Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Brady’s cryptic message, Nacua Puka injury, Jameson Williams suspension
Episode Date: November 1, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Tom Brady posting cryptic song lyrics on his social media after his ex-wife Gisele’s pregnancy announcement. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Los ...Angeles Rams WR Puka Nacua leaving Thursday’s practice with a knee injury, Detroit Lions WR Jameson Williams could be facing his third NFL suspension and much more!03:13 - Tom Brady11:35 - Puka11:55 - Money Moves16:42 - Trevon Diggs23:49 - Hurts meets Obama31:30 - What’s Olipopping Off37:34 - Jameson Williams45:17 - Rough Draft51:30 - Spell-o-Cinco01:00:13 - Dunk On Unc01:06:30 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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["Duck Island Theme Song"]
Ocho Tom Brady Brady post song lyric after Giselle announces her pregnancy. Brady posted a sunset photo via his IG stories using the chicks cover landslide as background
music.
He added song lyrics to Oh Mirror in the Sky, What is Love?
Can the child within my heart rise above? Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
That must have been one of their songs together something I'm a hold on I'm come I'm confused though
Hold on that what you can use back. Hold on. She prays she pregnant like like with it like with a baby
What else?
like with a baby? Yeah. What what else? No, she's pregnant with a an iguana. Time out. Listen to me now. Hold on. Now, if my man serves me correct, it's only been a year. It don't take me nine
months. Hold on. That's bingo. So, if her and Tommy just broke up not that long ago, that means her
and Buddy had to be doing the do while they were still together. That might have been a problem,
but he might have been putting meat on the back then okay? Oh
Lord that ain't good man. Hello, bro. Hello
Why do you think somebody because of who they are is exempt from what the casual man experience?
I ain't I ain't say they was exempt. I just said that's messed up
You know to do the do to you know, it is life though. It is what it is. They separated
Huh? They separated. Oh Joe
Yeah, I know I know they separated now, but I'm just saying just just the thought of it
You might have been separated but it went before you were separated, you know
You was playing the seed already the seed might have been getting planted. Oh look here
I ain't no motherfucking fool a lot of times men or women, they're not leaving the relationship unless they got something
lined up.
There are very few people that will quit a job without having a job already lined up.
Now sometimes it has happened.
Just like sometimes people will leave a relationship and totally be scot free.
But that's not that's a rarity.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. relationship and totally be scot-free. But that's not that's a rarity.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Say that again. Say, say, just say it one more time.
I said normally people will relieve a relationship unless they got something already lined up.
Oh, there is there is there have been situations where they just want to get out from under that situation.
It's just like a job.
Sometimes people like I ain't got no land or lined up, but I just know I need to leave this job.
Oh more times than not.
People have another job already.
I'm about to do it.
Damn.
That's crazy, bro.
So but a baby though already.
Maybe she wanted one in time didn't maybe I don't know.
I ain't trying to know that man Tommy would have gave her another one if she wanted another
one like you ain't been a been two years now you already got you already got the wah-wah
So so hey you broke with your girlfriend you wait
Hey we break up I'm putting meat on somebody that night
I'm here. I need somebody.
I need somebody to help me get over this.
Can you help me?
Yeah.
Yeah. But that listen that help you talk about that's
temporary.
Hey, that pain on seat right back in as soon as you
done. You ever heard of post-nuclarity?
But that shit hurt you.
No.
Yeah.
All right. Hey, all right.
All right.
Hey, it happens, Ocho. It do?
Once we go our separate ways, whatever you do,
that's your, first of all,
it was your hoo-ha when we was together.
So if you chose to be given somebody when we were together,
it is what it is.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Time out, rewind.
Let me tell you something.
It's never your hoo-ha, ever.
Yeah.
Ever.
She don't leave it at the house when she leave.
Oh, absolutely not.
She got it on her?
Okay, there's a chance for somebody to get it.
Yeah, yeah, hey, it never belongs to us now.
Never that.
Never that.
Yeah, I'm cool. Hey, I was feeling right. I'm feeling good today too. I'm just saying
Ocho. I ain't trying to cast a book. I ain't got no problem with what Gisele did. Her and
Tommy were separated. Her and Tommy divorced. People get married. People get divorced.
A year just about what? I don't know how long it's it.
Maybe they had listen, this ain't something that just happened.
They've been probably having issues.
It came to a head and they decided to say enough of this.
Everybody says, we part ways.
Happen.
So, you know, you know, listen, I've been saying it for a lot of years.
A lot of people have taken my sand.
I've been saying this since 83.
This was in the yearbook in my yearbook, 1996 in the yearbook.
She's never yours.
It's just your turn.
Everything in life has the expiration date at some point.
You know, people say, oh, I love him unconditionally.
Nothing is no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's hard. It's hard.
Family members, your mom, your dad,
is probably going to be the one that loves you unconditionally.
People that love you unconditionally.
Everything in life comes with conditions.
Always.
Yeah.
No matter what anybody tell you.
Always.
Yeah.
That's your life.
It's the way it is.
It's going to be a mom.
It's going to be a family member.
Because I could have done something
the most hein the most high
heinous crime
My brother gonna say that boy deserves whatever happened to it. That's still my baby
Yeah, my sister's gonna be the same. She go. Hey, I know she gonna come in here to break a heart
She go hug me. She's a Shannon. I always love you, but you know, you got to go do what you're supposed to do. Yeah
But you know, you got to go do what you're supposed to do. Yeah
Damn, man. We love they love on the condition. You don't hurt me. You don't abuse me. You don't treat me right, right?
Right and and you also have to do you also have to provide don't forget that so I'm just saying that's mutual I love you. You love me X Y & Z. I'm cool with that
I'm under no illusions that it has to be perfect on one side and not the other so I don't want women to say well
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm speaking for men and women
So normally is universal because when I'm talking I'm talking about for men and women
So excuse me if I just say if I'm it feel like I'm just talking to the guys and I'm looking at the women
No women. I'm looking at the man too
mmm Yeah, but that hurt oh, so you think that hurt Tom women, no women. I'm looking at the men too. Hmm. Yeah.
But that hurt. Oh, Joe, you think that hurt Tom?
Uh, uh, probably.
It probably hurt based on the amount of years and memories and time they put in
and everything he invest in her, uh, knowing Tommy,
he's been pretty private. I'm not sure if he's moved on or not,
but Giselle has been public with her situation. Uh, Tommy, Tommy's been pretty private. I'm not sure if he's moved on or not, but Giselle has been public with her situation.
Tommy, Tommy playing is smart.
Tommy playing is smart.
Doing it the private way, similar to how you do things.
I think it might sting a little bit.
It might sting a little bit,
but it's something he'll probably be able to get over.
Shit, hell, I wish him both the best, man.
I wish them both the best. Absolutely. I wish them both the best.
Absolutely.
Like I said, I know Tommy a little bit.
I've never met Giselle.
So I have, I mean, for him to be able to do what he's done,
I have respect for the man because he played in the NFL
and what he's been able to accomplish.
And he's always, even when I've been critical of him,
when he see me, he understands my job, my responsibility,
and he still show me love.
He's always, he's always shown me love.
Every time I've met Tom Brady,
he's shown me the utmost respect.
So I have nothing but the utmost respect for him.
I don't know him outside of the football.
So I don't judge people outside of football.
That's why I got no problem when he decided
that he wanted to get a divorce,
they wanted to go to separate ways.
Go.
I look, I, I, oh, he should stay or she should have stayed. I can't believe this.
I can't believe that I'm talking about Tom Brady, the football player.
And boy, was he a damn good one.
Yeah.
Oh Joe, damn it.
Pooka, the cool practice with a knee injury.
Pooka dealt with knee issues in training camp before aggravating the injury and
Rams lost against the lions on week one. with a knee injury. Puka dealt with knee issues in training camp before aggravating the injury in Rams loss
against the Lions on week one.
He was diagnosed with a PCL sprain
and subsequently placed on injury reserve,
missing the team's next five games.
LA struggled in his absence, finished with two and three record
while missing the Pro Bowl receiver.
Damn.
I think, I think, I think, because I saw reports on this earlier today as well,
that he might not miss any time Sunday, because the Rams look like a completely different
offense with Puka back and Cooper Cup back. But again, the funny thing about it, I went
to that Thursday night game, I talked to Cooper Cup as well. I talked to Puka Nakua on the
sideline. I say, Puka, bro, what are you doing? You know, you got people in your ear changing your diet. You just had
a historic rookie season eating McDonald's the entirety of the season. Here
you go. You talk to somebody. I'm not saying no names. You talk to somebody
else and all of a sudden you want to change your diet for the better because
you think it's going and then all of a sudden you get hurt. Go back to what you
know. If it's not broke, don't fix it. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Now here we go with another injury.
But he gonna be all right though.
I think this is not that serious.
Hopefully.
Hopefully.
He gotta play Sunday.
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I think we can do that.
Um, if we are to lay an egg against the Raiders, Unc.
Yeah, that'd be over.
That's yeah.
Y'all season be officially over.
That's bad.
And I mean, no disrespect to the Raiders organization or Mr.
Pierce, but it would be bad based on who we are
and what we're supposed to be
and the expectations that we had coming in
before the season even started.
We got to do something.
You lose this game, hey, I get off T. Higgins.
You gonna lose them in free agency anyway.
Yeah, so you wanna get rid of Merle?
You go three and six, what the hell you gonna do?
Yeah, but hold on, you to get rid of Merlin? You got three and six, what the hell you gonna do? Yeah. But hold on, you want to,
you want to get rid of Merlin?
Yes. The trade deadline is Tuesday.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You gonna lose him in free agency.
Why not get, try to get a third or fourth round
draft pick for him?
A third? Man, you can get a second for T.
I don't know about that.
Why am I going to give you a second round draft pick
when I know you gonna lose it in free agency anyway?
Oh, okay, I see what you're going.
I think that's what you're asking.
I'm not gonna give you market value.
You want me to give you market value for your house
when I know it's about to go in foreclosure in two months.
That's a chess move. I wish I might.
Right.
Yeah, I'm not gonna do it.
Oh, Joe, Trayvon Diggs has done a lot of talking this week
besides apologizing to a reporter
and gifting him a can of nuts.
Okay.
Diggs also went on Michael Parsons podcast
and said, Jayden Daniels is a top five quarterback
in the league.
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Mahomes, Lamar, Daniels, Josh Allen,
Hertz, Goff, Staffs, Josh Allen, Hertz,
golf, Stafford, and Darnall.
There was one noticeable absent on that quarterback list.
His own, Dak Prescott.
I mean, listen, when you make a list like that,
sometimes your quarterback that's on your team
really isn't considered part of your top 10.
Just because he plays for the Cowboys
doesn't mean Dak has to be in his top 10 of quarterbacks
that he actually likes.
Maybe talk about the quarterbacks now as of right now in the league.
I'm putting my quarterback on there.
Is that top 10 right now statistically?
Me and you know, but as a teammate, yeah.
Oh, okay.
I see what you mean.
I mean, maybe maybe he doesn't think like that.
He would just be instead of being PC just because he's on the Cowboys and plays for them,
maybe he was just being truthful.
Let me ask you a question.
They asked Tarzan Palmer,
hey, give me the top five receivers.
Tio, Randy Moss, this one, that one, no Ocho.
You gonna feel some type of way.
Well, not really because I'm not in their class anyway.
I'm a tier below everybody you just named.
I'm saying I'm realistic.
I don't care.
Right.
I'm not putting when they ask me who my quarterback.
I'm taking seven.
Okay.
Well, seven is that seven is that boy.
So you got to take seven.
I don't care if he's not that boy.
Right.
Because let me ask you a question.
How many past the Carson throw to the people that I named?
None.
How many of those players helped Carson
get to the Pro Bowl?
Okay, I see you going with it.
Well, I see what you're talking about.
I wish I was.
Give me seven.
Yeah.
But I mean, Dak probably saying, well damn, I couldn't get number nine. I couldn't get 10.
Damn!
Don't worry about it. Hey, one thing about it, that guy that 60 million, he ain't tripping on what trade.
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I like what you I am picking up what you're putting down that I like that then I got because I'm gonna make look.
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The free agent likelihood of you paying him coming off an ACL injury.
Not very good at least a I got t I get an opportunity to see right.
Just say it. Oh Joe. Yeah. Yeah, I see right. Just say it.
Oh Joe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like it.
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So listen, I don't, I don't want my bangles to lose, but you're saying if, if they
happen to lose to the Raiders, the chance of T probably going to Houston being at
their receivers are, are, uh, I hate using the word hurt.
They're depleted at the receiving core.
There's, there's chance that happens.
I'm speaking it into existence.
What you wanted to have, you want T to go to the Texans?
I mean, I want C.J. Stroud to have some
that he can use at his disposal that's really good.
Not saying they don't have anything,
because Tengdale is good.
I like Robert Woods, I like Meachie,
but adding another piece to that puzzle
with Diggs gone now,
and Nico Collins not coming back to maybe week 11,
I think it'd be cool.
And here's the thing though, Ocho.
You gotta try to get something done.
CJ Stroud's gonna get 275, 300.
Yeah.
It makes it very, very difficult
when your quarterback makes that kind of money to put all the pieces that he has around him now.
Because think about it. They had a dig. They have Nico Collins. They have a tank deal. You got a Joe Mixon.
Hey, CJ Anderson is going to command the big play date.
Yeah. Tell us so much. Hey, and then you got to start filling in the blanks.
Right.
So I'm just saying, I mean, that's something that the Bengals are going to have to think
about is that, okay, we lose this game.
Matter of fact, you know what?
We're not even losing that game.
Okay.
Impossible.
You know, the Raiders play man to man, huh?
You know that?
And we got, I don't know, I hope T is playing.
We got Jamar Chase.
Well.
Got Jermaine Burton.
He gonna have enough time to throw it
because you know they got Max Crosby over there, right?
We got Yoshi.
We got who?
Max Crosby on the defensive side for the Raiders.
You know who our left tackle is?
Do you know who our right tackle is? We don't see Matt Crosby on the defensive side for the Raiders. You know who our left tackle is? Do you know who our right tackle is?
We don't see Matt Crosby.
Nah, he ain't just starting right tackle
because Brown got hurt.
Oh shit.
Who taking a hand?
I don't even know who I'm talking about.
Oh, your right tackle is.
And hell, what you call him?
He hurt too.
Who?
O Brown, O Brown Jr. Oh, we got my mems.
Mems from Alabama.
Okay.
Yeah, we good.
We good.
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Jalen Hurts had an opportunity to meet President Barack Obama with
Saquon Barkley earlier this week.
Unlike Barkley, Hurts wasn't golfing with President Obama and Jeffrey
Lurie. Why not?
Hurts admitted he can't golf in his contract. to see him out there enjoyed himself and talking a little trash
That was that was cool. I told him he didn't want these problems just yet. I can't go right now by contract
I can't golf person made us he's not he wasn't allowed to golf and that was a story for another time
He said it's still not time to tell the story
I've never heard anybody have like golf and that was a story for another time. He said, it's still not time to tell the story.
I've never heard anybody have like golf, obviously basketball, jet skis, water skiing,
regular skiing, you know, I've heard, you know,
obviously you can't go dirt bike, you know, dirt bike riding,
you know, things like that.
But I've never heard anybody have a golf clause
in their contract saying they couldn't do it.
Michael Jordan had basketball in his contract
for the love of the game.
Right.
So at any point in time,
if he wanted to play pickle basketball, he could.
Right.
I think I understand what Hers is talking about,
especially with the way everybody's getting hurt,
non-contact injuries.
You don't want to be out there swinging a golf club,
creating all that torque,
which are your waists and the shoulders and the swing and the arm,
just, you know, just keep it, keep it, play it safe. You know, you just,
you just had a season last year where on the back half of the season,
the last 10 games, maybe 10 or 11 games, you had an issue with your knee.
I think it affected, I think it affected your play right now. You're healthy.
Let's not have any problems.
So you continue to play some good football
and sweep that goddamn NFC East, right?
Yeah, NFC East.
Okay, that's true.
Did you ever have a clause in your contract
of things that you couldn't do?
Probably things that would have been
conduct detriments to the team and
they could have took, uh, money from me.
Obviously it took some of my signing bonus.
They don't list those things.
They just say they get to decide.
Oh, listen, they get to decide and it's stuff that I wouldn't be doing anyway.
I'm not riding no goddamn motorcycles.
Yeah, that's me.
I ain't riding no motorcycles.
You ain't got to worry about that.
Yeah.
Twerk.
Do you meanOR or tweak?
I said TORC.
No, TORC is what women do at the club.
Yeah, it is.
No, I'm talking about that.
What you talk about?
You said TORC like TORC like.
Yeah, TORC.
But you said what you said, TORC.
No, I just it's because the way I the way I say know what you, I know what the way you said it was twerk
and you mean torque.
Torque.
It's my W's cause I, cause I got a, I got a
But I thought that was country.
No, I'm, I'm just saying, cause it's the way I talk.
It's the way I talk.
I talk like a little gorilla.
Okay.
No, I didn't have anything in my contract.
I didn't have a weight clause in my contract. And I like you, I didn't have anything in my contract. I didn't have a weight clause in my contract.
And I like you, I didn't have a whole lot of hobbies outside of, of lifted
weights and, and, and, and, and I used to ride, I used to road bike a lot
when I was in the league, but
road bike, what's that about bicycle?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
That ain't nothing.
So, but then I just, I, I gave that up up cuz people be starting running your ass over on the road
So I was like nah, I
Was right. I'm trying to go out early in the streets of Atlanta
So I try to get up like six o'clock in the morning where there's not a whole lot of traffic. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, and then I bought this by I bought this bike
it's a
Trick It's a Shrek
Trick that's America made trick went down to Colorado Springs got fitted Chris Carmichael fitted me
Got on did all the stuff that lactic acid chance and did everything
Man, I got that back is carbon fiber light the bike probably weighs
It had to weigh a little more because I'm a little heavier than, you know, obviously cyclists way they were between 135 and probably about 160.
It was expensive. How much was your bike?
It was a lot.
About 3000.
Huh?
Hey, how about 15?
1500.
Oh, that ain't bad.
15 bands.
May you pay 15,000 American dollars for a bicycle?
Yes.
We got to talk about your decision-making, man,
and spending this money, man.
First, not the shoes, shoes in Atlanta,
shoes in wherever you're at right now,
shoes in LA, and now you bought a goddamn bicycle
for $15,000, like what are we doing?
That was so long ago.
It don't matter.
Who is your financial person? You need it before you make any
goddamn decision from this point on, you need to call me first.
No, I actually I don't need to call you.
I probably don't need to call you.
You need to call me first.
I'm good.
With finances, trust me.
15,000.
I'm going to make sure you good.
No, I'm good.
Bicycle, a plastic bicycle with 15 grand is not a good decision.
I don't care how much money you got.
I'm good.
You're not good.
You got me some jewelry.
So if you make any more, any more rational purchases without consulting me, I'm gonna
beat you up.
That's it.
You think, let me ask you a question.
You think my financial guy, you think my financial guy doesn't know everything that I've ever purchased since 1996.
Matter of fact, if they agree on you making a purchase like that and say yes, it's okay because of what you have, then I'm gonna beat them up.
Yeah.
How about...
That's the whole point, Ocho.
Right.
Is that you told me I gotta get some enjoyment out of my life.
Right. And not buying a 15,000 dollar buy.
So what was I going to do with it?
Let me ask you a question. Yes.
Be honest. Be honest to me and me in the chat because we all family.
Yeah. When the last time you rode that bike.
Man, I rode the bike.
I rode that bike once.
See what the fuck you talking about, man?
Wasted money, man.
You don't do that.
You don't do that.
I rode it once.
You got me hot, man.
You don't do that.
I rode that bike once 15 years ago.
Come on, man.
Jesus Christ, you don't do that, man.
You don't treat money like that.
I'm good.
I promise you.
Yeah, I know you good.
I'm good, too.
You see this hot 60 in my hand? I'm good, too. We all got, I know you. I know you good. I'm good, too. You see this hot 60 in my hand
I'm good, too
Money we all got that fatty. She's the only one
But like I said, oh Joe, I mean you think about it when I went I
played and
I saved because I had kids and I want to make sure they were straight and then you know
It was uh
i'm i got at some point in time about you i gotta enjoy my life
because guess what i'm a leader i enjoy your life you don't spend 15 000 on some
and and and ride at one time that's not enjoy your life that's what i enjoy
that's not a good that's not a good financial you see when i go to my home
and i see that back i was like okay i work you see like. You see, like you, you like vacations, you like cigars, you like
doing certain things. I like my kids. I like cigars and I like gaming.
You know, and I don't I don't spend 15000 on that.
I might not spend 15000 in a year.
I just think that unless unless you sleep in on the bridge.
Who? You. Oh, shit, I don't pay the bills. Just let's go unless you sleeping on the bridge Who you oh?
Shit, I don't pay the bills
So you know
Somebody to my 15,000 would change lives. Well, go ahead change somebody life with it
Go ahead
Everybody that would kill me people like like man, you did that. You
know what? Okay, go ahead and do it. If that's all they're gonna take the chain line, go
ahead and drop 15 bands on them. Oh Joe, before we go into our next topic, olive pop is a
new kind of soda. It tastes great and it has less than five grams of sugar and my favorite player flavor is ginger ale. We got a
Now y'all have me up now you're gonna have me up all night going to the bathroom
Know my bladder the size of a quarter drink the whole thing like a beer
Go go go go. I saw this door
Go, go, go, go, go. I saw it in the store today.
Oh, paycheck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm feeling good.
And it got fiber in it.
Cause you know I eat a lot of protein.
So, you know, if you eat a lot of protein,
you got to get fiber, man.
You'd be, woo, have to go ahead and have to cut it at you.
Go get an enema.
That ain't nice.
I like M&M too.
No, an enema.
Oh.
You like M&M too?
No, I thought you said M&M.
You talking about the rapper or you talking about the candy?
No, I'm talking about when you constipated, they give you an enema.
Oh, where they put the thing up your...
No, it's a tube of water.
They ain't put no finger.
Oh, Joe.
Damn.
No?
No, it ain't no finger.
It's water.
Warm water solution.
It's a solution. Hey, you know your girl could do that. You ain't no finger. It's water. Warm water solution is the solution.
Hey, you know, your girl could do that.
You never did that.
Do what?
Like, like if you know.
Now you just you cock your legs open, let your girl know.
We're going to talk to nothing up.
The only thing I'm talking to this pistol with somebody come up in this house.
I will talk to you. I'm a cock. I'm a cock.
I'm a cock this man.
That's the only thing to get cocked up in here.
I can't call it over, but they shade like they cock it.
Nothing. Oh, oh, hey, you got to try.
And now you talk about living a little bit, having a little fun.
Nah, oh, she ain't trusted that.
Oh, no. Hey, listen, I'm just I'm just telling you.
No, no, no.
Try to let up.
Let it just let tell them.
I don't know who I don't know who you people are.
That ain't my business.
Like let it let it put you in the book.
Right. You know, with the book, then you watch your man.
Oh, no. Listen to me, man.
Talk to me. So I'm having a good time.
Right. Man, you have me to call the case.
Man, I don't play like that man.
I don't play.
Hey, if I tell you what, anybody that know me will tell you.
Nah, he don't play like that.
I don't play like that.
You talking about having fun, huh?
Yeah, that ain't no fun, that ain't fun to me. You gotta explore, huh?
No, I ain't.
No.
Let her suck on your toes and work her way up, man.
I'm telling you.
I don't need to be in the book to do that.
Yeah, but no, she gotta put your legs back.
I keep my seduction. You ain't gotta put nothing back.
Man, you watch your damn back.
Alright, don't worry about it.
I'm just trying, I'm just trying to help you out. You talk about you want to live.
We got to try.
I got the ridge rush too.
I like the ridge rush, but I'm a ginger real guy.
Look, my grandma got me drinking ginger real because anytime you was sick in the South,
Hey, get that boy some ginger.
And so I grew up drinking ginger real, but not hell nah man.
I don't play like that.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
I got you.
I got you.
No problem.
But, but, uh, I don't play like that.
I don't play like that.
I don't play like that.
I don't play like that.
I don't play like that.
I don't play like that.
I don't play like that.
I don't play like that. I don't play like that. I don't play like that. I don't play like that. I don't play like that. And so I grew up drinking ginger ale, but not hell not man.
I don't play like that, don't you?
Yeah, okay.
I got you, I got you, no problem.
But if you eat a lot of protein, I eat a lot of protein,
but I eat a lot of fiber's carbs.
So I eat a lot of veggies and things like that.
I get a lot of roughage.
Cause you know, like I said, I eat five meals a day
and I'm getting about, I'm getting somewhere between 10 and 12 ounces
of protein in each setting.
So, keep me, keep me strong.
The Ravens are among the teams which have made an addition
at the wide receiver spot, Ocho.
The Baltimore Ravens added Deontay Johnson
from the Panthers agreeing to a day three pick swap
with Carolina retain much of his remaining salary. When about the trade Deontay said once I find out where I was going I
was like excited I was like whoo I'm ready to work I know that's a relief I
think that got that got to be a relief for him being able to go over be able to
go to the Ravens obviously who are contender after leaving what most would
call the dumpster fire over there.
Oh man, he went from the Marlins to the Dodgers or to the Yankees or to the Phillies.
That's a good one.
Man, come on now.
Yeah, I know. I know what you mean.
But, but let me see.
We got Rashad Bateman.
We got Aguilar.
We have.
Flowers.
Flowers.
You got Likely, you got Andrews.
And Deontay Johnson. That's nice.
I mean, you straight.
It's only one ball and they run the ball 25 third times a game.
Ain't too many of them balls to go around that.
But run it.
Oh Joe.
Derek Henry can run you to a championship.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Most definitely.
Most definitely.
What?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
There are a few teams, there are a few teams in NFL
that are structured from the first level to the second level
to stop that shit now.
Well, you're gonna have to show me you can stop it.
You're gonna have to show me you can stop it
with a light box.
Okay. I see what you mean.
I don't believe there are not, maybe, maybe,
maybe Kansas City can
With a seven-man box what we call a light box
Leland just did
They came level and carry the average six and a half yards of carry. Are you right? You're right? You're right?
You're right. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take that back
Take that back. No, no Todd monkeys stopped him. They did there wasn't a light box
It was Todd monkey not giving him the carrots.
Self-inflicted.
Yes. Self-sabotage.
Man, please.
I'm giving, hey, he gonna get his touches, Ocho.
I'm gonna make sure that man get his touches.
Right.
Lions wire receiver Jamison Williams
could face his third suspension by the NFL
after recent gun incident.
Detroit Free Press reports Williams had a gun in his brother's car during a traffic stop.
He did not have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Prosecutors are investigating the failure
to arrest Williams at the scene. What happened was the police realized who he was. They got an
opportunity. Man, they got to be something special
Detroit pay for freedom of information act started digging like women watch
But anyway, the police officer could face charges of their own
It's all happening while we've been serving us to gain suspension for violating the PEDs
He's eligible to return Sunday after the game guys Guys, if you're gonna get a firearm, get it registered.
Get a firearm permit, a concealed weapons permit
to carry it.
Bro, come on, man, I know.
Ocho.
D, bro, he don't like his money.
He don't like money.
He got suspended six games last, what suspended six games last year, Ocho, for betting on football.
He just got suspended for two games.
Hold on.
Hey, you say he was driving in the car.
You got pulled over, right?
His brother was driving.
I guess his brother, he was in the passenger seat.
His brother was driving.
Yeah, well, his brother's he was in the passenger seat. His brother was driving
Yeah, where's brothers to take that
He's supposed he's supposed to take that when the officer comes you have any
Then he said yeah two of them one in the backseat one on the passenger seat. Oh
You ride like you're riding right? I mean what you expect to pop off
damn I mean, what you expect to pop off? Damn.
Oh Lord. I ain't even got nothing for that,
but I can't fight for that one, that boy.
Yeah, man.
Hey.
You know, I'm not sure how Detroit State works
as far as being able to carry.
I know at home, you know, at the crib,
I mean, now it's open carry state.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah know at the crib you I mean nice open carry state. Oh, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got damn license. No, goddamn
Yeah, I mean I used to have a car. I had a car you had a concealed weapons card
But now they let you take that thing anyway, you could take it anywhere
That's why you have to be careful in the south because in the south a you run up on somebody they got that thing took
Yeah Hey, you run up on somebody and they got that thing. Talk. Yeah. All that road rage.
You get out your car, walk it up on somebody.
You let you have it.
They have you doing the macaroon in the street.
Man, please, they get your button up, man.
Hey, the day.
Yeah, you see, that's why they hit every time they're power.
Oh, power. Oh, pow, pow.
Lead them people along.
Hey, somebody cut you off?
Go ahead, bro, obviously you in the area.
I, when people cut me off,
I tell them speed on, hell ain't full yet.
That's what you trying to go to.
Yep, that's a good one.
But hey, I ain't finna,
now back when I was young, old, young Shay, you know, hey, I drive in front now back when I was young old young shape. Yeah way I
Drive in front of me now slow down
Yeah, not not now what now all of a sudden oh you got a problem you cut me off
I just did the baby turn the paper right not no more. Oh Joe people. Let you have it out there. Yeah
Well, we let let you have it out there. Yeah, they.
Well, we let each other have it. We let each other because you best believe, hey, don't play that.
But I just come on, Ocho.
Guys, we got to be smarter than this.
But I get if this is here is the thing, if it's his brother's car
and he's his brother's driving up a passenger,
I'm good, hey, that ain't got nothing to do with me.
Right.
I don't know what you want me to say.
Hey, I'm just a passenger in the car.
Damn, man, fuck, man. I hate, I hate.
It's like one thing on top of another.
Yeah.
I think it was Texas.
A dude road rage and the dude got out.
It was beaten on the guy's window.
Yeah, he shot him.
Did he?
Man, you coming somebody
into threatening manner, you yelling and screaming.
Right. Just roll of the matter,
you yelling and screaming.
Right.
Just roll down the window, let him had it.
I think it killed him, didn't he die?
Hey, even though he wasn't a threat?
Yeah.
Yeah, no, hold on, Ocho, what he did,
he walked up, he had his thing to the side.
Oh, now that's a different story.
Now you talking.
Even if he didn't have it,
you can't walk up on somebody, babbling on their window. You're approaching someone in a
threatening manner. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. You gotta be, hey, just, hey,
just let it go. Why would you walk up? Listen, once you, once you draw, uh, call the rule number one,
if you from the crib. If you don't pull it out you better let it go
Got to let it go. You got to let it go. Got to let it go. I
Don't know and look like I said man, that's why I don't play I don't play with it. I don't I don't show nobody
It is what it is. It's where it's supposed to be. Oh
And it is stay there.
And I do everything I can to make sure
I don't have to use it.
Nope.
Yeah, I mean, but, but in the South,
like I said, and you never know.
You can take it in, you can take it in,
you can take it in the church,
you can take it in stores,
or you can't have it on federal,
unless you're a federal officer, you can't have it on federal property. But anywhere else, I don't know, but I'm saying in the south,
especially Georgia, you run up on persons talking crazy if you want to.
Yeah.
Thinking you could take somebody because you're bigger.
Okay.
Exactly right. That's it.
You're okay. Yeah, exactly right.
That's it.
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Okay, you're gonna lose again.
Here we go.
Oh, I first.
I first.
How you first?
You went first the other day.
I won.
You don't get to go first, we alternate.
Why would we alternate if I won?
What sense does that make?
So let me ask you a question.
If you take one on one in basketball,
is make it take it.
No, no, no.
So in football, so you score a touchdown,
they gotta kick the ball off to you again?
If you score a basket at basketball.
We're retired.
I'm just asking you a question.
But if this is one on one,
you talking about five on five.
We ain't playing one on one.
Oh, I noticed that.
You didn't say that when I was winning rough draft.
You talking about, oh, you went first the other time. You know what? Oh, I noticed that you didn't say that when I was winning rough draft you told me oh you went for you
Went first the other time
You know what go ahead you gonna lose anyway. Don't worry about it. Well, you know what don't show I
Gotta go where it all started. I'm gonna go with the Jordan ones. I'm gonna say Jordan was
This I know you're gonna lose what?
Cuz I'm going Air Force once okay, Okay. Something that goes with any and everything.
I'm going with the Jordan 11.
I'm going with the Chuck Taylors.
I'm going with the Jordan 3.
Oh, shoot.
Yeah, you stuck like Chuck.
It's over.
Like Air Max. It's like here, it's over.
I'm not even I'm not even picked no more.
You did you just you just picking George.
I'm not going to say there's no diversity in your picks.
Best sneaker all time.
Air Force One Chuck Taylors.
You know what?
I might put some zips or some pro kids in there just to give you a chance.
That's nigger ball time.
Hold on, wait, hold on, where you going?
I'm going, it's my turn.
Oh, it's your turn.
You got Air Force One Chuck Taylors.
And I said Nike Air Maxes, right?
You did?
That's what he said, Air Maxes.
Yep.
The 95s, classics.
So what you got? Or is? That's what he said. Air Max's. Yep. The ninety five classics.
So what you got? Or is me?
No, you just read it. OK.
I would go join force.
I'm going to go with a question.
You know what?
I'm gonna go LeBron eight.
What are the easiest?
I like that.
Which one? more the Yeezys I like that which one shit was it 350s maybe okay
you want honorable mention my honorable mention you don't get to go. Oh Joe you just selected. Oh my bad my bad
You know what
I'm gonna go Katie's the art pearls
My honorable mention is Tom's a croc Tom slash Crocs I'm going to go to my honorable
I'm going to go Nike Kobe's. Alright, you got the Grinch. You got whatever you want, whatever shoe you want, whatever shoe you want to take, which one you want to take.
You got you kind of won. You kind of won this time though.
I mean, I'm just being honest. You got you kind of won this
time because I'm this is this is like not an area of expertise
for me. I'm not a I'm not a shoe guy.
We can tell you.
I'm not a shoe guy.
Well, okay, we'll make it.
What did you want the next one to be?
Fruit?
Nah, it doesn't matter.
Just everything else.
I've won like the last four or five rough drafts.
So this one I could let you have.
Okay.
You need one more honorable mention shoe.
So this one I can let you have. Okay.
You need one more, you need one more honorable mention shoe.
Let me think of something that like honorable mention,
a shoe that I like and I enjoy.
Oh, you know what?
What?
Back when I was a little shorty.
What'd you have?
Etonics.
Huh? When I was a little,y. What'd you have? Etonics. Huh? Remember Etonics?
Yeah.
I'm gonna go with Etonics,
cause I had every color, purple, orange, red.
I'm surprised you didn't take Belos,
or Zilps, or Pro Kids.
Not about Belos, man.
I should have said truth.
Yeah, I'm gonna be true.
Yeah.
Man.
Whew. Yeah. Man. Oh.
OK, Ocho, excuse me.
Yeah, now is time for Spello Cinco.
Are we spelling tonight?
Hold on, let me stretch.
Let's let your boy stretch.
That was the problem with me last week
because I hadn't stretched.
So, you know, when you stretch, it eases your mind.
It's like doing yoga.
It's like doing, it's like doing Pilates.
You mean Pilates?
Huh?
Like Pilates?
No, it's called Pil it's called Pilates.
What's that?
Like where they, where they standing with their legs crossed?
No, that's not, that's a, that's a yoga pose.
Pilates is like when they're on the reformer or the mega reformer.
What you know about reform? like when they're on the reformer or the mega reformer.
What you know about reform? I know about Pilates,
because I used to take Pilates
and I've been on the reformer.
Pilotes.
No, I don't know nobody on the Pilotes, but okay.
All right, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.
Hey, chat, y'all, hey, put your money up in bed
with your boy, put your money up. bed with your boy Put your money up. Oh
I got a hot 60
Ecoplasm
Ecoplasm no ectoplasm is ecto right? I mean see there we go see we did every go
Make up your mind. Yeah, it's ecto ecto
Okay, here it is, Ocho.
Ectoplasm. Your word ectoplasm.
Can you use it in a sentence, please?
As you put this, as you put it up on the board.
On the board. Yep.
We got a graphic for that.
You just asked fellow Cinco graphic.
Oh, I got my phone in the way. Where's that?
Ectoplasm is a substance that is believed to reduce spirit materialization and telekinesis.
How do you don't know? You don't even know. OK, listen, you think that man is Gryph Howard.
He knows all those words.
He has a thing right there that could tell him.
Okay, $20 bet.
I get this right.
Go ahead.
Put your money up.
No, Ecto Ecto.
I know Ecto.
It has to be Ecto plasma TV.
So I might be wrong, but whatever.
Plasm ectoplasm P L A S M.
And that is correct.
You see how I did that plasma TV, Ecto.
Yeah, I see how you look in the chat.
Oh, so here you go.
Yes, you don't like that.
When you hear you go, how I'm looking in the yeah. See now you don't like that. Do you hear you go?
How I'm looking in the chat and I'm looking right at my camera.
OK, the nuts word is gruesome.
Gruesome, gruesome.
Aidan Hutchison suffered a gruesome injury.
Gruesome, gruesome.
G.R.U.E.
You know what? I'm confused.
G-R-U-E. Is it S-U-M-E or S-O-M-E?
Groupsum.
Well, sum is, yeah, I'm gonna go S-O-M-E.
G-R-U-E. S-O-M-E.
That is correct.
Okay.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Put your money up. Y'all don't want to correct. Okay. Put your money up.
Y'all don't want to bet none chat.
Put your money up.
The next word is ritualistic.
Ritualistic.
Ah, that's easy for me.
That's easy for me.
You know why it's easy for me?
Why is rich ballistic?
Because I went to Harvard.
I didn't go to Harvard for nothing.
I went to Harvard because I was a scholar. And a champ when it came to Harvard. I didn't go to Harvard for nothing. I went to Harvard because I was a scholar and a champ when it came to spelling. Ritualistic. R-I-T-U-A-L-I
R-I-T- hold on let me spell it out. Hold on. Hold on.
This is how you write. You know you can't write. You can't use a pen. No, I don't. I don't.
I don't want to spell it. Oh, I can't know.
OK, all right.
Rit RIT.
You a L.
I asked.
Tic ritualistic.
I got it right, right? Yep.
I know I did, because that's what I do.
What you talk about?
Your next word is mausoleum.
Stop playing with me.
What you talk about, man?
Take that, take that, take that.
Mausoleum.
Who?
One of the eight wonders of the
world was the mausoleum
of holoconosis mazalium
Mazza mazza mazza mazza Liam mazza now I could be wrong but based on a pronunciation of what you just said
Mazza it has to be maza
Now Liam is the part where I probably have a little problems
But when I think about Liam, I think about Liam Nielsen.
You know, from the movie Taken.
Mazza Liam.
I know that made no sense.
That made no goddamn sense.
Mazza, Mazza Liam.
Here, I'm gonna just guess it real quick.
M-A-Z-A, Liam, Liam, Liam, Liam.
L-E...
L-E-A, Liam, Liam, Liam, Liam, L-E,
either UM or AM, one or the other. I could be wrong either way.
Which is it?
Liam, fuck.
Which one, which one, huh?
That would be cheating if I helped, and I'm not a cheater.
Mazza. Mazza Liam. Liam. Liam Ham. Liam Nelson. So I'm just I'm gonna copy his name. M-A-Z-A-L-I.
M-A-Z-A-L-I-A-M.
M-A-U-S-O-L-I-A-M. M-A-U-S-O-L-E-U-M.
I was completely wrong. You were? I was completely wrong and you just led me, you led me astray.
I did not. I told you it was the mausoleum of holoconossus. It was one of the great...
Tell us about...
Tell us man. What I went? What I went? Uh, talisman.
What I, what I went, what I went.
No necromancer.
What is he?
The necro necro necro is pronounced necromancer.
No, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't know. N.E. C.R.O. M.A.N. C.R.
That's not fair.
You just gave me a word that you had trouble pronouncing, therefore, I
wouldn't have gotten it right because you didn't know how to pronounce it the
right way.
No, I know. I knew that's why I said Necro because it's dead.
Like necrophilia is the having relations with a dead body.
So Necro. So Necromancer.
Huh?
I never heard of that. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. There are serial killers that they they perform.
It's called necrophilia.
Oh, yeah. I'm good. I'm good.
I don't like the thought of that.
It's the practice of communicating with the dead to gain knowledge
or influence in the future.
What we got next, What we got next?
Yeah, these are Halloween, I said Halloween themes.
Oh, tell us, tell us.
Talisman.
And here's the definition.
It's an object, typically an inscribed ring or stone that is thought to have
magic powers and to bring good luck
talisman I
Was supposed to spell it. Yeah
Well, you ain't tell me okay. Yeah, go ahead
You just spelled it already. No, I said it's an object
Typically and inscribed ring or stone that is thought to have magic powers and to bring good luck.
I gave you the definition.
Say pronounce it again.
You pronounce it real quick.
Watch this.
Towelsman.
Towelsman.
T-A-L.
I-S-M-A-N.
Towels.
Towelsman. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I S M A N Tows, Tows.
Yes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well that was easy.
I thought you were going to give me some hard.
Yeah. Whatever.
I went, I went four for five, right?
You went four for five.
Haha. That's what I do.
That's what I do.
Huh? That's that Harvard education.
Here we go.
Now it's time for dunk on Unc, Halloween edition.
Halloween edition.
I hope y'all bet on me, chat.
Oh, this is a good one.
Hey chat, y'all gonna like this.
Chat, I'm telling y'all gonna like this.
Dunk on Unc, Hollywood edition.
Halloween.
I mean, my bad, what did I say, Hollywood?
Yeah.
I'm trippin'. Okay, here we Hollywood. Yeah, I'm tripping.
Okay, here we go.
You already. Yes.
What famous horror movie slasher is known for wearing a hockey mask.
Oh, what famous movie horse movie slasher is known for wearing a hockey mask.
Friday the 13th.
And his name is Jason Jason Borges to be exact.
OK, there we go. There we go.
W.E.M.L. dot com.
OK, listen, that was pretty.
Hey, my three my three year old knew that one.
What famous comedian start alongside Angela Bassett in the black vampire
film titled a vampire in Brooklyn?
Andy Murphy.
Uh, thing, ding, ding, ding, ding.
You are correct.
Come on down.
We go third question.
Third question, which 1992 horror film starring Tony Todd as a vengeful
spirit with a hook for a hand.
1992.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I give you a hint.
What his ops was Peter Pan.
I don't trust you. You give me.
I don't trust you, Ocho.
1992. Listen to the key words I said.
Which 1992 horror film starring Tony Todd has a vengeful spirit
with the hook for a hand.
I don't know.
Let's see.
Give me something.
I just did.
I don't know.
Candyman.
I don't know what.
Okay, you got it right.
It actually is Candyman.
You lied.
Yeah.
I don't remember Candyman having a hook for a hand though.
Give me some, give me some, you got to go back to like when Halloween was first
started or what, why the colors are orange and black.
I need something like that.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Don't get, don't get beside yourself.
Naked.
You don't get it wrong.
All right. All right.
Don't get, don't get beside yourself, Naked.
You don't get it wrong.
Which iconic music video directed by John Landis
is set in a spooky haunted setting
and features some of the most famous zombie dance moves?
Yeah.
They call it.
They call it the thriller. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. They call it. They call it the thriller. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
You you you on the road right now. You're on the road. Why
the I can't lose. I'm four for four. Kind of got that
candy man went wrong but I'm gonna let you slide. What
1984 Halloween song by Ray Parker Jr. became a theme song
for one of the most popular.
Who you gonna call?
Supernatural.
There's something strange in the neighborhood.
Good.
Who you gonna call?
Ghostbusters.
Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da.
Ain't afraid of no ghost.
Ghost?
Ha ha ha.
Let's go.
Let's go.
I was plugged in tonight.
I told you I was logged on.
Listen, it ain't hard to be logged on or
plugged in when it comes to Halloween questions, but there's only so much you can
ask.
Here we go. You go ask me, you know, when
the Halloween start in America, something like that, something I will have to really like, D, what when the Halloween start in America or something like that, something that will have to really like D.
What year the Halloween start in America?
To the best of my, the best of the recollection of scholars.
They said it happened sometime around the 1840s.
Don't tell me around 1840s.
I need to, that's what scholars say.
They didn't give a definite date.
They didn't say 41, 42, 44. They said't give a definite date. They didn't say forty one, forty two, forty four.
They said around the 1840s.
So I just.
Yeah, I don't even sound about right,
because I don't think the scholars is right.
But anyway, see when the Halloween.
Here you go. Last question.
OK, the urban legend of Bloody Mary has many variations,
but which which which city's version of this legend includes her as a ghost of a Creole woman
often tied to mysterious history
of the voodoo and the religion.
Hold up, that's six.
I only got five.
See, you want me to miss one.
That ain't six.
That is.
One, two, three, four.
Oh, that is five.
Five for five.
I'm gonna let you.
You got lucky.
You got lucky.
You went five for five on kindergarten questions.
I ain't the biggest, I ain't the biggest Halloween guy, man.
I mean, listen, I'm not, well, I'm a huge spelling guy, man.
I'm a grammar enthusiast, so I take pride in spelling.
That was a good one.
Well, Halloween?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Halloween, no.
Jack-o-lantern.
They said the American Halloween customs to North America came in the 19th century.
19th century. 19th century.
So they people didn't dress up at first time.
Oh, oh well.
I don't know.
Now it's time for Q and a Q and a.
in a q a.
Why I said, what's the worst trouble you got in on Halloween?
I mean, I mean, living in the country, you didn't go trick or treating. We go trick or treating.
So I never get no trouble for Halloween.
And we know not to ask.
I mean, we know not to ask because Greta Granny Pop was going to say, no, you ain't
going.
So like, like when I, when you already know the answer, why ask?
Right.
Barney Berry was gonna play that.
And then, you know, they had that thing.
Somebody might be putting razor blades or be like, that was it.
They were letting it go anyway but once they...
Hirie Negron said, Yon is to the Warriors. What do y'all think?
Well, Dan, the season just started. We already talked about trades already?
They got the brakes bit off them again tonight.
They lost again?
Yes.
Was it bad? Yes. They got beat by like 25 by the
Grizzlies. I think 25. Mm hmm. Ain't got no defense that down. Well, they
should have never got rid of holiday, but in order to get Dane, they had to
give up holiday and then in Portland did a masala and shipped into Boston
With JB JT and Derek white and big I'll and they got prasingas so they basically made a super team
Yeah
They should have did everything they could
To get to keep holiday, but that was the only way they could get damed. They needed another score. They wanted, look, they're doing everything they possibly can to appease Johnny's other than give him the Harley-Davidson thing in Milwaukee,
because that's what a Harley-Davidson headquarters are in Milwaukee.
The plant. But yeah, they're in trouble.
Wommard said, what's up, I can know you're on founder of CEO or Rubler
social media application.
We launched in July and we're taking off.
Can we get a shout out?
We have all the same features as legacy middle, legacy media.
Love you guys, guys go and go lions.
So what is it?
Is it like Twitter?
Is it like, uh Is it like IG?
Anybody ever heard what Rue Blur is?
You ever heard of it, Ocho?
No, sir. No, sir.
Not familiar with it, but I'm sure once we look it up, we will be.
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Leota Rose said, Hey, nightcap uncle Nocho, thanks for the advice last time.
I want to know when it was the last time you guys had to push yourself
past your limits, preserve what motivated you to keep going.
Every day I train, I push myself past the limits.
Yeah, because only a person willing to go too far can possibly know how far he can go.
If you don't question yourself when you're training, you're not training.
If you don't ask yourself, man're training, you're not training Right if you don't ask yourself man, when is this gonna be over? How much longer? What am I doing this for? Where am I going?
What are we doing?
Because I need to know Ocho in the third fourth quarter overtime if necessary I can call on my body and it will answer
because I've already pushed it past anything that I've done in this game.
So that's normal every day here.
I get very limited sleep.
My challenge, you push yourself, you push yourself.
Yes, I know.
That's what greatness requires you to do is to push yourself beyond what you believe you think you can do.
I'm a very self motivated person, so I didn't need extra motivation.
I didn't need coaches to get me going.
I'm a very, very driven person.
And I see once I saw what we could become and what could this become?
Ain't no turn so that's me all the time
But it was it gets a lot easier to push yourself for me
To exhaustion I mean Oh Joe I would I would get my heart rate up to a hundred and eighty beats a minute
And keep it there for an hour hour and a half. I I mean, oh Joe, I would, I would get my heart rate up to 180 beats a minute and
keep it there for an hour, hour and a half.
I needed to know.
I got to know if I call on my body, it'll answer.
I'm gonna be there for me.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Ain't nothing worse than being able to try to pull out of reserve.
Hey, I knew a February return must be played on a daily basis.
That's the only way.
How do you expect to get money out of the investment when you didn't put it in?
I tapped in every day.
It would never die in my mind that I could call them this body.
I can call on it right now.
I said, you know, I said, Jordan, a little something, you know, a little work out,
just a little something to let him know, hey, hey, Jordan, hey, this ain't for you,
but it's for you.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, he like, damn, you know, I feel a kind of little something, you know,
drop a little 15 piece on him, you know.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
But keep pushing through.
Rambling on, Zach Jones said,
Megatron versus Ocho, who's better, be honest.
Ocho, who's Megatron, who you got?
See, Megatron.
What's up? Who Megatron, who you got?
See Megatron.
Megatron, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Sunday,
twice on Sunday.
Ramon said,
my uncle went to Savannah State with you, Ken.
Did you spell his name right?
Ken, did you spell his name right?
I knew a guy named,
I knew a guy named Ken. He was the, what they call the guy that's over the dorm,
like a RA?
He was a RA.
Yeah, and I don't know, but he was a RA. Yeah. And I don't know if, but he, and he was a, uh, he was a nuke too.
I would say what we called it, but I can't cause he might be married.
Uh, Leo for knowing what up shadow, y'all keep doing your thing.
Man, it's your boy birthday.
Love you, bro.
Haven't met you and Ocho,
but I look forward to it sometime soon.
Leo, happy birthday, bro.
It's not that, not Leo, I went to school with Ocho,
but happy birthday, bro.
We appreciate the support.
We always appreciate the support that our fans give us, man.
Everybody, man, every time I go somewhere,
man, I just watched you at Ocho last night.
Man, it's a great feeling to have the support
and to realize that we have way more support
than we have haters.
Oh yeah, most definitely.
Way more, way more.
And we're growing. Happy birthday, happy birthday, boy.
Happy birthday.
Let me know if you need a $60
and and nine yankorey what's up uncle don't show my brother and i'm having a debate if o'dell beckham jr the hall of fame or based on it was a car no guys o'dell's not going to the hall of fame
he was off to it he had a hall of fame start to his career he was having a hall of fame start to his career. He was having a hall of fame start to his career.
Rookie of the year.
He was going to the pro bowl, what made the pro bowl.
He was like a second team, like two or three times.
Nice.
He was having, he had a hall of fame start to his career, but injuries,
Cleveland, Los Angeles, the Ravens,
not Miami, no, no.
Like I said, he had a great start to his career.
Those first three years of his career, Ocho?
Yes, sir.
Was some of the best football we have seen.
Routine, spectacular highlight catches,
tremendous run after the catch.
But Allen Fletcher said, Uncle Nocho, who would win a one on one
ride receiver Travis Hunter or D.B. Travis Hunter?
Who you got one on one, Ocho?
Oh, that's a good one.
I think the receiver receiver.
I'm taking the DB. No
Lord Sterling said RIP my best friend Hershey Wilbur Sterling
It's a dog. Yeah
Bro, I know what you're going through. You don't have to tell me. I absolutely know what you're going through.
That hurt.
You feel like you lost a family member.
Because think about it.
You've had this, I don't know how long you had yours,
but a lot of my pets I've had, you know,
range the youngest I've ever had to put down
was three years and Baby was the longest.
He lived to be 14.
And I know I'm never gonna have another dog like baby.
I mean, five pounds.
I mean, when I got him, I got him and his brother Tarzan,
it was Taz and Tarzan, I could put him in my hoodie pocket,
Ocho, and they would both go in my pocket
and they would stick their heads out.
And I'd be walking in Target,
I'd be walking to Grocery Store,
and people are like, oh my, are they real?
I'm like, yeah, they're real.
I'm like, you think I'd be walking around with stuff?
Animals in my pocket?
A big grown man?
Yeah, absolutely real.
So, Lord Sturdy Man, sorry for your loss.
Hang in there.
Remember the great times.
Don't remember, hopefully you didn't have to suffer.
It didn't have to suffer. It didn't have to suffer,
but just remember there's a great time
that you guys have together.
That's kind of what got me through.
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said,
of all the shoes in your collection,
which pair has the best history behind it?
Maybe a Wild Night, a Memorable Game,
or just a crazy story.
Damn, what about,
I thought I had some, Or just a crazy story. Yeah. What about?
I thought I had some, what's, my shoes, did I have some,
yeah.
Oh.
That was a joy.
You still can't reach him.
You still can't reach him. It's not great.
It's not great.
What's
then let me see.
These are the cleats that I went over 10,000 yards in.
Okay. Hey, let me have it.
Yeah, send them for me. Send them to me.
As you can see, Ocho, can you see that?
It says what? Big Play what? What's that bottom?
Why I can't see that? Big Play shake?
Yeah. So even before the Big Play slay, that was a, a, a.
Right, right, right, right.
But you see the name.
These shoes I wore in 2004.
So somebody just didn't give me the name Shay last year
or a year ago, dumb, dumbs.
Cause you know, y'all quick to say, who come,
my teammates gave me this name.
But see back then Ocho, you could only have two colors.
So I had to cover the back of the shoe because the back of the shoe is orange.
So I had to take this up.
So this is, and I had to cover, you couldn't have no lame, no logo on it.
So the NFL made me cover it up.
So this is how I wore the shoe.
And the shoe is patent leather.
You know, but when I played, you had to be somebody to get a patent leather, you know, but when I played you had to be somebody gonna patent leather shoe
Everybody just couldn't walk out with no my custom cleats and all that hell now
Yeah
So this is probably but as far as sneaker
Probably my I got a pair
Good luck with those back up and George
Good luck putting those back up there, George. Yeah, you, hey, don't put them back up there.
Send me them, send that for me, man.
Send them to me with my...
I got these from Steph.
Them underarmors?
Yep.
I got a pair of, probably...
Kobe signed a pair of shoes that he played.
They played. They played Denver.
I'm trying. I don't remember.
I came maybe was 03.
He had black and purple.
Heraches and he signed them for me and gave them to me.
That's the only pair of shoes that I would never part with.
Right.
I would never part with.
And you know, yeah, obviously.
Well good, send them please for me and send them to me, with my wars and my Funko.
I can hang them up.
I got a couple of pairs. I mean, I gave a couple of pairs to my Funko. Yeah. I can hang them up. I got a couple of, I mean,
I gave a couple of pair of my tight end.
See these are the kind of bottoms I played in Ocho.
Let me see.
Oh, that's some studs.
I don't like them studs.
No, but these tempo bottoms, they're not studs.
Oh yeah, I played in the same bottom.
Yeah, you talking about studs.
They ain't no studs.
I got grass and everything in them and everything. Yeah, I had to take my glasses off
But that's my day doc, I mean
Yeah, Jordan good luck putting those shoes back up there
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