Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Bun B joins the show, DK Metcalf’s comments on moving to Steelers, & Jake Paul calls out Anthony Joshua!

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Bun B joins the show to talk about his new burger joint! DK Metcalf makes some interesting comments on the Steelers move, Jake Paul calls out Anthony Joshua & much more!06:14 - Bun B joins the show43:54 - Sheduer Sanders51:00 - Shannon’s old gadgets53:10 - DK Metcalf on Steelers move56:24 - Jake Paul calls out Anthony Joshua59:00 - Parents make kids pay bills1:11:15 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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trail burger But be what it do hey, hey, what's going on gentlemen? What's going on? Thanks for having the old man on it But what's up, baby was good. I see you. Oh, I see you shining over there And I'm bad little something man. You know, I got a little lotion on that's all it is Man, I'm bad. A little something, man. You know I got a little lotion on. That's all it is. A little lotion.

Boy, let me ask you this. Let's kick it off with this. Bun, when did you come up with the idea to start Trill Burger? I didn't come up with the idea. The idea was brought to me by two mutual friends of mine. One that I knew in a previous career as a clothing line designer, and the other I knew in a previous career as a podcaster for the Texas They both moved into new paths one becoming a restaurateur the other becoming a marketing and promotions manager of

Restaurants so the restaurateur Andy Wynn came up with an idea for a smashburger But smashburger phenomenon was already moving on the West Coast. He's from California. Right. He saw the trend starting to move east and he was like, if I don't catch it by Texas, I'm gonna miss the whole Smashburger trend. But I don't have a stronger brand out there. I need someone to partner with. And my other friend, Nick Scherfield, was like, well, I know Bun has had a food blog for many years called YouGottaEatThis.com.

Go check us out. And he was like, I know Bun's been looking for an entry point into the culinary space. I didn't want to do a full restaurant because there's so many different menu items and there's so many different ingredients that you have to stock. And a lot of things you lose if people don't come in

and buy that shrimp in a day or two, that shrimp starts to go bad by day three and you lose it. A lot of stuff gets lost. You know what I'm saying? So, but this was a very refined, very simple concept. I went and met up with him, I tried the burger and I thought not only was it one of the best burgers I'd ever had, I thought it was one of the best meals

I'd ever had. The flavor combination is incredible. Anybody that's ever had it will tell you they may have had good burgers, but no one has ever done with a hamburger what we've done. And what I mean by what we've done is we care about it more than I think other people care about a burger. Most burgers are afterthoughts. You know, something like I got 30 minutes for lunch. Where can I go and get something real quick? Oh, man, I left this club. I'm full of this liquor. I got to minutes for lunch. Where can I go and get something real quick? Oh, I left this club I'm full of this look. I got to try to soak it up with something

Yeah, you know, but we found a real sweet spot man, you know We found a way to not only introduce a better product into the public But also for me personally a way to transition my cultural equity that I built up in the entertainment industry into the culinary industry in a way that I can capitalize off of it a lot better than I could in the music industry because of the contractual agreements that I signed at a very young age. And with this, I was able to own everything outright with my partners. There was no investors as it was with the record company where you take that advance

up front. We did all of this out of pocket. We continue to do it out of pocket We don't take any money out of the company so that the company can grow be self-sustained So we don't need investors. I don't need finances from anybody and we just try to build something that we believe will last longer than we will Well, I like that. Hey, I want to go back would it being your birthday. You know, you turn a young, you're getting younger, you know. Listen, your recent birthday bonanza at Houston Rodeo, obviously it featured a diverse lineup, man. You had Keith Sweat, Don Tolliver, Yolanda Adams.

What inspired you to blend hip-hop, R&B, and gospel for this event? You know, we've done a lot of different lineups with my shows at the Houston Livestock Show at Rodeo. Last year was the first year that they'd ever had two full rap nights. One was my night and one was with 50 Cent and his tour. And it kind of started to get away from what the Houston Livestock Show at Rodeo, as far as Black Heritage Day, has always been. And that's been a very inclusive evening that was always family friendly. And with some of this rap music, it could get away from being a family-friendly environment very quickly.

And so the Rodeo was like, well, we would love to reset the bar. We appreciate what your hip hop contributions and all of the talent that you brought to the stage have done for the rodeo, but we think we need to reset the bar because if we don't, we're gonna lose the demographic. And that was the problem with the rodeo before was that the rodeo had aged itself out. The rodeo did not bring in hip hop and younger music

in a timely manner. So they started to age people away from the rodeo, younger people. And when I say younger, this may sound crazy, but when I say younger, I mean like 50 and under. Right. Right. There was nothing that was catering to them. Nothing in popular music was catering to them.

Nothing in popular culture was catering to them. And so there became a concerted effort to try to make sure that the people on stage Reflected the diversity of the city of Houston, which is arguably the most diverse city in America right now There's over a hundred spoken languages and so many different cross-culture things happening in the city And so we did a good job of diversifying it But at the same time you don't want to leave people. And I can tell that if we did one more show that was rap-centric, my mama wasn't

going to want to come no more. And most people's mama wasn't going to want to come no more. Because it can be a little much, the way people dance to it. I get it. There's an energy, and we want to bring energy and entertainment. But we don't want to do that and make sure that other people don't get something.

Isolate others. Absolutely. You know, my mother comes to the rodeo, my siblings, my wife's siblings, our children, our nieces and nephews, and now our grandchildren all come. So I got to, I wanted to make sure that I got something there for my mama and my wife's mother that they can relate to things that we can relate to, my children and my grandchildren. So that's why you get a keep sweat for us. You get a Yolanda Adams for the older,

more Christian grandmothers and aunties and whatnot. And you get a Don Toliver for a younger artist, Coco Jones for a younger artist, you know what I'm saying? And then of course for my base, you know, Luda T.I. You know, we hit them right in the chest with that hip hop. So we wanna make sure that when people come now, cause now it's become a tourist attraction, there's literally a lot of people that come down for this thing now. And I want to make sure that they get something.

And what, anytime you know the triple OG bun B is on it, you know it's going to be big. And you know he's going to do right. He's going to do right by H-Town because the H-Town down. He born and bred. Hey, he believe in that. And I love that, but I love the fact that the rodeo came to you and said, we really appreciate it, but let's not get too far away from what we intended the rodeo to be. Because while we're bringing in one demo, we're losing another demo.

How can we blend these demos together and grow it? So they still come, more of you guys still come, and guess what, we expand this thing. And a lot of people didn't really understand it because I don't tell everybody who's coming. I typically keep about two or three surprises to entertain people on the spot. So when I was saying, hey, I got Don Toliver

and I got Keith Sweat and I got Coco Jones and I got Yolanda Adams People don't see how that mixes in the room, right? Right people don't see how those genres blend together and people really didn't understand the vision We knew what we were doing the whole time. Yolanda Adams was specifically brought in to be a part of the immemorial Program where we honored all of the legends that have fallen in then we thought it was good to have some praise in the room I feel very blessed to have this opportunity. I've done this four times.

I've sold over 300,000 tickets in just four shows. We're averaging 74,000 people every time we've done this. So it's been a beautiful opportunity, not just for me, for my family, for my business. I've been able to pass it on to other people that grew up in Houston, dreaming of doing the rodeo. Now they've actually been able to do it. I grew up at a time where, you know,

you didn't even think that somebody that did hip hop music would even be on that stage. And now we exist where I live as an example to the next generation. Maybe one day I can do the rodeo like Bun B. You know what I'm saying? So we understand how deeply this thing resonates with so many different people,

and we don't wanna let people down, especially right now. I don't wanna seem like I'm leaving people out of something because this world is so divisive right now, and things are not really as inclusive. And I don't think people understand, no culture is more inclusive as black people, because black people understand

what it's like to be left out. So we don't want people left out of a good time. You know what I'm saying? And we know that you don't need a bunch of money to have a good time. So we try to make entertainment as authentic and realistic and approachable as possible for people. And I think we've been able to do that with Dorotea. Hey, bud, you know we've been making stuff out of nothing with no money for the longest time.

We don't need no money. So when I get $5, it's a party party. Hey, for sure. Hey, we had one of those hood parties, $20. Hey, we got the block lit. You know what we had? Bud, let me ask you this, bud. When you were growing up, did you go to the rodeo when you were growing up? Yeah, that was my first concert ever.

There's a big inside joke about it. The first concert I ever went to was Conway Twitty and Loretta Lynn when I was three years old. I was keeping that people country Conway Twitty. The whole line was going to Loretta Lynn. Yeah, my mom had gotten a car wreck and a man had hit her and she was very nervous because this was in the 70s, you know what I'm saying? She's a black woman by herself in an accident with a white man. She just knew for example that she would be at fault. But the police came, he told the police, it was my fault, she did nothing,

he took care of everything. And then he asked her, would you like some tickets to go to the rodeo, when the rodeo comes? And she said, sure, she gave him my information and address, and she never thought nothing of it. And a couple of weeks later, the tickets showed up. And so they took the family to the rodeo, and that was my first concert,

my first time ever being in the Astrodome You know I'm saying and it left a lasting memory on me like like one of my first musical memories is The Houston livestock show a rodeo concert and just you know over the years going every different time My wife shares these kind of memories my wife saw Michael Jackson for the first time at the rodeo You know a lot of people have you know you, you know, have a timeline of your life based on different experiences at the rodeo. The first time you went as a youngster, the first time your parents dropped you off,

because it's literally the safest environment you can be in at the rodeo. So there was a time when you get 15 to 16, your mama would drop you off at the rodeo during spring break, and you and your friends could hang out all night and then get picked up later because it was a safe thing. You know what I'm saying? So it's been a part of many people's lives over the years.

And now people actually have a real time experience at the rodeo and not just for when I perform. We have like a 9,000 square foot installation called Trill Town where we do the burgers, we do our Trill tenders, we have merch, trill lemonade. We have a bar You know basketball golf where people play little games win hats win merchandise So we've made it something that everybody that celebrates Houston culture can come in and feel comfortable I know that there are people from other races that

Feel funny trying to celebrate other cultures and mix company because they're not allowed to be as free as they would like to be amongst some of their own people. We provide a night where everybody can come and be who they want to be and nobody's going to look at you sideways because in order to enjoy it, you got to leave your prejudice at the door. If you don't like white folks, you can't come because white folks are going to be having a good time. If you don't like black folks, you can't come because black folks are going to be having

a good time. Straight folks, gay folks, Mexicans, Asians, everybody comes black folk gonna be having a good time straight folks gay folks Mexicans Asians Everybody comes out and they all having a good time So only way you can enjoy this leave your book your book stuff at the door Right and hopefully we believe that if people have a good enough time with other people of other cultures and make friends and learn things They maybe they won't pick it up when they leave and they can leave their prejudices outside for help That's live man. Listen, but when you're talking, when you're talking, I can hear the passion, enthusiasm in your voice, the way you're explaining everything.

It's a new life, old Chuck. It's a new life for me. Oh yeah. Listen, you've always been vocal about social issues. You know, you've engaged in various, various community initiatives in Houston. Man, what drives you still, you know, in your commitment to always give back to the community? And do you have any upcoming projects that you're excited about that you can tell us?

We in Houston as entertainers, athletes, what have you, we have a different relationship with the public as other places do. I believe that there are lines that are drawn, cultural lines, are drawn, cultural lines, neighborhood lines, other things that come into play in other major cities in America

where people can't really bond in the way that we bond. Right, like LA has cultural lines, it has neighborhood lines that some people can't cross. So that city can very, very seldom come together and unite. Same thing with New York. Some people might be from Queens or Brooklyn or whatever. In Houston, we had division maybe 25, 30 years ago between the North side and the South side.

That doesn't exist anymore. Everybody sees themselves as Houstonians, no matter who you are and where you come from in the city. So we've been able to build a connection with people that's different. People see us in the grocery store. People see us in the mall. People see us in restaurants, at car washes, in the gym.

We're very visible and we're very approachable and very personable. So people feel like when they buy our music, they're not just investing in music. They're investing in people. They're investing in neighborhoods. And they look at us as cultural exports. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like when you come to Houston, we don't brag about who the best Biggie, Jay-Z Nas we brag about who the best Slim Thug Kiki or Bun B You know, so it's called the kind of we have a lot of pride, you know, Texas has always been a self-sustained entity It was his own country So we didn't ever Felt fully embraced until very recently. Everything we wanted, we had to make it on our own. Entertainment wise, if you wanted to be a recording artist,

you know, a New York label or LA label was probably not gonna sign. So you had to go out, you had to make relationships with wholesalers and distributors and record stores and radio stations and club owners and all of that and make your way. And we all had to do it. So there's a common respect that we all have for each other

because we all kind of had to progress that particular path in order to make it. But it's the people, it's not just the artists, it's the people of Houston who don't look at us in that way. Yeah, there may be somebody that's never seen me before and might be excited to get a picture. But if you roll with me through Houston for 12, 14 hours, you hear a lot of, what's up OG? Hey, what's up B? What's up? It's not a lot of, oh my god, oh wow, because we don't put those kind of walls up with people. That's why the relationship with us is a lot different, you know what I'm saying? Now as far as projects, we are opening the second store probably within the next seven

days, seven to ten days, the second location. Trillburg will be open in Spring, Texas. We'll have two more locations, but by the end of the year, and I'm currently in Dallas right now with the wife, mainly, you know, so my anniversary, my birthday is four days apart, so I would never forget my anniversary. That's live. You know what I'm saying? That's what's up. So we spent the daytime, we're on the anniversary, letting our shop, we spent nighttime with me going to my favorite restaurant.

There's a Carbone here, it's a close to Carbone. I can get to it in Houston, that's my favorite restaurant. So we drove up here, we did a little shopping, went did some dinner with a good friend of mine, and probably look at some locations tomorrow, ride around Fresno and Plano and a couple of different spots, looking for a location, but we hope to be in Dallas some locations tomorrow, ride around Fresno and Plano and a couple of different spots, you know,

looking for a location, but we hope to be in Dallas and Austin by summer next year if lucky. Hey, Barney, what you think about Nightcap at the rodeo next year? Oh! I think there's room to possibly do it at my activation. Okay. Yeah. Because you have to understand,

I don't think many people understand what the rodeo is. The rodeo is a 21 day event. Yeah. I'm only one night of 21 nights. Okay. Of concerts that that take place in the NRG stadium, the football stadium. Yeah. They average about 65, 66,000 people a night. Easy. Wow. And so it's arguably the biggest music festival in the world that isn't promoted as a music festival. Cause we talking about 21 concerts, day after day after day in a football stadium. Right. You know what I'm saying?

It's a huge undertaking. Now that being said, my space, my wife thought of the idea of bringing in a DJ and a DJ booth and some space up there. So there is a stage now next year we can make it a little bit bigger okay what do we a little bit bigger yes absolutely right what you think about a cap and real time two thumbs up appreciate that oh we, we gon' A. A-A-O-G.

You know, we gon' circle back on this, Nitey. We real talk now. No, I'm open to it because I want to make it a bigger weekend for people. We realize now that, and, you know, you look at the music, Boots on the Ground and all this other soul that's blowing up right now, that black cowboy country western lifestyle that has always existed right now, that black cowboy country, western lifestyle that has always existed is now in the forefront. And my weekend at the rodeo is becoming a big proponent of that.

You know what I'm saying? It gives a place that's big enough for everybody. Because a lot of black rodeos, unfortunately, are still smaller. They still growing. They got a lot of momentum and energy, but they still growing. They're still smaller. My rodeo is the largest rodeo in the world. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? So you wouldn't have a larger audience to cater to with that type of movement and motion. My wife brought in DJ Payme from South Carolina. He's the biggest line dance and Southern Soul DJ in the country. And we had people, our space couldn't even hold how many people wanted to dance. They were dancing in the street. You know what I'm saying? It's just such a great way for people to come together and commune. That's what music has always been for people of color.

It's always been a reason for us to get together and commune. That, dominoes, playing cards, barbecue, crawfish, those are all excuses for us as a culture to come together and spend time together. We don't even like each other, but if so and so, who doing the barbecue? Trey doing the barbecue. All right, I'll come

Who could give a potato salad? These are doing potato salad. All right, I'll show up for that. It's an excuse to get together And so I'm looking at that We built something that now gives people that entry point if you don't know about it. You haven't had any experience This is a very easy entry point into this cultural representation. But for those of us that know, oh, it's a, it's a bad signal. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic

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Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially line mates, Nate. We're the Energy Line. We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, Hall of Famers, and wait to see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex. Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey

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Listen, your role as a musician, an entrepreneur, you're a community leader. Man, how the hell you balance all these different facets of your career and what keeps you motivated, baby? Because just listen to it. This is a lot. It is, it is. It's a lot. I think everybody everybody on this knows

that God doesn't give you more than you can handle. You just gotta figure out how to handle it, right? Yeah. Yes. I have an amazing support system. I have a beautiful, strong black woman as a wife in my corner. And the reason I've gotten this far is not because I know it all or I can do it all.

My wife refuses to settle for a lesser version of me. So when she know I'm not going all the way in and I give him a hundred percent she'll hold me accountable. You know you can do better than that you know you're supposed to be doing more than that. So there'd be a lot of times I want to phone it in I'd be like man I just want to stay home now why would you do that knowing you told them people you was gonna come. You know my wife I can't do it my wife knows my wife believes it has always believed in my greatness and when I don't do it. My wife knows, my wife believes, has always believed in my greatness. And when I don't live up to it, because she talks about it, she holds me accountable.

So I go out and do the rodeo and all that, and the next day I gotta come home and put the trash out. You know, I gotta pick up stuff in the garage. I gotta make sure I don't leave the kitchen light on. All those things. We have moments where we are very blessed that we get to see the world and travel the world and do all of that But every other day man, we are family trying to exist making sure our children our grandchildren are okay And we got a good home that's comfortable for us to live in You know, all I got to do is give her a house and she gonna make a home out of See see what you're already just saying. Oh, yeah. See I'm so about yeah now see what I've been telling you that But I'm trying to get him to settle down

But I'm trying I'm trying to get him to find my wife because listen the way you talking the way you explaining things It shouldn't be hard at the end what you just said, but she got to keep up with him though. That's the thing Yeah, I keep up with him. He got to find a woman. That's so busy. He get jealous. Oh Hey, listen Hey, hey, hey, hey, but we found one farm. He interviewed her not too long ago But just got wait wait till he she ain't got no time for we gonna find out where he's standing In that plane Planet vacation anything he can to spend time with that woman when he start oh Joe when he start disregarding things he don't normally disregard and

Right never sister start having to do things that he normally go and do yeah, he got something on his mind He got he got it. He got something on his mind. Yes, sir. I got one more question I got one more question This is good when I'm sure a lot of people in the chat would love to get his answer because I definitely want to hear Who are your top five Houston rappers? Oh man. Your top five, your Mount Rushmore. Now I'm just adding the fifth,

I'm gonna make it five instead of four. We gonna start with K Reno. K Reno is the OG of Houston rappers. He's the height, he's the epitome of what Houston rap's foundation should have been built on. So we had the right OGs to start it off with. Obviously Scarface, not just one of the best writers and rappers in Houston, but just, I mean, arguably the best storyteller that hip hop has ever had.

Ever. Very few people, I think only Tupac can really evade, it convey emotion through words on a rap song in the way that Scarface does. When Scarface talks about death, you feel that loss when he talks about his friends. You know, he phrased that as a song called Suicide. And I'm talking about, I had never heard a song about somebody delving into the psyche of somebody

that they thought was okay, but wasn't okay. And then you start to question making sure you're okay like this. So the depth of star faces of writing talents and mentality man have been criminally underrated in the world of hip hop. I think number three, you got to go Willie D. And Willie D has been about... Willie D is the prototype. Like, Willie D is the type of person that when you think of a Houston rapper meeting one in a dark alley, Willie D is who you project.

Yeah. You know, that's somebody that, you know, has stood on all 10 toes constantly, consistently, and still does. The fun thing about watching Willie D, one, he loved the culture just as much as he always had, and two, he bought that just as much as he's always been. There's certain things that you can count on,

and Willie D being about that life is absolutely one of them. He still leads by example, and he still makes us proud to be from Houston, and knowing that, you know, whatever you say in this world, you better stand on it, because with some people, it might be a fight with it. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Number four. Number four, I might have to go out on a limb here, man. I may have to go out on a limb with this one. I don't know how everybody's gonna feel about this. But I think Gangsta Nip may be one of the best rappers from Houston. And I'll tell you why. The only reason that people really didn't get into Gangsta Nip is because of the subject matter.

He did a lot of horror core. You know, he wrote stuff for Bushwick and a lot of his stuff was a lot of his music existed in this world of horror and gore and all of that type of stuff. Friday the 13 Jason, all of that type of stuff. Friday the 13 Jason, all of that type of stuff. But his flow in the mid-90s, in the early 90s, I mean, it's some of the best rapping I've ever seen and done in my life. And number five, I'm not gonna put Pimp here

because I feel like Pimp supersedes a lot of things in this argument. I'm gonna go with Killa Khalil. Um, I don't think anybody wants to be the best rapper in Houston more than him. I don't think anybody takes the art of lyricism as serious as he does. Now we got people that got a lot of motion. Maxo got motion. Megan has got motion.

Travis, OT, Walker. There's a lot of people from Houston, young artists up and coming talent, that have motion and have fan bases and are really making major moves. But when we talking about just rap rapping, like rapping and like looking in the mother fucker face and meaning what you say when you rap this stuff,

I don't think anybody conveys that more than Killer Cali-O. I think Killer Cali-O could potentially be the best lyricist to ever come out of the city of Houston. He just gotta, the problem is he got too much respect for his predecessors, and I feel like in some form or fashion as a competitor, at some point, you can respect the goat and still want to beat the goat at the same time. Right. I like it. At some point, you can respect the GOAT and still want to beat the GOAT at the same time. Right.

I like it. We're going to get you out of here on this one. Go ahead, Bunch. I'm going to wake up one day and say, man, F all that, man. F, BUN B and all of them. I'm going for the top. And that's when it'll be the best. Bunch, we're going to get you out of here on this one.

Which Houston team are you most excited about this year? Your Cougars, your Rockets, your Texans, or your Astros? Now, that's a great question. That is a great question It's always easy to be excited about the Cougars because then at this point That's a program that does this right as far as basketball that men's basketball team does this at this point They're one they've gone into the last four marches being heavily favored They've made it to the to the eight at least two three times I think I know the last two years for sure I think they got a great chance of going all

the way this season. So, but that's, at this point with that program, that's to be expected. These Astros are going through transition, right? We lost Braigman, that was a hometown hero. We love Alex Braigman, you know, as we lost Correa, we lost a couple of other guys, but we're bringing in, we always bring in young talent. That's been a great thing about Disastro's organization that the Cranes have always brought in and nurtured young talent.

They draft well and they build talent up. They don't look to just go out and try to buy a player. They're about winning several. They're not about winning this year. They want to win several years. They tasted it. They know what it takes to get there and they believe they can do it. But they're still in a little bit of rebuilding right now. Lost a couple of pitchers, got McCullis back.

So we're going to figure it out. They're perennial playoff team, right? But it's going to take more this year to get to that final step than I think it has over the last two or three seasons. The Rockets, I mean my goodness look at this young team You talk about a talented young team Tillman has done a great job of being like, you know what? We just got to start over Like it is we're not one or two players away. We're a team away But I mean he put this he put this team on his shoulders a green Jalen is an amazing talent I think he's a great leader. I think Thompson is a problem. I think he's a beast on that team. I really think. I haven't gotten to him. It took a while to figure out how to say his name. It took a while to figure out how to say his name. But we got the promise with that young boy. And this is this my thing. I understand that he grew up in the game of fundamentals, right?

But he playing with some dogs. I watched another day, trying to do a behind the back pass. He almost had it. They teaching him that blacktop ball, right? They don't have to teach him fundamentals. He know how to pass and all. They teaching him blacktop, No look passes in the paint when he finds that step that Yeah, that boy is gonna be a real problem

But I say I'll have to say this team has everything in the end and man you don't go That was he's the right coach. He's the right coach And I understand why he couldn't stay where he was, but I'm so glad he's where he is Bridgette At the city so happy to see them. At the City Love because they get to see me every now and then. So the City love that. Yeah. But them Texans. Man, man, them Texans.

I think in two, three years, man, I think they're going to be the ones to beat. Man, it could happen in the next two years. This team is building a strong structure. D'Amico knows exactly what he wants. The organization isn't scared to spend the money to give him what he wants. And they're so embraceable of the local culture. They do collaborations with local artists

and they bring in different talent to perform at the games. They allow me to bring my burgers into the stadium. They're doing everything they can to be as Houston centric and organization as they can be they putting the money where it needs to go They're trying to straighten that O line I know everybody wasn't crazy about losing tonsil, but I can understand organizationally why they feel they needed to go in another direction I hear there were locker room problems There were a lot a ton of penalties right a lot of things going on and I just think they were growing in a different direction I think that they supplemented the defense

Absolutely, they're probably gonna have to draft a little more and tighten up that whole line Because they got to protect CJ. They got to protect CJ by all means. I like the Kirk signing I like bringing Christian Kirk in and these think he's a fast young player, he's got some good talent. He definitely got hands. And CJ can hit him and strive, you know? Yeah. Cause I knew we probably weren't gonna keep Diggs

another season, I don't think we were gonna keep him another season, so they had to start thinking receiver, receiver, receiver. Tank had his surgery, he's a young guy. I think he'll recover quickly. I honestly think Tank will be ready by game one of a 25 26 season But I think the Texans are a team that everybody has got a circle a calendar dates when they play that team that defense is

Only getting better I'm curious to see what the new OC is gonna do I think that's gonna be the big test right is is what the new OC is going to be able to create with CJ, but at least they won't be as predictable in year two as they were in year three as they were in year two. Because year one was a lot of surprises. Year two, they pretty much tried to replicate the playbook and people saw it a mile away. With a new OC, I think there's going to be a new approach. I think he's going to find a better way of working with these new offensive lines.

I feel positive about what we're doing as a team. So I would put it in that order. I would say Cougs, Astros, Rockets, and Texans, four to one. Yeah. That's a liar. Hey, triple OG, Bun B. Bro, thank you for joining us. Congratulations on everything. The Trill Burger franchises, the rodeo, your big staple in the community, what you do to

uplift your community. We appreciate you We salute you here at night cap. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you down the road Absolutely. Thank y'all for doing that drop for the rodeo for me last year, too. Yes, sir I always go problem. Oh, you know that success We're gonna find some space to put y'all in that trail town next year company Not only hey bud, not only that let me perform. You know, I can sing now. I think we're breaking up. Yeah, we are.

I think we're breaking up, OJ. Metal OG, appreciate that. I love y'all, man. Thank y'all, brother. Thank you, bro. OJ, take off for a little while. I got to use the bathroom. Oh, you got to go?

You got to go? Hey, chat. Hey, chat, listen to me. Chat, real quick, you gotta go. Hey, chat. Hey, chat. Listen to me. Chat real quick. Listen to me. What y'all think about me at Rodeo in Houston next year performing? Now, there are many things I can do. I can dance, I can sing.

It could be gospel, R&B. I can do hip hop. There are so many different things I can do. So I think me being a part of the Houston Rodeo, even though I have no connection, I have no Wi-Fi, you know, to the Houston culture, but they are accepting of me because I'm very likable. I'm very lovable. And I think me being a part of that culture and what they have going on, it's a 21-day event. I could be part of all 21 days, you know? They got country. I know country music. I can line dance, you know, I can DJ. Like there's so many facets to that

that I can be part of when it comes to the Houston Rodeo. Chat, let me know what you think. Let me know what you think. Outside of that, I'm excited. I'm gonna just tell you about my weekend. I don't know what y'all have planned coming up, but tomorrow I'm flying to New Orleans. I'm flying to New Orleans.

I'm going back to the Mahalia Jackson Theater in New Orleans. I'm going to see Alvin Ailey Dance Company. I'm not sure about how many people in the chat know about Alvin Ailey Dance Company. I'm a huge, huge fan of the arts and dance. Movies like Mulan Rouge, movies like Chicago. I've been a huge fan of Alvin Ailey and Judith Jamison, former artistic director Robert Battle,

who's a friend of mine. I don't think he's artistic director anymore, but I'm going to see them. I'm very, very excited. Anybody in the chat, if you've never seen Revelations, if you've never seen all the pieces, the Revelations by Alvin Ailey, I employ you to watch it maybe tonight on

YouTube so you get a better understanding why I'm flying all the way to New Orleans to make sure I catch them live on stage. I'm excited due to COVID. I haven't been able to see them in what, three, four years, whatever it's been. So I'm really excited about that. That's my weekend. I wish I could see what you guys are doing this weekend. And that's pretty much it. That's pretty much it. I'm excited for the rest of the Runner Show tonight.

I don't know what we're gonna talk about. Other than that, that's it. Chan and Cam, Chan and Cam, I just wanna say hi. Hi to everybody, everybody in the chat, I love you. Ash, hi Ash, thank you for allowing me to lead the show while Uncle uses the bathroom. And if he comes back too fast, that means he didn't wash his hands.

Hi Jacob, hi Nikki and Marv and Alexis and Christian. And yeah, that's pretty much it. Hi Boost Mobile, how you doing? Hi Doug and Ryan. Who else? Hey to all my exes, I'm sure y'all are probably watching. I'm sorry things didn't work out. And yeah, that's pretty much it.

So chat, what else? What y'all wanna talk about? Oh, you want me to sing? Oh, tell me what song you want me to sing right now. Tell me what song. Wait, wait, wait. Won't they take away our monetization? No? Oh, so we're free and clear?

Okay, give me a song right now, Ash. I'm going to, I'm going to blow right now. Never too much with the band draws? Okay, give me a song right now, Ash. I'm gonna, I'm gonna blow right now. Never too much with the band draws. Okay, let me know you're ready. Okay, hold on. Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much. I can't fool myself.

I don't want nobody else to ever love me. You're my shining star. Hey, bro, what I tell you about second to song? My guiding light, my love, my fantasy. There's not a minute, hour, day. Bucky Brooks interviewed Shadour Sanders during Big 12 Pro Day Today. Bucky asked Shadour.

How you gonna interrupt my song? Bucky asked Shadour about the draft process so far, also about what's essential, what he's essentially been, a smear campaign against him. His answer is what you expect from Time Son. It's definitely a learning experience. There are a lot of things that aren't in your control and just getting the knowledge from your dad

and your just coach, family, friends, and everybody you know that's supporting me and helping me through this process is extremely important. And I'm thankful that I have those resources. We always understood block out the noise, even from Jackson State and Colorado. It's a lot of critics. It's a lot of hate, but we know what to do. We know how to handle that in every way.

So we remain happy. What do you take away from what Shador spoke to Bucky Brooks about today? Listen, Prime has prepared Shador for this day for a very long time, Monk. And he had the right person on his corner who also had to endure the same type of negative negativity in general from the media based on his style of play, the way he approached the game, things that had nothing to do with his play would always use it against him. Shadoor understands that. He should understand that because everything he's talking about has nothing to do with the game of football.

It had nothing to do with what he was able to do at Jackson State. It doesn't talk about him winning at Jackson State. It doesn't talk about him winning at Jackson State. It doesn't talk about him winning at Colorado, despite the obstacles he had to overcome. Despite having inadequate play at the O-line, still being able to complete 70% of his passes. They don't talk about none of that. They talk about the way an individual carries himself, his swag, the way he talks. Not about being in trouble. Nothing is talking about that.

Ridiculous stuff. Oh, showing off the watch. I mean, so what? It's all about having confidence. It's all about having belief. That's what it takes to play at the next level and be successful. The fact that they use that as a negative says more about them than it does Shadoor. And I hope he never changes and he continues to have success in all that he does.

Wherever he goes, you want to get a player like that that's going to change your franchise around. When someone comes out, comes out and says I want someone to draft me that wants a player that's going to change their franchise. That's something you want in the quarterback. I know it's frowned upon a little bit to have one that's as brash and as vocal as that, but if you look at the film, you turn the film on, you know what you get. It shouldn't be no problems at all. Yeah. I'm sure time prepared him for this. His dad prepared him for this. He's been at this, his dad has been at this for a very long time. He's been in the spotlight since his days at Florida

State. So he understands that there's a certain level of criticism that comes along with being the guy, with being a good, great football player. He understands that. Also it comes along with being a quarterback. And yeah, the objective is, I think the thing is, Ocho, a lot of times they try to tell you what you can't do, but they never want to emphasize what you can do. Bring me a guy and tell me what can he do? Because I'm going to keep him away from what he can't do.

That's my job as a coach is to not put him in a situation where he can't succeed. Okay. You said he's not good on a read option. Okay. Why would I run his own read if that's not what he's good at? I'm trying to put my players in a situation where they can succeed. That's what a coach's job is, is to put a guy in a position where he can succeed and get more out of him

than the player thought he can get out of himself. It's gonna be this, I'm glad that, you know, he's doing a great job, as good a job, but he's not a robot, Ocho. He sees this thing, I mean, he's on social media. He hears these things. He's not a robot. He has feelings He has emotions

And so no matter how much you like, oh no Eventually, yeah, you hear it. You're all the negativity that that what they're saying Um, it does it doesn't make it any easier Now Your dad can tell you like hey son, this is blah, blah, blah, but it doesn't make it easier, Ocho. I ain't trying to hear that. This supposed to be one of the...

Look, if Chidor is what we think he is and can become the player that we think he can, all that noise, that's all it is. It's just noise. It should have no impact. What somebody says about you, and your dad says, what you say about me is not what I think of myself. Yeah, absolutely. I just hope he has the mental fortitude not to let it bother him. The fact that he's already been through it for so long and he has prime as his father, I don't think

it will. Because I know a lot of people, when it comes to the media and the media jumps on you, and they talk about you, sometimes it gets to certain people. It does. But I think Shadoor is built different. Prime has been built different. So I think he has a great understanding to ignore the blocking noise out.

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founding partner of i heart women's sports Oh, I'm excited for him. Hey chat. Remember I told y'all had that right there. Oh man. Roll back. That's the original That's the og like triple og bun B That's the triple og iPod that's live that's live that's the number two version this one holds ten thousand songs this one holds a thousand song y'all remember the iPad touch iPod touch and check this out. Man, how am I?

You know, that stuff might be worth something. Don't worry about it. Like you got to. I mean, guess what? It's supposed to be worth something with this plus 5,200. Wait, come again? It's supposed to be this plus 5,200. I'm just saying, all your stuff is in good condition.

Like, in condition, you could probably get a good price for it. Look at this, OG. You know what this is, Ocho? That's the iPhone 9. No that's the original one. I thought I thought it started with number 9. It started with number one. I hear you talking about that. Y'all remember that? Oh that's crazy. Hey you know what you do? Put Saran wrap back in and pretend like it's brand new., I ain't getting rid of it It ain't never been you know how much you know how much money you can get for that Somebody probably give me like five grand for it cuz it's the original one

It ain't nothing. It ain't nothing. It ain't nothing turned on. They never had no phone. Nobody never nothing Hey, how much you said they can give you for it? I'm about five thousand number ain't never nothing. How much you said they can get you for it? Probably about five thousand. Well there go you go you go ahead and sell that when I owe you two hundred. No they ain't got no joy it's just mine. You remember the Samsung? Samsung? I ain't never had no Android. Look at it. That's the galaxy note. It ain't never got no joy. Oh galaxy note. Hey listen, I tell you one thing. You ever text me in the turn green, I'ma block you. Yeah, I'ma block you. I got a little stuff.

I got to show you all before. I got about 17, 18 phones. Damn. Yeah, because I keep them. I keep them? I keep them Spoke to Marshawn Lynch about leaving Seattle and to play for the Steelers the grass is greener on the other side Ocho Excuse me considering the Steelers doesn't have a quarterback

You're right any be so sure that the grass is green on the other side? I'm not sure but my grandma always said the grass is green on the other side depending on who's watering it. So now you got to hold on now. People gonna hold on to that clip now. People gonna go back to that clip. Now it don't matter who the quarterback is. Now there are two different type of receivers. There are receivers that need a quarterback to elevate their play and their receivers, it doesn't matter who that quarterback, their play will always remain at the highest level.

Right. So now you get to show us which one you are, brother DK. You know, I love you to death. I love you to death and I hope what you say is right. The grass being green on the other side. And a whole lot of wire receivers that can play through bad quarterbacks. De'Andre Hopkins might be the best one I've ever seen. Oh, a quarterback carousel out this world and then nothing changed, not an ounce of production.

Case Keenum, Hoyer, Brock Osweiler, obviously he had Deshaun for that great stretch and he and Deshaun was great, but it didn't matter to quarterback. D-Hop put up those numbers. Yeah. Unbelievable. And so we're gonna find out, like you said, Ocho,

we're gonna find out if DK, what he said that the grass is greener. Because, you know, look, I think the thing is, get upset you spend time there you ask for contract they won't give it to you but you had to go somewhere else and get it but you know they traded me I don't get the trade I don't I don't get trading Sam Darna because I don't believe Sam Darna is a better quarterback than Geno Smith that's just me firstly and then you like you trade trade Gino, you cut locket, you trade a DK, now you left, now you bring in,

and great, I think it's the same coach that called, please, I think Clint Kubiak is the OC. He was in his year in Minnesota, Ocho. I know Clint when he was about this big. And Dan was my quarterback, and he's also my offensive coordinator, Gary Kubiak. But the decision that they made in Seattle didn't make a whole lot of sense to me,

but guess what, Ojo? It don't need to make sense to me. It just needs to make sense to them. Yeah, yeah. Damn, man. Hey, listen, I'm hoping it will work out, and I'm thinking it is going to work out. I like the dynamic duo.

I like DK and George Pickens. You know? Hey listen, two of my favorite crash out receivers. Well you know what's going to happen if they don't get the ball. Oh they going to get it. They going to get it. From who? Arthur Smith going to make sure they get it.

From who? They going to make sure they get it. don't make sure why did he make sure? Why did he make sure George Pickens get the ball last year? Hey, um man, listen, you know, they roll it if they rolling covers to him now, it's a different ballgame now It's a different ballgame. Okay. I hope you're right. I sure hope you're right Jake Paul Just called our Anthony Joshua. I will F and beat just He doesn't have a chin he he has no skill, and he's a stiff. Come on, come on, come on man.

I'm just telling what the man said, Ocho. I didn't say it, you make it seem like I called out Anthony Joshua. I know, but listen. He said I'll beat his effing... Yeah, listen, there's certain, there's levels to everything. I love Jake Paul. I love everything Jake Paul has done, you know, in his own right, you know, in entertaining and in finding a lane and space for what he loves to do and the passion, the passion and work and discipline that he's put into the sport of boxing and combat sports in general. But we talk about the elites.

We talk about the elites at their craft. Yeah. It's not gonna happen. If I'm not mistaken, I think Jake Ford. Tyson Fury, brother. Tommy Paul, the closest person to... Tommy Fury. Actually, yeah. Tommy, you know, Tommy, if you wanna

challenge someone, challenge someone with the one loss you have. Take him out. Yeah, he's too big For you Wade way 245 what what if Jake Paul wear Oh Joe 210 215 he might wait to 20. I'm not I'm not sure but listen again I love Jake Paul. I love what he's done, you know, in his lane in the sport and combat sports and boxing in general. But you biting off more than you chew. You biting off more than you can chew, man.

I love it though. One thing you do need to anything that you do that he does have is confidence and belief in yourself. Confidence and belief in yourself. It's no different than me feeling like I could be James Harrison. You know, it's no different. But you can get money. The thing with Jake Paul, he brings money.

I mean, you said I was 60,000, showed up, I was 60,000, watched Netflix. Well, I mean, I don't know whether it was 60, at jay world or how many or what 300 000 watched uh, Netflix all I know is that He brings eyeballs and people show up to watch him fight Maybe they show up to watch him lose but at the end of the day they're paying money to get into the arena They saw it. Listen, he's created himself and made himself the villain He's made himself the villain.

And the fact that everybody's tuning in to see him lose, he's in a great space and he's in the great lane. So what he's doing, he's doing it the right way. He's doing it the right way. Yeah. Oh Joe, a debate went viral on Twitter asking, should parents make their kids pay bills if they work a job? And the response went viral saying,

I'm just gonna say it. This is a big problem in the response went viral saying, I'm just going to say it, this is a big problem in the black community and we have to stop it. A lot of parents need help with their bills so they take the money from their kids and disguise it as teaching them responsibility. And it's actually pretty F-ing ridiculous. Ocho, what do you think? You got to teach your kids responsibility at some point. You have to. I think if they're staying with you after the age of 18, now if they're saving up, I wouldn't make my kids, if they need to stay with me after the age of 18, are you saving up to get yourself a place? You have to have some sense of responsibility. I'm not always going to be around. So you're going

to have to be able to fend for yourself. I can teach you how to fish. I can teach you how to fish so you know how to do it when I'm not around. Now, if I do everything for you and still coddle you and have you up on the roof and you not having any type of responsibilities and you go out there in the real world,

you're gonna be lost. We can't have that. We can't have that. We can't have that. We got to have some type of structure and discipline and method on how things are to go as a grown adult. You have to. But being under my roof and making sure allow you to save your money and get yourself together

until you're ready to go on, on your own and be an adult, start a family, whatever it may be. I'm all for that. I'm all for that. I'm all for that. Yeah. I mean, I'll tell you, I helped my grandmother with bills, but she didn't ask me to, I just felt it was the right thing to do.

Cause I saw my grandmother struggling, I'm making money. And so what, I'm going to continue to watch her struggle. Now she's struggling trying to put food on the table for us. She's struggling trying to put food, get clues on our back. So here I am, I got a job and it, and I'm not making a whole lot of money, but $10 a lot was a lot of money back in the 70s. $20 was a lot of money back in the 70s.

Oh yeah, absolutely. So you know, I'm working two jobs. Hey, I mean, the first time I got a job, I was five years old, I was walking behind the tobacco picker in the back of field. Uh-huh. 1973, 1974. And from that time, I started walking, from walking behind the back of picker in the backer field. 1973, 1974. And from that time I started

walking behind the backer picker to carrying a row to doing that. So I'm working 10, 12 hours a day doing that. Come home, shower, me and my cousin, we play basketball and then go catch chickens for another three, four hours. So you make... The chicken was a dollar a dollar a chicken, right? So we catching eight to twelve thousand a night That's twelve dollars now. You only count chicken between Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday because Friday was the last day. There is nothing going on on Saturday So you started so you have so they were gonna be there

I'm not actually Thursday was the last day Thursday was the last day you didn't catch on Friday because they were off on Saturday and Sunday. You called Sunday. They were there for the crew. The plant was operational Monday through Monday through Friday. So you called Sunday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Then they, uh, and so, you know, Hey, I'm bringing home $5 a day plus half a day on Saturday, 27.50, plus we catch eight to 12,000 four nights a week. So I'm making maybe $60, but I'm working a ass load of hours.

Yeah. Okay. Hey, listen, back then, you know how far you can stretch $60 back in? Yeah. 60. So even if I didn't help Rojo, guess what? I bought my60 back here. Yeah. 60. So even if I didn't help her out yo, guess what? I bought my own school clothes. Yeah.

There ain't a whole lot of eight, nine, 10 year olds, 11 year olds buying their own school clothes. Well, who else was gonna get them? What the hell I was working for? Yeah. I'm working, gonna hold my money. I'm gonna hold my money in my pocket. I'm watching my grandma struggle.

Man, please. I got a question. Yes. What kind of clothes you wore back then like geordash? Uh, no, no, you know, uh So, you know sears and robes what sears and robes up You know But hey, okay, then I as I got older lee jeans were in Oh, yeah, you had Sergio rigetto. You did have. 501. Yeah. 501. Yeah. You had Levi's

and stuff like. You had Polo. You had Dark Fires. Hold on. Did you ever have a pair of rules? Please tell me you had rules with a zip on the side. You know rules are right kangaroos. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Walter Payton had kangaroos. Yeah. We had none of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, had the white, I had the highs and the lows, and I had a blue pair. But you know. Hey, you know what's funny? They go with everything. Yeah! It don't matter what you put on,

you wear the black pair, you don't want the white pair, they go with everything. Yes, yes. And so, like I said, for me, and I get it, I mean, I can see her point, trying to teach responsibility, but I was teaching myself responsibility. Because my whole purpose like man I see my grandma struggling. She working that job making a hundred and ninety seven dollars every two weeks and she you know

Working in a nursing home the very nursing home that she ended up living her final day the last two years of her life No, man, I couldn't in good conscience I'm not in good conscience have money in my pocket and then have my grandma worried about well Oh, well, I don't know how I'm gonna pay this bill. This I don't know, you know, the phone, I don't know about the gas. I don't know about the lights, man, please. So me, I took it upon myself and that is still my responsibility to this day is to make sure my family is taken care of.

Right. But you know, Hey, I've done my kids and their moms have done a great job helping them understand That's your daddy money Now if he chooses to give you some that's on him But y'all know I owe you an education and I gave you the best education because all of you for the most part you didn't Stay but you started out in private school and you had college paid for you got a car you left college with no But with no debt no No student loans. No car loans

Yeah Now say anything I do after that that's out of the kindness of my heart, but I don't know you know Now hopefully you learned a lot from your mom and from your dad to be so self-sufficient now I'm not gonna let you drown Or at least you know, you know, you might think you're drowning. I might let you take on some water. Yeah, matter of fact, you know, my baby, remember I told you, my daughter,

my daughter had pre-VNM, you know, she graduated. She graduated May 16th, wait, May 16th to May 17th. Remember what I told you she wanted for graduation? That G-Wagon. So we had a conversation when I was with all the kids. I told her, I said, listen, she done made the Dean's list, the honor roll, she done made everything. I'm like, well, listen, now what you want?

Now you say you wanted a Mercedes, what is it? So I'm thinking she's gonna say G-Wagon. And she said, no daddy, you know, I don't really want no G-Wagon. I said, well, what happened? What made you change your mind? He said, I think it's too much, no daddy, you know I don't really want no G-Wagon. I say, what happened? What made you change your mind? He say, I think it's too much, the maintenance. I just think I just want a starter.

Just give me a C300. I say, now we talking. Now we talking. You want a white one? I could tell them to make your interior pink, you know, with the AK, stitched in the seat and all that. Oh Joe, what happened when she got to get rid of it?

You better hope she sent it to another AK. Oh, man. What the hell you talking about? What the hell? Man, I'm doing, man, you know, when we come to Ocho back then, guy used to get the headliner, get Gucci, get MCM. I said, well, you better- Oh, you remember that?

Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Oh, yeah. I said, well, you better hope, hey, get their initials, uh, uh, uh, uh, yeah, yeah. I said, well, you better hope, hey, get, get the admissions. Black. I said, you better hope you find another dude named black. They want to buy it. Cause I promise you, you go back, get the great cross the colds, trying to sell it. Syracuse football head coach, Fran Brown has a policy that his players must save 40% of their NIL checks. There's no way as a coach

that I'm going to pay you a lot of money and then you're going to walk away from here with no money, says during the upbringing in Camden, New Jersey, it could have been a difference in paying rent, keeping the lights on, buying food for his siblings. What'd you think? You like that, Ocho? Yeah, I like that. I like that because at some point, especially when you're that young, you know, kids, kids these days don't understand financial literacy. They get the money, they spend the money, they have this, they have this mindset that, that worth and value is based on aesthetics

and the accessories that you purchase. That makes you feel like you were greater than and make you worth or it makes you feel special. I want kids to understand that to people in the chat, there are a lot of players and athletes today, regardless of sport that they play, they feel that they have to live way above their means based on the type of money they're making. People in the chat, players that see this, there is nothing, I guarantee you and I promise you, there is nothing you can buy that holds more weight

or value than your name alone. No. Nothing. Nothing than the name that's on that birth certificate. Cause when you take off all that designer, all the jewelry, all the watches, that in itself is the value.

Yeah. It is. And then what you gonna do? Your car, your Lamborghini's and your Rolls Royce and your iced out watch and your chains and all. Man that shit don't mean nothing man. Nothing. The true value, can you get the same reaction without the car?

Yeah. Without the clothes? Without the jewelry? Can you still pull the same chicks? That's your value. That's your real worth. Can you still do the same things you do with all the accessories, aesthetics on when you don't have it on? Yeah. Yeah, come on man. Stop playing man. Oh Joe, see the thing with me, people like, I don't like money, I like freedom. Freedom is what you get when you have money.

They're all two different things. Some people just want money, I want freedom. Hey, financial freedom is a beautiful thing. It absolutely is. A lot of people, we look at, listen, we look is a beautiful thing, huh? It absolutely is. A lot of people, we look at, listen, we look at all the numbers, we look at these huge, gargantuan contracts, you know? Yeah.

Still to this day, the money keeps going up, right? Right. And one thing that has changed, when you look up, statistically, the same amount of players are still going broke, two years removed from the game, even though the money continues to rise. So all that's telling me the fact that nothing is changing from a financial standpoint, because there's no structure and discipline when it comes to spinning. Because our mindset is, well, if you give me more, I won't go broke.

You just spend more. If he ain't got no financial discipline, it don't matter how much I give you, because you just going to keep on spending. Exactly. The more you make, the more you'll spend. Because you're like, oh man, I got this, I got this now, I can do this. Hey, it goes so fast, man. It goes so fast.

Before you look up, you got an entourage, you got an entourage, you the golden goose. You got to feed everybody else. You go shopping, now you got to buy everybody else something. You go to the club, you spending 40, 50 thousand in the section buying bottles, you got a bunch of chicks, you know, trying to impress them, for what? For what? They done Googled how much you making,

you ain't got to do nothing. Your name alone gonna get you the woman you want anyway. They gonna deal with you based off her name alone. You don't, man, what are we doing? Hey. Man, stop playing. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. ["I Heart Women's Sports"] Last segment of the evening, Q and A. Man, you just got me hot, man, with that little combo, man. God, Lee, man. Cupcake Mama, it was nice to see you today in Charleston. Don't drink, but I wanted to support you, as well as give my soon-to-be ex-husband a nice parting gift. Cupcake Mama, thank you. That was very, very nice of you to show up and support.

Olive Charleston showed up and she also said Shannon, you and Ocho should do a cognac cigar tour. Call it Cognac Swirl and Smoke Skirls. Cognac Swirls, Smoke Skirls. If you guys could find the time, being both, being that both of you are extremely busy. We are, but I wanna thank everybody in Charleston and Mount Pleasant. There was North Charleston and Mount Pleasant. Guys that showed up, and we ran out at one place, Ocho, and a lot of the people like, hey,

and I took pictures with them and I said, I apologize, even though it was not my fault. Um, right. They ended up going to the place in North Charleston and we greatly, greatly with Charleston is West Charleston, right? West. And, uh, I really appreciate that. So guys, thank you again. And Charleston, Mount Pleasant, all you guys that came up, came out and showed out this tour has been unbelievable. Um, Atlanta, you were unbelievable. Atlanta, you were great. Savannah, you were exceptional.

Baltimore, you hit it out the park. Charleston, knocked it out of the park. Connecticut, Hartford, Chicago, Miami, Man, Houston, thank you, thank you, thank you. Trey Brisbane, what's up, Unconocho, big fans of the pod. Thank you forrey Briss band, what's up? I can note your big fans of the pod Thank you for coming out in Charleston today make it in the memory of a lifetime for me and my brother Can't wait to see y'all in Charlotte in July. Thank you. Appreciate it Thank you for supporting. Thank you guys for coming out

Bam go hey Shannon, I'm so excited to see you in Pula, Georgia Thank you so much for the cherished memory and the tasteful liquor. Tasteful liquor, C Young. Bro, thank you so much, man. I thank you guys. I can't thank you enough for coming out and showing that level of support that you gave me today.

Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. I hope you had fun in South Carolina today. Ocho, I've been seeing your videos, horseback riding, tennis, etc. You trying to join Yellowstone and the US Open at the same time? Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm trying to do everything. I'm trying to diversify my portfolio and do as many things as possible. Me myself and I said ESPN kept Caitlin Clark out of the top five women college ranks because

of no championships. A championship is a team, not an individual. Correct. Why is this still happening to her? What the F did she do wrong? That's just the way it is. I mean, if you go back and look at it, what player didn't win a championship that's in the top five in basketball?

Now in baseball, I mean, you got Barry Bonds, but Barry won seven MVPs. And look, I don't know, I didn't see the list. So without me saying, I'm saying Stewie should be number one. Three most outstanding players, no, four out of most outstanding players, three college players of the year, four national championships, she should be number one.

Now you can put whoever you want after that. So if you want Cheryl Miller, you want Candace Parker, you want Ma Moore, you want DT, I ain't got no problem with that. Hey, if you wanna throw, I don't know if y'all remember Cheryl Swoops when she was at Texas Tech, she won the national championship,

dropped 48 in the championship game, and they beat Ohio State by Katie Smith. I remember that game. She was sensational. But like I said, without seeing the list, I'm thinking, Ocho, like, you know, Candice, Maya Moore, DT, Stewie, Shamika's whole claw.

I don't know. I'm trying to think who else could possibly be in there. Um... I don't know. I'm trying to think who else could could possibly be in there Cooper Cynthia Cooper, okay, I think she was on one of those national championship teams with uh Okay, Brianna was number one Candace Park was number two. Dana Tarasso was number three. Maya Moore was number four. Sharon Miller was number five. Ocho, without even knowing it, did I not give you the names? Yeah. I didn't see. I'm old enough to remember them all, Ocho. I'm old enough to remember them all. So I saw Sharon Miller play. I saw her win back-to-back national championships, and then I saw them lose to an undefeated Texas team. They beat the later team, La Tech. Kim Monke was on those teams. But Breonna Stewart, that's a no brainer. Breonna Stewart is a no brainer. It's like Kareem. If you're talking

about the greatest college basketball player for me, it's Kareem. Kareem he lost two games three most outstanding players three national championships because remember Hocho the Freshman's couldn't play back then but Kareem Freshman team beat the varsity team that had just won the national championship. Championship yeah. So the UCLA team that won the national championship team, Kareem's freshman team beat them in a game. So for basketball, it's a no brainer. It's Kareem. Now we can go wherever you want to go after that.

You want to go Jerry Lucas, you want to go Oscar Robinson, you want to go Christian Leighton, you want to go Ralph Sampson. Ralph Sampson was a three time player of the year. Didn't win a national championship. He only got to the final four. So whoever you want to put after Kareem, I mean, I probably ain't going to even fight you, but K he only got to the final four. So whoever you want to put out the cream. I mean, I probably ain't going to even fight you, but Kareem going to be number one, just like Brianna Stewart should be number one. Yeah.

I mean, uh, what'd you call them? Yukon took all the spots and they got three of the five spots. They got Stuart, they got DT, they got mile more. So, but yeah, I can see that. Candace Parker, two time national champion. She's player of the year, most outstanding player. I ain't got no problem with the list. I ain't got no problem with the list.

I don't, I'm joking. Hey, J213, hey, I can only show, do you believe Michael Jackson would be more or less famous if he was performing during the normalization of social media? Look, I don't know what he'd be. I just know I've never seen anybody that enlisted the response. When people start having concerts and people pass out before he performs, that's when I'm going to say they're bigger than Michael. Nobody is bigger than Mike.

No. You're never gonna see that again. It's not even close. Mm-mm. Not even close. Like I said, you gotta- They're not even close. Like I said, I'm old enough to remember

when he came out with Off the Wall, and I think, what, 78? And then, you know, when he came out with Off the Wall and I think what 78 and Then you know when he came out with Thriller it was it was game over But what what happened to Mike is what? Ocho he couldn't get over the fact he kept trying to replicate Thriller, and he didn't realize Thriller was Haley's comic And he couldn't he just I mean he had albums doing 10 million I mean think about it bad was a damn good album off the wall was a great album. I think in Remember the time album was on what was the name of that album invincible was it invincible? But anyway he I

mean Yeah, and mean, yeah. And I, Ochoa, I remember we just had a conversation. I said, Cat Williams was my thriller. I'm not gonna drive myself crazy trying to go. Trying to replicate and do it again. You're not gonna do it. And we've had great interviews before,

we've had great interviews after, and I know a lot of people don't like the guest selection But hey, I believe in being diverse. I'm not gonna try to hide, you know, hey, I like Amber I love oh man young man young Miami playing that game. We had a great time but Dangerous dangerous. That was the name of it. Yes dangerous. Okay unbelievable unbelievable album But he didn't like, you know, 10 million.

Do you know an artist would give their left arm, right arm or leg to sell 10 million copies of an album? Listen, and we ain't talking about no streams. We talk about hard copies, people going in the store and purchasing. They used people going in the store and get the actual hard copy of the album or the CD or the cassette that's different yeah different not no streams where you can you can manipulate everything and get bought man please not comparable, Danny Little John said, Uncle Nocho, who's better, Shaq or Dwight in Orlando? Unc, that's a question for you.

Ooh, that's close. Both went to one finals. Both got swept. I think I might have to go with Dwight, three time defensive player of the year. And I don't think Dwight had a comparable player to Penny. See what I'm saying, Ocho? If you look at it, but Shaq, you got to realize Shaq didn't stay that long. Shaq was on the depth. Shaq was there 92, 93, 94, 95.

He was only there four years. People don't realize that. People look at Shaq, think Shaq stayed up. No, Shaq was there four years. 92, 93, 94, 95. 96, he was with the- Lake show? Yes. He got, he went to the lake as a free agent.

Breaking news, Steph Curry just went to the locker room grabbing his tailbone after a hard fall. He's out the rest of the game. You remember was that a couple years ago he had that bruised tailbone injury that caused him to miss some games? I think he missed a couple of weeks. Because you know, they scared of it. They ain't got no overall... He ain't got no cushion. John Arena, what's up, Ugganocho? I listen to y'all every morning at work, y'all dropping wisdom and knowledge. I try to apply it to my life.

Thank you. Thank you for listening. Thank you for your support. Well, sir, salute. Mike Brown, I saw old Clemson Prime looking like Mr. Clean now. He got good hair, like, he blew up for the plug. A lot of us brothers need help. Again, Steph Curry just went to the locker room after having a tough spill.

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