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The Jags defeat the Brown 30.
40 to 10 the brows.
The brous of who we thought they are.
They ain't no, if you thought anything different,
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Sean Watson threw an interception on his first drive
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He was sacked five times and the Browns committed 11 penalties.
Hey, it's tough, Unk.
It's tough.
It's tough.
Hey, Uncle Joe, I said it, chat.
I said it before the season even started.
I knew they were going to name DeShan Watson the starter.
And at least for him being the starter was going to be short.
It was going to be short before they had to play that first game at home.
I said when they start the season, you got to be one in one before you're going into week three.
So it's imperative that they win this next game.
They're playing Tampa.
If I'm not mistaken, they got to win that game at Tampa.
They got to win that game at Tampa.
They got to win.
Tampa or they making the change in a quarterback position.
Why?
Why?
Why are you making a change?
Two weeks into the season, Joe.
If, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if,
if, if, if, if, if he's not your future, why would you even start it?
You know why.
You know why?
You know why?
You know why.
We're going to get a $46 million dollar man to change.
To do what?
To see if he's that.
I, p.
What?
go do joe good man come on man we we know what going on stop playing hey i i know what's going on
i told you what to play well before the play even happened look i ain't i ain't jacksonville
looked like a team that picked up what he left off last year okay oh joe yeah i got Trevor
lawrence on my damn fantasy team boy when i'm talking about somebody showing up and showing out
that means that means in order to play trevor lawrence you got a bitch that prescott are you willing
to do that yeah
But that's a story for another day.
Oh, Joe.
When you got quarterback, you got to make tough decisions.
I get that.
Listen, it's not a tough decision.
That's more common sense and knowledge of the game.
If the Jack, their Jaguars are playing the Browns,
and Dak is playing the New York Giants,
which is a division opponent,
which will always be a tough game.
I'm going with Trevor Lawrence as my quarterback.
Everything.
It don't always work out like that, though, Ocho.
Yo, it worked out exactly how it worked out.
Just how I said.
Joe, hey, let me help you with your finish.
I don't need no help, bro. I'm good.
I'm good. I'm good.
But, yeah.
But I don't get this.
And I know, Joe, you're probably right.
They're probably going to make it.
If they lose the tab, but they're probably going to make a change.
But I don't get it.
I don't know why you're making a change.
I don't know why.
Future.
If your future is not, if Deshaun Watson is not in your future,
why is he playing?
Oh, we paying him $46 million.
Unless he wins the Super Bowl, you can't get it back.
The only way Deshawn Watson can fulfill this contract
is to get Cleveland to the Super Bowl and they win it.
That is the only way he can fulfill that.
Do you think that's possible, Ocho?
With Sean Watson playing quarterback
and the weapons that he have offensively,
do you think they're good enough to get to and win the Super Bowl?
No. Okay. No.
But hey, the football gods will have to be on their side, every game.
Hey, but hey, look, look, but the fans going to have something to say about all this.
Okay, Ocho, they're going to have something to say.
They're going to have something to say.
I believe it.
I believe it.
But I just don't, it's just going to, it's just going, it's, look, Cleveland is just bad.
And I just feel, I feel bad for the fans because they show up every week knowing that there's
limited chance that they're going to win a football game.
They show up every week knowing that there's really no realistic chance that they're going to make the playoffs.
And they show up and they sell that stadium out and they tailgate and they've been loyal for 50 damn years.
Yeah.
And they got close in the 80 where Bernie Coles are.
And then they had the binder fumble and they had the fumble and stuff and all that kind of stuff.
But the last, the last since 1990, they ain't really had no realistic chance.
No.
None.
None.
Here's Todd Munkin on whether he'll stick with Deshawn Watson as a starting quarterback in week two.
Watch you say something, PC.
I'd rather just talk about today, because I haven't had time to even look at the tape.
I mean, I'm sure as hell not firing me.
I'm not firing our staff.
I'm not giving up all of our players.
So he happens to be one of 53, and however many practice squad guys we got and our staff, he's one of that.
So we'll evaluate everything.
But to just say that emotionally here at the end,
when we're, you know, I mean, we just didn't play good enough.
It didn't coach well enough.
It sound good, you know.
I know you got 53.
You have your practice squad players,
but when we come to evaluating,
giving you your best chance to win,
you always evaluate the person who's going to have the ball in their hands the most.
And that's always the person at the quarterback position.
He gives you your best chance to win.
If the person who has the ball and control of the ball the most,
doesn't give you your best chance to win.
You have no choice but to make a change.
But if you don't make a change,
then therefore your neck is on the lap.
Your job is on the lap.
And his leash is probably short.
No, it's not because they put it,
because they're the one they told him to start to Sean.
And, hey, hey.
Didn't they tell Mr.
Staponsky?
From the math?
No, from the math.
Oh, Nico Harrison.
Didn't they tell him the trailer?
And what they did to him.
No, Nico Harris.
It's Harris, right, Ocho?
Joe, not Harrison, Harris.
They told him to go through and gave him the green light
to make the trade for Luca.
They turned around and did what to him.
Fired him.
Come on, you.
Yeah.
Come on now.
I'm not telling you what I heard.
I'm telling you what I know.
It's Harrison.
Nico Harrison.
Yeah, they fired him.
Yes.
I think Todd Monkin knows that he's going to have to, you know,
make a change at some point, Uncle Ocho.
That's why he's never going to give a definite answer as far as who's going to start the following week
because he knows at some point they're going to have to cut ties, bro.
He knows that.
Yeah, I told you what them ties going to come.
Don't let them win this game this upcoming week again, Tampa Bay,
and watch what having week three for their first home game in Cleveland.
What you're saying?
Oh, okay, okay.
Oh, wait, this is this hand.
If you're Cleveland,
How do you win a ball game
when you commit 11 penalties
and turn the ball over twice?
I just want to know how you win a ball game.
No.
On the road, too.
Cleveland, they got to be damn their perfect, guys.
Like you said, you're on the road.
You got to, first of all, even at home,
they're going to have to be damn their perfect.
Or the other team is going to have to be
more imperfect than they are.
But on the road, your first cup of throw,
you throw a pick.
Come on, man.
Y'all know what momentum does, bro.
Especially being the home team, they feed off of that.
You get them going, ain't no slowing them down.
Yeah, look at Trevor Lawrence out there looking like a young John L.
way the way he was out there throwing that thing.
I'm talking about I said, some of the throws that that boy was throwing today.
And he wasn't playing, man.
That boy looked good out there today.
Joe, if you just started Trevor Lawrence, you don't want.
Yeah.
Hey, you know, you know what to?
I'm not a quarterback.
I'm not a quarterback.
I'm not a quarterback, Joe.
I'm not a quarterback, but I do know as a quarterback, right?
When you take your drop, whether you're under center
or whether he in the gun, you can't stare down and you receive them.
I know you can't do that because middle linebacker is following your eyes.
So wherever you are at, all he doing is all right with your eyes at.
That interception was, it was easy for the backup.
Man, when you take that drop, man, look straight down the middle of the field.
You can use your periphery, you know what a man going to be at.
And at the last minute, then you look and you make that.
You sound surprised.
Come on, man.
What you are, you an aunt say,
come on, man, what are you talking about?
Y'all sound surprised that they're having.
This is what we've been looking at through training camp.
This is what we've been looking at doing the preseason.
Come on, man.
Oh, we're supposed to change because the popcorn were popping a day.
No, sir, Reebok.
I mean, but he's been playing,
you've been playing a lot of football night.
Not lately.
Hold on, hold on.
That's quarterback 101.
You learned at the beginning.
When you take it drop down the field,
ass down the field to be able to hold everybody defensively where they are.
Because wherever you look, all the defense does is shame.
Whoever doesn't have a threat, they'd shade where'd you ask them.
Oh, Cho, but if I ain't played meaningful football,
then I don't know how many, you know, how many years,
am I first you get out there?
I'm going to make a few mistakes that's not routine.
Huh?
What are we talking about?
All right.
Well, you know, a mistake, mistakes, mistake costing your job, Joe.
he don't have that much of a leash to be able to make to make the mistakes right now
and I say I said the pressure was going to be on that because now he's going to press
he's going to press a tough situation to be in and look what happens to do
situation to be in okay Ocho to have to have to really really put up you know on the
road against tough teams like man it's good look you got to understand tap and bay just
coming off a lot so you know they're going to come they home open them come on man
they'll be they're going to get it you know they're going to get Cleveland
everything they're looking for.
Damn.
So does he get,
does he gets what does Todd Muckin give him
one more week?
Yes.
For sure.
Guarantee.
Guarantee.
Over two out of the hole,
we're going to make sure to see them
to get away from us.
Don't get away from it.
It might be gone already.
It don't matter who back that quarterback,
huh?
You just, it don't.
You just got to feel, you just got to play
these 17 games.
It is.
It is what it is.
Some people just got bad juju.
That's what it seemed like for real.
That's really what it seemed like.
Because everybody else seemed to be able to find a quarterback.
New Orleans looks like they find their quarterback with Tyler shook.
Seems like everybody can find a quarterback.
They settle on that guy.
The Giants seem like they got their guy with Jackson Dart.
Shoulder come in and plays okay.
The last half, he comes back like, oh yeah, I just need to.
Hey, just build on build on the most.
middle that I got last year.
Back to the bitch, you go, son.
We'll see.
The Vikings stunned the Packers, 3922.
The question was always about Calamari and staying healthy.
The answer is, oh, Cho, now you want to listen to me?
What did I tell you?
Yeah.
What, staying healthy, huh?
Calamari got.
I was with you when you was right.
I'm with you when you're right, huh?
Out of the game.
Three or five, 18 yards of the time.
touchdown.
He was Kevin O'Connell on Calimer's injury.
I met the injury to Kyle to Kyle was pretty scary in the initial stages.
Yeah.
What he was like afterwards and now.
Yeah, when I got out there, you know, I don't necessarily want to comment on, you know,
but by the time I got out there, he was, you know, he was, you know, he was, you know,
he was, you know, totally, you know, conscious and talking and they were just going through the normal evaluations.
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seemed to be doing pretty well but uh once again i wouldn't medically quote me on that we'll see
you know i'll keep you guys posted um as i get more information
um hey thank i mean if he was conscious by the time you got there why wouldn't you want
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Oh, about what you saw.
Because when he got out there, there's a better than 50% chance that he wasn't conscious when you got out there.
Or barely conscious.
He's just, he's a very small man.
It's hard to be a franchise anything if you can't stay healthy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's his problem.
We're not talking about set ability aside.
We know he has the ability.
But don't you?
I can't.
How do you be franchised and you can't stay on the field?
Yeah.
You got,
he got a slide early.
Yeah.
He went to the very last minute.
Bro, you know you ain't but a buck 95.
Yeah, you got a slide early.
Yeah.
That's tough.
So how long do you think he out, huh?
We got a quarterback controversy.
Hello.
Hello.
Did you not see walking to him coming there and did what he did?
Yes, sir.
You got a quarterback controversy.
Yeah.
Wait, you say who came in?
Wins.
Carson wins.
Carson wins.
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, we know what he can do.
We've seen him do it before.
It's about him doing it.
Can he do it consistently?
Can he do it consistently week in and week out?
I mean, he came in and ain't miss a beat.
Yeah.
Oh, Joe.
12 or 19, 133 yards, three touchdowns.
Yeah, but the only problem for wins.
His problem, his issue has been, is he to have a week like this,
and then he'll disappear to follow.
He has a hard problem.
He has a healthy himself.
Yeah, he's another one.
I think this is a good thing.
This is a good thing about wins being a quarterback is it makes your job so much easier.
When he's supporting cats around you, makes you look better.
Yes.
When you have Hawkinson, we have Addison, we have, hell.
I mean, 1A, 1B, one of the best receivers in the NFL, it makes your job really easy.
Oh, you got to do a facility without turning the ball.
Man.
Green Bay had this game.
Okay, Ojo.
Yes.
Excuse me, you up 22 to 10.
You're supposed to A.
And the other team lose a star and quarterback.
Come on, bro.
You know, Carson Wins came in.
Jefferson got going.
It was a rap.
You get Jefferson out there doing their gritty.
Huh?
Carson Wiss got him going.
So I'm like, oh, yeah, we do got a QB contract.
Yeah.
You're not a quarterback controversy.
You're talking about how long you're going to be out?
He might not.
What happened last time he left because of the injury?
Tell the people at home what happened when he was in Arizona.
He got injured.
And the guy came in.
What happened?
Loss his job.
He never got back.
Hey, hey,
tonight, them folks go 29 straight points, Ocho.
Yeah.
Listen, Joe, I'm with you when you're right.
And we talked about it before.
He has to stay healthy.
You talk about,
You're talking about Kyla or you talk about Kyla, right?
I'm talking about Kyle.
Yeah.
Well, hell, hold on.
Not even that.
She had Carson Wood's got to stay healthy too now.
Ocho.
It's just hard for me to believe that Cala can stay healthy at that size.
Hmm.
I'm just based, it's already, I mean, I have my doubts.
I didn't doubt that he was, he could play in this league.
My doubt was his ability to stay healthy being that small of a man.
And you know who else is small too, but stays healthy fairly most of the time.
Baker makes feel him, even though he's a little bit more sturdier.
And people talking about with Drew Reeves wasn't a big, you didn't see Drew,
most of the time when Calimer has gotten hurt, what was he doing, Ocho?
Right.
Just people at home what he was doing.
Running.
Run it.
Okay.
Every time.
How many times you see Drew Reeves running?
Never.
You know why?
Because when you run the ball, they can treat you like a running back.
Running back, yeah.
Quarterbacks ain't built to take part of it's been like a
If you Josh Allen you came that's different by yeah you six five you know you two 55 two 60
Bro were you five eight five nine and you may maybe maybe two hundred maybe
May he might not even two hundred though
Hey if you the Vikings I mean if you the packers though you sick you sick by the night
okay Ocho yes yeah you felt you should have won this game bro
You had the game in control.
Jordan Love was 21 or 42, 337, two touchdowns.
He had a pick.
Christian Watson, six for a buck 47 and two touches.
Matthew Golden, six for 95.
Tucker Kraft, just signed a new contract.
Congratulations, young fella.
Three for 65.
John News Smith, two for 50.
Yeah.
But then you let Jeddah eight for 92, two touches.
T.J. Hawkinson, four for 36, a touch.
Man.
Yeah,
he jettif was at there
cutting, boy.
He just happened
he got somebody
that can get him
to football.
There he go.
He ain't got no
favorite.
Obviously,
all things being equal,
he's like,
I kind of,
I did kind of like
old first cousin
because first cousin
Kevin fat.
First cousin
Kevin fat,
Ocho.
Oh, yeah.
He's surgery.
A cousin's surgical
with that ball,
man.
He's surgical.
Yeah,
it's just.
I just don't, I just don't, I just don't know.
Everybody keep talking about go back and play baseball.
Man, he ain't hit a baseball in so long, man.
Hey, I got a question.
So y'all think it's, uh, might be a rap for Kyla?
No, he's going to try to play again.
You're going to play again.
But I'll tell you what,
whatever, what, what wins did today,
created a quarterback controversy.
Absolutely.
Now, Uncle, you might say created a, uh,
quarterback controversy, but what will happen when Kyle is healthy and ready to go again,
he will be.
He's undefeated, Ocho.
I don't give it that.
The question is, we talk about being healthy.
He was fully healthy.
He was fully healthy and he didn't get his job back with Jacobi Brouset.
Yeah.
Hold on.
You know, he was on the way out the door, which is why he didn't even say none.
You knew he was out.
You know he was on the way up.
You know he was on the way up.
You know he was on the way up?
You know he was going to resign him next year?
Hold on.
You think, you think the verdict is out on him already after,
One week.
Are they going to resign him next year?
He signed a one-year deal.
He didn't sign a multiple-year deal.
Hold on.
Listen, when you signed a one-year deal,
you know what that one-year means, right?
That one year to prove it.
Nah, we're not going to knock everything off the table
because he got hurt a week one.
Let's see when he gets back.
What do is the remaining in the season?
How did he get the job back?
He going to get it back?
I'm telling you he going to get it back.
You told me last year he was going to get back.
No, hold on.
Wait, listen.
You think it like us.
Like us, if we were in the position to be able to be able to,
to say, you know what, we going with wins
because of the way he looked today.
I'm thinking like how they're thinking
on the quarterback that they told who's the starter.
Think about this.
Russell Wilson, when he's with Pittsburgh, right?
And Justin Fields came in and led them boys to what,
but they were four and three when Russell Wilson was healthy.
Who went back and it was also on a one-year deal?
Yeah, Russell got the-
same.
Yeah, they're going to put him back in there.
Now, when he gets back in there,
it's going to be his job to lose again.
I think it's going to be more difficult for him
to get that job back.
I'm with you.
I'm with you on.
I'm not saying,
I'm not saying that he won't,
but I'm saying that it's going to be difficult
for to get a job back.
Especially with,
they were dead in the water, Ocho.
Yeah, they were flouting around.
And walking to him came in there
and he laid him like,
Joe said, 29 straight points.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he looked good.
I'm talking about I was done.
First pan.
Big thing.
Even if he gets the job back,
Ocho, what is his history shown you?
How are you gonna get up?
Damn!
How many times you, we've seen this movie.
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Jenna goes eight for 82 and two touchdowns.
Oh, jealous.
Damn.
That's one.
That's one thing, boy.
As a receiver, too, I'm in Joe.
You want to get off to a fast start like this.
Yeah.
You got that good 90, you know, next week, have another good game.
Yeah.
And just building, just keep on stacking.
Yeah.
Man, Lou Wayne is upset.
He really upset about his Packers.
He said, my Johnson too big for shortcomings.
And this sucks.
And he said, I can't respect the game when the ref can't.
ref the game.
I'm out on the NFL this year.
Wish it was amazing season for all.
Riffs in Minnesota.
Pure hoo-ha.
Well, he feels like they got holes.
Yeah.
He felt the ref put that meat on him.
Oh, man.
Oh, Paul.
Paul.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
That, man, hey, man,
we, we're crazy about that, what you call him?
He's crazy about the packers, man.
Damn.
He was looking good early too, boy.
Yeah, yeah.
And then when they knock, I said,
well, hey, I said they don't got this one.
Yeah, Jordan Love,
and he was throwing that thing around the yard.
Damn, boy, they're going to run them boys up out of there.
Yeah, hey, hey, Joe, I was like,
oh, yeah, they got this one.
They're, Kyle of them gone, walking to,
but see, the thing is, is that, you know that,
game when the backup comes in, Ocho Joe, Joe.
We ain't practiced for him.
We practicing for a guy that's going to scramble around,
run around, blah, blah, blah, make plays.
And then walking to him,
stand back in the pocket and was picking you apart.
Hey, that's what I was thinking was going to happen
when he came in anyway, Uncle Ocho.
I ain't going to lie.
I was thinking, like, man, watch this dude
coming here and ball out.
You know what I mean?
I ain't going to lie.
Now, I ain't know he's going to get 29 straight points.
But when he got in, he didn't look like he was nervous or nothing.
He went straight to work.
I was done.
I'm talking about, I said, damn.
And then when I seen him got Justin Jeff
and going, I said, oh yeah, the gritty than came out.
Oh, yeah, them boys ain't playing.
The only thing that concerns me about walking to him
is because he did what he did,
the E-X, P, C-T-T-A-T-T-I-O-N.
Expectations.
You know what comes, hey, it's just like a guy,
the guy goes down on Joe,
and the guy comes off the bitch,
and he gets 25,
yeah.
Now they expect him to give me 25 a night.
And you can, hey, hey, hey, hey.
And you can't tell him nothing neither.
He come off the bench, you're doing him.
You can't tell him nothing.
Hey, hey, what you keep calling, Winsk?
Walking to what?
Because when he was a feeling he was dealing,
obviously skil for Cowboys fan,
I was with Eagles for the Eagles.
And I nicknamed me walking to him
because it's like a, he was throwing them dives
like a long hand off.
He was walking it to him.
And he was feeling winning MVP one year too.
To he tore his knee up in LA.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah, so, hey, hey, look, I bet you wins.
He's happy he got an opportunity.
I mean, I know he probably didn't want to see Kyle go out like that, but when you're
backup like wins who've been in the league for a minute and then had real opportunity
to want a Super Bowl, obviously he didn't, he didn't play a major part in winning the
Super Bowl because Nick Fos, the backup came in and wanted, but, you know, him get an opportunity
to play with this offense.
Okay, Ojo, shh.
Well, I know that boy happy boy, got some mean weapons out there.
though. Oh yeah for sure. Yeah you do.
No, I, look, I'm not happy
but I, hey, Joe,
I got to take my opportunity how it comes. That's all
I'm saying. That's all I'm
saying. Hey, if I'm hungry
and I'm driving up, man,
look at that, somebody just ran over and killed
a deer. Let me throw him in the back old pickup.
I take him out of how
and get it, Joe. Yeah. Hey,
you get a guy go down? Hey, look
man, it's unfortunate, but guess what? We need
somebody else to step up, bro.
This is your opportunity.
This is your opportunity.
This is your opportunity.
Now he's probably gonna be out for a couple weeks.
You step in and do your thing
now you can get in the rotation.
And this is how it go, bro.
This is how opportunity is coming.
When you leave, when you, when you get hit
like what Kyle got hit and you see that arm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Go rigid.
That's, yeah.
Well, we know he's gonna miss at least a week, Ojo.
Oh yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Probably bearing on the side of caution,
multiple weeks.
I agree.
Because what happened, the last guy we saw
go rigid like that,
they played him on a Thursday night.
He got hit again and what?
Did I put him out for five, six weeks now?
Yeah.
Five six weeks, yeah.
So probably more time than not,
they're going to err on the side of caution
in this situation.
And then, let's just say for the sake of argument,
they, by the time he comes back,
they won four games, they won five games.
He didn't get that job back, Coach.
Yeah, no.
But see, that's the perfect scenario, though.
Now, let's understand.
Let's understand.
Let's remember who Carson Wince is.
Let's understand why Carson Wince has bounced around from team to team
because he can have games like he had the day,
where those expectations set in and he doesn't meet him.
He doesn't play consistent enough.
He plays consistent football in spurs.
Listen, I'm hoping he plays where.
I'm not sure who the Vikings have next week.
I'm hoping he continues to play well.
I just know if Kyler is out for a substantial amount of time,
you know, three to four weeks or something like that,
which I don't think it would be out that long.
And Carson Wins plays well, then, yes, maybe, you know,
Carson Wins might keep the job,
but I just don't see him being out that while.
And I don't see him playing consistent enough long term for them to make that decision.
Like you said, history, that's just based off history.
can see Carson Williams being solid Uncle Ocho.
He ain't got to go out there and be Superman, Ocho.
He got some good weapons he can use.
They got a good defense.
It ain't like he got to go out there and win games.
Yeah, he just got to get it to them playmakers they got.
Ocho, but you make it seem like he just holds like Calamara come back.
Calamari been like that, his whole career.
You make it seem like he holding, he holds a spot down for, for, for.
You know, they know they had a quarterback competition, right?
No, they didn't.
Before the decision was made
or who was going to be the start,
he was coming in on the one-year deal.
He beat out Carson.
What you think Carson wins on?
Hold on, one year.
Carson wins.
That wasn't no quarterback
competition.
Really the quarterback competition
was between J.J.
McCarthy and Kyle Murray.
Carson went.
Absolutely.
That was the competition, don't you?
That was a competition.
No.
Why am I having a
Why am I having a copy?
You said now the one guy we traded the number 10 pick.
He's the number 10 pick in the draft.
We took the guy that was the number one overall pick.
But you said the competition was between the backup
that's been a backup for the last five years
and the guy that we just signed.
You said that was the quarterback competition
and not J.J. McCarthy?
Absolutely.
Because you know they bought somebody in because J.J. McCarthy wasn't the answer.
There was no quarterback competition, period.
There's a reason why it's the third straight.
Yes.
I told you he would be third string.
I say I recommend that they traded him.
Trade, excuse me, not trading him.
They traded him.
Yeah, I knew it was going to be third string too.
I mean, but that's need to.
We were right.
But I always thought the competition was between Kyle and Ocho,
he's the number one overall pick in the draft.
Do you know how many officers?
That's another reason that walking to him still in the lead.
He was the number two pick in the draft.
Do you know how many chances those guys are going to get?
Josh Johnson, how many
Josh Johnson has been on 12 teams.
14, my bad, 14.
You know how many chances
quarterbacks get Ocho?
All you got to do is just keep your nose clean,
don't get no trouble, don't cause no,
keep your job, get your job.
That's all you got to do.
But we're going to find out.
We'll find out.
But I think he's going to be out
for at least somewhere between two to four weeks.
Oh, and they put what you call him on, oh, AJ Brown.
How many weeks I told you he was going to miss, Joe?
Okay.
They said how many he was going to miss?
He'll injure.
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Ochoo, the Bengals, defeat the Buccaneers, 33, 27.
Ocho, thought your bingo's going to let this one slip away.
They dominated 21, 3 until late in the second half.
Joe Burroughs, 254 and an interception.
He had a touchdown also.
Chase two catches, 12 yards.
Ocho, go ahead.
They double chase all game.
That's fine.
It's okay.
T. Higgins stepped up, had some big catches,
especially on third down,
keep some drives going.
Keseki, he had a good game.
Joe, listen, you want to minimize the turnovers,
but the defense played so well.
Uncle Joe, what did I tell you?
We made improvements on what side of the ball?
There was a time we couldn't stop a nosebleed.
But this year, even though it got a little scary,
even though it got a little scary on the back end,
because I think we played a little too conservative in that second half,
we ended up winning the game.
But Zach Taylor, please, I beg of you, I implore you.
to continue the step on next when we have leads.
Please, I beg of you to do that.
Defense, they play lights out.
They cause four turnovers.
I think out of those four turnovers,
I think we got points on almost everyone,
if I'm not mistaken.
You got a scoop and score.
Yeah, scoble and score.
Hey, remember what I told you about,
Demetri's night?
Remember what I was talking about Demetri's night?
Hey, Unger, Joe, he's the second year.
Young Bull all over the place.
When you watch him, when you watch safe on them,
you know, 20,
20 what is we call it up 21 21 all 22 all 22 boy joe he all over the place like you got 11
people on the field playing defense right but for the reason he pops out on film every single
time and he showed up today he showed a big time man defense they played really well against the
run against the past obviously they they were a bin but a been but don't break defense today
i i enjoy it i enjoy i'm very happy i'm very happy with the way we look today
Very happy.
Now, offense, we got to get going, Uncle Joe.
We got to get going.
Take care of it.
Oh, Joe.
Baker single-handedly gave this game to the Bengals.
How many he had?
He's going in for a touchdown.
He's going to the score.
He fumble, Ocho, touchback.
He got to scumble, scoop and score.
He fumbled late in the game.
I'm like, bro, what are you doing?
Yeah.
Trying to make, he, he's trying to make plays.
Bro, you're not Josh Allen.
You not.
You know what hurts me?
When a guy make a mistake and they look up at the jumbo trial.
You effed up.
You don't need to look up and see it.
You did it.
Oh, that, bud, oh, they tried.
I don't know what it is, Joe.
It's just something about it just irk, burn, just irks me.
And the chat, y'all know what I'm talking about.
Every time somebody mess up something, the first thing they do,
they look up at the board.
Yeah.
What you're looking for?
They in disbelief.
They try to make shit.
Damn.
They're trying to see where everybody came from.
I felt like I was free.
I didn't feel like nobody was around me.
You know, you look at a jumbo trom.
If you carried the ball, first of all,
you're not used to running with the ball like that.
Put the ball away.
Look, and plus he got, look,
I don't want to beat him up too much
because he got a flap jacket on.
So you know what I'm saying,
Ocho, so instead of being tight to your body,
it's like this right here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You get a flap jacket away.
But you got to hold on to the ball.
Yeah, hey, Ocho, boy, if y'all defense can consistently create these, you know, turnovers.
Yeah, create turnover.
That way so Burrow, he and he don't have to come out and feel like he got to,
he got to throw three, four touchdowns.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
You got to take some stress out for them.
If y'all defense can continue to do that, I don't know if y'all can, you know,
if they can continue to do that, boy, y'all can be all right.
Yeah, we're going to be great.
I just know the offense, the offense wasn't the offense today.
It's okay.
It's okay.
I know we made plays here and there, but the offense, if we had four turnovers,
I'm expecting 21 points at them turnovers.
I know we got field goals.
I think we got seven out of one, obviously the scoop and score.
But offensively, we got the final way.
We got to get Chase going.
We're playing the Texans this week coming up.
Chase is going to stay.
They're going to force feed him.
They're going to get him going because for the best receiver in the NFL right now,
There's no reason he should have two cats
it for 12 yards. I don't care if they're trying to stop
in the whole game. You find ways
to involve him in that system. You find ways
because I know he was frustrated.
And he wearing that sea on the chest
so you know he can't show no emotion.
You can't do nothing.
You got to take that one.
Listen, that's part of the game playing,
Ocho, try to keep the ball out of that young man's hand.
Yeah, getting frustrated. That's what I'm trying to do.
That's what I try to do with any number one receiver.
I'm a double his ass early.
I don't want you to touch the ball
because I know if they give it to you,
you early, they got you late.
Nah, I want,
I want you to struggle early
so you can question late.
Yeah, hey,
you want to go on to the sideline
taking his helmet out, throwing it out.
That's what I won't.
That's what I won't.
I want to throw a Gatorade.
I want to,
I want to,
I want to talk it to his teammates, man.
You know,
with Chase,
he,
he don't,
he's a,
he's,
all you got to do is watch his body names.
And it lets him how he feel.
He's not,
he's not like a,
a Des Bryant.
A T.O.
You know, when they're not getting the ball,
oh, they're going to let you know.
Yeah.
Oh, they're going to let you know.
What they're doing?
They're going up to the quarterback, don't you?
What?
No.
They're on the phone.
They're going to the O.C.
Oh.
Hey, they on the phone.
Hey, man.
What are we doing?
I mean, what you see?
I see everything.
What you see?
I see y'all not throwing me the ball.
I see that.
Hey, well, I tell you one thing.
in Houston this weekend this Sunday, you know.
Hey, Joe, they're from the force feed that boy, that ball.
It's just the way football works in general.
You're going to have games like this.
You don't want week one to start off like this.
But when the number one has a week like this, Joe,
them first 15 scripted plays, why six of them things going on that.
Hey, hold on, hold on, you don't want to have a week one like this.
Yeah, y'all won the game.
What you're ready?
You rather have 15 catches in a loss or you'd rather have the dub with two catches.
Which one?
Joe, don't try to use that reverse.
What would you rather have?
Tell me what you rather have.
Hey, I want to win.
I won't catchers, but give me to win.
Yeah, I'm, hey, I'm reaching when you're right, Joe,
but we need to get our number one player going.
I ain't trying to hear all that now.
I hear you, though.
I'm just saying, damn.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Baker Mayfield was 23 or 28, 216, 0 touchdowns.
He was sack four times, but he,
he foaming the ball three times.
Baker also had a costly phone,
forming the ball in the end zone,
a whole load of that,
they look like about the score,
because they look like they're,
and they only lost by six points.
You turn the ball over,
you're minus three in the turnover battle,
and you only lose by a touchdown.
He kicking himself on.
He just got that nice little contract too.
Hey, again, that's on us.
That's on us.
That's on us offensively.
I'm a joke.
Baker may feel I have technical difficulties for his early struggles.
Let's take a list of what he had to say.
No, we had some headset issues for quite a while, in and out.
Which is not an excuse, but when they're testing them on the sidelines and they work perfectly fine,
then you get out in between the hashes, then it's not working.
It's unfortunate, but it wasn't the whole time.
Just kind of first drive for sure and then sporadically throughout the rest of the game.
But, yeah, we need to give in and out of the huddle quicker.
How often has it happened to you?
That's the first time it was that bad.
Wait, say he couldn't hear something?
What?
Yeah, say the headset is going in and out.
The play coming into the headset.
That don't matter.
That wouldn't help.
Hold on.
Well, help me understand this, Ocho.
What does I got to do with the fumbles, though?
I don't need to hear them to the damn ball.
So you want to have got to tell you,
hold on to the ball, banker.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was no need to even mention that.
Yeah, he could have kept that one.
I didn't want to make no excuse me.
That's what it sounded like.
I didn't play well.
Hey, I know one thing.
They're going to have a bounce back week because you know who they plan.
Man, well, I'm hoping to Sean can get it done, boy.
Come on, man.
Joe, you ain't got no faith in him.
It ain't even about that.
I just think it's the situation that he's in, Ocho.
I just, it's hard to find any bright spots.
Like, I'm just trying to put myself in him.
his shoes. It's like, damn, boy, if I don't come out here and throw for about 3.30 here,
how are we going to win? We ain't, we can't. Hey, Joe, you heard what you just said. It's
hard for him to find any bright spots. He has to be the bright spot, Joe. He got to be the
bright spot. He has to be the one to elevate everybody around him because you don't have that
type of support in the cast that can elevate you. You got to find a way to go back in time
and be that Deshawn Watson and goddamn Houston. Now, obviously, it's been a very long,
time can he do it can he mustered up you know to bring that magic back you know one
game I I don't know no I'm just saying that that that rhythm that you have when you play
you know I think we're taking that for granted okay Ocho considering the fact that this young
man hadn't really played significant football or meaningful football in quite some time and I'm
quite sure he probably never been under this kind of damn pressure before ever it's like no
you know what I'm saying so to be able to think you
going to get the best out of him at this point.
I mean, you will hope so, but man,
this is trying times for that young man, bro.
This is what you got to think about too, Unger, Joe.
When Jashon Watson was at his best,
he was playing free.
I don't have nothing to worry about.
I didn't have any pressure outside of the pressure
of just being a quarterback and having to do what I do.
It's a different kind of pressure right now
because the expectations are on him.
But guess why he was able to play free?
Because he was playing good.
He's not playing good.
He put the pressure that he feels he plays to him
self by playing the way he's playing.
Yeah, I agree.
But whatever happened is happening.
Off the field is off the field.
But Ocho, he had played well on the field.
Hey, I would you be right?
I can't argue with you.
Sports is really, really simple.
When the results based business, results,
that's all we care about.
Results.
wins and losses.
Yes.
I don't want to hear about no headset.
What did the headset,
the reporter should have said, okay,
so you took off running,
you got the ball, you got a first down,
you're forming the ball in the end zone,
that's not a headset issue.
You get the strip sack from behind,
a scoop and score, that's not a headset issue.
The other situation, you get sacked,
you get it pulled out.
That's not a headset issue.
Bucky Irvin fumble the ball
that's not a headset issue
some things like when you lose
some things like you might think it
government times on show I know you're like
man man we got hoax that was a bad ass
call man we should
why go why go why go say that
because now it's going to make it seem like we lost
the game because of that call
yeah
we had been played well
we played ourselves back into the ball game
but I just I don't know
These guys, I just, it bothers me to these.
They got everything, Ocho, and they still come up with excuses.
I mean, they get breakfast, lunch and dinner.
You got a red light therapy bed, you got sauna, steam room, dip tanks, cold plunge.
Ocho, what is it that you don't have?
Massouds?
Yes!
Yeah.
Hey, I see you through that little joke in now.
I see, I see you, Joe.
That's a good one.
No, no, no, no.
Come on, man, you got a cheer.
You got a chill.
For real.
Yeah.
Yeah, Cowboys got everything out.
They still lay the egg, boy.
Oh, the Cowboys, oh, the Cowboys.
Oh, yeah, yeah, Joe.
Y'all, that was what you put on.
And y'all was the last performance.
And y'all was supposed to put your best off.
Because normally when you like, you go to comedy shows,
they put the best comedy shows.
normally they normally put the best comic at the end.
Yeah.
The headline, hell.
Yeah.
But you put the best.
They were the headlider.
You go to the place, the best,
whoever can sing the best, dance the best,
they normally at the end.
So they say, you know what?
Who we want to bring the curtain down the night?
Dallas Cowboys.
Hmm.
They put the curdie down.
All right.
We, come on, man.
We, we, we're not, we're not debate that.
Yeah.
I'm saying that why we,
That's why we playing last.
You're up with you the circus, Joe?
Yeah, I've been in the circuit before.
What elephant leave on the showground?
You already know where you live.
Damn.
That's what normally happened, Joe.
Yeah, y'all have y'all fun with this, man.
Y'all had y'all fun.
We're going to bounce back.
It's okay.
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