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Episode Date: July 9, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Bob Myers defending Jaylen Brown, Jaylen Brown and AJ Brown are cousins, Trae Young’s message, Tim Hardaway Sr. having change of heart, Terry Rozier gets bail conditions denied. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Bob Myers defended Jaylen Brown05:14 - Jaylen Brown and AJ Brown are cousins16:33 - Trae Young has a message for everyone20:34 - Tim Hardaway Sr had a change of heart23:41 - Judge denies Terry Rozier’s request to modify his bail conditions (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So how about analytics when they was in the finals and they played Luca and he did that job on Luca? How was those analytics? See, it seems like analytics only favor a guy when it comes to offense, but it doesn't look at nothing about defense. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad he said that. So I'm glad they did you have, because the nuances of the game, Ocho,

momentum, that's a nuance. Yes. We just turned the ball over. We lost momentum. They've scored this many points. Nuances. Oh, it's fourth and three. They said we should go for it.

Okay. Okay. But I'm, you know what? I'm glad Bob Myers, because I don't, damn me by analytics, man.

Well, I'm, I'm more of an eye test type of guy myself, Joe. I mean, I understand. Yeah, well,

I'm telling you. I think they're, there, there's, it's ruined the game. It has. It has, it has, oh,

Joe, it really has. Because people put so much value in, and they look at pro football focus, and they look at all these, all these numbers. I mean, pro football,

focus might not like Jerry. with all them shallow crosses and dig routes he was running. Hey. What your eyes tell you, man. Yeah. Which eyes tell you? It's the best thing. And there are other there are the measurables that that analytics can't measure.

Right. You absolutely right. And that's what that's that's that's how I'm looking at. But Clay look, uh, Clay and and and give, give Jalen Brown credit because he's taking a lot of time the best team, especially if he is a three or four or even a two of, He's taking the best and still giving you the production that he's giving you. Every night.

Every night. That's got to mean something. Man, he's taking the toughest offensive assignment every night, bro, and still coming out getting 20, 30 points. Come on, man. Yes. That's got to mean something. Oh, but he, but the hair, and the thing was,

it's like, well, let's just say for the sake of argument. and they talked about his analytics that they were up through the roof. I think he was top five, maybe two or three, whatever the case may be. If his, if his usage rate was 16,

like it was with Jason Tainum, are they the two seed? Are they even going to make the playoffs? So my question is, Joe, who else you want the ball, how to ball, other than J.B. Queda,

Hauser, Pritcher, Derek Go back Look at Derek White's numbers against Philly Go look at the numbers You want him with the ball and say? If J.B. doesn't do what he does

They're not making the playoffs But it was a blessing of a curse Mm-hmm He's like, oh, oh I can do this Hey, hey, ain't no turn it back. Hey, you heard him. Man say he felt like he came off his best

season. Ain't no turning back. Most fun he had. I think that was the Cudigra. Yeah. When they heard him say that, you're my best season. I ain't trying to go back and halve seasons like I had before. I'm trying to, I'm trying

to improve on this. You know, I had 29. I'm trying to get 3031. And they're like, well, how is this going to work with JT? Mm. And then they use everything. This man going to say here's the usage rate and two players. You're about to sign Yonis who usage rate is high as JBs. Guess what?

So Yonis and JT. Same high usage rate. Guess what? 70% of your cap tied up in two players. But that wasn't going to be a problem. You just say, look, guys, hey, we just, but he can't say that. But we know you can use that. We know it was more to it than that.

Thanks. Jalen Brown reveals his cousins, he's cousins with AJ Brown. Take a listen to this guy. What's crazy is that, uh, there's no such date with me. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that for my grandpa.

I don't think he'd know that even. His grandfather's brothers was my grandpa. That's why. That's why. Damn. Hey, that's dope. One guy shipped to Philly, the other got shipped the boston. Yeah, yeah, I was just going to say that.

That's dope, boy. That's dope. Damn. Hey, hey. I need to look up my, uh, hey, Joe, we might be related, Joe. Hell no, no, y'all. Oh, y'all, y'all. Oh, freak, oh, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, Joe, no. Let me, let me check my ancestry, Joe. Yeah. Ain't no damn, ain't no damn way, boy. Joe, Joe, Joe, oh, Johnson and Johnson. Yeah. Not what they call them Johnson to Johnson. Yeah.

It's a different, it's a, I'm a different Johnson for, Oh, Joe. Same one. No. Hey, Joe, we cut from the same cloth. Hey, they're on the same tree, just different limbs. They're on the same tree. Hey, that's it.

That's it. That's it. Hey, you know, I got some people down there. I told you about, but in a little. Chat, chat, they're trying to bambooz with me, chat. Listen, hey, look, I like you. I think you're a cool brother, you know, and then, you know, Hey, but you know, you got some tendencies that I don't really know, bro.

You know, I had to watch out for you sometime, man. Hey, Joe, anything you see me do is not tendencies, man. This is just me. This is who I am. Joe like that, too. He don't want us to know. Yeah, I know. Hey, he's shy, uncle.

I don't know why. If you're a Johnson, you're supposed to be wide open with it like me. No, no, no, no. See, I'm saying? That's what I'm talking about. See, that's why I say it's some different type of Johnson. And me and you two totally different type of Johnson. No, no, Joe, we're the same Johnson.

in a little rock ark arkansas so you kind of shy you shy with it me now i ain't that's the problem yeah hey i'm wide open with it nigg off of rip it's a what's up it's me i see we see we know you get down yeah yeah yeah jo you get down the same way you know no no no no no no no no i don't get down like that brother because the chat saw like man joe on here man we ain't know joe talk like this we ain't no talk i know you did you just got to pull it out of him and what you got it out of look at him there them joe Johnson and Johnson? Yeah.

I just reciprocate the energy, bro. Oh Joe, oh, oh, Frico Johnson and Joe, oh, oh, Frico Johnson and Joseph Freak O'Neckon Johnson, bad. Nah, no, listen, listen. That Florida, that Florida Johnson over there? Hey, hey, they different. Hey, we got, we about, no, hey, listen, when Joe, like Beyonce, say, when you get that lick in the system, now he gets filthy.

Now he just don't want to share that with us because we're on the show and he got- and he want to what you mean what you mean i get filthy what you break that down for it to know me and chat want to know what you mean i get you know when you get that look at your system drink somebody drink a sip of that laporteur real oh oh come on that that's that way oh oh okay oh he opened it up just like randy moore you know you know the man look at a hey you looking at the curtain at his house or something do that it they're cheeks he got over like that i know it hey hey y'all hey y'all hey y'all Y'all really gotta relax though for real.

Yeah, y'all gotta chill. That don't make you no bad brother. We don't look at you in a different. We're family. Listen, listen, you all gotta chill out for real. Y'all got chill for real. Everybody had that one, everybody had that one, you know.

Yeah. He did things, he was a little, you know, little off. But you know that's your cut, that my cousin. Hey, hey, boy y'all, y'all, y'all. Y'all, y'all throw it off for that for real. But yeah, me and Ocho, we two totally different jobs. We ain't, we're not.

That's Saturday, May boy. Yeah. Hey, you know what? Joe a little shy. He's a little nervous. He's a little nervous. I get it. I understand because I am.

I am reserved. I'm reserved, Ocho, it's a difference. Hey, Joe, I was reserved too in elementary. Huh? By the time I got the junior high boy, I was wide open. That's what I'm trying to tell you. See, people in my family, You won't even, we don't get down like that.

No, no, no, no, no, no. You get down like that, you just don't want us to know you get down like that. But I don't, like I say, that don't make you no bad brother because you get down like that. It don't, they don't. Hey, Joe, I'm still looking at you saying no matter what you are. Hey, Joe, Epo glizzies. I don't look at Ocho, he likes glitzies. Yeah, no, no different.

Right, they don't make him no bad brother. Whatsoever. Just like you are, he got, he got, I'm like, man, probably, I say, you know what? I was thinking. I said, oh, I said, man, I was wonder, I shot Ocho a text. I said, man, Ocho, Joe probably went out there and bought a couple of those gadgets you had on the thing last night. Yeah, he did.

What? I know he did. I know he did. Chad. Chad. I know you did. Chad. Yeah.

Do you see these boy, man? Hey, what's wrong with y'all, man? What make you all thing? I indulge in and that kind of. Hey, you know what? You know what I was tripping to yesterday? What is that? And give you my detailed description on ways you can improve, you know, your horizontal and maybe

vertical activity at home. Joe, make sure you use that K-Y on the button. plug you hear me i sure i oh come on i'll tell you hey uh real tall oh that's joe that man say make sure you don't wrong the blood plug you don't wrong dog the blood uh uh uh uh uh you got suspended man uh you got he got to get a suspension i'm sorry his ass need at least a he got to get a red card joe he got to get a red card his ass got to get some spinning. This man is just out of pocket, man. And it's getting worse. That's what I'm trying to say. That's why we got to stop it now for it's just good. I mean, the boy in left field

over there right now. I don't know what the hell he'd be thinking. I'm like, man, what is wrong with this dude? I can't go nowhere without somebody asking me by old Joe say how kinky is. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. You have to change your last name. that's why I say man hey hey well the judges I know I'm kin too man we're on we don't be rocking like that man

hey Joe I'll tell you so you ain't had no struggles that's all no damn that don't worry about it I ain't had that problem partner this man hey chat I'm so sorry

Chad I promise you I'm sorry hey you know the chat been taking notes I know they're trying I know everything everything I did chat try this thing they got out of hand boy no we good be good we good for real okay back back but when you go up there man you go up there you old lady like baby what are you doing oh cho yeah she already know because she know i don't get down like that yeah right ohcho joe you all already know y'all got y'all got me

Y'all got me crying. Nobody knows where the nose goes when the doves closed. When the doze clothes, yeah. Because behind closed dogs, it's all considered sex. Yeah. Okay. And so I ain't going to tell about you, Joe. I wouldn't put it late.

Like my grandma's just like, boy, I won't put nothing passing. Listen, I ain't got not a damn one of them toys Ocho got over there. I don't have not one. Do you hear me? I don't, we, yeah, we're good over it. You got more than one? Listen. Huh?

You got more than one? No, we don't take. I don't. Damn, it took an Ocho, a little stomach, didn't it? Damn. There, Ocho? Boy, this is that, hey, hey, hey. I don't know what nightcap then turned into,

but it's getting out of hand. I think I got to be the first one to tell you. This shit is getting out of hand. We got to, we got to clean some stuff up around here. Now, hey, that's y'all. Real talk. Y'all too. Nah, no, you know who it is?

Oh, Friko. And we speak his fan. No, yeah, no. Speaking, spain. Yeah. That's you and don't you. Hey, hey, you know what the problem is? You know what the problem is?

I think I, most of the time, you know, when you do anything and you introduce something new to someone, you want to start off slow. And I think I went too extreme with it. I went too extreme with it. So Joe, Joe is flustered because he's not used to that. And obviously he said multiple times, I'm not that. kind of Johnson. So I gotta scale it back some and start him off in kindergarten. Yeah, get him a little feather.

Get him a feather, Joe. Well, hold, oh, well, see, we'll see the problem here, the problem is all this stuff you you're throwing out here. I'm cool on all that, bro. I'm good. Like, we goochie over here, you feel me? Right, I know you Gucci. That's what they all say, Joe.

But listen, listen, try this. Try the furry handcuffs. You hear me? Try the furry handcuffs. You hear me? Listen, she'll, she'll love these. She'll love these. You hear me?

Now you can use them on the hands or you can put, you can use them on the ankles. On the ankles? Yeah. You get the bar, but you got the bar though, Joe, because they got a bar that you put, you could, yeah. But you don't know what I'm saying? You got a little bar, a little bar by this low. Yeah.

Yeah. Hey, hey, y'all advanced, boy. I'm, I ain't gonna lie to y'all. I learned some damn the end show we have, man. I really do. Oh, Joe, I want you to take no. Started my, starting my with the feather. Then we'll work it up to the little, the little, the little, like, like the, like the,

like the, like the, like the, like the, little leather one, about this big. Yeah. With a little, yeah, little patch on it. You know, something like that, a little something like that. We start you off slow, Joe. What do you think about the swing? You thought about getting the swing, Joe, they're hanging the doorway? No, I, I went, we need all that.

I'm a pretty big guy, you know what I mean? So I can handle them on. But the swing ain't for you, Joe. The swing hole is. The swing hold 500 pounds, Joe. No, I ain't, you're saying for me to get in it. No, you big ass can get it. No, no, no.

I mean, you don't, I mean, Joe, you can't get in nothing. Joe, Joe, I show him for, I show her for your lady to call the fire department to get you, cut your ass on fire that swing. Hey, chat. That's going to be on the internet, Joe. That's going to build an internet. Chat, chat, I'm sorry, chat. I don't know what the hell the conversation don't went to. Yeah, I just bear with us, bear with us.

These two Johnson boys? Hey, Joe, everybody in this chat do the exact same thing I'm talking about. Oh, my goodness, you know. I don't know what you would have been. Hey, no, now, now, uh, between Uncle and Ocho, you know, I know you always in it, man. I don't know why you be acting so perplexed

when it comes to, when you hear your name in it. Hey, Joe, I like, that's a big word. Yeah, he's a big word. Yeah, he's. I don't know why he'd be acting like he just don't know. Yeah, you in it. You're headlining, partner. You're headlined in.

Hell. Why I don't know why he'd be acting like, you know, it's just Ocho. No, no, no. No, it's you and Ocho. I'm just a traffic cop. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. That's all I'm doing. I'm just directing traffic.

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Trey Young has a message for everyone. Trey Young, he tweeted, you're about to get the best version of me. Trey last healthy season in 2425. He averaged 24 points. 11.5 assists. Joe, with 2026, be Ice Trey's best season yet with A.J.

And A.D. Yeah, I think so, bro. Look, you got to understand something. Trey is a guy who makes guys around them better. I think, you know, his passing ability, Not only scoring, but it's passing. It's going to help young guys like AJ out. Obviously, it's going to help AD.

He's going to make the game easier for everybody. And I think ultimately it's going to make the game easier for himself. And there's no better person or player to have coming into a season who really feel like they have something to prove, bro. Because you know, you're going to get the best out of him. And like, he just reiterated that, you know, you're going to get the best version of him. And I really believe it, bro, considering the first. fact that you know he probably still a little salty about Atlanta giving him up

whether he said or not but obviously congrats trade boy got his money now he want to show up and show out okay ohcho and he got a nice squad bro I'm telling y'all I'm room for the wizards man and considering think about how many lives he threw to Capella he got Anthony Davis now and AJ yeah and I'm sorry like he got plenty guys he get those lives too but you're right I like it And yeah, it was tough because that city, because they really hadn't had a whole lot, Joe, basically like Dominique,

and then they had to wait kind of for you to come there. And then when you left, they had to wait a minute and then they got Trey. Somebody, they could just get behind like, that's I got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they had that and now it's gone. You know, hey, the human highlight,

and then they have ISO, and then they had ice tray. Hey, I don't know what Jalen Johnson nickname going to be. I don't know what they're going to give CJ. But, hey, the Hawks, they love their superheroes. I think the Hawks are in a great position. I like Ocho. I love Jalen Johnson and everything about him.

Obviously, I think the playoffs this past season was a great experience for him. I think he's going to take another leap this year as opposed to, you know, still being that superstar player, you know, who we know and love. And I think he got a chance to really take this franchise to a whole different level, bro. I agree. I agree. Really do it. I hope he has a great season.

You see what you call them. They're asking a Golden State. I just read today, the Golden State is trying to reengage the Wizards. We got Jimmy Butler, first right, like two first round picks and a pick swap. They really try to entice the Bronx. I think if they get AD, LeBron going to the Warriors. Yeah, I just don't see.

But if you're the Wizards, why the hell would you do that? Why would you give up AD for Jimmy Butler? As much as I love Jimmy Butler and what he brings to the game, he's not going to be healthy. And I just don't really see that being a great fit, ultimately for A.J. DeBonser, who is your future? But Jimmy's going to expire a contract. So he'll be out here only going to be a half the year.

Right. But damn, if you're talking about trying to win a chance, change the franchise around. I mean, I get it. Not really, I really don't get it. Obviously, yeah, I'm saying if you try if you're trying to get off AD, I don't really, unless you just don't want to pay him to max

and you feel like it ain't worth it, okay, cool. You know what I mean, by outside of that, I feel like he's gonna be a great piece for that squad, bro. Tim Hardaway, Senior, apparently had a John Q moment. He had to change your heart on the decision to let his son, Jr., whether number 10. Let's take a listen to what

Junior had to say. To the number, which everybody wants to know, I'm just going to leave it at this. The first go around, it was a personal decision. And I think the second go around was a family decision. I've been wearing that number ever since I started playing the game in basketball because of my father. I always looked up to him ever since I started playing the game. Mama say, boy, hey mama say, Tim, get that boy that number. You can't say you want him to chart his own path when you gave him your name.

He's junior. If you wanted to chart his own past, you should have named him David Hardaway. You should have named him Chris Hardaway. You named him Tim Hardaway, Jr. Right. And then you tell the other man to chart his own course. Well, you kind of inhibit him from doing it a little bit.

Yeah. Hey, that's why I didn't do that. That's why I didn't name none of my boys, Joe. Hell now. Yeah. We're going to get you. y'all own damn yeah a lot a lot of a lot of expectations and pressure come behind wearing that number yeah for sure there's one it's one thing to be hard away junior but wearing that 10

especially down here in miami so expectations they're gonna be through the roof to be able to continue that legacy you know that your dad left Tim how much you charge you senior how much you charge junior for that number he ain't he he ain't he he softened up at the end uncle ojo gone ahead son go on here uh uh uh mom had some of saying that. That's who's softened up. Yeah. Seger probably won't say he won't say

nothing, but I guarantee you. She had a little saying that. Boy, get that boy, that number. Right. But I'm glad it worked out. He gets to wear the number that he's always worn. He said he's always looked up to his father, admired his father. Father was a hell of a player,

especially in Golden State, played really well and with the heat. but man, him, Mitch Richmond, Chris Muller was something special. And they had Sharunas, Marcellona's, and Golden State that run TMC, or they had something special, man. They did. They had a special group. You know what's funny, though?

It's funny because Tim Hardaway, Jr., he's night and day compared to his pops, bro. Like, when you talk about game, their game don't even, you know what I mean? It don't even match up. It's like, hold on. Because Tim Hardaway senior, oh, Tim Hardaway senior, he remained with it. Boy, now the difference is his crossover, AI had to cross over way out here like this here. AI was bringing the way out here like,

wow, wow. Yeah, yeah. Hardaway thing was nice and kick kick. Was nice, compact, tight, yes. Yeah, yeah. Float game. Big, bink, yeah. Junior is just mainly a sniper.

Yep, yep, yeah. Found a way. Senior is with a, cacop. Crossing you up, getting to the bucket. One of top point guards in his day, bro. Oh, yeah. A judge denies Terry Rozier's request to modify his bail conditions. Terry Rozier wants to play in the NBA while he fights sports gambling charges that sidelined him last season.

Bell conditions that bar him from contact with certain players and limit his travel could complicate the potential return. U.S. Judge LaShawn DeR. Hall on Wednesday denies the defense request to modify Roger bail condition so he can practice and play with potential witnesses as long as they don't talk about the case. The judge said it would be impossible to police Rozier's own court conversation. She admonished Rozier for already violating the non-contact provision of his $3 million bond by sending text messages to a person to which he's told not to communicate with. Rozier was contacting the person to tell them that he was on the non-contact list, the R.C. Hall said,

what that tells me is that he believes he knows better than the court. Hall said at the hearing in Brooklyn's federal court. Rozier said, Rozier, she said, violated the court's trust with that text message. Joe, what team is going to pick you up, bro? Bro, yo, it's over. It's over. They're going to trust you.

That's what? Hey, as good as a player that he is, Malique Beasley is, Terry Rozier's, it's just hard to see a team taking a chance on an Ankenocho. What do you mean hard to see, Joe? It's hard. It's a PR nightmare. They're not dealing with that? That's what they don't want, brother.

They have to answer that every day. And then don't let you have a bad game. You're going to have to read between the lines on the question they ask. Every turnover. Yeah. Every loose ball that he doesn't get. Now I question everything, and that's not how it should be. I should be able to watch the game in which Terry Rozier or Malik Beasley plays

and have no thought come across my mind. Maybe he missed that shot on purpose. Man, why he didn't get that rebound? Man, why he drivel the ball off his foot? I shouldn't have to watch a game like that. And bro, you know you're not supposed to. And, and the, so, because guess what happened? That person that you contact, they told.

Yeah. They told. They say, I ain't fit to go. Hey, bro, I'm not, I'm trying to get up out of this. You trying to get me in some stuff. You try to, hey, bro, I'm already in water, deep water. And you turn the holes on and put more water in the ocean. I'm trying to get up out of this.

Hey. No. different from Joe before you go I don't know who we talked to but they told yeah yeah I mean there's no difference in the Sorosby kid from you know in college football bro yeah takes a take no it's gonna be hard hey man nobody nobody even gonna probably give you a shot bro think about it if y'all was a GM or owner of a team man you don't want that on your team bro I'm sorry if it was an isolated if it was a situation a couple of times.

9,000. Do they know how many 9,000? Just start counting. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 19. That's a lot of bets. They don't go to 20. Now go to 100 bets. Now go to 1,000 bets.

Now go to 9,000. I just don't know how you trust that. I don't. Now, he might go to counseling and he might go and but to a bit. Because here's the thing. you might be able to say that, you know what, I'm done with this, I'm not going to do it anymore.

The problem that you run into is to convince teams and owners and general managers. You heard Todd Monkin, man, but on the game, I don't know if you want your franchise quarterback. That's what you want from him? No. That's the thing, though. I mean, and he got a $3 million bond. And he had a, because they'll tell you who you can and can't communicate with.

Right. Hold on. How long he been locked up? No, he out. He on bond. Oh, he on bond. Yeah, three million. Which is normally a 10%.

Now, they might have made it put, they might have made it put property up or something like that. But normally, I mean, sometimes they'll give, hey, they might make you have a three million cash bond. But I'm assuming this is 10, this is 10% of that, which is 300,000. Mm. Especially they think you're a flight risk. They're, hey, they take, but they're going to take your passport.

and they'll put a GPS monitor on you, they really think you're a flat risk. They really, they really, hey, 100 million, $200 million, $300 million bond. They make you reflect, bro. Yeah, yeah. Like, damn, they try to put it so high, especially if they're really concerned about you,

knowing that you probably can't come up with it. And then it's like, nah, they'll put your ass on home. They put your ass on house arrest, home confinement. You can't leave. But I don't know, bro, you know your agent, your attorney has already told you. But you got the affidavit, you already see the complaint. Yeah. And a part of the stipulation is you cannot have communication with, I can't talk to Joe,

I can't talk to Ocho, I can't talk to Jordan, I can't talk to Ash. Even through an intermediary. Well, I didn't know I could, I, I ain't talked to him. them directly. Yeah, but you sent word through somebody else. That's the same thing. Bro, I, I, I, good luck. I wish you the best, bro. But I just don't see our team going to touch you or Malik moving forward. No, I mean, you know they're not. And simply as great as he is, obviously having this, you know, overshadden it over your head. Team don't want to deal with

the PR nightmare. No, sir. That's, that's all that comes down to. It's an absolute PR nightmare. Of course. Because like you said, like we're talking about. You watching the game and he turned the ball over. Tim was the first thing that will go through your mind? He missed a wide open layup. He missed a wide open shot.

What's going through your mind, Joe? Yeah. You found that man on the situation. Like, bro, why are you? Hey, he had had to come back and be damn near perfect from the field, Joe. It would. Because you think about it,

when you go back and when they go it back and they play it some of the clips that he did. They talk about he's going to miss part of the game. You see the man make a shot, run down the court, then all of a sudden he grabbed his ankle. Like, oh, hell. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.

Or you get a situation. And Joe, we talked about it. When Kay Cunningham passed that ball to Malik Beasley, and the ball went right through his hand. Right, yeah. Now you look it. I make you think. He gets the ball.

The line was seven and a half. They up nine. He gets the ball, raised down the court, dunk it. Now you win by seven. Yeah. Everything go get called into question. It's just, it's just tough.

That, and we've seen the NBA, we've seen MLB, we've seen the NFL, forgive a lot, but boy, will you start gambling, arts leicester?

Now, there have been a situation, but this was way back. You look at a, Paul Horning had a situation. There was a defense, He was the father on Webster. He had a situation.

They got suspended for a year. Who else? I think it was like three guys. Horning. I forget, I forget the guy. But he was the father on Webster. But he was a defensive lineman for the Detroit Lions. Chad, you can look it up.

I think it was three of them, way back when. And they got suspended for a year. But I think now, Art Sleaster, they just say, you don't. they just say you you do it because they tried to give him grace and he's just like he couldn't he couldn't he couldn't help himself uh uh i don't know i mean that that gambling man people just want to believe because now even more than ever because you see so many guys being involved in it and i didn't understand i'm i mean i'm looking at some of these guys and they doing these these prop bets i'm like guys you making millions and you trying to win a hundred

hundreds what that says it doesn't it don't make no sense but when you able when you got all these different gambling spots on the old children where you can bet on these games man you got to figure Alice cares you got to go ahead Joe you got to you got to figure some of these guys going indulge in it a little bit you know that's I think that's just human nation that's why you see so many guys who've got caught up whether it's collegiate whether it's pros. Hell, and it's just the people they caught. But Joe, you know what I mean? I'm making 30 million. I'm making 35 million.

I can bet on baseball. I can bet on football. I can bet on tennis. I can bet on golf. I can bet on the World Cup. Just don't bet on your sport. I can't make it make it make sense for you. You heard me. What's up to Joe? What did you say? Ocho? You can't, you, everything you just named. You can't control those outcomes. They're, they're betting on situations where they can control the outcome. Yes.

And obviously most of the time, hey, Uncle Joe, not only are they bedding, I think sometimes they're in positions where they don't want to bed anymore, but they're in bed with the wrong people. But hold on. They don't have a choice but to keep on it. But hold on, but hold on.

If you're trying to control a game, Uncle Ocho to where you win these bets, man, you can't have nobody bedding no damn 100,000, 200,000. Ain't no, hold on. After blue, we get these bets from, from Terry Rozier and Malik B, come on, bro. They're looking into that A-staff.

But it's the pro- it's the pro-bets. Cause they don't, I mean, they're, like you said, Joe, under a certain number of points. He's like, oh, I'm gonna leave the game so I'm gonna be guaranteed I'm not gonna make. That's the way, one way to control it. Yeah.

I just, I, uh. I think they got stuck, Joe. I think they got stuck. Ocho, with all the money that you're making from basketball, hell, you can go pay your damn dead off. No, I'm saying I think they got stuck in bed with certain people that were gambling, and the only people that they were gambling with were relying on them to do certain things to make sure they kept that money coming in for other people, not them. I hate it for them dudes, bro.

I'm telling my two cats who could play and could help a real contender. I hate that for them, bro. Yeah, there was Paul Horning and Alex Carrey's. They were both suspended for, I think a year, Alex Carrey's got a year, and five other players along with Carrey's was spying $2,000 for betting on the 1962 NFL championship game.

Damn. He was expended, Paul Horning, he was the MVP in 1961, was spending for the entire 63 season for betting on NFL games after he admitted to betting up to $500 on a game and associating with known gamble. Listen,

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And, but like, you know, we were talking about, like, that's what I don't, you know, like, bet on other sports. For me, I just couldn't do that. To bet on, to basically bet against my team for knowing the hard work that I put in, knowing the hard work to you, the other guys put in, Ocho and Joe.

And this is what I'm gonna do. Yeah. Sometimes, like I said, everything doesn't have to make sense. This doesn't make sense to me that, you know, you making 30, these guys weren't making no money. You see boxing, you know, everybody said boxing with the fix, guys taking dives, Ocho. But it wasn't no money.

Oh Cho, if you're making $40, 50 million, if I can't make $100 million, Why am I even, because normally people bet, I bet 500 with the hopes of winning 5,000, 50,000. I'm not betting no millions hoping to win hundreds or thousands. I make 30 million. Terrible you're making 30 million a year. Damn.

And you're going to go gamble on your game. You don't want to bet football. You don't want to bet baseball. You don't want to bet hockey or World Cup of soccer. They got soccer games going on all the time. that you can bet on. You don't want to bet on golf. You don't want to bet on baseball.

You want to bet on the sport that you play? You want to control it. You're messing with you a senior somewhere where you can't control nothing. Hello. Hello. Hello. Not even draws you put on.

Nah. I mean, can you imagine you making that kind of money and then you go, what do you think they're going to say when he comes in there? Now, he ain't going to go to the big eyes. He'll go one of those, you know, little farm houses,

and something like that. But what you think they're gonna say? Go to the Fed. What do you think they're gonna say to it? Bro, really? You know what they're gonna say. Really, bro? 30 million.

And you gonna bet props? They in the Fed's, they can't say nothing in there because they're asking that for a reason. But Joe, which one of the ones you think in that making $30 million? I mean, you might find some of them guys that some swindle some people out of some money, you know, them pyramid schemes and things like that,

then embezzle some money. But that's what I don't. get that what but yeah they embezzling hoping to take all the money so i got a pyramid scheme um right um Bernie made off yeah billion the billion dollars okay oh chole i still don't understand how you did that boy because you give me 5,000 i give you 15,000 in two weeks what you're going to do next you're going to bring me more money right yeah because i just gave you 10,000 and two weeks on the 5,000 that you get so i gave you 15,000 back plus your 5,000 So guess what you're going to do now?

Man, God, dang, you're going to bring me more money and more money. Then he's going to come to me. Because then I'm going to take the money I got from Joe and pay you. And then I'm going to take the money from somebody else and pay Joe. And guess what Joe going to do? Bring me more money. That's how it worked. That's how it's how you get to a billion.

Yeah, but how you get to a billion? Because he dealing with people that got billions. Yeah. And they trusted him. The guy from the Mets. The owner. The guy that on the mats. All these people, did you see all the famous people

that he had money that he had? Hell, he had billions. Yeah, he's playing with some heavy hitters, Ocho. That's how pyramid scheme work. That's how they get you. You know what? Let me show you how good this thing is, Ocho. Give me $10,000.

You give me $10,000 on Wednesday, and two weeks later, I shoot you your $10,000 back plus another $20. Hey. Hey. Hey, let my grandma say sometimes if it's too good to be true, no, no.

There you go. Here's the thing. He gave you the money back. You ain't looking at it's too good to be true now because you got the money back. You might be thinking that at the time that somebody can give you a 20, a 30, 40% return on your money.

But that's why you only gave him 10,000. So if you gave him 10,000, he gave you 20,000 in two weeks plus your 10,000 back. If I give him 100,000, if I give him 500,000, what are you going to give me, Joe? Oh, got him, got him. I don't set the hook now. Just don't let him off.

Yeah, that's some bad work though. Yeah. Yeah. That's how the pyramid scheme work. And then after a while, guess what? Man, Ojo, you know, hey, give me one more week. Mm. Mm.

That's what the game started playing. Yep. Poop. Yep. Hey, hey, now they ain't asking you calls. Now you ain't heard from. Yeah. Hey, I'm fun, I'm going to try that.

Try what? Shoot. Hey, Joe, send me $10,000. Let me get you 30 back next. They're going to buy you swimming with the fishing on me. All right? Hey, I can swim, Joe. Oh, okay.

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