Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Best of Ocho’s Resume

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson does a deep dive into his stacked resume with Shannon Sharpe in this week’s Best Of episode. Ocho discusses everything from posing nude for PETA and his potential career as an MLB player to future President and much more!03:10 - Ocho inquires about a job on First Take09:30 - Ocho posed nude for PETA16:55 - Ocho could have had an MLB career28:37 - Ocho for future president?31:21 - Stay with me now, Ocho can lift(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, let me ask you something. You're feeling them, you're feeling them for them. Did you ask about, you didn't ask about your boy? You see what you did, Ocho? Now see that's how, I just got this, I'm on the job one day. I'm on the job, I'm on the job one job one day. You done been on the job two months. This my first time being lead dog, Ocho. But if you lead dog, then you had me right behind you.

But I had the thing, Ocho, Ocho. Let me get in the house a little while and they don't go realize that I've been taking scraps. That you know, then I've been giving you out the back. Listen, don't did. I've been, I've been giving you out the back. Listen, don't. Oh, man. Listen, I gotta get it good.

Listen, I'm telling you, let me, let me tell you something. The people over there, if they people over there knew what they were doing at first take now I'm talking about me and you one, two points. That's that special. That's something special. I'm the people, the people need. Oh Joe,

the people need. Oh Joe, what's the one thing the guys will all first take what they do? Debate. They harsh critique. Yeah, I could critique too. That's not what you're saying.

I can debate with the best of them. Everything is not meant to be a debate. Sometimes it's about a discussion and having an open and honest conversation about how somebody played. I can do that. Are you willing to do that? I'm willing to do that.

Whatever you want me to do, boss. Okay, after I see a couple of times that you do it on here, then I'm gonna go talk to the producers again. I do it every day on here. Nah, no, no, no. I do it every day. I do it every day.

I do, I do, to an extent. Just check it, check your boy, tomorrow. ESPN, first take. Wait, what time are you on? I'm on. Yeah. ESPN first tape. Wait, wait, wait, what time, what time you on? I'm on 10 AM. 10 AM Eastern. Hey, hey, hey, since I can't be on this, send your boy a shout out, man. Send your boy a shout out.

I was there, you know, I was there, shout out to Glensville, we at the house, Savannah State, what up? Nah, talk about FAMU. I ain't going to no FAMU, I'm with the Savannah State, what up? Nah, talk about FAMU. I ain't gonna go FAMU, I went to Savannah State. What y'all doing, my Mrs. FAMU, hey, I'm proud of all the HBCU, but ain't nobody get no love in front of SSU. What's wrong with you?

That's fine, just bring me on there. Bring me on there, I wear my FAMU suit. No, you ain't. Bring me on there. No. Yeah, why? No, can't do. Boy, if I get on ESPN just one time, well, I know my mom and my grandma gonna be proud. Look at my baby.

Look at you, boy. Hey. Look at your boy. I done made it. Your boy on TV. Granny, your boy made it. Hey, you're on TV, Granny. Your baby on TV.

First take. I need you to help me, man. No, I don't need much. Just give me, I do two two blocks a block and a B block I don't need much See, I don't need much. You see what you're saying? You see I don't need much. See what you're saying? You say you gonna give me crumbs. Give me give me crumbs Give me the A and the B block. That's all I need. See what you're saying. See I

Try I try to help you now. I try to say hey look at Ocho I'm gonna get you to pair I'm gonnacho, I'm gonna get you a pair of these Air Force One. Nah, give me the Jordan One. Damn, Ocho, I'm getting you a pair of free shoes. Now you telling me you want the A and the B block. You said, yeah, now you did that. See, we ain't never satisfied. I'm being nice.

I'm being nice by not trying to do the whole show. Just give me a little parent. Just give me a little fee. Just give me a little fee. You see how you operate? I get you a job. You don't want to start mid-level. You want to be the CEO. I said mid-level.

A and B block, that's like, that's 10 minutes. You do realize A and B start the show. Those are the most important blocks. That's why we put the most important block. That's where I need to be at. That's why I need to be at. See what I'm saying? You making my point.

You making my point. You ain't happy with Air Force One. You want the, you want the, you want the, you want the Freddy Krueger's. Who? Nah, I don't like that. You want the lobsters. I like the Air Force One.

Ain't nothing wrong with Air Force One, but if we gonna do something, let's do it right. Let's get the people what they want. Get the people what they want, man. So now you want me to get, take the most expensive shoe that the man gonna miss. The man gonna miss like, hey, where the jar are we have a size 11 Jordan?

Where is that shoe is? Listen, understand what you get when you get me that Jordan 1. Understand what you get once I'm in front of that TV and that camera with that goddamn three-piece suit on with a look, with the with the handkerchief hanging out of it. Understand what you get with the glasses on. Me off the air. That's what I get, me off the air.

So now we got two brothers. We got two brothers that's not gonna be on first take no more. Me and you. Hey, listen. Well, listen. Stop. Well, hey, listen. One thing about it is I ain't gonna sink the ship.

I ain't gonna sink the ship. I ain't gonna sink the ship. We ain't gonna be Jack and Rose. It's gonna be enough room for me and you on that do. So come on, just do what you need to do. Get your boy on there, man. Help your boy out. Sometimes in life, you know what we gotta do? We gotta pull each other up.

We gotta pull each other up. To get me where I need to get to, to reach the pinnacle of my success off the field, you got to put me in a position to win and succeed. That's why I need you brother. That's your purpose. That's your purpose. You do realize like when you're trying to save someone and they're in the ocean and they're drowning, you know you're supposed to come up from behind because the person is drowning. So he's going to push yourself. They're going to push themselves up. I don't like that analogy. I can swim No, no, you can't. No, you can't. But anyway, let me get my foot in the door Let me get a couple of these hoes to say must have you know, they say hey

Well, is there anybody you like to have on I'm like, yeah, you know what now that y'all mentioned it You see I did it. Don't you? Yeah, I like that. I like that But listen, listen, you sound like you sound like Ray right now when he was out there bootlegging. You sound like Ray right now. You've been telling me when you get your foot in the door, your foot had been in the door for two months. What else you ain't know? Oh Joe, oh Joe. Get the rest of your body in the door man. Help your boy out. Yeah, let me, let me. Oh Joe, I got to get in, get settled like, oh get this baby. I

got to know where all the, I got to know where all the stuff at. I got to know where all the stuff at. You know where the stuff at. I gotta know where all the stuff at. You know where the stuff at. You know what to do when that camera's on. When that camera's on, you know what to do. When the camera's rolling, I know what to do. All I need is you to get me in the building. Get me in the building and I'll take care of the rest. Oh Joe, that's the scene.

There you go, T. I got you in the building and see what I suppose I had been doing is going straight there. Me, I done got you in the building and I got both of us caught.. I got both of us called. I got both. I got both of us called. Oh, Joe, you pose nude to support Peter years ago.

Would you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But good. I pose. I pose nude. I pose nude years ago. You know, you know, it was easy for me. You know, I had I had. And then there was a little there's a little controversy because I posed nude for PETA, and then boom, people were getting on me about me using a football to cover, you know,

the three inches, and it was like, well damn, ain't the football pigskin? They got on me heavy, so it was like, kinda contradictory, contradictory. Yeah, they talking about, well I couldn't do it, okay about i couldn't do it okay that couldn't do it because they say man you got an elephant you got an elephant in the hand lock hey hey what a matter of fact speak i'm so glad somebody bought that peter i need to get that i need to get that peter that peter ad blown up come about how did that come about i can't remember this was oh this was a long oh, this was a long time ago.

This was a long time ago. I'm talking about this might, might, might've been in my prime. I don't even know what year that was. Hey, somebody, somebody in the chat, one of the ladies in the chat, send me that, that picture of that Peter ad to my Twitter, cause I ain't seen it in years. So I could get that. I could take that to the Kinko's and get that blown up so I can put it in my game room.

I don't think Real never seen that. When Real see that, boy, she might fall back in love. She might fall back in love because she ain't never seen that side of me. Ocho, you weighed 36 pounds. Would you stop saying that, man, for people really think I was that little, I played at 215.

I was at 215 too. Ocho ain't never been 215 in his life, Gil. With the pads on or off? No, off. I was rocked up. Pads and a 25 pound weight, I put him at 205. Right, like Rem Hettleton. Yeah, I was 215.

I was 6'3", 215, man. 4'2", 4'1", 4'2", 4'1", 40. Now you just told everybody, your 40 time was why you went in the second round. Now you ran 4-2? No, the reason I went in the second round is because I bounced around from school to school and there was too many red flags. That's why. Too many red flags. I went to 30-11 schools before I even got drafted. Bro. 30-11.

Look here, Eric Tuan was in the semi-league. That joke went in the first round, top five pick. Well, yeah, that was. What year's Tuan come out? 96. Yeah, and that's why. 2001. 2001.

2001. Man, hey, listen. They went and talked to my teachers in elementary school. I mean, what does it matter what I did in elementary school going into the draft in 2001? That made no sense to me. Actually, they went out of elementary school. Oh, Joe, when I'm investing that, let me ask you a question. If somebody said, oh, Joe, I got a deal and I need you to invest 10 million.

I need you to invest 20 million, 30 million. You gonna take their word for it or what? Are you gonna do some background checking? Do me a favor. I'm just asking, Oh Joe, I'm just asking. I understand, I understand doing a background check. Please explain to me how talking to my elementary teachers in 1985, 1984, whatever it may be.

What type of kid was he? Who does that have to do with anything with me going? Was he disruptive? Did he steal? Did he steal? Did he- Who wasn't disruptive in elementary? Of course I was. A lot of kids weren't disruptive, Ocho.

Show me somebody in elementary school that wasn't disruptive in any kind of way. Show me somebody in elementary school- My brother. That is steal some in some kind of way. My brother. I don't get, I really don't get that either. Like I was stealing cause I'm broke.

Once you left me, I ain't broke no more. So I don't need to steal. So that don't even, right. First of all, Gil, Gil, you had a mom and a dad, you middle class, you a broke, you good. We the rob, being an old chou would rob you. But I'm just saying the stuff they be asking, like if you drive me, all these problems go away.

My mom now, now some of the stuff, I will concede, some of the stuff that they ask goes overboard. Dickeyless. Now, you heard the story about Blackman from Oklahoma. Justin Blackman from Oklahoma State. Justin Blackman? Yeah. They went down there. What happened?

One GM says he went to Oklahoma State. He didn't know who he was. He said he was in a bar. He went to this bar five days in a row. Guess who was in the bar having a drink every day that he was there? Justin? Ocho, tell the people who got who's out of the league because why. Hey, you know, that's why you do that's why you Jackson Jackson Jacksonville Justin Blackmon.

Yes, the issue, the issue that he had in Oklahoma State. the issues that he had at Oklahoma State, Jacksonville didn't do their homework. One team did their homework, took him off their board. When you invest that kind of money, it's just like, you probably, if you're gonna invest that kind of time and energy and money in a young lady, in today's time, you better go do some background.

I mean, today you do have to go back to elementary. Now you gotta go back to elementary just to make sure. What it was then. Oh, there you go, Kiffy. There we go, we gotta move the conversation along. We gotta move the conversation along, I ain't fooling with Gil. Bad-ass fooling with Gil. Badass

fooling with Gil. I'm just saying. Hey, Gil, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. You do. You do. Ocho, see right there. Hey, hey, listen, when I was young. All 185 pounds. Man, I'm 215 right there. What did you talk about? No, you're not.

No, you're not. You see how many abs I got? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. 10, chisel, 3% body fat, six, three, 215 for 140. That was me. A squirrel leaning on a bear. Hey, one thing about you, I was here when I was well, man.

Hey, I'm telling you, I tell you, they voted me America's Sexiest Man Alive in 2005. 2005? Yeah, Sexiest man alive. Hey, there was nothing like me. I was Maurice Chestnut before Maurice Chestnut. I was Blair Underwood before Blair Underwood. Wait, hold on,

because we got drafted, you said 2005? No, no, I'm saying I got drafted in 2001. It wasn't until I came into myself and puberty hit, then I became the sexiest man alive for like a year. After that, that shit fell, I fell off after that. Yeah, you better be. Okay, I was just checking, cause I was, I was back then,

and it was, I was sexy in 46 states. Cause I was still, I was a small fucker. Yeah, yeah, they banned me. Y'all already know. Yeah, yeah. Hey, 40, they banned me. Y'all already know. Yeah, yeah. Hey, 40, 46? Yeah, 46. I was still working on the other ones.

Oh, man. Oh, that's a good one. Y'all need help. I can play for the Marlins right now, bruh. Now that I think about it. Look at my technique. You can't see my whole body, but you can see I know what I'm doing though.

What you think? No. You scared of that ball. Who? You. Oh, listen, I hit 90 hundred mile an hour ball with ease, man. I got hand-eye coordination. How you think I caught a football?

I tell you what, you ain't gonna, you won't even put your bat on a hundred mile an hour ball. Oh, you won't bet nothing? I go record it tomorrow. I go to the batting cage tomorrow and show you. Mm-mm. You ain't gonna do it. Let's bet. Let's bet. We bet.

Okay, bet. You won't put one ball in play. You might stick your bat out there No, you better do your homework now do your homework now I could play some baseball don't know you ain't never played no baseball who you Played baseball in college. I had I almost got drafted. Yeah to the military They were looking for a few good me. That was the only draft you gonna be a part of.

The athlete, I mean, Ocho, the thing is is that what you have to understand. Hey, that was a good one. Baseball is a sport. Like you can play, guys can play like, hi, you heard guys. Well, like Elijah Juan didn't play basketball, but like his 11th and 12th grade year maybe it's 12th grade year

guys play football play one year football baseball you better come up at five years old seeing the balls you ain't fitted that ain't no sport that you just pick up at 15 16 and so yeah I'm gonna be a proper hell no can I tell you something yeah I respect every sport and It kind of make me sad sometime where you don't believe how good I am at certain sports. I Believe you good high school in High school at Miami Beach senior high. I played baseball. I was I was considered almost Going into the first round but I chose to play football instead.

I was a five tooler. No. I was a five tooler. Now what you call it? Kyle and Murray? I was a five tooler in high school. That's how good I was. What are the five tools?

Dude, what you mean what are the five tools? What are the five tools? I was a slugger. I'll feel you couldn't get nothing. I would like, I used to pitch too. I would like say Ho Ohtani in high school. I did everything. I have boy, see you got.

So in other words, you can hip a power, hip average. Yes. Yeah, I did everything. I was the pitcher. Catch throw. Catch throw, man. Listen, everything. I was a five-two.

Hey, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm promise you. I was the catch throw man. Listen everything. I was a five to the ain't no I'm not I'm promise you I was often get drafted at Baltimore Orioles Ocho like I've said there's not I mean think about it think about how hard it is there had I been a whole lot of guys That's why why you think people give prime? Yeah, both so much credit. Yes Yeah, both so much credit. Yes, sir Callum Murray was the number one overall pick in football. He was the number eight pick in baseball. Yeah, that's crazy Brian Jordan, I don't know if you remember Brian Jordan. He played safety He ended up he was a safety for the Falcons a pro bowler He gave it up in turn and he played played probably 15 years for the Cardinals

Hmm. Wait, I don't know if all the years but a lot of the years bro that baseball is different animal Think about Ocho think about this here. Mm-hmm. You hit 300. Yeah, you're gonna be a Hall of Famer Yeah, where else can you where else can you fail three out of you can be successful three out of 10 times. Imagine if you caught three out of 10 balls that were thrown to you, or you made three out of 10 shots. You'll be at home on the couch. So that lets you know just how hard baseball is.

Man, hell. Hey, I ain't gonna lie to people, I was scared of the ball. So that was that was a plus baseball was summer. It wasn't the we have no traveling. I had to work man. Porter said you hit them fields. Yeah, you know baseball hit them fields and I'm cool with it.

Plus, oh Joe, you think you go from football to basketball basketball to track. Right. You have another month of school. As soon as we got out of school, we in the fields. Yeah, yeah. I ain't no time for no baseball, no damn baseball. Baseball and track overlap. Yeah.

Damn, I wish you could have saw me. Boy, I'm telling you. Hey, I wish you could have saw me pitch, boy, back then, boy. Pitch what? Oh, Lord have mercy. You heard what? Oh, Lord have mercy. Yeah, I heard you. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

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Hey boy, I used to get my hair in high school. The five tools you had. You had a lawn mower. Let me tell you how good I was. Can I tell you the five tools you had? In the outfield, I was the only person in the outfield. You had a lawn mower? Yeah, a lot of words. Yeah long more edge a weed eater a

Wreck a rake those are two a blower Those are for the tools that you had bad it makes you fine to LaMor a Badger a blower a weed eater and whatever wanted. Cause those are the only tools that you had, bro. I'm telling you, man, you got, you know, until you see it, you would never believe it. Some people say, I didn't know Ocho could play soccer until they saw it. Then they see me, I didn't know Ocho could play tennis.

I didn't know he could play tennis until you see it. Ocho, you kicking a soccer ball and actually being a soccer player, they're entirely two different things. Hey, do me a favor. Are you going to the TST tournament? You're not going. No.

So when you see the highlights from the tournament and you be like, oh shit, this motherfucker really know how to play. Make sure you give my credit. Oh Joe, there are guys that can go shoot a basketball and they think they can be in the NBA. There are guys that think they can catch a football, they should be in the NFL. There's levels to that, oh Joe.

Man, don't do that. Don't do them people like that, oh Joe. Don't do what? I've been doing it since I was five. Respect them people, sport. You okay playing no damn soccer? I can't? No.

See, I don't like when you do me like that, I don't like when you do me like that. I don't like when you do me like that. I'll be realistic. I gotta keep you realistic. So I can't play tennis either, hon. You see me play tennis? No, no, you can't. No, you not returning one serve.

Just because you can't do it, don't mean I can't. You can't return one, listen. Listen, there are clips of me doing everything you saying I can't do, which makes no sense. I tell you what, you not returning one professional tennis player serve. You said respect their sport, so I wouldn't be playing on a professional level then.

So what are we talking about? We talking about just playing the game. Oh yeah, well yeah. Yeah, well I can do that. I can go out there and shoot hoos. I can do all that, yeah. No you can't, no you can't. No you can. Well, I can do that. I got that you who's I can do all that. Yeah, okay Yes, okay. Yeah matter of fact, I can go play I can go play right now I can go right now and make the Miami the Miami open

Miami over what the Miami open and in tennis. Yes Right now At 56 I can go to a free arm. Matter of fact, I can go play for y'all. Matter of fact, I can go play for Napoli in Naples, Italy right now, coming off the bench. No. Yes. You'll never see no action.

Yeah, I'm gonna see that. Oh Joe, oh Joe. This man talking about, oh Joe, yeah. Cause you said you was gonna be able to play professionally. I'm talking about professional. I didn't say professionally though I would just talk about it. I'm really I'm really good at the thing Oh, yeah, you're gonna play the old people there's a lot of old people down. I don't play old people

I play the younger folk to let them know how good I am despite my age Yeah, that's what I do Oh, man. Oh Joe, you got to be believing that bad. Yeah. Oh, I believe old Joe could play. I can. I can. If you if you see you don't put your fault, you don't pay attention to what I be doing,

man. This is what I do. Oh Lord have mercy. I was at a celebrity tournament with Audrey Agassi and Pete Sanford. Yeah. You got hit that ball. Man, that ball. Hey, have you ever seen a professional tennis match? I go to the Miami Open every year.

I know what it looked like. Bro. Listen, do you know, I'm my hidden partner. I go to the Miami open every year. I know what it looked like, bro Listen, do you know I'm my hidden partner? I'm Chris Eubanks hidden partner Like I said, are you with all the days that they want? I'm Chris Eubanks hidden partner The fact that I know what it looks like I can return You're not going to I can do all that I mean you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to you wouldn't have been able to hit a return Venus of Serena let

alone to me. Man. I'm talking man. Listen man. So you really you disrespect me. Oh, just respect my skill man. No no no no you over evaluating your skill. I'm not over evaluating because I I train and I practice with the pros. That's what you fail to realize. No, they're okay. Okay. Do you realize how many people that played sports that didn't crossover?

Like you got two, you got three, you got both. You got Deon, you got Brian Jordan. You ain't never seen nobody play professional football and basketball. You'll never see nobody play. Whoa, I played professional play professional football and basketball. You'll never see nobody play. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I play professional soccer and football. Hey, you know what I'm thinking about? Like I'm thinking about, you know, the presidency.

I'm thinking about the two people who are running that we have to choose from. And I always thought, obviously, I'm really not into politics as heavy as I'd like. I have family members that are. Don Lemon, we're related, he's into politics really good. Mark Lamont, Anthony Hill, he's another cousin of mine. He's really into politics. But I would love to represent the people. You know that? And it's probably, I'm not the right person to do so,

but I would just love to be in that position of power, you know, to be the president. Like, cause you imagine what I could do. You know, if I was in the highest seat, can you can you imagine the changes I would make, you know, when we talk about someone representing and being for the people like that's me, like I live by that, like I really live it. I don't talk it like, you know, part of being part of politics is talking and selling a dream, getting people to actually vote for you. But what the people need is somebody that like me that actually, you know,

talk the talk and actually walks it. I'm really like that. Like I could just imagine my, my, I just, when it's time for me to give a speech, you know, and I, and I started my speeches with, you know, for the American people, I just want you to know I fucking love you. And then I would get into whatever the topics are at hand. Like I just, I would just be perfect for that, you know? I'm just, I just thought about that just after watching that ad and I don't know, man. Damn. No. The thing the thing is Ocho you got a lot of being politics and you say you're gonna be for the people but the thing is that you need those big donors

that go on the campus. So what you think they wanna return? What you think they wanna return? Oh yeah, I got them, I got them. I got them, one hand him. I got him. One hand, broke the other, man. You got it. I understand the political game very well, man. But this is the problem. The people don't understand it. I don't think the people understand it. Now I'm not now we're not gonna make this a political

goddamn debate because this is nightcap. Not Fox News or CNN, but you know, I'm gonna let that be. We'll say that for another date and another, yeah, yeah. I can get into it. I can get into a good. I ain't gonna do that. Uncle Ocho, love the show. Uncle, do you think you could do 225 for more ref than Ocho could do 185?

Do you think you could do 225 on the bench for more ref than Ocho could do 185? Why why would he discredit me and put me at 185 when I could do 225 as well? What is he trying to say? But you only gonna do it for one rep. So he's trying to give you an advantage 225 I could do 225 27 times. What did you talk about? Ocho I tell you what I'd be willing to do. I put up a million dollars say you can't do it 20 oh Run me my money. You're gonna run me my money. No chance This is what people fail to do people always have an eye test people always use the visual

Listen to me stay with me now, baby People always use the visual and look at something and say you got a t-shirt on you got a t-shirt on you got a t-shirt I don't know for the that. His frame is small. He should be able to do this. You got a t-shirt on up under that? Yeah. Take it, take that off. Let me show the people. Yeah, I know. Hey, y'all ladies don't be looking at me now. Yeah. Yeah. Let me come up at this thing. Let me come up at this thing. Yeah, you see that? Look at that, look at that.

I do. I just look like this. I just look like this. I have a small frame, but I'm strong. You ain't doing no 225. How you gonna tell me and I've done it? I've done 225 27 times. No.

I just look like this. Hey, pull up, pull up, Ocho. I'll tell you what we can do. We can pull up what you did at the combine. What is the combine? What's the combine? Ain't got nothing to do with it. You talking about right now.

Ocho, first of all, this is how I know you can't do 227. Because when you went to the combine, that was your op, hold on. I didn't even lift. Let me finish, let me finish. The combine was when you're on the job interview. You were gonna be at your absolute best.

You're gonna be at your fastest. You're gonna be at your best because that's the job interview. You don't even lift like that anymore. I'm not so sure you could do 225.5 times. I didn't even lift weights at the combine. All I needed to do was run my 40 and run routes. Once they saw my routes, that was it.

That sealed the deal. That's how I know you can't do 225, 27 reps. Talk about now. Talk about now. Now if you said you'd do 185 like 10 times, I'd say, oh, you might get there. No, no, no, no. You might get there.

I'm very strong despite my frame. I am extremely strong. So if you might get that. You might get that. I'm very strong despite my frame. I am extremely strong. So if you wanna put that million dollars, make sure you stand on business by that million dollars too. Mill. I'ma do a video when I get back to Miami tomorrow. No, you ain't gonna do no video. I'ma be there.

Bring your million with you. I don't need no video. I need to be there. What? I don't need no video. Wait, wait. I don't need no video. No, no. I'ma video it so you can see. I don't need no video. I don't need no video. No, no. I'm a video it so you can see.

I don't need no video. I don't need no video. I'm gonna be right there in your presence. I'm gonna bring a million dollar cash. You bring yours. You put it right there. Wait, what I'm taking a million out for? Cause you gonna put, you bet me a million.

Nah, you said you bet the money. You bet the money. Put up. I'm putting up a million. You put up a million. So I'm walking away with two million. You walking away with two million. You know what? I'm a million for me and a million for Real. You know, we appreciate that. Happy holidays.

Yeah. I tell Real to put up a million too because I got a cover on too. So it's two million. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, I like that too. It's cold in Philly, man. He put my jacket. I might I might I might I might with two million with two million dollars. I might find me somebody then. You already got somebody. She done donated you $2,000. Hey, well, guess what? And her

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