could come back out of the buy. I mean, do you want them to come back out of the bike being that you really don't have a chance of doing anything can they string off seven or eight games in a row they can yeah yeah they can they have that kind of billi-o-o i mean that's lamar you believe in lamar hello okay then will you believe they can run off through you see you see how they look without him yes okay you're right The thing is that you're probably going to have to win that division because it looks like, look at the AFC West, Kansas City, Denver, the Chargers. Could you possibly get, you got the AFC South right now, Andy looks good, and Jacksonville, even though Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Hey, hey, Hey, DeWall, y'all want us to talk about the Jaggs today? Because y'all got mad at me, you know, Cho, y'all don't never say nothing about the Jaggs. Y'all, Jag, Jag, Jag, Jack, okay, what y'all at? I ain't seen not one person mention nothing about the Jags. You're talking good about the Jags. But, no, what, Cho, that was the thing. People want us to talk about the team when they, when they are two and 12. What are we going to say?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Whoa, Jack, Jack, okay. Y'all, hey, Duvall, where y'all at? Y'all want to talk about the Jags? I don't know, Joe. They're going to have to put some stuff together, man. Derek Henry can get hot. He and Lamar can carry your team, Mocho. They did it last year.
Starting point is 00:43:12 They did it last year. Absolutely. I just, I just, a lot of people that, that, there's really nothing, there's nothing bad. Obviously, you can pick and talk about Lamar Jackson and what he can and what he can't do. And, you know, no playoff success. But Lamar being absent, it shows you how valuable, how good of a player he is. that the team is not even functional offensively
Starting point is 00:43:38 without him there. And how important the quarterback position is as well. And why he makes and commands the kind of money, he's making it. You take a Lamar Jackson out, you see what you get. You take a Joe Burr out of the equation, you see what he get. Josh Allen, obviously, he hasn't been hurt,
Starting point is 00:43:56 but I'm sure they wouldn't be able to function as well offensively. It just changed the dynamic of everything that makes your team who it is when these top, top-tier quarterbacks are no longer available for your team. Had the defense been playing as well as they played today, they held them to 17 points.
Starting point is 00:44:18 You know, normally, Ocho, they give up 40s. They give up 30s. If they had been playing that well, maybe they've won a few more games. Get this game here, Ocho. I'm trying to, uh, joy, you, uh, see, uh, oh, here it is right here. I found, damn, it disappeared on me. You don't want me to see.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I'm going to get it, though. Who that? Who that? Who that? I don't. This game. Uh, your team. Oh, the Bengals?
Starting point is 00:45:00 Yeah. That's your team, baby. Hey, oh, I'm ready for this. Come on, come on, come on. Let me down some numbers. I know we lost. Y'all get ready for this year. I know we lost.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Run me down some numbers from the day. I know we lost. But I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you, I know a whole lot to a few. I know I got some Bengal fans in the chat. I know a lot of you. Oh, you know, you're sorry. You know what Bengals and all that.
Starting point is 00:45:24 He and ha ha. That's fine. That's fine. But I'm going to tell you, I saw some good things. I saw some good things. not in the first half. I know what you didn't see. And you ain't saw that in a month.
Starting point is 00:45:36 That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Listen, we building, we building to something good. Now, Jack Flacco, he's been in Cincinnati. Flacco been in Cincinnati for 17 minutes. Flacco been in Cincinnati for 17 minutes. And I saw him the first half, boom, it's a little shaky.
Starting point is 00:45:57 It's a little shaky, new offense. He got an app, uh, uh, a appetite. appetizer, appetizer of the playbook. There's only so much you can do. There's only so much you can put on this plate, even being a veteran, new offense, coming in new receivers. But what I saw from Flacko in that second half, when they had that 17-play drive on and kept the ball for 10 minutes in that third quarter and went down the field beautifully, I said, you know what? That's something we could bill off of. We got a quarterback that can keep our head above water, and we can function and we can compete week in and week out. Now, we didn't win the game. We played against
Starting point is 00:46:34 a good, a good Green Bay offense. And DJ Turner, DJ Turner, if you see this, boy, I salute you, boy, but you look good today. You hear me? You look good. You was on everybody, like White on Rice. I thought we were going to have a chance to win the game on, on that third down, and Romeo Dobbs got away, got away on that over route. I thought we were going to get a chance to get the ball back, maybe go down and take the lead, but it didn't happen. They kept the ball, drove down, got a few a goal, and it was too late. It was too late at that point.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Ocho, talking about their building. Building, Ocho, the Bengals building, like that church fund building. That you never finish. And listen, if you know football, see, some of the people probably didn't even watch the Bengals game, so they're not going to understand what I'm talking about. You look
Starting point is 00:47:23 for sides of, okay, listen, this is nice. Now, Flacco can do this and string it together for five or six weeks. He only had a small a small, several sides of the playbook at his disposal. So going into next week, we play the Steelers Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Hey, listen, we play the Steelers Thursday night. Y'all getting cooked. Let me finish, Matt. I'm going to the game. I'm going to the game, right? So I know that they're going to be able to give Joe Flacko more of the offense, so he he'll be able to do more.
Starting point is 00:47:57 How are you going to keep, how are you going to keep them wolves off? What wolves? Uh, T.J. Watt, Cam Hayward, Ah, Hath Smith, Hebrew. We just dealt with Michael Parsons and Rashon Gary today. How many sacks they have? What y'all play? Where y'all play in Cincinnati? How many sacks do you? Oh, I got the steeler's big. I got how many sex they had on Flacco today? Yeah, yeah, it's right there. I know you got it. What?
Starting point is 00:48:29 What? What? Exactly. What did I tell you, your officer line need to do? We need you to show up and just give them some time to throw. They showed up and they gave some time to throw.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Did you see Uno? Y'all gave a 20 fair point. Did you see No one? Yeah. Did you see the greatest receiver that ever done them strikes? I don't care who. They put the ball in the vicinity.
Starting point is 00:48:51 T. Higgins. I saw you. Yoshi. I need you to make them plays, baby. I need you to make them players to keep them. drives alive. You can do that. You can do that. There's a reason you're the number one.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Let's go, Steelers. Hey, we good. Who they? We're going to be all right. I'm telling him we're going to be all right. When day? When are you going to win another game? When day? Can I tell you something? Can I take something? Can I take what we're going to win? Yeah. You're probably going to win Thursday. Y'all not going to win Thursday.
Starting point is 00:49:23 As a matter of fact, if we... I told y'all have lost four of a row. Can I get five? for you tell me something right tell me something that i cannot do anymore if the bangles lose thursday and i won't do it i mean look you probably already done it you out everything they don't lost so much a nice little a nice little friendly bet nothing to do with no money but something that i can actually i can actually do i can live without if the bangles lose and i promise i won't do it no That's how much I believe in.
Starting point is 00:49:56 That's how much I believe in the Bengals Winning Thursday. I'll put something together. We'll have something tomorrow. Y'all not going to win, though. Hey, matter of fact, and you know what time it is I hear? It's time for you to get a new team to reap up.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Listen, I don't jump shit. I don't abandon it. I don't abandon it. Things are always going to be good. Things are always going to be great. Oh, Chode, things only been good for y'all like three times. in your lifetime. Stop it. Don't do that. We've had way more success than just three times. Come on, then. Yeah, really? Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'll take your word for it.
Starting point is 00:50:40 What's that? The New England Patriots went on the road to New Orleans and won by the score 25 to 19. Drake May was 18 of 26, 261, three touchdowns, no interceptions. He, uh, Boutet, five catches, 93 yards, two touchdown. D. Douglas had three catches, 71 yards. A touchdown. Stefan Diggs had three for 28, had a long one called back
Starting point is 00:51:12 for officer pass and appearance. Uh, the last time, the Patriots started four and two without Tom Brady as their quarterback was 1999. They won three games. in a row for the first time since 2022 are firmly in the AOC East Division race
Starting point is 00:51:30 thanks to that week five victory over the bills. Ocho, I don't know how much this game you watch, but Drake May is getting better and better, better, better, better and better. And listen, this all comes with repetition,
Starting point is 00:51:46 it comes with repetition. Not only that, coaching plays a huge part in that as well. And when you have Boothay, you got, you got a Douglas playing well. You got Stefan Diggs went crazy to the past two weeks. Now other receivers are stepping up and saying, well, hold on, you got the word about me too.
Starting point is 00:52:04 You can't just key on Diggs because you key on Diggs, this is what we can do to you. This is what we can do to you. And then Drake may not turn the ball over, protecting the ball, making all the right decisions with the ball. You can always have a chance. And then they're playing good defense. Vrable is the defensive coach. The deems of mine.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And you got Josh McDaniels back, and that's what. Hey, one thing, one thing you could do with, Josh, he can call some plays. Josh, moving forward, just turn head coaching down. You're not meant to be a head coach. You're meant to be an offensive coordinator. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's where, that's where you can I interview.
Starting point is 00:52:50 What if, what if he is a, a head coach, that calls the plays like he's off the coordinator. Why does he does? He does, but he can't relate to people. He don't know how to talk to people. Okay, okay, okay, okay. That's his problem. He doesn't know how to talk to people.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And the more people that he's over, he's a control freak. He talked to people reckless. So it's best that he deals with his little specialty group. which is the office to coordinate them and the quarterbacks. Tidy and coach, you have of them. Why receiver coach you held of them. Offensive line coach, you have, you handle the O line. Running back coach, you do that.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I will put this scheme together. We'll work on this. That's what he needs to do because he can't talk to people. He can't manage people. He doesn't know how to. Seattle Seahawks beat the Jags 20 to 12. Raiders beat the Titans, 20 to 10. Hey, hey, Jaggs, y'all want us to talk about,
Starting point is 00:53:54 y'all want us to talk about the Jag right quick? Let me see if I get, you know, get some of the Jag, right quick. Oh, Jag, you know, Jack, Jag, jag, whoa, uh, whoa, y'all was hooping the holley just the other day. Jackson Smith and Gigba, drop the buck 62, oh, y'all. Hey, Jackson. A for a buck 62 and 160 and a touchdown. Barner had three for 71, uh, Trevor Lawrence was 27 to 42.
Starting point is 00:54:22 256 two touchdown they ran the ball 19 type they didn't run the ball well enough uh you know why they didn't run it well enough because Trevor Lawrence was sacked seven times for 44 yards when you can't run it and they unleashed the hounds they would get they would get nothing now they would get after him uh oh de law former cowboy two sacks linda williams sack of a half brie murphy the second two sacks The Wusu, sack of the half. Thomas, a sack. And y'all, I mean, come on, Duvall.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Where y'all at? I don't think nobody from Duvall in the chat. It's late. What time it is out there? It was late last week, too. Remember when they played Monday night, it was late. The game in about the same time. Well, that's talking reckless.
Starting point is 00:55:19 All right, we're going to get y'all eyes out of here. uh it's final it's uh time for our final segment of the evening it's time for cue and you know what time it is out here all it's what time is it's 1st 8 o'clock yeah um 620 uh but what's she was what's because she just went to the airport so my my flight at 10 o'clock so i land in miami at five and then i'm taking the kids at an NBA young boy concert dr frankie l bellamy for the record i have fired my weatherman clearly he did not see a storm coming still love my cowboys you're gonna say the weatherman says it's going to be a cowboy victory weatherman always line morning coffee says
Starting point is 00:56:05 should do or need representation that can free him from cleveland that's the real story not lion's chief they got it's right can't nobody free him from nowhere daddy be no new england patrons fans in the chat is wild drake may is playing good football May is playing great football. Morning coffee, Uncle Ocho, read the room. We want your door free. But that ain't going to worry. What they got to do with it? That ain't work. Yeah. He ain't got no parole coming up. He ain't up for parole. T.S. Car watching detail service. Bengals need Russ, bad. Just spend the money. Who's the tallest NFL quarterback ever played? Uh, I think. Dan McGuire, I think he was six, eight and a half.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Oswald, it was like six, seven. I think Dan McGuire, Mark McGuire, brother, play with the Seahawks. Flaco was just fine today. For those, I mean, we lost the game, but unless you watch, I watched the whole game. I'm like, yeah, we can work, we can work with this. There's only so much they can put on this plate coming into this game. He was only sack one time.
Starting point is 00:57:12 You expect a game like this, with the, with the front line that the Packers have. You would think it would be turmoil. It'd be chaos. But it wasn't. You know, there was some good, some good flashes offensively. We're going to be all right. And you'll be able to see him Thursday night when it's the actual only game that's on. It's still going to kick that L.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Jason Zeldorf, Justin Fields, Aaron Glenn said football back 100 years. Who is the most god-offer quarterback in the NFL? Justin, Russ, or Chad, make Jake Browning. Chad's man, Jake Browning. Well, Jake Browning is the worst. but two of the three gotten benched if Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:57:54 don't start playing better he about to make it three for three and who's the back oh Tyrod okay yeah Tyrod is definitely capable of competing and give me your chance
Starting point is 00:58:05 let's start a conversation about Justin Fields we had that conversation earlier he's not playing well he's not processing he's not reading he's not seeing the feel well he's not we've had that we we oh show now we talked about that early i don't know if you uh if you joining us late
Starting point is 00:58:25 but we had a conversation about justin fields and trust me the jess are having a conversation about justin fields also jerry said how about them panthers keep pounding yes jerry you guys did y'all pouted them cowboys uh uh babo patel got to add my homes to the early mvp conversation next to Baker, 1514 pass the yards, 11 touchdowns, 222 yards, rushing four touchdowns, only two interception, especially the last three weeks he's played exceptionally well. He's always, for the most part, he'll always be in discussion. Every time.
Starting point is 00:59:00 But he's playing good football. He's looking like the Justin Fields, excuse me, he's looking like the Patrick Mahomes. Bet, yes. Danny B. Justin Fields looking like prime Jason Campbell on the redskins. Jason Zeldorf, my Giants man, my man Dart, aka Dart Vader, and Scat, aka Vanilla Jerome Bettas, is going to take your Broncos.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Dart is an actual NFL quarterback, unlike Fields. Still love you, Unp. Hey, Jackson, Dart. Well, hello, Ash, where did the Giants play the Broncos in New York or in Denver? Hey. That's a good game. But they're going to get out of this.
Starting point is 00:59:43 They're going to get out of his ass now. Hey, don't do that. You got to be careful. Now, you're not playing against no statue. Not playing against no statue. Justin Fields was a statue? Justin Fields don't get out that pocket or make them runs like, like goddamn Jackson Dart, man.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yes, he can run, but it's a little different. You don't see. You don't see. Brian Nusset. let's go Lions tough game tonight then we'll have us ready for the Buccaneers next week
Starting point is 01:00:19 next Monday we will get some players back soon from our R for DB and OL players we got Ocho Sunday Blues this week yep Ocho it ain't gonna look good y'all I mean y'all
Starting point is 01:00:31 it's not often that a team lose two games in one week I mean the Bengals going to do that all right I'm telling y'all y'all don't nobody want to listen to me no we don't pat dub says like my man texts me today after their game rico should be charged for a rico against the cowboys
Starting point is 01:00:53 uh feeling talked with pa i agree players have to execute and hurts had his worst game in three years on thursday but petula has been terrible the run game has never been stagnant under hurts and the past this inconsistent that is true um but teams are not going to let Sequan run the football. Jalen Hurts is going to have to be more efficient than the past game. It's really that simple. They are not going to let Sequan beat them.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Oscar Wright said, just wanted to tell Ocho that I know how you feel about the hall. But for all the kids that grew up watching you, we love to see an Ocho bust. Ah, uh, I could, I could, I could make my own bus. I got my own jacket.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Quentin May said, Ocho, favorite line when he's losing. You know what? Yeah, we know. They're going to lose again, Quentin, on Thursday. Trey Tano said, Dowdell, playing like this is your Panthers. Do you make Chubber Hubbard start again when he's healthy
Starting point is 01:02:01 or stay with Rico? You stand with Rico. The question is, let me ask you a question. Was Chuba running as good as Rico is right now before he got hurt? No, he wasn't. So, Rico's just starting out. Brandon Martinez, he, Uncan Ocho,
Starting point is 01:02:20 will the Cowboys keep pickings? Well, you almost have to, Ocho, because you gave him a draft pick. Would you give up a third for it? You gave up a draft pick, so you gave a draft pick just for a one-year rental? I think they keep him.
Starting point is 01:02:33 And I think he wants to be there. It'd be a great place to stay, but then Jerry going to pay him. Is he going to pay him what he's actually worth? and you already have a top paying you're paying a top five already and and guess what you got to do something again already yes yes yes god well i think they're they're they'll let pick go they'll let pick go so he can so he can he can get his payday the right the right way king lou the third said
Starting point is 01:03:05 miles garrett to dallas you see his face today yep the same face i've seen the last three four years He's just making more money now. Vincent R's a good evening, Uncan Ocho. Question is the 2025 Bronco defense on par better than the 2015 or 97 Broncos defense. Yes, it is definitely on par with all of those defenses. I think the secondary might be a little better. There are no weakness. There was no weaknesses in that secondary.
Starting point is 01:03:32 So you couldn't say, okay, I'm not going to throw it to leave, but I'm going to throw it to leave, but I'm going to throw at Chris Harris, Jr. No. You couldn't do that. Riley Moss right now is the weak link on the secondary. for the Broncos defense. So that's where people go. But you know, you had Vaugh, you had DeWare, you got Coot, you got Bonito.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I think the middlebackers, they're on par. You had DeWolf. Yeah, it's very comparable. Very, very comparable. I think I would give the nod to secondary, even though Pat Sertan is better than everybody in the secondary at the time. But I think the Broncos back for, was better than the Broncos current back for us.
Starting point is 01:04:14 But that's, but they're very, very comparable. But the offense is not there. The problem is the 2015, our office in 97 is way better than both of them. Jason, Ocho's flag football team got whipped,
Starting point is 01:04:30 his Bengals got whipped, and his pretend team, the Dolphins got beat. Ocho loves hot, yeah, the Hot El Cafe. That's all I'm starting thing about it. And people, we have to understand,
Starting point is 01:04:41 I know we like making fun of me, but I'm one of the few people that have no problem taking ails. I don't always boast and praise and scream to the mountains when it's W's. Like I take my ails with grace as well, as you can see. I'm still smiling. It's okay. Yeah, I mean, bro, you, I mean, bro, you played in Cincinnati. You used to that. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:05:02 King's Journey, Ocho, my flight landing in Miami, Wednesday at 8 p.m. What you do with, twin? And how that's your boy, listen, hey, my flight is at 10 o'clock. I land in Miami at seven tonight, then I'm going straight from the airport, straight to the NBA Young Boy Concert. So when you get that Wednesday, maybe we could politic.
Starting point is 01:05:18 We could politic at Tussies, you know? So I'll let you play. Saucci D. said, Uncanocho, what are your top three or top five individual athlete sports, like boxing, track, tennis example? Track and field is my favorite. NFL is my second favorite. um
Starting point is 01:05:36 basketball third um um I used to like me I used to like tennis but I don't I don't really I don't since Federer and the doll then I'm gone I don't really follow it like I used to
Starting point is 01:05:57 uh you know the sport that I used to I mean, I couldn't wait, and I would watch damn there all the time, the tour of the fronts. Yeah, it's too long. I can't watch no cycling. Man, hey. I can't watch no cycling.
Starting point is 01:06:18 When Greg Lamont first run, first won it in the mid-80s, he was a teammate, he was a lieutenant under Bernardino. And then he went and got his own team to 7-Eleven. And Bernardino attacked him. and then Miguel in derain the Lion King Mario Chipolini that I just
Starting point is 01:06:41 but I'm like track give me track if you give me take you only get three sports to watch for the rest of your life I'm taking track and field I'm taking football and taking my top three if you know me you already know what they are soccer is number one soccer will always
Starting point is 01:06:53 be number one football is next and then boxing is third you take them if that's all I could watch that that's my three in that order What's you laughing at? Cupcake Mama. Hey, guys, it's been a while. Shanna, you told me, let my hair down,
Starting point is 01:07:12 dive back into the dating pool. I'm telling you, it's shark-infested waters out here. Too many games. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, listen. Hey, is different? Cupcake, Mama, you out of you, you are. You are wild for that one. Hey, hey, uh, it ain't.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Ain't nothing out there, man. Ain't nothing out there. Yeah. Hey, like the song said, come on home. Hey. Are you ready to come on home? Someone is calling to carry me home. And if you ready, I told you, I'm coming home.
Starting point is 01:07:57 You better come on. Come on. Come on. Tim's Bid said this weekend was not good for my guy, Ocho. I'm going to need you to sit out this week. We're going to start calling LL. Oh, no, listen, it was a great week for me. Great, a phenomenal week.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Danny Littlejohn, your reaction to Penn State firing Jane Franklin. Ocho, what did that care of you? You did say that. You did say, listen. I told you three weeks ago. I said, Ocho, they're going to fire here. You showed it. you lose two games to unranked
Starting point is 01:08:31 that we just talked about that last night I said no way in hell they find him and they own 50 million you say I guess they said hold our beer I think you need to push your hat. Can't keep losing like that old chos. We put your hat in the park man to go
Starting point is 01:08:49 to coach at uh and you go coach at Penn State right now go ahead you go right ahead take out I don't want no part of that you know I met I met your owner of the day? Oh, did you, Rob Walton? Penner. Oh, that's the son. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he married. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, Walton Penner, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I think it was Greg, isn't it? Great today, I asked him, uh, asking for a job. I told him I could be the chief marketing officer. You know, how that's your point? that concludes this episode of nightcap we want to thank each and every one of you are joining us as you watch the kansas city chiefs take down to detroit lions to move to three and three by the score of 30 to 17 the lions fall to four and two thank you for joining y'all know who i am i'm your favorite uncle shannon sharp that is my partner and co-host london but he's back headed home stateside in a very few hours make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor. Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Ocho and I would like to thank each and every one of you for your support and you continue support
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Starting point is 01:11:03 Debo and Joe, they're live every Monday, Tuesday, and Friday mornings at 11 a.m. That's Debo and Joe. Chiefs beat the Lions 30 to 17. Broncos beat the Jet 13 to 11. They sack Justin Field nine times. times 15 cubic hits, seven tackle for losses, four pass defenders, and the Jets had negative 10 yards passing. Negative 18 total yards. That's not good. The Panthers beat the Cowboys 30 to 27. Rico Dowdo got his revenge with 183 rush yards. He told him, buckle up. They didn't buckle
Starting point is 01:11:47 up, but they had to learn the hard way. So that concludes this episode of Nightcap. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night after the games. Thanks for joining us again. Good night, everyone.

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